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Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show and

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Speaker 1: a magnificent Wednesday. We are going to get to some

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Speaker 1: of the communists response to all that stuff from last night.

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Speaker 1: But I told you an hour ago what was coming now,

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Speaker 1: and now it has arrived. We are doing a special

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Medal of Honor Monday only. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's not that Medal of Honor Wednesday either way. Couple

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Speaker 1: gentlemen last night, couple beasts. They had already earned the

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Speaker 1: Medal of Honor, and last night they got it draped

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Speaker 1: around their necks. And I thought it would be appropriate

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Speaker 1: since the citations are now publicly available, to read said

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Speaker 1: Medal of Honor citation, and so let's do the first one.

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Speaker 1: The first one is the helicopter pilot guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you remember when we went into Caracas in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night. You roll your ars when you speak Spanish. Christ,

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Speaker 1: when we went into Karakas in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 1: we didn't lose a man, right, it was flawless. It

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Speaker 1: was flawless, but they were shooting back and we did

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Speaker 1: have people hit. Now, imagine taking one bullet in the legs. One,

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Speaker 1: you got shot in the leg. Imagine the pain. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when's the last time you stubbed your toe or hit

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Speaker 1: your shin on something. Now, imagine taking a bullet in

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Speaker 1: your leg. Now, imagine taking multiple bullets in your leg,

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Speaker 1: and you can't lay down and call for mommy. You

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Speaker 1: are flying a helicopter and you continue to fly it masterfully.

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Speaker 1: Mister eric A. Slover, United States Army Chief Warren Officer

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Speaker 1: five got his Medal of Honor last night.

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Speaker 2: Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond its Medal

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Speaker 2: of Honor Monday.

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Speaker 1: Chief Warren Officer five, Eric A. Slover distinguished himself by

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Speaker 1: conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty.

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Speaker 1: On January third, twenty twenty six, during a mission in

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Speaker 1: Venezuela in support of Operation Absolute Resolve, Chief Warren Officer

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Speaker 1: five Slover piloted his MH forty seven as the lead

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Speaker 1: aircraft of the operation, tasked with executing a highly complex

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Speaker 1: military forces during ingress. That's the Chief Warren Officer five

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Speaker 1: Slovers skillfully led the helicopter force through a dense jungle

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Speaker 1: valley in a mountainous region, navigating marginal weather conditions, numerous

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Speaker 1: topographical hazards, and near insurmountable surface to air threats. Upon

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Speaker 1: five Slover's aircraft was immediately engaged by multiple machine gun

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Speaker 1: positions at close range. The hostile fire resulted in fifteen

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Speaker 1: armour piercing rounds entering his cockpit, with four rounds striking

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Speaker 1: at great personal risk, Chief Worn Officer five Slover maintained

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Speaker 1: After the force disembarked, and despite suffering significant life threatening injuries,

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Speaker 1: Chief Warren Officer five Slover identified hostile heavy machine gun

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Speaker 1: He maneuvered his aircraft to enable his door gunner to

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Speaker 1: deliver effective fire, successfully neutralizing the threats. Chief Warren Officer

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Speaker 1: five Slover's heroic actions undoubtedly saved countless American lives and

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Speaker 1: ensured the complete and overwhelming success of the mission. His

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Speaker 1: gallantry under fire and extraordinary valor are in keeping with

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Speaker 1: the highest traditions of military service, and reflect great credit

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Speaker 1: upon himself in the United States Army. Dag gone. Then

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Speaker 1: there was this one, which Trump mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Last night, now truly extraordinary American patriots. But there is

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Speaker 3: one last living legend to honor before we go. He

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Speaker 3: is one more heroic American Avia Navy fighter pilot Royce

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Speaker 3: Williams served in World War II Korea Vietnam, flying more

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Speaker 3: In nineteen fifty two, Royce was in the dogfight of

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Speaker 3: a lifetime legendary dog fight. Flying through blizzard conditions, his

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Speaker 3: squadron was ambushed by seven Soviet fighter planes. There was

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Speaker 3: while taking two hundred and sixty three bullets to his

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Speaker 3: for over fifty years. He didn't even want to tell

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Speaker 3: his wife, but the legend grew and grew. But tonight,

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Speaker 3: at one hundred years old, this brave Navy captain is

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Speaker 3: ask the First Lady of the United States to present

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Speaker 3: Captain Royce Williams with his Congressional Medal of Honor.

