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Make 36 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: sure you hit that subscribe button, turn those notifications on, 37 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: and look, we got to start with this Caleb Williams situation. 38 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it was the news that kind of you know, 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: took the news by storm. I guess when he announced 40 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: that he was going to enter the transfer portal with 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: a chance of going back to Oklahoma, there's a caveat 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: right after that, Dylan Gabriel, the former UCF quarterback who 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: looked like he was going to UCLA, flipped Oklahoma. And 44 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: I know our buddy Greg McElroy said he thinks there's 45 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: a chance Caleb Williams goes back. But right now, looking 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: at that, I don't understand why you would go back 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: to a situation and why Oklahoma, if they thought you 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: were coming back, would not only bring in Dylan Gabriel 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: but announce it on Twitter, put out a press release 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: saying that the program's going in a great direction, I 51 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: believe from Brent Venables and JOCASTIGLIONI the ady there at Oklahoma, 52 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: and then announce that you're bringing Dylan Gabriel. So I 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: could think that Oklahoma is out and when you look 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: at Caleb Williams and we'll get to destinations in a 55 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: minute and fits in a minute the game that he brings. 56 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: We always talk about being balanced on offense and how 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: dual threat quarterbacks if they're able to be good enough 58 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: in the passing game, which Caleb Williams has shown the 59 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: capability to have the arm strength, have the touch, have awareness. Now, 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: anytime with a freshman at this level, you're going to 61 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: see some mistakes. That's part of it. Every freshman quarterback 62 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: that's ever played is made mistakes. Senior quarterbacks make mistakes. 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: But Caleb Williams athleticism, whether it's grabbing the ball on 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: fourth downd to save the game versus Kansas, whether it's 65 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: coming in against Texas and looking like he's from a 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: different planet. He's a guy that if you're a team 67 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: that just needs that extra push at quarterback or a 68 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: team that needs a guy back there, that the offensive 69 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: line may not be the greatest. So his ability to 70 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: run kind of evens out the defense a little bit 71 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: and makes it truly eleven on eleven. You had escapability, 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: you have the ability to extend plays. Kyle Williams has 73 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: to be the top guy in the market to me, 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: and it's not like he's a freshman coming out of 75 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: high school. I mean, this is a guy that was 76 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: highly ready to coming out of high school, had a 77 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: ton of suitors at the top level, goes to the 78 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: sooners with Lincoln Riley, and you've seen what he can 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: do on the field, and he's seen it. It's not 80 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: as important that we've seen it. It's more important that 81 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: he has seen it. He understands. And I know the 82 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Big twelve isn't the greatest conference in the world, but 83 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: he understands how you have to prepare, what it's like 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: in big games, succeeding and failing, understanding both sides of 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: the coin, to understand how to handle success and how 86 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: to handle adversity. And we always talk about experiences. The 87 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: one attribute that you can coach or you can't teach, 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: you have to experience it. They can tell you how 89 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: great the Hulk ride at Universal Studios is. They can 90 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: tell you how amazing it is and exhilarating, but until 91 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: you get on the ride and you see, you really 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: don't know. And Williams has gotten on the ride, he's seen, 93 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: he's gotten the Hulk cans as we say, So you 94 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: know tone when I when I look at him before 95 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: we talk about destinations. I know, Grant Wells, the Marshal kid. 96 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: I know we didn't have the greatest year last year, 97 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: coming off a ball in freshman year, but He's got 98 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: a ton of upside. There's a bunch of quarterbacks in 99 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: the portal. You know, what do you think about Caleb 100 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: Williams game. Well, we're talking about a kid here, a 101 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: true freshman who only played in what Jake maybe four 102 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: games before we started talking about him possibly being a 103 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy contender. I mean, that was absolutely unbelievable. Now, 104 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was a little bit of a joke 105 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: to do that, but still it was done for a reason. 106 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: He was making those types of plays. I don't see 107 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: that slowing down anytime soon. Right. The kid is only 108 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: going to get better, He's only going to get more experienced. 109 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: He is so versatile back there when you talk about 110 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: the football IQ and the headiness you know, of taking 111 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: that football and getting that first down in that one game, 112 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: and just a couple of plays that we've never really 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: even seen before, not even from the Patrick Mahomes of 114 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield types. And you know, just to talk about Oklahoma, 115 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: how fortunate is the Oklahoma football team the second that 116 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you lose a quarterback of this statute, or potentially lose 117 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he was still considering Oklahoma. It's not even 118 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: three hours later before you get the likes of Dylan Gabriel. 