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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 2: We are part of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Nolman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Joining me on the show is my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: Michael Padre, my BFF professional Better Simon Hunter l O Soimon.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Chad, how are you doing, brother dude?

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Speaker 1: We got a great show. I'm I'm super excited about

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Speaker 1: this show because the NBA. You know, I am like

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Speaker 1: hardcore NBA hoopet and like to me, I have always

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Speaker 1: loved the drama of the NBA, the high school drama

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Speaker 1: of the NBA, as much as I love the game itself.

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Speaker 1: The Draft is this week, free agency is on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: The NBA has built a brilliant machine where we go

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Speaker 1: on finals to draft to free agency. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this guest we have today has experienced the peak of

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Speaker 1: every one of the events that is coming up, especially

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Speaker 1: free agency, in the most dramatic ways. I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say Simon he has had some of the

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Speaker 1: coolest free agency moments that have leaked into the public eye.

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Speaker 1: He started as a high school state champion in Florida,

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Speaker 1: became the first Florida Gator. Think about that, the first

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Speaker 1: Florida Gator to win SEC Player of the Year in

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Speaker 1: college and it wasn't a guy who was on those

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Speaker 1: back to back title teams for Billy Donovan enjoyed a

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Speaker 1: nine year NBA career for the Rockets, Maps, Grizzlies, Hawks,

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Speaker 1: currently a co host of Run It Back, the NBA

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Speaker 1: Show on FanDuel TV.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Chandler Parsons.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys having me. How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Listen, we'll record. This is a pre record, so I

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Speaker 1: want to give people heads up. Before we got on

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Speaker 1: the show, we talked about the fact that Jerry West

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Speaker 1: had and you're I think at the FanDuel studios and

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Speaker 1: Shams was there, and you had mentioned how he had

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Speaker 1: just tweeted this and then you're talking to him. So

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Speaker 1: of course I asked you, like, you have run in

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Speaker 1: NBA circles for going on fifteen years. Now, give me

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Speaker 1: the Jerry West story that you just shared with Simon

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Speaker 1: and I before we came on the air.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So it it's crazy. He's such a legend, he's

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Speaker 3: such an icon in our game, in our industry, and

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Speaker 3: so it just doesn't feel right. I literally saw, you know,

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Speaker 3: Jerry and his family. They were in Palm Springs like

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Speaker 3: a month ago, two months ago, and I'm playing in

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Speaker 3: this golf tournament and we're all sitting there shooting the

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Speaker 3: ship in the Mitton's lounge, and you know, he walks in.

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Speaker 3: He's got this G four hat on it just says logo,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, wow, that's awesome. I'm like, that's fucking

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Speaker 3: sick hat. And I kind of make a comment I'm

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Speaker 3: and say hi to him. He's always been great. Jerry's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys that you know, whether you play

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Speaker 3: on one of his teams or you don't, he's always

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Speaker 3: locker rooms and he's hilarious. Man. He would curse and

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Speaker 3: swear as like no, he mastered it. And so I've

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Speaker 3: always had a great relationship with him. And I see

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Speaker 3: him the next day walking, you know, through the clubhouse

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Speaker 3: and just kind of looks at me and he takes

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Speaker 3: like my last memory of the the West Legend is,

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Speaker 3: you know, I still I'm gonna wear it tomorrow on

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Speaker 3: the show. I have this G four just sick white

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Speaker 1: What I've always loved about NBA players as much as

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Speaker 1: I think more than actually NFL players, Major League Baseball players.

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Speaker 1: NBA players are massive, massive basketball NBA fans. There is

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Speaker 1: a sort of an honor for the history and the players.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I see that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's also because NBA players are just much

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Speaker 1: more engaged in social media at the highest level. So

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Speaker 1: you see how they're reacting to excellent play throughout the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: throughout the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel bad?

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Speaker 1: Did you get that sense when you were playing and

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, one hundred percent. And now it's crazy because

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Speaker 3: you see all the comparisons. I think I think now

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Speaker 3: silly argument. It's silly. You could go back and forth

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Ortlanta, Florida. Dude, I was obsessed.

