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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in. It is another beautiful Fox Football Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Week eleven of your National Football League season already underway.

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Speaker 2: We'll go through the particulars of that first game from

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Speaker 2: the winning side, because that's far more compelling as we

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Speaker 2: roll through. As much as we love chaos, for the

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Speaker 2: purpose of the show today, we will highlight greatness at

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Speaker 2: every opportunity. Welcome in on Mike Garment alongside me forty

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Speaker 2: six years NFL films the Matchup Show and he joins

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Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd on Thursdays one pm Eastern. It's my buddy,

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Speaker 2: Greg Coast Cell. We're back together for another fun and

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Speaker 2: exciting two hour run here at Fox Sports Radio at

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Speaker 2: Greg Coast Cell. Greg, another big week, and as I

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Speaker 2: look at it, we've got fifteen games in total, only

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Speaker 2: the Saints and Colts taking the week off, so one

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor cannot save people's fantasy teams this week. But

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Speaker 2: we've got a slate that I would say is about

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Speaker 2: half and a half half of really great games and

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Speaker 2: compelling matchups on both sides. A few whether it's one sided,

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Speaker 2: and what are they? Can you know can they avoid

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Speaker 2: a letdown? And then of course there's always a couple

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Speaker 2: of hey, I'm really happy for your home team kind

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Speaker 2: of situations.

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Speaker 3: No, there's some good ones this week, Mike, for sure,

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Speaker 3: some really compelling games. I know we'll get to those

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Speaker 3: in some detail. But looking forward to another Sunday morning, Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's football Sunday. What could be better than that?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we get an early game. We've got the Commanders

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Speaker 2: and the Dolphins coming to us from the stadium of

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Speaker 2: Real Madrid. So another one of these international fairs.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the last one, is it not international game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that'll do it some some to talk about

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Speaker 2: on that game. We'll get to that coming up in

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes from now. But we hit the rewind

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Speaker 2: button and we go back to Thursday night because a

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Speaker 2: lot of conversation flowing out of it, particularly on the

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Speaker 2: winning side. As we talk about a certain young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear a little Drake May at work.

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Speaker 1: Stapp to May looks to his left, he pumps, he throws,

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Speaker 1: pull puts down Patriots and who cut it trivial Underson.

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Speaker 2: Tred for the rookie, have yourself a day, Rooke, no

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Speaker 2: question about it. Three touchdowns too on the ground. The

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Speaker 2: receiving end there from Drake May, who operated from what

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Speaker 2: might have been the cleanest pocket we will see all

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Speaker 2: season long. They got one sack on him, a couple

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Speaker 2: of hurries, but twenty five and thirty four overall, throwing

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Speaker 2: to a lot of space and Stefan Diggs celebrating the

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Speaker 2: birth of a child, goes for nine and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and five, Greg And what looks a lot closer than

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Speaker 2: I think it in terms of the final box score

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Speaker 2: as to opposed to watching it on Thursday night, to

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Speaker 2: where if you didn't have the scoreboard in front of you,

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Speaker 2: you would have thought New England was up forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. May's obviously played extremely well this year. He's so

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Speaker 3: poised and composed. You watch him war in the pocket,

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Speaker 3: kind of navigate the pocket. Everything looks controlled, Mike, Everything

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Speaker 3: looks calculated. He sees the field with clarity. You know

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Speaker 3: what a lot of defenses try to do with young

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks is they do what we call late coverage rotation.

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Speaker 3: They show you something pre snap and then they change

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Speaker 3: the picture post snap, and that can be very difficult

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Speaker 3: for you on quarterbacks because it speeds up their internal clock.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of time to begin with,

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Speaker 3: and then for a millimeter of a second they don't

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Speaker 3: see it the right way. That can be a little difficult,

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Speaker 3: but he is really really good at seeing things. Even

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Speaker 3: versus that late coverage rotation, it does not slow down

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Speaker 3: its processing. And one other point, they are so good

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Speaker 3: I think you and I have probably talked about this before,

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Speaker 3: but first down is normally the best down to throw

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Speaker 3: on for multiple reasons. And they are aggressive throwing the

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Speaker 3: ball on first down. And May's been phenomenal eight touchdowns

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Speaker 3: on first downs, no interceptions, completing seventy eight percent of

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Speaker 2: Starting to see just that difference in philosophy, I think

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Speaker 2: big playability here with Ramandre Stevenson out once again. Has

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Speaker 2: the Lions share nineteen of the twenty on on our

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. I should say rushing attempts overall, but still

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Speaker 2: being judicious with the usage, knowing that as the weather turns,

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Speaker 2: perhaps you're gonna need a little more of the short

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Speaker 2: But in the passing game, mac Hollins was number two.

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, as I said, stepped up with nine of

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Speaker 2: is Stefan Diggs still you know, would you still consider

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Speaker 2: him that true number one that he was those years ago?

