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Speaker 2: So I think we all agree we're just kind of

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Speaker 3: I guess it's part. You know the water's right.

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Speaker 2: I guess I can see the water from right here.

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Speaker 2: But let's tip into the mailbag. Question for the bag

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Speaker 2: is from Nick. How much do players, coaches, and executives

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Speaker 2: you trade for Miles Scarrett, you're paying Miles Garrett. Like

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Speaker 2: when you trade multiple first rounders for Miles Garrett, you're

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Speaker 2: you're giving him probably one hundred and thirty hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty million dollars guaranteed. So that's part of the thing.

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Speaker 2: I would say. I think all the teams in the

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Speaker 2: NFC North, the Packers, the Lions, the We'll see what

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Speaker 2: you know, the Vikings could have a lot of money

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Speaker 2: if they just go to JJ. I think all four

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Speaker 2: teams are going to be heavily involved in Washington. And

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Speaker 2: what do they have in common? You know, obviously JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Jane Daniel, you know rookie quarterbacks. Another question

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Speaker 2: about the Bears trading for him. I'm telling you it's

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Speaker 2: one of those things that's like if they do officially

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Speaker 2: put him on the market. I know he asked for

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Speaker 2: a trade, they claimed he's not. They're gonna have conversations,

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Speaker 2: and I would guess. I mean, there are some teams,

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Speaker 2: like the Chiefs, that they would trade for him in

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Speaker 2: a heartbeat, but they just financially can't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just not.

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Speaker 2: It's not a possibility right with the financial constraints.

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Speaker 3: But I would say any.

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Speaker 2: Team that even has a glimmer of hope in terms

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Speaker 2: has the draft picks have already called the Browns what

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Speaker 2: would it cost. I know you said you're not gonna

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Speaker 2: trade them, but if you did, what would it cost?

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Speaker 2: If you did, what would a package look like? And

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Speaker 2: if you're interested, let us know. We would like to

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Speaker 2: talk to his agent about, you know, creating an extension

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Speaker 2: for when we do trade for him.

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Speaker 2: Big Broncos Fan, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the Broncos as a threat to the Chiefs and the

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Speaker 2: playoffs going forward. After watching us play them this year,

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Speaker 2: I can't help but think that we might have their number.

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Speaker 2: I was truly hoping that we got to face them

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs this year. In Knick's first game against Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: he arguably outplayed him and a block field goal away

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Speaker 2: from winning the game. If we get him a few

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Speaker 2: more offensive weapons and he takes some steps forward, I

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Speaker 2: feel extremely confident in the Broncos. If we were to

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Speaker 2: face Kansas City in the playoffs, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: decent chance we are their biggest threat in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts well.

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Speaker 2: As I sit here in New Orleans for the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are getting ready to strap it up on

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Speaker 2: Sunday for not their first, now their second, now their third,

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Speaker 2: not their fourth, their fifth super Bowl in six years.

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Speaker 2: So I have a hard time. I know you played

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Speaker 2: him tight in a random regular season game, and you

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Speaker 2: got a good defense, you got a good head coach.

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Speaker 2: I saw Sean Payton was here hanging out with Gruden.

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Speaker 3: You know this.

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Speaker 2: I mean he used to be his town for a

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Speaker 2: long period of time. I have a hard time going, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Broncos are going to be their biggest

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Speaker 2: contender again. It doesn't mean you can't play them well

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Speaker 2: moving forward. But part of being a Super Bowl contender

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Speaker 2: is it just like, oh, yeah, we match up well

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. You just got a curb stomp by

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Speaker 2: the Bills. You think you match up with the Bills

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens. I mean, I have a let's just

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Speaker 2: let's just try to go back to back double digit

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Speaker 2: win seasons. That'd be a big accomplishment getting back to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. I have a hard time saying that the

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Speaker 2: Broncos with bow nicks are going to be the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: biggest foe in the AFC, especially when I mean the

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Speaker 2: Bills have gone toe to toe with them several times

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens did lose the game seventeen to ten.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs played just in a lot of tight games.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to you know, take a leak

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Speaker 2: on your parade here, but.

