Speaker 1: Look you, it's only films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director at Chocolate Malt, and I love films. As
Speaker 1: Aristotle once said, knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.
Speaker 1: Knowing it's cool to go to the cinema on your
Speaker 1: own is the beginning of all great movie trips.
Speaker 2: Smart man.
Speaker 1: Every week I'm invite a special guest over. I tell
Speaker 1: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 1: life through the films that meant that most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Kevin Smith, Barry Jenkins, Sharon Stone, and
Speaker 1: even Ben Bambles. But this week it's the brilliant comedian
Speaker 1: and award winner and star of his own HBO special mister,
Speaker 1: Leo Reich. Get over to the Patreon at patreon dot
Speaker 1: com forward slash Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of chat, secrets and videos with Leo. You
Speaker 1: get the whole episode, uncut and ad free. Check it
Speaker 1: out over at Patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein.
Speaker 1: So Lea Raik is an excellent comedian who took the
Speaker 1: Edinburgh Festival by storm and then went on to record
Speaker 1: his special for HBO. I saw his show live and
Speaker 1: it was excellent, definitely worth seeking out, and you can
Speaker 1: find it on now TV and HBO and lots of
Speaker 1: other places. We recorded this on Zoom a little while ago.
Speaker 1: I think it's a brilliant one and I think you're
Speaker 1: really going to love it. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty five of Films to be Buried With. Hello, and
Speaker 1: good evening. It is Films to be Buried With. It
Speaker 1: is I Brett Goldstein and I am joined today by
Speaker 1: an actor, a writer, a performer, a singer, a dancer,
Speaker 1: a model, a comedian, a groundbreaker, an award winner, a
Speaker 1: gen Z, the voice of a generation, that generation being
Speaker 1: the Z, a legend, a person that broke the.
Speaker 2: Mold and the Internet.
Speaker 1: He's bigger than that picture where Kim Kardashian had the
Speaker 1: champagne on her bum from above. He's a legend and
Speaker 1: a superhero and one of the greats.
Speaker 2: He's here. Can you believe it? Please?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. It's the wonderful is Lee all right.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what can I say now? To live
Speaker 3: up to that superhero?
Speaker 2: You said you are going to have to speak because
Speaker 2: it is a podcast.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a shame, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll come up with some stuff at fill the time.
Speaker 1: It's lovely to see you. Thank you for doing this.
Speaker 1: You're in London, I am in New York.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. My god, thank you for
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 1: We haven't really hung out before, but I did see
Speaker 1: your show, which is now on HBO of all places
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Can you believe it?
Speaker 1: I can't believe. It's fucking amazing, What a cool thing.
Speaker 1: I saw your show at the Soho Theater theater and
Speaker 1: it was brilliant.
Speaker 2: It was fucking brilliant.
Speaker 3: Thanks. It was so nice for you to come. That
Speaker 3: was That show was the biggest out of body experience
Speaker 3: because it was half like comedians like yourself that I admire,
Speaker 3: and a nervous perform in front of and then half
Speaker 3: everyone I went to primary school with.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what a night there show, A fucking
Speaker 1: night there show. It was really weird, which is worse,
Speaker 1: which is worse? Doing it in front of comedians are
Speaker 1: doing it? In front of people who went to school with.
Speaker 3: If you had to pick, I think they're bad in
Speaker 3: like exactly opposite ways. Yeah, well, like the comedians, you
Speaker 3: really really want them to like it and think that
Speaker 3: you're cool and interesting, and the primary school people you
Speaker 3: kind of almost want to not like it and want
Speaker 3: to be like, if you don't know me, I'm not
Speaker 3: just a little kid anymore. I'm crazy. Do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? I don't know. But it felt like
Speaker 3: a dream, you know when someone from your primary school
Speaker 3: turns up in your dream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have this that the primary school people
Speaker 1: would sort of heckl like this isn't you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of what. It's also like they didn't say
Speaker 3: that they were if you ever had that thing where
Speaker 3: someone doesn't say that they're coming, but then does sit
Speaker 3: in the second row. So it's like the first five
Speaker 3: minutes of the show with me walking on to the
Speaker 3: stage and being like, oh my god, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: you since year four, and now I'm going to deliver
Speaker 3: an hour of jokes about anal to you what. It's
Speaker 3: very true we have a very strange relationship at this point.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Also, people that you don't know well or people you
Speaker 1: haven't seen for many of the years are always the
Speaker 1: people that say, hey, we'll come to your show in Heckel.
Speaker 2: I know you always go.
Speaker 1: Like, why why do you? Hey, why do you say that?
Speaker 1: B why do you think that a fun thing to say?
Speaker 2: And see? Why have you said that?
Speaker 3: They also always turn up to the worst ones, Like
Speaker 3: it's always like your first work in progress of new
Speaker 3: material and there are four people there and you know
Speaker 3: all of their mothers. It's like so strange, Yeah, why
Speaker 3: are you telling us this stuff? And I guess I shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I mean wish I'm very grateful and I hope they.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But isn't the fear of having a bad gig in
Speaker 1: front of anyone? You know the thing that I had.
Speaker 1: I had a bad gig a while ago, and it
Speaker 1: was like the first bad gig I'd had in fucking ages.
Speaker 1: And it's such a like profound thing because there's no
Speaker 1: way when an audience doesn't like you, there's no way
Speaker 1: of sort of explaining to them that you're good at this,
Speaker 1: Like it's such a weird thing where you sort of
Speaker 1: go you can't say, oh no, I'm I'm funny because
Speaker 1: they're going but we don't. There's no evident. It's the
Speaker 1: most terrifying. I can't prove it because you seem to.
Speaker 3: You want to get to want to get up the
Speaker 3: reviews on your phone and be like this is good.
Speaker 3: You do realize this is good, right, this is good.
Speaker 1: Honestly, there are other people, but it's such a mad
Speaker 1: sort of existential feeling where you're sort of like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess you're right, I guess this.
Speaker 3: Is I know you're so numbered as well. You're so
Speaker 3: outnumbered by them, all of them and their little seats,
Speaker 3: crossing their arms and frowning, thinking that are so clever,
Speaker 3: And yet you just want to go like, I'm replacing
Speaker 3: you with all new people tomorrow and I love it.
Speaker 3: Why not be more like them?
Speaker 2: That's so funny to shout an audience. Tomorrow's people are
Speaker 2: going to fucking love this. Well.
Speaker 1: Also with your show, listen, and I say this genuinely,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine you ever having a bad show for
Speaker 1: a number of reasons. And it's very high energy. You're show,
Speaker 1: and it has music, and it has dancing and has singing,
Speaker 1: and it has it's kind of so forceful that I
Speaker 1: can't imagine an audience not getting on board of it.
Speaker 2: But do you ever have like a oh my god,
Speaker 2: bad show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very sweeting to say it, but that is
Speaker 3: not that's not my lived experience of performing the show.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was. It's usually fun. It usually
Speaker 3: got fined by the end, But especially when I did
Speaker 3: it in the States, there was a real thing of
Speaker 3: like because it's all like kind of ironic, and it
Speaker 3: kind of it really relies. The whole thing relies on
Speaker 3: the audience knowing that I'm joking right and not thinking
Speaker 3: this is a sort of earnest like confessional show about
Speaker 3: my real life and I especially in the States, it
Speaker 3: would sometimes take a good forty minute for people to
Speaker 3: start going, oh he does maybe he's not like this,
Speaker 3: fucking yeah, it's crazy. Sometimes they would clap after after
Speaker 3: There's like a lot of things where I like, there
Speaker 3: are earnest setups of like there should be more more
Speaker 3: diversity on Love Island or whatever, and the full round
Speaker 3: of applause, people going yes, what.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, Because I think the more I think about
Speaker 1: this a lot, like I know they are like comedians
Speaker 1: who like a real sort of low energy deadpan, sort
Speaker 1: of throw it all away. And I always think when
Speaker 1: you're like that, it's like, well, it's easier to have
Speaker 1: a bad gig when you're like that, because you can
Speaker 1: sort of pretend you're not doing anything and be like, well,
Speaker 1: you're menta laugh, I'm not doing anything, whereas and then
Speaker 1: there's middle version. Then there's your version, which is like,
Speaker 1: it's so full on that if they're not laughing, fuck,
Speaker 1: you've really commit really comfort it. There's no way you're
Speaker 1: going I am doing something here, You're definitely doing something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. In Edinburgh, there were a couple because you know,
Speaker 3: that classic thing happened where I got a couple of
Speaker 3: good reviews really early, and then the late show, the
Speaker 3: latest shows in the month got like booked up by
Speaker 3: like and I say this with so much love of
Speaker 3: my heart old people who in general don't like to
Speaker 3: show so much. And there's something so devastating about by
Speaker 3: the end of that show, because I was in a
Speaker 3: little box. I was drenched with sweat and like panting,
Speaker 3: having run around for an hour and for the lights
Speaker 3: to go down and then come up for the applause,
Speaker 3: and it's just like a light smattering with like very
Speaker 3: confused faces. Meanwhile, there's like eyelineer running down my face.