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Speaker 2: I mean spreading the ball around and Drake may standing

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Speaker 2: tall in the pocket week after week, it's no Fluke

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Speaker 2: at this point folks that wanted to dismiss this new

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think Diggs is a true number one

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Speaker 3: schemed offense. Josh McDaniels obviously has been doing this for

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Speaker 3: a long time, Mike, But I wouldn't put Diggs, you know,

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Speaker 3: true number ones. But I think one important point here,

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Speaker 3: he's a very important player. But their defense is very good.

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Speaker 3: They've got good players at all three levels, and they're

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Speaker 3: not a high percentage pressure defense. They're very selective with it,

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Speaker 3: typical of Rabel. They've got guys that you've probably never

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Speaker 3: And then they have another kid on the d line

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Speaker 3: named Durden. I believe it is. And you know, this

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Speaker 3: He wants guys that can perform and play and give

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Speaker 3: effort and can take hard coaching. That's a big deal

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Speaker 3: with Mike Rabel. Hard coaching and that doesn't mean yelling

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Speaker 2: It's funny. We looked up Durden the other day, right

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Speaker 2: his name coming up a bit. As you mentioned here, Greg,

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Speaker 2: he was originally a free agent pickup by the Lions.

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Speaker 3: And I think when he came out of high school,

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Speaker 2: In my mind that that was right, yep.

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Speaker 3: a small school guy that didn't come didn't have any pedigree.

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Speaker 3: But obviously he moved around was viewed as a big

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Speaker 3: time prospect. But guys like that, you know, they're really

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Speaker 3: really important to Mike Rabel. If you can line up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would look at that defense. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: Gonzalez was the big name from the twenty three draft.

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Speaker 2: You bring in Landry and Carlton Davis and.

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Speaker 3: Look at the safety Woodson. Woodson's a fourth round pick,

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Speaker 3: amazingly enough had a number four players last year on

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Speaker 2: Pretty amazing considering what that team was.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so, so, I mean you're dealing with you know,

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Speaker 3: here's Woodson. That's the reason they got rid of Kyle

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Speaker 3: he's played well. So you know this is I don't

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Speaker 3: takes nothing away from Drake May who's obviously playing phenomenal football.

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Speaker 3: But they are not a one dimensional team.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely got to celebrate it on both side. It's

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Speaker 2: clearly a lot of run, no question about it. For

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Speaker 2: Drake May as he is the favorite in the MVP

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Speaker 2: the games of week eleven, and certainly some other candidates

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Speaker 2: no question about it. We talk about the New England

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Speaker 2: defense overall. They are currently fifth in what I call

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Speaker 2: total defense. I do only care how many points you

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Speaker 2: give up, Greg right, you can move the ball between

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Speaker 2: the twenties all you want. I don't care. Eighteen point

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Speaker 2: seven points per game allowed. That has done good, about

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Speaker 2: two points behind the leaders, who are the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and by the way, do you think that

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Speaker 3: it's a soundration. Yeah, it's Landry who was with him

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Speaker 3: in Tennessee with Rabel and Tennessee. And then it's another

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Speaker 3: example of a guy who's been with a few teams

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Speaker 3: is Chase On and he was a first round pick

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Speaker 3: when he came out of LSU. Actually thought he'd be

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Speaker 3: a good pro. But it's starting to show up now.

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Speaker 3: So again, now you have to start to think about

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Speaker 3: the coaching end of it.

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Speaker 2: Six and a half on the year ten tackles disruptors

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Speaker 2: taking care of business. Obviously it's the Jets. So you know,

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Speaker 2: the only thing there is continued chaos. As we watched

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Speaker 2: while here. Turns out that was really it did get.

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Speaker 3: To be twenty one to fourteen in the third quarter. Mic, So,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anybody felt watching the game

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's an NFL team and it's an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that first drive was impressive, though going full

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Speaker 2: drives through a first quarter of a game. Yeah, New

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Speaker 2: England drive wasn't even finished at that point.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean there's not obviously a lot to say

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Speaker 3: number of weeks. Obviously, Irving gives them explosiveness as a back,

433
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Speaker 3: both as a runner and receiver. They don't have that

434
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Speaker 3: right now. So their offense has been a little uneven,

435
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: let's use that word. But I think the bigger story

436
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: here is really the Bills. And you know, the Bills

437
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: are a team I watch really closely and have for

438
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: years and years, and you know, I've talked about this

439
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: even going back to last year, particularly in the matchup

440
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: room here with my guys. The Bills passing game in

441
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: many ways, with its concepts, is somewhat elementary, and it's

442
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: so there's a number of things that work here. The

443
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: past game concepts are somewhat elementary. Allan does have a

444
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Speaker 3: tendance obviously to break down in the pocket prematurely and

445
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: make special plays with his legs and his arm. But

446
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: what's happening now is, for whatever reason, he's not trusting

447
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: the process, however basic it may be, He's not delivering

448
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: the ball within the structure that is presented. So you

449
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: have a combination here that's very it's very odd. You

450
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: have it an offensive approach in the past game that

451
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 3: doesn't really present a lot to him, and I don't

452
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 3: know whether he's not comfortable with it. I don't know

453
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Speaker 3: the reason. But there's just not a lot to their

454
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Speaker 3: passing game right now, and it's just it's a hard

455
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Speaker 3: watch right now. And I don't know what their playing is.

