WEBVTT - Mohammed Massoquoi

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do that's getting down

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<v Speaker 1>to do it? Good do it. We asked the questions

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<v Speaker 1>you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all almost there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost there, almost the Smithy man, let's cut right

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Hey, hey, hey, you're doing good. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. I just have to yeah. And it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's that time of year. Were with a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. If you I'll tell you it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those times where you know, I know, your

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<v Speaker 1>appearances are starting to pick up, and it's want to

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<v Speaker 1>travel a little bit more worse, things are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>lighten up. But we've had a little bit of conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a what's a common misconception when you're doing either

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<v Speaker 1>speaking events or appearances or whatever it is for maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a sponsor, what's a misconception when you show up to

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<v Speaker 1>an event or whatever that whatever that event is? Great question,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple things. One, Uh, I'm taller aside from the physical Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people like, oh you're talling what I thought than when

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<v Speaker 1>they when they when they give you some credit on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like, I thought you expect me to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I take that as a straight up compliment, sull. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know you said taller right. Um. The other is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you you you a little a little thick, like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a football player, like, oh, yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of did. Um. And this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily know how to take it. Take it

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<v Speaker 1>as a backhanded compliment. Mm hmm. You're a lot different

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<v Speaker 1>than what I expected. And I'm not sure what they

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<v Speaker 1>expected and what do they mean by that, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I take it as a maybe you're not as stupid

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<v Speaker 1>as I thought, or um, you speak so well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've heard you speak. You don't really sound

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<v Speaker 1>well like uneducated on the phone. You know. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how it is when you're certain, when you show up

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<v Speaker 1>for certain things and you actually speak, people are shocking

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<v Speaker 1>and you actually are educated in the things that come

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<v Speaker 1>out of your mouth. So you know what, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show up to event as one day

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<v Speaker 1>in the suit just sagging, sagging bag and berry in

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<v Speaker 1>the suit. You're gonna be abody back for that one. No,

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<v Speaker 1>why is passed down? What a designer belt walking right now? People? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the what are the the I guess those

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<v Speaker 1>misconceptions for sure. I was in there. I have been

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<v Speaker 1>in a meeting where you know, I've been told that

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't know, if I can't catch football, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be his meet. I was. It was. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>actually in a financial meeting um with a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>told me, and I hate being in business meetings and

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<v Speaker 1>people say, well, let me, uh, let me break it

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<v Speaker 1>down for you, as if you didn't get it the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. Oh no, let me go deeper. Please don't

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<v Speaker 1>cut me off. Wait, touche, let me get your football

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. What do you mean a football? Analogy?

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<v Speaker 1>Were talking about business like you ain't gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it another way, and so, uh my, my

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<v Speaker 1>financial guy d c uh he when he's hears that

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<v Speaker 1>and they do that, he always puts his head down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh damn, they just messed up this deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had people in a financial meeting talking about stocks, bonds,

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<v Speaker 1>mutual funds, passive income assets, them being the liability. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me break this down for football, and then they try

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<v Speaker 1>to well, you know I'm the quarterback. Oh god, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it sounds horrible, right, And you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>your wide receiver, but you know we're gonna let someone

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<v Speaker 1>else be the wide receiver. And you know you be

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<v Speaker 1>the lineman, Rich I'm not blocking. Well I gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>the lineman. Why does it have to be a football analogy?

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't we just are you making me passive income?

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer bottom line? So i've they didn't they didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>you would know that. But then what was even great

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<v Speaker 1>about this is I think, oh, hey, oh seven. We

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<v Speaker 1>were at a at a we were in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and and we were at lunch and they start talking

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Then right before he goes to the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, you know, what's the raider on the return? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what do you guys projecting? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys have numbers? And he goes, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got use your bathroom, but just let you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean really, you know, we're just getting started. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he went to the bathroom. I looked at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at d C. I said, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>hear what he said? He says, I didn't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know they want to be be their first client.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even have performa. So you thought they thought

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<v Speaker 1>that you were just gonna walk in there and just

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love whatever they were gonna say, And you

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<v Speaker 1>were supposed to just fall forward because you some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of dumb jock, or you you're not you're not prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for the meeting, or you don't have the information. They

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing. All they have was they didn't even the

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<v Speaker 1>sad part, the projections they had were not even real

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<v Speaker 1>projections because they had no performer. They had no actual

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<v Speaker 1>history to be able to say what they could have

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<v Speaker 1>projected for future earnings because you know, over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, this is what they've done. So as

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<v Speaker 1>you've as you've got an older, now you mature, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard you talk about this before. But as you've

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<v Speaker 1>got an older, do you still sway to not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>get people what they expect? But now you're now you're

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<v Speaker 1>more so? But do you think now more so? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to now break that stigma? Oh? Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as you're older now I have to because you because

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<v Speaker 1>I get. Then it just shows how stupid I am,

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<v Speaker 1>because then I start to play into the narrative. So

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<v Speaker 1>now you know, I make sure I present myself well.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm in a business meeting, I wear maybe jeans

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, some slacks and a collar shirt. I

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<v Speaker 1>still wear my hat flipped up, hating you know. Some

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wear tennis shoes. I wear you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>wearh some vans or some some casual shoes. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am cognizant of making sure that when I come

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<v Speaker 1>to the meeting, I don't come um like I just

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the gym. And so I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>because also too is I also represent my family, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I got to make sure that I don't present

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<v Speaker 1>myself that in a way either way that I come unprepared. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I come with and come with a pen and paper,

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<v Speaker 1>be able to take notes or if I hear something

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<v Speaker 1>that possibly rings a bell or I need more clarification

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, I have. I have that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>always make sure I come with a no pad and

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<v Speaker 1>give him that dedicated time. Dope man, breaking those misconceptions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it is, But sometimes it is fun to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of play into the narrative because they will, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there has been times where I played the angry

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<v Speaker 1>black man sometimes at the meeting because it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool to see him like get stuck down, like

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do. I'll just trying, just playing. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't kill you, I won't I don't care. I won't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't care. I won't shoot you. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>still from out y'all, I whoop you as you just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta play it a little sometimes, right, But it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>as uh d c my my financial guy. I told him, um,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, I used to watch it. I

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<v Speaker 1>used to come from like from practice when he used

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<v Speaker 1>to be downtown. So I literally would get off the

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<v Speaker 1>practice field, jumping in my car and run to his

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<v Speaker 1>office and watch him put in a call or put

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<v Speaker 1>or put in the stock. And I will watch him

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Because you don't want to be the uninformed nona.

