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Speaker 2: My goodness, mistaken, best, relentless, refusing to give up.

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Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn?

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Speaker 3: Variables fair?

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Speaker 1: What is good? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 2: in Fantasy Labs, I am your host, Chris Raybond NFL.

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Speaker 2: Week three is here, and as always, I am joined

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Speaker 2: by one of the most accurate fantasy rankers in the game,

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Speaker 2: the oddsmaker Sean Kerner, numerous first place accuracy finishes at

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Speaker 2: Fantasy pro Shawn, it's week three.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling?

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Speaker 2: Are you panicking or overreacting? Right where you want to be?

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Speaker 2: How you feel about the season so far?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm right where I want to be.

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Speaker 4: Haven't been quite as lucky so far on player props,

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Speaker 4: But congrats to you on Ryan Miller touchdown. It's so

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Speaker 4: funny because I was in our discord when the actives

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Speaker 4: came out. I was on Nick Chubb over twelve and

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Speaker 4: but I digress. Damian Pierce was a healthy scratch and

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh shit, that helps, you know, chub out.

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Speaker 4: But Woody Marks is the huge benefactor of that, so

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Speaker 4: sneaky in like DFS showdown slates if you're like an

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Speaker 4: anytime touchdown freak like me and Raybond. And then you

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Speaker 4: had that push notification. I saw that you bet it

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Speaker 4: so and it was that half unit bet Raybond.

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Speaker 3: What the hell was that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I just have to differentiate from like

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Speaker 2: you know, I just don't want people going crazy. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I still won like thirteen fourteen units

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Speaker 3: No shit, yeah that's no. But your half unit is

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Speaker 4: He was thirty to one at FanDuel I got him

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Speaker 4: the hell is that? And I was saying, like everybody

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Speaker 4: But we're all loving it in the discord and yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I log him and Mark, so I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: It's part I actually I did personally, but yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: All right, Week three, Turner.

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Speaker 2: Man two games in, so it's kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Because it kind of a tough quarterback week, But I'm

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Speaker 3: Why are you surprise?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you took the guy that should be added

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Speaker 4: Carson Wentz here, who is available in one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: So Carson Wentz could be the next one up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just surprised because I actually liked the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have you know, Mac Jones, Jake Browning, they're

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Speaker 4: I think Browning is obviously it must add, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think Browning is He's proven to be one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of almost reminds me of what, Like,

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Speaker 2: Browning could end up being what we want Wentz to be,

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Speaker 1: But I actually think it's more likely Browning is just.

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Speaker 2: Because he's over eight, like right around eight yards an

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Speaker 2: he actually had enough attempts to qualify or you know,

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Speaker 2: So brown He's kind of got just a lot of

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Speaker 2: to what you've been waiting.

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Speaker 1: What a year? Oh yeah, do you running back?

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Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you Blake Quorum is still available

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Speaker 4: in ninety two percent of leagues.

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Speaker 1: I already don't know why.

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Speaker 4: A good game this week, he should be scooped up

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Speaker 4: in most formats because, like I've been saying, he's just

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Speaker 4: But Raybon we saw development this week. Kien Williams once

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Speaker 4: you had to do sacrificial Yeah, yeah, everybody has blake

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: All it takes is for me to put us currency

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Speaker 2: Remember coming into the year, the Falcons had one of

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Speaker 2: And it looks like Algier is gonna be kind of

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Speaker 2: William Cone is devising ways to kind of get him

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Speaker 2: being used more and more Diami Browns like Sutan's just

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot going on in this offense.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna continue to play well, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's why you see Etn playing well as well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a running back friendly offense

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Speaker 2: two and everywhere judgments too. JUDGNS is available still in

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Speaker 2: about forty percent weeks. I ended up losing to Jerome

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Speaker 2: Ford bet too, of course, but I did really Jakins

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Speaker 4: because I was originally on Samson under nine and a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like.

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Speaker 2: Samson has been so bad and so has Ford as

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Speaker 2: Runners that I hope that now that Judkins has caught

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Speaker 2: want to do it Ford, which is not use him

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Speaker 2: at all, and just you know, let Samson take all

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Speaker 2: the Nick Chubb, like we don't need this third back,

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Speaker 1: But hey, here we are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where do you have going back to your guy too?