456
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: I know they're changing receiver's word is that Kean Coleman's

457
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: going to be a healthy scratch. The Hardman is up.

458
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: I think Gabe Davis will be up. Look, when Gabe

459
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 3: Davis left Buffalo, he was just another guy, So I

460
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Speaker 3: don't know what they expect from him. The only thing

461
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Speaker 3: with Hardman is he can run. So I'm very anxious

462
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Speaker 3: to see them today because this is a pass game

463
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Speaker 3: that needs a lot more conceptually in what they do

464
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Speaker 3: with route concepts and combinations.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Davis said, what ten games, twenty catches for

466
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: the Jaguars now returns to Buffalo going to get elevated. There,

467
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Speaker 2: you mentioned Kean Coleman, a healthy scratch for Josh Allen

468
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: overall seventy percent completion, three to one touchdown to interception

469
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: ratio fifteen to five, career best in terms of completion

470
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Speaker 2: percentage at that seventy point three percent and yards per

471
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Speaker 2: attempt at eight point one, but trying to find some

472
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Speaker 2: sumblance of consistency. The Dalton Concaid's out for this one.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah as well, Who's been a leading receiver for them

474
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Speaker 2: a number of times. And we've talked about trying to

475
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Speaker 2: find that go to trustworthy guy. I mean, Khalil Shakir

476
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: can move the chains, but the explosives aren't there.

477
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Speaker 3: So yeah, and as good as Alan is and there's

478
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Speaker 3: no question he's a terrific quarterback, he does have that tendency.

479
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Speaker 3: If he doesn't see it right away, he's going to

480
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: leave the pocket. And we know he can make special plays.

481
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: That's a given. He's done that his whole career and

482
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: some of the plays he makes are just incredible, wow plays.

483
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Speaker 3: But that's not the way to build a consistent pass

484
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Speaker 3: game that you can count on week to week. You know,

485
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: no coach rolls the ball out in practice and says, hey,

486
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Speaker 3: you know what, let's just run around and see what

487
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: happens today, and then hey, good things may happen. You

488
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: can't do that. You've got to find a way to

489
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Speaker 3: play within the structure of the offense with some kind

490
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Speaker 3: of consistency.

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Speaker 2: Now as we look a little further down the schedule,

492
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Speaker 2: Greg we get the return of Brock Purty yep, and

493
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Speaker 2: a lot's been made of it the last few weeks

494
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Speaker 2: of the difference between mac Jones and brock Purty in

495
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Speaker 2: terms of their orchestration of the offense. Jones a quitting

496
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Speaker 2: himself quite nicely during this stretch five and three record

497
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: Party hasn't been under center since going back to September

498
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers as a whole minus eight

499
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: and the take in the turnover ratio fifteen giveaway on

500
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Speaker 2: the year. We talked about Christian McCaffrey. He's already up

501
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: over thirteen hundred total yards on the season. They will

502
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Speaker 2: get Ricky Piers All back in looking at the squad

503
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: and then I kind of their ebb and flow. He

504
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: hasn't played since the end of September and he's still

505
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: their third leading receiver by a pretty wide margin. So

506
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: some happy returns here. But I guess the elemental thing

507
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: is how much difference is the offense with Brock Purdy

508
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Speaker 2: under center.

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Speaker 3: Probably it won't be much different conceptually. I think one

510
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: difference between Purdy and Jones and make no mistake, Purdy's

511
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: a better quarterback. Purty's a little more aggressive throwing the ball.

512
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Speaker 3: And now that they get Pierce All back, you know,

513
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Speaker 3: Piersall might not be a true vertical dimension the way

514
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Speaker 3: you think of pure speed, but he does have enough.

515
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Speaker 3: What he does give you something vertically, and I think

516
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Speaker 3: that's been lacking in their offense. Now. Granted, it's a

517
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Speaker 3: very choreographed offense. It's very structured, and then Kyle Shanahan

518
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Speaker 3: always believes that he can call plays that eat the

519
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: defense he anticipates and expects, so that's really how they

520
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: structure their pass game. But Purdy's just a guy that

521
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: he'll be a little more aggressive throwing the ball. Purty

522
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Speaker 3: is I don't like to use the word elade because

523
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: it's too strong a word, but he's a really good

524
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Speaker 3: post snap operator because their offense is what we call

525
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 3: pure progression. So in other words, they call plays and

526
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Speaker 3: there's a primary, there's a secondary, there's a third, and

527
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Speaker 3: then the quarterback will move and Purdy's really good at recognizing, hey,

528
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Speaker 3: what's the defense. My primary is going to be there? No,

529
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Speaker 3: my primary is not. Now my secondary's there. He's really

530
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Speaker 3: good post snap. Now, Jones is good too, but I

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Speaker 3: think Purdy's really high level.

