WEBVTT - Big Italian Sausage with Bianca Del Rio 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.600 Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea, Hello listeners. How are you today? 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:08.360 How is everybody today? I hope just wonderful? Yes I 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.280 do too. You know who's thriving at home? Who Berniece is? 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.640 She is? She just really every time one of my 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.000 dogs dies, the other dog is fucking happy. Now she 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.680 gets all the attention. And yeah, I realized how marginalized 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.639 she must have felt. I mean, she was always the 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.920 one who wanted to be spoiled the most, right I 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.720 think so, Yeah, because she looks now like she's now. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.159 She's flirty, like she comes in like care you up, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.360 let's hang, and it's really cute, and she doesn't seem 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.680 to be bothered by the fact that Bert isn't there 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:42.920 at all. Oh, and that happened also when my older 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.000 dog Tammy died and Chunk was left, he got a 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.040 pep in his step as soon as she was out 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.160 of the way. That is an interesting dynamic, like maybe 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.520 they were just waiting for the other one. Today they 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.840 clearly don't have the affinity for the other dogs is 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.480 the way that we want to believe that they do. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.160 You want to believe your children love each other, but 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.960 the reality is they don't. So we had a dog 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.560 who was a Great Pyrenees, and there were these huge dogs. 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.560 They're all white, and this dog sort of had the 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.120 personality of a cat, very like I'll come to you 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.039 sort of energy. And when our older dog died, she 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.640 who she had basically been raised by, she turned orange 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.680 and she got super depressed. She did also get more 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.280 like snuggly, wanted to be with you, wanted to hang out. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.360 She definitely became more of a people person. About two 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.080 dogs now they're in love, right, Well, that's actually an 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.240 interesting conversation because apparently we didn't know that you're not 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.480 technically supposed to get sibling puppies, and so there was 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:42.200 a little bit of an adjustment period where they were 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.320 like fighting all the time. And I know, honestly, like 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.880 I was so upset about it because they were fighting 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.600 like in this way, these tiny puppies and just like 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.160 fighting this way that was like really aggressive, nobody's drawn blood. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.680 But I was like, I don't know what we're gonna do, Brad. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.360 We might have to re home Lottie because she's like 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:05.280 going after Wendell. And then I found this perfect solution, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.040 which was basically training them out of it by using 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.960 a squirt bottle, and I did not think it would work, 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.440 and it fully works. It just snaps them out of 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.120 an argument and then we do a little training. Calm 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.640 is their new command after they like break up a 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.920 fight and they have to come and sit calmly. So 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.919 now they're starting to like when I stay calm, They're 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.760 just coming over and like breaking it up. So I'm 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.760 so relieved, honestly, and it's getting a lottery something that 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.560 I would not be equipped to deal. No, oh my gosh. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.880 I had no thought in my mind that it could 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.640 be a bad thing, and so careful out there. If 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.160 you're trying to get a puppy, don't get to you 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.080 know what. I just okay, Well, if you don't want 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.600 a puppy, you can buy a hyperbaric chamber. I just 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.400 got one of those installed into my house because I 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.480 came back from skiing and my knees are just so 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.640 messed up. So I got one, and then I was like, okay, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.720 and I'm going to get one of my lasers done. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.200 I'm going to get a CEO two laser on my 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.840 face and neck. And so I'm cited about this because 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.079 they're not as strong as ones you get for your 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.200 house as the ones where you go to like a clinic. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.320 I get it done, but you could sleep in it 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.120 if you want. Really, yeah, would you do that? I 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.480 doubt it. But I can go in there and read 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.200 for two hours a day, you know what I mean? Right, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.120 that's easy, Like I can last night. I did one 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.359 hour tonight, I'm gonna do two. You have to be 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.720 cumulative about Yeah, you can't just like start with four 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.480 hours or well no, I mean like you have to 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.240 be consistent and do it. Like if you do it 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.000 once in a while, it doesn't work, I don't think, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.440 does it? Deep puff, Like, what's the what's like you're 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.360 getting one hundred and fifty I'm at one atmospheric pressure, 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.960 which you know, me and my space degree. Who the 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.240 fuck knows what that means. But you're at like one 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.600 hundred and fifty percent oxygen, whereas we're at fifty percent 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.040 right now, Like we're getting fifty percent of oxygen. I 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.280 don't know what else we're getting rogen Maybe I don't 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.440 know another thing. I don't know carbon dioxide. I'm not 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.720 sure what's happening. Carbon monoxide probably a little bit of 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.160 that too. So yeah, it's supposed to be really good 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.880 for injuries, inflammation, reducing swelling, you know, all that stuff. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.320 So the house we bought has a pool and we 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.040 have not yet put a heater in it. I'm like, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.839 should I just become one of those people who does 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.040 cold plunges? I don't know. I don't know if I'm 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.400 brave enough for that, but I'm tempted. Have you ever 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.560 done one? I have. I just got one of those 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.360 things too, a cold plunge pool. Yeah. I haven't used 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.040 it yet though, I'm saving that for the new house 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.240 when it's ready. Yeah, I don't think I need both 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.919 of those things. I think I like cold, actually, but 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.640 I don't like it that cold. That's a little but 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.400 that's got to be really good for you. And that's 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.960 only three minutes. Like a hyperbaric chamber, you have to 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.800 be in for an hour, you know, two hours a day. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:30.800 Like that's a little to more time consuming, but a 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.280 good excuse to read and not be on my phone. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.719 Take some time in the hyperbaric chamber. Chelsea, I'm so 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.000 excited for our guest today. It's Bianca. Do you want 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.120 to tell us a little bit about her? Okay. Bianca 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.840 del Rio is the host of the pit Stop, which 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.960 is the official review show of RuPaul's Drag Race, and 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:53.360 her alter ego is Roy Heylock, and that's who's here today. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.800 Hello Roy, Hello high sweet cheeks. How are you? We're 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.920 happy to see you. Since drag It's such a hot 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.200 topic these last few months, drag shows are being banned. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.360 Was it the state of Mississippi or Tennessee? Tennessee, Okay, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.440 which is very confusing because what's Nashville going to do? Well? Also, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.599 like what's Dolly Parton gonna do? I mean, let's be 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.799 real here, drag It's a serious thing. Tennessee's all fucked 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.760 up that they're not as bad as Florida though, but 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.360 it is pretty insane that this is happening. Have they 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.520 been banned in Florida to drag shows? No, not yet, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.679 but it's on their way. You know. DeSantis is losing 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.839 his mind over there, so he's just been creeping out 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.520 on other topics, basically about the trans youth and dealing 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.640 with trans people in general, because apparently the orders that 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.400 they're making are just kind of vague. It's like blanket 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.479 situations where it's leading things to where they could kind 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.080 of decide what they think is right or wrong in 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.080 the moment. Yeah, yeah, which is kind of fucked. Yeah, 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.200 he's taking a lot of latitude because he's going after 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.960 everything that's going to make him like a political hero, right, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.440 like taking the power away from Disney World, which doesn't 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.920 sound actually that bad when you read about it, because 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.480 you're like, wait, why is Disney World have their own municipality? 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.280 Like what is that? But whatever? Forget about that when 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.480 we're talking about critical race theory, when we're talking about 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.960 LGBTQ and in books, and then now they're you know, 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.119 I was funny. I posted something the other day about 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.599 banning books in Florida and how you know, Floridians really 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.040 need to get their shit together, blah blah blah, and 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.479 I got all these responses from people who's saying, well, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.400 I mean there's pornographic material in these books, and I'm like, no, no, no, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.800 that's not what we're talking about. Solely. We're not talking 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.400 about porn. We're talking about exposure to LGBTQ people, and 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.880 we're talking about critical race theory, like porn is the 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.680 least of it. And I mean, there's a lot of 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.840 porn in the Bible. Let's be real these people that 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.040 clutch up to the Bible. I'm so done with the 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.440 religious aspect of it or the people that say my 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.480 moral compasses and is about this, and I live by 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.240 the Bible. You know what, Go clean the Catholic Church. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.280 Go fix that motherfucker's because this is your people, this 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.760 is your deal. You know, there's gaze in the church 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.719 walking around with a purse that's on fire, up and 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.679 down the aisle, wearing robes, telling stories. It's no different 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.039 than Children's Story Hour. But why don't you fix that 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.520 raping children? I mean, hello, why don't you give me 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.919 one priest and one person who dresses in drag and 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.800 see what their record is of assaulting little children? Yeah, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.760 I agree, I completely agree. It's just absolutely insane. It's 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.520 also this thing now where I think that they have 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.920 to find a way to, as you said, to become 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.840 the hero. So they're just picking on any group they 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.640 can possibly do this with, and it's just insane that 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.960 this is the topic now. It's like, look, I'm a 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.360 person who does drag obviously, and I don't believe in 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.480 children coming to my show. My show is always eighteen 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.960 twenty one up. That's my thing. So I'm not one 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.840 of the children's story our people, but I never neither am. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.880 I yeah, agreed, but it's that thing where I'm like, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.640 you know, this is not my thing. But I do 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.800 understand that if a parent feels that, hey, this is 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.680 what I want to do, bring my child or expose 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.800 them too, that they should have the right to do it. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.680 You know, it shouldn't be up to quote unquote legislation 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.480 or some guy with small dick energy. It all just 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.760 is so counterintuitive to the Republican Party's platform. You know, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.120 not to get too political here, but like you know, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.640 Republicans are historically known for getting decisions out of government. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.280 They hate big government, they hate it when it's talking 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.280 about taking people's rights away, and they're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.760 we want to handle this. So it's just so hypocritical, 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.960 all of it. I mean, obviously, the Republican Party has 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.880 lost their way a long time ago, so we can't 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.280 be expecting too much from them, especially with people like 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.560 Ronda Santas. It was funny I listened to this thing 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.240 on Ronda Santas yesterday, like the Genesis of Santas, and 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.000 I forgot remember you guys, when that commercial came out 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.920 before Trump was elected because everyone had to like cozy 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.240 up to Trump because he was looking like the possible candidate. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.600 But it was like in twenty eighteen, I think when 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:44.560 De Santis ran for Congress originally and he had to 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.640 put an ad together and his wife was like, he 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.240 plays with our kids and what they were playing was 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.840 building a wall, and then he's like, look, my kids 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.720 know how to But I remember spoofing that when I 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.400 was doing a TV show at the time, because we 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.920 were like, who's this idiot? And I was like, oh, fuck, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.200 that was Ron to Santa this We're in for it 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.280 because this guy is still around and that was only 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.240 like what five years ago, isn't it crazy? Yes, that 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.520 was him. Yep. Now he's just bootlicking. But now he's 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.640 on his own little platform here. And that's the scary 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.800 part about it. It's just to think that, I mean, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.960 Florida is its own little world at this point, you know, 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.360 and you sit back thinking, how is this fucking happening? 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.320 How is this happening in real time? How is this? 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.679 How is this our world? I don't get it? Yeah, uh, anyway, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.720 let's move on back to you instead of me just 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.439 going off about everybody. You know what I mean. I've 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.720 decided twenty twenty three is the year of conflict and confrontation. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.880 That makes total fucking sense. And listen. Also, I just 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.240 wanted to say happy belated birthday. I see you just 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.400 had a birthday and you were out on the slopes. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.880 I was pissing myself that. You know what, I gotta 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.359 tell you, it's pretty enjoyable, Like isn't it's it's exhilarating, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.080 Like you're not cold because you have so much adrenaline. Like, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.240 first of all, we're trying to be discreet because we're 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.040 trying not to have too many people seeing me because 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.120 they'll they'll fill me and then it's blown. Or we're 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.280 trying to hide from ski patrol. But this year, ski 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.600 patrol saw us and then came back and picked us 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.080 up and dragged us out of there because we're like, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.920 we need another half hour and they're like, all right, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.600 well this is going to close and we would have 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.280 to really like walk out, and so the guy came 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.000 back and tugged us out, which was really cute. So 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.440 that was great. So now they've given up. And that's 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.000 how I feel about pushing against authority. If you push 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:25.040 hard enough, eventually the doors just open and the flooding starts. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.000 And then they're just like, fuck it, it's happening, and 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.640 it's gonna happen. It's just sheer exhaustion. They just don't 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.280 want to bother anymore. They're like a half fuck it, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.200 let's just roll with it. Yeah. Like the first year 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.679 I made a ski video, this ski patrol found me 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.440 or they were looking for me actively, but they didn't 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.240 know I had already shot it two days earlier. They 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.040 thought I was doing it in real time. I'm like, no, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.000 that wasn't two days ago. Yeah, And then the next 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.040 year I got a warning from the mountain that I'm 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.800 not allowed to I'm not allowed to drink and smoke 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.400 pot on the mountain. And then the next year I 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.720 skied off the mountain. We did backcountry because I don't 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.719 want to deal with those fucking people. And then this 