119 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: So Oklahoma is certainly not hurting on the quarterback front 120 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And again, when you have a guy 121 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: like Jeff Letty, and any quarterback, regardless of NIL, needs 122 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: to know who the OC is. He needs to know 123 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: the system. If you don't know the system, why would 124 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: you fly blind? Well, why would you take this type 125 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: of risk and just fly blind? I don't see him 126 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: doing that? And then you talk about nil. I mean, 127 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of the sweet stakes. We've 128 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: seen some examples of this, Quinn yours. You know, we 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: see in high school obviously, especially with what the schools 130 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: out in Texas are doing and everybody kind of loading 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the arsenal in the arms race of what is becoming 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: in I l But when you look at the deals 133 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: that he will be able to make, it's a big 134 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: part of it, you know, it's a big part of it. 135 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: Night And I joked, you know, a lot of schools 136 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: are gonna save money on NIL, and people go, WHOA, WHOA, 137 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: what do you mean? Well before nil? And people cheat? 138 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, just I can marriage is people cheat 139 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: in college football? A lot of them do because you have, 140 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: you almost have to. But if you gave eighty grand 141 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: to a kid and then he goes on another business 142 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: and gets one hundred grand and commits to that school, 143 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Go to the NCAA and 144 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: be like, we want our eighty grand back. What are 145 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Sue him like we cheated, but we 146 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: want our money back now. With nil, if you don't 147 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: want to sign the deal, nobody loses any money. So 148 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: when the long run schools, some of these schools are 149 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: gonna save money. I don't think a lot of people 150 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: understand that. But I wouldn't be shocked if Caleb Caleb 151 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Williams about to call him Caleb millions, because that's what 152 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: That's what I'm about to say. But Caleb Williams, I 153 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked if you've got a two million dollar 154 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: deal something like that to go and be the guy. Yeah. Well, 155 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: keep in mind with this, with this nil stuff, I mean, 156 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: for every Bryce young you have, you have a couple 157 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: hundred kids who are only going to make a few bucks, right, 158 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: But with this nil thing, it's going to be more 159 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: than just about ability. Right when you start talking about 160 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: some of these fortune fifty and Fortune twenty brands. Before 161 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: they start throwing several million dollars at a kid, they 162 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: want to first of all, be one hundred percent sure 163 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: that he can play ball, right, And you saw there 164 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: were two examples this past season, you know, Bryce Young 165 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: getting apparently a seven figured out, seven figure deal before 166 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: he ever played and then Dju at Clemson. Well one 167 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: of those worked out really well and the other one 168 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: not so well. So yeah, sure, brands want to be 169 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: one hundred percent confident that the player they're investing in 170 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: can play ball. But then also you have the character 171 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: aspect of it. Okay, and when you're talking when you're 172 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: talking about true freshman, you're talking about eighteen year olds. 173 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be very interesting to see 174 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: which brands really to go full force into investing into 175 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: these young men with one, they haven't seen him play 176 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: football at that level, but two, they haven't seen how 177 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: they carry themselves from a character standpoint at that level 178 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: without a doubt. And again, you know you look at 179 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: at the deal Spencer rather sign. I hope he's able 180 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: to turn around at South Carolina, but it's not always 181 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: going to work out. You know, things happen, especially with 182 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two year olds. But let's talk about destinations. 