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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: UF Podcast, Episode number one sixty six, and finally we

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Speaker 2: get to talk about pictures and catchers arriving. Spring training

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Speaker 2: is here and we are ready to go. I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited that baseball is back. I'm sure James is so

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Speaker 2: excited that baseball's back.

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Speaker 1: Before we do.

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Speaker 2: Get going into it, you guys know what you need

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Speaker 2: a rating, drop us a review. James, your birthday yesterday

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Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day, so I saw you. I don't need

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Speaker 2: to say happy birthday again, but happy birthday from the listeners.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure as well. How you feeling not good?

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Speaker 3: I only you feel like it either. We had we

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Speaker 3: had little too much fun on my birthday, but it

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Speaker 3: was still it was still a wonderful celebration. Nonetheless, and

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Speaker 3: the best part about my birthday. Every single years, i'd

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Speaker 3: always coincides with pictures and catchers reporting to Port Saint

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Speaker 3: Lucie for the and all the other camps in general.

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Speaker 3: We only care about the Mets though, and it's a

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Speaker 3: beautiful time of year. I'm sure you guys just listened

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Speaker 3: Friday or Saturday. If n I should go back and

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Speaker 3: talk about how positive spring training is for everybody, and

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I do feel good at best spring training,

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Speaker 3: Like everything's the best case scenario, everything's the best way

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Speaker 4: Everything's clean, fresh, new. It's an exciting time.

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Speaker 1: No, it's super exciting. And we're starting to see the

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Speaker 2: Obviously the pitchers and catchers have reported, but we're seeing

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Speaker 1: It felt like spring. It felt like spring is close.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for games to start.

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Speaker 4: Games are about two weeks away now at this point.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, spring training I think starts the games like

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Speaker 1: That's braves.

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Speaker 4: That sucks. Those are bad rules.

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Speaker 3: Like at least this is like we're keeping the game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane. That's insane.

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Speaker 3: So the Mets do not play the Marlins between the

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Speaker 3: then the Phillies won too, right, yes, me, the Mets

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was getting it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's also a little bit of a nice thing

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Speaker 4: Bit of good too, though for sure. But it's fun.

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Speaker 3: It's fun to play these teams last year, like it

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Speaker 4: Yes, season going great, but it was it was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Like you can just feel a different energy, different atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I do actually think from like a performance standpoint, it's

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Speaker 1: They are just simply better teams.

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Speaker 2: And if we can play more again of those Tigers

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Speaker 2: That's that's a good thing, I think for the Mets record,

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Speaker 4: Was like the franchise.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the best games of the year.

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Speaker 3: And last year, how quickly the Mets played the Phillies.

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Speaker 4: I mean getting mad about it.

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Speaker 4: So I doing the same.

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Speaker 3: From managerial perspective, that adds a new set of challenges,

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I feel like this then leads into

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Speaker 1: It was just more of a conversation piece.

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Speaker 2: But MLB is going to expand at some point, probably

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Speaker 1: You saw it, right, James.

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Speaker 3: It was last week. We were we were in content

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Speaker 2: So if you guys haven't seen it, Essentially, in his

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Speaker 3: Yes, if there's like nine teams in all of Major

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Speaker 4: That was just what probably.

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Speaker 1: I got two for you.

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Speaker 2: I got every other division, by the way, and whatever

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Speaker 1: You'd love to be there ready.

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Speaker 2: Then you have the mid Atlantic, who is the nationals

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Speaker 4: And also what we're talking about, this isn't real.

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Speaker 3: to come together, put your differences aside, and then you

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Speaker 3: guys would send your own representative there. That is what

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Speaker 3: I would want to happen for this new divisional re alignment.

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Speaker 3: I want one team from the East, one team from

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Speaker 3: the Midwest, one team from the West, and one team

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Speaker 3: from the West coast. I want my division to be

447
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Speaker 3: the Mets, Mets, Reds, Rockies A's I think in my division.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the most perfect division that we could

449
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Speaker 3: create in Major League Baseball. We're pulling it from Adrian Grease,

450
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Speaker 3: and we pull a lot of our governmental stuff from

451
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Speaker 3: Asian Grease there lost Mark guys back there.

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Speaker 4: I do think that if we were to do that,

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Speaker 4: I would like the people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to go to Rob Manford directly

455
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Speaker 3: and start proposing these divisions. I think another fair one

456
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Speaker 3: would probably be like something like Yankees, Braves, Astros Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: I think makes sense. Right, that's a good division. That's

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Speaker 3: a yeah, that one sounds fair. I have no problems

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Speaker 3: with that division. Yeah, and then maybe something like Phillies, Cardinals, Mariners.

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Speaker 4: Who's another good team.

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Speaker 1: The blue Jay's in there, sure, yeah, Blue Jays.