532
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Speaker 2: Now as we look at this game six and four,

533
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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers still trying to fight in the West.

534
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about Seahawks and Rams in about ten minutes

535
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Speaker 2: from now, but another game here in division for the

536
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. They've got Arizona on the other side,

537
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Speaker 2: operating with Jacoby Brissett, who's been fantastic. Trey McBride has

538
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: really elevated his game here over the last several weeks

539
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: thirty two catches over three hundred yards, five scores. He

540
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: was one of those guys last year marching up and

541
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Speaker 2: down the field, but seemed like he had well fear

542
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: of the painted grass. Okay, well that was more of

543
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: the quarterbacking in the red zone, but either way it

544
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: played out that way. Here he's finding his stride. Nope,

545
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: Fred Warner, we're seeing tight end's feast in that regard

546
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: since he's been off the field. Big big game for

547
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: San Francisco on the very big three and a half

548
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: point favorites for here. No Marvin Harrison Junior out after

549
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: an appendectomy. De Mercado Demarcado will be the leader in

550
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: the backfield for Arizona, but just a different flow with

551
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett and pretty dangerous against a San Francisco defense

552
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: that's not getting the same level of juice and heat

553
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: on quarterbacks that we're used to.

554
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Speaker 3: No, they've not been able to rush the court back

555
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: effectively with their four down linemen, So that becomes a

556
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: week to week thing. What does Robert Salo want to do?

557
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: Depending on the opponent, you could see more blitz pressure

558
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: this week. It's not a very good Cards all aligned.

559
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett at times will hold the ball in the pocket.

560
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: But at least what Prissette gives you is there's a

561
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: little sense of structure to the pass game. He'll make

562
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: the throws, he sees it, he'll make the throws, but

563
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: he does have a tendency to hold the ball a

564
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Speaker 3: Last week's game for the Cards was just one of

565
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: those games. Not that you burn the tape, No coaches

566
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: ever do that. They obviously look at the tape. But

567
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: they were down thirty five nothing early in the second quarter.

568
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: Tough to really play that way, but they're really their

569
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: defense is not an easy defense to play against. They're

570
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: very they're very tactical and how they approach things. They

571
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: don't have great corners. We'll see. This is like you said,

572
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Speaker 3: this is a big game for the Niners to stay

573
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Speaker 3: in the race because obviously we'll talk about Seahawks Rams,

574
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: which is one of the two biggest games on the

575
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Speaker 3: schedule this week, but they've they've got to win this

576
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: game to stay, you know, within within a chance of

577
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Speaker 3: winning the division.

578
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question this one this week. Eleven matchup

579
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: division matchups there in the NFC West. Yeah, looming large

580
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: and nothing bigger than Stafford and Sam Donald. I still

581
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: just like being able to talk about Sam Donald in

582
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: big games. It really just tickles the funny bone. Just

583
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: the way the NFL works. Guys get the opportunity and

584
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: they bounce a little bit, find a right system, a

585
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: right coach, and an approach, and they're certainly in Seattle

586
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. It's working that night.

587
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: I work with a Jets fan five nights a week, Greg,

588
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: So whatever he's Jet now good. It goes on a

589
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: giant board here.

590
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Speaker 3: For I mean, we'll get to that in detail, but

591
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: it's coaching in scheme with quarterbacks. You know, there's very

592
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: few transcendent quarterbacks. People might think there are, but there

593
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: are very few, and even the ones that we consider great.

594
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Speaker 3: I mean, I get an opportunity to talk to defense

595
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: of coaches and they'll tell you that there are certain

596
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: flaws and games of quarterbacks we think are just great,

597
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: and they are great, but you know, the defenses still

598
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: see things and know that, hey, if we can do

599
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: this or do that, they're not going to be as good.

600
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Speaker 3: So with a quarterback, it comes down to coaching and

601
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: scheme more than anything else.

602
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Speaker 2: At Greg Cosell where you find them on Twitter, find

603
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue here, let's

604
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Speaker 2: get to another game. As my guys, we're leaving. We

605
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: have a number of our brethren here at Fox Sports

606
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Speaker 2: Radio that work on the Chargers broadcast. They were killing

607
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Speaker 2: it the quote return to the scene of the crime.

608
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Speaker 2: Minus three are the Chargers on the road against the

609
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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. When we talk about the Jaguars still tied

610
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: for second in terms of turnover differential, just behind Chicago,

611
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: the leaders in the clubhouse there but for Trevor Lawrence

612
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: ten touchdowns against seven picks. Injuries plaguing that receiving core

613
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Speaker 2: etn is explosive on occasion, but certainly not the consistency

614
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: they anticipated. But for the Chargers, it's been a lot

615
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: of early success with other receivers, but the past five

616
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: or six weeks it's that connection between Herbert and Lad

617
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: McConaughey once again.

