1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: By the end of the year, I was really excited. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: You know. Every week that went by, I just gained 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more confidence that my body was gonna 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: hold up, and then I could still play. I'm not 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: a fighter, you know what I mean, Like literally, I 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: like what I like to to literally, you know, put 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: the dukes up and go after it. I'm not I'm 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: not a fist fighter. He's a little guy, but you 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: know what, I feel like you'd have to hit him 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: with a bat and he still keep coming. I mean, 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: I think he would just get more angry. Welcome into 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: the lounge. Cliff Brown is again filling in from I 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Make this week. But this week's episode is a little different. 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of we do the open here where it's 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: you and I. All right, so I get to insulting 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: for once again not being here for the podcast. Came 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: as an opportunity, Yeah, I came as an opportunity. However, 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: when we get into the interview with Marshall yonda, it's 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: gonna be you and Make talking with Marshall. This interview, Uh, 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: this is the beauty of editing. Here We're gonna give 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: you guys a little peek behind the curtain. This interview 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: with Marshall was done actually right before the draft when 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: he was here to sign his contract after citing his extension, 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: and so that's when you guys had a chance to 25 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: talk with him. But we're running it after the draft 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: obviously because there was just so much happening with the 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: draft when we wanted that to really be the focus. 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Yonda is a good get on the podcast. He just 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: says a little behind the scenes here for you, Cliff. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: We've been begging Marshall to do the podcast for like 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: since we started doing it, and he would. One of 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: my favorite answers was he said, I'm gonna be nice 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: to you, but that doesn't mean I like you, and 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I have to bear a podcast that's 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: a very exactly. So, so he finally did, and I 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: guess he was feeling a good mood once he got 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: that signing bonus Smile out of Space and off season two, 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: as he'll get into, I don't wanna you know, ruin. 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't want me to spoil it, but Marshall's a 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: very focused guy. So it improved our chances that this 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: is the off season to get him. Yeah, so before 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: we get into that, we want to read an email 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: here here we always love your guys emails. You can 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: read us every week at the last at Ravens thought 45 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. This one comes to us from Eric 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: Sewell and Eric Road. Hey, guys, thanks for keeping the 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Ravens podcast going. I've been an avid listener since podcast 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: number one. Thank you right from the start. That was 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: even before Cliff was in the house. Here he said, 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: it's one of his brain spots every week, and his 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: question is every year I go through the same song 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: and dance. I scanned all the mock drafts, pray we 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to get a great receiver. Watch the draft, laugh, 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: laugh at how all these mocks were wrong, and then 55 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: memorize the names of our draft picks, especially the wide receivers. 56 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: But after so many years of patiently waiting for guys 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: and then you get David Read, Tommy Streeter, Darren Waller 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: not obviously the most successful receivers, you wait on them 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: to develop. What makes our latest group of receivers primed 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: to succeed is the new receiver's co coach. What is it? So, 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: before we get into this interview with Marshall, you what 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: makes this receiver class different. Well, I think talent number one. Um, 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Marquis Brown does things you can't coach. 64 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: That speed you can't coach. His change of direction you 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: can't coach. So I think the Ravens are getting a 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: receiver that already is blessed with a lot of town 67 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: and he's worked extremely hard. H He's gotten to this 68 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: level always being doubted for his size. So he's also 69 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: a very determined young man. I think he's determined to 70 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: succeed here and all that will help him. And then 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Myles boy that I think he's a guy that comes 72 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: from a solid program, used to play against big time competition, 73 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: another guy who's a tremendous athlete, has size, um, and 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: I think he'll get an opportunity obviously to contribute. So 75 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, when I think thought at the wide 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: receivers before the draft, I love it's quote about they 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: need to take more swings at the position. They did that. 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Um My dad used to tell me, you know, you 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: learn from the past, but you can't live in it. 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: And just because they've made, you know, picks at that 81 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: position that haven't worked out, can't make you afraid to 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: go do what the pick receivers. Again, I think they've 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: learned from some of the things they've done the past 84 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: why certain guys didn't work out. And I think they 85 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: stayed away from some things with these picks that they 86 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: maybe would have tempted to do and go in another direction. 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: So for all those reasons, I would be optimistic that 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: these two wide receivers will turn out to be the 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Raven players of the Ravens be So my first way 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: to answer this question is, we don't know yet, We'll see. 91 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: We truly don't know, and I agree with all the 92 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: points you made, but at the end of the day, 93 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: we'll find out, like we'll find out if these guys 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: are different. With that said, the reason I think that 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: they will be different is the point that you made 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: about learning from the past. The Ravens have spent a 97 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: ton of time, and fans always ask this question, what 98 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: are you doing differently to basically fix the mistakes that 99 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: you've made in drafting past receivers. The Ravens have spent 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: a ton of time studying, evaluating, criticizing, critiquing themselves for 101 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: all the race receiver picks they've made, what's gone right 102 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: and what's gone wrong? And trying to figure out how 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: do we avoid having any more misses at this position. 104 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: They have absolutely taken a deep dive into that topic, 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: and so I think they've learned from some of those mistakes. 