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.280 year they're just like, you know what, there they don't 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.120 they have, they have no fight left in them. Do 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.520 your thing. So that's how we always have to push 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.680 up everyone who's listening. You have to keep going. You 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.040 have to break the door down, you know, especially when 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.480 it's in the name of just joyousness and celebration and 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.000 fun and you're not hurting anybody, right, So and art 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.800 and arts. Don't forget art, yes, oh yeah, please don't 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.800 forget what an artist I am. So let's talk about 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.960 I think actually a good lesson started to make you 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.720 a teacher for a little bit. So I don't. Let's 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.200 talk about she and her and pronouns. And I think 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.199 it's always good to kind of refresh people who are 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.600 confused still about what everything means. When you're in drag, 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.560 you prefer to be referred to as a sheet or correct, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.679 you know what, I accept anything. I accept cunt and face. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.800 I mean, I'm I'm pretty cool with it because I'm 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.640 of a certain age. I too accept cunt face. It's true. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.600 It's true. I'm of a certain age where it's like, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.400 you know, I didn't think about those things, and I 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.839 guess being a drag queen for so many years, I 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.920 just answer to any of it. So me, I'm just whatever. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.400 As long as you get the right name on the check. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.280 I don't give a I'm old enough to even say 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.240 the check, because who gets a check anymore? But it's 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.760 that thing where for me it doesn't bother me at all, 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.320 So I mean I can be called anything. Okay, Well 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.360 that's great to know for me, for you, and then 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.480 when you're not a drag, you're you identify as a man, correct, Yeah, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.760 well on that one, it depends on who we talk too. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.280 I'm a little light in my loafers, but yeah, I 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.679 would assume yes, yes, that works for me. And are 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.080 you in a relationship? Oh currently, Yeah, shockingly. And I 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.320 say that very begrudgingly and carefully, because you know, when 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.720 you get to a certain age, Chelsea, you start thinking 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.800 you don't want to mention the fuck boys, because we've 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.640 all been there and we've all been like, oh, this 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:39.400 is the one, this is it. I'm not one of 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.640 those people that proclaim it on Facebook but or Instagram 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.560 or any of that madness, but you know, every now 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.079 and then they catch a picture of you and then 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.040 people think, yeah, this is it, and then you end 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.160 up sucking yourself. You know, you end up getting screwed over, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:51.679 and then you have to explain to the world in 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.200 some form of fashion, Hey this didn't work out. So 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.840 I've been low key with this one for about a year, 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.760 so it's been hard to keep a secret. You know, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.160 gaze can't keep a secret. But you've been no and 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.720 a year and getting like gay life is a really 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:08.320 long time. That's like seven years, right, yeah, not lesbian. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.680 The lesbians about twelve years, but this is about seven 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:12.920 years in the gay world. Yes, but well I feel 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.160 like lesbians have they stay together longer? No? Yeah, because 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.280 they're lazy. Yeah, it makes sense. You know, it's all 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.480 about Listen, I would be a lesbian because it's all 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.000 about comfort. Look at the costumes, look at the outfit, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.840 look at the choices of hair. Look at a cat. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.920 A cat can take care of themselves. Mother, think about 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.480 it though, It's like it's literally all about comfort. So 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.480 I would totally be a lesbian. A cat can take 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.960 care of themselves. It's a different world for a lesbian. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.040 I mean they've got it figured out. And is this 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.520 your first serious relationship or no? Oh hell no, I've 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.640 had I've had a couple. I mean I'm gonna I'm 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.079 forty seven, so I've been around the block and I've 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.760 had the good ones and the bad ones. But you know, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.360 it's you get to that point where you're like, all right, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.320 let's see if this is working, and slowly this has 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.000 been working shockingly And what do you think makes it 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.400 work for you? Well, giving up, giving up, Chelsea, that's it, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.880 just given up, like you said. No, it's more or less. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.000 It just kind of being with an adult. Does that 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.120 make sense. I don't even know if it's about age, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.880 but it's more about just being an adult. He's got 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.640 his own ship. He didn't give a fuck what I do. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.000 He doesn't care about drag. He's not interested in it, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.800 which is a lovely thing, you know, didn't even ask 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.920 questions about it, which makes it so much more entertaining, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.040 you know, because I can go do my thing, he 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.840 can go do his, and then we meet in the middle. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.040 And how much of your life does drag take up? 