1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Steve Huffman, of course, 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: his co founder and CEO of Reddit. He joins us 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: here live at the Bloomberg Tech Conference earlier this week. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I was covering your earnings and the first earnings that 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: you guys had as a publicly traded company. 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: You guys just knocked out. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: Of the park. We had a nice quarter. We're happy 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: with it. 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 4: Revenue forty eight percent, users thirty seven percent. I think 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: it's a great way to start, and I think we're 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 4: pretty happy. 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: What was it that worked well for you for the quarter? 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: Well, look the way I've been describing the folks as 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 4: our work is working. And so this has been really 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: a multi year effort of making and Reddit like it's 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: easy to say, it's easier to use, faster, easier to 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 4: sign up, easier to find your home, and it's paying off. 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: We should know when you stay multi year, you don't 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: just mean like a couple of years. I mean, Reddit 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: is like a company that is almost as old as 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: as Facebook focus. 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Point, and it was a much longer path year in 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: ibo So. 24 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: We started the company in two thousand and five, I mean, 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: and we've had a journey. 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: We sold the company and spun out. I left, I 27 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: came back. 28 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: I'd say, really the kind of modern era of Reddit 29 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 4: started at twenty fifteen, that's when I came back, But 30 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: it was really a couple of years ago where I 31 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: told the company. I was like, we need to but 32 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 4: being so academic about our work and just make credit better, 33 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: just focus on quality. 34 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 5: Well, so how talk to a little bit about how 35 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 5: you do and continue to make it better. There was 36 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 5: a quote I think on the earnings about you say, 37 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: building the next generation of Reddit. So how do you 38 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 5: think about that? Steam in a world where we are 39 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 5: talking a lot about AI. 40 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 6: We know of the data that you guys have. 41 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 5: On your platforms, it's smart data, it's targeted data. 42 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 6: What is the next generation of Reddit? What does that 43 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 6: really mean? So? 44 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: Reddit is people, right, people create community that have incredible conversations. 45 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: So really what we're doing is revealing that now as 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: it happens. People are users, but any people really they 47 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: have I think a deep down need or community and 48 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: a sense of belonging, and that's what we provide now. 49 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: At the same time as conversations. 50 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: They're having are totally unique on the Internet where increasingly 51 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: more and more content online is written by AI, is 52 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: written by machines. There's a premium now on content that's 53 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: made by humans or it comes from humans, and I 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: think people have a craving increasingly through that realness as well. 55 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: I'm wondering about the content policy that you guys rolled 56 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: out today, because the whole idea here is to create 57 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: a place for Reddit content to actually help train AI models. 58 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: So you have a deal right now out there with 59 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: Alphabet's Google to help it train its AI models. What 60 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: works about Reddit's content and how do you balance that 61 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: with making sure that the people who contribute there feel 62 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: like they're not contributing to developing an AI algorithm. 63 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: So Reddit has been open for a long time, and 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: we love that about Reddit, and we've been very well 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: indexed in search and Google Search for example, and I 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: think of AI the AIS that we see as like 67 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 4: search two point zero, and so it's important for us 68 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: or we like Reddit being out there and our content 69 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: being out there. It helps users find their home on Reddit, 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: it helps people get answers to questions. I think this 71 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: is very powerful. But what we announced this morning is 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: that we can't just be completely permissive. We have to 73 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: be very picky about who we work with, and we're 74 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: gonna work with partners like Google who will do so 75 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: on our terms, right, not reverse engineer the identity of 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: our users, not try to use public content and Reddit 77 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: to target ads or things like that, but really use 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: it for what it's attended for. It's just advancing the 79 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: state of the art and helping people find their home 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: on Reddit. 81 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 6: It does feel like we're. 82 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Going into a new generation, maybe a more informed generation, 83 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: if you will, when it comes to this social media world. 84 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: Is that fair after seeing some of the stumbles of 85 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: kind of the first round, if you will. 86 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: So, the way I think about this ecosystemic and I'm. 87 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: Not just saying Reddit, I'm just talking about broadly social media. 88 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: Well, so Reddit, remember we started in two thousand and five, 89 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: so we actually pre date the word social media and 90 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: the idea of influence. 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: There was a time when that happened. 92 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I feel like we're kind of going 93 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: through this this evolution where Reddit's becoming more mainstream and 94 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: increasingly people who maybe have grown up with social media 95 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: are seeing that hey, there's another way, and this might 96 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: be a better way or a better fit for them. Right, 97 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: Because Reddit is free of a lot of the I 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: think incentives or misincentives that calls people to behave unnaturally. 