1 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. Miles Simmons, DeMarco 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: far It is Wednesday, December twelfth, about eleven am Pacific 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: time here in Agora Hills, California, and the Rams are 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: now eleven and two after what I think we can 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: call that a clunker DeMarco fifteen to six to the Bears. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: That's that's putting it mildly. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: just it was one of those games where, man, you 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: just everything that could go wrong seem to have gone wrong. 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I guess that's the way to put it. I mean, 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: I think the Bears just put it on them. Yeah. Yeah, 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: that tweet that you made fun of about the Revenant 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense, no, right, oh yeah, yeah, they 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: brought it. They were better than the Rams in pretty 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: much every category, so they deserved the victory. Cold weather 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: be damned right exactly. And that was it was a 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: weird thing, I guess to see the Rams often shut 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: down as it was, you know, because we really haven't 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: seen that all year, and there's only really two games 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: that I can sort of think of, at least in 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: the regular season off the top, that have that has 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: happened in the Sean McVeagh or for the Rams, and 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: the one was in Minnesota last year. Yeah, and then 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: this one for against Chicago this year that just happened. Well, 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: why weird? I guess you could see it coming from Detroit. Yeah, yeah, 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was the offensive line was leaky. 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: Finally against a better defensive line than what you saw 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: in Detroit, they got instant pressure. And when you're getting 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: pressure from the nose, there's no chance of winning, there's 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: no chance of doing much of anything. Running the football, 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: for runing the football, screening in the football. I see 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: a lot of tweets out there about why they didn't 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: run the football. Well, go ask Khalil mackin company, go 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: ask Vic Fangio. They would not allow the Rams to 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: run the football. I think at one point Girly was 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: what six carries six yards? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: they're trying. They're just not getting much out of it. 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: So it is what it is. The Bears were just 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: better on game day, right exactly. And you know what 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Sean mcvayh We know this. He's always self critical, extremely 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: self critical, especially after losses, but he was even more 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: so in this particular game. I think just it. You 42 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: could tell everything that was bothering him. You know, he 43 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: said in that postgame press conference, you know, specific to 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: my role, I feel like I let the team down 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: in this and that in the third and that's all fine, 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I also kind of feel 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: like Sean McVay didn't throw four picks. You know, Sean 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: McVay didn't get a block in the back penalty that 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: was critical, and you know on a first down, Sean 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: mcgveiy didn't get a pair of false start penalties either. 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, there rooms have four pre snap penalties in 52 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: this game, and you just don't see that from them 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: offensively at all. No. But I mean, you know, if 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: you have a string of these games where you have 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: the same block in the back, same false start, same whatever, 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: coaches get fired. So they're ultimately responsible for how their 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: team plays. So he's exactly right. It is incumbent upon 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: him to make his team petter, to get his team better. 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: But you know, it's a man in the marriortime. Like 60 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: you said, Seany is calling plays. He's the guy on 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the sideline. You're on the field. It's up to you 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: to make plays, either stop them from making plays or 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: make plays on your own. So I get where you're 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: coming from. But you know, I think the blame is 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: going exactly where it needs to go. It starts from 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: the top down, and you have to work on it 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: from Monday through Friday and get ready for Sunday. If 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: you don't prepare the way you should. You know, good 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: teams like the Bears can make you look bad. Even 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: bad teams can beat you if you don't prepare properly 71 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: for game day. Yeah, and I think that's what the 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Rams are going through now. It's interesting you talk about 73 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the man in the mirror thing, you know, Robie Coleman 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: talking to him after the game where we bring up 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: to him. Okay, Sean McVeigh just said, you know, it 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: starts with me, I gotta look at myself. Dada da 77 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: da da, and Robie Coleman basically say echoes it says, Okay, Well, 78 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: that just means that you've got to do everything you can. 79 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: You have to look in the mirror and say, did 80 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I do everything that I could to prepare to be successful? 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Because if that's the way it comes down from the top, 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: that it really permeates about the entire building out I mean, look, 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: when you get closer, and this is the funny thing. 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: I remember going way back to when the Rams were 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I think they were five and zero, and you know, 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: there were everybody's popular super Bowl pick, and all this 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: time we said, it's a long way from now until 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And you see it, the closer you 89 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, the closer you get to the 90 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, the closer you get to the super Bowl, 91 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the more it comes down to you versus that guy 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: in front of you. And it all depends on who 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: wants it more, who prepared better, and just who gets 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: to their technique faster. So it doesn't really matter whose 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: fault it is. They beat you, period, end of story. 96 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: So the next team is preparing to beat you. The 97 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Eagles are coming in here thinking they can beat you. 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: So and they have a lot to play for. The 99 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have a lot to play for. It's the 100 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: National Football League. So and we said this, look after 101 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: kickoff records don't matter. It only matters what you do 102 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: on this play of this snap. And if they win 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: more snaps than you, chances are you're gonna lose that 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: football game. Every time you hear coaches talk about this. 105 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Each play is an entity and to itself. You know, 106 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: each game is an entity, half each snap, what however 107 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: you want to call it. It's interesting how you really 108 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: can't just look past different things in different situations. And 109 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't think the Rams were looking past the Bears 110 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: at all. But it's interesting how you know everybody's saying, 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, well, home field advantage is almost off 112 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: the table because you didn't take care of anything with 113 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: the Bears, and it's like, maybe that's true, but at 114 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the same time, everything is so weak, too weak. I 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: almost don't know that that matters in the first place. Well, 116 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: this is when I turned my ears off. It does 117 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: not matter, it doesn't care. I don't care about that. 118 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: I remember the New York Giants went in from a 119 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: wild card. It can happen. So, I mean, the first 120 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: first thing you want to do for any football team 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: is win year division. They've done that, then you automatically 122 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: qualify for the postseason, and then when you're there, let's 123 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: see what happens from there. So you know, teams get better, 124 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: teams get worse. Towards the end of the year. I 125 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: bet that no one thought the Bears could do what 126 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: they did versus the Rams offense. You can blame it 127 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: on the cold if you want to, But I mean, 128 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: if you watch film from the last couple of weeks, 129 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: you could say the Bears were ramping up for this 130 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: and the Rams were ramping down to age. Yeah, so 131 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get better from this point. Maybe 132 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: the Bears played the best that they could possibly play 133 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: against the Rams. We'll see how they finish out. But 134 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see how the Rams finish out the year. 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: But it's just one game. All is not lost. You 136 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: lick your wounds. And if I'm leading this football team, 137 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: I probably won't even watch this tape. Really, well, what's 138 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: what's the point in watching it? Move on from this? 139 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: It happened, it's over. Let's get ready for the Eagles. Yeah, 140 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you can learn from watching them. Well. 141 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: I think part of it is something that Sean McVay 142 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: brought up on Monday when he was asked by reporters, 143 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, what did you see on the film? And 144 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I think McVeigh was maybe maybe when as far as 145 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: he has as I've heard him, at least I feel 146 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: like in criticizing players, and so I brought up the quotes. 