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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be talking about Chad Michael Murray, otherwise known as Jake

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Speaker 1: from Freaky Friday. They have a new sequel that just

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Speaker 1: came out, and he was recently interviewed and talked about

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Speaker 1: a hospitalization he had as a teenager. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about a singer that was on a competition TV

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Speaker 1: show who had a really excruciating terror on her volva,

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Speaker 1: and other weird injuries that happened while she was filming.

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Speaker 1: A woman who was just randomly dancing on a roof

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Speaker 1: and fell through the chimney, a dead infant that was

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Speaker 1: in a hearse but it's not what you would think,

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Speaker 1: and a specific ear piercing you may be able to

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Speaker 1: get to make mys go away. All that and more.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, let's.

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Speaker 2: Talk about Jake.

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Speaker 3: He's Tristan from Gilmore Girls, So get it right, because

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Speaker 3: that was that was first.

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't I didn't watch Gilmore Girls. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but he was like, he like the heart throb. Is

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Speaker 1: he still good looking?

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Speaker 2: I never He's not really my type. But he he

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Speaker 2: left us.

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Speaker 3: In the Gilmore Girls University Go on One Tree Hill.

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Speaker 3: Then he was in I think Cinderella Storried with Hillary Duff.

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Speaker 3: He was totally like my era, millennial era, like heart Throb.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: He was always in those teen magazines.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna go see that this weekend, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really want to say it.

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Speaker 3: Of course we are. Isn't that where make Good Choices

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Speaker 3: comes from?

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Speaker 1: When? I don't know if when when you drop the

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Speaker 1: kids off at school you say make good Choices when

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Speaker 1: they get out of the car, and I think it's.

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Speaker 2: From the movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was from Mean Girls.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought maybe maybe it's not.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like Amy Poehler and Mean Girls

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Speaker 1: that was dropping off the kid.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyway.

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Speaker 3: Chad Michaelberry was on The Great Company podcast and revealed

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Speaker 3: that when he was fifteen, he spent over two months

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Speaker 3: in the hospital because his intestines were quote twisted.

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Speaker 1: So, just based upon the little information that was given

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Speaker 1: he was still considered to be a kid, he probably

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Speaker 1: had this condition called intestinal mal rotation, which is when

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Speaker 1: you're a fetus, and you're developing, your intestines kind of

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Speaker 1: twist and then they move themselves into a proper position,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't twist in the right way and

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Speaker 1: don't go into the proper position, which because think about it,

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Speaker 1: it's like your intestines are like a hose, Like if

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Speaker 1: finally finally woven into the abdomen like that, and if

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Speaker 1: it's not in the right place, those loops of the

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Speaker 1: hose are able to twist on each other. And what

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Speaker 1: happened in his case was that they twisted on each

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Speaker 1: other and it could cut off the blood supply to

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Speaker 1: the bell. But not only that, it also cuts off

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Speaker 3: So something really cool from this story is he was

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Speaker 3: saying that the nurses were all like fawning over him,

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Speaker 3: So it seemed like it went pretty well for him

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Speaker 1: Do you think this nurse takes responsibility for discovering him?

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Speaker 1: He is like very handsome, Like he does have a

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Speaker 2: Not by type.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the Blonde I'm either, but I could recognize,

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Speaker 1: cool that the nurse was like, I'm gonna call one

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Speaker 2: That's that's so cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, And it's cool that he's still it's cool

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Speaker 3: that he's in Freaky Friday and I guess he's in

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Speaker 2: I honestly forgot he.

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Speaker 3: Was in that movie, but I'm looking for it because

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Speaker 1: It's very bizarre, like the way Jamie Lee Curtis is

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Speaker 1: but like it's just weird to watch it because she's

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Speaker 1: wait to see part two and Lindsay lohandle oh God,

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Speaker 1: please tell me who's taking care of your face?

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Speaker 2: Because I want.

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Speaker 1: That so good, the best work I've ever seen it

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, please share your secrets.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you saw that picture of

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Speaker 3: Larsa Pippen that was going around last Oh. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I think you're just really going overboard.

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Speaker 3: And she was so beautiful before she started trying to

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Speaker 3: about all of these people. It's it's really.

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Speaker 2: Sad, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about this this singer that was on

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Speaker 3: So there's a show called Celebrity Sas Who Dares Win,

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Speaker 3: it's in the UK. I guess it's our Like I

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Speaker 3: guess our version of the show is called Special Forces,

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Speaker 3: But in this case, singer Lucy Spragan, she's on the show,

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Speaker 3: and she revealed that during one of the stunts, her

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this sounds horrible. I do understand what

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Speaker 3: Right, maybe you should use this as the example.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just keep thinking about that and just

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Speaker 3: I don't know why anybody wants to go on these shows.

