WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ 2018 Senior Bowl - Day 1 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:07.720 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.960 on your war room for insider news and draft analysis 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.440 from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand, 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:21.520 Dallas Cowboys Selection and now your hosts, Dane Brugler, David 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.600 Hellman and Brian brought us and welcome to the Draft 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:30.680 show here in Mobile, Alabama. Day one of the Senior 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:35.199 Bowl here. Excited to be here, Brian brought us, Dane Brugler, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.280 David Hellman. Uh, As I said, Day one, guys of 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:46.760 the Senior Bowl, really an installation day, Dane, and uh, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.000 you know, we had the wag ins in the morning 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.920 and then we had the practices in the afternoon, both 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.400 the North South getting after it today again more installation 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.080 teaching things like that. But kind of want to get 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.320 you guys comments. I know you day we're kind of 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.760 running around having to do try and track down the 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.279 owner and general manager. Really was a really busy day today. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.160 It was a busy day for you and I know 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.680 that for all of us. But I want to get 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.160 into as we get started, I want to get into 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:23.800 the way in itself some surprises with you, Dane. I mean, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.640 we'd been working on you know, when you watch this tape, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.560 we get the heights, the weights, the speed. Some of 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.240 them are estimates, you know. Some of them are stuff 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.240 that's done from pro days in the spring. You know 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.600 some of these guys. Yeah, the body types, the weights, 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:42.440 the heights, all that change. Any surprises when you looked 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:47.400 at the way ends today, I think usually there's surprises 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.120 every year. I didn't think there were too many surprises 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.240 this year in terms of what we expected going in. Yeah, Um, 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.160 Desmond Harrison coming in at two hundred and seventy nine pounds. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.240 That was surprising to me, the offensive tackle from Georgia. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.840 And it wasn't only just the weight, but just his frame. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:06.520 He doesn't have a typical offensive tackle frame. He'll probably 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.639 be able to get it up to mid two nineties 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.560 by the combine. But I don't know which wasn't impressed 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.000 with this frame. I think the rest of it, uh 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.240 was more about what we thought. I think when you 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.560 look at Marcus Davenport from ETSA, right, that's how you 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.480 want an NFL defensive end of Look. Yeah, almost sixty six, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.760 two hundred and sixty pounds, thirty four inch arms. Um. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.200 I think Levi Wallace took a lot of heat for 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.360 being under what was one seventy six. Yeah, you're right. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.040 I was impressed by Levi Wallace because I thought he 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.560 played day. Yeah, I'm talking about physically. Yeah, the arm 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.600 length arm, I mean, you put him in an NFL 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.880 strength and conditioning program, he'll be able to get up there. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.840 Probably one eighty five, I think. But you know, you 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.000 can't fix short arms, and he doesn't have short arms. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.320 He has thirty three and three eighths in charge arms 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.520 for a corner. So I thought Levi Wallace was a 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.600 name that really stood out this morning. And then quarterbacks. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.160 I mean, you look at Josh Allen. He just blessed 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.960 with impressive jeans because when you look at him, he's 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.280 almost six five, two hundred and thirty seven pounds over 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.200 ten inch hands. So I think for the most part, 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.880 the way as were what we expected. Anything that caught, yeah, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.000 I was. I wanted to kind of get into and 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.600 the one note that I had you have some day, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.240 I'm sorry you was up there. I no, go ahead, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:24.440 I want to see what you say. Yeah, you know, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.960 I was looking at these wide receivers and I was 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.520 looking at Marcel Eightman. Yeah, and here's a man that 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.840 measures six to four and is two hundred and sixteen 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:40.520 pounds Oklahoma state wide receiver nine hands. You know, I'm 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.000 thinking of a guy, a bigger guy, but he catches 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.320 the ball. I mean we saw that today, the way 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.360 snatching the football, the speed and all. We've talked about that, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.880 but I was a little surprised to him being that 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.400 big and Heley having nine inch hands. Yeah, same thing 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.480 with Davenport, he only had nine inch hands. That is 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:02.840 interesting when you see the not quite proportionate to height 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.920 and arm length, smaller hands like that. It is an 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.960 interesting part of it. That's a good observation by you. Yeah, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.880 I thought two go ahead, Dave. I'm sorry, Well no, 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.920 I just you know, I'm thinking about people listening at 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.240 home right now, and I would probably be in this category, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.400 like why are you talking about heights and weights? Like, 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:23.080 oh my god, I don't care. But I think back 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:28.200 to this time