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Speaker 3: I think those are three divisions that we can start

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Speaker 3: o with and we could go from there. But that's

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Speaker 3: I think the launching point for the future of midjor

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Speaker 3: league baseball divisions and realignment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited because it feels like expansion is coming soon,

468
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Speaker 2: especially with all that Nashville stuff that's going on with

469
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Speaker 2: you know, making their team essentially and getting ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Baseball, I don't feel like in this

472
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Speaker 2: needs expansion right now, Like I think the competition's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: But in the same regard, it's gonna happen at some point.

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Speaker 2: There's too much money to not expand and make more

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Speaker 2: markets and make more teams. There's also a huge, huge

476
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Speaker 2: gap of Major League Baseball representation in the southeast of

477
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Speaker 2: the country, where the majority of Major League Baseball players

478
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Speaker 2: come from, which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one team there and it's basically just

480
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Speaker 3: just the Braves, and there's also so many great baseball

481
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Speaker 3: cities down there that could have a team. Charlotte was

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Speaker 3: one of the proposed teams. National is one of the

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Speaker 3: proposed teams. I know Vancouver's city has also been trying

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Speaker 3: to get something. Vancouver hasn't had a professional sports franchise,

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Speaker 3: and like almost thirty the years now since the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 4: Left, it'd be cool. Think it'd be very cool to

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Speaker 4: expand in general.

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Speaker 3: I think it'd be it'd be fun to the game

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Speaker 3: to get some new cities and new fans. It'd be

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Speaker 3: fun for us to travel to see some new stadiums,

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Speaker 3: stuff like that. But when they relign these divisions and

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Speaker 3: they make us only play the Yankees, the Phillies, and

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Speaker 3: the Red Sox, I'm gonna throw a hissy fit.

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Speaker 1: I hope not. I hope not.

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Speaker 2: Again, this is all hypothetical. None of this is necessarily true.

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Speaker 2: It's Jim Boden just making content. But we shall see.

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Speaker 2: We have not talked to you guys on to Twitter

498
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Speaker 2: in a while, so I asked you guys for some

499
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Speaker 2: viewer questions because there's baseball that I'd be talked about.

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Speaker 2: There hasn't necessarily been any news per se, which I

501
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Speaker 2: think is also a good thing in Mets world that

502
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Speaker 2: there hasn't been any news right now. But we want

503
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Speaker 2: to hear what you guys are wondering about. Maybe we

504
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Speaker 2: can give you some insight on some questions. John's getting

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Speaker 2: mad because James forgot to mention Vancouver as has a

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Speaker 2: team in the Canucks because of course hockey, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean hockey canadam makes sense, Like that's a wash. I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about American supports here.

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Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and take a look at some

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Speaker 1: of these questions.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the first one, which comes from

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Speaker 2: a dedicated viewer. That would be Bella, who is a

513
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Speaker 2: dedicated viewer. How would you guys split up the bullpen

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Speaker 2: into different classes including the depth pieces that we have

515
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Speaker 2: because we always talk about eighteen B team, C team,

516
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Speaker 2: whatever it is that there seems to be like a

517
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Speaker 2: bit of a hierarchy in the bullpen for the Mets.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna divert this one to you, James, since

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Speaker 2: you're the pitching whisperer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, think about this now. It's almost like Edwin just

521
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Speaker 4: kind of is like he is the A team.

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Speaker 3: I guess the other guys who are going to be

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Speaker 3: in that A team are probably I mean, I'll view

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Speaker 3: and Robertson are like the suppose that set up men

525
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Speaker 3: right now than Brooks. Raley is the top lefties, So

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Speaker 3: I think that becomes something of the A team and

527
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Speaker 3: then the B team is. But this is the crazy

528
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Speaker 3: thing about the Mets bullpen right now, and one of

529
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Speaker 3: the cool things we're gonna be able to watch during

530
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Speaker 3: spring training said, this B team hasn't really came to

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Speaker 3: come into shape at all, and there's so many different

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Speaker 3: guys who can kind of be on that second second

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Speaker 3: tier of the Mets bullpen. Like Drew Smith is a

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Speaker 3: guy who I think is certainly going to be in

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Speaker 3: the mix there and kind of be gonna be like

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Speaker 3: basically like the captain of the B team, kind of

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Speaker 3: like kind of like my athletic career, Like that's gonna be,

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be the way he is, and then we're

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Speaker 3: gonna just see. Like John Curtis is a guy who really,

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Speaker 3: to me lines up like someone who that is a role.

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Speaker 3: It's like kind of tailor made for him. He hasn't

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Speaker 3: pitched like a year and a half now, but when

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Speaker 3: he was good he was a guy who could very

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Speaker 3: much like be a high like not a high level

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Speaker 3: of good medium leverage reliever and get out when you can. Also,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at roster resource right now, Drew Smith and

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Speaker 3: John Curtis the same age that shocking to me, and

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Speaker 3: Drew Smith's kid, Drew Chanin's gonna be thirty.