618
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've they've run the ball well enough that

619
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Speaker 3: it's they've been able to sort of settle down a

620
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: little bit because they just don't have a very good

621
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Speaker 3: offensive line. And when you don't have a very good

622
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Speaker 3: offensive line as good as Herbert's been by the way

623
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Speaker 3: making plays with his legs, you don't want to really

624
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: be in that situation all the time, you know. But

625
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball, you know, I've

626
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: always enjoyed watching Jesse Minter, the decoordinator for the Chargers,

627
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: even going back to Michigan. I think he does really

628
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: good things. Now. He's not what should call a high

629
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Speaker 3: percentage Blitzer mic, but he's very selective and he's very

630
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Speaker 3: very good at it. And this particular opponent, the Jaguars,

631
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: with an old line that's probably just okay, and a

632
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: quarterback quite frankly Lawrence who's not played particularly well and

633
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: he's played long enough now that we start to think

634
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Speaker 3: this is who he is. I would not be surprised

635
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: to see a little bit higher blitz frequency in this

636
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: game by Jesse Minter. Doesn't mean he's all of a

637
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: sudden gonna blitz, you know, fifty percent of the time,

638
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: but I think you'll see him just amp up and

639
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: dial up some more blitzes and in certain high leverage situations,

640
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: long yardede situations, and I think that'll be a problem

641
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: for the Jaguars.

642
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: Could be a big opportunity on both sides to get

643
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: home twenty six sacks allowed by the Jaguars, Herbert has

644
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: taken thirty three. To your point about using his legs,

645
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: he's got more rushing yards than Josh Allen at this

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Speaker 2: point in the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he's been doing that quite a bit. And

648
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Speaker 3: again some of that's a function of the fact that

649
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Speaker 3: the old line obviously they're playing with backup tackles, and

650
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Speaker 3: it's hard in this league to play with backup tackles.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just you know, to spit weigh so

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Speaker 3: much exactly, Yeah, I mean, because yeah, then you have

653
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Speaker 3: to start keeping people in whether they're primary pass protectors,

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Speaker 3: which means you're cutting down on the number of eligible

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Speaker 3: receivers you send out into routes or even if the

656
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Speaker 3: chip that means that they're not really primary receivers, they

657
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Speaker 3: are sort of later in the down receivers. So it

658
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Speaker 3: impacts what you can do in your pass game because

659
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Speaker 3: I learned this a long time ago from John Gruden.

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Speaker 3: And the first thing when I was talking to John

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Speaker 3: Gruden years ago that he said to me was, you

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Speaker 3: don't have a pass game if you can't protect. And

663
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Speaker 3: he's right, if you can't protect, you don't have a

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Speaker 3: pass game. So protection always has to be number one.

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Speaker 2: See always one of my favorites. When you start talking

666
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Speaker 2: about a point, you really had to pay attention because

667
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Speaker 2: you would get this guy and it's like, well, okay,

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Speaker 2: who was he talking about.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, right, right, right, right? But what? But no,

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Speaker 3: I mean so it all Look, you know, they've gotten

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Speaker 3: decent production, pretty good from from Vidal the running back,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I assume it'll continue to be him.

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Speaker 3: I guess Hampton should.

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Speaker 2: Be back either next week or the week after. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: be able to be ramped up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because because with that O line, they do need

677
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Speaker 3: to have some let's put it this, they need some

678
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Speaker 3: volume in their run game. Obviously, everybody wants production, but

679
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Speaker 3: they can't have with that old line. Herbert dropping back

680
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Speaker 3: forty five times a game by choice just not sustainable.

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Speaker 2: The big end game goal here, as I joke about

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Speaker 2: it often as I drive the highways of Los Angeles,

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Speaker 2: we've got the accident and injury attorneys, the theme parks,

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Speaker 2: and we've got Harbaugh and the Chargers up on the

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Speaker 2: billboards there. Greg, So you be able to sell those

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Speaker 2: on by this week, the Indianapolis Colts and New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 2: Go get your Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor and I guess

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warrener would be the three people you'd take off

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Speaker 2: your rosters that you have to sub out, but you

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Speaker 2: Fair Live from Spain as we get the Commanders and

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Speaker 2: Dolphins here forty five minutes from now. But Greg, we

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Speaker 2: got another big one in the NFC West, A massive

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Speaker 2: game for the division lead, and one guy making his

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Speaker 2: claim for an MVP nod. Matthew hows It, throws down

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Speaker 2: the line tunnel screen, Pooka.

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Speaker 1: Nakua gets one block, now another.

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Speaker 2: He's cleaned. Ten.

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Speaker 5: Five touchdown Pooka ten.