147 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: So we'll do our reading segment here where I just 148 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: will read this. But he said, I think the best 149 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: way to put I would put it as a combination 150 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: of number one, Like I had mentioned some of the 151 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: decisions some of the spots that our players were put 152 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: in based on the place selection by me. But then 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: I think also it was a rare combination that a 154 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: lot of our guys that are the most accountable, most reliable, 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: having some insistence where they made some uncharacteristic mistakes. Really, 156 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: so it's one thing if you can try to overcome 157 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: it when a lot of those occur on one play, 158 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: but they seem to kind of conveniently work out where 159 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: it was on different sets of plays that end up 160 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: hurting your ability to get into any rhythm developing continuity. 161 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: So then it continues our players, they did some things 162 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: that we've got a lot of confidence in our guys. 163 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: Certainly this is going to be a learning opportunity, but 164 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: there were some things when you just look at it, 165 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: you say, those aren't the things that we're accustomed to 166 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: seeing from our players. Certainly, the Chicago Bears defense had 167 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: to say in that a large role in some of 168 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: us making those decisions, but I think a large part 169 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: of it too was somewhat self inflicted. Those are things 170 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: that we as coaches can look at doing a better 171 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: job of, and then the players will do the same. Okay, 172 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: nice way of putting it. I mean, look, if you 173 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: task you're right tackle with blocking Khalil Mack and he whips, okay, 174 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: so is that putting him in a bad position? I mean, 175 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: that's what he's saying. Or if you if your respected 176 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: left tackle has a couple of false starts, I mean, 177 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: is that related to the sound or is that just 178 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: a mental error? Or if your center is just getting 179 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: knocked backwards constantly, is that McVeigh putting you in a 180 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: bad situation? Or is that just a guy winning the 181 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: phone booth battle. I'd go with the ladder, But what 182 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: is the head coach supposed to say? He's got to 183 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: keep his guys focusing ready to go. But to be honest, 184 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: when you watch, I mean, I don't know if you're 185 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: if having Jared Goff dropped back to seven in the 186 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: situation where he has to throw the football and guys 187 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: get beat up front, I don't know if that's putting 188 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: guys in bad situations. That's just playing football. They're winning 189 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: and you're not right. But I think I think it's 190 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: both right and I know that Morty is supposed to do. 191 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: If you have to throw the football, right, That's what 192 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying exactly. Yeah, so right, you know you have 193 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: to put him in certain positions, especially when you're talking 194 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: about it. Yes, you have to throw the football because, 195 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: as you said in the open like, they're not letting 196 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: you run it. You know, they're beating you up front, 197 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: they're playing different fronts that and they're staying in their 198 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: base and when even though the Rams are playing eleven personnel. 199 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: And that is something that I think is really interesting 200 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like over and over this year we've 201 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: heard Sean McVay, Jared Goff, a lot of offensive players say, well, 202 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: they did some different things defensively. Now, most of the 203 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: time the Rams have been able to overcome that, but 204 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: I guess it's just part of the thing of being 205 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: the hunted, right, You're going to get teams to do 206 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: different things defensively than they've shown on films so that 207 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: they can stop specifically you well, yeah, you know, what 208 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: was the buzzword or the phrase that we used to 209 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,479 Speaker 1: use about this offense where it looks like it's complicated, 210 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: but it's really not the illusion of complexity. And we 211 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: give the offensive line a whole lot of credit for 212 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: what they have been able to do. They're very deceptive. 213 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: But if you're able to draw a beat on these guys, 214 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: or you feel like you have guys on the other 215 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: side that can win those matchups, and if you stop 216 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: the run and force them to have to pick you 217 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: up or block you one on one, they feel they 218 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: have the advantage. And that's what I saw. Yeah, you know, 219 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: trying to you know, watch this game or evaluate it 220 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: while on the field while it's going down, and believe me, 221 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: it was cold out there. When you're just looking from 222 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: a straight down the football point of view, watching their 223 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: face mask versus yours. When the ball was snapped, they 224 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: were two yards up the field or at least into 225 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: you before you were. That means they're winning. There's not 226 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: much you can do, game plan wise, there's not much 227 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: you can do head coaching wise to counteract that. If 228 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: they're just on your ass constantly, play after play after play. 229 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: It's up to the guys on the field to combat that, 230 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: so they made more plays. It's it's it's tough. You're 231 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to swallow it. It's it's a it's a 232 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: rare piece of steak that's gonna be tough to choke down. 233 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: But you're gonna have to realize that on game day 234 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: the Bears were just better. This will help you prepare 235 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: for the playoffs when it's a one and done situation. 236 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: If you're not ready to beat whoever lines up against you, 237 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: you're going home. So if you can liken this to 238 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: a New Orleans loss, where a loss can actually help you, 239 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: if you take this the right way, take this ass 240 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: whoop in the right way, it could help you for 241 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the year and then going into the postseason. 242 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh called it very, very humbling for him, but 243 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: I think it was very very humbling throughout excuse me, 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: for the entire team, especially the offensive unit. We were 245 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: only scoring six points. Don't even get it in the box. 246 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: That's only the in seventy nine games that McVeigh has 247 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: been a head coach offensive coordinator, this is only the 248 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: second time that his offense has not scored a touchdown. 249 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: That's per ESPN. Stats and information. So it's an anomaly. 250 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah right, great head coach, Yeah right. Only good head 251 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: coaches and great offensive minds can say that. But we 252 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: have a long way to go. This season is not 253 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: over yet. So if you don't rally, if you don't 254 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: get better, you may see it again in the coliseum. 255 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: Philadelphia has a lot to play for and they're playing 256 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: inspired ball right now. You better match that, same as 257 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Spree to corp. Yes, it doesn't matter how what you've 258 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: done in September, October, November. It only matters what you 259 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: do right now. Yes, I love that you just threw 260 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: some French in there. Oh yeah, it's an old team thing. Yes, 261 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: old team thing I learned way back in the day 262 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: on the way to win in a Lombardi spirit of heart. Yes, 263 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: the audience that doesn't thank you very much? Yes right. Um, 264 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: So we kind of talked about this, but I want 265 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: to dig a little bit more into it. When you 266 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: have a guy like Todd Gurley and he is leading 267 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: the league in touches and carries in rushing yards, what 268 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: could they maybe have done to get him going a 269 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: little bit better? It's funny, I liken it to me 270 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: getting here this morning. When you get on the four 271 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: or five headed north, no matter how much you want 272 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: to get there fast, you can't. There's just nowhere to go. 273 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: All five lanes are blocked. So I mean, I saw 274 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: the same thing he's taking carries or the six that 275 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: he did take, and he's staring at at least three 276 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: or four bears. You know, guys that should be blocked. 277 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: Aren't the free hitters coming with a full head of steam. 