106 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: And so the other thing, too is I don't I 107 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: don't have the full list of all twenty three drafts 108 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: for the Ravens in their history. I don't know if 109 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: they've ever taken two receivers in the top three, top 110 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: three rounds. I'm not sure if they ever had. And 111 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: so that goes to your point of taking shots, and 112 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I think that that there's beyond just having some misses 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: at the position. If there's one thing to criticize, and 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: the Ravens have admitted it, it's that they haven't taken 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: enough receivers in the first three rounds. You know, they 116 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: took Tor Smith in the second round in two thousand eleven. 117 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: They didn't take one of the first three rounds until 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: they took Shot Perriman in the first round in two 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. But that's it, And some of these 120 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: other teams haven't taken guys every year every other year 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds. So now you got to there. 122 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, I think that that is a good strategy. 123 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: You take more swings in the position, you learn, you 124 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: study what's going wrong in the past, and look highly 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: productive player in Marquis Brown. It's never a bad thing 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: to get the most electric player in college football, or 127 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: one of them. So right, Um, that's a long segue. 128 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: A little more draft talk there, um, but that's along 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: segue into this interview with Marsha Yanda. I know you 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: guys really excited to hear that. So without any further Ado, 131 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: let's kick it over to this interview that you and 132 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: Ryan had a chance to do with future Hall of 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Famer Marrionda. Well, Marshall, we finally got you on the podcast. 134 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: We've been asking for three years now. You just saw 135 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: a list of the question and he is not feeling 136 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: good about how long this list is. How are we 137 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: finally able to convince you? Marshall, Well, you know, it's 138 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: it's the off season for number one, so just you 139 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: know that I don't have to be worried about playing 140 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: somebody or preparing for an opponent, so the stress levels low, 141 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just got done signing my contracts, 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, feeling really excited and fortunate and uh, 143 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I just wanted to, you know, give some extra time 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: right now, because I have extra time. The off season 145 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: is for more media, you know. During the season, I'm 146 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: just I'm lazing focused on you know, my opponent, my 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: preparation and uh, and not having any distractions, whether that's media, 148 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, family, you know, just a family dist our, friends. 149 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: I put it all away and and focus. Well, what 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: are the beneficiaries? And speaking of family, you're here with 151 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: your wife, Shannon. He's sitting on the couch with us, 152 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: declined Mike. Not surprisingly she has a yonda Yes, exactly 153 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: keeps her keeps your keeps. Uh. Yeah, she's in the 154 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: shadows for sure. How special is this day to sign 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the contract of one year extension with your life here? 156 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: You know? Just how special is it? Yeah? You know, 157 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think of the word is just I'm grateful, 158 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like, you know, I've worked really 159 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: hard and uh it's been a great relationship with the 160 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Ravens and uh just feel really fortunate to be drafted 161 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: by them and uh and just have a chance to 162 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: finish it here, you know. And uh and uh, like 163 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: I said, the word is is grateful and uh and 164 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm fired up about it so that they answer is 165 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: one of my questions, which is are the Ravens gonna 166 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: be the only team you ever played for? Yeah? I 167 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: hope so, you know, I mean, I mean, you know, 168 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: you never say never in the NFL, just because you 169 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: just you don't know what's gonna happen, you know, a 170 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: year down the road. But I mean I would hope so. 171 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: And the other the other Newsy question for you, does 172 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: this mean you are playing well? I still I mean 173 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: I I answer that question the same, you know, the 174 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: last couple of years. You know, you still have to 175 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: take it one year at a time, reassess, reevaluate, just 176 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't know, you know, injury wise 177 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: and how my body is gonna feel. So I'm definitely 178 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: excited about playing this fall. Um, you know, just my 179 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: body feels great. I haven't had to rehab the injuries 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: the last you know, two years either this I had 181 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: three different you know sites to rehab. So that was 182 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: just you know, mentally, mentally just uh tough, you know, 183 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: just you know, grinding through that rehab. Now I just 184 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: get to lift and work out. I do maintenance on 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: my on my on my stuff. But it's different than 186 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: like trying to get your range of motion back in 187 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: my shoulders and stuff like that. So I'm just really 188 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: excited that I'm healthy, feeling good, and uh, like I said, 189 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm grateful, but it's gotta be nice that you don't 190 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: go into the last year your contract. So you're basically like, 191 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: if I at the end of twenty nine team want 192 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: to play some more, I know where I'm going to 193 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: be out to worry about that exactly. That's exactly right, Yep, 194 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Yeah, at the end of this 195 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: past year, I mean, you were healthy, playing great man 196 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: of the Pro Bowl team went to the playoff. Did 197 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: you really have to think about maybe be time after 198 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: this year? Were you pretty sure with this year and 199 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: that you're gonna play at least one more? Well? No, 200 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean so since that year is gone, you know, 201 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: But I went into that year not knowing if my 202 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: shoulder was going to hold up, because you know, my shoulder, 203 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: my right shoulder, I've had two U two surgeries on 204 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: that shoulder and it's to the same area, so I 205 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: didn't know that was gonna hold up. So every every 206 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: day was a new day, you know, and and I 207 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: attacked the day, and I just kind of see how 208 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: it went, and I didn't know. You know, you just 209 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: take it one day at a time, and I was 210 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: hoping I got to do exactly what last year happened. 