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Speaker 2: The Rams serge to a two touchdown lead in Santa Clara,

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Speaker 2: Hey go the Rams radio network on the call. Sixty

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Speaker 2: seven percent completion rate overall, twenty five touchdown against two picks,

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Speaker 2: thirteen touchdowns the last two weeks. Nikua with touchdowns four

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Speaker 2: of five, Adams with six touchdowns over the last three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Nine overall. The offensive jug or not that the run through,

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Speaker 2: even if the run game has its fits and starts

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Speaker 2: along the way. With Korum and Williams, Greg I mean's

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. I think finally getting some of those appreciation notes,

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Speaker 2: even though he was great for all those years in

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Speaker 2: Detroit was kind of dismissed. Teaming him up with Sean

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Speaker 2: McVay takes him to that whole next level.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question about that. I mean, he's always

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Speaker 3: been a great quarterback. But I got to tell you, Mike,

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Speaker 3: they made a change this year beginning three weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: You just don't see this kind of change in the

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Speaker 3: middle of a season. This is a team that three

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Speaker 3: weeks ago started playing with what we call thirteen personnel,

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Speaker 3: one back, three tight ends, and only one wide receiver

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Speaker 3: on the field. Okay, the last three games they've played

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Speaker 3: eighty nine snaps at a thirteen personnel and the first

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Speaker 3: five games of this season no snaps at a thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 3: Last year three snaps total for the whole season. So

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Speaker 3: this is a truly dramatic change. And think of this.

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Speaker 3: In these last three games, Okay, Stafford has dropped back

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Speaker 3: thirty two times at a thirteen personnel. He's throwing eight

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Speaker 3: touchdown passes. That's remarkable. One quarter of his dropbacks in

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Speaker 3: thirteen personnel in the last three games have been touchdown passes.

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Speaker 3: And a couple of other points about it. Nicoua really

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Speaker 3: only plays when they're an eleven personnel with three wide

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Speaker 3: receivers on the field. He does not play when they

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Speaker 3: have two tight ends on the field hardly ever, and

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Speaker 3: he never plays when they're with three tight ends and

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Speaker 3: the wide receiver and three tight ends is usually Devonte Adams,

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's Mumpfield. But this is just an unbelievably dramatic

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Speaker 3: change in their offensive approach.

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Speaker 2: Just an amazing run and a heater that they're on

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Speaker 2: right now is one of the marquee matchups of this

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Speaker 2: part of the season. Forty eight and a half. The

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Speaker 2: total rams about a field goal are three and night

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Speaker 2: hook favorite with Sam Darnold and company coming in. Sam

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Speaker 2: seventeen to six touchdown to interception ratio, averaging nearly nine

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Speaker 2: yards per attempt. He's only thrown the ball more than

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Speaker 2: thirty times three times in a game. That run game

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Speaker 2: hasn't been dominant, but as we talk about it, you

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Speaker 2: stay committed to it, grind clock, keep him honus, and

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Speaker 2: try to set up some opportunities downfield. The big thing

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Speaker 2: is always, all right, who's going to rise up alongside

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Speaker 2: JSN when they do a basketball box and one on them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, now they have Shaheed and that fits the

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Speaker 3: entire approach of Klint Kubiak, who starts with the run game.

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Speaker 3: A lot of it is outside zone and then the

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Speaker 3: under center play action and push the ball down the field.

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Speaker 3: That's what they want to do. And now Shaheed with

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Speaker 3: another week of practice in another week, he obviously knows

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Speaker 3: the system. He was in New Orleans with Klink Kubiak,

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Speaker 3: so he's not started from scratch. But that's how they

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Speaker 3: want to play offense. But by the way, their defense,

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Speaker 3: and we could probably spend another segment talking just about

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks defense and the Rams defense, because both these

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Speaker 3: teams are very, very good and very defined in what

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. We've talked about that front

790
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Speaker 2: seven for the Rams quite a bit, but certainly for

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Speaker 2: Seattle McDonald that's the one thing you knew was going

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Speaker 2: to be there as he rolled up. They get the

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Speaker 2: defense in check, but certainly offensively with Sam Darnold. This

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Speaker 2: creates a very tasty matchup for us here in week eleven.

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Speaker 3: Sure does. Yeah, And I think the defense is something

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Speaker 3: we should just revisit quickly after the break because there's

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Speaker 3: some really good things there.

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Speaker 2: We'll dive back in there. Some Jared Vers love, some

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Speaker 2: McDonald love. He's Greg Cosel, Mike Carbon, It's Fox Football

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Speaker 2: Sunday at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: me Greg co Sale forty six years NFL films, the

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Speaker 2: NFL Matchup show you at Greg Cosel. You see some

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Speaker 2: do more of that over the next hour. Some big

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Speaker 2: games still to preview as we roll up and Greg,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the Rams and the Seahawks, the

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Speaker 2: nod to the defenses, certainly Sam Darnold and Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 2: getting the run. But we'll look at the Rams currently

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Speaker 2: second in the NFL giving up just seventeen points per game.