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Speaker 1: So let's read the citation for mister Elmer Royce Williams,

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Speaker 1: born in Wilmot, South Dakota, in nineteen twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. It's Medal

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Speaker 1: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life,

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Speaker 1: above and beyond the call of duty. On the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: Oriscani that was the name of the naval ship they

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Speaker 1: Williams demonstrated extraordinary heroism by intercepting a superior force of

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Speaker 1: one of the remaining enemy MiG fifteen's. Lieutenant Williams evaded

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Speaker 1: He eventually found cover in a cloud bank, broke off

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Speaker 1: the engagement, and miraculously landed his nearly uncontrollable aircraft on

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Speaker 1: the USS Oriskani. His exceptional airmanship, coupled with his complete

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Speaker 1: great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of

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Speaker 1: the US United States Naval Service. That was freakin' special.

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Speaker 1: That was special. He lived to be one hundred, and

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Speaker 1: we don't have hardly we don't have many World War

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Speaker 1: two veterans left World War Two Korea, Vietnam. Imagine dedicating

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Speaker 1: You actually make it to one hundred years old, And that,

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Speaker 1: You don't have any friends left, you don't have any

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Speaker 1: years old. And he gets a phone call one day, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we need to put you on a plane to Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC because somebody heard about what you did in Korea

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Speaker 1: over seventy years ago. And you're going to earn the

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Speaker 1: Medal of Honor. Is that not just the coolest thing

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Speaker 1: in the world. And Milania Donald Trump's wife, obviously Milania

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Speaker 1: Trump was the one who strapped it to his neck.

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Speaker 1: That's really really cool. It was an awesome moment. It

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Speaker 1: was a night of many, many awesome moments, the introduction

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Speaker 1: of the hockey team, and of course making Democrats look

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Speaker 1: stupid and and all the other things I love so much.

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Speaker 1: But he saved that one to the end. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Trump's such a showman. He knows what he's doing. He

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Speaker 1: the old Oracle with his frosty heart almost got a

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Speaker 1: little choked up. I said almost. Okay, I didn't get

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Speaker 1: choked up, but it was like someone was cutting onions

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Speaker 1: there for a minute. Anyway, or do some emails next.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on an amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing Wednesday. I'll hopday. So before I get to the emails,

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Speaker 1: remember I'm a cigar guy. Now, don't shake your head, Chris,

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Speaker 1: before I even get it out. So we have Carol

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Speaker 1: economy and other things. But you know, I haven't traditionally

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Speaker 1: those once every three years at a golf outing type thing.

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Speaker 1: But I had a couple in the month of December,

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Speaker 1: I think it was or January. One was New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: Decide to have a cigar. I think it looks very distinguished.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's very healthy though. So last night

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Speaker 1: for the State of the Union address. You know I've

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Speaker 1: told you my mentor is Michael Berry. He's the reason

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Speaker 1: much guidance. He's obviously wonderful, nationally syndicated radio guy. He's amazing,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's a friend, like we're good buddies. And

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Speaker 1: I as soon as the show was over, I took

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Speaker 1: off from Michael's house to watch the State of the

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Speaker 1: Union address with Michael, and he suggested we set out

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Speaker 1: for it and have a cigar, and I did it.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, Hm, I feel like I'm clearing

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Speaker 1: my throat a lot today. What what is funny, Chris?

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Speaker 1: I think a couple times on accident, I inhaled it

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Speaker 1: and that was really really harsh, and then it went

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Speaker 1: burning a little bit. I hope I didn't get cancer.

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Speaker 1: What what is it do? I think cigars maybe aren't

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Speaker 1: for me. No, I have to be a cigar guy.

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Speaker 1: I have to. I want to be. I want to

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Speaker 1: be that guy with a what's that thing? They keep

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Speaker 1: him in? Chris? It starts with an a uh, starts

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Speaker 1: with an h u A Lewinsky, Now a what Chris?

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Speaker 1: We can make jokes? A humid or A humid or?

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Speaker 1: I want a humidor? I nice one, one that's a

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Speaker 1: of it, one of the clip thingies. I saw a

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Speaker 1: people's fingers off, and I've wanted one ever since. Not

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Speaker 1: something manly about it, and I want to start being

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Speaker 1: more of a cigar guy. I just don't want it

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Speaker 1: to go up my nose anymore. And I'm doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of coughing and throat clearing today

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Speaker 1: and I stunk when I got home. I walked in

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Speaker 1: and AD was all, Oh my gosh, you smell like

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Speaker 1: an ashtrak what Chris. But Chris said, if I thought

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Speaker 1: about a pipe, here's my plan, because I have thought

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Speaker 1: about a pipe. My plan is I'm going to I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be a cigar guy until there's no more

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Speaker 1: color in my at all. I mean, it's already going gray,

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Speaker 1: but clearly I have some years left until it's full

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Speaker 1: out Santa Claus. As soon as it's full out Santa Claus,

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Speaker 1: I'm switching over to a pipe and I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be that guy. I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: a great plan. Bob didn't seem that supportive of it

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Speaker 1: when I when I mentioned it, and the boys already

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Speaker 1: are acting like I'm Keith Richards because I've had three

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Speaker 1: cigars in their lifetimes. I'm getting lectured by the boys.