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Speaker 4: Where do you have him ranked this week? Just because

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Speaker 4: I'm curious, I have him AREB forty but it seems

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Speaker 1: Five, I have him thirty five. Yeah, have them right

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Speaker 2: I want to be hind him just because I think

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Speaker 2: And I do think Jacksonville, like the returns are good,

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Speaker 2: They put up twenty six, but kind of we're able

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Speaker 2: kind of I don't know, I don't know what it's

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Speaker 1: That bigs we start that Bigsby preacy to start messed

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Speaker 1: everybody up. He knew that. And Evan Ingram's fifty eight

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think the big the Bigsby trade was massive,

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Speaker 4: but he's he's literally in that range of my favorite

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Speaker 4: now with Etn fully healthy playing of anaying So he's

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Speaker 4: kind of like a Jordan Mason, Zach Sharbin, and Tyler

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Speaker 4: But if you know, Etn misses time, he could be

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Speaker 4: If Etn slips up at some point and Tuton is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Etn, And it's not out of the question that

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Speaker 2: on like all right, yeah these that was just a

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Speaker 1: But Tutin.

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Speaker 2: I think the four thing with Tuton is that he's

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's some.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, next week we'll see Jesse.

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Speaker 1: He's getting to work. But yeah, it's been been a

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about wide receiver because you know, never should

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it's interesting kind of set up

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Speaker 4: wide receiver, like these guys could be solid wide receiver

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Speaker 4: fours on your bench. So more more evidence you got

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Speaker 4: a draft wide receivers early in your draft whenever you can.

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Speaker 4: But I digress. Troy Franklin kicks it off for me.

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Speaker 4: My man available on ninety six percent of the leagues.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be much much lower after this week because

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Speaker 4: you know, he kind of operated as the lead receiver

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Speaker 4: but right now the needle's pointing up. I have him

438
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Speaker 4: wide receiver forty nine. But if this continues, he could

439
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: easily crack you know, my top thirty six any given week.

440
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: So he's a guy that you know, we never know

441
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 4: what Sean Payton's gonna do week to week, but he

442
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 4: seems to have a stable role right now, So I

443
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 4: think Tory Franklin, you could do worse in deeper leagues.

444
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 3: But what were your thoughts on hit his usage this week?

445
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: Is he inside your top fifty, top forty five?

446
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 2: Yep, Uh, he's gonna be kind of borderline top fifty s.

447
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: So I was hiring him all preaches. I was talking

448
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: about how, you know, it was like him and Mims

449
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: kind of took that strangle hold with Vyway getting traded

450
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: and they you know, I.

451
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: Think people were gonna be kind of surprised that at Franklin.

452
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

453
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: But honestly, it is gonna be really tough with Gun

454
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 2: because the other thing I said was Sean Payton loves

455
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 2: to swap in different personnel and he loves to feature

456
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: different guys in a game plan each and every week.

457
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's really gonna be tough for me.

458
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: Just it's kind of like the Packers with with their

459
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Speaker 2: receivers last year, where you just kind of didn't know

460
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 2: if they would throw and then who would you know,

461
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: would it be Dobbs, what do you read?

462
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: Would it be Wicks? Wo to be Watson?

463
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: It's kind of setting up a little bit like that.

464
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Speaker 2: So what I would do is, yeah, let's let's grab

465
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Speaker 2: Franklin while he's hot, hope he.

466
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Speaker 1: Has another good game on your bench, and then try

467
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Speaker 1: to sell high.

468
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: That's that's all you can really do because I don't think,

469
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: you know, you could really be trusting any of these

470
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Speaker 2: Denver players. Uh maybe except uh Dobbas just because he's

471
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: kind of locked in the goal, but given that they're

472
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: still using three backs in the rotation. So yeah, yeah,

473
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: Denver is a team that I think is it's a

474
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 2: good overall offense, but they've built that up deliberately by

475
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: kind of spreading it around, which is not great for

476
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Speaker 2: us in fans.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree, that's why you know you got

478
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 4: Adam to see. But it could be like Marvin Mims

479
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 4: where you know, he had a good game and then

480
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,199
Speaker 4: another good game and another good game. Like these trends

481
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 4: can stick with these, you know, role players on Denver.

