1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: day after day. It's like banking with P and C Bank. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: It might seem boring to save, plan and make calculated 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: decisions with your bank, but keeping your money boring is 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: what helps you live or more happily fulfilled life. P 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: and C Bank Brilliantly Boring since eighteen sixty five. Brilliantly 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Boring since eighteen sixty five is a service mark of 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the PNC Financial Service Group, Inc. P and C Bank 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: National Association Member FDIC. 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Elon Musk. He would asked recently, you know, 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: like with stocks he's into and he was like, you know, 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: he doesn't really invest in stocks too much. I mean, 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: it would make sense. I love the richest person in 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: the world. He was like, you know, he's just focused. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm building his companies. Then when his companies become public, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: then he owns a lot of stocks in that company, 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: which is Tesla, which will soon be SpaceX, which will 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: soon be you know, a variety of different companies that 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 2: he has involvement with, but he said if he did, 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: if he did, you know, if he were looking at 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: the landscape and he were to pick two stocks, he 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: said it would be Google. He said, Google's done a 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: tremendous job as far as where they're going to be 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: in the in the AI race, and then he said, 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: in videos is inevitable, Like you can't get around in video. 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: That's just like a no brainer. Yep. 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: So he spoke about Google, and he spoke about in 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: video as far as like if he was to actually 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: be in the in the stock world, those would be 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: the two companies that he would he would have confidence 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: in investing in. What are your thoughts on that. 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: It's the other side of wealth building that people don't 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: talk about publicly. But I love that we have the 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: show so we can. If you can build something that 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: goes up one hundred and fifty thousand percent of return 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: or seven hundred thousand percent, it's better to put all 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: of your tangible time into build an asset. There are 41 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: certain people who are asset drivers and GDP drivers, regardless 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 4: of political dispersion. He is one of them. So if 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 4: I can build a SpaceX. Starlink I think is the 44 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: darling of the portfolio, probably best company there Teslo. We 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: already know story tradition at PayPal Mafia. If I can 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: build things that go up fifteen thousand x, it's much 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: better to build a thing and then get the value. 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: If you can't do that, then you have to invest 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: in Because I always say, if you're entrepreneur, are you 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 4: better than Tim Cook? 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: Elon Musk? 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 4: Now we gotta throw Sam Altman, even though he's having 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: some issues, right, are you better than the top ten CEOs? 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: He's better than a lot of the top ten. 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: Therefore he should focus on wealth building by building a company. 56 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: And even if you're not, you have to build a 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: business in combination. I've been telling this the podcasters. Fred 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: We're talking about a Wednesday. A lot of streamers and 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: podcasters are going. 60 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: Out of business. A lot of rappers too. 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: They wouldn't have though. I've told two hundred people the 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: strategy for executed. You have to invest in the media 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: companies that you're uploading and using your services through. 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: Most don't do it. 65 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 4: And as a tell of two media broadcasters, one that 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 4: does and one that doesn't, there's not as much there's 67 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: too much saturation in some of these markets, so people 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: are going out of business. But you have to build 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: a business and then invest. It's the only blueprint. It's 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: the only blueprint. And I love the honesty of the answer, 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: because one of the things that most wealth builders don't tell. 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: You is how they build that rocket ship. 73 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 4: No pun intended to generate wealth for themselves regardless of 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: what the market is doing. 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always tell people, listen, you gotta study the movements, 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: all the money, even movements fill the money. Last week 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: when I talked about Jensen and him sitting down and 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: having this conversation. 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: To its right was Elon Musk. 80 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: No surprise when Elon asked, you ask him what two 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: companies are going to be prominent, It's going to be 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: those two. We obviously know what nvideo is going to 83 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: mean to the economy. Well, we already know what it means. 84 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: We can see where it's headed. We can see that 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Google has made an imprint here. But when you listen 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: to Sundar Speed, the CEO of Google said something very 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: interesting last week, and he was talking about power right 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: XAI uses what uses the GPUs they're thinking about maybe 89 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: their partner to u TPUs from Google. But that wasn't 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the thing that really caught my attention. It was they 91 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: weren't talking about data centers here on Earth. They're talking 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: about putting data centers in space or sundar. So now, 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: when I'm listening to Google and I'm thinking to myself, 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: they're putting they're going to do data centers in space 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: because they can use the solar power, I'm like, oh man, 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: this is different. When I'm thinking like, well, how would 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: they get space exploration? That's not really a division that 98 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: they've really focusing on. And then I'm starting to hear partnership. Right, 99 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: you start putting these te leaves together, right, who has 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: master space exploration? Who has that division? Who has a company? Well, 101 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: isn't that what space is doing? When we talk about 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: the satellites that are already orbiting the Earth, we covered 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: that in very greatest stent, and I'm like, oh, this 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: is this is where they're going. 105 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: So start watching those tea leaves start. 106 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: When these CEOs start talking about each other and they're 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: starting to praise each other, it's for a great reason. 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Partnerships are happening, whether we know about them or not. 