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Speaker 1: A Dan, that's terrible for you, Damn as if I

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Speaker 1: need lectured by my sons. But I'm a cigar guy now.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what specific kinds of cigars they were,

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Speaker 1: but they were they were brown, and they were delicious.

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Speaker 1: Kind of, I'm kind of. It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad.

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Speaker 1: It's not my preferred vintage but it wasn't it wasn't bad. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Please explain the difference in the views on the filibuster,

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Speaker 1: and they're pros and cons. We have a filibuster because

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Speaker 4: All right, Jesse, Well, when you think about innovation, remember

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Speaker 1: OK. Here that leads me into, well, you just brought

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Speaker 4: whatever it is. You can pick the cheese. You can

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Speaker 1: My word I'm starving now, Carol, you are the best.

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Speaker 1: Come back soon, Thank you. Chris? Did you look it up?

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, Jewish producer Chris dug into this burger

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Speaker 1: We go to commercial break. We just got back. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I asked Chris, because I hadn't had a chance to

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Speaker 1: I'm telling him, Chris, the price it's a twenty dollars burger.

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Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I got that, Chris, I understand, but

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Speaker 1: how does it look? Well, you have to pay extra

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Speaker 1: for cheese. You have to pay extra for that. I

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Speaker 1: I wanted to know how the food looked. Instead, I've

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Speaker 1: So along the lines of family and young people, teenagers

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Speaker 1: He just loves to work, wants to work, doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: whether it's odd jobs, you name it. He's always yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm in. He just wants to work,

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Speaker 1: like edy boy. He likes video games, of course, and

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Speaker 1: does all that stuff. He's not just by hand on

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Speaker 1: a computer three D modeling like. He's just always been

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Speaker 1: into that stuff. Real, real talented. I don't have that,

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Speaker 1: whatever that is. God didn't give that to me. James

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Speaker 1: this crap, but do you know anyone in that industry

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Speaker 1: who might be interested in letting him intern. I'm not

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Speaker 1: looking for some nice gig or something like that. Let

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Speaker 1: him in turn sniff around. Buddy responds immediately, Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 1: work on it. I'll work on it. I know a

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Speaker 1: bunch of people. But he throws in the butt, and

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Speaker 1: I should have seen this coming, but AI makes it

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Speaker 1: hard now. And look, it's just one example, right, don't

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Speaker 1: go wrong. We'll figure things out. I'll figure it out

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Speaker 1: and James will figured it out, and we have whatever

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Speaker 1: God has for us. But I know that maybe you're

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Speaker 1: in that situation right now. Maybe you are that person

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Speaker 1: and you're slamming into a wall jobs, or you have

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Speaker 1: a daughter or a son in that situation. It was

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Speaker 1: the reason I bring this up is it's probably the

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Speaker 1: first time that hit me because he's seventeen now, and

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Speaker 1: before it just been odd jobs. He's going to go

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Speaker 1: do this and deliver that, and he'll go clean out

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Speaker 1: your garage do that stuff. But now that he's finally

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Speaker 1: starting to look for legitimate employment, and that was one

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Speaker 1: that just brought it home, didn't it. That sucks and

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Speaker 1: it's just it's a struggle. I understand economies are always changing.

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Speaker 1: You just heard what Carol said about the eighties and

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Speaker 1: like that. But that has to feel like quite a

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Speaker 1: Maybe you even picked the right degree for the field

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Speaker 1: there with college loan debt, with or without it, and

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Speaker 1: you can't find a job. And I've had friends of

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Speaker 1: mine lament this many times before. He can't get a

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Speaker 1: call back, he can't find a job. Now they're all white, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the tough corporate America for that, for that particular

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Speaker 1: demographic right now. Everybody has to be diversed. Anyway, that's

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Speaker 1: another story. But still, that was the first time. It

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Speaker 1: was last night. That was the first time I got

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Speaker 1: that Oh oh that sucks. That sucks, and I'm so

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Speaker 1: stupid the second I started thinking along those lines for James. Immediately,

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Speaker 1: because I'm an idiot, immediately I had him working for

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Speaker 1: And of course because I'm a father there of course

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Speaker 1: going to love him. He'll be the best employee ever

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Speaker 1: in he'll be the CEO in two years. And I'm

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Speaker 1: an idiot, Okay, I admit that, I'm moron. It hit me,

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Speaker 1: It hit me. It was Uh, it sucks. If you're

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Speaker 1: going through that, I'm sorry and we'll work it out

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