99 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 4: Like on Reddit, people just help each other and you 100 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: don't get credit for it in real life. 101 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: So the only reason you do it is. 102 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: Because you enjoy doing it, and I think that's really special. 103 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm actually so late to the party. 104 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I've talked about this, talked about I can't tell you 105 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: what time he talks about it. I'm not a young person, 106 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: and like, I basically feel like I just discovered Reddit 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: and it's probably the platform that I spend the most 108 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: time on. It has communities for you know, I'm a cyclist. 109 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I live in a certain part of New York. Like 110 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: I can follow all of these communities and it's like 111 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: it's super helpful too, with like home improvement stuff. 112 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: I'm finding it. 113 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: How do you get more people like me to find it? 114 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: Sort of later in there. 115 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: Hey, you're doing your part. But I feel like like. 116 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: My brothers are like, yeah, this has been around. 117 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 118 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: So this is the funny thing about our demographics that 119 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: we're actually what we're seeing as people age out or 120 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: social media and they age into reading, and so it's 121 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: kind of pick people up. You know, we call them 122 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: a merging adults EVE in their early twenties, late teenage. 123 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: The peak of the bell curve is maybe twenty five, 124 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: but I've inc recently seen sixty and seventy year olds 125 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 4: on reading. The way I describe it is whatever you're 126 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: into or going through just in life, it's on Reddit somewhere. 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: It's just people, and so yeah, I think the platform 128 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: is a little older. 129 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Well, something that you've brought up a lot lately is 130 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: the idea of when you're googling something, you actually find 131 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: Reddit answers in Google. How big of a traffic driver. 132 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 2: Is that to you? 133 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 4: It's a big one, Like how big it's it's coming gone, 134 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: it's coming gone. Over the years, but we've been seeing 135 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: more traffic from Google because we made the website much faster, 136 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: and Google like speed, so faster website rank higher. And 137 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: then again, I think there's been this secular shift towards 138 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: people want to hear from other real people, and that's 139 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: what we provide. I think Google's pretty good just as 140 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: a search engine of figuring out what are people actually 141 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: looking for? 142 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: It happens to be Reddit right now. 143 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 6: What's it like to come back to the company, you know. 144 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: So it was nine years ago when I came back 145 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: to Reddit. It was going through difficult time. But look, 146 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: I love Reddit so much. I think Reddit is so 147 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: important and the opportunity is so big that I mean, honestly, 148 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: it's my dream job. I feel so thankful to have 149 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: this job, and to really to have had it twice, 150 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: you know, once the first time, and having come back. 151 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: It's sometimes I just kind of pinched myself. I feels 152 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: so incredibly fortunate. 153 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 6: And being a publicly held company. 154 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: I mean, it's I think ipoing is it's a big milestone. 155 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: But I've likened it to getting married. 156 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: A lot of planning, a big special moment, you know. 157 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: But we went out. We went out on a Thursday 158 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: and on Monday, It's like, okay, work. 159 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Where do you see yourself fitting in in this? 160 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: In the social media ecosystem? 161 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 6: Is it? 162 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: You have TikTok, you have meta platforms or Jones, Instagram, 163 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you have YouTube. 164 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: They just dominate. Where do you fit at? 165 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: We've been doing our own thing for such a long time. 166 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: If you were to look at our traffic, you would 167 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: not see the rise or fall of any other social 168 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: media platform. So we've we've kind of grown up in 169 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: our own image. 170 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: We we like the way we do. 171 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: Things, and what we're seeing is that people increasingly just 172 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: appreciate the Reddit way versus maybe what you find somewhere else. 173 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: The biggest challenge for your guys going forward, what do 174 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 5: you see that as? 175 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: So I think similar to that last question, uh, staying 176 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: true to our values from the way we do things. 177 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 4: And so I as and remind the company we're here 178 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: for our reason. We get to survive because we've done 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 4: things to Reddit way, and it means sometimes we've maybe 180 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: not grown as fast as we could have because we said, hey, 181 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: that doesn't fit the. 182 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: Way we do things. 183 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: And so I think we have to take pressure to 184 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: grow and pressure to do things this or that, Yeah, 185 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: and just filter them through, well, how does it fit 186 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: with Reddit? 187 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: And how do we make sure we stay true to ourselves. 188 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we should be tough as a publicly held company, as. 189 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: You know, it can be tough, but I think we're 190 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: ready for it. 191 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 6: Listen, Steve, you are ending our show and our coverage 192 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 6: here and just on a high point. So thank you 193 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: so much and good luck with everything. 194 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, you really appreciate it and Steve. 195 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 6: Helped me, the co founder of Course and CEO of 196 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 6: Read It. That's a wrap, guys 197 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 5: A Bloomberg Business Week finishing up here at the Bloomberg 198 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: Technology Summit