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Speaker 3: I would pump the brakes a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Another Broncos fan lifelong and Broncos fan, I gotta say

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Speaker 2: this was a much needed as far as finally taking

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Speaker 2: a step in the right direction. With that being said,

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Speaker 2: what would you say is the next step for the

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Speaker 2: Broncos to help bo Knicks for a sophomore season. I

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Speaker 2: think there are I think both AFC West teams to

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Speaker 2: take the next step. Defensively, they're gonna be good, right

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Speaker 2: The Chargers probably got a little.

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Speaker 3: More figure out on defense.

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Speaker 2: Both of them. To me get a legit bell cow

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Speaker 2: running back, you don't need Saquon Barkley, you don't need

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey in his prime. But can you just get

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Speaker 2: a guy like Yeah, we feel just good about this

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Speaker 2: guy being our starter. This guy actually is a high

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Speaker 2: end starter. You know, when the Raiders drafted Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: I think they took him in the mid twenties, and

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Speaker 2: I think they are gonna be a ton of guys

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Speaker 2: and this is an excellent running back class. That can

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Speaker 2: you get a guy I don't know in the second

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Speaker 2: or third round, who's just your starting running back for

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Speaker 2: the next half decade and just is a threat to

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00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: go for thirteen, fourteen to fifteen hundred yards and a

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Speaker 2: guy that you can ride in big games, in cold

550
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Speaker 2: weather games and just can have twenty to twenty five

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Speaker 2: carries throughout.

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Speaker 3: The majority of the season.

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Speaker 2: I think that is the number one key or one

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Speaker 2: of the biggest keys for the Chargers and the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: just to get a guy's like we got a sweet

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Speaker 2: running back. I heard you say the mount rushmore of

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Speaker 2: NFL coaches, but I rarely hear anyone speak of Joe

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Speaker 2: Gibbs in the same company of Bill Walsh, Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: and Bill Belichicks. Gibbs won three Super Bowls in a

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Speaker 2: ten season timeframe, and one with three different non Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame quarterbacks. Then, against all odds, hopped over to NASCAR,

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Speaker 2: where he has won five championships as a car owner.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, he's one of the greatest sports leaders

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Speaker 2: of all time, but I rarely hear his name mentioned.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering if you ever had an opinion as

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Speaker 2: to why was it because he was pretty non conventional

567
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Speaker 2: of a quiet temperament, or didn't yell at his players.

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Speaker 2: Would love to hear your thoughts ps you should call

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Speaker 2: him the middleman. I like outsiders a lot more middlemen.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question about Joe Gibbs. I think there's

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Speaker 2: something about yelling and being an aggressive, confrontational human back

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Speaker 2: in like the seventies and eighties. Like think of the

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Speaker 2: most famous coaches in the eighties, right Walsh. But Walsh

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Speaker 2: was like the offensive genius and then it was a

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Speaker 2: bunch of Parcels Screamer, Ditka, Buddy Ryan screamers. The Raiders won,

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Speaker 2: but his coaches didn't get credit. Al Davis did. I

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Speaker 2: don't know's that's a great question because you're right when

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Speaker 2: it comes to like sporting lives. He's had an elite

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Speaker 2: sporting life three Super Bowls. I do wonder if like

580
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: the stink of Dan Snyder took away from everything they

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Speaker 2: accomplished in the eighties, because when you think.

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Speaker 3: About, like.

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Speaker 2: Some other franchises that started winning again were one in

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Speaker 2: the two thousands or twenty tens, it brings back up

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Speaker 2: to light what happened back in the day, like the

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Speaker 2: Giants winning their two Super Bowls. It kind of brings

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Speaker 2: back to light. You know, Parcels and Belichick in the

588
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Speaker 2: eighties with Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of another example.

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Speaker 2: I think anytime that you win, it just puts your

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Speaker 2: franchise on a higher pedestal, and the coaches who are

592
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Speaker 2: behind winning previous kind of get mentioned and talked about.