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Speaker 4: Years old this year.

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Speaker 3: Drew changes thirty, it's twenty nine. Still, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: rush it for him. But yet, is that nuts?

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Speaker 1: Man? I feel old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And then otherwise the guys are gonna be in

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Speaker 3: that bullpen like we're going to see the Rule five

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Speaker 3: pick from the Yankees ch Green Break camp because per

556
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Speaker 3: Rule five rules, he has to be in the Major

557
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Speaker 3: leagurosses this year or we're gonna lose him. So if

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Speaker 3: he is good enough, he will be in that beat team.

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Speaker 3: And then I think there's going to be a combination

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Speaker 3: of Jeff Brigham my boy, where if he is healthy

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Speaker 3: and he gets the velocity back, he's a guy who

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Speaker 3: I think could very very very much be on this

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Speaker 3: beat team, even possibly guy who contend for the A

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Speaker 3: team if the if the slider in the fastball working

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Speaker 3: off each other. Still last ye're throwing sixty percent sliders

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Speaker 3: and if the oed litle nervous shue we talked about

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Speaker 3: in the byset last time was nervous shoot just a

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Speaker 3: byseet is shoit whatever lost a couple of ticks in

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Speaker 3: the fastball. If those ticks come back, he's a monster.

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Speaker 3: And then we're gonna kind of have the C team

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Speaker 3: developed between a lot of these guys who we like

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Speaker 3: talking about, who have this crazy potential, who we don't

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Speaker 3: know what's going on yet, Bryce Montesteoka, Sam Kunrod, Stephen

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Speaker 3: Rithing's your boy. And then we're gonna we're still gonna

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Speaker 3: have Steven Nagostik and Eeliez or Hernandez and this bullpen.

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Speaker 3: Those guys I think are gonna be more of swingman

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Speaker 3: type to give a couple more innings and blow out

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Speaker 3: to one way or another. So there's so many different

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Speaker 3: ways this bullpen can go, and it's gonna be really

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe for me, it's gonna be really exciting

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Speaker 3: to see how it plays out. Because also we're still

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Speaker 3: gonna have some combination of David Peterson Tyler McGill in

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Speaker 3: roles that we don't really know yet. And I I

584
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Speaker 3: assume that just because pitchers are going to get hurt,

585
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Speaker 3: like your six and seventh pitchers are going to throw

586
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Speaker 3: clean one hundred hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 4: It happens to every team in baseball.

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Speaker 3: That's why when you gotta go through these teams, you

589
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Speaker 3: look at who'sod and who's bad. One of the main

590
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Speaker 3: reasons last year, I knew the Blue Jays were frauds.

591
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Speaker 3: Like you just don't have a six seventh pitcher, you're

592
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Speaker 3: not good is something that Padres actually remedied this week

593
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Speaker 3: or yesterday with the Michael Waka signing. So how the

594
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Speaker 3: Mets you deployed those guys early, especially with Coodei Sanga

595
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Speaker 3: having injury issues last year and like coming into an

596
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Speaker 3: entirely basically new league last year's pitching the six maritations

597
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Speaker 3: a year five for Lander and Schurzer and want to

598
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Speaker 3: keep them healthy the whole time. Carrasco and Quintana have

599
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Speaker 3: both been steady recently, but they're nope, not spring chickens

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Speaker 3: at thirty four, and they've got about to be thirty

601
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Speaker 3: six years old. So it's gonna be interesting to see

602
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Speaker 3: how the Mets end up deploying McGill and Peterson, how

603
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Speaker 3: many things they get a week, how often they're with

604
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Speaker 3: the major league club, and how many times they're starting

605
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Speaker 3: games opposed to coming in midway through.

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Speaker 2: It feels very much like, at least in my head,

607
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Speaker 2: that David Peterson might initially get that Trevor Williams role,

608
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Speaker 2: which we saw last year is extremely extremely valuable to

609
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Speaker 2: this team. I mean a lot of games because of

610
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Speaker 2: Trevor Williams, even if the box score necessarily wasn't great

611
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Speaker 2: from his side, Like just a lot of really valuable

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Speaker 2: innings can come out of those long guys mcgil. I

613
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Speaker 2: could also see a world where, like you know, they

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Speaker 2: use him in the same scenario, he gets back in

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Speaker 2: the rotation.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: It's nice that there is this big depth and we're

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Speaker 2: starting to like wonder who could fill in these spots,

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Speaker 2: not because we don't know who it is, but rather

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Speaker 2: because we have so many options, which I think is cool.