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<v Speaker 1>I told him if he stole with me, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>told him, if you stole with me, I won't call

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<v Speaker 1>the police. I come to got come to your house

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<v Speaker 1>and get my money and some other folks money too.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, well, Schmidt, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>notice that I said, okay, and so, but that's a

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<v Speaker 1>running joke. He's been my guy ever since. But I

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<v Speaker 1>used to I used to literally go over there and

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<v Speaker 1>watch him and well schools. I actually intern intern under him. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was a different intern because when you got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of millions and he's you'm his intern. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't getting your coffee. I ain't gonna be These entry

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<v Speaker 1>level job responsibilities don't really apply to me. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>could listen, I'll call being, I'll do this, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do spreasheets. But getting you ask coffee, no, sir, get

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<v Speaker 1>your own coffee. Actually you're asking get me some car

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm still in the crimp sugar please. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who we got coming up on the Cut to It podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Mohammed Massa Kuai, five year NFL veteran, a

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<v Speaker 1>graduate of the University of Georgia, an entrepreneur, graduate from

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<v Speaker 1>the Harvard Business School, and just overall good dude. Mohammed

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<v Speaker 1>Massaki on the Cut to A Podcast. Mohammed, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining the Cut to A Podcast anytime, man, y'all some

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite people, so sure, thank you. Our first

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<v Speaker 1>segment that we do mo is called get iced up

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<v Speaker 1>and Smithy will hit you with the first question. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, here we go. You're ready, let's go. All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe money can or can't buy happiness? Yeah? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good, good question. I think that if you're happy,

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<v Speaker 1>it will allow you to do certain things that bring

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<v Speaker 1>happiness to other people. If you're unhappy, naturally they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be unhappy with money. M M, yeah, it is money

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<v Speaker 1>makes you more of what you already are. Right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go down the list. If you're ugly, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>ugly with money, right. If you're stingy, you're just stinging

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<v Speaker 1>you with money. If you're greedy or selfish, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>a selfish person with money. Right, So money cannot improve

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<v Speaker 1>your situation if you have a poor point of view, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather be a boss or employee? Oh? Boss

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<v Speaker 1>for real? I mean you gotta control your own destiny.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people leadership positions, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>always lead, right m. You want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>influence the trajectory where you go and hopefully bring other

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<v Speaker 1>people along with you. If you've been shocked. If someone

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<v Speaker 1>would say employee, sometimes I want to be employee. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like sometimes the boss says would be like the

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<v Speaker 1>social media answering, Like everyone on social media wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be a boss, but to your point, you know they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I hate more than anything. Mo, Would

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<v Speaker 1>you agree with this because we'll get into it later.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're a boss, but you have been, like me,

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<v Speaker 1>been an employee. Yeah. Man, there are some days when

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<v Speaker 1>the when the mortgage or the loan payment is due. Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>want to be employee? I get it. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. It depends on which lends you look out

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<v Speaker 1>of it with. Yeah, you gotta be wired a certain

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<v Speaker 1>way because things just like any glamorous when you yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>you got other people under you. But like that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of responsibilities, there's things that you're accountable for. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the fake version of social media where people are written

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and just taking pictures at things they're not at,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're really there, Like you know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>people that that depend on you. So when that comes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure, everyone says boss, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the responsibility of boss. Not heavy as a head.

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<v Speaker 1>M h, all right, A few more. Does truth exist

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<v Speaker 1>without evidence? I think sometimes people know now what they

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<v Speaker 1>do with the truth is a whole different animal. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think people know um deep down inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So does it exist without evidence? Though, man you need

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<v Speaker 1>It depends like some people want evidence just to say

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<v Speaker 1>that they I got you U or now I know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. But sometimes you're intuition. Sometimes even the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you question and something kid can can mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's truthful enough. If you don't trust

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<v Speaker 1>something a way, UM, you know that that that may

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<v Speaker 1>be an indicator whether you have evidence or not. UM

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<v Speaker 1>to act accordingly to what your gut is telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, I don't like that. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the last one. Now, this one is gonna throw you

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<v Speaker 1>for a loop, But just sit back, all right. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>getting to get into your character. Are you ready? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready for it? Which character? I don't know? Depending? This

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<v Speaker 1>question is gonna tell on you. This question is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. Are you character? Are you know? Is Mohammed

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<v Speaker 1>gonna answer or is massa answer? It's hope one or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. That's all you got, all right? So you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to get into a fight. What song comes on

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<v Speaker 1>as your soundtrack? I'm about to get into a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>You're about to get to a fight. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a Molly Wap knuckle knuckle right where in the alley

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<v Speaker 1>in the phone booth, fi fighting the phone booth? What soundtrack?

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<v Speaker 1>Come zone bang. I'm gonna have to take it back

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<v Speaker 1>like either like nuck if you buck or that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I just like a lot of people get to ask

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<v Speaker 1>if you buck back in the college days, so he

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<v Speaker 1>might be he might be on something you don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a fake one that now. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it tastes too long to get hyped though. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you won't shopping, that's just like reckless from the start,

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<v Speaker 1>where you gotta put on some like you ain't got time,

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<v Speaker 1>but hold on, hold on home, he skipping. Get get

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<v Speaker 1>past the first twenty seconds. Get me to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have a teammates say he got to

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<v Speaker 1>put on something Gucci, and he used to always say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the beat, so it wouldn't even be nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>Gucci said. It was just whatever is they told and

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<v Speaker 1>put on the beat is what put him in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, that's just good. You gotta ask what y'all

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<v Speaker 1>y'all it's the two right now? If you buck back,

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<v Speaker 1>what what are you'll playing right now? Off real? I

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<v Speaker 1>got d m X which one? It don't matter, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how's it going down? As soon as it I'm dodge

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<v Speaker 1>right with some type of uh manslaughter charges you know