211 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I prepared for that, but you just, I mean, you 212 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: just there's only so many things that you can control. 213 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: So I just took it one game at a time. Okay, 214 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: it held up after one game, great, two games great, 215 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, And once I got to like week six, 216 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: I started feeling like, Okay, it's probably gonna hold it 217 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: feels pretty good. You know. Then by the end of 218 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: the year, I was really excited. You know. Every week 219 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: that went by, I just gained a little bit more 220 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: confidence that my body was gonna hold up. And then 221 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I could still play because um and without getting injured. 222 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: You know. So but last year, if I did like 223 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: end the season on I R, you know, I probably 224 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: was going to retire just because they're like, you don't 225 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: want to push your body too much. And I mean, 226 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: and I love this game, and and that's the reason 227 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: why I play, because I really love doing it. But 228 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to get to that point where I'm 229 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: beat up too much by the game, just because in 230 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: this you know, sport, You're not gonna be able to 231 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: do what you always want to do. I'm gonna set 232 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: out to start, you know, a hundred and fifty games 233 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: or whatever your goals. Like, things change, injuries happen, you 234 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: just boom at the slap of your hangers. You can 235 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: blot your knee and then your your life changes. So 236 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, with the ankle, I mean, that's not a 237 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: life changing injury. But you know, but no, I mean, 238 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: and I did it my second year, you know, I 239 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: mean I toured three out of the four legaments my 240 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: second year in the league. So I mean, I I 241 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: know that this game can be taken away from you 242 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: at just the snap of your fingers. So that's where 243 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm always just you know, I'm just I take care 244 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: of today. I take care of the one year at 245 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: a time. But like I said, I was, you know, 246 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: I was ready to say if if I couldn't make 247 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: it through healthy that that you know that the game 248 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: was going to tell me if that was enough. But 249 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: like I said, I my mind is still. I love 250 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs, love to compete, you know, I mean I 251 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: love to you know, wake up on Sunday morning and 252 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: just ready to get after somebody's you know what, that 253 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: that fire is still there. So um, but like I said, 254 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: I I understill understand the body is very important as well. 255 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: You have to be able to basically retire and still 256 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: pick up a calf or some hay or something like that. 257 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: You can't and we have problems exactly, Yes, for sure. 258 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean this this has been a crazy offseason obviously. 259 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Flacketts are all sugs. Some of these 260 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: big name guys, guys you played with for a long time, 261 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: no doubt, how weird has that been for you? And 262 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: moving forward that I mean, you're a leader, you're you're 263 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: always a leader on this team, but now you're like 264 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: one of the longest tenure guys. You know. Yeah, I 265 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: just you know, you know, it's just the nature of 266 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: the NFL, you know. I mean, I just feel like 267 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: sooner or later, all good things have to come to 268 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: an end. And as far as like you know, Joe 269 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: getting a second chance, you know, uh, second shot in Denver, 270 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for him about that. And just to 271 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, teams can't stay together forever, right, 272 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: sooner or later, guys got to go there certain ways 273 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: and you try to stay together as long as you can. 274 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: But you understand that the NFL, that is a business, 275 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: right and uh, and everybody's gotta take care of their 276 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: families and do what's right for them. So so you know, 277 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: like I said, you see that. I've seen that over 278 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: the years. You get to see guys come and go, 279 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: and that's part of it. But like you said, though, 280 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: not being out there with Terrell and not being out 281 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: there with Joe is going to be way different for 282 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: me for sure. You know, obviously it was like Ed 283 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: and Ray back then, and I feel like now it's 284 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: definitely oh and says, and it's just it's gonna be tough. 285 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: But I mean, but like I said, that's that's the 286 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: nature of the beast that we that we understand, and 287 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: and no better player understands that than an older player. 288 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I want to go back a little bit and just 289 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: talk about your career in the Rise. I mean, it's 290 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: an incredible story that because you're an offensive lineman doesn't 291 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: get told all that much and because you're just more 292 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: of a private guy. But I mean, you start your 293 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: career North Iowa Area Community College and basically, you know, 294 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: get a spot at Iowa because you're hanging around their practices. 295 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you weren't like a highly recruited guy, your 296 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: third round pick and undersized guy. And now we sit 297 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: here and you're a potential likely Hall of Famer in 298 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: our eyes? How does that happen? Just if you could 299 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: explain that the kids out there, Yeah, how's that happen? Yeah? 300 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, I mean I feel like it just took 301 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: a lot of hard work and and and a lot 302 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: of a lot of good choices. You know, I tell you, 303 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, tell the young kids and younger players that 304 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: are trying to make it, and they're you know, coming 305 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: from like my hometown and animal, so you know, just uh, 306 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: I worked really hard. I made some good choices. I 307 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: made some bad choices, and uh and the bad choices 308 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: led to me going to the community college first, and 309 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: then I started to make good choices, and then that 310 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: also opened up making those good choices and working extremely 311 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: hard open up those opportunities, you know, and I just kept, 312 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, once I got on those railroad tracks of 313 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: making the right choices, you know, putting football in grades 314 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: first before everything else and literally putting everything else on 315 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: the backburn, that's when I really started to increase, you know, 316 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: And once I got to Iowa that really you know, 317 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, coach Fern's was an offensive line coach. You know, 318 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: the head coach was an offensive line coach. Here, he's 319 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman background, and like Iowa football is is 320 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: kind of like an offensive lineman university. So they really 321 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: put me on the tracks. And then I just kept, 322 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, I try to you know, 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: stay the same every day, you know, I try to 324 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: attack every day and uh and get better and and 325 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: they just said, you never know how far it's gonna 326 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: take you. I just wanted to play at Iowa in college. 