Speaker 3: I've given that, I've given them everything, and they're going,
Speaker 3: oh god, it seems unwell, it's really just humiliating.
Speaker 1: Oh god, oh that makes me stressed. Can I say
Speaker 1: something serious about your show?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And we can, and we can cut it if it
Speaker 1: makes me uncomfortable. I thought about your show a lot after.
Speaker 1: It's very, very funny, and it's very like it's it's
Speaker 1: just like a wild ride and it's really fun. But
Speaker 1: actually we thought actually that it was like sad as
Speaker 1: in that there's a kind of howl. If I may
Speaker 1: be so serious, it's sort of a howl in that
Speaker 1: it's so ironic, and it's layers of irony and only
Speaker 1: and it's kind of seems like a scream into the void,
Speaker 1: like what what can we do?
Speaker 2: Like what matters?
Speaker 1: Because it's so hard to make sense of it all
Speaker 1: that there's layers upon layers of layers. Now that it's
Speaker 1: very hard to be sincere and to be emotional because
Speaker 1: everything's become so.
Speaker 2: Diluted. I don't know what the word is, layer layer, layer, dilute.
Speaker 1: At taking that context moved into things that what what
Speaker 1: are we is? What it's sort of like. It actually
Speaker 1: like was quite sad. Ye, like a statement of the
Speaker 1: times is that that's so?
Speaker 3: That's yes, I mean it always makes it sound so unfunny,
Speaker 3: but I think it's it's hopefully meant to be that.
Speaker 2: I I okay.
Speaker 3: I've wanted it to be sad.
Speaker 2: Definitely, Okay, Yeah, it really depressed me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, great, okay, great, great because sometimes people
Speaker 3: if the other weird thing about doing it like so
Speaker 3: many times is that people have really weird reactions to it.
Speaker 3: People would go like, oh, it was so great because
Speaker 3: I have a son your age and he's gay, and
Speaker 3: that made me feel way better about that. And I
Speaker 3: was like, what that made you feel better about it? Okay,
Speaker 3: it didn't make me feel better about it. I'm scared
Speaker 3: for your son.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: It was definitely like like a kind that I guess
Speaker 3: that the core of it is, like you said, like
Speaker 3: a kind of inability to be to say anything that
Speaker 3: feels authentic or to speak about the very like real
Speaker 3: material problems that we all know are going on, is
Speaker 3: that it's just impossible to find any language that feels
Speaker 3: like it can deal with those problems we'll talk about
Speaker 3: those problems in a way that's affecting or interesting or
Speaker 3: doesn't feel kind of shallow or kind of like an
Speaker 3: ad that I so much of. It was so much
Speaker 3: of like right, it was like watching loads and loads
Speaker 3: of ads and taking all this stuff out of ads
Speaker 3: and being like, this is hysterical. This is an ad
Speaker 3: for like, I don't know, like a bank, and it's
Speaker 3: talking about kind of diversity and inclusion, which simultaneously doesn't
Speaker 3: advertise the bank and also sort of debases like the
Speaker 3: language of diversity inclusion and makes it meaningless. And it's
Speaker 3: just like watching that stuff, it was especially over Lockdown,
Speaker 3: just made me feel insane. So I felt like I
Speaker 3: had to run around on stage from Aaron screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's fucking great. Yeah, I mean it really did.
Speaker 2: It was like a really really really fun ride, really entertaining,
Speaker 2: and then at the end I was very sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's my favorite reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was depressed for a week. So thank you very
Speaker 1: five starts. So you comedy depressed for a week. No,
Speaker 1: it's brilliant. Are you starting.
Speaker 2: A new one? Are you made a new one? Do
Speaker 2: you feel incredible pressure of a new one? Given the
Speaker 2: massive success of the first one.
Speaker 3: I haven't started a new one, but I think I
Speaker 3: don't know. I've been talking to other comics. I want
Speaker 3: to how how do you feel about it? I feel
Speaker 3: like I want to make it really different to the
Speaker 3: first one, and that might take a really long time.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yes, I think, well, do you know what if
Speaker 1: I may serious answer, I think that's brilliant, and do
Speaker 1: exactly what you want, and you're an artist, and continue
Speaker 1: to be an artist and follow whatever thing you want.
Speaker 1: I think there is a strange reality oft them with critics.
Speaker 1: I think where basically, if you do something different, some
Speaker 1: of them will be like, well I liked the other thing.
Speaker 1: They're just going to compare it to the other thing.
Speaker 1: That's it. Just basically ignore whatever anyone says, because then
Speaker 1: if you also do the same but more, they'll say
Speaker 1: it's the same but more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. Comedy reviews are so strange. That's a
Speaker 3: whole that's another podcast. But that's what way up to
Speaker 3: what are they doing it? Every single one has something
Speaker 3: baffling in it. I've never read a single review of
Speaker 3: the comedy show where I haven't been sort of baffled
Speaker 3: at at least one point by what they've chosen to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like with anyone, anyone who talks about comedy.
Speaker 2: I will not name the person. There is someone in
Speaker 2: comedy that I know lots of people that like slag
Speaker 2: this comedian enough and they go he's rubbish, and they go.
Speaker 1: Well, he's not. Like he takes the roof off. He
Speaker 1: does exactly the job of a comedy. I've been in
Speaker 1: the room. He's an amazing comedy. You might not like it,
Speaker 1: but he is a good There's no how can you
Speaker 1: you can't look at the roof covered off?
Speaker 3: When it's like when people I always get really annoyed
Speaker 3: when people are like, that's not comedy, like the reviews like,
Speaker 3: that's not actually comedy, Well well it is. It might
Speaker 3: be like you can say it's bad, but we are
Speaker 3: all watching it and it's comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It feels like a kind of like I know, it
Speaker 3: feels like people think they're doing something really clever by
Speaker 3: going actually, actually, if you really think about it, that's
Speaker 3: not comedy. It's like, well, actually I did think about it,
Speaker 3: and it.
Speaker 1: Is h It was currently and I love Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you haven't started a new thing, like it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: You obviously built that show, you did for a long
Speaker 1: time and it has been a huge thing. Have you
Speaker 1: let go of it? You've done with that show. It
Speaker 1: was a joy to let go of having done it.
Speaker 3: Right, to be honest, Well, also because I was because
Speaker 3: it's first show. It's like classic first show thing where
Speaker 3: pretty much every joke you've ever written isn't it? Or
Speaker 3: everything that you thought was good enough to say on
Speaker 3: stage isn't it? And I think that there's at least
Speaker 3: one joke in the show that I think I probably
Speaker 3: weren't right when I was eighteen, and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: that is enough. We can't be saying that I'm an
Speaker 3: adult man now. I don't want to be said. I
Speaker 3: don't want to be saying the words that an eighteen
Speaker 3: year old boy came up with professionally. That's so strange.
Speaker 3: Also it's helpful because the special came out on this
Speaker 3: like sixteenth of December. So I think something about the
Speaker 3: year ending, and it's like new Year, I'm done being comedian,
Speaker 3: What next teacher?