482
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 4: So that's what wide receiver. If you're adding somebody, you

483
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: kind of just need to invest in upside, and he

484
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 4: certainly has that. Although you know, I wouldn't just trust

485
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 4: him in her lineup this week, but worth an ad

486
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: in deeper leagues, and the other guy I think is

487
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: worth an AD in deeper leagues is Romeo Dobbs available

488
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: in eighty three percent of leagues. I mean, the Packers

489
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 4: wide receiver room is in complete disarray right now. They

490
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: just lost Jayden Reid for some time, so that's going

491
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 4: to open up things for everybody. But you know, Dobbs

492
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: is like the one state able constant for that room

493
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: right now. You know they're gonna be very run heavy,

494
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: especially just how good this defense looks.

495
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: But when Jordan Love drops out the pass.

496
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 4: He's just looking to make explosive plays right now, and

497
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: part of that is targeting Dobbs downfield, targeting Dobbs or

498
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: Craft in the end zone.

499
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: So Dobbs is getting those like critical targets.

500
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 4: So even though you know he's gonna be yeah, he's

501
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 4: my wide receiver forty eight on the week, I think

502
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: he does have a high ceiling more weeks than not.

503
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: So he's the kind of guy if you're in a

504
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: you know, pinch and you want a guy with upside,

505
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 4: I think you could do worse than Dobbs right now,

506
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 4: but he seems to at least have a stable role

507
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: in this you know, very vulnerable packers wide receiver room.

508
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would also mention if if somebody's like

509
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: dropped Golden or Golden is also kind of sitting their

510
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: house also by him, because uh, the roid injury actually,

511
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: like you said, it kind of stayed. It might stabilize

512
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: thing and what seems like disarray now, but it could

513
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: just be Dobbs, Golden and and Wicks ever on every

514
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: like three receiver set, and you know, Savviyan Williams is

515
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: more of like just that tight end slash running backs everything,

516
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: and then Mowie Keith, you know, subs in for his

517
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: big play, his you know, weekly big play, but he's

518
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: not getting.

519
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: That big play was incredible though, Oh what Moie Keith?

520
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: Their fifth and six receivers are always like low key good.

521
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: Huh.

522
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 4: It looks like Christian Watson's gonna return her practice next

523
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: week and that could make things a bit murky. But

524
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: again I think, yeah, Golden, he's a rookie, so that

525
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 4: the slow start isn't too surprising. But I think, you know,

526
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: Dobbs and Golden long term should be fine.

527
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: They were targeting Golden like for touchdowns on fourth and ones.

528
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: He's he It's only a matter of time before he

529
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: gives like a sixty yard touchdown, and then he's always

530
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: gonna be capable of I think more volume, like uh,

531
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: once he gets more acclimated. So yeah, I'm buying that

532
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: because we already tried it with Wis and you know,

533
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: it seems like it's kind of passed him by so

534
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: uh but yeah, I so, yeah, receiver is tough because.

535
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: There's so many like kind of like tantalizing options.

536
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: I thought about ewick Au minor Crent Johnson if he's

537
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: still available, which he isn't like forty percent of yeahoo

538
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: Week's definitely picked him up. But the two guys I'm

539
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: gonna mention are I'm mentioning them. Tilman's another guy, but

540
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm mentioning Wandale and Mooney. These two are my top ads.

541
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: And for the simple reason that all these other guys

542
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: were kind of a little bit concerned about what is

543
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: their usage gonna be like on a weekly basis, isn't

544
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: gonna be consistent? Wanda Robinson is locked in to the

545
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: number two receiver role in the Giants offense. He's always

546
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: gonna play in the swat in in three wide sets.

547
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: But because he's just their second best receiver, and you know,

548
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: like he's now just being like a full time wide receiver,

549
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: getting very easy underneath targets to pat his stats.

550
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: But with Russell.

551
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: Wilson here, he's getting deep, deeper looks as well. So

552
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: it's a very kind of good and untraditional mix. And yes,

553
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: there's certain weeks where he might have like a nine

554
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: catch thirty six yards type of thing.

555
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: But even in half PBR, like his his floor is

556
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: just so high because he's playing so many snaps.

557
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: And you know, this giant offense, it's Deo Johnson, Darius

558
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: Slayton and the running back are after. You know, Wandale,

559
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: only Neighbors is before him. So even though Neighbors getting

560
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: like thirty percent of the targets, there's still another twenty

561
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: five ish thirty percent for Wandale because those other three

562
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: guys I mentioned are just low target per route guys.

563
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: So I really like Wandale, you know, going forward. I

564
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: think the deep targets, whether it's Russ or Dart going forward,

565
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: really open.

566
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: Up his game.

567
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: And he is currently let's see, Wanda Robinson through two

568
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: weeks is the wide receiver nine in half PBO half PBR.