593
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: And for multiple decades the Washington commanders were so bad

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Speaker 2: and you start going generations of people like I don't

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Speaker 2: remember Joe Gibbs as a coach at all. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm a good example of if Washington. If Washington and

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia flip flopped, and Washington had been the Eagles for

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Speaker 2: the last twenty plus years and won a lot, I

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Speaker 2: think we would talk a lot more about Joe Gibbs.

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Speaker 2: That's just a guess too. A great name would be

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Speaker 2: the Kafia. Credit goes to the YouTube. Come that section

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Speaker 2: the Kaffia. I don't hate that. Since you're able to

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Speaker 2: golf year round, you're so lucky. Could you tell the

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Speaker 2: pod what's in your bag this upcoming year? Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the sports Life.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that on another podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's actually not I've had the same clubs for years.

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Speaker 2: Is it crazy to think Tom Brady, a Michigan man,

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Speaker 2: had extra incentive to pay Chip Kelly because it would

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Speaker 2: take away from Ohio State. Now because Ryan Day, chip

611
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Speaker 2: Kelly was high, like the highest or one of the

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Speaker 2: highest paid coordinators in college football. So whoever Ryan Day

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Speaker 2: wants to fill in his role, like if he wants

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Speaker 2: to steal someone from another program, he will. I just

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Speaker 2: think that they looked around, they couldn't get a couple

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Speaker 2: guys that they wanted. And as someone told me last night,

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Speaker 2: I don't know the guy's name, but one of the

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Speaker 2: people with Brady that bought in to the Raiders is

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Speaker 2: super rich and is cutting massive checks for all this

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Speaker 2: shit like that. This is not Mark Davis three years ago,

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Speaker 2: before the Brady venture capitalist acquisition of a percentage of

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Speaker 2: his team, would not have given chip Kelly six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I got news for you. No one else in the

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Speaker 2: NFL would have done that. But they know Bill Simmons

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Speaker 2: calls it this new owner syndrome. Well, they got this

626
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Speaker 2: guy who's flushed with cash, who I think Pete Carroll

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Speaker 2: probably said, we're a little desperate here. I don't have

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Speaker 2: many good options, and they gave him six million dollars,

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Speaker 2: which is the highest paid coordinator in the NFL. That's

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Speaker 2: more money than Steve Spagnola and Vic Fangio, like, that's

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Speaker 2: to me pretty crazy, But I don't think it had

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Speaker 2: anything to do with Ohio State. I think he had

633
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Speaker 2: more to do with they started looking around the landscape.

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Speaker 2: They weren't comfortable with any of the guys that were

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Speaker 2: going to hire, and they thought he was the best option,

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Speaker 2: which I still think is kind of crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: Someone else brought up the name the Scouts, the Outsiders,

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Speaker 2: the Scouts, I might as well distortedly clothing brand and

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Speaker 2: use all these the.

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Speaker 3: Crew of the K.

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Speaker 2: Scouts Outsiders first time Dmer. I live in Tucson, crossing

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Speaker 2: my fingers to see you randomly on a golf course

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Speaker 2: in Scoutsdale one of these days. I remember a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago you saying, and when you first started

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Speaker 2: as a Scout, you got to pick up and take

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Speaker 2: players at the airport. I was wondering if you could

647
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Speaker 2: share any funny, crazy stories from those times. I would say,

648
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: for the most part, when you were picking up veteran players,

649
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: they were relatively quiet or cool, like if you were

650
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: signing a veteran player, bring them in for a workout.

651
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: If we didn't sign them, take them back. They acted

652
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: I don't remember anything out of the ordinary at all

653
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: when you would have those things. And I'm sure you

654
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: see these headlines the top thirty visits meaning you can

655
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: bring in thirty guys in the draft class to your facility.

656
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean like your top thirty players. It

657
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: could be guys in the second, third, fifth round, character questions,

658
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: people you want to meet, and one thing, I remember

659
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: a group of like three or four guys taking them

660
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: back to the airport, and then I forget exactly what

661
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: the conversation was, but I remember it not being great.