278 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: And he's got to do with the safety that's coming 279 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: as a clean up hitter. So not only is this 280 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: run not really going to travel that far, it could 281 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: be punishing at the end. So it's a frustrating deal 282 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: for him. And you know, I know a lot of 283 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: people say, why don't you go to the screen game. Well, okay, 284 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: if you go back and watch, both ends are smelling 285 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: out those screens. They're looking for those tackles. If they 286 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: don't get the proper read or the proper steps versus 287 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: the play fake you're trying to run, they're not gonna 288 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: buy it, and they're gonna be in on your screens 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: in a blank. So they're taking a lot of things 290 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: away from you, So they're forcing you to beat them. 291 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: They're forcing Jared Goff to beat them throwing the football 292 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: down the field, and the Rams turn the ball over 293 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: quite a few times. So that's only going to kill 294 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: you in big games like that. So there's only so 295 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: much you can do to combat a defense that's just 296 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: on everything you're trying to do. It was on the 297 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: defense to pitch a shutout the second time in a 298 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks that a tackle eligible has hurt you. 299 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: You played lights out for the most part. Well, you 300 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: can't really say lights out when you get hit again 301 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: with another tackle eligible for for a touchdown. But there 302 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: were situations where you had their quarterback sewed up in 303 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: the pocket and he found a way to escape to 304 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: extend drives. Now, they didn't score that many points, but 305 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: they stayed on the field long enough to keep you 306 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: off balance. So they didn't get much from the offense. 307 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: They were led by their defense. You just frankly didn't 308 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: make enough big plays on either side to win that 309 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: football game, right, Yeah. So I mean it's like I said, 310 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: there's a lesson in all of this, and the lesson 311 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: going for is how do you respond from this? Do 312 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: you look back and say what it could have should it? 313 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Or do you say, well, look, never again. Hopefully you 314 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: get the never again rams this Sunday. Yes, absolutely, And 315 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I think one guy that you have to hope says 316 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: the never again is Jared Goff because over the last 317 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: two weeks, I mean we can call it like it is, 318 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: man like, Jared Goff has not played well. He's really 319 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: played poorly. I think that we can say over the 320 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: last two weeks it's not even completing fifty percent of 321 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: his passes. And I've got the numbers in front of 322 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: me now it's forty eight percent completion rate, three hundred 323 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: and eighty seven yards, one touchdown, five receptions, two fumbles, 324 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: sack five times, yards per attempt just five point zero three. Well, look, 325 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: he's the number one spot and the team is gonna 326 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: go as he goes. So you know, if there's something wrong, 327 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: then I hope he gets fixed, or if it is 328 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: possible to fix him, let's hope you get him fixed 329 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: in a hurry, because I think if you have a 330 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: complete turnaround from that spot, that game is different. Agreed, Yeah, 331 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: that game is different on Sunday night. And if you 332 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: bring the same Jared Goff to the Coliseum versus Philadelphia, 333 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: then you're gonna put a lot on Todd, You're gonna 334 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: put a lot on the defense. You're gonna put a 335 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: lot on the special teams to dig yourself out of holes. 336 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: So you know, you can take anything as a football team, 337 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: especially as a defender, you can take anything. You can 338 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: take a team that's going three and out that has 339 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: to punt almost every single possession which you can't take 340 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: is turnovers, which you can't take. Is giving them life 341 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: constantly by throwing the ball to them. So for whatever reason, 342 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: we don't know, we're not running routes, we're not throwing passes, 343 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, the ball kept kept ending up 344 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: in their hands. That cannot happened. That has to be fixed. 345 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: The only people that know the truth or why that 346 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: happened is Jared Goff and Sean McVay. So hopefully those 347 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: two will figure this stuff out before Sunday. Yeah, no question. 348 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: And it's it's just not what we're accustomed to seeing 349 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: from him. I mean, he never had an intercept a 350 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: day with three interceptions, let alone four. So even at 351 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: his worst, you know, when we're talking about the rookie 352 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: year and all that thing, all the things that happened 353 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: that everybody. You know that he especially does not like 354 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: talking about. We never saw four interception day from Jared Goff, 355 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: So for that to happen at this point and at 356 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: this point in the season, I don't know what's going on. 357 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, as far as we know, 358 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: he's not hurt, he's not on the injury report. There's 359 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: never necessary, There's never been anything that says there's something 360 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: physically wrong with Jared Goff. So yeah, I do know 361 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: this when when we evaluate quarterbacks in the offseason, just 362 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: having fun getting ready, you know, we're filling time. Yeah, 363 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: either before or after the drab, before or after minicamp, 364 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: what have you. And we're talking about what makes a 365 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: league quarterbacks elite. Well, I think Jared is good. I 366 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: think he's on his way to elite. I think he's 367 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: been on a good role, but dealing with whether there 368 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: is going to be something he has to get over 369 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: that will that will be a ceiling for him until 370 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: he crosses that barrier into elite. But the other thing 371 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: that makes even the best quarterbacks average or the average 372 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks worse is pressure. When you're getting racked around, when 373 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: you lose confidence in protection, when you think that they're 374 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: going to get to you on every single play. Well, 375 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: that makes you rush throws, that makes you bail on 376 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: routes or bail on plays early. That's anybody in the 377 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: National Football League. So when you say it's foreign to us, 378 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: I guess we haven't seen it since McVeigh has been here. 379 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: But if you just look throughout the history of the league, 380 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: every quarterback looks bad when he's picking himself up after 381 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: every single play. That's absolutely true. And that's the other 382 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: thing about the offense right now. I think the offensive 383 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: line has not been playing as we are accustomed to 384 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: seeing it play over the last couple of games. You know, 385 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: Jared Goff has been hit. As you said, I mean 386 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: we just mentioned five secs and five sex are not 387 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: just necessarily on the offensive line. However, I think that 388 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: there are times when, I mean you just mentioned it. 389 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Rob Havenstein gets beat on that first third down by 390 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, and Khalil Mack one of the best defensive 391 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: players in the league. So those are the kinds of 392 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: things that are going to happen. But at the same time, 393 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: when you've got a guy that just keeps getting pressured 394 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: like that, it does some ways fall on the guy's 395 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: up front right to make sure that doesn't happen anymore. Well, 396 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: just think of it from our perspective from Rams fans. 397 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: When Aaron Donald does something superhuman, it just gives everybody 398 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: a lift. Oh yes, everybody. And when it happens early, 399 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: you feel like, Okay, we've got the best guy on 400 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: the field. And that's how the Rams play well. Khalil 401 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Mack makes his presence known early. Well, that sends a 402 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: message to the Rams, that sends a message to the 403 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: rest of the defense and to the rest of the 404 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: Bears offense. Hey, look we've got somebody they can't block early, 405 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: so we can take chances here. We can feel confident 406 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: doing X, Y and Z. So you know, And I 407 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: wish I can say you can't put it all on 408 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: the line, but I mean that wouldn't be truthful. I mean, 409 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: when you look at the guys that got pressure and 410 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: you look at the guys that did get sacks, where 411 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: are they coming from? And most of these most of 412 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: these guys are not considered pass rushers. I mean, most 413 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: of these guys are considered I hate to say the word, 414 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: but run thugs. They sit in the middle of they 415 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: clog up and they stop the run. I mean these 416 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: guys were two three yards up the field or swarming 417 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: over the top of Jared Goff on certain plays. So yeah, 418 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: I wish that you can protect the the guys that 419 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: we like on the old line a little bit better. 