569
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: That is absolutely nuts and he's everything I guess they

570
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: want to Jal and Hyatts to be so yeah, and

571
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: the other guy's Mooney. It's not gonna be every week

572
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: that the Falcons throw for what I don't know, it

573
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: was like one hundred yards and they would run the ball.

574
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then don't get me wrong, they will run

575
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: the ball.

576
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 2: They will have positive game, But Raary McCloud, it's kind

577
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: of taking a back seat this year because they're going

578
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: heavier personnel. So it's Mooney and it's runding out there

579
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: for ninety five to one hundred of the past snaps

580
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: every single game, and those guys are almost always the

581
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: first read when they do throw.

582
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: And boy can Michael.

583
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: Pennix throw, So he's very accurate. He's not gonna scramble

584
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: a ton and he could throw downfield. So I think

585
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: Darneld Mooney has a chance to be very consistent. It's

586
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 2: kind of like a neighbors Wandale situation, except the facts

587
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: do have you know, better ancillary kind of guys. But

588
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Penix is so good that I would still buy Mooney

589
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: get in, you know, ninety two hundred percent every week,

590
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: So like him, and he's still available in about exactly

591
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: half of yaou league, which is just way too many.

592
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: That should be pretty much.

593
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, he was a guy at like back in

594
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: May when we did our first like sleeper Spot, he

595
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: was the guy that was high on and then he

596
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: you know, had that shoal injury. I think he missed

597
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 4: most of camp and pre season, which you don't want

598
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 4: to see with with the guy he's, you know, Michael Penix.

599
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: This is going to be his first year starting, so

600
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: you wanted as many reps with him as possible, So

601
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: I kind of expected a slower start. But once things

602
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: get cooking with Penix and Mooney downfield, watch out because

603
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: Pennix loves to throw downfield and that's kind of where

604
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: Mooney specializes. So yeah, he's definitely a good like long

605
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 4: term stash as well.

606
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Penix is really good man.

607
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: I just think I just think he's very accurate, quick

608
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: quick release and reads the field very well. So yeah,

609
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: it should be good for the receivers. But we'll get

610
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Speaker 2: I think you called out Juan Johnson, ask WEK I

629
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: love him, but and then you know there's another guy

630
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: that I think he is right there with him, that

631
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: I know you want to talk about.

632
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, have at it.

633
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Speaker 4: It's the rookie Harold Fannin Jr. Still available in fifty

634
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: eight percent of the leagues. I don't know what we're

635
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: doing people, but he saw a similar usage this week,

636
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: sixty five percent routes run rate again as the backup

637
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: tight end to David Djoku currently and his target shair

638
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: was down, but he's still caught five balls forty eight

639
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: yards no touchdown.

640
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: That is fantastic production from like a streamer type tight end.

641
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm still high, very high in h

642
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: long term because he's again he's doing all this as

643
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: the number to tight end. So we're kind of seeing

644
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: him close to his floor right now. This probably is

645
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: his floor because if Joku were to ever miss time,

646
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: you know, Fannin is gonna easily be a tight end

647
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: one or you know, at some point he could leap

648
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: frog and Joku or Joku could get traded. This is

649
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: you know, the final year of his deal. Uh, there's

650
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: already been trade rumors, Like when Kittle went down, there

651
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 4: was trade rumors of him potentially going to the Niners.

652
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: It's definitely possible. I'm not saying it will happen.

653
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: That's what I was saying with Bowers last year, Like

654
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams could get traded and his stock will go up.

655
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: So we just have to think of these potential scenarios,

656
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: and there is a scenario where Joku gets traded and

657
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 4: Fan and Junior is a clear cut tight end one

658
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: the rest of the way once that happened. So he's

659
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: just a guy that you have to add him even

660
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: even if you have like a Sam Laporta type, add

661
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: Harold Fan and Jr. If you have the roster space

662
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: for it. He has good short term value and excellent

663
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: long term upset. I tough matchup this week against the Packers,

664
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: but they have been vulnerable to tight ends at least

665
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: you know, Sam Laporta end Zach Kertz both had quality

666
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: games against them, so I'm not as scared of this matchup.

667
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: But got to add Fan of Junior if he's available again,

668
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: even if you have a legit tight end one, I

669
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: think you got to Adam as potential trade bait later on,

670
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: or just a guy that you know you might use eventually.