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Speaker 3: then I love those Celtics teams kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: And fast forward twenty eleven, I get drafted and the

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Speaker 3: me is Kevin McHale So like shit like that where

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Speaker 3: it's just kind of full circle, you know, had to

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Speaker 3: me to the NBA, which I dreamed of since I

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Speaker 3: was a kid watching this dude. So things like that.

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Speaker 3: I've always been such a huge NBA buff. I know,

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Speaker 3: I still obviously I work now in the industry, but

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Speaker 3: I watch every single game. It could be the Pistons, Hornets,

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Speaker 3: I watch old games too from back in the day.

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Speaker 3: So I've always just been such a basketball junkie, and

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Speaker 3: so I have a lot of respect for the players

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Speaker 3: for these next up and coming wave of superstars that

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Speaker 3: are changing the game before our eyes.

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Speaker 1: NBA free agency. It has become a massive moment for

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Speaker 2: The drama, the.

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Speaker 1: Gossip, the speculation, top free agents. Right now, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give you a list you can add Tyrese, Maxi,

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Speaker 1: Where you think these players land and tell me are

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Speaker 1: we missing a key player who can make a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Similar Well, it's interesting everyone wants to talk about the

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Speaker 3: Lebron thinks because of what's at stake, and the Lakers

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Speaker 3: so that whole aspect of it and all the Hurley

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Speaker 3: Spice here and with Bronny coming is what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Is there a deal in place everyone likes to have,

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Speaker 3: you know, their opinion on that. But the names you

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Speaker 3: I think Indiana's going to resign Siakam. I think Philly

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Speaker 3: So it's always interesting. There's always going to be some surprises,

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Speaker 3: how valuable his versatility is. Rebounding is all everything he

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Speaker 3: So it's it's always fun, it's always exciting. But I

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Speaker 4: So I'm a I'll be up top. I'm a Philly fan.

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Speaker 4: Maxi and Paul George for him, like he gets just

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Speaker 4: as a person. It just never worked right, whatever that was,

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Speaker 4: he just did not mesh with Embiid's playing style in

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Speaker 4: get you review. Do the Sixers even have a chance

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Speaker 4: of Paul George is just another team, another year of

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Speaker 4: them having a ton of money left over and they're

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Speaker 4: just gonna spend it all. Kind of fillers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think they did that third. Still, I think,

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Speaker 3: like you said, Tobias has run its course. I think

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Speaker 3: it just didn't pan out how it kind of ended

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Speaker 3: with the crowd booing him and him just doesn't. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like there's any way in hell he's going

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Speaker 3: a big off the dribble, he does kind of, he

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Speaker 3: can play multiple positions. I just think for what they need,

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Speaker 3: I think Paul George, yeah, I think there's a shot.

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Speaker 3: I think they could offer him a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: I think you're seeing the success with the Nuggets and

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Speaker 3: think that's gonna start being the format for success in

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Speaker 3: my actual, my actual deal, my max deal in a

430
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Speaker 3: nightclub in downtown Orlando. It was It was epic.

431
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Speaker 1: That kind of sets up a celebration perfectly. So what

432
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Speaker 1: happens next, Well.

433
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 3: I mean I obviously knew that we had agreed to

434
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Speaker 3: terms and stuff, so he literally I remember we had

435
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 3: a night and I think he either flew the next

436
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: morning or flew right out of there. And that's kind

437
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 3: of when free agency starts. Then. I hadn't even been

438
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: to Dallas yet, I haven't done any of that stuff

439
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: yet so I mean, the next day, I want to

440
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,719
Speaker 3: play into Dallas and I'm meeting everybody, and I'm you know,

441
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: there was a period there where I had to wait

442
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 3: to see if Houston was going to match, which was

443
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 3: nuts too because this all could have been for nothing.

444
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: And imagine me going back to Houston after sign a

445
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 3: contract with the rival owner in a nightclub. But it

446
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,680
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447
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840
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448
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,240
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449
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,320
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450
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451
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452
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480
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: Cuban signing at the club, and it's like, I think

481
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: a year or two later, you and Cuban are recruiting

482
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan to come to the MAVs and join your team.