Speaker 1: Something could be not saying no, well there is something
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you actually go on And I
Speaker 1: was thinking this when I first, well, M when we
Speaker 1: first loved John and I we were setting up. I
Speaker 1: probably should have told you then, because I did make
Speaker 1: a note of it as well, Oh you've died, you're dead.
Speaker 3: You're kidding.
Speaker 2: No, I'm actually not. You're dead, fully bark just a
Speaker 2: lot of my plans. How did you die?
Speaker 3: I walked off something because I was on my phone,
Speaker 3: like a peer or yeah, off a peer, because I
Speaker 3: was on my phone doing so. I was sort of
Speaker 3: engrossed and looking at the names of the people who
Speaker 3: viewed my story. I think probably, Well, so.
Speaker 1: You're like, you're in Worthing. You're in Worthing, peer in you.
Speaker 1: They left a little gate open and you were like,
Speaker 1: looking down. Your friend just walked off the end of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least now I get to have on
Speaker 3: my gravestone he died as he lived walking along Worthing.
Speaker 2: Peer looking at looking at.
Speaker 3: It's own story, I would say, actually I would. I'm
Speaker 3: going to come out of saying that, by far, the
Speaker 3: person whose Instagram stories I view the most during the
Speaker 3: day is my own. I'm perstantly tucking back in at
Speaker 3: my own Instagram story. So I think they're trying and
Speaker 3: do that thing. Did you ever do this way, you're like, what,
Speaker 3: like you try and almost forget that you've posted it,
Speaker 3: and and try and look at it with the fresh
Speaker 3: eyes of a stranger, being like, what would I think
Speaker 3: of me?
Speaker 2: How often do you chuckle to yourself looking at your
Speaker 2: own in the story and say wistfully, that's brilliant?
Speaker 3: All the time, all the time. I'm also also sometimes
Speaker 3: if I'm having a sort of like crisis of personality,
Speaker 3: I'll just scroll through my own Instagram page to sort
Speaker 3: of remind myself sort of what I'm like your successes.
Speaker 1: So you fell off worthing pier was the tide out?
Speaker 1: You just smashed into some ruck.
Speaker 3: Was out yees?
Speaker 2: So I hit rot, Yeah didn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even a dramatic splash situation.
Speaker 2: It was just full like thud.
Speaker 1: I think it was more dramatic because of the rocks,
Speaker 1: to be honest, but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: The sound was different. People didn't notice for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, when like a ball hits wet sand, that
Speaker 3: kind of like horrible. I know, it's so humiliating to
Speaker 3: die with a thwack as well, It's.
Speaker 1: Like wow, God, that's tragic, But I mean it really
Speaker 1: helps the sales of your special.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and really is the point of being alive away?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you do? You do you worry about death? No?
Speaker 3: I actually don't. I worry about.
Speaker 2: And this is going to be so profound, goat.
Speaker 3: I worry about being alive more than I stitch that
Speaker 3: on a T shirt. Scared of death, honey, I'm scared
Speaker 3: of being alive.
Speaker 2: Totally fair, very scary the death.
Speaker 3: Death will be a huge relief to us, I mean,
Speaker 3: to me, and do I imagine many members of my
Speaker 3: family and close friends. Just get it done, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm so I'm so anxious. It'll be
Speaker 3: like heaven. It will be literally like heaven. It will
Speaker 3: be literally like heaven. Yeah, that's it. That's a heart take.
Speaker 3: It is scary being alive, it's scary being life. But
Speaker 3: that's just so your your view of death is not
Speaker 3: gonna be scary, and that's nice. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be that scary. But also, like, the thing
Speaker 3: about life is famously I don't know if you've heard this,
Speaker 3: it's finite. So every day it's like, better make sure
Speaker 3: fill it with stuff, better make sure it's worth my time.
Speaker 2: Whereas death it's like.
Speaker 3: That all day.
Speaker 2: There's more than Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: Don't you worry about don't worry about a thing.
Speaker 1: Death has a real kickback quality, like just have a strap,
Speaker 1: Like you know you can walk around.
Speaker 2: You don't need to take your phone yet You've.
Speaker 3: Got to tell exactly, I don't think i'd use my
Speaker 3: phone even I think the whole I think.
Speaker 2: I think I only use my phone.
Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to maximize my time on earth in
Speaker 3: some way.
Speaker 1: So when people ever say stop looking at your phone,
Speaker 1: your answer is life is finite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I often say that to my mum. But dinner,
Speaker 3: life is finite number of chances to look at my
Speaker 3: own Instagram story. This is brilliant tomorrow, yeah, brilliant.
Speaker 1: So you do think there is enough to life? That's
Speaker 1: pretty chill? After life, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well again, I feel like because I feel I'm sort
Speaker 3: of in this relaxed space in general, I would genuinely
Speaker 3: say I don't get the kind of why is everyone
Speaker 3: so hysterical about whether there's an afterlife or not? I
Speaker 3: don't care about that. I've never I'm like, yeah, maybe,
Speaker 3: but guess what, I'll be dead and everything will be endless.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I guess when people like people like God,
Speaker 1: I hope there is, those are the people that probably
Speaker 1: want more life.
Speaker 2: They just want to be like, let's not worry about
Speaker 2: that exactly.
Speaker 3: And it feels like they're forgetting when they're talking about
Speaker 3: an afterlife, they're getting the crucial element of the afterlife,
Speaker 3: which is that you're dead.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you don't like the word life afterlife. I
Speaker 2: don't like the word life after life. You're hoping for
Speaker 2: life after death. You don't want this stress. The fundamental
Speaker 2: quality of it is that you're not alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's interesting.
Speaker 3: It feels like a case of misssold, you know, but
Speaker 3: I'm really miss selling that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just afters. You just wanted to be an afters.
Speaker 3: It's a it's an end afters.
Speaker 1: Just everyone fucking mumbling on pills. But yeah, well good news.
Speaker 1: I suppose in a way it depends. There is a heaven,
Speaker 1: but it's like an afters and the good bit, and
Speaker 1: it's filled with your favorite thing.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 3: Food?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh, it's food.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a giant buffet, but like
Speaker 1: COVID free, just a huge buffet. It's like a mule,
Speaker 1: you know, those like around the world buffets. But it's
Speaker 1: good ship.
Speaker 3: I love that. That's a real like childhood holiday thing
Speaker 3: to me, of like being let loose on around the
Speaker 3: world buffet.
Speaker 2: That's what it's like.
Speaker 3: The individual cuisine is like butchered in a way that
Speaker 3: you couldn't possibly imagine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no area accurately represents the country it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be rapping. Yeah, that's what That's what it's like in
Speaker 1: him and yeah, yeah, and you'll love it. And everyone's
Speaker 1: very excited to see you big fans. They love your
Speaker 1: instant stories. When you arrive in Heaven, they're chuckling. They're
Speaker 1: looking at it chuckling again. That is brilliant. And then
Speaker 1: you walk in and go, my god, it's here, and
Speaker 1: they all want to talk to you about your life,
Speaker 1: but they wanted to talk about your life through film.
Speaker 1: The first thing they ask you is, what's the first
Speaker 1: film you remember seeing?
Speaker 2: Leo Rai. The first one I remember seeing is Finding
Speaker 2: Nemo Shit the Bed. Yeah, that is a hardcore first film.
Speaker 3: It's a hardcore first film, and I remember it. I'm
Speaker 3: not it can't be the first time I saw so
Speaker 3: I think I must have been like four or five,
Speaker 3: but I went to the cinema to see it, and
Speaker 3: we were on holiday and it was disney Land, Florida,
Speaker 3: and they did one of those like five D experience
Speaker 3: whatever things where they're like spray and stuff. And I
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember the beginning of Finding Nemo.
Speaker 3: What happens is a huge barracuda comes and like mass
Speaker 3: murders the eggs and the wife of the main fish
Speaker 3: fish one, and then swims off into the darkness of
Speaker 3: the depths of the terrifying ocean. And as this is happening,
Speaker 3: my five year old's face is being like the seats
Speaker 3: like moving around, and I'm being sprayed with water. I lose
Speaker 3: my fucking shit and leave. I'm like, I have to
Speaker 3: get out of it. I'm like, sobbing, let's go. I've
Speaker 3: had enough. So I don't watch any a single one
Speaker 3: more frame of the film Finding nemos so to me
Speaker 3: for many years, Finding Nemo was a very short, quite
Speaker 3: formally experimental animated art film about death right from the jump.
