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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norry with

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Speaker 2: your first time guest Michelle Freed with US hypnotist, clairvoyant

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Speaker 2: remote viewer. Michelle Freed is fully certified in all forms

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Speaker 2: of control remote viewing and completed the Beginning to Advance

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Speaker 2: training programs through the Right Hemisphere Intuitive Specialists and received

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Speaker 2: additional training from the Great Joe mcmonical. She co owns

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Speaker 2: the Midnight Dot FM network. She's a producer for the

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Speaker 2: Midnight Society radio show with Tim Weisberg, and Michelle founded

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Speaker 2: the publicist company litm Media, where she helps authors get

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Speaker 2: booked on shows and events, as well as producing podcasts herself. Michelle,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. I'm looking forward to this.

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Speaker 3: Hi'm George. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in hypnotism and remote viewing?

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Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's a good question. I live in the

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Speaker 3: Midwest US, in Chicago, and I kind of around a

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Speaker 3: certain age started paying attention to kind of a spiritual

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Speaker 3: I guess awakening you could say. But I also thought

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Speaker 3: I have to find something to do that makes money,

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Speaker 3: so I looked into hypnosis because I felt like in

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Speaker 3: this area where I live, people are not really so

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Speaker 3: much into spiritual It's kind of a lot of conservative

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Speaker 3: people that aren't into like psychic or remote viewing or

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Speaker 3: anything like that. So for me, it was just hard

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Speaker 3: to find people, and I felt like helping people with

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Speaker 3: hypnosis would be the way to go. And I slowly

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Speaker 3: learned through the school that it is all about being spiritual,

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Speaker 3: and what I loved about it is the science and

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Speaker 3: learning about how your brain works versus the spiritual side

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Speaker 3: of things. That there's just more to us than you know,

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Speaker 3: flesh and blood.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's no question about it. Then do you combine

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Speaker 2: the two hypnotism with remote viewing? Do they do they

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Speaker 2: match up together? Sometimes?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say, because I study a lot of

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Speaker 3: how I want to know how remote viewing works. I

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Speaker 3: know that all. I'm sure you've had like a million

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Speaker 3: people on the show and they all talk about that

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Speaker 3: it works. But I'm very curious about how it works.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of times people will come up to

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Speaker 3: psychics and people that remote view and say, if you're

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Speaker 3: that's a good question, and so I really wanted to

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Speaker 3: find out what's going on, what's happening when we do this,

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Speaker 3: and so some of my answer, I don't have anything

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Speaker 3: concrete yet, but some of my answer comes about how

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Speaker 3: our brain works, the left brain and the right brain,

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Speaker 3: and when we remote view or do anything psychic, we

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Speaker 3: really have to balance the left brain and right brain.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe even I use a method with guided meditation

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Speaker 3: then turn up the right brain, because you need more

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Speaker 3: right brain when you're doing this kind of work than

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Speaker 3: the left brain, which is responsible for logic and things

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Speaker 3: like that. And the way that remote viewing work is

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Speaker 3: that we want to describe things rather than name things.

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Speaker 3: And that's like a big deal because we could be

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Speaker 3: data when we're aware of what's going on and how

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Speaker 2: I've always Willie Michelle that we are almost like in

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Speaker 2: I don't know how, but that when you do remote

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Speaker 2: viewing or telepathy or clairvoyance, it somehow hooks into this

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Speaker 2: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I yeah, our right brain or our subconscious is

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about hypnotism for this first half hour,

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Speaker 2: and the next half hour we'll talk about remote viewing

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Speaker 2: in some of the work you've been doing in this area.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your work with hypnotism.

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Speaker 3: So hypnotism is I work with people that have I

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Speaker 3: this crazy thing that happened. This is a place, right,

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Speaker 3: So I had three clients within the span of a year,

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Speaker 3: And I'm curious if anybody of your listeners ever had

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Speaker 2: What do you think of their story, Michelle, when they

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Speaker 2: vivid imagination somehow that's come up in hypnosis, or do

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Speaker 3: You know, I try not to judge or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: is that these particular three cases were really in fact.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking, right now we should remote view it.

