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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Billy Show.

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Speaker 3: Ruben Tomorrow Junior, Jim Salisbury. Look at us, Ruben, we're together,

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Speaker 3: Ruben Tomorrow Junior. You're in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, I'm feeling a little fomo.

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Speaker 3: You're missing out, buddy. We're in Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: I am that.

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Speaker 3: It is Monday, July sixth, twenty twenty six. A lot

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Speaker 3: to talk about on today's show, and we got to

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Speaker 3: get going. So let's not waste another minute. It's time

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Speaker 3: there's always another.

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Speaker 2: Way to win. You know it, Ruben, it's the number one.

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Speaker 3: It's the number one way to win Phillies. Jim. Five

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Speaker 3: all Stars we learned on Saturday night here in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to run through it for us? Once

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Speaker 3: you take the honors, Jim.

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Speaker 1: You want to start with the position guys or the pitcher.

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Speaker 3: Start with the position players.

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Speaker 1: So Brandon marsh Earns the start in the outfield, voted

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Speaker 1: in by the fans. Spoke to him a little bit

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, Very very grateful. He is very appreciative. Young man.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper is the Commissioner's legend pick, and which Rubin,

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Speaker 1: you actually were right all over that. You were all

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Speaker 1: over that like a duck on a june bug. And

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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber is also a selection obviously leads some majors

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Speaker 1: and home runs, with Chris Sanchez and Johan do Ran

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Speaker 1: on the team as well. The closer and the great

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Speaker 1: starting pitcher, Zach Wheeler comes up short, missed a month.

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Speaker 1: I think that probably worked against him. But Ruben, Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 1: you speculated that he might be the Commissioner's pick, and

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Speaker 1: like I said, you nailed that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not really not at all surprised other

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Speaker 5: than the Wheeler non pick. I mean, I'm really not surprised.

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Speaker 5: Now Wheeler is likely not going to be able.

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Speaker 6: To participate because I think he's scheduled a pitch on

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Speaker 6: Sunday as is Ley, miz Which is actually probably a

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Speaker 6: good thing for our other boy, mister san Cheese. But

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Speaker 6: and that sort of lines up things properly as they should.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we've talked about all this.

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Speaker 5: Well deserved and a great honor for marsh. I can't

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Speaker 5: believe it's Doran's first one. It's hard for me to

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Speaker 5: even imagine that, but I guess, you know, you start

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Speaker 5: thinking about some of the guys. Jimmy Rollins didn't play

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Speaker 5: in a whole lot of All Star Games because he

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Speaker 5: like not a real like cold weather player. So even

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Speaker 5: as good as Jimmy is and likely a Hall of

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Speaker 5: Famer in my mind, the guy didn't play in a

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Speaker 5: ton of All Star Games because he had you know,

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Speaker 5: slow starts. Maybe that's the case with Doran as well,

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Speaker 5: but because he's been awesome, but no surprises. Great, great

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Speaker 5: for Marshie to get an opportunity to be recognized appropriately

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Speaker 5: because he's had a hell of a year and now

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Speaker 5: two years now, so happy and proud of that, and boy,

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Speaker 5: that's good. Abode well at the arbitration table for him.

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Speaker 4: Lots of glue, Yeah, lots of glue.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that'll jump his number quite significantly and rightly

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Speaker 4: And yeah, no surprise. I mean, Sanchez obviously, one of

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Speaker 4: the best pictures in.

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Speaker 5: Baseball should be there, should be starting all of that,

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Speaker 5: and probably will. I can't imagine that there is a

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Speaker 5: scenario unless somebody gets hurt. Something happened, some craziness that

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Speaker 3: Bryce said he found out on Wednesday that he was

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Speaker 3: the legend pick. He got a voicemail during It was

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Speaker 3: during Wednesday's game right against the Parts, Rob Manford called

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball Commissioner called left Bryce a voicemail, and

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Speaker 3: of course Ruben like me, the way my brain works is,

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Speaker 3: you know, we get spam calls all the time. You

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Speaker 3: get the two, one, five, blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: So I asked Bryce, I go, so, do you know

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Speaker 3: when you see the voicemail, do you know it's Rob Manford?

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Speaker 3: Because sometimes you know, I get I'll get a voicemail.

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Speaker 3: If I don't recognize the number, I don't even bother

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Speaker 3: to check. He's like, I have Rob's number on my phone,

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Speaker 3: so he knew Rob Manford had left him a voicemail.