671
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: So super high and Harald fan of jor going to

672
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: keep nominating him here until he's scooped up in over

673
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: half the leagues.

674
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know what you mean by saying, you

675
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: know the Packers are a top matchup. They're just not

676
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: gonna let many teams score many points, and tight end

677
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: usually need a tight a touchdown to crack that top fifteen.

678
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: But the one thing about the Packers that does work

679
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: out for fan and is that they are playing zone

680
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: coverage at the highest rate.

681
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: In the week Fan and Junior.

682
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: Ilie he's eight catches on eight targets against zone and

683
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: that's typically you see tight ends acts. You know, non

684
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver types do better against the own coverage because

685
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: it's just you know, they're bigger, slower than wide receivers,

686
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: So wide receivers tend to get the action against man

687
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: coverage more so. So yeah, and then David Djokh might

688
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: just be big and old and slow slower than Fanning.

689
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: So I mean, here's a question, Yeah, I know where

690
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: if Djoku is drafted same spot.

691
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram was pretty much, would you drop Najoku right

692
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: now this week?

693
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: Oh, drop Djoku for fannin go ahead one roster spot.

694
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: That's that's a very tough question. I think. Let's see,

695
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: I have Joku eleven, tight end eleven right now. I

696
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: think he still has a higher floor, but that could

697
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 3: that should flip maybe in a few weeks.

698
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: So if you're if you're like two and zero. You're

699
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: feeling good, you're thinking long term upside, I would consider it.

700
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: You know, if Joku were to get traded the Niners

701
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: right now, he'dn't for you know, more value short term.

702
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think Fan and I think I'm just

703
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: thinking big picture. I'm thinking fancy playoffs Fan and Jr.

704
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: With Djoku not there, potentially he's like a potential top

705
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 4: five option probably you know, tight end eight, I would say.

706
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I'm thinking about Fanning long

707
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 4: term as just he's probably going to be a top

708
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 4: tight ten tight end on a weekly basis at some point.

709
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: I don't know when that.

710
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: Could be, but yeah, I just anything you can do

711
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: right now to be aggressive with tight end, especially if

712
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 4: you don't have Trey McBride or Brock Bowers, you should

713
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 4: just be as aggressive as possible when it comes to

714
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: tight end earlier in the season because you know, it's

715
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: it's such a shit show after those two that. Yeah,

716
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: I think being aggressive with Harold Fan Jr. Should pay

717
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: off eventually.

718
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would drop a new joking for him.

719
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: I just think it's clear that there's an issue in

720
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: a jok who they're already using Fanning way more than expected.

721
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: You're hearing trade rumors. He's as this is ninth.

722
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: Year in the league, and you know he had he's

723
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: only had these like stretches with these crazy court like

724
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: like that Flacco stretcher, then the Winston stretch.

725
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: But in between it's been very shaky. Though.

726
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would I would cut Bait. I

727
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: think fan is the future. It's just the writings on

728
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: the wall here for for Nadjoku and tight end. Like

729
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: you said, you can afford to be aggresive because it's

730
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: a shit show. So but yeah, Juan Johnson for me,

731
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 2: fifty available in fifty five percent of weeks, still too many.

732
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: He has gone from a non entity in fantasy because

733
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: he was splitting snaps.

734
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: With Taysom Hill and Foster Row. He's he's actually a

735
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: ninety route runner in this Kellen Moore offense.

736
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: And this was something that you know, before the season,

737
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: I said, don't just think of the Saints as this,

738
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: you know, terrible like Dennis Allen, Derek Carr, depressing team

739
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: like something's gonna change offensively because Kellen Moore's an offensive guy. Usually,

740
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: like bad teams, a lot of times they get these

741
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: defensive guys.

742
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: And then start or whatever. But you knew Colin more

743
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: was gonna coick something up.

744
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: And what it seems to be is, Okay, we're getting

745
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: We're getting like the very consistent route rates out of

746
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: the starters, and Johnsons included in that. So he ended

747
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: up finishing his a top three tight end last week

748
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: and with the underlying usage for him. Uh, I don't

749
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: know when Hill and Moreau will be back. So until

750
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: we get any indication that they're gonna be back and

751
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: cut in to Johnson's work, I think Johnson may end

752
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: up being kind of like the one of those fines,

753
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: like like a zach Ertz last year.

754
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: Or something like that.