420 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: But why it's obvious it was on Sunday night. Everybody 421 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: saw it. That's true. Yeah, you have to be honest 422 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: with it. No, I think that's at this point in 423 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: the season in December. You have to be honest about 424 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: your evaluation and about how you played well. And I 425 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: think that's why Sean McVeigh was saying what he said, 426 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: you know to the media. Then you know, these guys 427 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: that we were accustomed to seeing play at extremely high 428 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: levels are doing things that are uncharacteristic. I mean like 429 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: Whitworth getting two false star penalties like that that you 430 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: don't see how happen. I mean Austin Blythe who has 431 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: played at an extremely high level this year, he's getting 432 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: knocked back into the end zone. You mentioned John Sullivan too. 433 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean those guys we're getting knocked back. That's why 434 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: that safety happened with Jared Goff in early in the 435 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: third course. Yeah, Yeah, I was standing in the end 436 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: zone when that happened, and like I went to protect 437 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: myself because I thought he was flying back to me 438 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: and I was like twenty five yards away, that's how 439 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: fast he got in there. Yeah, I thought it was 440 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: a miss block. But no, I mean, he just absolutely 441 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: won upfront. So you know, look, I've heard a lot 442 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: people have asked me, is this a blueprint? Have you have? 443 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: The Bears showed the rest of the league a blueprint 444 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: on how to beat the Rams. Sure you can say, 445 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: let's use the Bears scheme against the Rams, But do 446 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: you have the same horses? Do you have the same 447 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: guys that they have? Probably not, so, I mean, and look, 448 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna get better from this. The Rams are. They're 449 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna take this. They're gonna take this loss 450 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: and get better from it. So if you want to 451 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: bring the same sort of approach next week, I doubt 452 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: if it works, you're gonna have some success. But I 453 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: doubt if it works again because you don't have the 454 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: same guys. And if it does, then I think it's 455 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: right to start doubting a lot. If you see the 456 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: same game plan and the same sort of performance. Two 457 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: or three weeks in a row out of the same 458 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: group of guys. That's just the way the league is. 459 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: We keep saying, you get paid in this league to win. Yeah, 460 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: losses get you fired, period. Yes, Jimmy's and Joe's not 461 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: necessarily X as an aerason, I think that not all 462 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: teams have that um sort of based off like the 463 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: game plan thing. Do you think that it's time for 464 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: the Rams to start using more personnel groupings than eleven 465 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: personnel offense? Funny, I saw a buddy of mine that 466 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: I played with and he's coaching in college right now. 467 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: He's actually on his way down to the playoffs, and 468 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: we were talking about this offense and it's out of 469 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: eleven personnel mainly, yes, percent of the time it's out 470 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of eleven personnel. And he scratched his head because he 471 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: thinks it limits you. So I'm sitting there, I'm like, 472 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: they're sitting on eleven wins, so it must work. But 473 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I don't want to. I wouldn't want 474 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: to scrap everything I'm doing just for one loss, no 475 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: matter how punishing or how bad it looked, right, because 476 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: this is the same offense that has what netted you 477 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: twenty two wins in two seasons. Yes, So I'm not 478 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: going to get too far away from it or say 479 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: it's not working anymore. But I think it was obvious 480 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: that Chicago drew a beat on what you were trying 481 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: to do and took a lot of things away from you. Yes, absolutely, 482 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: and that's partially because they were able to stay in 483 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: their base personnel and that one. Then I bring this 484 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: up because you know, when you're talking about, you know, 485 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: a blueplant to stop the Rams, I don't think everybody 486 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: has the horses really to stay in their base personnel 487 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: against the Rams eleven personnel because we saw, you know, 488 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: when the Rams would do the vikings. I should say 489 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: they kind of tried to do something like that when 490 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: the Rams played them on Thursday Night Football back in 491 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: Week four. And then what did Jared Goff do but 492 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: take advantage of all the matchup nightmares that the offense presented. 493 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, when you have Cooper Cup on a linebacker, 494 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't work out for you very well. But I 495 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: think this is the first time we saw that they 496 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: had mismatches guys you just couldn't block. Yes, yes, I 497 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: mean I think any offense can live with maybe one 498 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: guy that's above being blocked like a Khalil Mack. You 499 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: can deal with one Maverick, but when you get two 500 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: or three beats up front, I don't care who you are. 501 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: I don't care if you have the nineteen ninety five 502 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. If you have two guys up front that 503 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: just refuse to be blocked and are just disrupting everything, 504 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a tough time moving the football. Well, look, 505 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: we've always seen that. I mean, think about the two 506 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 1: thousand and seven Patriots that got beat by the two 507 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: thousand and seven Giants, which you just brought up, I 508 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: mean wildcard teams right like though, That's what they were 509 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: able to do. And you can bring pressure with four 510 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: or even sometimes with five and you overwhelm guys in 511 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: the backfield. That's where that's going to, you know, mess 512 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: things up. But no doubt, I just I wonder about 513 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: that with the different personnel groupings, because I don't necessarily 514 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: see different teams, defenses, different defenses on different teams being 515 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: able to stop the rams like this like the Bears 516 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: were able to. But in some ways, because Cooper Cup 517 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: is out, you don't have that guy who's as good 518 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: at rum blocking and being in the backfield that you 519 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: used to. And I mean no disrespect to Robert Woods 520 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: when I say that, or Josh Reynolds, but Cooper Cup 521 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: has a special ability back there and you don't have 522 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: it anymore. I'm not sure how much he helps you 523 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: on that on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, he blocks, 524 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: but he's not blocking, he's not pass protecting. No, I know, yeah, yeah, 525 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much that helps. So I mean, 526 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: look that pocket collapse in a hurry, yes, you know. 527 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: And then when they did decide to bring pressure, some 528 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: of that was getting with Scott free to the quarterback, 529 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: so you have to dump it quick. And then they 530 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: were doing the smart thing in the secondary. They were 531 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: dropping back with eyes on quarterback and then getting in 532 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: throwing lines and making big plays on the football. The 533 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: Rams did the same thing on defense. They took the 534 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: ball back and gave it to the offense. It's just 535 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: the Rams kept giving it right back, so you had 536 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to match what they were doing defensive, and they made 537 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: one or two more plays than you did. Yes, So 538 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: as as great as the Rams played, or if you 539 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: think they played well enough to win, well, okay, I 540 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: mean I'm sure that's a fan thinking, but you have 541 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: to keep them out of the box in that situation 542 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: when your team isn't scoring, they can't score, Yes, and 543 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: one touchdown is enough to beat you, even if it's 544 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: on a fluke. Tackle eligible again, yeah, tackle eligible with 545 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of defensive linemen also eligible, and then who's 546 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: eligible and then that's how Yeah, theive I mean, look, 547 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: they you have to give them a whole lot of credit. 