483
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: Explain that process because it has become one of the

484
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Speaker 1: most famous free agency recruitment stories that has happened in

485
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486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was a nuts time. And I

487
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier Dan Fagan was my agent. He had also

488
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: wrapped DeAndre Jordan. So I lived in LA in the summer,

489
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: so we'd kind of work out together. We'd spend quite

490
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: a you know, quite some time together just getting to

491
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: know one another. I had known him before again through

492
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: like mutual people. But uh, I'm in Dallas and and

493
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: and we're pretty good. And we got me, and we

494
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: got Dirk, we got Monte Ellis. There's time there. We

495
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: had to kind of shuffle point guards with Jamiir Nelson

496
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 3: and d Will and Rondo for so we had the

497
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: pieces in the corps going forward. And Tyson Chandler was

498
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: great for us, and uh, we wanted DeAndre Jordan. He

499
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: was he was a big time target for us. We

500
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: thought his time had ran out and in LA and

501
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: he wanted a bigger role and he fit perfect what

502
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: we were doing. Running gun. Rick Carlos offense, a lot

503
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: of pick and rolls, a lot of lobbs, and he

504
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: was the king of you know, lobb City. So I

505
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: just to start recruiting him, normal relationship, nothing extra, just

506
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: this is basically like he's my boyd I mean, I want,

507
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: I really want to play with him. I know it's

508
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 3: going to be great for his career. I know it's

509
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: gonna be great for my career. So I start doing that,

510
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 3: and I man, we spent every day together that summer

511
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: leading up to it. We started hanging out and like

512
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: I said, Cuban's very involved as well, so he's kind

513
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: of hanging out with us. We're going out where and

514
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: I just remember we get the commitment from him and

515
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: we're stoked, and we went to Shellbacks in Manhattan Beach.

516
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: We're just we're getting hammered. Like it's such a good

517
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: I remember Blake Griffin, who was on the Clippers with

518
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan, came with us to like the celebration of

519
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: like just like DJ leave it, like you know what

520
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: I mean, Like we're all friends. So it was done deal.

521
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: And I remember I get on a plane, I go

522
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: to Vegas and this is where, uh, you know, I

523
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: tweet an airplane emoji. And this is when the viral

524
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: whole emoji wore because at that time you start seeing

525
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: these reports DeAndre Jordan's having cold feet, and I'm like,

526
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: I remember my boys are sending it to me, and

527
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, dude, like I was was just with them,

528
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 3: like I just left, like no shot. We're looking at

529
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: houses together in Dallas, like I'm putting them with it,

530
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: you know, the realtors, and it's a done deal. He

531
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: looked in Cuban like you're not gonna slide to an

532
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: owner of a team, especially Mark Cuban. And then so

533
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Dan Fagan and Dan Fagan's not hearing

534
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: from DeAndre and so now I'm like, oh, this is weird.

535
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: Like that's when I first kind of my stomach drop

536
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: because I'm like, okay, now he's not talking to me,

537
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: He's not talking to his agent. And that's kind of

538
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: when the whole social media thing just blew up. Where

539
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: you know, Blake is locking him in the in the

540
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: in the house with the chair, and Mark was in Houston.

541
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 3: Mark and flew or it was Houston or La I

542
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: forget exactly where it was. But Mark was like at

543
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: his house, but DeAndre wouldn't answer his phone, and no

544
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: one around answer his phone, so literally, and I was

545
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 3: I think I was in Vegas at the time, so

546
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: it was all just chaos and I just can't believe

547
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna happen. It was, this was a slam dunk.

548
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: This is no way it's not gonna happen. And sure enough,

549
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean I think he got cold feed and I

550
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: think the Clippers, which again, at the time, I was

551
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 3: so shitty, I was so salty. I was mad as

552
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: fuck at like I was like, come on, are you

553
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 3: kidding me? This was going to put us over the edge.

554
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 3: We were going to be the best team in the

555
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: NBA and the next year. And it worked out. It

556
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: worked out for him. He was he had a great career.