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Speaker 3: He checks the voicemail, says, give me a call. I

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Speaker 3: want to talk All Star Game with you, and then

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Speaker 3: he gets the course, he gets the nod that he

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Speaker 3: was a legend pick, which you know, Bryce was great

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Speaker 3: talking about it on Sunday morning. Here Jim Right, I

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Speaker 1: He was great. Todd wrote about on MLB dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a about it on NBC Sports Philadelphia, very

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Speaker 1: open and quotable. Talked about, you know how it means

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Speaker 1: something to him to be the commissioner's legend pick. It's

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Speaker 1: nine in a row. He wants more. Nine overall, I

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Speaker 1: should say all Star games. He wants more. Talked about

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Speaker 1: his season and he flat out said, quote, I deserve

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Speaker 1: Some would even call it elite. I think it's right there.

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Speaker 1: He's eleventh in Major League Baseball coming into Sunday in OPS,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with him, he deserves to be in

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Speaker 1: the game in a lot of ways. But Bryce is

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Speaker 3: I think he deep down he would love the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to be there. Right, But he says his dad's not

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Speaker 3: going to throw to him Ruben, right like his dad

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Speaker 3: But I guess there is some truth this.

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Speaker 3: There's a difference between throwing BP and high school and

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Speaker 3: said Reuben, I am not coming just to have fun.

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Speaker 3: if I'm competing in it, I want to pitch here.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna throw me some right where I want it

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Speaker 3: so I can win that competition in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's a real thing. I mean, there's no question

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Speaker 5: I've I've brought guys who I knew through very good

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Speaker 5: they really do struggle. I struggle throwing VP. That's one

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're talking about a level of scrutiny that's

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Speaker 5: to Bryce Harper, but but it is important to UH.

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Speaker 5: It is important to be able to have a guy

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Speaker 4: And UH, I think who was it somewhere? Guys Ramone,

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Speaker 4: Important and UH, and it will be really interesting.

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Speaker 5: There's no question in my mind that he's going to

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Speaker 4: And there's no question in.

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Speaker 5: My mind that this man will be busting his buttocks

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. There's tons of pressure on the on

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Speaker 1: the guy who throws VP in the home run derby.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got all the TV cameras, you got

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Speaker 3: And how much fun would it be? I mean, what

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Speaker 3: the ideal situation. Of course, Schwarburn Harper participate. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are two like listen, they're there are

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Speaker 5: I mean, you could talk about the Marshes and and

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Speaker 3: You know, it was cool in the in terms that

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Speaker 3: We know why he made it, but I thought it

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Speaker 3: was interesting that he edged Shoheyo Tani in the player vote,

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Speaker 1: Respect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a respect thing. I think people really appreciate

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Speaker 3: and respect what Kyle Shwarbur does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been he's been around in the different parts

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Speaker 2: Many players as anybody.

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Speaker 4: been on five teams?

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Speaker 5: So. He's been on four teams, very prominent teams, high

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Speaker 2: Of those spots.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not surprised that he's building a reputation of

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Speaker 3: Lots of options do you want? Do you want to

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Speaker 1: Jim, There's tons of options. I might just go right

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Speaker 4: Toddy, Yeah, great call, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I'm going to say Bryce Harper kind

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Speaker 3: Are you elite now? He said, I'm going to leave

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Speaker 5: Yes, he's an elite the ball player, and he's a

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Speaker 4: You know. The last thing is put one of these

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Speaker 5: To show the world that he's great, and what better

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Speaker 5: Douran has been just he has been phenomenal. He's uh,

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Speaker 5: This man has changed the whole dynamic of the bullpen. Yes,

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Speaker 3: He's a great pick, a great All Star. It's funny

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Speaker 3: He's just been so good for so many years, not

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Speaker 3: But this is his first one.

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Speaker 4: Doing it in a city, doing it in a city

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Speaker 5: He was not doing it in a city that was

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Speaker 3: best week. When you want the best of the best,

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Speaker 3: I could have really used a Monster Energy drink today, Rubin,

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Speaker 4: Donnie allowed.

437
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Speaker 5: Him to stay in that game and to finish that

438
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Speaker 5: seventh inning good stuff.

439
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Speaker 3: Do you think it was a gamble in this sense?

440
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

441
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Speaker 1: I was so so here.

442
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Speaker 3: And because here's why we talk about this all the time.

443
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: I always go back to Charlie Manually, a guy's pitching, well, ish,

444
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: you take him out, you go, why didn't you have

445
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: him go the scent? Well, he got him out in

446
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: a good part of the game. I was like, the

447
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: sixth inning, Nola got through six innings, three runs, that's

448
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: a great spot to get him out. He was at

449
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: eighty three pitches, so obviously he could push him more.