Speaker 3: I mean, really they do just like land you in it.
Speaker 1: It's a devastating film. It's fucking heartbreaking. For most of it.
Speaker 1: Sure there's a couple of jokes here and there, and
Speaker 1: there's some lovely side characters, but it's a devastating film
Speaker 1: about a father trying to raise a child.
Speaker 2: Heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's also, of course one of the best
Speaker 3: films in the world. Yeah, because it's at the same
Speaker 3: time absolutely fucking hilarious. It's so funny. Batfish cannot remember
Speaker 3: a thing. That's hysterical, that fucking idiot, your audience are
Speaker 3: going Dory love write it.
Speaker 1: Down, Dory, babe, listen, thank you.
Speaker 3: For this thne you've forgotten something you're pitying, but.
Speaker 1: Then fucking Dory makes you cryet just when you think
Speaker 1: you're saving it. Always safe with Dory.
Speaker 3: Some brilliant voice acting from Ellen, I think, and also
Speaker 3: ingrained in my memory, which is actually a very clever
Speaker 3: meta element of the film. P Sherman forces you waller
Speaker 3: we waye s didnety, We'll never get it amazing.
Speaker 2: So what is the film that made you cry the most?
Speaker 2: And how? You a crier?
Speaker 3: A huge crier, huge crier to the extent where I
Speaker 3: feel like, as a connoiseur of crying in films, which
Speaker 3: is maybe my favorite thing to do, in the world.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's two answers to this question, because
Speaker 3: they're happy cry and there's sad cry. There's like kind
Speaker 3: of oh my god, the joy of being alive. It's
Speaker 3: also moving and beautiful, and to me that is it's
Speaker 3: wonderful life. Of course, is that the quintessential on my
Speaker 3: hands and knees, just balling my eyes out from minute one?
Speaker 3: And then sad cry? I think probably Grave of the Fireflies,
Speaker 3: fuck it now, which is just like, what are you
Speaker 3: doing to me? Just what could live? These children are
Speaker 3: contender with the harrowing magnitude of war and they're animated.
Speaker 3: Isn't mad?
Speaker 1: It is a cruel trick of animation where you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why at any point we assume we're
Speaker 1: going to be all right with a cartoon, given that
Speaker 1: all of the cartoons are absolutely devastating.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. There's something, there's something in
Speaker 3: my brain that sees a cartoon and goes, this can't
Speaker 3: hurt me. And then cut to an hour and a
Speaker 3: half later, and two children are mourning the loss of
Speaker 3: their hometown being destroyed in a nuclear war.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen when the wind blows, when the
Speaker 1: wind Blows is a film by the man who made
Speaker 1: The Snowman, and it is a British film about a lovely,
Speaker 1: very sweet, lovely couple living in their house and a
Speaker 1: nuclear bomb goes off in the distance and very slowly
Speaker 1: off the course of the film, they die of nuclear
Speaker 1: poisoning and its fucking horrendous and it's just them going like.
Speaker 2: I would just make a nice cup of tea.
Speaker 1: And when there's they started sort of coughing and.
Speaker 2: I feel quite I feel quite tired. It's fucking but.
Speaker 3: You do think, I mean, that is the kind of
Speaker 3: stuff you're getting pitched at an afters someone is off
Speaker 3: and going, yeah, I just wanted I just want it
Speaker 3: to be about the mundane decay. And it's a metaphor
Speaker 3: for how life, in a way is just slowly dying.
Speaker 2: And you're like, God, who are you do? I meet
Speaker 2: you at the club and he goes, I made this
Speaker 2: snow Man. That was a hit? Okay, yeah, what were you?
Speaker 2: Why then? Aren't you old? What is the film that
Speaker 2: made you cry? No?
Speaker 1: What, we don't know. What is the film that scared
Speaker 1: you the most?
Speaker 3: Do you like being scared? I love being scared? Do
Speaker 3: you like being scared. I love being scared in films. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and films I love it. I don't know why, I
Speaker 3: guess a little. I don't know. But the thing that
Speaker 3: I think there was like a moment you know when
Speaker 3: you start watching scary films and it is genuinely gutturally
Speaker 3: terrifying because you haven't like learnt the tricks yet, so
Speaker 3: every single one gets you. And weirdly, the thing that
Speaker 3: got me the most was the opening sequence of Scream,
Speaker 3: which is of course an absolutely probably my top ten
Speaker 3: favorite films in general, definitely top five horror films, probably
Speaker 3: top five comedies. It's so funny, but that first scene
Speaker 3: is like really scary, with Drew Barrymore been chased around
Speaker 3: her house by the ghost face man.
Speaker 1: It's psychotic, fucking great set piece. I was again recently
Speaker 1: holds up that is like a masterpiece ten minutes days
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 2: So when her boyfriend's on to watch, oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember watching it.
Speaker 3: I also had to add to it, I watched it
Speaker 3: on a plane, which is terrible in general, but.
Speaker 2: Also the fact that it scared me so much and.
Speaker 3: I was on a plane and I was watching it
Speaker 3: in a tiny screen on the back of someone's seat.
Speaker 3: It still I was like, oh my god, someone turned
Speaker 3: the lights on on this plane. It's too dark.
Speaker 2: Everyone.
Speaker 1: Genuinely, it's a great good answer. What is the film
Speaker 1: that you love? People don't like it, critics don't like it,
Speaker 1: but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 2: What is that film? Right?
Speaker 3: It is the film and its sequel starring Steve Martin
Speaker 3: and Genreno, The Pink Panther.
Speaker 2: Huge.
Speaker 1: It's don't think it's ever come up on this show.
Speaker 1: Please tell me everything. I am steamer in Fanty. I
Speaker 1: die love him so much, Please talk to me.
Speaker 3: I think we have memory holds it as a as
Speaker 3: a culture. What I will say about the first Pink
Speaker 3: Panther film, and I've actually spoken out about this previously
Speaker 3: because I feel very passionate about it, is that Beyonce
Speaker 3: is in that film and performs an original track right
Speaker 3: that is not available anywhere online, but is so good
Speaker 3: called a woman like me. It's the production value is
Speaker 3: so high. Steve Martin is doing. It's just giving his
Speaker 3: all to every second of offending French people, both in
Speaker 3: France and across the globe. Gen Reno is there for
Speaker 3: god knows what reason and also signed on for a sequel.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's a crazy little film. Every joke is
Speaker 3: like kind of the worst joke you've ever heard, but
Speaker 3: in a way where you're like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: can't believe they put that in. You know, when you
Speaker 3: like at the fringe, you go and see like a
Speaker 3: student sketch show, and you're like, this, this is objectively
Speaker 3: this is the worst thing that's ever happened, like on
Speaker 3: a quality level, but in terms of how much joy
Speaker 3: I'm feeling from the top of my head to the
Speaker 3: bottom of my body, this is the best piece of
Speaker 3: art that's ever been created.
Speaker 2: Because you're having a laugh. I'm having a laugh.
Speaker 3: The materials so about that it circled back to being
Speaker 3: kind of boundary to make fel to honestly, to make
Speaker 3: Beyonce stand there while while Steve Martin go sit you up.
Speaker 3: There's a bit where where Beyonce has to react to
Speaker 3: Steve Martin going into like a recording studio that he
Speaker 3: thinks is soundproof and then farts really loudly and then
Speaker 3: comes back out and she has to like act like
Speaker 3: she hasn't heard it. And if you just look at
Speaker 3: like just sort of see that from the third person
Speaker 3: a tiny bit and go. That is Beyonce from That's
Speaker 3: Funny Being Famous Fame. Yeah, and she's doing that smell
Speaker 3: the fart acting.
Speaker 2: Wait.
Speaker 1: Listen, a man going into what he thinks is a
Speaker 1: sound proof booth's objectively a very funny idea.