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Speaker 3: I have two Trevor Williams questions for you. I think

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Speaker 3: both be fun to answer. First question, what team is

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Speaker 3: Trevor Williams on right now?

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Speaker 1: Washington Nationals? Come on?

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Speaker 3: Oh good, yeah, that was a cool Fore you how

626
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Speaker 3: many innings do you think he threw last year, how

627
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Speaker 3: many innings in Trevor Ooh, I'm gonna go with like

628
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Speaker 3: seventy eight, ninety ninety Okay, I mean that ninety really

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Speaker 3: valuable innings. Ninety ninety innings with three two Eraight, that's

630
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Speaker 3: a guy who sat see that role.

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Speaker 4: Even last year.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't even have called him the six starter. We've

633
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Speaker 3: called him like the seventh or eighth starter kind of,

634
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Speaker 3: or the swingman. And the Mets again this year between

635
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Speaker 3: Peterson McGill, Eliezer Hernandez and Joey Fuego, mister Luke's Yeah,

636
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Speaker 3: clip's going up today, Like that's gonna be filled in

637
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Speaker 3: pretty unique ways, like.

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Speaker 4: This cool that we have this depth. This is incredible.

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Speaker 3: First very This's gonna be the third season we've done

640
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Speaker 3: this podcast, and we've always been like we got as

641
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Speaker 3: many pictures as we can, and they did it.

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Speaker 4: We did it. I'm excited to watch a play out.

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Speaker 1: He's got goosebumps right now.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch these pictures throw I guess

645
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Speaker 2: down to Florida so we can see some bullpens.

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Speaker 3: Got pictures in the glove pop. But yeah, so Jo

647
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Speaker 3: Bell for the question. It's gonna be very cool. To

648
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Speaker 3: see how this bullpen develops. But that I think is

649
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Speaker 3: probably the first estimation of who the AT and B

650
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Speaker 3: team C team is going to be with the wildcards

651
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Speaker 3: of these swing starters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this one comes from Pat's stats. Is his expectations

653
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Speaker 2: for Mark Viento's. I feel like he's getting overlooked. And

654
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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think there's an overlooking of Mark Vento's.

655
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Speaker 2: I think there's just a lot of players that are

656
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Speaker 2: all kind of in that same position of where he's

657
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Speaker 2: at right now, when he's younger and he has options,

658
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Speaker 2: so they can be a little bit more cautious or

659
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: passive or not as aggressive. But Mark Viento's we know

660
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 2: has huge power. We saw him take some VP last

661
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: year and we're like, whoa our Fiano's can hit the ball.

662
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: Pretty far to right.

663
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Feel like he's got some crazy pop, And I feel

664
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: like he's still kind of figuring out what position he's

665
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: gonna be playing, whether that's gonna be like learn a

666
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: little bit of first base, learn a little more third base,

667
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: learn some of the outfield. It's a good it's I

668
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: don't want to say it's a good spot to be

669
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: necessarily where he's at. But it's almost like he can

670
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: just focus on getting better and eventually the time and

671
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: playing time and all that's gonna come.

672
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think Vianto's, of all three of these guys,

673
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: probably could still benefit from the most seasoning at Triple

674
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: A because last year, as productive as he was at

675
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: Triple A, and he was very productive, he was thirty

676
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 3: percent better than league average. He had twenty four home

677
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 3: runs and one hundred games down there, he was still

678
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: striking out almost thirty percent of the time, which when

679
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: you're striking out that off in Triple A, that probably

680
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: means you're going to strike out a little bit more

681
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: in the midjor leagues. And then when you get to

682
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: the thirty percent strikeout rate range, that becomes a little

683
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: scary where you can kind of teether and then things

684
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: start to strug'ing, not.

685
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: Pulling the ball and played off and it goes bad.

686
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: But the other thing that makes me think Viento's probably

687
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: could benefit from another few months down there is that

688
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: he was just still hitting many, many more ground balls

689
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 3: than you would want a power hit to hit. He

690
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: had forty eight percent ground balls last years one hundred

691
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: games in Triple A, and to have forty eight percent

692
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: ground balls and also hit twenty four home runs in

693
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: one hundred games. That's pretty unbelievable. So whever he did

694
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: connect the way he connected, it went out. And I

695
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: just wish we had more data about these minor leaguers

696
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: to know about how he did against breaking balls, how

697
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: he did against.

698
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: Fastballs of different velocities, because.

699
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: I feel like it's a big missing piece in the

700
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: way that we understand and like as fans analyze prospects.

701
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see, like where where these

702
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: ground balls are coming from, and then where the swinging

703
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: miss is coming from, identify those and then get him

704
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: to the major leagues.

705
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: When we know he's ready to crush.

706
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Like you said, the seasoning,

707
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: let him marinate a little bit, let me figure it out.