183 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: That's what everybody wants that you know, where's he gonna 184 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: go right now? Anybody outside of Caleb or his family 185 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: that say he's going here, they really don't know. To me, 186 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: I think there's a couple destinations. One you got to 187 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: look at USC with Lincoln Ryle. I mean, that's the 188 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: coach that he went there for. He understands not only 189 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the system but the terminology. It's an easy fit. Now. 190 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: I've talked to some people at Oklahoma that said he 191 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: wasn't exactly thrilled with the way that Lincoln Riley left. 192 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: If that left a bad taste in his mouth, did 193 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: that burn that bridge? And they've got a five star 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: quarterback I believe, a pretty highly rated guy that I'm 195 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: sure they told you're gonna have a chance to play, 196 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: especially if you stay with this commitment when Lincoln Riley 197 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: took the job that you know that may cause a 198 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: little bit of problem. So to try and dive into 199 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: the mind of Caleb Williams is futile at this point, 200 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: but you have to think he'd have to be considering 201 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, even if it's just in the slightest some 202 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: other places you've heard, you know, you've heard Georgia thrown around, 203 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: and that would seem, you know, like a great fit. 204 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: But if Stetson Pettitt goes and wins the Natty and 205 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: wants to come back, what are you gonna do? Tell him, no, no, 206 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: national championship winning quarterback, You're not coming back. I don't 207 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: see that happening now. Rusty Manziel, a guy we've had 208 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: on this show a ton at Dogs two four seven, 209 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: said he hasn't heard a ton of traction around Georgia. 210 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: For Caleb Williams. I tend to trust him. Another source 211 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: last night that's very high up in the college football world, 212 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: Georgia connected, told me that he's not going to Georgia either. 213 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: And then you look at a team like Alburn, you know, 214 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: you look at the connection, whether it's Russell Wilson to 215 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: Austin Davis, Austin Davis through Russell Wilson to Caleb Williams 216 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: and his family. There's been rumbles about him going on 217 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a visit can't confirm that yet. He said he's gonna 218 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: take a couple days that decompress. But if you're Auburn 219 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: and you're gonna do an nil deal. You need a 220 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: couple of linemen. You're in on a couple in the portal. 221 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: You get this guy with the defense and defensive line 222 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: you have coming back. All of a sudden, that grass 223 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: that looked like it's dying looked like they hit it 224 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: with about eighteen pounds a miracle grow. So you know, 225 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Auburn to me to be a destination that makes sense. 226 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you've heard in North Carolina because 227 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: he has a connection there. But you're gonna hear other 228 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: names pop up, I'm sure. But the question is the 229 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: timeline on this because you look at how many quarterbacks 230 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: in the portal. But Caleb Williams is one of the 231 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: few guys that can wait. He's like one of the 232 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: five stars that if they don't want to sign in 233 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: the new signing period, people call it the early signing period. 234 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: They're good enough where they know people will hold a 235 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: spot for him. Caleb Williams can go on visits, he 236 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: can take his time. So if you're a school that 237 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: has a chance to get him, if you get one 238 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: of those visits, you've got to do a great job 239 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: of being able to understand what's out there what you 240 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: can get with Caleb Williams. And the longer that Caleb 241 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: Williams Sweet States goes on, the more quarterbacks are gonna 242 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: choose a place. You know, do those schools make sense 243 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: to you as a fitcom and he does a name 244 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: not Auburn so much. I mean, look, I certainly don't 245 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: have any inside information on this, so this is just 246 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: pure speculation. But to me, if you're going to leave Oklahoma, 247 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: which is where you've already gotten somewhat established, and I 248 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: know your head coach just left, but Jeff Levy's coming in, 249 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: and I think that he would really be able to 250 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: shine in that system. If you're going to leave Oklahoma, 251 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: it would seem like you're going to choose a school 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: or a program where it's an immediate upgrade, not even 253 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: a lateral move right, which would be one, okay, going 254 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: to join the guy who brought you in. So yes, 255 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: if he goes in place for Lincoln Riley at USC, 256 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: I could see that, even though I think maybe this 257 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: decision would have happened a little bit sooner if that 258 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: were the case, I just don't see him going to 259 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Auburn right now. When you talk about Georgia. And you say, 260 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: if Stetson Bennett were to go win the national championship, 261 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: would they really bring in someone like Caleb Williams. I 262 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: mean I think yes. Look he's going to be an 263 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: upgrade for a lot of quarterbacks. And I don't think 264 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, Kirby's marks the type of coach who says, awesome, 265 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: thank you Stetson, been it for helping us win our 266 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: first national title. But I'm going out to get the 267 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: best every single year. Beat him out like we want 268 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: to bring Yeah, yeah, exactly, so you can go in 269 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: and play like zeb Nolan. Yeah no, I hear you 270 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: of that. But you know another one, what about Clemson? 