662
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: And anytime, you know how he used to call kind

663
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: of a con man if you showed up to a

664
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: top thirty visit in a three piece suit, like you

665
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: should show up to the top thirty visit in normal clothes, right, Honestly,

666
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: you could wear a sweatsuit of your college team, let alone,

667
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: just pair of jeans and a tea shirt and hoodie.

668
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: But if you show up and you're a character red

669
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: flag to the top thirty visit in a suit, that

670
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: is a major red flag. It's like, bro, what are

671
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: we doing here? And I remember a guy in a suit.

672
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: I forget the player. There were several players. It was

673
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: like from the same college team. They had a bunch

674
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: of draftable players and a couple of them were kind

675
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: of question marks. And I remember them saying, like, just

676
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: start talking to each other in the back because they

677
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: were college teammates, and thinking like, I'm taking some metal

678
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: notes and I'm gonna tell these guys when i get back.

679
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 3: We obviously didn't draft them.

680
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't think a guy had a long career, but

681
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you know, for these guys, you're just

682
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: you're just trying to convince there's so much money in

683
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: the line if you've been in trouble, or if you're

684
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: just a bad guy, right and you're just not a

685
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: just someone that like your coach doesn't like you in college,

686
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: like you just got a lot of redfu. It doesn't

687
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: mean as time goes on you won't mature in life,

688
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: but you know, you just start kind of putting on

689
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: a con and you pretend to be something you're not,

690
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: and then once you relax.

691
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: You kind of turn. It's like a politician.

692
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: I always think with politicians, like are they actually like

693
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: this or it's just the camera's on. The camera's off.

694
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: It's like they're off, you know, It's like twenty twenty,

695
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: The Master Wrong. When the cameras are on, the cameras

696
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: off boom, that thing comes off. Same thing with these

697
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: guys trying to convince a team that whatever happened to

698
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: them in college is not actually who they are. It's

699
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: just a bad moment, and I think, you know, sometimes

700
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: they they kind of drop their focus level on who's listening,

701
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: and maybe just a younger guy drive him around, a

702
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: guy in their twenties not as focused, and you just

703
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: drop character and all of a sudden you say something

704
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: that you don't even realize you said, and it gets back.

705
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: Are we finally going to see a Mahomes behind the

706
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: back pass in the Super Bowl? I would doubt it.

707
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you get a Mahomes behind

708
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: the back pass, it would more than likely be out

709
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: of desperation, not because he's trying to do it behind

710
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: the back pass. You can't afford, you know, if the

711
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: thing hits off his back and it's a fumble. Turnovers

712
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: are too big of a deal in the playoffs to

713
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: risk something like that. Love the show, listen. I do

714
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: have a question as far as the Chiefs receiving favorable calls.

715
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: I'd be interested if a stat can be pulled on

716
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 2: the Chiefs drives in regular season and playoffs that were

717
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: continued by a third down penalty and resulted in a score,

718
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: I'd be interested to see when they where they stand

719
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: compared to other teams in the NFL and that stat.

720
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: I know it sounds nuanced, but it feels like it

721
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: would be a huge indicator of favorable calls. I saw

722
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: someone break down like the Bills had more fifteen yard

723
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: penalties called throughout the season than the Chiefs. Like you said,

724
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: this is the playoffs, I would guess in general, if

725
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: you have a personal foul called on a drive, the

726
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: percentage chance that you are going to score points goes

727
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: up exponentially. You know, whatever your whatever your drive chart

728
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: is to score a field goal plus right, let's just

729
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: say it's I'm just going to pick a number. Thirty

730
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: five to forty percent, right, is the percentage of times

731
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: that you score on a drive. So like a little

732
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: under half, either either a touchdown or a field goal.

733
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: If you get a fifteen yard penalty on a drive.