557
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: I think he was, you know, defensive Player of the

558
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: Year all NBA that that year, and he worked out.

559
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: But it was just such a crazy time, man, because

560
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 3: it was it was such a done deal and then

561
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 3: it just wasn't out of nowhere, and it wasn't just

562
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: like recruiting a normal free agent. This is my boy,

563
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: Like I had a previous relationship with him.

564
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean the you mentioned this social media

565
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: Wars and like, look, this is there is nothing better

566
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: than NBAH Twitter, and especially like I said, because the

567
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: players are so much more active. The players are such

568
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: big fans of what's happening in the league that they

569
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: get so involved.

570
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 2: You tweeted the plane.

571
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: I think Blake Griffin might have tweeted a car Chris

572
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Paul that was the Banana boat vacation where the picture

573
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: of him mellow d Wade and Lebron he le' that vacation.

574
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: And then that's where Blake Griffin tweeted the picture of

575
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: him of a door, of a chair barricading the door. Listen,

576
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: I've tried to recruit talent for years in all various jobs.

577
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: I know that feeling in the pit of your stomach

578
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: when like when things have gone sideways.

579
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: It's excruciating.

580
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: Oh dude, this was, this is this is a bad beat.

581
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: This was and you know, the top it off, this

582
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: asshole goes to the MAVs two years later when I

583
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: leave the MAVs, so we never even got to cross

584
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: paths and play with each other. So it was a

585
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: crazy time. And again I think I think Michael Jordan

586
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: tweeting emoji. I think Kobe or the Lakers tweeted like

587
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: the championship trophy, so like that whole thing really just

588
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: took off, and that was just like the new age

589
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: of social media and what can happen and stuff. This

590
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: would never happen back in the day, but that was

591
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: such a crazy time. And I'm still to this day

592
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: on front with DJ and we definitely had a little

593
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: fallen out there for a while after that because I

594
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: feel like, how could you not? But that was definitely

595
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: one of the craziest stories. And that's just kind of

596
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: my personality. I've always been very personable. I have great

597
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 3: relationships with a lot of cool people, and so when

598
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: it comes to free agency or something like that, if

599
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 3: it's recruiting from my agent, if it's recruiting for my team,

600
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: I always wanted to have the best and to be

601
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: the best. So I would always kind of put myself

602
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: out there and do things like that. But yeah, this

603
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: one backfired.

604
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: Well, I know Simon wants to has a question when

605
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: was to ask you, but I do want to follow

606
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: up with that. There is a very sort of congenial

607
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: appeal I think you've carried yourself with through your career

608
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: where that puts you in the position, to be in

609
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: the club with Mark Cuban, to sign the contract, to

610
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: be in the room with Jerry West where he's tossing

611
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: you a hat, to be the key point of contact

612
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Jordan when you're trying to recruit him. That

613
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: doesn't happen everybody in the NBA. Does it keep happening?

614
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Why does it keep happen to you?

615
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I I just always been that type,

616
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: that type of dude. I've always been personal. I've always

617
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: been pretty easy going. I could relate to, you know,

618
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: all different walks of life. And so I don't know.

619
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: This is how I was raised the youngest of four boys.

620
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: So I was always kind of hanging with the fellas

621
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: and always uh, you know, competing and laughing. And so

622
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: through through this career, through this whole journey of the NBA,

623
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: you meet so many cool people. You're you're lucky enough

624
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: to do so many cool things and events and people

625
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: you would never think you're gonna, you know, meet, let

626
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: alone be friends with. And Dirk Novinsky was he was

627
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 3: a hero of mine, like mkhale and the guy was

628
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: at my wedding last year, like it's it's it's it's

629
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: really it's just crazy how fast everything happens. And I

630
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: think that's just kind of type of personality and and

631
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: and who I've always been, who I always will be,

632
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: and uh, it's it's it's it's been a lot of fun.