708
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: And again there's no need to rush with anything right

709
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: now with what the team looks like. So we'll see

710
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: Mark Vento's in queeds. I'm sure at some point this year,

711
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: without a doubt. This one comes from Baseball Sam sixty nine.

712
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: What do you think this or what do you think

713
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: is the biggest hurdle the Mets will face this season? Rotation, bullpen,

714
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: offense or even just expectations affecting them with regards to

715
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: the big payroll.

716
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I kind of like that one.

717
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: We didn yell about this last night two in the morning.

718
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: Either, No, we definitely did not have this exact conversation.

719
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: No, we definitely didn't do that. But I mean, I

720
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: think we probably have different opinions on this. But I

721
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: think it's a combination of still just being able to

722
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: hit hit drive and runs consistently lacking that kind of

723
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: like that second or I guess they're technically really defined

724
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: power hither and then also I guess a big part

725
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: is going to be expectations. This team of one hundred

726
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: games last year and got bounced in the wild card

727
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: round of the playoffs, Like there is pressure, and you

728
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: hear the way the guys are talking about their expectations

729
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: for this season right now. Pete today had the quote

730
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: where like, hope everybody's ready to watch because we're ready

731
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: to do something very special. That's a lot to put

732
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: on the team shoulders as early in camp, like everyone

733
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: I am.

734
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 4: I like the confidence.

735
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: I like the fact that we're like, yeah, we're here,

736
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna win, We're ready and projections.

737
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: Love the Mets.

738
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: I like the Mets rosters awesome, but there is that

739
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: kind of feeling where it's like, what it went, adversity strikes,

740
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen?

741
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's fair.

742
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the biggest hurdle I think will

743
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: just be the expectations, like like that was said at

744
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: the end of the question, Like you just mentioned one

745
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: hundred winding team. There was a lot of expectations last

746
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: year based on they played, and it obviously didn't end well,

747
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: and coming into the season, I think the expectations are

748
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: they should be a team that should be competing to

749
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: win a World Series, if not winning it. So I

750
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: think that's that you're playing with a little bit of

751
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 2: a target on your back. You got a little bit

752
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: of you know, pressure, whether it's you feel it or not.

753
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: I think that's something that everybody on the team knows

754
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: that they're they're expected to be very good and if

755
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: they're not playing well, people are gonna be upset. Like

756
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: that's just kind of what happens when you're a good team.

757
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: And this is the most competitive vision in baseball, Like

758
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: if you had to every single team baseball now, the

759
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: National League East has three of the worst eight best

760
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: teams in the entire sport.

761
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and that's in the top. That's in the

762
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: top obviously, like top to bottom, probably not the strong

763
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: most competitive division, but at the top, I don't think

764
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: you could find three teams.

765
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: As competitive as the Mets, Braves, and Phillies right now.

766
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: No, I don't even think.

767
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the American League East could make

768
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: an argument, but I do think that the the Yankees

769
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: are a team in that tier one hundred percent. But

770
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: I think the Phillies, the Rays, and the Blue Jays

771
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: are certainly a step behind all three of the teams

772
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: in National League EEST and I don't think it's even

773
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: a question. So I do think that is going to

774
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: be another unique challenge for this team, just because we're

775
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: good again, we could be playing incredible baseball, but we

776
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: could this division could legitimately, especially now with the schedule

777
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: being even out we're playing each other less, there could

778
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: be three teams vision win ninety five games.

779
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I mean that we won

780
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: one hundred gas last year.

781
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: And to win the division, it's really it's really really

782
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: hard to win the division when there's three teams that

783
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: actually care and are actively trying to win, which most

784
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: divisions don't.

785
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: Have, yeah spending money. So it's a unique thing that

786
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: happens in the National Geese that doesn't have in most

787
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: other places.

788
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: Next question here comes from Shane. Shane says, what role

789
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: is Narvaia's going to play when Alvarez eventually comes up?

790
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: And I feel like the question the English wasn't necessarily

791
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: the greatest in this one, so I had to rephrase

792
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: a little bit here, but I feel like the role

793
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: that Narvaia is going to play with Alvarez more so

794
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: like Alvarez, they clearly want to see that he can

795
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: catch more. I feel like that's been the narrative all offseason.

796
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: He's been working, there's no doubt about it, but they

797
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: want to see him prove it a little bit more.

798
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: And a guy like Narvaia's is a little more season

799
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: Like we've talked about, He's good defensively similar to Tomas Ndo.

800
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: He gives us that lefty bat too, So I actually.

801
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: Don't think Alvarez's playing time has anything to do necessarily

802
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: with Omar and Nervaz, just because that left handed bat

803
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: brings something completely different that most teams don't have, which

804
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: is a left handed hitting catcher.

805
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: I think that we're.