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Speaker 2: I don't either.

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Speaker 1: It's like it, I mean, there is something to be

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Speaker 3: I think Doctor Drew was special for she was really sick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something happened with him, and something happened with Kate,

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Speaker 3: Good guys, Teresa and her daughter are going to be

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, there was somebody. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: This is so bizarre.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of Bravo people, I feel like

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Speaker 2: Not but not interested.

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Speaker 1: Especially so this lady had other she said that she

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Speaker 3: But then she knocked the twothous She said she fainted

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Speaker 3: So like now that's in her wedding photos, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: was it worth it? I just hope going on this

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Speaker 3: to go through. Yeah, no, thanks, no, all right, this

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Speaker 3: what is ridiculous. Police recalled after a woman was seen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like the fire department had to comment

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Speaker 1: she was three feet into the chimney. And this is

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Speaker 1: like the old Santa Claus thing, like people get stuck.

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Speaker 1: It's not like she could come out the other side

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Speaker 3: What I found funny is they were saying they were

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Speaker 1: So I mean, clearly she was on something, right, Like

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Speaker 2: Okay, so over the.

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Speaker 3: Weekend, the body of a one year old girl was

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Speaker 1: This story is so bizarre because someone at the funeral

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Speaker 1: How did they do? You know how they figured out

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Speaker 1: God, it's such a weird thing to like this reminds

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they said it they thought it was a

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Speaker 3: She didn't think, really anything was that bad until her

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Speaker 3: looking into medical advice, learning about different kinds of triggers,

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Speaker 1: So I had a lot of piercings in my day

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Speaker 1: So I was going to the same guy all the time,

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, whatever, because I was just like

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you when I got that piercing,

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Speaker 1: did have migraines until no, I did. I had migraines

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Speaker 1: But then like the American Migraine Foundation has had to

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Speaker 3: But let's put on our tinfoil hats for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Are they Are they financially backed by the I Was

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Speaker 3: No, they don't ask you any of this stuff. Because

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Speaker 2: Taken care of.

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Speaker 1: COPA max, which is freaking terrible, Like it seriously, I

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Speaker 2: But like when I was.

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Speaker 1: On that, I could not talk, but I couldn't get

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Speaker 1: It was terrible.

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Speaker 3: But when I went on it, they didn't say any

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, like, I'm thinking about this with

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Speaker 1: But why would you I mean, I guess with piercings

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Speaker 3: So that's calling bullshit because if it works for something

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Speaker 3: for some people, it might not for others. But if

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Speaker 3: who cares?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess. I guess as a medical

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Speaker 1: of this, But like, I don't even know why they

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Speaker 1: you it's it's not it's not anything insane to me

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Speaker 1: you could get really her. It's just kind of like

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Speaker 1: an ear piercing relax exactly. You could put out a

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Speaker 1: thing that's like, listen, we don't have any studies that

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Speaker 2: But like, if it works for you, good good, you know,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, she's saying since she got it done well,

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Speaker 3: she was saying at first she figured if it didn't

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Speaker 3: work whatever. She is a cute little piercing now, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you want to try it, but also

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Speaker 1: know that some things don't work for everyone. But it

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Speaker 1: does make me think about what's going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Sarah was the first thing I thought.

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Speaker 1: Of, of course, And I bet you if you went

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Speaker 1: on your website, their website, you would see like you

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Speaker 1: brelv and blah blah blah blah blah, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you know how these places roll.

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Speaker 3: No, I can't trust anything after the Oxycotton documentary.

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Speaker 2: I mean that truly changed my life. I will say

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Speaker 2: it every episode.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, though, is that you can't you can't

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Speaker 1: be like you can't be anti pharmacy either, though, because

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Speaker 1: there are some drugs that are miracles that help a

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Speaker 2: No, I'm totally not against medicine.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying in instances.

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Speaker 1: Like this now you should question, Yeah, what's going on

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Speaker 2: No, medicine's awesome.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's just weird because it's just like, you

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Speaker 1: be so extreme in either direction. It's like I feel

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Speaker 1: the same way with medicine. It's like there's lots of

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Speaker 1: natural things that you could do. I guess, like I

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Speaker 1: non medical intervention things. And then there's and then medicine

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Speaker 1: helps in situations too, Like it's not like all homeopathic

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Speaker 1: and then everybody would be happy. Well, that's how everybody

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Speaker 1: should be about everything. Yeah, you have to be one

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Speaker 1: the care read thing. If you're not on one side,

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Speaker 1: people not everyone. No, I think that with there are

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Speaker 1: certain things that we are definitely hardcore, like pedophilia being

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Speaker 1: at all. That's just I'm not here like go away

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Speaker 1: and get abolished off the face of the earth kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. But okay, well that's it for today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to be at crime Con in just

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