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Speaker 3: So take the cases of that remote view it, right,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was really pretty interesting. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I had a guest on last night who claims that

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Speaker 3: I got to tell you, Yeah, I mean it's you know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of times when we remote view people and situations,

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Speaker 3: off very believable. I'm not saying that that person didn't,

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Speaker 2: Well with Michelle Freed. Her website is linked up at

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Speaker 2: Coast tocosdam dot com. Now without hypnotizing us, Michelle tell

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Speaker 2: us how it works. What's the process of hypnotizing somebody?

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Speaker 3: So hypnotizing is a lot of people get caught up

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Speaker 3: I think what was the name of the movie office.

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Speaker 3: Guy dies and they think like he's going to be

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Speaker 3: stuck in hypnosis. Well, hypnosis is actually a natural it's

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Speaker 3: a natural state that we are all in. In fact,

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Speaker 3: anybody listening to this show right now and focusing on

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Speaker 3: our discussion is being hypnotized. And that's why a lot

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Speaker 3: essentially is focused attention. So when I add therapy to it,

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Speaker 2: And you do it without drugs, right.

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Speaker 2: No. How many times have we driven from point A

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Speaker 3: And that's the whole thing that people are. They have

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Speaker 2: How long does it take to hypnotize somebody, Well.

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Speaker 3: It depends. There are kinds. In fact, I had a

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Speaker 3: There's a technique that you use. So I was able

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Speaker 2: Michelle, Is it true that you cannot hypnoesize somebody to

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Speaker 2: Now, does governments and cias and organizations hypnotize people to

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Speaker 3: You know? I know that, you know, they talk a

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Speaker 3: a lot of there is a lot of research of

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Speaker 3: his name is Dan Brown or something Brown, Bob Brown

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Speaker 3: or something, and he does these YouTube videos where he hypnotized.

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Speaker 3: He'll walk in and hypnotize somebody thinking that they're holding

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Speaker 3: I think it was jewelry, and the person thought that

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Speaker 3: you know, five minutes later, Wait a minute, this guy's

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Speaker 3: cheated me. So you know, and I've played with that too.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I would go and buy something

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Speaker 3: and I would distract the cashier and I'm not proud

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Speaker 3: distract her and then she would forget to ring something

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Speaker 3: But then of course my guilt gets in there and

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Speaker 3: I have to return it. But I did it for research,

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Speaker 3: of course, George, it.

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Speaker 2: Was, of course, and you did it for a refund

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Speaker 2: to get get the money back, then't you that you

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Speaker 2: never paid?

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Speaker 3: Don't tell anybody, all right.

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Speaker 2: Hypnosis has also used it for past life regressions, and

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Speaker 2: it seems to work very well for that, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, we do that all the time. In fact,

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Speaker 3: I also use past life regression in remote viewing. But

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Speaker 3: yet there's a couple. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: people that have unexplained pain or things that happen in

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Speaker 3: that I worked with, she had EMO and she tried

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Speaker 3: and we found that the origin of her ezema came

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Speaker 3: We healed that and her ezema. It's not completely gone,

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Speaker 3: but it's significantly better.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, it really is. Well, what has been the

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Speaker 2: most profound past life regression you have come across?

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Speaker 3: Let's see profound I got you know, Actually it would

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Speaker 3: be my brother who was he so he was so

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Speaker 3: I did the whole thing, and I woke him up

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, how how did it go?

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Speaker 3: You know, tell me about your experience. And he's like,

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Speaker 3: why is everyone Jesus? You know, like come on? And

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Speaker 3: so I'm like, okay, all right, are you sure he's

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Speaker 3: like out of it? Totally out of it. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, let's talk about this in a couple

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Speaker 3: like acting like I'm the idiot, and he goes, I

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Speaker 3: it was it was biblical times, it was like and

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Speaker 3: he started describing just on the phone, he was there,

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Speaker 3: and he started describing in full details of where he

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Speaker 3: kind of let him. I'm like, go find a mirror,

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Speaker 3: I kind of led him to his the moment of

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Speaker 3: his death and uh, long story short is he was

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Speaker 2: Oh what a horrible way to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I said do you think that this is

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Speaker 3: because he has a fear of heights? And I said,

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Speaker 3: do you think this is a reason you have a

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Speaker 3: fear of heights? And he said, yeah, it makes sense.

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