806
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: Gonna see Narvaias and Thomas Needo seem more similar. And

807
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 3: I think most Met fans realize, like, I don't think

808
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: Omar Nevia is gonna bring that much power.

809
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be timely hitting.

810
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: As he can play good defense, he's gonna be Both

811
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: of these catchers are here to kind of keep everything

812
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: in line. Like these the Mets have more of like

813
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: an old school catching brigade right now, where these guys

814
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: are probably gonna split time nearly fifty to fifty, maybe

815
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: maybe sixty forty one way, whoever's is high, whoever's having

816
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: a good week, depending on matchups.

817
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: But and I think that it's gonna be another situation

818
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: that when we.

819
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: Talked about last year a lot where like whereas Avarez

820
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: gonna find space, which mccamn's a big contract in Tomas

821
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: neither being like the guys I'm gonna end up being

822
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: away where I think if Alvarez does force his way

823
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: into a role, it's going to be more like a

824
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: DH emergency catcher. And we talked about this a few

825
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: weeks ago, where I don't think it's really going to

826
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: change these guys roles very much at all. Instead of

827
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: being a fifty fifty split, they'll probably wind up being

828
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 3: like a forty five to forty five to ten with

829
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: Alvarez taking a lot of DH reps. So I do

830
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: think that we as fans shouldn't really be trying to

831
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: look ahead too much right now in terms of how

832
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: this roster could look if certain things happened, Like if

833
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: Alvares forced his way in, that's a great thing because

834
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: now we just potentially got an elite, elite DH option.

835
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: We're building up a player who's one of the best

836
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: prospects in baseball. But if he doesn't, I don't really

837
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: think it's that big of a deal. Again, to just

838
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: like play it out, triple A play every single day,

839
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: try to hit more breaking pitches, try to hit more

840
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: pitches to have velocity, really figure out like your pitch

841
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: selection a little bitus Avarez still as graz as he

842
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: was last year. He was striking out a lot, get

843
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: better behind the plate, get more consistent, learn just like

844
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: just just take it slow, like there's really no rush.

845
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: Like he is so young.

846
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: Still and he's so advanced for his age and He's

847
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: come on so fast, and he is one of the

848
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: best prospects in baseball, one of the best prospects that

849
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: Mets have had at their disposal and incredibly long time.

850
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: Like I can't even like even the prospects come up

851
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: the last couple.

852
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: Of years, even like Pete.

853
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: Pete was incredible from the jump, he didn't have like

854
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: the prospect magnitude of Francisco Alvarez. This is something that

855
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: we just take it slowly, be patient, enjoy it when

856
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: it happens. But I don't think we should be really

857
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: trying to rush into the Francisco Alvares star them.

858
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: Onegree one hundred percent agree. He's what twenty one, He's

859
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: just turning twenty one probably this year. I'm like that

860
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: twenty two soon maybe super super super young, and especially

861
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: at the catcher position too, incredibly incredibly young. There's not

862
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: a lot of young catchers that come up and just

863
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: have this kind of rise like he has.

864
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: We've seen these catcher prospects kind of have weird, non

865
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: linear developments a lot across baseball. I remember the guy

866
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: who's still trying to find his footing in the league,

867
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Louis camp Pussando had like a similar rise to Alvarez.

868
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to compare them so much as prospects

869
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: because the Campussanda was much more of a contact oriented

870
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: guy and they had very different builds. But it's taken

871
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: him a couple of years to really put footing down.

872
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: Everyone remembers Francisco Mihia. He was a super catcher prospect.

873
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: He still is not the guy who plays every day,

874
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: and his ceiling, of course is significally lower. Now we've

875
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: seen that just based on the results. But it's this

876
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: isn't a position you can really rush development because there's

877
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: so much you have to learn. There's so much you

878
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: have to do. Again, if he forces his way and

879
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: just kind of become mostly dh that's incredible. We just

880
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: we just got like a monster hitter hitting hitting tanks

881
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: the five six pot in the lineup every single night.

882
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: But if that's not something that he's completely forced a hand,

883
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: there's no shame in just you know, running it out,

884
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: getting getting better.

885
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: One percent agree with you. Last question here will take

886
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 2: Oh you got some of this out here?

887
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: Also, the last thing I was gonna say about this,

888
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: Francis squadvers has can play the combined one hundred and

889
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: twelve games between double and triple A.

890
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: Yes, that's it, very that's it. That's nothing. Get out there,

891
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: keep getting better.

892
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Last question here comes from Jack.

893
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: He says, who is one under the radar player who

894
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: is poised to have a surprise season. I'm assuming we're

895
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: gonna talk about the Mets, so I feel like I

896
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: have a guess. Yeah, I have a feeling. Who your

897
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: guys gonna be.