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. Cool, that's brilliant. Listen. Also, people were like,
Speaker 2: how dare he do pink Panther?
Speaker 1: The Great Peter said it, I may be so bold
Speaker 1: as to say the original pink Panthers ain't that great?
Speaker 1: Dare I say it? We're not talking about flawless man,
Speaker 1: They're quite boring.
Speaker 3: And it's also like you've made the pink Panther look
Speaker 3: like a joke. It's like, yeah, yeah, of course that's
Speaker 3: the whole concept of the pink Panther. Is that stupid
Speaker 3: stuff happens all the time? Are we going mad?
Speaker 1: What is the film that you used to love but
Speaker 1: you've watched recently and you've gone, I don't like this anymore,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: This is hard because it's not happened to that many things.
Speaker 3: I think there's two sections. Half of them are like,
Speaker 3: oh no, I found something out about the production and
Speaker 3: now it's creepy to watch this like Blue is almost color,
Speaker 3: like Manhattan, like that kind of thing where you watch
Speaker 3: it and you're like, oh, no, I wish I didn't
Speaker 3: know all the information about this, And then the only
Speaker 3: other ones I can think of, like really really teenage
Speaker 3: boy films where that are made for teenage boys, and
Speaker 3: there's a period of being a teenage boy where watching
Speaker 3: like Reservoir Dogs is actually the like you feel endorphins
Speaker 3: that have yet to be described by science, or like
Speaker 3: you're watching Batman Begins and your drawers on the floor
Speaker 3: because you can't believe the genius concept of I think
Speaker 3: they're putting poison in the water in that film or
Speaker 3: something doesn't make any sense. But at the time you're like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: that's so clever. And then you go back and it's
Speaker 3: not that I don't like Reservoir Dogs now, I still
Speaker 3: think it's good.
Speaker 2: It's not that it doesn't hold up.
Speaker 3: It's just that it's like it's not hitting my nervous
Speaker 3: system in the way that it did when I was
Speaker 3: fifteen years old, or watching like Django Unchained, being like
Speaker 3: this guy is the cleverest man who's ever lived. He's
Speaker 3: taken a story about history and he's changed parts of it.
Speaker 3: Whoa and he says, everyone so rude.
Speaker 2: Everyone is very rude, very rude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, I really remember going into school the
Speaker 3: day after I watched Pulp Fiction and being like, guys,
Speaker 3: you will never guess what I discovered a really hidden
Speaker 3: gem last night. It's basically this art house classic about
Speaker 3: how violenceism is really fun to watch.
Speaker 2: That is it fuck interesting?
Speaker 1: Tell me this, Leo right, what is the film that
Speaker 1: means the most to you? Not the film itself could
Speaker 1: be ship, but the experience you had around seeing the
Speaker 1: film will always make it meaningful to you.
Speaker 3: Leo right, Well, this is my first repeat answer because
Speaker 3: it's it is.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful life and I can't watching.
Speaker 3: The pick Bath again. It's a Wonderful Life, which I
Speaker 3: watched every Christmas Eve with my family m and grandparents
Speaker 3: who come from Wales. And there's a thing in it.
Speaker 3: There's a specific moment in it where he goes where
Speaker 3: George Bailey goes to the school dance and you've seen
Speaker 3: him as a kid, and you've seen Mary, his love interest,
Speaker 3: also as a child in the candy store and she
Speaker 3: whispers in his ear. George Bailey I love you till
Speaker 3: I die because he's got a trick ear and I
Speaker 3: can't hear she's saying. This is four minutes into the film.
Speaker 3: I'm already just shed so many tears that it could
Speaker 3: flood a country. I'm barely listening to the dialogue anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm just heave sobbing. But there's a moment where in
Speaker 3: the flash forward where he goes to the school dance
Speaker 3: and this guy comes up to him and he's like.
Speaker 4: Ah, George, would you dance with my kid's sister. He'll
Speaker 4: get out of the thrill of a life like that
Speaker 4: kind of thing. And then the camera and he's like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to dance with her, And then he
Speaker 4: stops in a sentence because he's seen her across the
Speaker 4: dance floor and there's this shot of her face and
Speaker 4: it's the first time Donna Reed appears in the movie,
Speaker 4: and she is a lit like she's an angel, and
Speaker 4: it's like just the strings swell and she's smile and.
Speaker 3: She stops talking to the person. She's talking to you,
Speaker 3: and it's like incredible. And every time that happens, my
Speaker 3: granddad makes this noise and it's just like the most
Speaker 3: beautiful thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Shit, man, yeah, shit, you make me cys.
Speaker 3: It's like, all right on, cue my Grandda goes.
Speaker 2: That's so sweet because he's.
Speaker 3: So overwhelmed by her beauty and the romance of the moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you've got that answer, correct, Well done, great.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Next, what is the film that you most relate to? Oh?
Speaker 3: This is this is any film where you know, one
Speaker 3: of those films where the reviewer is like, yeah, this
Speaker 3: is okay, but at a certain point you just feel
Speaker 3: like the main character is so unlikable that that is
Speaker 3: why are we following? Why should we care about this
Speaker 3: entitled brat wandering around doing nothing? Yeah, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's me. It's me. Oh my god, it's me. It's
Speaker 3: me in the worst person in the world. It's me,
Speaker 3: furniture Frances, It's all me. Film. Also, another one was
Speaker 3: anything I really like watching a film where you're like,
Speaker 3: that is the perfect representation of everything I hate about myself.
Speaker 3: So like Rushmore was a huge one for me, watching
Speaker 3: Rushmore as like a fifteen year old and going, oh
Speaker 3: my god, that's what I'm like, just unbearable. Am I
Speaker 3: sort of oocious, like nerdy? But like entitled and like
Speaker 3: I don't know, just irritating, kind of like self aggrandizing,
Speaker 3: delusions of grandeur. Thinks you're thinks he's an adult. Is
Speaker 3: like writing a play always? I was so many at
Speaker 3: the time, just always sort of like telling people that
Speaker 3: I'm writing a play.
Speaker 2: Have you written a play?
Speaker 3: I have written a play.
Speaker 2: Are you going to put in a play? Now? Is
Speaker 2: that what's next? Ruling it out? Are you gonna put Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm putting a place, put a play. Putting a play.
Speaker 2: You just have to make it not boring. And that
Speaker 2: is the real challenge of a play. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: If we're gonna put on a play, we're gonna put
Speaker 3: on a play. We're gonna make it boring.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're doing a proper play.
Speaker 3: I want to do it right. If I'm if I'm
Speaker 3: taking it up to the theater, I want to. I
Speaker 3: want to. I want to honor the art form and
Speaker 3: make it extremely boring. Okay that everyone hysterically laughs up
Speaker 3: supplot Wise, nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 1: If you would summarize it would be like one night
Speaker 1: in a two old friends reunite and nothing happens.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's about the death of the American Empire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we can bang that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could easily be an hour, but it's going
Speaker 1: to be four hours, and with no change to the addition, no,
Speaker 1: no more incidents happen over the next three hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Perfect, And at the end the sun rises very slowly
Speaker 1: in the background in real time.
Speaker 3: I think it should be in blank verse as well.
Speaker 3: It should be fully Shakespearean.
Speaker 2: Fuck it, hell, God, even listen, I'm a yes ander,
Speaker 2: And when you said that, it made me sick. It
Speaker 2: made me sick and go, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: even yes.
Speaker 3: And I wanted I wanted to have that that if
Speaker 3: I ever do a player, I wanted to have. You know,
Speaker 3: when you see a Shakespeare play and they do the
Speaker 3: kind of they try and make it funny, and they
Speaker 3: do the sort of cheeky Shakespeare voice to the audience
Speaker 3: where they like and do me a set for a
Speaker 3: for a wondle of sticks or whatever, and you're like, what,
Speaker 3: don't say that to me, like I meant to know
Speaker 3: what that means, because I don't, because that's old language.
Speaker 3: Stop trying to bring me into this. I'm not in it.
Speaker 1: Stop trying to pretend that this is fun all right,
Speaker 1: looks fun for it? The fool is this fucking handley?