450
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Speaker 3: But to me, I thought it was a gamble because

451
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Speaker 3: if he goes out in the seventh inning, gets blown up,

452
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Speaker 3: even though he's facing eight nine to one. I thought

453
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Speaker 3: it was a little bit of a risk, so it

454
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Speaker 3: really paid off well. Like you said, Ruby, I think

455
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Speaker 3: he walks out of the ballpark today feeling really good

456
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Speaker 3: about himself. Absolutely a nice little gamble there by Don Mattingly.

457
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Speaker 1: He struck out the side, all on knuckle curveballs, all

458
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: on spike curveballs. You know, he strikes out the side,

459
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Speaker 1: finishes strong. I thought there was a really good chance

460
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Speaker 1: he was coming out of that game because they had

461
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Speaker 1: action in the bullpen, and you know, I look out there,

462
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: the door is open, and then all of a sudden,

463
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Speaker 1: I see him running back out to the mound. I mean,

464
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Speaker 1: I can understand it from the point of view. It

465
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Speaker 1: was the bottom of the order and he was only

466
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Speaker 1: at eighty three pitches and he had a quick sixth.

467
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Speaker 1: But I still thought, you know, there are times you

468
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Speaker 1: get a guy out of there because you've seen stuff

469
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Speaker 1: happen before things blow up, and you wanted to leave

470
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Speaker 1: feeling good and you don't want the game to get

471
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Speaker 1: away from you. But he snuffed out that inning in

472
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Speaker 1: a hurry.

473
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

474
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Speaker 4: What I'm seeing about Don Manningly is I think that there's.

475
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Speaker 8: Some situations where he's sort of testing guys what what

476
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Speaker 8: in the in the in the case of Aaron Ol

477
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 8: not as much of a test, but a confidence builder

478
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Speaker 8: for him to allow him to go back out there,

479
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Speaker 8: and he felt like he had the stuff to be

480
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 8: able to do that paid off.

481
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Speaker 5: Well. However, on the flip side, I was surprised that

482
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Speaker 5: he went with Johnson set Johnson then in the eighth

483
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 5: because it was a game that was still in hand

484
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 5: and the team has done a very good job of

485
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 5: scoring runs late as of late, and so he's not

486
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: really one of their plus relievers. But the game was

487
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 5: only a one run game at the time, and I

488
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 5: think he's sort of trying to find out whether some

489
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Speaker 5: of these guys can pitch and hold leads. And it

490
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: was obvious that in the last two outings that he's had,

491
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Speaker 5: really Johnson hasn't really been able to do that when

492
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Speaker 5: you're walking guys and then he brings back Asin behind him,

493
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Speaker 5: and so I think in some ways Don Mattingly's trying

494
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Speaker 5: to find out whether he can get these guys to

495
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Speaker 5: go to the next step and he's sort of finding

496
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Speaker 5: out that maybe some of these guys can't. And I'm

497
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Speaker 5: sure how many times he's going to give these guys

498
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 5: opportunities to do that. Not sure who was all available in.

499
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 9: That bullpen that you felt like some of their plus

500
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 9: guys were available, correct, But I don't feel like. I

501
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 9: feel it was one of those situations where he's trying

502
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 9: to test it out to see if these guys can

503
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Speaker 9: get it.

504
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Speaker 1: Done well when he's stuck with Nola. He actually said

505
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Speaker 1: something after the game that we were still in a

506
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: minus situation and I wanted to stay away from our

507
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: main guys. So he tells you he doesn't have a

508
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: ton of trust out there in the bullpen. That's staying

509
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: away from his main guys one of the reasons he's

510
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: stuck with Nola. So I mean he's got a very

511
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: small circle of trust out there. On seth Johnson, I

512
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: look at the arm and I say, kid man, you

513
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: gotta start throwing strikes. And he's very straight, which is

514
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: a concern, but you got to throw strikes to give

515
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: yourself a fighter's chance to show how good that arm is.

516
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: And it's not going to happen if you don't throw strikes.

517
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Speaker 4: Got to throw strikes out of a bullpen.

518
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 5: There's nothing more demoralizing to a team and more difficult

519
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 5: to overcome than walking people in out of the pem.

520
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Don Don is not afraid to try things. He's

521
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: not rattle easily. Again, we before Saturday night's game, we

522
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: asked him to have you chatted with Zach and I

523
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: think he kind of like almost smiled a little bit, like, yeah,

524
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: we chatted. He didn't really revealed him. He was like, oh, yeah,

525
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 3: I'm fine. He went, he made his point, I made

526
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: my point. It's all good. I'm fine. You know, he's

527
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: not bothered by it. Zach's opinion. So he talked about that.

528
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Painter allowed what one run in six innings on

529
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 3: Saturday with triple the Valley.

530
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was four head snow walks.

531
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 4: I think four or five strikeouts something like that.