898
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: Jeff Brigham, Jeff Brigham, bring bring him, bring them home,

899
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: bring them young. He's I don't know, I just I

900
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: see the stuff.

901
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 3: If that's slither works and that fastball gets to tick back,

902
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: I think he can literally be one of one of

903
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: the better relievers in the entire league. I'm not even

904
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: missing my words there. Like, he can be an uppretchelon reliever,

905
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: he could be a high leverage guy. Absolutely changes like

906
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: the flow of this team, and I'm I'm excited to

907
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: see if he's healthy enough to do that.

908
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: But who's your guy.

909
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: Under the radar? Like, is it okay to say David

910
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Peterson is under the radar?

911
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: I think in the nation he's under the radar. He's

912
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: not even in the projected rotation right now. He is

913
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: a guy if he steps up and he continues development

914
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: that we saw like parts of the last two years, he.

915
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: Could be a dominating pitcher.

916
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: Dominating He had year two in July where he was

917
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: like thirty percent, came out as walk great, one of

918
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: the best pitchers in the whole league. Like this something

919
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: that could really legitimately happen.

920
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you stole the words are out of my mouth.

921
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: I just I remember how good he looked and like that.

922
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: It seemed like something clicked at some point and you're like,

923
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, I think David Peterson has figured it out.

924
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: He's throwing hard. That slider is absolutely discussing it's one

925
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: of the best sliders in baseball, which is a crazy

926
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: sentence to say, because nobody would talk about it outside

927
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: of Mets fans probably and the people who were really

928
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: deep in the pitching, you know stats. But I really

929
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: do think that David Peterson could be like we had

930
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: this video, what do we do this video last year

931
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: before he came on with the Mets about like who

932
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: an X factor player would be. We were saying, Lord McGill,

933
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: I think I think David Peterson could be like this

934
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: guy that just makes an insanely big impact for the team,

935
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: and not because of like necessity necessarily just he might

936
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: just take it because his stuff has been that good

937
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 2: and he's had those stretches of just being a really,

938
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: really solid pitcher and can never have too much pitching,

939
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: especially a left handed pitcher, which would be nice.

940
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: I think.

941
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: I think there's an outside chance that what Yankee fans

942
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: saw last year with Clark Schmidt is kind of a

943
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 3: little bit. It's a little bit of different stages of development,

944
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: But that could be a way that the Mets kind

945
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 3: of creatively use Peterson where he could come in again.

946
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: This is something that we struggled with last year. I

947
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: don't know if this is gonna happen, so I thin they

948
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: just want him to start in general, but not that

949
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: this will change his role, but just come in the

950
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: sixth inning and finishing game and just look dominating doing it.

951
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: That happened to the Mets against Clark Smidt one game

952
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: last year where his guy just came in out of

953
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: the bullpen just throwing Bebi's. And like, David Peterson has

954
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: that in him, Like he can be a legitimate shutdown

955
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: pitcher in any role they put him in. He's a

956
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: guy who projects. Well, he's the guy was good stuff.

957
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: He keeps getting better. Former first round pick massive dude,

958
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: Like there's there's there's very high ceiling.

959
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: Vid Peterson.

960
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: I think he is someone who is a little bit

961
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: more under the railar right now because he's not technically

962
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: in the five man rotation.

963
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I that would be my pick. We're of

964
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: course going pitching on this podcast.

965
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Why not.

966
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, all the Mets hitters too,

967
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: Like everybody has their expectations already for what they're gonna do.

968
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: I feel like the pitchings where you can really find

969
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: those gems right now, and the Mets.

970
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: Roster itself, like the starting the starting nine and the

971
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 3: starting five and rotation are so old, Like these guys

972
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 3: are just not under the raidar, Like we got go

973
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: be like there' they're veathering their experience. We know they're

974
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: like proven come out of these besides Coodasanga, but there's

975
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: no way he's under the radar based on what's been

976
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 3: going on. But like the Mets don't have a hitre

977
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: in the lineup than twenty nine years old.

978
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: John is down in Port Saint Lucy is the field

979
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: reporter for the Mets the podcast. Now, how's how's it

980
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: looking down there? I mean, it's nice and sunny in

981
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: your hotel room, it seems.

982
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Uh, it's five fifty three pm right now,

983
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: so hopefully the sun stays up another forty five minutes

984
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 6: or so.

985
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll go hit the pool for a little bit.

986
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: But no, it's great. Uh this week. You know, I

987
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: spoke to you guys last week.

988
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 6: Hopefully my WiFi is working, by the way, a little

989
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: spotty tonight, but hopefully it comes through. Last week was

990
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 6: a bit of a ghost town really in comparison to

991
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: what we've seen this week. You know, the media is

992
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 6: here today, fans are on the complex, which was awesome.

993
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 6: A lot of buzz, a lot of excitement, pitchers taking PFPS,

994
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 6: coaches all over the place.