755
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah that I mean heading into week one, I

756
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: was just looking at the depth chart and it was

757
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 4: Bullocky was like, we think he's taking away from John

758
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: Johnson one zero, and uh yeah it's zero. But Jack

759
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: still's you know, taking a couple. But Juwan Johnson like

760
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: a ninety five percent routes run rate and he's not

761
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 4: even like in the cay Otton camp either. He's drawing

762
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: over a twenty percent target rate in each game so far.

763
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree, he could be you know one

764
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: of the handful of league winning tight ends that were

765
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: just widely available heading into Week one.

766
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this offense has been a high volume pass offense.

767
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler currently the Fantasy QB seventeen, ahead of guys

768
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: like bonickx rock Party Joe Burrow's who's gonna beat out

769
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: pretty much regardless j J mcgard.

770
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's uh, it's it's got. It's getting crazy.

771
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: One one spot ahead of my guy Tremor Lawrence two

772
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: two weeks. It's Spencer freaking Rattler.

773
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: All right, Uh.

774
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: So, yeah, fan and Junior Johnson good ads, Uh startable.

775
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to defense, special teams. A lot of options,

776
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: a lot of options. I went back and forth on this,

777
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: But who you like the most on waivers? A lot

778
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: of a lot of potential options in the top six.

779
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 4: Yes, well, you beat me to my number one defense

780
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: this week, so I'll let you talk about them. So

781
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with my number three defense for Week three,

782
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 4: and it's the Cults available in ninety one percent league's.

783
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: They're facing the Titans, and the Titans are still a

784
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: team I want to pick on when it comes to

785
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: streaming defenses because you know, I was high on the

786
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: Rams last week. They finished the eighth defense of the week. Again,

787
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 4: they were a high four option. They had five sacks,

788
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: one funbel recovery, and allowed nineteen points. Again, those are

789
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: the the sacks and points louder, the more predictive things

790
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: when it comes to defense, and I think when you're

791
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: going to get up against the Titans, you're gonna get

792
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 4: a lot of sacks. I think cam Ord has a

793
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 4: bad offensive line and he's gonna take sacks. And he

794
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: has yet to throw an interception. That's going to change

795
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: at some point, possibly for like a pick six style.

796
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: I love cam Ord. He's very aggressive makes He's going

797
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: to make a lot of crazy throws. That that one

798
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: play where he scrambled to the right and threw all

799
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: the way I loved was one of the best throws

800
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: I've seen in quite some time. He's gonna make a

801
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 4: lot of those. He's gonna make that throat and it's

802
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: going to go to the you know a guy in

803
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: for a pick sex very jamis so.

804
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, he's way better than Do not tarnish

805
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: his name, but yeah, but either way, he's super aggressive.

806
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: He's just gonna yellow it and that's good for opposting

807
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 4: defenses in fantasy.

808
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: So all that.

809
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 4: Having said all that, the Colts are my number three

810
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: defense this week. Again a very high floor option. Touchdowns

811
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: and ship like that are random. That's that's what makes

812
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 4: defenses volatile. But you know, sacks, points, a lot of

813
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: things like that are a little bit more stable. So

814
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: that's why the Colts great highly in my defensive productions

815
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: to open the week.

816
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's kind of a top tier this

817
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: week and a lot of them are available. Uh the

818
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 2: one I went with the Seattle Seahawks at home against

819
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: those Saints. And really it's because Kevin Moore is taking

820
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: a more aggressive offensive approach because yeah, you mentioned it.

821
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: For defenses, we want them to throw on us. Because

822
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: the NFL is down.

823
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: To about keen drives per game now with the with

824
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: the touchback rules and the penalties and just everything, plays

825
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: per game are going down.

826
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Drives per game are going down.

827
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: Teams are you know, kind of extending drives more, not

828
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: punting as much, you know what I mean. So yeah,

829
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: there's less kind of chances if a team is just

830
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: keeping it on the ground, like the defense needs those

831
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: opportunities for mistakes to happen. So the fact that Spencer

832
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: Ratler can get his attempts into the forties and you know,

833
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: high thirties and forties in.

834
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: This Kellen Moore offense, I think he's you.

835
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Know, showed out pretty well thus far, but he's kind

836
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: of he's he's gonna get he's gonna start allowing more

837
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: sacks than he has.

838
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: I think he's he's right for some interceptions as well.