327 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: That was my goal, just because when I was at 328 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: community college, you know what, even thinking about the NFL, 329 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: you're thinking about getting Division one scholarship. Well, you know, 330 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Iowa State had offered me a Division on scholarship. I 331 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: WA wanted me to walk on. So that's the story 332 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: where it's like I wanted to be a Hawkeye, right 333 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: and luckily that worked out. But like I said, yeah, 334 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: just it's been a you know, it's been a grind, 335 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You just take it one 336 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: day at a time and you don't know like how 337 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: successful you can be. Until you just start stacking the days, 338 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: making those right choices. You know, those little choices during 339 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: the day, you know that are easy to make. It's 340 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: the easy choice to eat the right foods or the 341 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: wrong through foods. You know, it's the easy It's the 342 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: easy choice to stay up till twelve thirty or go 343 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: to bed at ten pm and get your sleep. You know. 344 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean all those little choices that you make, you know, 345 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: they compound and they compound into into into success, you know, 346 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: and grinding on the practice field getting better as a 347 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: football player, that doesn't stop. So all those little things 348 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: compounded for me, you know, doing things the right way 349 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: for a long period of time definitely made me better 350 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: every year as a player, made me, you know, keep 351 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: striving and be a better player. And that just all 352 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: compounded to me being a good football player. And it's 353 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's still working. You know. I still 354 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: uh still continue that those same habits, and if I 355 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: get into a lane something that's successful, I I try 356 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: to not alter that path. Yeah. Now you did get 357 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: a little distracted in college. You didn't eat your wife, 358 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: yes for sure. So yeah a farm girl, Yeah, yeah, 359 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: for sure, there was that. Yeah, there was for sure 360 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: that was a good decision. A not a good decision 361 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: that was that's for sure, no doubt about it. Well, look, 362 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: as a friends me knowing how focus you are, to 363 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: hear you say like, not that you're perfect, I made 364 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: some bad choices, but because you've been focused seemingly for 365 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: so long, Yeah, did you have like a moment that 366 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: something's happened to man? I gotta change because yes. So 367 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I had an opportunity 368 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: to play Division one ball out of high school and 369 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: my grades were not in order. So I mean, I 370 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: definitely missed out on a big opportunity to go to 371 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: a Division one program and it's just because of my grades, 372 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: and it's just because of me being lazy mentally, you know, 373 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: I just you have to show up, pay attention in 374 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: school and do your homework and you're gonna get good grades. 375 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: And you know it's not that hard. But I was 376 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: mentally lazy that I didn't do homework. I didn't, you know, 377 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: get in good habits to do things the right way. 378 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: So I didn't do homework at night, and I didn't 379 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: pay attention to class just because it wasn't a priority me. 380 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: So once I figured out that cost me like a 381 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: Division one scholarship. Once I went to JUCO, I was like, 382 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like I'm going a percent football and and 383 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: not turning back. Like that first season after my freshman 384 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: year of college, there's like a hundred and twenty guys 385 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: in the football team, and six of us stayed for 386 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: the summer workouts. Six players. So we're in like in 387 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: a dorm room with no air conditioning, cooking on electric 388 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: skillet on our desk, and there's six of us, and 389 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: there's kind of like we're kind of like the band, like, 390 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, a small team, and there's only six of 391 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: us out of a hundred twenty that made that choice. 392 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: Everybody else wanted to go back home, you know, on 393 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: party and be back, you know with your friends, and 394 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: everybody's back for summer break. No we you know, I 395 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: made that choice. You know. I was like, I was 396 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: gonna make that right choice right there. It's like, I'm 397 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna try to graduate in a year and a half. 398 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: I took like eighteen semester hours that summer so I 399 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: could graduate in a year and a half. So that 400 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: would that would help your chances be going to a 401 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Division one program in the winter, so you could go 402 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: through spring ball instead, so that would help your ODDE. 403 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: So our coach explained that to us. I was like, hey, 404 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give myself every opportunity now. So it definitely 405 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: switched when I missed that opportunity to go Division one 406 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: right out the gate. When you came into the NFL 407 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, I read a funny story 408 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: that you walking into the locker room, you see Jo's 409 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: locker there, and you see Jo walking, You're like, good 410 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: God to this guy. I mean, how much did that 411 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: kind of shape you? And now looking back on that 412 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: to say, hey, man, maybe I I could join Jo 413 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: in the hall. How crazy is that? Well, I don't think, 414 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: like you know, I've definitely, you know, done some good 415 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: things over my career, but to like to to put 416 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: me in the category at Jonathan does not you know, 417 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: it's not but if you're still wearing the gold jacket, 418 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: I know. But I'm just saying, like the mammoth of 419 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: a man that he was and what he did, you 420 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's just like his careers, like 421 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's just not what the biggest thing I 422 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: learned from j O is like you know, people were like, great, 423 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: you get to learn from j oh you know what 424 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: I mean, like my year. But there was the problem. 