548 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: There was a whole little the game within the game, 549 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: the game, the little game within the game between the 550 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: head coaches with the timeouts, they were on top of you. 551 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: They put pressure on you. Usually the Rams, you can, 552 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: and I hate to say this about any other professional team, 553 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: but the Rams appeared to be the smarter team, the 554 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: team that seemed to have something up their sleeve. Well, 555 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: this time it seemed like Chicago had it. Yeah, they 556 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: were ready to play, and they matched you and pretty 557 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: much everything move or move on the board. And then 558 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: they were beating you physically. Yes, that comes down to 559 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: an l That comes down to a win for them 560 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: and a loss for you. And I think when you 561 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: talk about the physicality thing, that was definitely true. Yeah, 562 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. But before we move on to more defense, 563 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: I do want to mention Robert Wood's going over a 564 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving one little positive thing from the offense 565 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: in this particular game. But I thought it was cool 566 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: that that happened. And you know, that means that the 567 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: Rams now have two one thousand yards receivers for the 568 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: first time since two thousand and six. And this is 569 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: also the first time that Sean McVay has had a 570 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: one thousand yard receiver in his offense. In terms of 571 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, I should say, because we didn't have one 572 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: last year, which is kind of interesting given how good 573 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: that offense was. But to have two in Cooks and 574 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: in Woods, I think that's pretty meaningful. Oh, no doubt, 575 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: tough guys. It's good for them, it's great for the resume, 576 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: great for everybody's resume. You would like to celebrate that 577 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: with a victory, Yes, it seems a little hollow, right, 578 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: It definitely do. So maybe if we get to Sunday 579 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: or get to the next between the horns, um, maybe 580 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: we could celebrate that a little bit more. But right now, 581 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it seems like Blake Bortles, you know, it 582 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: really does. I mean, you know, he throws through three 583 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: hundred yards and the loss great, So what you know 584 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, I hear you, Yeah, I hear you. Um, 585 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: but it is it's you know, it's funny they say, 586 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: since the Rams didn't even have a seven hundred yard 587 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: receiver from two thousand and nine to twenty sixteen, Well 588 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: so awesome, yes, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Well, I mean that 589 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: speaks to that era. I know, run more than this one, 590 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, how did you 591 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: get through that many years without a thousand, one thousand 592 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: yard receiver? You did have was Kenny Brittain. Yeah, and 593 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: some people like their football cards the years that they 594 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: were here. When it says wide receiver Rams, it needs 595 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: to be deleted. Seriously. Yeah, let's just forget about all that. 596 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: If that's the case. Yes, but let's talk more about 597 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: the defense, because this is a unit that now has 598 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: ten takeaways in the last three games, five against Kansas City, 599 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: two against Detroit, and than three in this game against Chicago. 600 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: It seems like at least they are ramping things up 601 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: for the postseason in the right way. Yeah. I mean, look, 602 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: we knew that Trubetsky was gonna struggle. This was his 603 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: first game back coming back off injury, so he floated 604 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: a few. He you know, tips and overthrows should be 605 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: the defenses, and they were so I mean, and that's 606 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: not to take away anything they did, but you know, 607 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: you have to do more. It sounds crazy, just like 608 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: going back to Kansas City when they played here on 609 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: that Monday night game when they just it was a 610 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: scoring fest. If they score, you have to score more. Well, 611 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: if they take the ball away, you have to take 612 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: it away more. If they keep you out of the 613 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: end zone, you've definitely got to keep them out of 614 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: the end zone. So you know, you'd like to go away, 615 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: smile and say the defense, the defense played well, played good. 616 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: But there's some good numbers in there, but ultimately they 617 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: did break. They got in the end zone. No matter 618 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: how they got it there, or how many takeaways that 619 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: the Rams offense gave them or a field position, it 620 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: does not matter. Your job is to keep them out 621 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: of the end zone. And that just didn't happen. So 622 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: there's some good performances, there's some things that you can 623 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: walk away with and smile about, but ultimately, I mean, 624 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that smile turns into 625 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: a frown when you look at the win loss. Absolutely, 626 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: And that's the way the defensive players are talking in 627 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean, like, it's interesting, always interesting 628 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: to me to see, you know how media people kind 629 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: of react to different things, Right, So when you're in 630 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: the locker room and you you're talking to a player 631 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, you it's such a good game, but 632 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we lost, you know what I mean, 633 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Like nobody really wants to talk about how then individual 634 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: played well when the team loses. So it's interesting, Like 635 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: I always just sort of cycle through that because I 636 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: don't know that and I don't mean this as a 637 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: way to attack like any of the regular beat writers, 638 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: because that's that's not who I'm talking about. But it's 639 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: like those guys that show up just on game day 640 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: and are like, you had a good game today, and 641 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: then like the player looks at them funny, and it's like, 642 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: do you realize what the score was at the end 643 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: of this game? Marcus Joiner at the end of Monday night? 644 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: How do you how do you like that? Against Kansas City? Yeah? 645 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: What do you think of this game? I think it 646 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: was disgusting yes, but you got the win. It was disgusting. 647 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: We gave up some many points, right, I get it, 648 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: And I look, I've been on teams and have watched 649 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: teams like this that go through sixteen straight weeks of 650 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: games like that to where their defense does everything they 651 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: can to keep the team in the game and ultimately 652 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: they give up one play and lose. But the one 653 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: thing you can't do as a defense right now is 654 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: point fingers. Many times this offense has bailed you out, 655 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a lot, so, especially this year. Absolutely. So Look, 656 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: it's a team deal. No one should be happy no 657 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: matter how you play. I don't care if you had 658 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: nine sacks and five picks one guy. You didn't play 659 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: well enough as a unit to win the game. So 660 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: you can't just say, well, it's their fault we didn't win. No, 661 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: it's everyone, everyone on the field, including the Bears. They 662 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: deserve the win and you deserve to take the loss. Right, 663 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: And that's the that's the attitude that was coming from 664 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams after that particular game, especially like 665 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 1: you got guys like Aaron Donald saying exactly that, you 666 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: know that we didn't we didn't win the game. So 667 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I have to do more. And it's funny when you 668 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: hear somebody like Donalds say that. But it's also funny 669 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: when you see a stat line where Donald has two 670 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: tackles and one quarterback hit and that. Really, you haven't 671 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: seen Donald erased from a game much this year at all. 672 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: But I don't want to say he was erased, because 673 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: I watching it back, there were times where he influenced 674 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: and affected things. Yeah, they accepted the challenge upfront. I 675 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: gotta give them credit. Yeah they did. They did bring 676 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: the double team. They're not stupid. Yeah they're not dumb. 677 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: They did bring the double to Donald, and they forced 678 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: other guys to make plays, and and just the way 679 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: the game was going with takeaways and quick changes and 680 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. It's kind of hard to 681 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: get into a flow as a defender. So when you 682 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: have to constantly stop and start, stop and start, stop 683 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: and start as a play callers and as a player, 684 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: especially a guy that good, you just can't really get 685 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: into a rhythm of what you want to do and 686 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: what that guy is doing in front of you. So 687 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: it winds up being a frustrating day. And then when 688 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: you do, you know, have them, have them in a position, 689 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: or you feel comfortable enough to where you can take 690 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: some chances. They make play on you and it just 691 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: takes all the wind out of your sales again. And 692 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: that's I think just what we saw time and again 693 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: from that Chicago offense versus this defense. Look, it was 694 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: interesting in the early on in the game, I thought, 695 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: especially where you had some sort of different things from 696 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: the Rams defense. You know, you're putting Sue on the 697 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: outside a little bit more, and I think even in 698 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: a couple plays that kind of flipped. This might have 699 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: been the second half, but they flipped like Donald and Fowler. 