271 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, I mean Clemson is a program theory, you know, 272 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: it makes a ton of sense. I mean, you have 273 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: a you have an established program right there that has 274 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: been competing for national championships almost every single year for 275 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: the last half decade, especially when they have top notch quarterbacks. 276 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: And what was missing this past season, right Trevor left 277 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: and they and they did not have that polished quarterback. 278 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: So Clemson to me, especially if he has carolinea Ties 279 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: already being one state away there, I don't know, it 280 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: seems like it could be interesting, but Caleb Williams is 281 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: going to be an upgrade for most programs in the 282 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: country without a doubt, and I think he's the top 283 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: guy in the portal. 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Content varies by packaging, location restrictions, supply. 293 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, David, we talk about Caleb Williams. Quarterbacks in 294 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: the portal go in different places. We still got a 295 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: game to play. We got the national championship, and all 296 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: the talk you're gonna hear it's typically about quarterbacks, and 297 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: that's who we're going to talk about right now in 298 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: this game. Obviously, it's the most important position on the field. 299 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: You touched them all every time. You're kind of the 300 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: maestro of the orchestra. And a question that is pinned 301 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: thrown around. Really, I guess for two years now, but 302 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: it's obviously gonna heat up going to the National Championship. 303 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Is Stetson Bennett an asset or a liability to Georgia? 304 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: And to be able to answer this question, I think 305 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: we got to put in perspective who Stetson Bennett is. 306 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett isn't your you know, solo artist singer, you 307 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: know Kelly Clarkson style that is a one man band, 308 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: can do it all, one woman band, whatever you want 309 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: to call it, goes out there Beyonce, you know, after 310 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: she decided to go solo. When you look at what 311 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Stetson can do. We've talked about his feet, all right, 312 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about his ability to extend the place somewhat. 313 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: But he's not going to go out there and win 314 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the game by himself. You can't ask him that that's 315 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: not who he is. He knows. He even said I'm 316 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: not the savior. Georgia has to play really well around 317 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: him for them to operate at a very high level. 318 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: You look at Bryce Young, he can he has a 319 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: lot more tools in the toolbox, and Stetson does. Alabama, 320 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: even though they did against Georgia. You know, they don't 321 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: have to play unbelievable all around them to be able 322 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to put points on the board because of what he's 323 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: able to do now, Stetson having George pickensback, Stetson having 324 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: what I believe the best tight end of the country 325 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: in freshman Brock Bowers and Darnell Washington. That's a pretty 326 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: damn good one two punch. They're at tight end, having 327 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: the running game they have, the way they played against Georgia. 328 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a liability. He's an asset to me, 329 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: because it's not you look at the numbers and compare 330 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: those against other quarterback numbers. I mean, what is it, 331 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns, three interceptions? Something like that? Am I crazy 332 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: over a Certains fan? So when you look at Stetson 333 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: to say he is a liability or he is the reason, 334 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: he's not the reason Georgia lost the SEC championship. They 335 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: couldn't stop Bama, they had no pass rush and then 336 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: they had to play from behind. And that's when you 337 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: ask him, Hey, Stetson put on the cape. Oh wait, 338 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: it's two sizes too big. So when I'm breaking down 339 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Stetson's game to me, he's an asset because he can 340 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: play well enough with the tools around him if they're 341 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: playing well, to put on a dad gum good performance 342 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: and not lose you the game. What say you, DC, Well, 343 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: if you ask the Michigan wolver En and s sure 344 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: is asset man? I mean gards even tho you know, 345 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: even that one play where you know, Michigan strength was 346 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: the front seven of that defense and they finally got 347 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: to him at one point in the backfield and he's 348 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: still was able to get free and I think had 349 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: a gain of twenty yards, you know. I mean, he's 350 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: figured out how to use his to use his wheels 351 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: to his advantage. For the most part, he's extremely, extremely accurate. 352 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: It seems that the problem with him is these one 353 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: to two throws every game, which have people just kind 354 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: of shaking their head, which is, why would you try 355 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: and squeeze that ball in? But but for almost every 356 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: single game that he's played this season, he has been 357 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: an asset to Georgia except for one game where he 358 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: was a liability or that he was unable to win. 359 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: And it just so happens that in that game he 360 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: was going up against the greatest defensive mind in the 361 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: game and Nick Saban, and that's just exactly who he's 362 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: going to have to go up against again if they 363 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: want to crown themselves national championship. So I think the 364 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: look he has proved himself to be an asset rather 365 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: than a liability. And to simplify the question even more, 366 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: is this Ken Georgia when the National Championship with Stetson 367 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Beene at quarterback? The answer is undoubtedly yes. But you 368 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: know the answer, can they lose it with him at quarterback? 