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<v Speaker 1>how m or like or tupac on me as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as the beat go, you know for me California love Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an easy date on the fist fight. It don't

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<v Speaker 1>really take much. I whooped. Somebody asks right now with

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<v Speaker 1>a with Purple Rain plan. Yeah, that's that's that's the thing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's gonna that ain't no one fight and done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna stand to a couple of days. You start

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<v Speaker 1>playing that type of music right there. I mean, think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. If you get Molly wapped listen in the

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<v Speaker 1>Purple Rain, you ain't coming back you you already wanted

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<v Speaker 1>them sappers dudes. It reminds me of the last dance

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<v Speaker 1>where MJ was listening to Kenny Lattim over before. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't take much as you are in a different type

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<v Speaker 1>of assassin to you listen to Kenny Lattimer for a game. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you are you are straight up right there? Ye whoop

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<v Speaker 1>you up with encyclopedia. Yeah, Kenny g We'll hit you

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<v Speaker 1>with the encyclopedia exes too. I don't even know what's

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<v Speaker 1>in the X, but that's that's one of them. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Bro, you got it. I ain't. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>even trying too with you today. It's like, Brian, I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't even got time today. That was fun. You feel

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<v Speaker 1>I feel warmed up? Do you feel warmed up? I

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<v Speaker 1>love it? Man. That's that's probably like the dopest way

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<v Speaker 1>to enter into one of these things that I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say. You'll introductions better than anybody I've been with

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<v Speaker 1>and break all the tension, all the ice. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting any gotcha. I mean, look, it's an open book

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<v Speaker 1>test about yourself. If you failed, that's when you you

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<v Speaker 1>had the necessary instructions in front of It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get the first four hundred points on the S

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<v Speaker 1>A T which is your name. Look, you don't deserve

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<v Speaker 1>to be in college. Okay, exactly? All right? So this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is what we love doing. We we can

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<v Speaker 1>ask this a million ways and we get two million

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<v Speaker 1>different answers. So where are you from and the place

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<v Speaker 1>you call your hometown? Oh that's easy, man. From from

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<v Speaker 1>the Queen city from Charlotte. Grew up in Head and Valley,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right in between Trying and Sugar Creek, and

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<v Speaker 1>so home will always be the city. How did your

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<v Speaker 1>hometown Charlotte impact and shape your perspective on how you

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<v Speaker 1>see the world today. That's complex, just because I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>verying too, and so I grew up in like this

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<v Speaker 1>this weirdness of half of my I'm spent was around

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<v Speaker 1>Liberian cultures. The other half was spent in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Charlotte culture. And so I think this this view

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<v Speaker 1>of the world of just being like an immigrant in

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<v Speaker 1>the city, um, and having these two perspectives have have

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<v Speaker 1>allowed me, you know, to to be able to identify

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<v Speaker 1>with people from from everywhere. And also I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pride and around from and so I take

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<v Speaker 1>that pride with me everywhere, even though I live in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grounded by the things that I learned that Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 1>How did those two dynamics different than you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Liberian culture and then just growing up here in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>were they sometimes wanted the same that they sometimes but

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<v Speaker 1>heads now I think it's all love, like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>expressed differently, you know where um, I don't have no

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<v Speaker 1>natural born brothers for the people that I grew up with,

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<v Speaker 1>especially through sports, uh, from all around the city. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of a lot of love. And with

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<v Speaker 1>Liberia is very tribal um. And so it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>manifestation of love just in a different capacity. Uh. From food,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we did a lot of we call the

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<v Speaker 1>fish rise and different things like that, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>African foods would be equivalent to like a black cookout. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so just that aspect of you know, music, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had to pull from all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>because j Cole wasn't around, the baby wasn't around there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And so Charlotte kind of gave us like a a

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<v Speaker 1>mix on different aspects of things that we just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made into our own. And the Liberia obviously um

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more established culturally and so intertwining that has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of shaped me to people to put the person

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Now we have to take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>the morning anything, we gotta pay some bills. I love

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<v Speaker 1>on social media too. Smithie where where at that's at?

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to it on Instagram, what about Twitter at cut

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<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for,

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<v Speaker 1>a brother, cut to a podcast dot com. Just walk

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<v Speaker 1>us through that though. The tribal the the immigrant culture

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to deal with growing up in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a very vibrant immigrant culture already here in

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte that a lot of people not do not know exists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're from l A right, yes, sir, so just think

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<v Speaker 1>of like people from Long Beach got a different, different

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<v Speaker 1>pride about Long Reaching, people from Compton likewise, people from

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<v Speaker 1>like other aspects and so in Liberia and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these countries, um to have these tribal aspects, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the area that you're from is just really condensed with

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<v Speaker 1>you just do things differently. There's an overall arching um

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<v Speaker 1>support of the country at large. But then like the

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<v Speaker 1>type of purposing that you represent, that the values that

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<v Speaker 1>you represent the come with it. Each culture has different

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<v Speaker 1>things that are unique to themselves. And so actually, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was having a conversation with my dad about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're big on history, they're big on what what

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<v Speaker 1>they stand for. And we end up getting our DNA

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<v Speaker 1>test And so I called my dad before the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>test and he told me, like, the complete family lineage

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<v Speaker 1>from our people coming from Moley and Sullland to Liberia,

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<v Speaker 1>Avred cult surely on all of that stuff. And the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA report reported all of that. And so when he's

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<v Speaker 1>given me advice, so when I'm talking to my folks,

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<v Speaker 1>they're filtering it through what their ancestors told them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think and having that groundedness of the highest form

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself, you are expected just to do amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes people that don't have that connection

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<v Speaker 1>to where they're from, they're kind of influenced by things

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<v Speaker 1>that are lesser degree themselves, and so they get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in things that are are are pushed upon them versus

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<v Speaker 1>being able to identify with the highest form of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>if people represent, and so, um, those lessons has just

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<v Speaker 1>been pushed towards us. You know, how you're supposed to function,

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<v Speaker 1>how you're supposed to treat people, what you represent, what

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<v Speaker 1>your name means, UM, why you hear, um, what you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. All all of that is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean from the tribal aspects. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just I identified with being from Charlotte and the pride

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but it's it's like just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more um when it comes to how I want to

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<v Speaker 1>move around in life. You just broke that down and

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. So what based off the conversation you

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<v Speaker 1>had with your dad? Based off everything you just said?