425 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: There was that like I couldn't do a thing that 426 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: man can do, you know what I mean. He was 427 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: six nine, had arms you know that were like six 428 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: ft long or whatever, and I couldn't play football like him. 429 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: So I learned, and I tell the young guys this 430 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: all the time, Like within the framework of coaching and 431 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: how your body type is, you have to find out 432 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: what makes you successful and you have to be able 433 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: to uh duplicate that and be consistent. So like, yeah, 434 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it a certain way. The way I 435 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: take my pass set might be just a little different 436 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: than the way you take years, but we still got 437 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: to get to the same point of being a consistent blocker. 438 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: So you're gonna be doing that through practice, like trial 439 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: and error. I'm gonna try this set. This is gonna 440 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: work for me, this is not gonna work. So within 441 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: the framework of coaching, you have in your body type, 442 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: because my body types different than you know what I mean, 443 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: like James Hurst are different than Orlando Brown. Let me 444 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: look how big Orlando is and how look at look 445 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: at the difference between Orlando and Ronnie, you know what 446 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean. Ronnie's shorter, Orlando's like so, I mean everybody 447 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: has a little different body type, uh, knees, arms, everything, 448 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: So you're finding within your body what makes you six spot. 449 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest key as they figure it out, 450 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: to get your body to do what you wanted to 451 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: do on tape and and be consistent. How difficult going 452 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: back to this year or next year, even how difficult 453 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: lanch year was it for you guys an offensive line 454 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: to switch gears right in the middle of the season 455 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: when you went from Joe littlemore And how excited are 456 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: you about what the offense may look like as offensive 457 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: line and with the mare and as much as you 458 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: guys at least saying are going to run the football? Yeah? Well, 459 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, you know, when you're in 460 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: the NFL, like things changed so fast, you know, as 461 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: far as like you know, even after an entire year, 462 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: you can change it and have a new offense. You know, 463 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: sometimes teams have a new offense every year. So we 464 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: just did it at a halfway point, you know, But 465 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: we had done some of the the RPO stuff in 466 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: training camp and kind of got a decent tasting of 467 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: it in training camp. So once we you know, decided 468 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: to hit it full the whole fit at full speed 469 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: on Lamar was in. You know, it wasn't too bad. 470 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't too bad obviously. You know, we 471 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: won the ball games, and we were consistent, and we definitely, uh, 472 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: we definitely did some good things. But I mean, running 473 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: the full ball in general, I'm all for. You know 474 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, it's complimentary football, you know, 475 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean. It keeps your defense off the field, keeps 476 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: them fresh, so when they when they're out there, they 477 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: they're ready to rock and roll and they're and they're fresh. 478 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: We possess the clock, takes the pressure off the quarterback 479 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: to you know what I mean. And then for us, 480 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: we get to be the aggressor for them, Like we 481 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: get to go out and fire out and strike the 482 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Rather if you're pass setting for fifty times 483 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: a game, I'm setting off the ball every single play 484 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: and I'm absorbing a pass rush. When you get to 485 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: run the football, I get to go vertical right at 486 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: you and I'm gonna hit you square between your numbers. 487 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: You know. The soul so once, but exactly so once 488 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: the so once the pass plays come, they're a little 489 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: worn down. They're a little tired. They have to be. 490 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: They're having to get off the ground from being you know, 491 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: having to tackle or having to be you know, cut 492 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: down on the back side, or having to be double 493 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: team you know what I mean, and have your have 494 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: your butt walked off the ball on the double team. 495 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: So it takes the you know, I mean, it takes 496 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: the ump out of their pass rush. So when they 497 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: do have to pass rush, they're they're they're not as 498 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: as willing. But now you get a d line where 499 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: they know they're gonna throw the ball fifty times a game. 500 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: They're licking their chops all game long because they know 501 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: that sooner or later they're gonna win. If they if 502 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: we have to pass the ball fifty times, all five 503 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: of us are gonna get beat at least once out 504 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: of fifty and if not a lot more. I mean, 505 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: that's the odds are just exactly. I mean, they're you know, 506 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: so like I said, I'm all four and and all 507 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: coordinators all say they want to start out running the football. 508 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: But it takes commitment, it takes you know, commitment. When 509 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: the crap hits the fan, you still gotta stick to 510 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: your guns and not alter, you know what I mean. 511 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: And I and I and I think Greg does that. 512 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, day in and day out, 513 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna run the football. It doesn't matter if we're 514 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: up by you know, because I mean, I feel like 515 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: sometimes when I've had coordinators where you get down ten 516 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: points and all of a sudden, we gotta just throw 517 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: the game plan out and we gotta go to two 518 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: jet and empty and we gotta just rock and roll, 519 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: you know. And that's not you know what I mean. 520 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: We can still We're only ten points down. We're not 521 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: We're not you know. So you know, so, like I said, 522 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: I think it takes extreme commitment and and discipline to 523 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: stay with the running game in the NFL, because it is, 524 