369 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: Is still yes too. And the answer is always going 370 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: to be yes to that question whenever you're facing Nick Saban. Yeah, 371 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: you always say be the reads and not the difference. 372 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: And when you when you look to Cone, how much 373 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: would the narrative change? Because there's been a lot of 374 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: hate on Stetson, There's been a lot of people that 375 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: have taken his back. It's kind of a polarizing subject. 376 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: But you know, if Stetson goes out there and goes 377 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: twenty two or thirty for like two forty five, two touchdowns, 378 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: runs for one and they win, does the narrative suddenly 379 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: change for Stetson beended or do people say, oh, well, 380 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Georgia won it despite Stetson Benned if they win, you know, 381 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: twenty seven's twenty or something like that. I honestly think 382 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: that it's the latter man. That's what I'm starting to believe. 383 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: I think that people will always say it's sort of 384 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: like he's almost had a disadvantage because George is so good, 385 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: where they say, well, well, how could you how could 386 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: he have lost with the defense that great or with 387 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, skill players around him that great. So that's 388 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: a little bit unfair. And I think another aspect of 389 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: it is that, you know, he sort of took over 390 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: the job after JT. Daniels went down, So you have 391 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: this kind of marquee, like five star quarterback, you know 392 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: who would not get this sort of you know who 393 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: people wouldn't say these same things about even if the 394 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: play was identical, Right, if JT. Daniels played exactly identical 395 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: to Stetson Bennette, he would still have the benefit of 396 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: sort of being this five star quarterback from the West Coast. 397 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: And it is thought of as you know, well, Stetson 398 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: was kind of a Georgia guy that had to go 399 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: to a different school we kind of earn a scholarship, 400 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: and he was a walk On. There's always going to 401 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: be that stigma about him no matter what he does. 402 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: But I think that he will gladly take that with 403 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: a smile if he can put a big, big RA 404 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: on his finger next week. Yeah, Well, I challenge Georgia fans, 405 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: and I'm doing a space tonight with Aaron Murray and 406 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Jake from and I'm gonna say this. I challenge Georgia 407 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: fans right now, sitting where you're at right now, if 408 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: I told you you'd be in the National Championship after 409 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: having lost Alabama in the SEC Championship, but you're in 410 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the National Championship game with Stetson bedded at quarterback? Or 411 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: would you rather just start the season over with JT 412 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Daniels at quarterback and see what happens. I'd love to 413 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: see the answers on that. I think you would have 414 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: some people say, you know what started over? Started over 415 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: with JT and see what happens. But most of the 416 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: Georgia fans, especially the ones that really think it too, 417 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: you take it. You take the take the win, you 418 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: take it right now. So that's a question I challenge 419 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: all Georgia fans to ask. I guess we answered the question. 420 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: He's an asset, not a liability. And we're gonna see 421 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: on Championship Night coming up really soon, all right, Cone, 422 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: This debate is one of my favorite, even though projecting, 423 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: especially now with the transfer portal and nil is so 424 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: tough in college football, and we always talk about as 425 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: college football purists wanting the game to be at strongest. 426 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: How can the game be at the highest level to 427 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: give us the consumer the best games to watch, give 428 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: the players the best opportunities at universities, and create the 429 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: best matchups and in what is healthy for the game? 430 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: Two blue bloods, even though again that they haven't been 431 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: on the top of their game lately. Texas in usc 432 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: usc obviously sticking out in the PAC twelve, having hired 433 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, Texas moving to the SEC. I guess whenever, 434 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out soon, you know, I have 435 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: to have to jump on the DeLorean to go figure 436 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: it out. But which one of these programs On the 437 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: fifteenth anniversary of what I consider you know, we talked 438 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: about Oklahoma Boise State is one of the greatest bowl 439 