700 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: We had Fouler rushing on the inside and then Donald 701 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: was rushing on the outside too, just trying to get 702 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Donald into more one on one situations. You've seen like 703 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: heist movies before. Yeah, oh my god, what was that 704 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: movie called Out of Sight? I have not seen that. Okay, 705 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: it's a George Clooney movie where it's a bunch of 706 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: bumbling idiots and they get into the house and they 707 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 1: actually find the safe that they're looking for and they 708 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: have no idea how to crack it. So next thing 709 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, they start shooting at it, you know, and 710 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: closed environed I mean, just a bunch of idiots, right, 711 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: But that's that's that's a defensive line and a group 712 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: just trying to do anything to crack that safe. Right, 713 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Let's flip here, let's try this because they're taking me 714 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: away here, so let's try this to get to Churbitsky. 715 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: But you know, for the most part, when you did 716 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: get pressure, you left the back door open. You left 717 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: the guy the a gap opened and he slipped through 718 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: and he you know, it goes from a good rush 719 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: to you know, now your way out of position and 720 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: there's no chance to get him down before he picks 721 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: up the first down. Now you're out there again. So 722 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, just little things here or there can really 723 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: derail a great day. If you somehow could close the 724 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: door on him early in the game, you probably had 725 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: three or more three or four or three and outs, 726 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: which would have given you the ball back or at 727 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: least given you a chance at a return. But as 728 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: it stood, he picked up first downs and they won 729 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: time of possession by over ten minutes. Yeah. A lot 730 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: of that, I mean, that's takeaways. A lot of that 731 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: had to do with him scrambling for first downs and 732 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: then running the football. Well, yeah, they ran for one 733 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four rushing yards, So I mean it 734 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: also it raises the question once again, like what's up 735 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: with the Rams run defense, because you've seen these games 736 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: and more games where they are allowing so many yards rushing. 737 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: And I think when you play, when you only give 738 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: up fifteen points, yes, that makes it more winning football 739 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: defensively only gave up thirteen because that's safety. But at 740 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: the same time, it's hard not to be concerned. I 741 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: think when you look at the rushing defense right now, 742 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: no doubt, and it's it's it's both ways. It's traditional 743 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, your grandfather's run plays that are picking up 744 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: yards in the middle, and then for the most part, 745 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: these RPOs, these run pass options, with these these dual 746 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: threat quarterbacks are just giving the Rams hell right now. 747 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: Especially on the outside, there's there's issues there. Um, it's 748 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: tough for any outside guy to have to play cutback 749 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: against a professional running back and then have to defend 750 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can get out on the perimeter in 751 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: a blank Yes, uh, it's it's really really difficult. So 752 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, you know, these quarterbacks have 753 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 1: been mobile, they've been really good throwing the football, and 754 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: I think that really shows up in the rushing yards column. 755 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: You know, there's so much that you have to do 756 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: to slow play it, just to make sure you keep 757 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: these guys in front of you, and when you slow play, 758 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: they're just steadily moving the football down the field. When 759 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: you look at the rams and the way they've given 760 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: up rushing yards this year, I mean, your worst games 761 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: have been against the teams with the mobile quarterbacks. Of course, 762 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: there's two games to the Seahawks where the last one 763 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: you gave up two hundred and seventy three yards rushing, 764 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: then the first one you gave up one hundred and ninety. 765 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: But then also the Bears, now when we talk about 766 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: True Bisky, he's maybe the best running quarterback in the 767 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: league right now, with apologies to Russell Wilson, but they 768 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: get one hundred and ninety four yards rushing too. So 769 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: that I think would be the trend, no doubt. You know, 770 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: going back to training camp, we tried to dissect what 771 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: might be the issues for this defense, and we said 772 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: tight ends. When we stayed on tight ends, tight ends 773 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: could be an issue, and I think tight ends have 774 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: been an issue. The other thing we should have said 775 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: that we maybe should have looked a little deeper on 776 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: was these dual threat quarterbacks with the outside backers that 777 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: you have right Eventually, you know when you have Sue 778 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: Donald Brockers in the middle, well you're going to attack 779 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: on the outside, especially with a mobile quarterback. Well, outside 780 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: linebacker has been an issue. I think they fixed part 781 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: of it, at least the pass rush side with Hour, 782 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: but you know the issues with stopping the run from there. 783 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: I will continue and I'm not sure there's much you 784 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: can do if you're Wade Phillips. It is what it is. Um. 785 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: Maybe some guys just all of a sudden start to 786 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: play better. I thought you saw a little bit more 787 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: out of Samson Ebcomb, especially after that Monday night performance. 788 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: You need to see more of that. That guy needs 789 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: to show up again. But at some point, you know, 790 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: especially you've got Carson Wentz coming up now, a guy 791 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: that can do it again if he does play. Yes, 792 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, a guy that can really hurt you with 793 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: his legs. I don't think this is going to be 794 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: a one trick pony or a one time phenomenon. I 795 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: think this is going to be an issue from here 796 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: on out. From whatever team you play, they're gonna try 797 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: to test you on those edges, no question. And I mean, 798 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, you look at the way the playoff field 799 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: is shaping up. Look, Drew Brees is not the most 800 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: mobile quarterback. And no, but they got the other guy 801 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: to run it right exactly. They've got Kamara, They've got Ingram, 802 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: They've got all kinds of people. They've got Taysom Hill. 803 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, they like they know how to do these 804 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: things where they can on the ball effectively. The Bears 805 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: they're in the playoff position. Russell Wilson's in playoff position. 806 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott another guy that can run the ball. So again, 807 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: like yes, like you said, this is a concern and 808 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: they've got to be able to do something in order 809 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: to combat it. Yeah, And it's you know, I wish 810 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: it's a sychematic thing. It's something that you can go 811 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: fixed by sitting in meetings. But this might be a 812 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: cattle prod situation. Might be you're gonna have to up 813 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: the voltage on the guys that you have to get 814 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: them to play better. You know. The issue against the 815 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears were their defensive ends. I thought they played 816 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: fantastic football. They refused to trade one for one. They 817 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: would not be blocked by one guy, and they just 818 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: major life hell on the pass and you could tell 819 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: they were ready for screens, and they had fast linebackers 820 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: that can get over the top, so they were forcing 821 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: you to throw the football. So that's the type of 822 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: performance you need. Now you don't have Khalil Mack, but 823 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: you need that same type of intensity on the outside 824 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: to combat what you're about to see for the rest 825 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: of the year. Yes, no matter what regular season or postseason. Yeah, 826 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: And I think part of that is having Dante Fowler 827 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: out there for as much as he's been out there. 