633
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 4: Channa, I was talking a bunch of guys and we

634
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: just I would love to hear your opinion on it

635
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: because you're in it. But these insiders now working with

636
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: the sports books, is that like the new age we're

637
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: in now, we're like, you know again, it's not Sean's fall,

638
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: but he's throwing tons of shade at Wach because we

639
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: just trying to make him look bad, right with these reports,

640
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: there's a whole market behind it, like you can bet

641
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: on who's going to be the lakers next head coach.

642
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: Again, Sean's just trying to do his job, right.

643
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: Does he know he's moving whole markets for the company

644
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: he works for or is that not even crossing his

645
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: brain where he's just doing his job?

646
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: No, dude, he's Scham's I can only speak on he's

647
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: a savant. He he doesn't think about Oh, I'm gonna

648
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: tweet this about prazingis tonight because it's gonna move the

649
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: line and we're gonna he don't. He just probably doesn't

650
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: even gamble. First of all, we can't even gamble in

651
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: California and fantal. So, uh, the whole hym and Woj's

652
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: thing I thought was hysterical yesterday. The whole hy dude,

653
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: that's that's because you know, they have their whole That's

654
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: how Sham's got into the business, and they've had their

655
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: whole tiff, and it's there's two guys, right, It's it's

656
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: Woj and Shams. So the fact that they are all

657
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: us out trying to outscoop each other is hilarious. But

658
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: I work with the dude five days a week and

659
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: he's a vault, so I don't know how he does it.

660
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: But he's established so many relationships and he doesn't say

661
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: a word. Today, I said, I was just sitting there

662
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: in the conference room kind of doing the pre show notes,

663
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: and I get an alert on my phone and it

664
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: says Jerry West had passed, and like he was just

665
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: I was just sitting with Sean's for twenty minutes and

666
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: he didn't bring it up, didn't mention it one time.

667
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: So it's just he's just a machine. Dude, and he's

668
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: just always working. You watch our show half the time

669
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: he's on his phone. I always want to play a

670
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: prank com and steal his phone just to see how

671
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: much he'd fucking panic. But no, it's it is crazy

672
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: because they do have the power, and obviously you see that,

673
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: and this Lakers search in particular, it was crazy because

674
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: it's always been JJJJJJ and then you you look back

675
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: and you're like, wait, Woj works with him at ESPN.

676
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: He has kind of stayed away from it, so it

677
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: doesn't really make sense because wouldn't he have the end

678
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: before Sham's And then this whole bomb gets dropped about

679
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: Dan Hurley and then Dan but they hadn't met with

680
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: him yet and they hadn't even made it an offer,

681
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: So like it's hard. I guess it's it's funny, Like

682
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: I think both of them are very good at their job.

683
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: They're both very credible, But it's funny when there's a

684
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: situation like this, Yeah, like you could be doing a

685
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: favor for somebody. Wach could be posting that for leverage

686
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: for Hurley because he's got friends with him. Now he's

687
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: got leverage to go back to Yukon hit them over

688
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: the head for more money. So when you have guys

689
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: like that with so much power, uh, it is tricky.

690
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: But unfortunately Shams doesn't dine me out with any info.

691
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: That bastard. He doesn't tell me anything, or else I'd

692
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: be putting a lot of money on who the Lakers

693
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: next coach is. I work with the guy every day.

694
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: I still don't fucking know.

695
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, don't forget Woj.

696
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Not only is he locked in through the NBA as

697
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: is Shams. Woj also literally wrote the book Bob Hurley Sr.

698
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Like he you know, has a famous, incredible best selling

699
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: book about Bob Hurley and his high school coaching career

700
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: long before he became a massive NBA insider. So both

701
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: dudes are crazy connected and this story has seemed to

702
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: put them in the center of everything they are connected

703
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: to beyond their next level of connection.

704
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: And by the way, every everything is relationship driven and

705
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: life Like Billy Donovan Junior just got the J League

706
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: coach of the Chicago Bulls. Like you think that was

707
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: because he's the best candid. You think it's because they

708
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: love ability, you know what I mean? Like every it

709
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: happens everywhere You're seeing it with Brownie James. You see

710
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 3: all the time with coaches getting hired and fired based

711
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: on relationships with the star players. So in every aspect,

712
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: especially in sports and especially in media, it comes down

713
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: to relate. Like right now, I could have Seauan's tweet

714
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: something as a favor for me, Like, you know what

715
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 3: I mean? Is he doing? Would he do that? Would

716
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: it hurts you know? Then then he's got to figure

717
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: that out himself. But it's all come on relationships.