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<v Speaker 1>What does your name mean? Man? So that's actually crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because he's doing this forced him to have a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive and um, just like understanding the actual name where

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<v Speaker 1>there's two versions. One he thinks it's like the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the garden and you know, like people live off

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<v Speaker 1>the land there, so that's an important title. So if

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<v Speaker 1>like you're the head, you know, leader of the garden,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're responsive for making sure that everybody eats, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is supported, everybody is nourished. Um, you know, your your

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<v Speaker 1>body is your temple. And so that's he can't confirm it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's like the last thing that he told me

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<v Speaker 1>that one of his you know cousins had heard from

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, but he's doing some diving in there. But

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<v Speaker 1>it comes with the title of being a leader. That

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<v Speaker 1>comes with the title of doing certain things. And so

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<v Speaker 1>back to that original like boss or employee. It is

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<v Speaker 1>almost like you're predisposed to be this thing because of

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility that your your family name has has carried

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<v Speaker 1>and by default We've always had those conversations mean him

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<v Speaker 1>my mom about being a leader and not being a follower.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm starting to understand more of the the

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<v Speaker 1>meaning behind that. From a name standpoint, I wonder how

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<v Speaker 1>the influence of having immigrant parents but also living in

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<v Speaker 1>an immigrant community here in Charlotte, but also you are

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<v Speaker 1>you are being raised and also influenced positively at home.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was, let's be honest, a little bit negatively

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<v Speaker 1>um out in public. I'm a dad, so I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's sometimes I cringe at what some of the stories

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<v Speaker 1>I hear that my kids are having conversations or or

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<v Speaker 1>or dealing with and having those questions when they come home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the areas that you know we were up in,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I'm home, I still drafted those areas in

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty years. They haven't changed. You know, you still

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 1>see the same um auto shop. You still see the

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<v Speaker 1>same fast food joints, the same check cash and play. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a light rail going through there, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not to benefit the people there, is for whenever they gentrified.

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<v Speaker 1>But back to the original question. My my family there

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<v Speaker 1>there from you know, my mom's from a very rural

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<v Speaker 1>part um Liberria. My dad's more from the city. But

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't really interact with a lot of um white people,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the idea of racism or feeling less than

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<v Speaker 1>anybody just didn't exist, like it was just a foreign concept.

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<v Speaker 1>This is before you know, we have instant news and

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<v Speaker 1>ability to get stuff on Google and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's I was taught there, and nobody higher

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<v Speaker 1>than you. There's nobody loyal. You treat people all with respect,

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<v Speaker 1>you treat people with dignity, but you don't lessen yourself

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<v Speaker 1>for nobody. And you know what talents and gifts you

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the world that Senate and all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It may shape differently, but you have certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>that you contribute at a high level. So never forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in moving around being influenced by things that

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<v Speaker 1>were last than that. They just didn't appeal to me

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew what my potential was and where I

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to go. And let's be honest, like, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>want to be in the streets, nobody want to be

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.360
<v Speaker 1>doing dumb stuff. It's just that sometimes that life get

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>ahold of you and it becomes your identity and you

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to shake it. And even when you

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>try to shake it, there's certain influences that pull you back.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's because you haven't really identified or tapped into

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing that you're supposed to be doing at the

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>highest levels. It's why when athletes come up out of

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that situation, they're so productive in the community because they

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 1>finally see like what their potential are. Or you see

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>entertainers that come up out of that situation. I just

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>think that we've been limited in our exposure to what

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>we can be because things that get pushed on us athletes, entertainments.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>But there's people that are gifted at a super high level.

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>They just haven't tapped into it because the environments that

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>they come from don to support that. But if you're

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>grounding themselves and that's been supporting you to express yourself,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and let your gifts shine in ways that's not reckless

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 1>or harmless to your environment. Then you you become what

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to become. But you gotta be rooted or something.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>You don't just figure this out by, you know, wandering

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>through life. We're all familiar with Hidden Valley. We're familiar

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.719
<v Speaker 1>with the places that you're from, since we're recording here

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte, so we know where you're from. But do

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you credit that your upbringing, what your parents are student

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you for not leading you down the wrong path as

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a kid When you're growing up in those environments, you

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know any better. So it's I think people sometimes

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>stereotype those environments as if like the whole thing is bad,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and there's there's so much good there and so I

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>take that with me as well. So there's a balance

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of hint, but there's also I mean there's good people

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like how I used to get to practice, you know

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that the neighborhood grandpa driving everybody around and spending time

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>with us and telling us different things to how to

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>carry yourself, how to take care of your yard, how

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to take care of little things, and so there's things

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that you grow up in that area, and you go

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to school with the people that that end up being

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, um that don't pan out the way that

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to be, and at some point they went

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>off track. I mean we played in the same you know,

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 1>school yards, we ate at the same lunch tables, but

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>something happened, And so you can tell that it's it's

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>not that people are just born that way. It's just

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.719
<v Speaker 1>sometimes the environment gives a hold of them. But it's

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>only a small percentage. It's only a small percentage anywhere

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>people that are being reckless. But I think as that

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>message is just gets pushed down that you're from here,

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>wherever it may be in the world, Compton or South

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Chicago or Liberty City or you know zone, whatever you're from,

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>people take that identity and it's the negative identity. But

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>just like there's the highest form of expression of being

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>from Liberia, there's a highest form of expression of being

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>from Component or from being from like the south side

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of the West side of Atlanta, from being hit in Valley,

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 1>from being from you know what's being gentrified now but

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Beties four, like all those areas have the highest form,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but they're so new that it people haven't had a

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>chance to see a whole generation cycle through. Like the

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>drug gang stuff didn't happen in the early eighties. I

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>think we would have been able to see that. But

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like a lost generation because there's a

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>people went to jail, people died, other stuff popped up.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And now I think we're starting to get back to that,

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to where a kid can see, oh, this is what

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Smitty looks like at however old you are. I don't

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>want to put on age on you, you know who,

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>rather one, So now I can see Smitty would have

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>beautiful wife, beautiful kids, have been able to have not

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>only the first thing that everybody wants to be, but

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to play at um, play at the highest level in

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.479
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, but also transition into a businessman. Like now

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I can see that, I can see the full cycle.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>We haven't been able to do that before, you know, um,

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>so now we're being able to see the full cycle.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I think people can see, Man, this is dumb. I'm

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>not about to be out here acting on reckless when

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I can do it this way. Or look at so

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and so over here they didn't even play sports, but

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>they went to school, and now I can see him

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>just because we have access to more information before we

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>were limited. What were your day dreams about older Mohammed massacre?