839
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: But if you also just kind of want to look

840
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: at your home favorite low team total for the road underdog,

841
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: and that's what ultimately led me to the Seahawks. But

842
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm very tempted also. I was very tempted to go

843
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Falcons because yeah, Bryce Young, Everyone's like,

844
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: oh yeah, they had a great they you know, they

845
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: furious comeback. Arizona lost their top three corners in that game,

846
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: and we're just playing prevent defense for like the entire

847
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: second half. So if you look at Bryce Young and

848
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: what he's done, like not in garbage time over his

849
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: entire career, except for like the four games with Cocher

850
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: and Thiwan together, it's been horrible. And the Falcons, I

851
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: think I don't think people realize how good their pass

852
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: rush is now aj trell.

853
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Is see about him.

854
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: But they have so many good rookies Bowman Watts, They're

855
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: getting great snaps out of Diablo, like it's just a

856
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: do we do defense. So I think they're gonna get

857
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: the Pants a lot of problems because the Pants is

858
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 2: likely down both of their interior alignment Corbett and Hunt,

859
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: which is massive. So Falcons another option if for some

860
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: reason the Seahawks and Colts are taken, or you just

861
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: want to kind of go against the grain, maybe in

862
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: DFS or something.

863
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of options this weekend.

864
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: In my top six, so but officially would go Seattle

865
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: just because I think Ratwick growing that much is very

866
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: beneficial to a very good defense at home.

867
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Seahawks are going to be a

868
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: good defense this season, but especially for this week. I

869
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: can't believe that they're as widely available already. But this

870
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: matchup will lower the roster ship quite a bit. But

871
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Speaker 4: I agree, I think the Falcons defense could be sneaky

872
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: long term. Again, people talk about, you know, their PRESSU

873
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 4: rate last year, but in the draft they had Jalen

874
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: Walker followed them at pick fifteen. I had over like

875
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: eight and a half on his draft slot. So I

876
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: hit that and then they made that aggressive move to

877
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: trade up to get Pierce where people were kind of

878
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: giving them shit. He leads a team with eight pressure

879
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 4: so far, so you know, adding those two rookies, they're

880
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: only going to get better.

881
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: Like this pass rush is much better. Like you said that,

882
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: I think they're going to surprise some people this year.

883
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, they could be more of a long term

884
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: option as well.

885
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, the Oblow is a monster.

886
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's like a linebacker with safety speed but

887
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: like lindbacker hitting like it's just it's a whole different defense.

888
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.

889
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's one of those things where you just

890
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: got to play it by a year.

891
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, Seahawks another team going under the radar. Let's

892
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: go to kicker. Finish it off strong here, kicker man,

893
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: how's your kicker model doing? And I know you kind

894
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: of switched some things up heading into twenty twenty five.

895
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, so good.

896
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Speaker 4: I mean I had a rough Week one on Fantasy pros,

897
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Speaker 4: like middle of the pack, but I finished like top

898
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: in either kicker or defense. I forget which was top

899
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 4: ten in both. Not many people take those seriously, so

900
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: I'm not bragging about that. But kicker model is great

901
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 4: and I've been play some more bets on its result

902
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 4: and I had will record who is my streamer again?

903
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: This week?

904
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 4: Available in eighty nine percent of leagues At home against

905
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: the Bengals, I had his over one and a half

906
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 4: field goals, was getting like minus one fourteen on it.

907
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: But just given JJ McCarthy that that one drive that

908
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 4: I was talking about where Kevin O'Connell opted to kick

909
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: it with eleven seconds what was a fifty nine yarder

910
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: instead of letting JJ McCarthy take a drop back and

911
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: potentially get sacked or turn it over. Just what to

912
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: pick up another ten yards to help record out record

913
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 4: doesn't need help. He's one of the best long kickers

914
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: in the league, so you know, against the Falcons he

915
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: was the only offense right. He made both field goals,

916
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Speaker 4: including the fifty one yarder. I think having Carson wentzenter

917
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: center will help get them across miss midfield a little

918
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: bit more than McCarthy did. And I still think they're

919
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: going to be somewhat conservative when they do get in

920
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: that range. I think they kind of want to lean

921
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: on their defense either way. I think Reker, you know,

922
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 4: it's the profile of like the kicker I want. He's

923
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 4: at home against the Bengals. You just mentioned there could

924
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: be weather across all the outdoor games this week. It's

925
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: too early to say on that, but the nice thing

926
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 4: about record is we don't care. He's playing inside. He's

927
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: my kicker three to open the week, and again just

928
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: a really really high floor option and he has that

929
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: long leg where you get bonus points for fifty plus

930
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: third field goals. He's like one of the best at

931
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: that that's still widely available.