734
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: So about now the new kickoff role. If you start

735
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: at the thirty or the thirty five yard line, if

736
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: you get a fifteen yard penalty, especially if you've already

737
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: got like a first down, you're already close, like not

738
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: that far away from the red zone. Like if you

739
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: start at the thirty five and you've gotten a first down,

740
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: you're like the forty eight and all of a sudden

741
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: you get a first down. I mean, you're close to,

742
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: like the thirty five yard line. You're like a first

743
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: down away from being in the red zone. So fifteen

744
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: yard penalty fuels only one hundred yards, and you're not

745
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: starting at zero most of the time, at minimum, you're

746
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: starting now with the new kickoff role, it's very rare

747
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 2: to see someone started at the twenty, So you're probably

748
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: pretty close to the twenty five or the thirty yard line.

749
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: So if I just give you a free fifteen yards,

750
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: you're pretty fucking close to midfield. That's my issue with

751
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: and I think pass interference of some of these, I

752
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: do believe the passing interference should go to a fifteen

753
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: yard penalty, because when I get a pass interference, even

754
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: if it is pass interference, if you get a free

755
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: thirty forty yards, like that's that just seems ridiculous to me.

756
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: Will the NFL ever consider holding the super Bowl on

757
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: a Saturday. I feel like it could become an even

758
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: bigger event than it already is. It's a good question,

759
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, if you're not going to have the super

760
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: Bowl before a holiday, I would say a large percentage

761
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: of people have to go to work on Monday morning.

762
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, I do not like

763
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: being hungover on a Monday morning. So if you really

764
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: want to get after it and enjoy yourself, it is much.

765
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Easier to do on a Friday night or Saturday night.

766
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: Right. So if they had it on Saturday night, would

767
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: the ratings?

768
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: Would less people watch?

769
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: I don't think they would, because, like you said, you

770
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: would build It's not like a random Saturday.

771
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, the super bowls on Saturday.

772
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: You would know all year long, so your life would

773
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: be built around that. Now, I think the pushback might

774
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: be some people with you know, kids, events happen on

775
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Saturday that are out of your control. But it's a

776
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: night game. I'm not a posed to that. I do

777
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: wonder if there's just the NFL is a Sunday sport.

778
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: Sunday's their day.

779
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: There's something with consumer habits that play on Sunday. It's

780
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: always a little weird, even when in December when they

781
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: start playing on Saturdays. There's got to be something to

782
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: just habits of the viewer. I hear what you're saying.

783
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: I would doubt that they ever do move that though,

784
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: huge Eagles fan. With Kellen more likely to leave for

785
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: the Saints. Who do you think are some of the

786
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: best candidates for the OC job? Mike McCarthy. I love

787
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: the show, keeping with the good work. I think it's

788
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: gonna be I think all signs point to being I

789
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: think Kevin Petullo. I might be saying his name wrong,

790
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure he is currently. Uh. He's the

791
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: pass game coordinator for the Eagles. So he's worked with

792
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: Sirianni with the Colts, where he was the wide receiver coach.

793
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: He joined the Eagles when Sirianni got the job as

794
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: the pass game coordinator. Now he's the pass game coordinator

795
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: associate head coach. I think all signs point to him

796
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: being the next offensive coordinator.

797
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 3: Uh, listen, I.

798
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: Mean anytime that you have one of these things happened.

799
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: The one thing why they like Kellen Morris he had

800
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: called play for a long time. And the other thing

801
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: is he had called plays for a long time in

802
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: the division. Now the division changed. But when dan Quinn

803
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: went to the Cowboys, like we'll think who Kellen Moore

804
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: was up against the practice. So he's used to them,

805
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: you know, the Giants personnel, he's very comfortable with that.

806
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: And anytime you go with the first time play caller,

807
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: remember the Eagles did it with Brian Johnson. Now, granted,

808
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: I think Brian johnsonid call plays in college for the

809
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: for Utah, but it was a first time play caller

810
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

811
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: It gets it's just risk.

812
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: But if you make that move, I would imagine that

813
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: you're comfortable with his relationship with the quarterback, with the personnel,

814
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: with Howie the donor likes you.

815
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: So I think that all factors in. But you know,

816
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 3: by all.