532
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know all the numbers.

533
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: And he, Jim, you asked him. I thought was an

534
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 3: interesting question about the timetable. Maybe could this be a

535
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: short turnaround? What did what did he say? You want

536
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: to share that? Don?

537
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: You forgot to.

538
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: He basically said, He's like, we didn't go into this

539
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: with any sort of plan.

540
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: He's like, get better.

541
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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's not like go down there and we're

542
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: gonna forget about you for for for the next couple

543
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: of months. He was like, yeah, I mean we went

544
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: and we sent him down there open minded to work

545
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: on us some things, to get better, to build his

546
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: confidence back. So if he if he goes out here.

547
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: It made it sound as though if he goes out

548
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: in the next few weeks and rais the ship.

549
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: If he pitches good, he's going to be back. They

550
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: need him. Yes, they need a quality a good fifth starter.

551
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: They need it.

552
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they need all of the pitch like he pitched

553
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: today or on Sunday, and he they need, you know,

554
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 5: Andrew Painter to come back and pitched a lot better

555
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: than he pitched. And so I didn't find out and

556
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: I'm trying to sneak around and get some.

557
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: Information about you know, the numbers are the numbers.

558
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: I get that.

559
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 5: That doesn't necessarily mean that those the way he pitched

560
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: were good, was going to get major league hitters out.

561
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: He's getting minor league hitters out. It's a good sign.

562
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 5: No walks, that's big. I think that's important.

563
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: But the question I have is what he threw strikes,

564
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: and I used to think about this and talk about

565
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: this a lot. Were they minor league strikes or major

566
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: league strikes?

567
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: Because there's a difference because a strike in the minor

568
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 5: leagues might be down the middle that gets whacked that

569
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: a minor leaguer fouls off or mishits that a major

570
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 5: leaguer doesn't. And so is his commands he driving the

571
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: ball down? Is he getting good life on that fastball?

572
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: Is he cutting it loose? Is he not cutting it off?

573
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: Is he getting good breaking stuff down? It doesn't have

574
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: good life to his fastball back when he was throwing

575
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: his fastball with great life prior to his injury. That's

576
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 5: what I want to find out, and that's why I

577
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: would have my scouts at some point or someone who

578
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 5: has a different to watch him pitch so that I

579
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 5: can discern whether or not these are quality strikes or

580
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: just quality minor league strikes.

581
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Speaker 4: There's a difference.

582
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Speaker 2: Believe me, we know.

583
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez can get big LEA hitters out. He's going

584
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Speaker 3: to pitch in Monday's series finale against Kansas City. We

585
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: chatted with him again on Sunday morning before the game,

586
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: and he was very appreciative of making his second NL

587
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: All Star team, and I think he is looking forward

588
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: today possibly starting in the All Star Game on July

589
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 3: fourteenth at Citizen Bank Park. So he says, I'm I'm

590
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: worried about Kansas City and I'm worried about Saturday start against.

591
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Speaker 2: The Tigers in Detroit.

592
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: We'll worry about that afterward. But like you said, the answer, yeah,

593
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: the right answer. But like you said, Ruben at the

594
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Speaker 3: beginning at the top of the show, if not Christopher Sanchez,

595
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: then who else? Because the miss already said he's out.

596
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: He's pitching Sunday's regular first half finale for the Brewers.

597
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: He's already says I'm here. He said, I'm out at

598
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: the All Star Game. I'm not pitching the All Star Game.

599
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: There is nobody you can make a case for other

600
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: than Christopher Sanchez.

601
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it sort of makes the It sort of makes

602
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: the decision for Dave Roberts easy, and I think he

603
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: would probably make it a decision anyway, I really do.

604
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Speaker 2: I think Dave Roberts is very.

605
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: In tune with stuff, and this is important stuff. The

606
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 5: fact that this is one of the best, you know,

607
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: pitchers in the game. He's in the NL, and it's

608
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: in his home park, and he's been fundamenon all at

609
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 5: home in his entire.

610
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: Career, so particularly this year as well.

611
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: So one in, one inning, one inning, nine pitches and

612
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: go to fog Deshao.

613
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 5: I was going to go somewhere, Foe go to Chown's great,

614
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: but he's probably gonna step it up a few notches

615
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 5: beyondest well.

616
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: But I only want them one inning, nine pitches, Thank

617
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: you very much.

618
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

619
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Speaker 3: I love it, guys. That was fun Philly show. We'll

620
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: be back on Wednesday.

621
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Speaker 1: Wednesday, I think we'll see.

622
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: We'll be back there this week, Ruben. Yeah, we'll be

623
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: back later this week.

624
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Okay, million later, Ruben.

625
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: Jimmy