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: games ever, the Fiesta Bowl. But that Rose Bowl with 440 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: Vince Young, I mean, that's that's up there, man, that 441 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: that's about as high up there as it gets. So 442 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: which one of these teams to project, let's say, next 443 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: three to five years has the most success? To me, 444 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: I think you always got to look at the periphery 445 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: because again, this is a fight in college football against 446 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: the powers of the SEC. You know, you've got a 447 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: chapter of the Big Ten that we know, excels PAC 448 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: twelve has been down. Big twelve has been somewhat down, 449 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: not seeing a ton of champions outside of the SEC 450 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: and the Big Ten and the occasional ACC with Clemson, 451 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: a team that's really kind of stuck their neck out. 452 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: But when I look at it, I look at the 453 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: conference and I look at as a huge you know, 454 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: almost you know, not war, because it's not war, but 455 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: it's a big fight in Texas. And I know they 456 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: have dropped the absolute bag on nil on guys, and 457 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: they're getting better up front. And I do think Sark's 458 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: a good coach. They're going to the front lines. Okay, 459 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: your story, you're the first one out of the gate, 460 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: all right, you're taking fire right out of the gate. 461 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: USC's out there in the PAC twelve. Mario has gone 462 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: from Oregon ship maybe on the hot seat a little 463 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: bit at UCLA Washington doesn't scare me. Utah scary, scariest 464 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: team in the Pac twelve right now in my opinion. 465 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: But the way they play, in the way that you know, uh, 466 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, who I think it's the most underrated coach 467 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: in college football, has got them out there. They're like 468 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: the archers way back out there, just are at the 469 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: top of the castle. They're just flinging arrows seeing if 470 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: it hits. Not too much worrying about, you know, not 471 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: taking a bunch of guys out there where you're at. 472 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: But Texas is going too literally the hand to hand 473 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: frontline combat. That's what they're getting sold. Just looking at 474 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: that alone and knowing and having respect for Lincoln Riley 475 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: and what he's able to do, and you look at 476 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: his ability to recruit, you know they're gonna be good 477 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: on offense. Kind of turning that swagback on. I think 478 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: you've got to say USC. I mean, they've got the 479 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: easier path. Do you want to run through the briar patch, 480 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you want to run down the yellow brick road. So 481 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: to me, I think it's USC, even though I do believe, 482 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, especially once they get in. This is a 483 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: point I make with Texas in Oklahoma. You're gonna take 484 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: your lumps early. You just are. You just are. That's 485 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: how it is. But once you figure it out, it's 486 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: like riding a bike first when you're learning how to 487 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: do it. First sight, you may you know you're gonna fall, 488 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, unless you're just super human or something, which 489 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure some people out there like, well I wrote 490 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: a great the first time you're lying, I know, so 491 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna fall, You're gonna struggle. But then you figure 492 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: it out, you understand the balance, you understand how it works. 493 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: You start to kind of you know, you're not going 494 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: to turn into Lance Armstrong really quickly, but you're gonna 495 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: be able to ride the bike to go down to 496 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: the local store and grab you a cold soda, as 497 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: we say on the show. So for me, it's usc Cone. 498 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, I think you could have 499 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: almost said USC even before we knew Lincoln Riley was 500 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: going there just on the fact of what you said, 501 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: the easier path, right, But certainly after Lincoln Riley took 502 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: that job, it became clear that they are really they're 503 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: serious about about getting back. Now what we've seen over 504 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: the last month out of Texas too, is that, hey, 505 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: they are starting to invest heavily to make Texas football 506 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: not only relevant again, but they want a recreation of 507 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: that two thousand and five rus Boy what a game 508 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: it was, especially. I mean, you and I are of 509 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the age where that was really during our formidable years, right, 510 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: so that one will stick out to me for the 511 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: rest of time. And man, I just hope that we 512 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: can see both of these programs get back to Providence, 513 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, like we've always talked about college football will 514 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: be better for it. But yeah, I think that I 515 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: think that you would have to say Southern Cal at 516 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: this point. And I'm trying to think, you know, even 517 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: looking at some of the recruiting that Lincoln Riley's already 518 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: been able to do. I mean this say nothing of 519 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkijian's coaching abilities. I mean, certainly we hope that 520 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: his recruiting prowess and his offensive mindedness can really get 521 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: Texas back on top. But yeah, I mean I would 522 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: have to say Southern Cow right now, just because the 523 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: road is going to be that much easier, and I 524 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: really think they could kind of be the Clemson of 525 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: the West Coast moving forward just parentially on the cusp 526 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: of that playoff, no matter if it's for no matter, 527 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: if it's a no matter, if it's twelve, and just 528 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: sort of always get in, sort of like we've seen 529 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: Notre Dame be able to do time and time again, 530 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: and see if they can have a puncher's chance once 531 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: they get into the postseason for sure. And I know 532 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: everybody's talking about Texas in the NIL. I get it, 533 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, not only just you know Texas, but Texas 534 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: A and M. You know, we saw the sweepstakes for 535 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Queen Yours. But you know, I look at what USC 536 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: gave Lincoln Riley full access to the plane that that, 537 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: and they threw them a lot of money too. So 538 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like Southern Cow has made a 539 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: decision that, Okay, in this space we're in, I know 540 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: they're in competent, I believe, but we're in a spot 541 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: where NIL can be big, where it can be really big. 542 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I know they're not down there on rodeo like UCLA, 543 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: But if USC makes its mind up that they want 544 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: to dominate in this space, they are one of the 545 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: five to seven teams that can really really flip the 546 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: script quick and then you add in the caveat of 547 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: the conference not being the strongest and there being some 548 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, transitory problems right now, You know, when you 549 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: look at at Mario leaving and not a lot of quality, 550 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: especially up top, you could really turn it around quickly. 551 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: And all that place needs is a spark. All it 552 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: needs is a spark because people still haven't forgotten. These 553 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: kids in high school know who Reggie Bush is. They 554 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: know who Matt linerd is. They know I remember, you know, 555 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: even recruiting guys, they talk about Reggie Bush's highlight film 556 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: in high school when he was at Helix. I mean, 557 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: they know who he is, so us and I'm just 558 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: talking about his oven, his bacon getting oven roasted. Shout 559 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: out Tyler, a great job. But you know, when you 560 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: look at USC, they're a program that they embrace it. 561 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: They can join the race and excel. So I'm going 562 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: to USC, Yeah, I think, yeah, you know, And you know, 563 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: three of the most perplexing programs over the past five 564 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: and ten years are USC in Texas and then Miami 565 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: because all three come from unbelievable high school football states. 566 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: And I think an early litmus test for Southern Kyle 567 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: Texas and from Miami are going to see which one 568 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: of them first can sort of put up that bear 569 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: ye okay around their area geographically. Which one is going 570 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: to be able to stop the bleed of recruits over 571 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: to Alabama right and over to these other schools and 572 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: over to Oklahoma. I mean, well, these kids from California 573 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: who play such good football, who are fleeing to the 574 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Alabamas of the world in LSUS, are they going to 575 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: start committing to sc are these kids in Texas, these 576 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: these big you know, these big strong kids who can 577 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: really play ball, are they going to start committing to 578 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: Texas again? Right? And now? Not only you know, not 579 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: only do you have these other schools competing for those recruits, 580 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: but Texas A and M looks like they're just going 581 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: to be a dominant force in repruting for years to come. 582 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Is Mario going to be able to put up a 583 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: fence around South Florida which you should never have to 584 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: recruit another kid outside of South Florida from Miami to 585 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: be back to Providence. So that's my first litmus test 586 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: for these programs as to see which ones can put 587 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: up a barrier first and keep the instate kids home 588 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: for recruits. Yeah, and I don't know why. Every time 589 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: I think of Texas saying maybe it's because it's oil. 590 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: When I think of Texas A and M or are 591 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: these Texas schools with the nil, I just think of 592 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: Daniel day Lewis from There will be Blood, Like he's 593 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: the one who's like, all right, you know, here's three 594 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: here's three million dollars. You know he's sitting in there 595 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: with his bowling pins there in his mansion. Some people 596 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: will get that reference. Some people won't. We'll take our chances, 597 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: but glad you took your chances on us. Make sure 598 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: you subscribe to everything. 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