Speaker 1: Stop trying to pretend this is fun. I'm not an idiot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Oh, what's the sexiest film we've ever seen?
Speaker 3: Sexy films so few? This was really I was thinking
Speaker 3: about this and I was like, there are so few
Speaker 3: actually sexy films.
Speaker 1: Sexy films, really there's I can't agree, but I can't agree.
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating. There's not many people in podcasts.
Speaker 1: It comes up occasionally when people go like, I don't
Speaker 1: know films are sexy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, am I a sick pervert? Or are you mad?
Speaker 2: One of us is mad?
Speaker 3: Wait, what's what's your answer for this?
Speaker 2: What do you say? Any film?
Speaker 3: Any film? I find it sexy when people are speaking Spanish.
Speaker 3: So a sex scene in Eating Mama Tambien, I think
Speaker 3: it's really sexy.
Speaker 2: That's at you get it.
Speaker 3: And also law of desire. I really like that. I'm
Speaker 3: mode of our film.
Speaker 2: Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, you get its sexy bits in that.
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 3: I like that maybe more because there are sexy bits
Speaker 3: in that where people aren't having sex, but it's still
Speaker 3: there's a bit where she gets drenched with a hose
Speaker 3: and it's like fully pornographic and she's not, she doesn't,
Speaker 3: No one's naked, No sexual stuff is going on, but
Speaker 3: it's still somehow like the hottest thing I've ever seen
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's getting drinks with a hose. I can a minute.
Speaker 1: It does sound yea, as I said, it sort there's
Speaker 1: nothing about it.
Speaker 3: I was like, this isn't the sort of mundane situation
Speaker 3: that I'm billying it?
Speaker 1: What about traveling bone is worrying? Why I don't a film?
Speaker 1: You found it rousing? You weren't sure you should? Maybe
Speaker 1: that's any film for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Frozen maybe? What?
Speaker 2: What? What?
Speaker 1: What the fact this sort of incest element is that
Speaker 1: what's traveling?
Speaker 3: Little there during those people very nice, I would say,
Speaker 3: very nice, very nice, that big, the big reindeer man,
Speaker 3: the princess, it's all, it's all working. The other thing.
Speaker 2: Well, this is all. This is just a weird crush.
Speaker 3: That I have at the moment on someone I watched
Speaker 3: Are you there, God, it's me Margaret?
Speaker 2: Great film.
Speaker 3: Loved it, absolutely, loved it so good. Every film should
Speaker 3: be like that, in my opinion. But I weirdly had
Speaker 3: a real crush on Benny Safety in that nice choice.
Speaker 3: I think I said it to my out loud, to
Speaker 3: my family, thinking everyone's going to agree with me, and
Speaker 3: everyone said, that's one of the weirdest things I've heard
Speaker 3: in my life, because I think they've intentionally dressed him ugly.
Speaker 1: But then he's a good dad in this sweet man.
Speaker 1: He's kind and he's trying. You know, he's gentle and
Speaker 1: he's rugged. He's doing stuff in the garden. You know,
Speaker 1: he's trying garden.
Speaker 3: He's getting a little muddy in the garden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's getting dan. That's your thing.
Speaker 1: Well, I think for somebody who doesn't think films are sexy,
Speaker 1: you've really got this correct.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think films aren't sex.
Speaker 3: I just think it's like really hard to get it,
Speaker 3: to do it right. Like there's there's rarely a film
Speaker 3: where I'm like, this is genuinely they've nailed the sex.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Out of Sight? And George Cloy.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get on it. Well, this is the
Speaker 3: other thing. The other thing that I think ruined sex
Speaker 3: in movies for me is when people are too hot,
Speaker 3: If the actors are too hot, like, if you look
Speaker 3: at this is where the Marvel dies whenever like Marvel.
Speaker 3: And it's why I can't really I haven't seen that,
Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone thing, anyone but you.
Speaker 3: But you, Because I'm like, if I saw either of
Speaker 3: these people in real life, I turned to dust. It's
Speaker 3: not real. It doesn't make sense to me that you'll
Speaker 3: also with them with like that male physique.
Speaker 2: You go.
Speaker 3: Some part of my brain goes, I can't see with
Speaker 3: this person. This person spends all their day in the gym.
Speaker 3: They don't have time to something with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've wondered that about. That is a fair concern.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a really big timetabling issue. I think
Speaker 3: involves there's a scheduling conflict. Every day you're having a
Speaker 3: scheduling conflict, and that's not a healthy relationship. Oh I
Speaker 3: can't come to dinner tonight because I'm doing an ab
Speaker 3: workout and having athletic greens.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I want to eat something with loads of butter
Speaker 3: in it with someone a good four notches more ugly
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 1: I don't think Glenn Powell is the one for you.
Speaker 1: I think Benny Safety is a saber choice.
Speaker 2: I think so can you break it to Glen Powell?
Speaker 1: I will, and he's going to be fucking furious, but
Speaker 1: I'll let him know it's important not to lead him
Speaker 1: on anymore. No, Yeah, sorry, what is object actively the
Speaker 1: greatest film of all time?
Speaker 3: This is also so hard, obviously the hardest question in
Speaker 3: the world. You say, singing in the Rain, right, that's
Speaker 3: the that's the house answer. Yeah, that's I think that's
Speaker 3: pretty good. I think that's like the that's probably the
Speaker 3: best answer in the mix. I would say all about
Speaker 3: Eve maybe nice, very nice, but the anything about that
Speaker 3: is like, there's it's I feel like the best film
Speaker 3: ever has to look pretty sexy. You have to be
Speaker 3: able to like draw to mind like a classic image.
Speaker 3: And all about Evil though it's like I think, probably
Speaker 3: the best acted and maybe one of the best written
Speaker 3: films ever, and it's also very hollywoody, which feels right
Speaker 3: for this question. I'm not conjuring a frame. I can't
Speaker 3: see I can't see the meet on send Brett.
Speaker 2: Any frame from it on your World.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, exactly. And whereas something like Bridge on the
Speaker 3: River Kwai or Lawrence of Arabia beautiful you got you
Speaker 3: could have every single frame there's a dream.
Speaker 1: Lawrence of Arabia is burging. Great, Yeah, go on, there's
Speaker 1: no joke.
Speaker 3: I want at least one joke. Probably.
Speaker 1: I think there is one joke in Lawrence of Arabia,
Speaker 1: and I can't put my finger on it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's like an early bit where he's being charming, where
Speaker 1: he says something vaguely humorous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go with that.
Speaker 3: Then I'll say Lawrence of Arabia, even though it's sort
Speaker 3: of I'm sure deeply problematic in a myriad ways. But
Speaker 3: the bit where that one transition where they have the
Speaker 3: match and it turns into the sun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guess what.
Speaker 3: I'm sobbing again because that's that's incredible.
Speaker 2: The fire of the match stands into.
Speaker 3: The far of the sun.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Imagine coming up with that. They must have been jumping
Speaker 3: for joy.
Speaker 1: By the way, in our play, that's what is at
Speaker 1: the end one of his lights of match, and then
Speaker 1: the background is a real time sunrise, real time and
Speaker 1: it takes an hour and we sit in silence.
Speaker 3: That's genius. If we can pull that off, will have
Speaker 3: done a fine play.
Speaker 2: We'll have done an actual play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is kind of a ceiling doing a player.
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty much. We did a play. It's
Speaker 3: pretty much even all you can say about doing a play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really did a play. I was very bored.
Speaker 2: What is the film that you could or have? What's
Speaker 2: the most over and over again? This is a repeat.
Speaker 3: That's okay, it's well, it is probably it's a wonderful
Speaker 3: lifecause I watch it every year. But what the one
Speaker 3: that I'm always like, oh, stick it on is for
Speaker 3: Weddings in the Funeral.
Speaker 1: That is a fucking great film for Weddings in the Funeral.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so in and structured and directed
Speaker 1: and acting. It's fucking funny. It's really good and kind of.
Speaker 2: Valued. Yeah, because of everything that came after it.