718
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: Simon.

719
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Can you name the fastest growing ticketing app in the

720
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: United States?

721
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: Game Time?

722
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: That's right, It's game Time. I love game Time for

723
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: two reasons. First, they still sponsor this show. Second, I

724
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: use game Time all the time. They have amazing last

725
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: minute deals, including pro in college sports. I'm actually opening

726
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: the game Time app right now from my house here

727
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: in Connecticut. Guess what the hottest team in baseball? The

728
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: New York Yankees. I can get into see them.

729
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: For thirty bucks.

730
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: No matter where you live, download the game Time app,

731
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: get out have some fun this week.

732
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Speaker 2: You deserve it.

733
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: You can redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off your

734
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: first purchase. Terms apply again. Just download the game Time

735
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: app and use Code Favorites for twenty dollars off your

736
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: first purchase, last minute tickets, lowest prices guaranteed. You mentioned

737
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Rondo and he's a guy who famously, from players' points

738
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: of view, is a basketball savant, can remember anything. People

739
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: I remember when he was on the Celtics would talk

740
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: about him as if he was the most brilliant player

741
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: in the league and would be an incredible coach one day.

742
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: What's it like to play with him?

743
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Explain sort of the difference at at a level between

744
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: what he can see versus what other players see.

745
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's why him and Rick Carlo also,

746
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: but it heads so much just because Rick is very

747
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 3: hands on, wants to call a set each time down

748
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: the floor. He wants his point guard to kind of

749
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: look at him and get a play call. Rondo is

750
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: a coach on the floor and he wants to kind

751
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: of facilitate the offense and and just go off his feel,

752
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: which he had earned that right at that time of

753
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: his career. He's a champion, he's super successful. He was

754
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: an absolute stud and it's the way he carries himself.

755
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: He sees things faster, he sees things developed before most

756
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 3: coaches do. So I think when you have that sort

757
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: of brain and that sort of IQ, it is tough

758
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: to adapt to a coach. And that's why their their

759
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: relationship went south. But it was awesome playing with him.

760
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: You basically always had to have your hands up and

761
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: ready because he could just you know, throw a one

762
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: hand skip pass across the corridor. He could throw a

763
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: no look behind the back time to you just just

764
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: add of nowhere. So playing with that, he just, guys,

765
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: make the game easier for you. Rondo made the game

766
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 3: a lot easier. He gets you a lot of open looks.

767
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: Think about this, Think about how good of a passer

768
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: and how easy he makes the eamp players. And he

769
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: can't shoot. So that guy is you know what I mean.

770
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: It's like most time, most times like a Steph Curry.

771
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: Most time it's like this, who draws so much attention? Where? Okay,

772
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 3: swing swing? Now, Draymond Green has a wide open three rondo.

773
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: They try and guard him a bunch of different ways.

774
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: They try and pressure him, they try and play up

775
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 3: on him, then they play back on him because he

776
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: can't shoot, But then that gives him even more of

777
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: a look because he can see more things. So it's

778
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: he he's a special, special player and he's awesome. We

779
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: had him on the show too. I can definitely see

780
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: in him be a coach because, like I said, the

781
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: way he carries himself, the way he sees the game,

782
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: he can really help some of these young guards in

783
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: the league now kind of facilitate and navigate throughout their career.

784
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: Now, like you were saying, you became a starter, you know,

785
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: six games, and you remember like a real welcome to

786
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 4: the league kind of rookie moment you had where you

787
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: were just like, oh man, this is this is different.