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, as crazy as my mom. We used to

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>drive through South Park and Quail Hollow and I didn't

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>get it at the time, but it was my mom.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>She was showing me what life outside of where we

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>grew up looked like. And I would always want but

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like what do these people do? Like who are there?

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And obviously you never get the answers to those questions

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>because you can't go knock on the door or whatever.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think that was the thing that created like

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a different spark, a different belief that I don't know

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do, but I want to function

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like this, not only in terms of monetary but just

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the quality of life doing something meaningful, to being able

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>to not do laborious jobs that you know you don't

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>get appreciated for. And so those early scenes that were

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>planning was something that I've always stuck stuck to me,

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that's to being able to see outside of the environment.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And so I didn't know because I didn't see it,

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>but I knew that even like how I approached education

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and what I thought about school once I got to

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>college and knew I was going to the league. It

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>was one of those things that, all right, even when

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>this game is over, I'm gonna make sure that I

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>can still function at the highest levels. When your mom

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 1>used to drive you around in South Park and you

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>wanted to knock on the door to see what's in there,

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Now I flip it. What about the next Mohammed massa

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>quad and he does get the opportunity to knock on

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>your door? One do you open it? And two when

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>if you open it and let them in, what do

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you what nugget do you give them? You know this

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>situation actually happened about it? So, bro, I'm back right now.

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>About a month and a half ago, young young boy

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>from the other side of the town. He was here

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and he was carrying like a box of stuff that

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>he was selling for his youth organization. You in Atlanta,

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in Charlotte, I'm in Atlanta. So he from the west

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>side and so he up here and it's crazy he

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:58.719
<v Speaker 1>came banging on the door. Yeah you got scared, nah Na,

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean you you gotta know how to talk

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to these kids. So, um, you just put yourself in

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the other If the shoes were I probably would have

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>done the same thing too, you know, maybe not as hard.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sitting there and you can just you could

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>just you can see it on the face. You can

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>see the pain in his face. You could tell that

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to do the right thing. And he

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I'm selling this. I don't even know

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>what he was selling. And he was like man, I

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 1>was like how much it costs? He was like five dollars,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and so I gave him a ton of money. Uh,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was through cash app. And so I'm sitting

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm looking at this kid is super hot

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta, and he's going around and I'm like, man,

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>tell me your story, and he like, this my story.

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm trying to do the right thing. I

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>just got out of the situation. It wasn't near my fault.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And you could just see like this kid could really

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be out here in the streets. But this kid going

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>door to door. And so I was like, man, here

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>on my number, I believe in you. You know you're

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be something more meaningful. Just trying to speak

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>life and to him and just show him that somebody

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>care and then his life, you know, it's worth something

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times when you you get wrapped

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 1>up into that and you're trying to do the right thing,

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, damn, these people see me out here

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>then this nice neighborhood. They can't even give me five dollars.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, realistically, you see a kid like that, give

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>me five hundred dollars, like you know, it don't fundamentally

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>change your life, but it will fundamentally change his life.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And just playing a seed that man, if I just

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>keep going, if I keep like figuring out, if I

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>keep connecting these dots, I can make something of myself

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and I may never see that kid again. He probably

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>won't call me, but hopefully, like you can just plant

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 1>those little seeds along the way because you just never know. Yeah. Um,

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember Eddie Jones, the basketball player he for the Lakers.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>He got he was here and then I think he

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>got shipped to the Lakers the vice versa. He was

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>in the school. He didn't even get a chance to

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>meet this dude. Just the fact that Eddie Jones was

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>in the school was like meaningful. And I remember when

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>carried cover he got drafted and he pulled up to

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>um to watch his practice. And I was like, damn,

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, like this is crazy. Is carried Cola you

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>know he out there, uh, coming from USC when y'all

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>used to come to games. Just like that little seed

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of belief, he creates the reference point. It's like, all right,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I can do it. These people are human, These people

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>got great hearts. These people are you know, just like

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>me in some capacity. And you start to see that

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like where we live now, where people were doctors, lawyers

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>and different things, they're normal people like they might have

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>had a different opportunities, but they're not more talented or

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>more whatever that society would like you to believe. And

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>so if you can just pass that on and help

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a person connect the dots just I mean, there's no

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>telling where the person come become. You don't really travel

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>too far. You get an opportunity to go to u

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>g A University of Georgia. Mm hmm. So Dogs and

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Georgia is one of the teams. They may be up

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and down different years, but they're they're one of those

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>teams in the SEC that are you know, they're top tier,

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you powerhouse. So you go from one powerhouse

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 1>at one another. At the entry level of high school right,

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and then now the next level at another powerhouse, how

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>do you keep a level head? And you start to

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>really just enjoy playing college football going to Division one

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>not a little not too far from home, but you

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously in a big city in Atlanta, in Georgia, Athens

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>where from hin Valley to to to Georgia. I think

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's the crime Della Crimb. Would you say, yeah,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it was a culture shock, bro. I remember we had

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>a golf tournament. This is, you know, before the summer

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>of my freshman year, and I showed up red Dickie shirts,

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>did Dickie shorts and a scheme shirt and like some

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>white Air Force ones with a red check. I was

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>playing south Side and so I pulled up in my

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>first time ever on the golf course and I'm like,

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm super fresh, and you're super not like we gotta

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 1>take this kid to go change. And so you start

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to get acclimated just in like how the outside world works,

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>because you're you know, when you play at this powerhouse,

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's not like you give money, or it's not

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>like you travel in the world or you and fancy

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>hotels or nothing like that. You still from the bus

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is gonna drop you right back off to your neighborhood

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>once you finished practice, and at the end of the game,

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't come right back there and watch the news

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>um to try to see some highlights. So you're you're, you're.