932
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

933
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's this kind of a changing of the guard

934
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: here for them. You know, a kicker like the last

935
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: couple of years, like Jake Baits Aubrey coming on, you

936
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: got loop now in Baltimore. I think he's going to

937
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: be pretty consistent.

938
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: But you know what hasn't changed. Matt Prater is one

939
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: of our favorites from back in the day.

940
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: He is on what will probably be the highest scoring

941
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: and biggest favorite of the week each week.

942
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, there could be some weather, but Buffalo is

943
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: gonna move the ball. I had a bad call.

944
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: I thought the Jets were They looked so much better

945
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: in weege one and the Bills just look like a

946
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: disaster for most of that game. And oh man did

947
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: the Bills step up last week. So I just think

948
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: whether it's their defense, whether it's their offense, they're gonna get.

949
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a high floor kicker option. And Prader

950
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: is my number one kicker this week because the Bills

951
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: are just projected to score so many points and you

952
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: know the Ravens Lines shootout that could kind of go

953
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: either way. So I think I think Prader gets it

954
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: done here. Not doesn't have quite the range that you

955
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: know he had in his prime, but so if you can't,

956
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to get a Brandon Aubrey,

957
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: a Cam Wittle on Waivers.

958
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: Still would pick up Widtle too.

959
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: He's available long term, but for this week definitely, Prader

960
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: is my number one kicker, So love love him against Miami.

961
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah he's my number one kicker as well, And yeah,

962
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: he might not be able to drill like a sixty

963
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 4: four yarder, but he's still excellent fifty plus yards. He's

964
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: made seventy five percent of his fifty plus yard attempts

965
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: in his career. Granted, he played for the Broncos and

966
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: Lions for a long time, so very good kicking environments.

967
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 4: My model accounts for that on Arizona too. But yeah, still,

968
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: he's proven to be one of the best kickers you

969
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 4: know of all time. So put him on one of

970
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 4: the top scoring offenses league and you get him popping

971
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 4: in both of our kicker models. So yeah, I'm right

972
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 4: there with you have him kicker one as well.

973
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, Tyra Hoop is actually my kicker too.

974
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: We talked about him last week, but he knows up

975
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: if he gets another elevation, which I think you will.

976
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Parker Romo kickers six for me because I could see.

977
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: Another kind of The Falcons are just going to be,

978
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: you know, ball control conservative. They're confident in their defense

979
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: now and they're confident in their kickers.

980
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, you can now bet on the Falcons again.

981
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: Did you boom them in your power ratings a half point?

982
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: Like? How how valuable is that?

983
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: Having a kind of been favored by seven on the

984
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: road against Carolina any week?

985
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: That is how much I like the Falcons. I just

986
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: love their defense.

987
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: It's not like I don't Their offense was always there

988
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: even with you know, you know, with cousins. He was

989
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: putting on like five hundred yard games. But it's just

990
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: that kicker, like like I knew who was gonna drink

991
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: that or just like miss that kick once he's doin

992
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: the p A T and we won. Like but partner

993
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: Romo also had the worst start ever. Did you see

994
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: that first kick? It pretty much missed?

995
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Like uh, they like replayed it and they're, yes, they

996
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: got it right.

997
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: Well you end up making what six field five?

998
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah you got oh yeah. Falcons. Falcons are I

999
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: think they're gonna.

1000
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: Be I didn't even mention it, but Kyle Pitts, it

1001
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: might be a Kyle Pitts season to just throw that

1002
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: out in there with the Falcons too.

1003
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, panic's really good vibes, I think. I think. And

1004
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: with now that they have a defense and at.

1005
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 2: Least for now it's like a kicker, it's just gonna

1006
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: be like a more cohesive unit.

1007
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Like I just think the.

1008
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: Falcons are gonna start kind of like the Bucks, who

1009
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: just so consistent. Now, Todd Bowles, you'll forget he's there.

1010
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: Like Raheem Morris is kind of like that same. He's

1011
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: just like Steely, you kind of forget he's there, but

1012
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: I think this team really good vibes and just very

1013
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: predictable usage, like it's gonna be London, Mooney, Pitts, Algier

1014
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: and and Robinson every game, so yeah, like like going

1015
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: after the defense will be good. But Prater Riker our

1016
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: Kickers both should be available in about nine out of

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