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.000 Far too much? I mean, it's your profession, really right, Yeah, yeah, 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.640 but you know it's kind of like you got to 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.880 create your own world. So for me, it's usually when 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.360 I'm out on the road. I just finished a tour 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.440 where I was out for at thirteen months and so 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.200 we did a one hundred and twenty nine shows in 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.720 twenty seven countries and ninety nine cities. So that's the schedule, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.880 you know, And that's not just going out, but it's 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.080 like going out with drag. You know, you got your 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.960 meet and greets before the show, you got to get 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.560 in the drag, you got to pack the drag, you 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.400 got to go to the other countries and stuff. So 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.800 it's a lot there, and it's not so much like, oh, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.680 my life is difficult. It just means, you know, when 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.560 you're in the monkey suit, you're ready to entertain. When 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.240 you're out of the monkey suit, you're like, get the 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.840 funk away from me. I need to sleep, I need 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.240 a drink, I need to be you know, I don't 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.040 want to be bothered. So I guess that's the packaging 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.760 for it. You know, you start to realize it's a 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.760 lot physically and mentally. Then you go, how fucking lucky 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.600 to get to travel the world and do what I do. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.640 You know, yeah, it expends I'm sure it expends a 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.480 lot of energy. There must be days where you just 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.640 do not feel like getting it up right, like getting 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.440 your outfit together and doing the whole hair and makeup right. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.360 I mean, I know as a woman that I don't 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.120 want to do that. I'm most stayed. No, no, it's true, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:27.760 and it is kind of exhausted. But then in the 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.160 end you realize. You know, if I don't wear the 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.480 wig of the makeup, I gotta have the packaging to 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.000 make it theatrical. How long does it take you to 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.120 get in drag? I'm curious. I could get ready at 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.880 about an hour, you know if I have Oh okay, 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.800 if I yeah, I'm not one of those. If you've 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.200 seen me, I don't blend. So it's not like I'm 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.240 sitting back doing this whole you know, luxurious moment thing. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.640 It's not that fancy for me. But literally, if everything 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.160 is in a room, I could do it within an hour. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.600 And what about the culture of your profession. I would 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.280 assume it could be pretty catty, but that's just okay, okay, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.240 but I mean the cattiness of it though, that's Those 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.160 are the people that are friends. You know. Everybody that's 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.000 a count is my friend. You know, we got a 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.960 part of it right, giving each other shit in an 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.280 exaggerated way because you're on top of it. You are 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.320 drag queens who kind of do that for a living 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.840 without a doubt, and I think I have. I'm always 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.880 suspicious of drag queens that don't drink and they don't 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.600 have a fucking sense of humor, I go, how can 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.840 you not have any of those? And so for me, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.680 you know, when I started out, I was working in 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.480 gay bars, and you would do gay bars or cabaret spaces. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.080 That's the only place you could find a drag queen. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.080 But now you walk outside, they're fucking hanging from the 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.320 trees everywhere you go. It's some stupid bitch with a 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.120 wig on saying drag saved my life. No, no, that's 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.040 not how I look at it. For me, it's a job, 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.160 it's what I do, and it's not necessarily my identity. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.120 But when I'm in it, let's go have fucking fun, 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:39.880 you know, let's let's make the best of it, take 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.200 the piss out of each other. Basically, yeah, that's fun. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.760 Where are you based out of currently, I'm in Palm 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.280 Springs because it was cheaper than having plastic surgery. You know, 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.600 you just come out here where the old people are, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.880 and immediately you look better. So I've been out here 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.000 now for about since a pandemic for about three years. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.040 Oh really, I was going to guess that you were 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.120 in Miami just by your decor behind you. Oh no, no, no, no, 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:02.080 it's Palm Springs. Everything's white, even my neighbors, because I 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.679 am the brownest thing in this neighborhood that doesn't have 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:10.800 a lawn more. But that's a whole other story. Okay, Well, Catherine, Yes, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:15.160 we're gonna take calls for people. You're gonna expend great advice, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.920 as I can suspect you're very good at giving. Sure, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.680 and we're gonna help people along with their problems. Today. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.240 We're gonna help people with problems, and we curate. We 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.920 curate the episodes to our guests. Yes, so we have 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.080 questions that I think you'll be able to relate to. Yes, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.520 Katherine thinks. Yeah. Catherine produces all our episodes. Every time 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.359 I come here. It's a surprise, exactly. Well, I'm gonna 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.240