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it is really hard to run the football 525 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So you gotta be They test you 526 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: for sure. What is the most fun part of the 527 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: game for you still at this point, pancake block You 528 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: look down at that guy, what is it? It's it's 529 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: hard to pancake a dude like one on one, like 530 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: literally one on one in the NFL it's hard to 531 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: move a guy like three yards off the ball is 532 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of room because like when you literally 533 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: watch the line of scrimmage move, if you move a 534 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: guy three yards is really tough. So my funnest thing 535 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: is watching the defense get tired, Like so like what 536 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: whether that is? How like when you're like break a 537 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: person's will, when like not necessarily break their will, like literally, 538 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: but like by the fourth quarter when they don't want none, 539 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: you can see it in their faces that they've had 540 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: a long day and they can't stop it either, you 541 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like literally, you're in games where 542 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the place is called, they know 543 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: it's coming. They're tired, and they're physically beat down, and 544 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: you're getting on them, you know what I mean, And 545 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: you're running the same place and just and just getting 546 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: after them. So I mean, that's that's imposing your will. 547 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: That's being physical, that's being aggressive. That's you know the 548 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: football that I love. I love being physical. And I 549 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: mean and then like the blood and the water mentality 550 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: where if they can't stop the run and and we're 551 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: just we're being aggressive. You know, that's that's what I love. 552 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: Like I said, four minute, four minute, four minute in 553 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter with a big lead. You know that's 554 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: sounds good to me. You can just see you like 555 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: it excited. Yea, yeah, I mean you know, I mean, 556 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you know, I love the game, 557 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: and I love you know, I got a lot of passion, 558 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and and uh and playing football has always 559 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: been a lot of fun to me. And uh, like 560 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: I said, you know, waking up on Sunday mornings, you know, 561 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm excited to play and excited for the opportunity. And 562 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: I also you know, every morning that I wake up, 563 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm grateful that, you know, I get to play football 564 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: at this level, you know, just because you know, it's 565 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a given. It it's a it's 566 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a long road to get here. And like you said, 567 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I came from community college where I understand 568 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: that you're you're a you're a very small statistic guys 569 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: that make it all the way to this level. So 570 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'm grateful wake up and you're in the NFL. 571 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: Like I tell the young guys, you guys are in 572 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: the NFL right now, right, So bust your butts, you know, 573 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: do your best and see where it takes you. You 574 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: don't know. The sky's the limit. So I'm I'm I'm 575 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: grateful already two or three guys, did you can think 576 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: over you could be where will you get ready to 577 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: play him? You're like, man, I know this is gonna 578 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: be yeah for sure. Yeah, Like I would feel like 579 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: back in the days, like you know, the Steelers when 580 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: they had Casey Hampton and Aaron Smith and uh and 581 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: you know James Harrison, Lamar Woodley. You know, I played 582 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: bright tackle as Lamar Woodley and James Harrison, you know, 583 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: and like we played the game up there in two 584 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: thousand and ten and it was me and Mike or 585 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: Michael was playing left I was playing right tackle, and 586 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: we shut them out, like you know, I mean we 587 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: had a game where like they had the most sacks 588 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: combined as a tandem due in the league. And that 589 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: game up in Pittsburgh, we beat him, and me and 590 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: Mike didn't give up a sack, and it like, you know, 591 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: just those dog fights and you know that like you're 592 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: going against the best, So like the Steelers back in 593 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: the day, and then like I would say, I've had 594 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of good one on one battles with Gino 595 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: Atkins with the Bengals. You know, like that dude is 596 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: a is a stud bowl, you know what I mean. 597 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: I got a lot of respect for him, and uh 598 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: and I enjoy like going against the best players, you 599 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like when I I mean, I 600 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: love playing every week, but like it gets me fired 601 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: up playing good competition and playing I mean, you're playing 602 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: against the best in the world, So I mean, I 603 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: I definitely get excited about that. And I've had a 604 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: good battle with J. J. Watt over the years too. 605 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: We played them a while. They're like back in like nine, ten, eleven, 606 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: and twelve, we played them a lot. We had some 607 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: like some some tough games down in Houston, but we 608 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: had it's really good like one on one like battles 609 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: where we're passing the ball a lot and and we 610 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: were getting after it. So I would say those those 611 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: three come to mind. So on on the flip side, 612 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: of all the tough dudes that you've played with in Baltimore, 613 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: was the last guy that you would ever want to fight? 614 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: Did I ever want to fight? Oh? Boy, I'm not 615 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: a fighter, you know what I mean, Like literally, like 616 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: like what like I'm a I'm a physical like physical, 617 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: get after football. But I played basketball in high school, 618 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: but like to but to literally, you know, put the 619 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: dukes up and go after it. I'm not I'm not 620 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: a fist fighter. But um, I don't even know. Somebody 621 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: asked me a long time. I said, Steve, and I'll 622 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: give him. I'll give him it right now, just because 623 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you know he's a little guy. But you know what, 624 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: I feel like you'd have to hit him with a 625 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: bat and he still keep coming, you know what I mean, 626 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I think he would just get more angry. Yeah, that's 627 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I don't think I don't think 628 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: that you could hit him enough. I think you probably 629 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: have to kill him before you get to stop, you know, 630 