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>The quality of life hasn't changed in high school at all.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>But then you go to this powerhouse school where you

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 1>can eat everything, you have the nicest amenities, you have everything.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.919
<v Speaker 1>But mentally you're in that environment and so you either

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 1>have to make sure that you you keep the good

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>aspects of it, but then you refine some of the

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>things that need, you know, improvement. And I think sometimes

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>people don't. They don't know how to make that ship

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to where they just they just keep their whole self

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>versus growing and evolving. Not to say that you got

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to change as a person, but you know you have

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to adapt. Each time you learn something new, you should

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>bring that with you versus just being tied to the old.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's about that time. Just take a little breather. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>going from high school powerhouse and you go to u

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>G a college powerhouse. Mhm. Now you get drafted two

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine, you get drafted to a nonpowerhouse Cleveland Browns. Man,

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>take us through that down grade. I played with seven

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in four years, Okay, Derrek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Jake Delane,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Seneca cot Um, that Lewis. Uh did I name all

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of them? I think I think I did, But it's

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>there's another culture shot. And mentally, it was it was

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>stressful and it was I didn't I didn't understand what

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>mental health was at that time, but looking back on it,

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it was depressing. It was it was. It was just

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>hard because it was just so dysfunctional. And it was

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>not just nobody. I don't think anybody was like a

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 1>bad person or or I didn't know how to do

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>their job. It's just how everything came together awful. And

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>so as a young player, you know, I'm in year

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>one and after week four I'm the oldest receiver in

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the room, and you know, you don't even if you talented,

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't know nothing. You don't know how to be

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a pro. You don't know how to take care of

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>your body, really don't know how to watch films like that.

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't know like the savvy vet moves that that

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>people get a chance to learn um and so it

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>was a steep learning curve. And then we're switching quarterbacks

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in and out every week. It's just it's just chaotic.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And so that was like a really tough situation. And

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember the next year, you spent all this time

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in the offseason, you're working, and then I got the

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>big concussion, and that was another crazy year where we

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>played Tampa, come out and have a good game, Jake

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 1>has a high ankle sprain. Then Seneca has a high

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>ankle spring the week later, and then Coke gets thrown

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>into the fire, and then before I know it, I

0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>get the career changes that hit from James Harrison and

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>then you so you have like this this big dream

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of having like this crazy NFL career and then it

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't manifest in the way that you anticipate because

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just like everything is just like as crazy as

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 1>you can think of and so like, and looking back

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>at that, it was a great learning experience of a

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of things not to do from an organizational standpoint,

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:30.919
<v Speaker 1>but also and how much you need just you need

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>some type of structure and you need the pieces to

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>fit together in a way that the mental aspect doesn't

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 1>do more harm than good when it comes to performance.

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Especially you know when you got these high caliber athletes

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and they can physically perform at a certain standpoint, but

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>everything around them impacts their performance in an adverse way.

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>The change your career, Well what do you mean by

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you changed your career? And you're not to go not

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to go about the head or any of that stuff,

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but just the psychological aspect of it, because a lot

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>of people who may be listening may not know what

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. That hit changed how the NFL view concussions.

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>That's that was like the big weekend that everything started

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to change. And then the Concussion movie came out like

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a year a few years after that. Um, but if

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you look back at all, like the clinic tapes and

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>everything of like the the kit that that is the

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 1>hit and I even remember our bye week was so

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it took me three weeks to come back from that.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 1>We played the Saints the next week. I sat out

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that game and we had a bye week, and then

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the week after that we played and I remember walking

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>through the airport the second week we had on our

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>by and Hakim was like, bro, everything sports illustrated, and

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like nah. And as I'm walking through the

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>airport on the phone with him, I see like the

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 1>thing and I'm just getting blasted. And so when you

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>get a big hit like that, your body recovers differently.

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I ended up getting three more after that to the

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>next year and then a year after that. But when

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you start getting them like that, then you're like, man,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get hit. I don't want to

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>do this. I don't want to do that. Um, the

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>recovery times longer. You don't know if it's psychologically. You

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's impacting your performance. If you drop

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a ball, it's like them, you know there's there's something

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 1>wrong with my blak or my brain. If you're fatigued,

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 1>then you you know, have a misassignment. So it's it's

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this this mindset within everything else that's going on. And

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 1>so I actually go get I go up to UM

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>ironically University of Pittsburgh neurosurgeon Mickey Collins and this team,

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>they're one of the best in the world to get

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>my brain evaluated every other year, just so I can

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>make sure that cognitively everything is there. But once again,

0:44:56.280 --> 0:45:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember having a good rookie year crazy dysfunction,

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and so you come into it it was like, all right,

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I actually know how to be a pronoun I know

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>how to take care of my body, and in the

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.279
<v Speaker 1>first four weeks of the season are just crazy. And

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so then your play becomes more radic, and then you

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>have an ownership change, and then you have another coaching change,

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and then you have quarterback changed. You know, man, what

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the hell is this? This is crazy? Um so, so yeah,

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that that that experience was wild. You've mentioned this a

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>couple of times now, but what was your mental health

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>journey in the league and up until now you know

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>much crazy. So the other aspect of it is I

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>had a crazy accident in twenty seventeen UM and for

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>people don't know, I became an MPT. I had a

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>TV accident where I lost my left hand and a

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of the emotions that I had coming from that accident,

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I recognized for the second time, Um, I had him

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland, and I just didn't know what to do

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>with him then, because supposed to be tough. You're supposed

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to be macho. You're supposed to, uh, you're not supposed

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>to have emotions. You've got money, you you know, you're

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>doing what you love to do. You're in a position,

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>uh that you're very blessed, and so it almost seems

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 1>selfish to even be complaining about certain things mentally, And

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I know who to go to, who to share it with? Like,

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>who do you tell me? Tell you your folks, they're

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, you know where you're coming from. The

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you tail coaches, They're like, you're supposed to perform, tough,

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>en up. So I just didn't know, uh, But in

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>dealing with those same traumatic type of experiences, I was like,

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go get help for this. And so in

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>going to a counsel, they're going to have therapy and

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>still doing now to this day, not because something's wrong,

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>but just because mentally, you should treat your body the

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>same way that you do it physically. You go to

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the gym to work out, so why not make sure

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>your mind is working out in the same capacity. Uh,

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.439
<v Speaker 1>and so it's a lot better. It's a I don't

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>think like you're at the health has ever solved, because

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>everyday life is throwing different things that you whether it

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.720
<v Speaker 1>be COVID or whether it be you know, work stuff,

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it just be race relationships, whatever the case may be.