Speaker 3: It's got a little bit of everything. Yeah, yes, like
Speaker 3: I really I'm a huge fan. The bit where Christmas
Speaker 3: got Thomas is wearing a black satin slip dress in
Speaker 3: she's in a room in a Scottish castle. She's wearing
Speaker 3: a gold bangle for some reason on her like bicep
Speaker 3: in a fashion that I've never seen before since and
Speaker 3: she tells h Grant that she's always been in love
Speaker 3: with him is just the most amazing, painful, powerful, like
Speaker 3: earnest scene also in the middle of a rom com
Speaker 3: to do such an earnest No jokes in that scene,
Speaker 3: it's just it's just this kind of side character being like,
Speaker 3: by the way, I'll always agree to press because I'm
Speaker 3: deeply in love with you and I know you don't
Speaker 3: love me back. It's like, oh fuck yeah.
Speaker 1: In their honey, Yeah, it's like Chloe in Smallville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about fours and funeral and I think it's Mike Neil.
Speaker 1: There's something about it's like this is a fucking classy
Speaker 1: film as well, like it feels like something about the
Speaker 1: way it's shot and it feels and not cheesy. There's
Speaker 1: something very like it's quite cool. That's a great film.
Speaker 3: Like the style of it, the kind of clothes and
Speaker 3: the haircuts, it's all like shabby enough, feel like they're
Speaker 3: real people in a way that later, which are Curtes films,
Speaker 3: you're like, you've done shot like shabby is the point,
Speaker 3: but you've paid a billion pounds for that turtle neck jumper,
Speaker 3: whereas in Four Weddings it's like you truly picked that
Speaker 3: up in a vintage shop and you look like like
Speaker 3: a guy I know you, Grant weirdly looks like a
Speaker 3: guy I know in that it's a hot guy that
Speaker 3: I know for sure.
Speaker 5: Sure looks yeah wrong, a fuckable guy. Yeah, that's its right. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not glossy.
Speaker 3: And people's hair is bad, like their hair is like
Speaker 3: fully bad as some of those characters. And they felt
Speaker 3: were stuff that doesn't really fit. And the weddings are
Speaker 3: like nice, but they're not clean. It's like they're in
Speaker 3: a big marquee and you can see like bits flapping
Speaker 3: off the marquee. It's still really nice wedding, but it's
Speaker 3: not like, oh my god, they clearly have a production
Speaker 3: team making sure that that bit doesn't flap.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's got flappy bits. That's what makes it.
Speaker 1: It's the flappy bits.
Speaker 3: And then at the end she says, is it raining,
Speaker 3: I haven't noticed? Great job done, incredible film, and he
Speaker 3: reads trouple the clocks in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah fuck, and that was huge And now that's the
Speaker 1: very thing that happens a lot.
Speaker 2: That's a w h Jordan on the map. No one
Speaker 2: cared before.
Speaker 1: And also she's so in love because it's really raining. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's not it's not like a drizzle. It's not
Speaker 1: spitting like it is a torrential downpole and she has
Speaker 1: a nice like that's love. That's really raining, brave, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's that's for Weddings of the Funeral too.
Speaker 1: What is the worst film I've ever seen? Let's not
Speaker 1: be too negative, please, but what's the worst?
Speaker 3: Not be too negative? I have such real hate. Well
Speaker 3: I thought that. Well, again, there's kind of two ways
Speaker 3: of film can be bad. It can be bad because
Speaker 3: it's like this is badly made. That acting is bad,
Speaker 3: the script's bad, you know, the room style or like
Speaker 3: Highlander two whatever, and you kind of have a laugh
Speaker 3: watching it, but it's not. It's not super serious. It's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, these people made a bad movie because
Speaker 3: they're not really good at making a movie. And then
Speaker 3: other films are bad because they're like evils or like
Speaker 3: they have like a spirit of like satanic darkness deep
Speaker 3: within the logic of the film, where you just left
Speaker 3: haunted for days by the memory of watching, for example,
Speaker 3: Bohemian Rhapsody and you just can't get over it, or
Speaker 3: like The Iron Lady really did that for me for
Speaker 3: some reason, I was like, this is keeping me up
Speaker 3: at night that they've.
Speaker 2: Made this.
Speaker 3: One film that really is the pinnacle of both bad
Speaker 3: and both ways. To me is I don't know if
Speaker 3: you caught the film's sucker punch when it came.
Speaker 1: Out, the Zack Snyder dreamskate Girls in This Island being
Speaker 1: very hard in fighting.
Speaker 2: I haven't actually seen psycher Print.
Speaker 3: Truly, and my experience was probably the best cinema experience
Speaker 3: I could have had because it was after school. I
Speaker 3: was maybe fourteen, and I was having this like weird,
Speaker 3: sort of psycho sexual relationship with a boy in my school,
Speaker 3: and we were sitting next to each other and he
Speaker 3: was fully feeling me up through the whole film. So
Speaker 3: I should have loved it. I should loved it, And yeah,
Speaker 3: I was so turned off by the character development on screen.
Speaker 3: Then it made the whole experience really just traumatic.
Speaker 1: Were you like whispering? I'm so sorry. These backstories are
Speaker 1: making me flescid.
Speaker 3: The one thing I will say about Soccer Bunch, which
Speaker 3: I I sometimes go back to just sort of make
Speaker 3: myself feel more. I guess karma in this job is
Speaker 3: I watch it. I'll watch the trailer and I'll remind
Speaker 3: myself they let him make another film off this. Someone
Speaker 3: let him do that many films, many many films after
Speaker 3: he made Truth. I really recommend it. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 3: Every sequence is somehow bad in like seven different ways,
Speaker 3: but like ranging genuinely from like morally reprehensible to just
Speaker 3: like looks ugly and everything in between. And you just
Speaker 3: can't believe it. And they really pack a lot in
Speaker 3: as well that there's like a lot in there. There's
Speaker 3: a World War One sequence, there's a samurai sequence.
Speaker 6: There's a bit where they all do a lap dance
Speaker 6: that is so hypnotic that they manage to escape the
Speaker 6: prison kind of sex dungeon that they're all enslaved in.
Speaker 6: It's sort of the hints that it's feminist at certain points,
Speaker 6: but everyone is in pure leabra.
Speaker 3: It's just nuts.
Speaker 2: Are you sure this isn't the greatest film ever made?
Speaker 3: It actually walks that line sometimes sometimes you're like, wait,
Speaker 3: is this genius? And then one of the characters will
Speaker 3: say one of the lines that they've written and you go, no, no.
Speaker 1: It's well, you're in comedy, you're very funny, you're a
Speaker 1: bloody award winner.
Speaker 2: What's the film that made you love the most? Right?
Speaker 3: This is really like. This is a basic answer. But unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I do think that it is just true that the
Speaker 3: funniest film in the world is Brian's Maid.
Speaker 1: For me, it is it's so fat. It hasn't been
Speaker 1: beat since. I don't think I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: I just really and I've seen that film maybe twenty times,
Speaker 3: and every single time I'm like, and it's really entered
Speaker 3: my vocabulary in such a big way that I will
Speaker 3: do the intonation of oh Helen does the owner just
Speaker 3: every day of my life.
Speaker 2: The rhythm of it in me.
Speaker 3: It's so great. Yeah, there's one thing that annoys me
Speaker 3: Aboutriseemas I speak on that. You can speak to this?
Speaker 3: Can I speak to this? I speak to this issue.
Speaker 3: There's one thing that annoys me about Risemans, it's the
Speaker 3: only floor in an otherwise perfect film, is that when
Speaker 3: she is leaving John Hamm's house and she gets stuck
Speaker 3: on the gates, they use birds song in the background,
Speaker 3: and the bird song they use is chaffinch, which is
Speaker 3: a European bird and the film is set in America.
Speaker 1: Wowy, guys, you were so close. That is that is interesting.
Speaker 1: Someone who has occasionally been lucky enough to make stuff.
Speaker 1: When you go into the sound mix, always the first
Speaker 1: thing that they play you is so much bird.
Speaker 2: Song that you're like, where is where is.
Speaker 1: This scene taking place in a sanctuary? There's so many birds,
Speaker 1: too many birds.