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean, And I mean, but I mean, I'll tell 631 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: you what I mean. I love that about that man. 632 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: I mean, and you get to play and that's the 633 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: cool thing about the NFL. You get to play with 634 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: so many great guys that that are that are serious 635 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: competitors and like you want to talk about a competitive 636 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: guy on Sunday, Like I loved it, you know, I mean, 637 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: I just love to being in the same on the 638 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: same team with a guy like that, where like he 639 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: was like laying it out there and you better be 640 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: ready because he's he's fired up and he's you know 641 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: so I mean, yeah, he's love being around guys like that. 642 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: Well on that line, I would be afraid to talk 643 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: to you. Like when you go out to warm up 644 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: for a game. Yeah, it's like you're in a trance, 645 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: no doubt. Yes, yes, how do you? How do you 646 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 1: get there? Like? So, like Ray Ray talked about flipping 647 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: the switch. Ray lewis right, and you gotta play this 648 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: game piste off and literally, like if you want to 649 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: play consistent for six team plus games going into the playoffs, 650 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: you gotta play mad. And literally, when Sunday hits, there's 651 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: gotta be like that little hair that goes back on 652 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: the back of your neck like it's even doing right 653 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: now me talking about it that Like literally, you gotta 654 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: have that switch and you have to fire it up 655 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: for four hours. You better be ready to chew on 656 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: some nails and chew a guy's leg off to get 657 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: it done, you know what I mean? So, I mean, 658 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: so like when I wake up Sunday morning, like there's 659 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: no there's no smiling, there's no laughing. It's game on 660 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: and like and we can be friends after, but like 661 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: for four hours, like I'm gonna try to win at 662 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: all costs, you know what I mean, just because And 663 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: I feel like that is an edge the players don't 664 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: take advantage of because it's hard to do that. It's 665 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: hard to get in that mindset. But that's a mental 666 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: toughness that you have to be in. And and like 667 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: I said, if that helps me as a player, because 668 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: I've had the games where I was a younger player 669 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: where sometimes you know, it gets tough and you're you're 670 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: banged up and you're injured, and mentally you're like, you know, 671 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't feel like you know, like I can, I 672 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: can give it all today, Like if you're mad though, 673 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: and you're piste off and you use it as as 674 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: a as a weapon and use it like to to 675 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: help you. That's helped me beacon more consistent, you know 676 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's the game and the NFL 677 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: is trying to be consistent, not have those really rough games, 678 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, have a lot of penalties or give up 679 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks or a lot of negative hits. 680 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: Don't have those games. Well, I've had those games more 681 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: often when I was a younger player, so I tried to, 682 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, every year, eliminate as much of those as 683 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: I could. And and having that that mindset showing up 684 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday definitely helps. And and like I said, I mean, 685 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, Ray used to say all the time, you 686 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: gotta play piste off, and you do. I mean, when 687 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: Sunday hits, there ain't no like I'm ready to rock. 688 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you ain't there. Yeah, like let's let's go, 689 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: let's go. You talk about yeah, yeah, in the in 690 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: the morning, the morning, he's already focused. Yeah, like yeah, 691 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: like she can't like she can say hi, good luck, 692 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: I love you, and I'll talk to you after like 693 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't want to hear I 694 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 1: don't want to hear your day last night, as long 695 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: as everybody's alive and healthy, like I'll talk to you 696 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: after the game, you know what I mean, Because it's 697 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a battle. It is and like 698 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: and you don't know. And and it's also like you 699 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: also get hurt too, Like I think about it before 700 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: every Sunday to you're one play away from from having 701 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: a really bad injury. And that's on a player's mind. 702 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: It's part of it. You know what I mean. So 703 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: you're you're also there's there's a lot of nerves involved 704 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: too that like you play contact sporting and I mean, 705 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, and stuff, stuff can happen, for sure. You're 706 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: talking about flipping the switch, flipping it the other way. 707 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: What are you doing the off season going back to Iowa. 708 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: You're going out and you're I see the two thousand 709 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: seven Chevy Silverado. You're still driving that around fishing old 710 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Blue yea, we got old Blue back and back in Iowa. Um, 711 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: it mainly consists of family time with my wife's family 712 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: and my family, and then uh, you know, I I 713 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: luckily I grew up close to where the University of 714 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: Iowa colleges, so I drive down. It's about a half 715 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: hour driving. I drive down to the college and work 716 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: out with the coaching staff down in Iowa. So that 717 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: gives me the platform to be able to work out 718 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: and get a really good workout in Like I couldn't 719 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: be back there. I wouldn't trust myself to just go 720 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: like to a to a just a local gym and 721 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: work out by yourself. You know, you have to have 722 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: structure and uh and being able to go down there 723 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: and and Coach Farrents and Coach Doyle have been there 724 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: for over twenty years now, you know, and they're like 725 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: family to me, you know, I mean, and they've done 726 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: so much for me and like and help me mentally. 727 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Like my mental toughness comes from those guys too, A 728 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of it, you know, obviously from my parents, but 729 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: from from those guys that Iowa. They shaped me about 730 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: doing things the right way, being accountable, being on time, 731 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, taking care of today, controlling what you can control. 