817
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 2: Accounts, it looks like it's going to be him. We'll

818
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: see if I can find a couple more Bears fan

819
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: win on this this offseason, whether it be free agency

820
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: or the draft, we're looking for bolstering both sides of

821
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. One name that's been out there

822
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 2: in terms of free agency is Tray Smith. I've had

823
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: my eye on Trey Smith since he was a rookie

824
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: and noticed he's one of the few linemen in the

825
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: NFL that is an absolute mastadon that plays with violence

826
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: the way Trent Williams. My only concern is he's now

827
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: going to play in his third trade Super Bowl? Does

828
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 2: that factor in that he's played three extended seasons consecutively,

829
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: because any cause, any concern if you were going to

830
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: sign him, he was a player that came up last

831
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: night as well. By all accounts, people think that his

832
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: I asked, like could he get seventy million dollars on

833
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: the open market? Like could he get a four year,

834
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar contract? Was sixty to seventy guaranteed.

835
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 2: A lot of people thought that, you know, his number

836
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: is going.

837
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 3: To be over twenty million dollars a year.

838
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: So no, it's not going to as long as he

839
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: does not get injured in the Super Bowl. He is

840
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: going to break the bank this offseason. And I think

841
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: it's going to be difficult for the Chiefs to keep him.

842
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Not and they love him, they don't like him, they

843
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: love him, but it's just it gets expensive. I mean,

844
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: cats they want to keep him, but all of a

845
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: sudden he hits free agency. I mean a lot of

846
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: people think the Bears. Ryan Poles know some it's expensive.

847
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: I mean the Chiefs tried to sign him last year

848
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: and he said no because a team friendly deal. I

849
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna get paid and he ain't wrong, So

850
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: I think the Bears. But they're gonna have competition. I

851
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: mean there are a lot of teams. Look at Washington, like,

852
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: they got a lot of money. They give you some players.

853
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: Look at Minnesota, they got a lot of money. They

854
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: give you some offensive lineman. Look at the Patriots, they

855
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: got a lot of money. They could use some offensive lineman.

856
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: His market people thought it was nuts. When I said, like,

857
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna could he get eighty million dollars guaranteed?

858
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: He's like, oh no. I'm like, there is so much

859
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: money out there and it's just gonna be a bidding process.

860
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: Like how do some of these houses, Like oh, went

861
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: on the market for a million? They ended up getting

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Speaker 2: one too well, three people wanted it, and they kept

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Speaker 2: bitting against each other and drove the price up. That's

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Speaker 2: what happens in free agency. That's why these guys get

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Speaker 2: deals with they don't get as much because there's no

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Speaker 2: one bidding for their services beside the team. Well, think

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Speaker 2: who's bidding on you when you're I mean, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be one of the best free agents at a position

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Speaker 2: where teams are desperate for offensive linemen. It's like, well,

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Speaker 2: he's one of the best offensive linemen for the best

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Speaker 2: team in the league, who's a high character, like you said, badass.

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Speaker 2: It's like, wait, he's a starter on a dynasty, whose

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Speaker 2: character is elite, whose play style is violence and aggressive,

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Speaker 2: and he's blocked for one of the great players in

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Speaker 3: I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be one of the top

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Speaker 2: free agents for a lot of teams that have money,

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Speaker 2: because there any team could use a guy like Tray Smith.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, you know the Bears, I would

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Speaker 2: imagine he might be their number one target, But are

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Speaker 2: they willing to.

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Speaker 3: Break the bank for him?

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Speaker 2: I would imagine Ben Johnson, who just came from the Lions,

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Speaker 2: where offensive line was pretty freaking good and was a

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Speaker 2: huge reason they were so good, is going to be

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Speaker 2: all over this guy. So yeah, Tray Smith, Bears, I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people are gonna start circling that,

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Speaker 2: But they're gonna have a lot of competition for services.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate everyone listening. We'll be back in Scottsdale tomorrow night

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Speaker 2: and we'll record a little open for the podcast I

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Speaker 2: did with Stucky and we will talk soon.

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Speaker 3: Audios the volume