last year and Dane kind of had 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.200 a moment about Jordan Lewis and his measurements, and right, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.800 you know, this was a big day for him proven 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.400 to people that he's he fits the size you want 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.400 in a cornerback, right, YEAHA probably I think we the conversation, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.039 was he solidified that he's got the measurables to be 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.320 a first round pick. Obviously, off the field stuff contributed 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.600 to him not being that, but based on his first 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.240 year as a Cowboy, I think we would agree that 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.640 he has that kind of talent. Yeah, so I wonder 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.320 all of that is a roundabout way of saying, I 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.640 wonder if there's a guy that fits that category for 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.200 you this year where you're like, he needed to come 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.520 in at this height, or he it's really good for 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.440 him that he came in at this way that type 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.960 of stuff. That's a good point because, yeah, we knew 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.240 Jordan Lewis was short, but when he came in with 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.680 thirty one in arms, that was that's yeah, that's what 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.320 got Yeah, that's what Will McClay will tell you. Right. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.360 Will McClay is okay with the short corner as long 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.479 as he's got long arms. Right. So you know when 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.680 you think, oh, the Cowboys won't take a short corner, well, 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.320 they took a short corner. And let me tell you, 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.719 there's some really good short corners in this draft. You know, 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.440 there's some guys that Will will need to see. Uh 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.960 you know what the in fact, the arm link is 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.680 some of the you know, back to Dave's question about 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.360 kind of who we thought, you know, kind of like 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.960 at Jordan Lewis, who, Yeah, we had an idea of 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.760 what his measurables were, but he had to come in 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.920 with you know, like arm length. And I think one 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.720 of those guys was ogbo uh our boy from Oklahoma 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.520 our corner. I can't even Dane can't say that one 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.960 trumps me up every time. That's a but Okay, we 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.159 knew like he's a he's an undersized pass rush and 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.320 we knew that. Yeah, but he came in at thirty 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.960 four and a half inch arms. That's for him a 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.159 one row five sounds fass good, good luck. Yeah, I'm 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.960 not there yet, no, but I'll tell you what. But 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.120 you're right, and you know, and here's a guy that 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.400 is listened as a defensive end. Kind of feel like 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.160 that the Cowboys are going to look at him as 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.840 a linebacker potentially. So we'll see there one more guy 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.240 if I could point out too. And Dane's brought up 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.200 this name quite a bit because we're trying to find 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.360 that left guard at fifty. If you're trying to find 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.000 the left guard at fifty Okay, now you tap was 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.679 three hundred and forty pounds, carried it well and carried 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.480 it well, he looked. I talked to him today, Will Hernandez. Yeah, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.560 here we go. I need to be a better job 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.599 with this three day school. And not the name he is. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.680 He looks more like a tackle than a guard, honestly, 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.279 standing square bill guy, and he I mean holds yeah, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.200 and he he's impressive. He is impressive though, And yeah, 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.520 he was three hundred and forty pounds. But I want 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.919 to go to Isaiah Win. Yeah, Isaiah Win measured in 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:12.280 at six two Georgia measured at six two and a 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:17.160 half three hundred and eight pounds. Obviously not a tackle build. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:19.360 So this is gonna be a This is a guy 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.000 that played left tackle at Georgia and is now is 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:27.320 going to be projected inside at guard. Kind of a 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.360 funny built guy, kind of a longer I mean, you know, yeah, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.040 because he had a shorter upper body, longer lower body, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.720 and he had over thirty three in ye and so 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.960 I think that gave you some comfort that if you 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.480 needed him to kick out to tackle, he could do 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.760 it right in the NFL. But I think just like 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.080 just like Zach Martin. Just like a few of these 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.400 other guys, you know, tackle to guard converts. Once they 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.200 get to the NFL level, we feel like they're best place. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.160 They're ideally suited to go inside. I think that's with 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.320 Isaiah Win. I think he could be a ten year 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.120 starter in the NFL. I think he's really good. But 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.640 you're right, the body type is a little very round 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.320 mid section, right, But no, I think he plays on 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.160 his feet though. That's the one thing when you watch 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.840 this tape if yeah he did, if you if you 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.680 have a chance to watch Isaiah Win, he's a tackle 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.600 at Georgia. He rarely his uniform is rarely dirty because 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.800 he's rarely on the ground. He is one of the 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:25.400 best position blockers. Leverage, turn, reach, snatch, all those things 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.440 that you want to do with an offensive lineman. Perfect 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.239 for what the Cowboys want to do with this game, 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.679 with the game of you know, with Paul Alexander, if 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.240 you watch the Bengals play, he'll pull those guards. Movement, yeah, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.920 a lot of movement. Zack Martin is really good at that. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.880 I felt like that Ron Leary redid his body two 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.520 years ago to be able to play in this kind 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.840 of scheme. When is that kind of guy? And for me, 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.200 so yeah, I'm looking at you know what when, yeah, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.280 I don't, I don't. You know, I don't have a 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.360 problem with him. I really don't have a problem with it. 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.679 I think I think people will get on them. But 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.880 then you look at Jonathan Cooper was not a mammoth 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.040 looking guy, and and and and I think when it 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:14.200 was a similar athlete coming out of Georgia as what 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.760 Cooper was coming out of North Carolina, I see it. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.880 I see an athletic guy. I mean, I don't see 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.120 a guy that gets knocked back and all that stuff. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.600 He's still a very balanced block. If you want the strong, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.600 bohemoth kind of guy, the big guy, it's Hernandez. Yeah, 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.680 he's the guy. Okay, that's that's the fifth fifth. He's 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.160 both because I think he I think he could. Yeah, 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.360 I got some questions about you know, okay, three hundred 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.839 forty pounds, could he lose some weight and stuff? I 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.560 don't think he doesn't. He doesn't. He's not a sloppy guy, no, 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.000 not at all. He carries it very well. He moves 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.200 very well. He does not need to. I mean, he 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.840 needs to make sure that weight doesn't balloon the three fifty, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.400 but at three forty, I have no problem with him 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.000 keeping that weight and still fitting zone schemes, movement pull. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.240 He can get out in space and be just fine. Yeah, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.360 I'll tell you what those were a couple of things. Now, 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.319 let me ask you this though, the fact that the 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.959 draft show is about the draft. You know, we are 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:11.280 Dallas Cowboys folks here, but it's just about the draft. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.280 I want to get into the quarterbacks real quick. Yeah, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.400 you know, and that really the marquee names we're on 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.760 that we're on that north side, and it came down 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:27.160 to with Alan and it also came down from Mayfield. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.000 Just your initial thoughts about what you saw both quarterbacks 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.640 today throwing the football. Josh Allen was at least in 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.000 this first practice exactly what we saw on tape right Wyoming. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.920 He'll have some throws where you watch it and it's 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.920 just it's beautiful, right it zip with the arm placement, timing, 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.480 it just looks like an NFL throw, big time throw. 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.440 We saw that today. But half the time you're impressed. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.760 Half the time the ball placement's off, the timing's off, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.960 and you know, in a setting like this, you kind 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.640 of give a pass to quarterbacks. They've never worked with 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.880 these receivers before. You know, it's against air, it's not 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.800 against a defense. Yes, well, talking about some of the 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.520 some of these drills, but with Allen, it was just 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.880 the same thing we saw at Wyoming. Yeah, half of 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.920 it's great, half of it's inaccurate throws with a lot 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.959 of issues. So we'll see. The big thing with quarterbacks 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:23.920 is progression through the week. I mean with all of 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.600 these guys, but especially with these quarterbacks, will we get 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.080 better from Tuesday to Wednesday to Thursday. But Josh Allen, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.320 he's got a lot of money riding on this week. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.480 And I mean I say that, but even when we 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.640 get to the combine and beyond, teams will still make 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.760 excuses for him for some of his mistakes. He's just 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.600 he's one of the most fascinating prospects that we've seen, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.120 you know, in all the years we've been doing this. Yeah, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.200 I think to me and I have some notes to 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.880 like twelve thoughts going up on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.120 from the practice, And I wanted to ask you that 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:59.040 because with Josh Allen, there's no question in the armed talent, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.880 there's no question. I don't think he knows where the 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.520 ball's going. No, I really don't. And and there were 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.840 times where his receivers did a nice job getting open 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.240 on some incuts and the ball wasn't even close. And 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.840 You're right, it could be a situation where I'm not 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.600 used to working with a guy. You know, but you're thinking, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:21.800 if a guy's open, hit him, because you know you're 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.120 not getting hit. This is a this is a practice situation, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:30.080 so make an accurate throw. If I was watching that today, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.600 I would say, like you said, boy, there is a 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.839 lot of tape that I saw where I saw this. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.480 I was gonna say, I mean, it's great that he's 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.120 not this is an unfamiliar environment for him. But doesn't 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.360 the stats bear that out too. Yeah, No, that's what 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.920 I'm saying. I mean, he but somebody's gonna fall in 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.520 love with this guy. Somebody will fall in love with 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.640 plenty of guys have already fallen. I mean, hey, we'll 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.240 see how this week, how it affects everything moving forward. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.000 I would I'd absolutely be in love with him if 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.400 you were talking about second or third round pick, but 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.960 like top fifteen pick, right, Yeah, I'm the guy I 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.640 like to boil down things to just be as simple 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.200 as possible, right, And maybe that's not fair, but like 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.960 if you can't complete sixty percent in the Mountain West, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.680 I'm just terrified. Yeah, it's the draft comes down to 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:19.800 evaluation and then evaluation evaluations, figuring out who he's going 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.480 to be at the next level for every prospect, and 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.400 then the valuation is trying to put a value on him, 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.880 because that's just as important as the evaluation part because 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.880 you have to know, Okay, where am I going to 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:32.880 be able to get this guy? And the value is 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.160 sky high for Josh Allen right now, and who knows, 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.360 things changed. We still have a long way to go, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.360 but it's I mean, I still think he's going to 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.200 go somewhere in the top ten to fifteen picks. Se quarterback. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.439 Desperate teams are out there. I'll flip the other way 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.040 on Baker Mayfield having to travel then he had the 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.319 family issue with this and we don't have exact measurements. Yeah, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.439 we don't have exact measurements on him and all that, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.600 but I will tell you this though, watching him in 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:02.040 pre practice take snaps from underne center and drop the 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.960 first two that he had and then watch. You know, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.960 Mike Sullivan, the quarterback coach at Denver work with his feet, 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.680 you know, and trying to get him. You know, the 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.240 coaches in that situation are just like, here we go. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.280 All right. No, it's just you know, I think they no. No, 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.800 the fact I'm gonna applaud both him and Alan for 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:26.040 showing up absolutely no, because he could go this to me. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.240 And again, this is something else I wrote about today 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.880 or this evening. I feel like though this is the 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:37.000 start where now he will know where he has to work. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.600 You know, this week of practice will be real clear 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.040 to him. It won't be Hey, listen, I've got to 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.600 work on my feet. I've got to work on my drop. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.720 I gotta work on where the you know, where I 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.680 put my shoulder where me This guy could throw the football, 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.760 there's no question he could throw the football, but mechanically 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:57.560 can he do the things necessary in the pocket to 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.560 get away from so now people will play him in 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.840 the gun, there's no question about that. But he's gonna 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.720 have to play from underneath sit or some you know, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.440 And that's where I think that this week will help him. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.240 But for me, all right, forget his mechanics to get 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.760 everything like the two things about Baker Mayfield is like 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.600 a lot, like a lot like our own. Dez Bryant 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.000 really is like the two things about him is he 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.680 a super competitor or is he a punk? Like those 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.800 are really that's the right And the fact that he's here, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.520 I mean, the Heisman Trophy winner, all of that. I 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.960 lean more toward competitor than punk. I mean, not that 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.600 you make the whole evaluation on that, but that goes 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.520 a long way. Like I mean, the guy that just 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.960 won the Heisman Trophy coming, you know, most of the guy. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.880 I mean, you know, in this day and age, the 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.960 number one go hid well, well, the number one overall pick, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.760 Like not that these guys aren't talented, but the real 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.880 super freaks are the juniors. You know what I mean? 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.880 You know, the number one overall pick will probably be 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.080 a junior if I had to guess. And so not 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:56.840 that I don't want to call this second tier, but 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:58.440 you know what I mean, Like, he doesn't have to 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.720 do this, He could go to the combo. I applaud 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.280 him because the fact that he's here, it says, I mean, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.720 I agree, I totally agree. I have a new respect 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.400 for him because he is the highest of trophy winner. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.000 But I have respect because he knows his shortcomings. I 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.600 think he I think he does. I think this week 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.960 will tell him. All right, man, this this pro coach, 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.760 you know, it was telling me and I need to 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.560 you know, I need to get hit it on this 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.600 step or I need to turn my shoulder. I need 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.920 a guy like him. And I know Sam Darnold and 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.320 Josh Rose and aren't eligible anyway, but like they're like 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.480 more prototypical quarterbacks who are supposed to be able to 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.160 do this type of stuff anyway, they would have more 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.800 to lose. Like everybody knows this guy is coming from 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.880 a you know, a more college spread system, Like he's 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.160 he's what you would call a project anyway, Like he 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.960 doesn't have anything to lose. He's not supposed to come 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.480 out here and look awesome, right, so just come compete. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.680 And he did, and so I appreciate that he got 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:58.520 better throughout throughout practice, especially in the team part of 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.680 the drill where you know he you could tell he's 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.320 just a competitor. I mean, I need to feel like 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.719 we're that's the buzzword with with Baker. But it fits 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.720 it just it fits who his play style it fits. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.760 You know how he performs when the lights are on, 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.359 he just he steps up and he just does it. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.639 You know, He's just a natural play in the quarterback position. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:22.920 Why am I so in love with Shaqim Griffin? Because? Why? 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.760 Why am I so in love with him? The the 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.199 linebacker from Central Florida? Because how do how do you 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.840 not if you don't, if you don't like Chachim Griffin? 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.919 And when he offers, tell me why? I you know 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.919 what we saw all that tape and I hate to 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.840 keep talking about him, but to see him live, yeah, 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.480 I mean I I just I can't even the words 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:47.040 for me. Him rushing the passer and stuff today and 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.159 they were dropping him in some things. I mean, we 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.920 got to figure it out. I mean, we got to 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.080 figure out where he goes. I mean it's always always know, 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:57.000 yeah it is. That's my guy today. Let's get down 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.560 to brass techs. Where are you drafting him? You're taking 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.439 him in the fourth? Aren't you? Total badass? No missing 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.359 a hand? Yeah again, because you have to again the 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.159 valuation part of this. What is he a starter? I 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:12.480 can't keep myself from watching him play. That's the that's 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.880 the scout in me. Looking at him and going that 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.400 guy right there and makes plays, and then and then 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.480 and then all of a sudden, I'm like, but Brian, 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.920 he doesn't have a left hand, and he's two hundred 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.480 and twenty three pounds, and where are you gonna play him? 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.960 He's a tick above six foot. If you have a 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.280 how just makes plays. If you have a specific role 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.080 for him, then you know, yeah, put him on the 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.080 field and him tackle people. That's my role for if 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.720 it only is that easy? Yeah, I wait, you know 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.160 you're talking to a guy. I'm doing radio now because 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.399 I couldn't find enough guys like him. Well. One thing 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:47.080 I thought was interesting was the Texans practice. This is 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.399 an All Star game. It's four three bass? Oh what 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.920 do they do with him? During the Houston? Yeah practice, 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.040 they mixed in a little three fourth. They sure did. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.960 They sure did. From USC same thing. Stand him up, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.560 let him. Yeah, another guy, another guy that nobody could 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.160 block today. Yeah, when you get when you coach these guys, 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:04.440 you get to do what you want. You're like, you 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.320 know what, let's see what this guy can do. You 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.800 know what? They were doing everybody a favor though, Yeah, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.960 they were. They were doing everybody a favorite. That's what 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.920 these coaches to do that. I mean, wow, going way back, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.760 Marcus Smith from Louisville did the same thing, like she 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.119 moved in and out. Yeah, they do that. Do you 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.560 have a player today fell in love? Don't fall in 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.520 love with my guy because he's my guy. I don't 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.720 think I was too surprised by anything. I mean, the 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.520 Fort Hayes d tackle I like a lot. Talk about 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.240 him a little bit, Shepherd. That might be a tell 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:34.920 me more guy one day. Right. Yeah, he dominated a 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.000 D two tape, so you know, it's kind of one 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.280 of those things where you have high expectations, but you 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.560 kind of you temper them a little bit based on, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.800 you know, the competition he was going up against on 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.320 that tape. But he came here and he proved he belonged. Uh, 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.960 big guy power, but he also moves. He's nimble. Uh. 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.520 One of my favorites of Harrison Phillips. Uh. Stanford. There's 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.919 a Stanford guy, and I talked to him today. You're 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.320 about higher on him real quick. Tell me about what Harris. 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.400 Give me a person, give me a personal He went 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:14.800 to Stanford obviously in and I um, I thought it 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.200 was really interesting because the main thing he was talking about, 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.679 and that a lot of these guys tackle, yeah, well, 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.359 like what what do you do well? What don't you 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.000