995
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 5: Buck leading drills, which is great.

996
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's so fascinating to see how hands

997
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 6: on he is, you know, explaining each situation, getting so

998
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 6: into the nitty gritty of okay, we got runners in

999
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 6: this in this situation, there's this many out, it's this

1000
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 6: particular runner really neat to see. So just a lot

1001
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: of obviously optimism. I mean, I think that's probably the

1002
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 6: case with all thirty clubs right now around the big leagues.

1003
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, things have really gotten going today.

1004
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 6: The first official reporte for pitchers and catchers position players

1005
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,959
Speaker 6: on the eighteenth, So good times here, And yes, Grant

1006
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: Heartwig is my pick. I've spoken to a number of

1007
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 6: people on the minor league side, and you know, I

1008
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 6: asked those questions, Hey, who are some guys that you

1009
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 6: think can legitimately help this team this season? And I've

1010
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 6: heard Grand heart Wig over and over and over, and

1011
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 6: Grand Hartwig was a guy who wasn't even really scouted.

1012
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: I think he was actually found while the Mets front office,

1013
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 6: some scouts were going to see somebody else and they

1014
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 6: were in the Midwest, and obviously Grand Heartwig pitched for

1015
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 6: Miami of Ohio and.

1016
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 5: They saw this guy.

1017
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 6: Obviously he's and he's lights out and he lights out.

1018
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 5: But you know what, Uh, serendipity is great sometimes.

1019
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 6: So yeah, Grand Heartwig not a not a huge household

1020
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 6: name right now on the raider of Mets fans, but

1021
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 6: definitely another another one of these many many like you

1022
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: guys were talking about options in the bullpen that can

1023
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 6: help win games ultimately in Queens this season.

1024
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: Very good John And that's and that's John down the field.

1025
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: Yes, John's a John's little spring trading report for us.

1026
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know there's anything else. You got

1027
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: anything cool to tell us? Or that's that's pretty much it.

1028
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 6: Sure, Luis gior May's dad got to spend some time

1029
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 6: with mister gior May.

1030
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: Shout out Luis Senior. He ran the Uh.

1031
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: He ran the five k, which they hold the day

1032
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 6: before spring training.

1033
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1034
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 5: And he did. He did really well.

1035
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 6: And it was so cool to see Louise and Louis

1036
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 6: Senior embrace the finish line. It was just a really

1037
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 6: really neat experience, you know, just it was a genuine thing,

1038
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 6: genuine emotions. Over two hundred people turned out. I'm not

1039
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 6: going to mention how I did. I don't want to,

1040
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 6: you know, but yeah, it was. It was really awesome

1041
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 6: to see and you know, Louise, nah, I don't don't

1042
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 6: want to break It's funny. So there's a guy that

1043
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 6: works down here for the Saint Lucie Mets and I

1044
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 6: didn't realize where I where I finished in the race.

1045
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 6: And I've seen him around two or three times since

1046
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 6: the race, and he'll just be mid sentence and stop

1047
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 6: and be like, that's the guy that beat me and

1048
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 6: I just you know, he's making me feel bad honestly,

1049
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 6: but you know, just messed around and had a good finish,

1050
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 6: so it was what it was. But ye know, mister

1051
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: Gillorme has been running for a while now.

1052
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 5: He races regularly.

1053
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 6: It's clear where Louis has gotten his you know, personality

1054
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: and all that from. So really cool to see me

1055
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 6: gior made down there participating with the fans.

1056
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: That's a perfect place for us to end this episode

1057
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: of the mets Up Podcast.

1058
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening. Thank you for watching.

1059
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: Whatever you're doing, make sure you're following us on all

1060
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: our social media at mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok.

1061
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: James, what do you got.

1062
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: Before we close out?

1063
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: We got two shout outs two people and met in

1064
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: person a couple listeners to the show. First off, Vin

1065
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 3: met you to card show in New Jersey. Vinnie and

1066
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: Is told me that he's actually a Yankee fan, but

1067
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: he listens to this podcast because he loves the content

1068
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: so much and.

1069
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: In this way we deliver based on information.

1070
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: And after that also Darwin Medhem at Ashmoco I don't

1071
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: know if I'm housing that right.

1072
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: Ak Shmoco in Greenpoint. Parents took me there for my birthday.

1073
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 3: Wonderful mirror, wonderful place, and excited to see Darwin and

1074
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: city Field this year.

1075
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: Shout out to Darwin and Vinnie. Thank you for listening

1076
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: to the podcast. Thank you to you guys.

1077
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: Like I said, follow us on mets up everywhere. If

1078
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: you're listening to.

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1081
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Speaker 2: for watching, listening, and we'll catch you on the next episode.

1082
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: Peace Out.