788
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: H Yeah. I had a couple of the draft night

789
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: call from Kevin McHale was fucking bonkers. I was like

790
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: this is real, Like I'm in the NBA, Like this

791
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: is nuts. And then I remember my Courtney Lee, who

792
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: was my boy's in my wedding party. He was like

793
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: my vet and I had known him from Orlando just

794
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: growing up there when he put on the magic we

795
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: played pick up together in the summers and stuff, and

796
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: he was my VET. When I get drafted to Houston,

797
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm the second round pick, and they drafted Marcus Morris

798
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: first round like end of lottery, and then they drafted

799
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: a guy demonis mationis the Lithuanian lefty. He was like, there,

800
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: you know, twenty fourth pick or something. So we go

801
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: in there and Courtney Lee is talking about he's showing

802
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: me the rope, showing me this, showing me that, and

803
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: he's saying, hey, like the Rockets are notorious for sending

804
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: guys to the G League. She used to be called

805
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 3: the D League when I was playing, So be prepared,

806
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: and I remember like going to the by the way,

807
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: when going to the D League Ord League back then

808
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: was like it was. It was hard enough to take

809
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: it as an insult because you're at the top, you

810
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: get drafted, you go to training camp, you're in the NBA.

811
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 3: Then you got to you know, take the bus and

812
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: commercial fights in Delaware and like crazy shit. So it's

813
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: kind of a it's it's a roller coaster. And so

814
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: I remember I was like he said that, and I

815
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: was like, man, I don't I don't want to go

816
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: to the D League. And we start off and we lose,

817
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: and Marcus is getting some minutes, Demo is getting some minutes.

818
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: I'm not playing at all. And I remember there was

819
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: a game, like the third or fourth game, we were

820
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: getting blown out and McHale put me in and I

821
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: had like a quick ten and I remember and I

822
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: was diving on the floor, and I remember there was

823
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: a lockout in my draft here where I didn't the

824
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: team I played in France was called Chole. They didn't

825
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: give me, they didn't give me my clearance to come

826
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: back to the NBA. So I went to training camp

827
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: and I had to sit there and watch like the

828
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: first four days of training camp, not able to participate

829
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: because the team I wouln't played. So I remember I

830
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: took that time and I'm sitting there watching everything. I'm

831
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: seeing whatever, I'm hearing, all the terminology, and these guys

832
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: do they're going to a days. They're getting killed. So

833
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: I go in the fourth or fifth day, they're exhausted,

834
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 3: and I remember, I'm fresh, I'm fucking flying around everywhere.

835
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm taking charges, I'm diving on the floor. Fourth game,

836
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: they said, hey, come to the come to the come

837
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: to the bus is leaving here or whatever. We're going

838
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: to the plane. And I go and I get on

839
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: the plane like the fifth game of the year, and

840
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: Marcus Morris isn't there, and I'm like, where's Marcus. He's

841
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: like Marcus went to the D League, and I remember

842
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: looking at Courtney Lee like holy shit, like like I

843
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: didn't have to go to the D League. Marcus Morris

844
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: the lottery pick went and I ended up starting that game.

845
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, I'm going to the I'm going

846
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: to the practice really thinking I'm literally going to the

847
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 3: D League and I ended up starting the next game

848
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: on the Houston Rockets. Like that to me was like, Okay,

849
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: this is now. Now it's real, now it's on.

850
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: But look then, I think it's early the next year.

851
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: This is this is the Wayback Machine and the Chandler

852
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: Parsons Hall of Fame. I think it's November of twenty twelve.

853
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: You go, within the span of two weeks career highs.

854
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I think against the Knicks and the Heat. If I'm

855
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: not mistaken, maybe it's the MAVs in the Heat. I

856
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly, but you got to be thinking you're

857
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: not even like a full year in the league because

858
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: of the lockout. You're going twenty five plus thirty plus

859
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: at that moment, are you like, are people starting to

860
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: treat you differently? And I don't mean like, oh my

861
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: godsh Chandler Parsons, But like defensively, do you see adjustments?

862
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: Are teammates treating you differently, coaches treating you differently?

863
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 2: What happens then?