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Speaker 2: Rectified some of those things in the secondary that they

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Speaker 2: still need a kicker and consistent special teams. But we'll

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Speaker 2: address the defense for now. Unless you can kick.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I cannot I cannot kick.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can selve that all. And then Seattle sitting

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Speaker 2: at nineteen point one points allowed per game, that's good

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Speaker 2: for six in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two teams that have very good defensive fronts. Neither

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Speaker 3: team is really a high percentage blitz defense. What they

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Speaker 3: do do is they do what we call stunting, where

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Speaker 3: there's a penetrator and a looper behind, and they are

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Speaker 3: the two teams in the league that stunt the highest

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Speaker 3: percentage of the time with their four man d lines

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Speaker 3: and they're very, very good at it. Now, what's really

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Speaker 3: interesting about Seattle is because of nick em and Wari,

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Speaker 3: who is really a safety, but he's become sort of

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Speaker 3: their second level, multi dimensional player, lining up as the

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Speaker 3: slot corner, lining up in the box, doing multiple things.

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Speaker 3: Because of nick Emminwari, the Seahawks playing more nickel defense

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Speaker 3: than any team in the league. And on the flip side,

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Speaker 3: the Rams play more dime defense with six defensive backs

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Speaker 3: than any team in the league. So it'll be interesting

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Speaker 3: to see how these teams choose to play against the

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Speaker 3: particular opponent. I mean, we talked about the Rams playing

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Speaker 3: with three tight ends. Will the Seahawks continue to play

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00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: him and worry or will they go to what is

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Speaker 3: truly their base front, which is sort of five across.

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Speaker 3: I guess people think of it as a three to four.

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Speaker 3: I call it a five to two. So it'll be

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Speaker 3: interesting to see how Mike McDonald views is I just

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Speaker 3: to me watching tape, I would not take Nicki min

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Speaker 3: Worriy off the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's curious just going through some of the metrics

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Speaker 2: and some of the deeper dives. Fourth most blitzed on

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Speaker 2: the year's Matthew Stafford. Yes, and just Carvin teams up

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00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: if you can't get home. I think kind of going

861
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: back to those preseason injury issues and the fact that

862
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: he is not terribly mobile. Of our if we can collect,

863
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: we've got a shot. But I mean he gets the

864
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: ball out fast and two of the surest handed guys

865
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: in Nikua and Adams in the game.

866
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Stafford is. The great thing about Stafford too,

867
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: just having played so long, is he sees things before

868
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: the snap. He's very good checking audibling, doing whatever is

869
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: necessary before the snap. Keep in mind that against the

870
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: blitz this year he's thrown eighteen touchdowns without an interception.

871
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: That leads the NFL by far. So yes, he's been

872
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: blitzed a good amount in terms of just sheer numbers,

873
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: but he's been really really good versus blitz and Mike

874
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: McDonald is not by nature a high percentage blitzer.

875
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: And certainly here Stafford might just have a sign blinking

876
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: that says, ideare you which at eighteen to nothing ratio

877
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: that you cite.

878
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: Greg Well and the other thing. Just one quick point,

879
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 3: if they're going to play a lot more with you

880
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: continue playing with thirteen personnel, and one would think they

881
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: would given the six they've had, very very hard to

882
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: blitz versus thirteen personnel because of the defense that you're playing.

883
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: You know, Tom Brady and I made a note of this.

884
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: Tom Brady talked about this because he had that game.

885
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: He said the here's what he said. Because I really

886
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: made a note of this. I said, the interesting thing

887
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: about eleven personnel eleven now three y is that there's

888
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: probably twenty to twenty five different coverage combinations you can

889
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: face as a quarterback. When you go to with three

890
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: tight end grouping and they play more base defense, you're

891
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: only dealing with three or four combinations. So it simplifies

892
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 3: the defensive playbook by about twenty percent, so many less

893
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: looks for a quarterback to diagnose post snap and allows

894
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: you as a play call or to dial up exactly

895
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 3: what you want. That's what Tom Brady said doing the game,

896
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: and he obviously knows a little more about quarterbacking than

897
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 3: I do, so keep that in mind. That's one reason

898
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: why the thirteen personnel is such an effective personnel package.

899
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: Gives you the read. It's the tell at the poker table,

900
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford as he flows through. All right, so we've

901
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: got the well accomplished on the road. He and Drake

902
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: may ahead in the MVP candidacy. Thus far, Let's go

903
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: to another game, go to the NFCED north Well and

904
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: my guy who's starting to come into his own and

905
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: getting some love along the way, let's hear little Caleb Williams. Okay,

906
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: as we wait on that the Bears. All right, we'll

907
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: do that again. All right, let's tell you here, little

908
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams Walls rolling was.

909
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: Left running now fifteen to ten, five head zone, tiptze

910
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 5: in touchdown in the blue pain. Caleb Williams seventeen yards.

911
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Took care of business himself, the scramble to get it done.

912
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: Jeff Joniac on the call again. Some of those shots

913
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: from the Chicago radio booth and certainly their postgame show.

914
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: It's highly entertaining, even if you're not a fan of

915
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: the Bears, even if you hate the Bears, they are

916
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: animated to an entire different level. We look at Caleb

917
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: Williams right now, Greg thirteen touchdowns against four picks. Yeah,

918
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: sixty point eight completion rate certainly not the metric in

919
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 2: today's NFL that stands out. It only got one game

920
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: with greater than sixty percent completion rate since Week three.