732 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: All that stuff came from them. So I have that 733 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: that avenue in Iowa. It's there for me. Like because 734 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: some guys you know, go to they say that they 735 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: grew up in Texas and they went to college in Iowa. 736 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, well, they're not gonna be able to go 737 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: back to Iowa when their families in Texas, right, So 738 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: I feel fortunate that like my family and where I 739 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: went to college. And it's also a really good program 740 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: where you know, they know, you know, strength and conditioning 741 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: with coach Oil is yeah, they get after it, so 742 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: it keeps me young. I work out with the college kids, 743 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm literally stretching with them and lifting with 744 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: them and getting after it. With them and they're getting 745 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: after it, so I mean, I, um, I just enjoy that. 746 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: And then, like I said, kids, you know, busy with 747 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: the sports. We have three kids, and you know, I'm 748 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: just busy with the practices in the afternoon, and then 749 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: we get to see her family, my uh, my dad 750 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: and then then uh, you know, my mom done and 751 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: I was city. So it's just, uh, it's a good, good, 752 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: good break because like you said, I mean every you know, 753 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: during the season, I'm wired up and I'm amped. It's 754 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: nice nice to have the off season to fish. I 755 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: also love to fish, so fishing is relaxing to me. 756 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's a stress reliever. So I uh, I 757 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: like to fish. I used to go on a lot 758 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: of fishing trips. I feel like I'm cutting back on 759 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: them now, you know the kids. But I think I 760 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: had one one off season where I went on nine 761 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 1: fishing trip. Who it must have been a little freezer 762 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: when he came back. Yeah. Yeah, some of that was 763 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: just catching release too. I mean I literally like just 764 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: catching them too. I love eating them too. But so 765 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: um yeah, podcast spinning mainly, ye have fresh water. I've 766 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: been getting into the like my biggest thing now is 767 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: uh uh fault water tunas and casting casting top water 768 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: poppers for yellow fin tuna. I've been doing that down 769 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: in Mexico. That is uh, that's a that's an extreme 770 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: ride on a spinning and spinning set up. For sure. 771 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: That's like battling a defensive lineman there. No, not that, yeah, 772 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: not at all. Still I still enjoy the enjoy the 773 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, the fight and the power of the fish. 774 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: But he's not running into me. So you can tell 775 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: how many defensive linemen up blocked and how many cast unfishing, Yeah, 776 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. And just you know, as you get closer 777 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: to retirement, where do you see yourself ten fifteen years now, 778 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Yeah? Um, I don't know that yet. 779 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna kind of sift through that when 780 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: I get done playing. Whenever that is, um, you know 781 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: it's probably it's probably gonna be back in Iowa. UM. 782 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, with you know, close to our families. You know, 783 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna raise our kids in Iowa. And whether that's uh, farming, um, 784 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: whether that's coaching, um, whether that's I would say those 785 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: two avenues or those two you know, because I don't 786 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: know how much the game is going to be how 787 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: much I'm gonna miss the game, you know, because I've 788 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: football has been my entire life. Every fall, I play football, 789 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 1: you know, and I've been doing it since you know, 790 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: seventh grade. And I've been you know, been fortunate to 791 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: keep doing it and uh and still love doing it. 792 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I grew up on a farm, and 793 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: so did my wife, and and we like the farming background, 794 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: and UH like that atmosphere of a good work ethic 795 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: and our kids, and it's a good way for us 796 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: to uh to mold our kids, you know, to try 797 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: to you know, to teach them to as long as 798 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: they have a good work ethic, that's all I care about, 799 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: you know, whatever they do in life, as long as 800 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: they work hard, I'll be happy. But if we raise 801 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: lazy kids, I'll feel like a failure. Won But I mean, well, 802 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, in this day and age, you just don't know, right, 803 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: because I mean, the world is way different and and 804 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: our kids are gonna be raised way different than we 805 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: were raised, right. I mean they're gonna grow up with 806 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: with more opportunities than than a lot more opportunities and 807 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: we had. So you have to be very careful on 808 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: how you raise your kids, so um, so we just 809 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, I want to do the right thing and 810 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: and raise them right and have them be prepared for 811 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: the world. And uh yeah, let's see how it goes. 812 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll go well. Well, thank you for joining 813 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: the problem. The problem, no problem, no problem, alright, So 814 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: thank you to you and Ryan Cliff and most especially 815 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: to Marshall for the time with that interview. What did 816 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: you take away from that? Oh, that he is uh 817 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: just as I always thought he he is, um, very introspective, 818 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: knows what's going on. Marshall, the type of guy that, 819 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: uh you can't break his uh focus. That he has 820 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,919 Speaker 1: always been a hard worker, even before he got into 821 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, he's he's a basic guy. You know, 822 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: he's a guy from from Iowa who you know believes 823 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: in hard work, and hard work has taken him to 824 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: being I think a future Hall of Famer. So yeah, 825 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: he's just a guy that the Ravens have been very 826 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: fortunate to have here his entire career. And he's still 827 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: having an impact on that offensive line, not just with 828 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: his play, but with his leadership. To a man, everyone 829 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: on that offensive line. We guards Marsha Yonda as the 830 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: leader of that group. Yeah, and we know we've got 831 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: him here for at least this year, hopefully for the 832 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: next two and it'll be exciting to see all that 833 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: he does and then likely in five years once he's 834 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: done retiring, hopefully he's headed to kid with the Gold Jackets. Cliff, 835 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: thanks again for filling in for make this week and 836 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: a great interview with Marshall. As always, you guys can 837 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: reach us as the Lounge at Raymons on NFL dot nets. 838 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for listening and we'll be back with 839 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: you next week.