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>An ability to just stay in a great place mentally, um,

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>with the help of somebody to help us license to

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 1>get you there. I think it's just smart, the smart

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>thing to do so you can function at your highest

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>leveling through if you don't mind your life changing event.

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>April fourteen, two seventeen, I became an mput out just

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>actually just going out there to clear my mind, UM,

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 1>place that I felt really comfortable, just you know, forward

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it uh with some of my closest friends. And I

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta say now that there's like there's date, there's danger

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and comfort because in that place that I was so comfortable,

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>almost lost my life, you know, doing something that had

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of experience doing. Uh. And then so I

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that at the time of the accident that

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I've become an amputee. I just thought it was a

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 1>bad break. Sometimes you know, the thing that makes it

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>good athletes or sometimes you know, we're out of touch

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of reality. And so I thought that, oh man, I'll

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>just you know, rehab it. I have a cash. But

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I walked into the emergency room and the doctor was like, hey,

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Mr Mashico, gonna have to amputate your hand. And I'm

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like what he's speaking, you know, a foreign language to

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>me right now. And so ended up having twelve surgeries

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>to to try to save as much as possible and

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>got my thumb. But everything else is going. You know,

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there in the hospital and you go from

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>being able to do physically whatever you want to do

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>in life to to you know, just being stuck there

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:51.479
<v Speaker 1>in the area that I was at. I still don't

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I still don't even know, like the breakdown of white

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 1>people were in the rooms. But you start to hear

0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>cold blue. And when cold blue happens, I mean, somebody

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>just die. And so it gives you like this weird

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>perspective of you know, you just had a part of

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>your body that drew born with die, but there's people

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>in here that are really losing their life for real.

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.919
<v Speaker 1>So when you walk around the hall again, you see

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>a run and have family in it and life in

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it one day, and then it's prestinely clean, and it

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>just gives you this this idea that we can't be

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 1>out here just casually moving through life, because it can go.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>It can go really fast. And I would look at

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>my fingers when they put the whole thing back together

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:32.359
<v Speaker 1>after the first surgery, and you know, each couple of days,

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.959
<v Speaker 1>I would see a finger go from pink to black

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and they would have to amputate it, and I see

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>another thing to pink the black, and you know, you

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 1>do that a few times, and then they chopped the

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 1>whole thing off, and then getting skin graphs and you

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 1>have another procedures to go in and clean it and

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>doing all that stuff. You're like, man, this is like

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't never want to be in this situation again,

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>so I gotta be intentional about how I live. And

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>then you go through a pier where you're still in

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>shop really where you're trying to piece it all together

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>but it don't really make sense. And then I had

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a family friend tell me like, well, you gotta feel it.

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>You gotta feel a full way to this thing. And

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that's when you look down and you're like, Damn, I'm

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be empty for the rest of my life. Damn,

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Like what is life's supposed to look like? What am

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I supposed to do? Um? Am I gonna be able

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to hold my daughter? Am I gonna be able to

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 1>do this? I'm not gonna be able to do that?

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>You know how I can? I can't even catch the

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 1>ball with two hands. Really, I can't, you know, do this?

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Do that? Uh? And so when you come to that reality,

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>that's when like the mental battles start um in minds.

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>You you still when they cut you open, it's live

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>nerve endings, which feel like you're getting electrocuted. And so

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you've got the physical battle that you're trying to recover from,

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>but then you've got the mental battle that you're trying

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to recover from. And it could be overwhelming if you're

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 1>not getting the right help. And that's to the furthest extreme.

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But people got physical battles that they're dealing with, any

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>emotional and mental battles that they're dealing with that you

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>can't see until I started to think back. This is

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>when I start to think back in Cleveland, where I

0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, I've had these type of battles before, and

0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do anything about them, and I didn't get

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the results that I wanted. And so now I gotta

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>make sure I do something about them. I gotta make

0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:12.880
<v Speaker 1>sure that I'm going to get the right mental therapy.

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go make sure that I'm taking care of

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>my body physically when I'm putting in and I'm flushing

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 1>out all these toxins from surgery. Um, make sure that

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm working out to strengthen my body all over again.

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Make sure that mentally I'm engaged. I'm educating myself so

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>when I come out of this, I can do more stuff, um,

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, at a higher level, because I'm not dead,

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>so I gotta come out here and make life meaningful.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>And so like all these things just kind of evolved

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 1>over probably like a twelve month period through the recovery process,

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and so when I came out of it, I was

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. Like it was almost like a crash

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 1>course off season of recovery versus some of that stuff

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>lingering with me. Now, what you experience was very traumatic

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and in Cleveland, and you said you didn't handle it right,

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and I remember me having a tragic injury, not to

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>your or anything to yours. And I'm not trying to

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.720
<v Speaker 1>compare them, but I'm just keep keeping it as a reference,

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>all right. When I when I tore my achilles, I

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 1>ruptured it to the point where it was a double rupture.

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>So a double rupture is it tore in the middle,

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 1>but it also tore off the bone. And they didn't

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:30.800
<v Speaker 1>realize until they opened me up that the top was

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom and the bottom was at the top.

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, and find out I had toured it

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the off season, so I had fresh scar tissue.

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So I played pretty much like the first eight games

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>where a slightly torn achilles m But I also remember

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>psychologically there were moments where I literally just wanted to

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 1>just scream, like just get it out of my system.

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have the knowledge that I have now

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>of like how do you articulate yourself? How do you

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 1>vent your frustration in a healthy way where you have

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 1>that grab your face in the pillow and you just

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 1>let it go because you're you're carrying so much. Is

0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it almost is it? Is it almost like a grief process.