864
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you start playing more and you

865
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: start playing more minutes, you don't practice as much the

866
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: next day, you know, I mean, you're not one of

867
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: the guys that are having to play one on one

868
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: afterwards to stay in shape. So that'll immediately change. But

869
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: you're still a rookie. I'm still a rookie on this

870
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: team with you know, Luis Skola and Kevin Martin, Kyle

871
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 3: Lowry carrying their luggage. I'm still doing things like that.

872
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: I'm just starting, you know, hooping and yeah, that that

873
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: just it all happened so fast, dude, And you don't

874
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: get treated differently. Where you get a little, you get

875
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: a lot of attention. And me, I was a second

876
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: round pick, so I was almost like like a pleasant surprise.

877
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't People didn't think I was going to be

878
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: that good, which is funny to me. To me, I

879
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: was a four year college player. I was ready to play.

880
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: I think the lockout really helped me because the guys

881
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: took that time off pretty much and I played in

882
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 3: the euro League for two or three months. So when

883
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: I was done in the lockout and then I was

884
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: in tip top shape. I was just playing against you know,

885
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: in the second best league in the world, so I

886
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: was ready to compete right away. So I think that

887
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: time lockout actually kind of helped me in a weird way.

888
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was, it was It was crazy, and

889
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: like I said, it all just happened so fast. And

890
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 3: then there's always that doubt right of whether you can

891
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: fit and whether you whether you're good enough. Especially for me. Dude,

892
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: I'm just a normal, slow, white dude from Orlando that

893
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: used to think guys are fucking aliens. When I'd see

894
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: him the mall on Orlando, I remember, I freaked out

895
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: and I see like Turklou got the mall like I.

896
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: These guys were my heroes. And now I'm starting in

897
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: the NBA playing for Kevin McHale, like ball in my

898
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: hands in the fourth quarter. It was just a it

899
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: was a whirlwind, and it's it's I was lucky enough

900
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 3: to play in a situation where I got minutes right away.

901
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 3: There's a lot of talented dudes that didn't get that opportunity.

902
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: I always say marsham Brooks. You guys remember marsham Brooks. Yeah,

903
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: kid from Providence. He was a stud And I'm just

904
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: whatever opportunity he had, it wasn't the right fit. It

905
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: was a bad situation. And now he you know, he

906
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: had to go overseas and play in China and so like,

907
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to get a situation where I

908
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: got the right system, the right players, the right coach

909
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: that believed in me early. And I took advantage of that.

910
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: But it could have easily it went the other way.

911
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: Uh, NBA draft coming up, no standout, no women and

913
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Yama uh not even a Palo Bancaro. Give us your

914
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: take on how this draft looks from a analyst and

915
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: also former player perspective.

916
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we don't know yet. There could be a

917
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: Palo in this draft, right, We have no idea. I

918
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: went to the gym the other day my agent, James

919
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: Dunleevy at Excel Sports. They repped Mantas. This kid's a

920
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: freak and I watched him. He's he's one of the

921
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: more athletic kids I've ever seen. This kid's bounce is

922
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: nuts and he needs to work on a shot a

923
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: little bit. It's a little slow and a kind of

924
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: funny release. But this kid's talking shit, He's oozing with confidence.

925
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: This freak athlete, I mean freak, So I love him

926
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: a lot. I don't know. I'm not familiar with the

927
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: two French kids. I could go one and two honestly

928
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 3: too much. But I also love Jacobe Walker from Baylor.

929
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: He's a six nine to sixty ten shooter. The way

930
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 3: he moves, the way he can get a quick release

931
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: come off screens, I love him. I think he's kind

932
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: of fallen off for whatever reason. You can get him

933
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: in like the late lottery. So the's always going to

934
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: be talent. There's always going to be surprises. There is

935
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: no Zion, there's no Wimby this year, but that's not

936
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: to say it couldn't be end up being a really,

937
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: really deep draft. So I'm excited for There's going to

938
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: be some sleepers in this draft, and there's a lot

939
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 3: of talent always, so these kids are reaching their dreams

940
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: and it's happening for them. So I'm excited for that.

941
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: But I really like Matis and Jakobe Walker kind of

942
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: my two sleepers in this draft.

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