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: They're already looking toward the future. When I'm looking at 110 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: we're just trying to figure outw they're going to power 111 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: the data sets here on Earth. Right, Like we've talked 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: about Meta in Louisiana, We've talked about all these these 113 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: data centers in the Midwest. We've talked about the fabs 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: that TSM is put in Arizona now and like, hey, 115 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: we we we got this covered. Where's the next space 116 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and that's going to be that's going to be orbiting 117 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: the planet. So interesting that he says those two companies. 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: And then somebody said, well, which because Ian said what 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: content created? To invest in the companies that they upload 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: content to? And then somebody in chat said which, which 121 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: would be a question mark? So Google, Google, because Google 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: owns YouTube, Meta because Meta owns Instagram and Facebook. 123 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: And Apple created the iPod. It literally created podcasting from 124 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: the term iPod. Yeah, sometimes it's just hidden plain sight. 125 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: The investing those three, I mean, it's solid mm hmm. 126 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: This this has been always been the Google case is 127 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: like we have to have Google in the portfolio since 128 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: it was we have I remember we had these comments 129 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: sticks these in depth conversations, and the money have got 130 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: to be you got YouTube. Yes, it leads it, but 131 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: you know they still have the cloud business and now 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you can see what they've done it with inside the 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: AI bit and they're not done. 134 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: They're not done, They're just getting started. 135 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: There are the partnerships are going to start increase, which 136 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: is why we said, like, hey, TPU Gpu I, it 137 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: don't matter. 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: They're going to Google five, Google A five, I. 139 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: Owe you, it don't matter, It don't matter. Right, it's 140 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: going to need power and the other thing that is 141 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: going to need the storage. So that's why we always 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: talk about memory memory, memory, because it still needs to 143 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: bring to the operations which is going to store all 144 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: that data. 145 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: And it also speaks to the importance of investing in ets. 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: So I mean Google has an individual stock, but invest 147 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: with Investo QQQ. 148 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: We talked about that. 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: Put a tweet out last week where it's ten thousand 150 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: dollars in the video. If you would to invested ten 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in video ten years ago right now, will 152 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: be worth ten million dollars ten point three million dollars. 153 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: So the first thing that people will say was like, well, 154 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: who knew in video ten years ago was going to 155 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: be what it is now? But Okay, what that is. 156 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: With that said, if you would have put ten thousand 157 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: dollars in QQQ ten years ago, be forty three thousand. 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: That's a good. 159 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Now, if you put ten thousand dollars in xl Y 160 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: ten years ago, be thirty one thousand. If you put 161 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars in SBY, it'll be twenty eight thousand. 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: So even with quote unquote safe investments over the last 163 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: ten years, you would have quadruple tripled or at the 164 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: very least doubled your money by investing in So yeah, 165 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: I mean the individual. But if you don't think that 166 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: technology is going to continue to move the economy forward, 167 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: you out of your mind. 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Economy forward, dude, where have you been? 169 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: And ninety four percent of those are flat or slightly 170 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: underwater if you look at inflation. Another thing you have 171 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: to look at is net margin. Google, Microsoft, Apple, Matter 172 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 4: all have amazing margins. So and I saw the comment 173 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: earlier with a brother said you have to be a 174 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 4: nerd to want to tune in. No, they trick us 175 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: to thinking that you need to be a nerd to know. 176 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: How money moves. When we move the market for a 177 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: bunch of companies, you. 178 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Don't have to be a nerd just you just have 179 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: to want to hit elevated conversations quarter zips. 180 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: Match, Well, weren't you. I too used to. 181 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Debate rap for endless hours on it. 182 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. 183 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: But at some point in time I realized that I 184 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: needed to make money to support myself and my family because. 185 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: Kai's are all in putting their money right, even the 186 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: music conversations, all those benefits Spotify, Apple and the social 187 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: media platforms matter. Those are tech businesses, but they're not 188 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: valuated like tech businesses, so they can rob the artists 189 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: and inflate the value of the tech companies. 190 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like they are though, I mean there are, 191 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: they're just that valua as such, right right, because all 192 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: of them have the tech component, which is when we 193 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: talk about valuation. And we got this conversation in private, 194 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: but like that valuate, I'm like, well, what are the ingredients? 195 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: Like, what are the things get the highest multiple? 196 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: And everybody that we talked is like, you, what's the 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: tech component that you have in the business, right, do 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: you have an app? Do you have what's the user base? 199 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: What's the retention? Like all those numbers coming to that 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: or so much, And we don't think. We just think like, hey, 201 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna use the app, We're gonna listen to music. Now, 202 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: watch time. 203 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: Do you think Future doesn't have a longer watch time 204 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: than a fifteenth best AI company? I'll debate that, but 205 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: they value it as a certain thing. Same thing with 206 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: the classifistication of stocks. Everyone doesn't get tech classification. Some 207 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: going to communications, some going consumer discretionary because it lowers 208 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: what the evaluation could be. 209 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you said. 210 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: When we think Google, we're thinking, oh, that's a tech stop, right, 211 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: But if you look at Spider's Fun, it's not inside 212 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: of XLK. 213 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: Yep, Amazon's not inside of XLK. 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