Speaker 3: It really takes me out of it because I'm like,
Speaker 3: I was a massive obsessive bird watcher when I was
Speaker 3: like in which sort of explains quite a lot.
Speaker 1: How does that start? And what are you doing all day?
Speaker 1: I've never quite understood it.
Speaker 3: How does it start? I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just sort of long walks in the countryside.
Speaker 3: You'll see a bird, You'll be like, You'll go, what's that?
Speaker 2: Then right, and one thing leads to another.
Speaker 3: Suddenly you're you're watching Bridesmaids and you can't invest in
Speaker 3: the characters because there's a chaffide in the background. It's
Speaker 3: a very slippery slate.
Speaker 1: So you're like collecting seeing a bird, a different type
Speaker 1: of bird, birds, and then you're like, I wonder where
Speaker 1: that bird's going.
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff. You're kind of constantly going, oh
Speaker 3: my god. Well, one thing I do think is really
Speaker 3: underrated about birds. This isn't the theme of the podcast.
Speaker 3: I do you realize that, but about birds is that
Speaker 3: they can fly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is amazing. Do you really take it for granted?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: That is like that standing as well, from a standing start.
Speaker 3: From a standing start, they are suddenly flying through the
Speaker 3: sky and we're all just like sort of walking around
Speaker 3: the park pretending not to see it.
Speaker 2: It's fucked. Look at the bird. So do you still
Speaker 2: bird watch?
Speaker 3: Occasionally? Got my binoculars. I'll have a peep out of
Speaker 3: the window, see what's up.
Speaker 1: Because to be like, you know, there's like observing the world.
Speaker 1: There's a bird, lovely, But to be a bird watcher,
Speaker 1: is there like is it sort of like a thing
Speaker 1: of like can you see this rare bird that's very
Speaker 1: hard to see?
Speaker 2: Is that the buzz that thing?
Speaker 3: Right, there's a thrill of the unexpected. So if you're
Speaker 3: like in a place and you're like, this guy should
Speaker 3: not necessarily be here, but then here here is because
Speaker 3: nature is magic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically it's like big on acid.
Speaker 1: It's exactly, I think, right, And do you have to
Speaker 1: take a picture of the bird or is it just
Speaker 1: for here, just for the head? It's not like it's
Speaker 1: not like pokemon, right, It's about being present and enjoying.
Speaker 3: But being present at the moment, although it's so hard
Speaker 3: to take a picture of a bird because as we
Speaker 3: mentioned before, they're often like flying around.
Speaker 2: That's what and such? Do you have bird watching?
Speaker 1: Is there a community that you you will write to
Speaker 1: I just saw this bird and they go wow.
Speaker 3: There is, of course the London Birds wiki page for
Speaker 3: later sirings that you can add your sightings to do.
Speaker 3: Also I follow Pembrokeshire birds because that's where my grandparents live,
Speaker 3: West Wales. No good bird movies though, not really a
Speaker 3: single good bird movie.
Speaker 1: There's a new film called Migration coming. Okay maybe now
Speaker 1: it's an animated film. I suspect everyone dies in it's tragic.
Speaker 1: Maybe no, it's illumination might be more fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was rio. I couldn't really get on board
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: What about the fucking Flight of the Things? The documentary
Speaker 1: of the Things? The documentary much hungrings?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the penguins do they.
Speaker 3: Con I mean you're picking the one bird that doesn't
Speaker 3: fly way to miss the trick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, But there is there is a film
Speaker 1: that follows the birds migrating and they put like sort
Speaker 1: of mini balloons on the birds. They had like cameras
Speaker 1: on the birds for their migrating I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of doesn't gel with my my appreciation
Speaker 3: of birds very much like leave them leave.
Speaker 2: Right, right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's a very peaceful thing to do, this
Speaker 1: bird watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really good because it's also it's been you
Speaker 3: feel very you have to kind of give up your
Speaker 3: sense of control. I'm quite like a controlling control freak,
Speaker 3: and so when you're watching a bird, you're like, that
Speaker 3: is not to do with me.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So do you sometimes set aside the day I'm going
Speaker 1: bird watching and stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Big time interesting. Yeah, so that's what I think a bridesmaid.
Speaker 1: Lee, right, you have been an absolute delight. However, when
Speaker 1: you was walking along weording Pierre looking at your your
Speaker 1: inster stories and you were.
Speaker 2: Doing a little game with yourself.
Speaker 1: You looked away for a bit and you and you thought, imagine,
Speaker 1: you thought to yourself, imagine, I'm just a guy, whereas
Speaker 1: I'm just a normal person and I know nothing. And
Speaker 1: you look back down at your instant stories and you
Speaker 1: shoot your head wistfully, and you said, this is fucking brilliant,
Speaker 1: and you chuckled and your chuckle. You're looking at it,
Speaker 1: and you walked straight off the pier. They'd left the
Speaker 1: gate up because they were fixing something. The tide was out,
Speaker 1: and like a bull landing on wet sand, your face
Speaker 1: went straight through a rock. Was it was dark, and
Speaker 1: I was walking around the beach with a coffin, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like I was on the holidays, and I go,
Speaker 1: what that's a mess?
Speaker 2: What's that? And I go, oh, no, that's not Oh
Speaker 2: was that voice of a generation? Lea right? Who was?
Speaker 2: Who will speak for that generation? Oh? My god? And
Speaker 2: I turn around.
Speaker 1: There's people wailing, people wailing because they don't know who
Speaker 1: will speak for them. And I I'm sorry, guys, I
Speaker 1: saw it. And I go, but remember that special was
Speaker 1: so good. He never has to follow it up now.
Speaker 1: And they went, oh, you're right, and they all started clapping.
Speaker 1: They felt better. And I said, and remember now, he'll
Speaker 1: never write a play. And everyone went, oh, this is
Speaker 1: great news, this is great news. And I said, help me,
Speaker 1: help me with this, and we have to sort of
Speaker 1: get you off the rocks. But you were like stuck
Speaker 1: in some rocks. Some of the rocks coming with you
Speaker 1: and the like smash up bits of your boy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: get all of you in the coffin. It's rammed. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's very busy in there. There's only really enough room
Speaker 1: for me to slip one DVD in the side for
Speaker 1: you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 2: And on the other side.
Speaker 1: It's movie night every night in the around the World
Speaker 1: buffet made by the man at the beginning of Eat,
Speaker 1: Drinking Man, Women and one night it's You're me. You
Speaker 1: know what film are you taking to show the food
Speaker 1: people in the food court When it's your movie night, lear.
Speaker 3: Right, people in the food court will be treated to
Speaker 3: a beautiful, potentially depending on the time of year, anachronistic
Speaker 3: showing of its wonderful life. I think it's got to
Speaker 3: be done.
Speaker 2: When read appears.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leah right, what delight? Is there anything you would
Speaker 1: like to tell people to listen to watch out for,
Speaker 1: or any such thing with you coming up? Uh?
Speaker 3: Not really, just a special it's still It's the kind
Speaker 3: of endless hell of releasing something silently to streaming is
Speaker 3: that it's still much available to watch. Do you watch it?
Speaker 2: It's a laugh, it's very good.
Speaker 3: It's on HBO Max in America the United States of America.
Speaker 3: It's on Sky and now TV in the United Kingdom,
Speaker 3: and it's also in Australia, but I can never remember
Speaker 3: kind of why or how.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: If that's kind of your thing in Australia, if.
Speaker 2: Your thing is being Australian and living in that country.
Speaker 3: It's also I think I think it's available in I
Speaker 3: want to say Norway, because I'm getting a lot of
Speaker 3: Instagram dms in Norwegian. Unless that's something else, but I
Speaker 3: don't know what it would be, haven't done.
Speaker 1: I think you should look into that, Leo. I've enjoyed
Speaker 1: this immensely, me too. Thank you for your time, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I have a wonderful death. Good
Speaker 1: day to you, sir. That was episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty five. Head over to the Patreon at patreon dot com.
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Speaker 1: much appreciated. Thank you so much the Leo for doing
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics that leads Ali
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Speaker 1: really hope you're all well. That is it for now,
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Speaker 1: more than ever, be excellent to each other.
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