828 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, you deactivate Matt Longacre again and it seems 829 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: like Matt, I don't want to say Matt long you're 830 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: just falling out of favor. But you know what, he 831 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: clearly does not have the ability I think that a 832 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: Dante Fowler has, and that's why fowlers starting, so why 833 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: they traded for Fowler, and it's why followers out there 834 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: for as many snaps as he is. So it's just 835 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: the way you gotta look at it. Man, Look, I 836 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: think you're auditioning. I don't care who it is for Fowler, No, 837 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: I don't care who it is on the outside. Okay, 838 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: you just have to make that position better. You have 839 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: to make that situation not a situation on your defense. Yeah. So, 840 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: whether it takes lining up so there, or maybe it 841 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: takes Wade Phillips and the defense to get a little 842 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: more creative on the outside, takes some more chances on 843 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: the outside, Maybe bring more pressure on the outside and 844 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: leave your corners one on one. Who knows. There are 845 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: ways to overcome, you know, outside issues, whatever you're having 846 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: issues with, there are ways you can scam bractically help 847 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: those areas. But you're going to be sacrificing others, now, 848 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 1: can you afford to sacrifice those other areas to cover 849 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: up what you're doing on the outside. Who knows. We'll see, Yeah, 850 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: we'll see. In the first chance that the Rams are 851 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: going to see against is the Philadelphia Eagles this weekend. 852 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Carson Wentz, And at this point as 853 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: we're recording this and it's now eleven forty two am 854 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, it seems like Carson Wentz might not be 855 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: out there based on the reports you know now that 856 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: we've got of this back injury that he has, and 857 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: that Apparently we've sort of flared up earlier in the 858 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: season and he missed some Wednesday practices. Was reading this 859 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: out of Philadelphia reporters, but then he was I think 860 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: he was limited a couple of Wednesdays, but then he 861 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: never missed a game for it or anything. Right, So 862 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: now apparently it is bad enough that it could keep 863 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: him out of this game against the La Rams on Sunday. 864 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: We'll see. I keep checking the obits. He's not in there, 865 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: so you know if he's if he's healthy or not healthy. 866 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: If he's alive, he's going to play. Would you consider 867 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: him a franchise quarterback? Absolutely? I think you have to 868 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: write at this point, so there's pressure on him to 869 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: play even if he misses practice. So until they say 870 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: he's out, until they line up without him, assume he's 871 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: going to be there and assume you're going to have 872 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: the same sort of problems with a healthy Carson Wentz. 873 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: Is that tough when you you basically have to prepare 874 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: for two quarterbacks now, right? I mean being that you 875 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: got to expect that Carson Wentz is going to be 876 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: out there, but you know that Nick Foles is right 877 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: there and he's going to be ready to play. Well. 878 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a little overblown. I mean, maybe like 879 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: Baltimore would be a situation to where you have to 880 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: prepare for two separate styles of quarterbacks. Sure, yeah, I 881 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: mean you have one that can run all over the 882 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: place and one who's a traditional drop back guy. But 883 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think Nick Foles has proved that he 884 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: can move the football just as well as Carson Wentz 885 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: in certain situations when it matters most, when he wants 886 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: to play, he's as good as anybody. So and I 887 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: don't think the offense changes as much. Just like back 888 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: in Chicago when you were if you were concerned about 889 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: out Mitch Trubisky not playing well, if Chase Daniel we're 890 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: lining up under center, it's the same exact offense, right, 891 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: just little tweaks here or there. So it doesn't matter. 892 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: M You're preparing to play against whatever quarterback they throw 893 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: against you. If you play your technique and your scheme 894 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: better than theirs, if you win as much as the 895 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: Bears won upfront, it doesn't matter who's back there. Yeah, 896 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: it could be the son of Michael Vick and Joe Montana. 897 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're winning, If you're winning up front, 898 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: the son of Michael Yeah. Yeah, the fastest guy in 899 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: the world and the most cerebral quarterback. I got what 900 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: you're going with that. That was good. If you did 901 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: you go back and watch the last year's game against 902 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: Eagles at all, uh, not all of it. Yeah, I 903 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: did sort of the same, you know, because it was 904 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: just it was one of those games where it goes 905 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth, and then the Rams 906 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: really kind of looked like they were in position to win, 907 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: and especially when Carson Wentz went out with that unfortunate 908 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: ACL injury and then Nick Foles comes in and then oh, 909 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: by the way, they come back and then they win 910 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: that game anyway, and I think that it was one 911 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: of the better games of the year last year in 912 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: the NFL season, And it's it's sort of weird how 913 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: these two teams are just on different tracks. And you know, 914 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 1: the NFL is such a year to year league that 915 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: you've got the defending champion Philadelphia Eagles and they've had 916 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: so many injuries this year that they're really just not 917 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: the same team that they were in twenty seventeen. And 918 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: that's just the way it is now. It was a 919 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: punishing affair, you know it was. It was one of 920 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: those you know, let's see if we can out hit 921 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: the other. And I mean they're like, they lost their 922 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: quarterback in that game, but they got the victory, So 923 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: there's some get back to be had this Sunday. I'm 924 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: sure that the guys that were here, that are on 925 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: this roster, that were here last year, that one left 926 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: a bad taste in their mouth because they were they 927 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: were there, so I don't care, and you probably don't 928 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: care what they're doing or how they feel about it. 929 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: Just the laundry itself is enough to get you fired 930 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: up because the last time it felt to you like 931 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: the better team didn't win. And I'm sure they're thinking 932 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: on the other side, the better team did win. So 933 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: the only way to prove that is to match them 934 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: up again. And thank god it's here so you have 935 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: another shot to do it again. So it doesn't matter 936 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: what happened in Chicago, doesn't matter if Philadelphia won last week, 937 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: if they're back from the dead, It only matters what 938 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: you do in the coliseum on Sunday, right, and that's 939 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest thing. I Mean, the Rams have 940 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 1: done very well at home this year, and their last 941 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: home game, of course, was that crazy game against Kansas City, 942 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: which you end up winning fifty four fifty one. And 943 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: after two games on the road where you had to 944 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: go to two different time zones, you played one early game, 945 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: you play it a Sunday night game. I think there 946 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: is something to the fact that you're going to be 947 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: home and you're going to play another primetime game in 948 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, which is kind of cool. Two straight primetime 949 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: games in a row under these lights. There should be 950 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: some home cooking in this right As far as what 951 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: as far as getting back to being in that routine 952 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: of just being at home, well, the only cooking I 953 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: care about is Jared Goff cooking, like playing, like lighting 954 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: it up. You are a California boy. You're going to 955 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: be in Cali or in the sun for pretty much 956 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: the rest of the year if you do it right, 957 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: for the rest of the postseason, hopefully. So I'm looking 958 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: forward to him writing some wrongs and reminding people of 959 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 1: what you thought about him back in September October, because 960 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: those same system quarterbacks, those boo who I don't like 961 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, they're starting to circle again. They are they 962 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: are and the only way to get them off your 963 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: back and to shoot them away is by touchdown passes. 