0:53:16.760 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not, it's before the grief process. So that comes

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 1>along the journey love. Yeah, that's why I'm asking them.

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So you're looking at your as they do the skin

0:53:26.719 --> 0:53:29.920
<v Speaker 1>grabs and and you said twelve surgery, so pretty much

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.799
<v Speaker 1>in the first three surgeries, they're they're trying to save

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 1>your your fingers and they go from pink to black,

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>meaning a dead nerve. That nerve no longer it's capable

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and useful. As you're going through that, you're you've already

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>stated you're mentally drained, you're physically beat up and mentally

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>canually go through that. You have to continue, and you're

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:57.879
<v Speaker 1>and you're holding on to your fingers like and I'm

0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not trying to be funny, but brother is losing the

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to dig in his nose or scratch his back

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and now you don't have that with My right shoulder

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>is constantly asked because I can't reach it right and

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:15.759
<v Speaker 1>before I even go there, and talking about your achilles,

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people when they come to me and

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>they're like, you know, I don't want to compare my

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 1>situation to yours because you'res as much worse. I can't

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:25.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you what you're trauma felt like, Yeah, I just

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>mean there are sometimes where you know you try to

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 1>relay stories, meaning I've said this, I've said this to

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>my kids a lot. And also the athletes says a

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>pulled handstring is just as bad as a torn achilles

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 1>because or torn a c l because the next or

0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the last injury is always the worst injury until you

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>have the next injury. I'm just trying to fix. I'm

0:54:51.400 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>walking through because I think you have the wherewithal because

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of the count, so that you have elected to receive

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and a counselor, and that I have elected to receive,

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 1>which is you have a grieving process, but you also

0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>got the process of the what what the heck? Right?

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Where am I? Like, I'm in a like a shock bro,

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm in a wheelchair in the in the nice scooter.

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I go from last week I was playing, I was

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:26.879
<v Speaker 1>I was bootle it on Dudes in Baltimore, And now

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking my my wife, anybody can you make me

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a sandwich? Like I can't? I got a scoop around,

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and I remember there were times where I was angry

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.879
<v Speaker 1>and I was piste off, like man, I could carry

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 1>my own stuff and I can't. And it's like I

0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 1>got it, and and that's what I'm saying. Where was

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that scream moment, that time that you can go on

0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the pilling you like, I can't take this anymore. I

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:57.239
<v Speaker 1>would walk around the neighborhood volunteers just like, just like

0:55:57.400 --> 0:56:00.279
<v Speaker 1>whatever came out came out because it's it's it's like

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>your body is like volcanic and east erupt. You need

0:56:03.680 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to need to be able to dump that stuff out

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 1>of you. You're holding onto a tension and you just

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.640
<v Speaker 1>need to be able to let it out. I remember

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 1>justin Houston, Um, you played for the Coats now like

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 1>bro six three to seventy, and he's looking at me like, man,

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? And I'm like, man, I'm good,

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of cocks his head to the south.

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 1>You're like, man, how are you really doing? I mean,

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just boo who crying on the man's shoulder. You know,

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 1>because you like people that have been through something, they

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>know when you when you you're baking it, they know

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:37.919
<v Speaker 1>what you gotta go through. And so if you don't

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>let it out, you go crazy, or you you can

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 1>escape it, probably with drugs or or with some type

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of like the other thing that gives your out of

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>body world experience with I'm not trying to be hooked

0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>on the drugs. I'm not trying to be you know,

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>not myself. I'm trying to get back to myself. And

0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>so I just kept having these moments where, you know,

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>my wife finding in the middle of the night, just

0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like crying in a pillow, Like you gotta get a

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 1>up out of you. And then once you get it

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>about of you, you gotta keep it about you with

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the right type of help. And it's it's you. Whatever

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.399
<v Speaker 1>situation you're going through, if it's serious to you, are serious, yeah,

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't care if it's a papercut. If

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you think that's crazy and you think that's like impacting,

0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you go get the right house helped for it. And

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to be empty to you, don't have

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to be Achilles. I tell like, whatever you're dealing with,

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna tell you. What you're dealing with not

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a big deal. It's a big deal to you. It's

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a big deal. But you you gotta you gotta let

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>people in and you and you gotta let it out.

0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>If people don't know how to help you. Some people

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>just assume that man that's Smithie like he's been he's

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>been to battle. Of course, you of Coution respond from

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the Achilles, and you, like I do, Am I gonna

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>respond from the Achilles? Like am I gonna be the

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:52.560
<v Speaker 1>same version of the mode? Once my rehab is all

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the way complete, you question what the next step with

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the next evolution of yourself is, Um. And as you

0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 1>get further on the journey, you have clarity. But that's

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:07.560
<v Speaker 1>a that's a battle. It's not know just easy you know,

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>point at the point B point Z type of journey.

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a lot of ups and downs in there. Well,

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate your time, We appreciate all your knowledge. We

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>aspreciate going down this journey of your life. And one

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I love and I wrote it down,

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a danger in comfort, right and and just you

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you're spending that time with us, Um, you're opening up

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the door living on the side of Atlanta that you

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>live on now. But you opened the door to two

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>young men were too, older men who are who are

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>selling selling things as well. And you have given us

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of knowledge and giving us your time, and man,

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:56.439
<v Speaker 1>we just really appreciate you. Um. It's fun to hear

0:58:56.520 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and see what the The Independent kid is doing in life.

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Now you're doing some cool things, man, So thank thank you.

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>If you don't you don't realize that you've just been,

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, and being able to see you come and

0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 1>what you represent, you don't even know, like the type

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of hope and the seeds that you planned and even now,

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>like it's crazy to think that the twelve year old

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 1>thirteen year old we like we'd have some type of

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>relationships in life and and so just like that, you've

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>been just a great human being. I just actually looked

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:35.560
<v Speaker 1>up and saw it like what time it was, and

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, damn, we've been We've been chopping it

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 1>up for for a minute. Um. But just like that

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>goes to like the respect that I have for both

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of y'all. You are a unique person. You are well

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 1>worth it, you are competent, and most of all, your lovable.

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.600
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