964 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 1: So he's a competitive guy. I'm looking forward to seeing 965 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: that same guy on Sunday. It's interesting when you talk 966 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: about the system quarterback thing, because I don't know if 967 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: he truly or a system quarterback, wouldn't he still like 968 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,959 Speaker 1: those passes just still magically be going into people's arms 969 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: if it were only the system and not the quarterback 970 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: that has to executed. Like the whole conversation, like it's 971 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: sort of well, it's funny. I mean, like, you know, 972 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: systems and the definition of system and systems can be broken. 973 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: And it's not just that guy. It's you know, if 974 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: you have guys up front that are constantly just destroying everything, 975 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: there is no system. There isn't you know. They're knocking 976 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: people off routes, they're getting pressure on the quarterback, they're 977 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: taking away screens, they're they're being smart, they're out hitting you. 978 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: It don't matter if you're running. The best system in 979 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: the world is just being smashed in totality out there, 980 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: So you know, whatever, no matter, Look, Jared Goff back 981 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: in southern California, you're expecting an MVP type performance out 982 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: of him. The the the weather or the the environment 983 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: should be a non factor, which means he should light 984 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: it up. Yes, any better light it up. I think 985 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 1: this is a This is a game where we see 986 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: who the Rams are, right because in the Sean McVay era, 987 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: they have not lost back to back games in the 988 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: regular season. They do it last year and obviously they've 989 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: only lost two this year. So if there's ever a 990 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: time to get back on track, ay, it's after a loss, 991 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: but b it's when you're coming home and you're playing 992 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: under the lights Sunday night football once again. You know. Well, 993 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean I agree and disagree on one note. I 994 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: know what they are. They're good. It's it's what they 995 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: have left, is my question. Yeah, I mean, and that's 996 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: everybody down the stretch. This ain't easy. Everybody's beat up. 997 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's beat up right now. So it's what you have left. Um, 998 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you when you get to the last 999 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: four miles of a marathon, all those guys are hurting. 1000 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's just now it's desire. Can can 1001 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 1: I outpace the next guy who I know is hurting 1002 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: as bad as me? Can I take it longer than him. 1003 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: So you know you're gonna have to go down to 1004 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: the wire against Philadelphia, and pretty much you're gonna have 1005 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: to go down to the wire against everybody you play. 1006 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's what do you have left from this point? 1007 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: Even if you don't win another game from here on 1008 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: out in the regular season, you're still a pretty good 1009 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: football team. You're playoffs, you got eleven wins, you are 1010 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: using a playoff game exactly at least, So what do 1011 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: you have left from this point is what I'm looking for, 1012 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: right And the Rams have got to be able to 1013 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: show and prove that both offensively and I think defensively too, 1014 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: because you know what, they played well defense instantly, not 1015 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: well enough to win that last one, but they have 1016 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: to keep ramping things up in terms of the postseason. 1017 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: I think absolutely. Um It's funny, man, I can remember 1018 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: just being completely and totally numb physically way back when 1019 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: at this point in the year, any year, any more, 1020 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: just any year. I mean, the physical is just everybody 1021 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: feels the same way you do. It's just how do 1022 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: you deal with it? Can you overcome it? Can you 1023 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: overcome it for one more snap, one more game, one 1024 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: more month, how do you deal with it? You just 1025 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: have to. I mean, it's that guy in front of you. 1026 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, defeat your man. Is this guy going to 1027 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: be better than me on this play? Yes or no? 1028 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: Because if he does, if he beats me, then we 1029 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: lose the game on every single snap. That's how it's 1030 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: going to be. That's what postseason football is. And we 1031 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: said this last week, playoffs start. Now you're jockeying for position. 1032 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: So just because it's not considered the postseason, well yeah, 1033 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: every single snap matter. Now. Every every inch you give 1034 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,879 Speaker 1: is an inch they get and an inch you give. 1035 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: It's it's it takes you that much farther away from winning. 1036 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: When you look at the Eagles, um and we'll so 1037 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 1: I guess on defense first, you know, besides Fletcher Cox, 1038 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: what stands out to you about that unit? Well, they're 1039 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: defending champs. Yeah, that's number one. Fletcher Cox is always 1040 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: going to be an issue, you know, First and foremost, 1041 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 1: it's how they run their offense. And if Carson Wentz 1042 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: is playing, because how many options and problems he presents. 1043 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: Because he's good enough to beat you from the pocket, 1044 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: he's good enough to beat you in a down and 1045 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: dirty ugly football game, just like you saw in Chicago. 1046 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: And he can beat you with his legs. Yeah, there 1047 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: was a reason that it was Jared Goff and Carson 1048 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: Wentz one and two in the draft. He's just as 1049 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: good as Jared Goff. He can beat you just as 1050 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: easily as anybody can in the National Football League. So 1051 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: on that side of the football, it's him. I can 1052 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: care less about the injury report. On the other side 1053 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: of the football, Chris Long is a problem. Yeah, he 1054 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: always is, we know it. Yeah, and Fletcher Cox is 1055 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: definitely an issue. But that defensive line, there's so many 1056 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: names on that squad now they're one two deep. Is unbelievable. 1057 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many All Pros and 1058 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls they have on that defensive line, and some 1059 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: of those guys are coming off the bench, right, Yeah, 1060 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: that's an issue. They can just roll waves and waves 1061 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 1: and waves of pass wrestlers at you. And that's I mean, obviously, 1062 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: given what happened last week, and I think we'd say 1063 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 1: the week before, that is probably the rams biggest concern. Yes, 1064 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: and look, they're defending champs and there's multiple are there 1065 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 1: multiple champions or at least there are other champions on 1066 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: the other side of the football on defense, one that 1067 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: have won before, that have been through this before. They 1068 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: understand this game at the highest level. This is a 1069 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: tough matchup, regardless of record, Yes, regardless of record, and 1070 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: regardless of what's been going on the last few weeks. Yeah, 1071 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,240 Speaker 1: regardless of who's that quarterback. I agree with you, DeMarco. 1072 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be a tough matchup and 1073 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: it's one that the Rams have got to be prepared 1074 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: for and they getting ready for when they come out 1075 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: on Sunday night. And that crazy wild card Michael Bennett 1076 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: is back again. Yeah, he can't get rid of him. 1077 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: He's like bad luggage exactly. Yeah, all right, well I 1078 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: think we're at fifty minutes. Man. That was a quick 1079 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: fifty Yeah. Not fun, I know, not fun, but it 1080 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: is what it is. And you have to be honest 1081 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: from this point. Look for people that are jumping ship already. 1082 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,479 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say to you. I don't 1083 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: but one loss or a loss like that is not 1084 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: enough to say will change everything you're doing. Yeah, I 1085 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: think that's the wrong thing to do. Absolutely, Yeah, just regroup, 1086 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: get better at what you're doing, because what you're doing 1087 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: when you're playing at your best is good enough. So 1088 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: let's hope you bring that game, that sort of attitude 1089 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: and that intensity to the Colosseum. I think you put 1090 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,359 Speaker 1: it better than I ever could have. So well with that, 1091 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: let's close the show with Between the Horns. Thank you 1092 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: everybody so much for listening for DeMarco far I'm Miles Simmons. 1093 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: We will see you Sunday at the Colosseum. That is 1094 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 1: a five twenty Pacific kickoff. If you're not going to 1095 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: be there, you can catch that game nationally on NBC. 1096 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time. M