921
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: But you're looking at a defense that's been greatly opportunistic

922
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: and Williams and Ben Johnson dialing up the right plays

923
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: when it matters in the fourth quarter of late.

924
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, number of things. Number one, that winning touchdown, that

925
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: was a great snapshot of Williams at this point in

926
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: his development. For this reason, it was play action boot

927
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: left with Comet wide open immediately on the crosser from

928
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: the back side. That was the play. The ball should

929
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: have been thrown to Commet, but he kept the ball

930
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 3: and ran, so we had a great result on the

931
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: absolutely wrong decision. That's a very good snapshot of Williams

932
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: at this time. But the one thing that is starting

933
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: to really stand out is the Ben Jonson offenses really

934
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: starting to take shape. Williams has the second most play

935
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: action dropbacks from under center in the NFL, and that

936
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: is truly a foundation of the Ben Johnson passing game.

937
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: And so we're starting to see that Williams is obviously

938
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: a special talent who can make certain throws, particularly on

939
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 3: the move, that not a lot of guys can make.

940
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: Just with the velocity is what I'm talking about, and

941
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: he makes four or five plays a game. I mean,

942
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: you may remember the Burden twenty seven yard completion on

943
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: the winning TD drive. I know you're a Bears guy.

944
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: I mean that was a stutter go stop and that

945
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: was an unbelievable throw without standing anticipation, great timing, precise

946
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 3: ball placement. If you were sitting with me, Mike as

947
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: I'm watching that, and I froze it when Williams started

948
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: his delivery, you know, just when he separates his hand,

949
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: burden hadn't even really begun, you wouldn't have known where

950
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: he was throwing the ball. And that's the kind of

951
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: anticipation that you really love to see from a young quarterback.

952
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: So he's developing. But he's a little uneven, which is

953
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: one reason why you mentioned the completion percentage. But he's

954
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: you know, he's obviously still a work in progress, but

955
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 3: you know what, he makes really important plays and they're winning.

956
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: Well, it's it back to back wins, looking at six

957
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: of their last seven after those two opening losses in

958
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: division to the Vikings and Lions, and now gets another

959
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: shot at these Vikings on the road, a game that

960
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: was defined by the fourth quarter by JJ McCarthy that

961
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: first time out. And now we look at him on

962
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: the other side here absorbed a bunch of really, he'll

963
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: take his hits. He's averaging what's fifty three point seven

964
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: percent thus far, only one sack against Baltimore, but just

965
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: six point four yards per a ten. You've got justin

966
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: Jefferson still looking to find his way in this offense

967
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: just ten what twenty one yards over the last couple

968
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: of week weeks, and you're looking at Naylor was the

969
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: big hero a week ago on Jubern twenty four in

970
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: a touchdown, So that secondary guy that he was working

971
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: with on his way back. I guess we always kind

972
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: of point that out for fantasy purposes, but a Minnesota

973
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: offense that still begets a lot of questions.

974
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, two quick points. I just want to go back. Yeah,

975
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: I think that this game is going to be fascinating

976
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 3: to see what Brian Floreses does because don't forget they

977
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: played Week one. At that point, you're not sure what

978
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: Williams is going to look like in the Ben Johnson offense.

979
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 3: Now you have a lot of tape, and Flora's obviously

980
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: knows Ben Johnson, so I'm very curious to see. I

981
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: can't wait to see that tape next week when I

982
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: can really study it. But getting back to McCarthy, McCarthy

983
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: and none of this is a surprise, by the way, Okay,

984
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: this is not a surprise. So McCarthy is is a

985
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 3: very inexperienced player who has a lot more developing to do.

986
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 3: So what that often means for young quarterbacks. You see

987
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: it even with Jackson Dart, who's obviously not playing this week.

988
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: But McCarthy's playing a little fast mentally right now, and

989
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: that's not a surprise given his lack of experience, and

990
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: you can kind of see that reflected with his at

991
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: times lack of poison in the pocket. Everything's just happening

992
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 3: a little too fast for him, and that will slow

993
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: down with more experience. And I think I mentioned this

994
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: last week. There's one thing about the way he delivers

995
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: a ball with his lower body mechanics that a lot

996
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: of guys, there have been guys who've done this before,

997
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: and it just limits certain kinds of throws. He's what

998
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: we call a locked front and leg thrower, and so

999
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: when he steps in he locks that front knee, it locks,

1000
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: and it's literally like running into a wall. And I'm

1001
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: not a quarterback coach. I don't know if you can

1002
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: fix that, because I actually think his arm in and

1003
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: of itself is strong. But when you lock your front leg,

1004
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 3: it limits your velocity because you can't bring your hips

1005
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: and your core with you, so you don't really and

1006
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: that's true in any sport. It'd be like trying to

1007
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: hit in baseball without your hips or your core, you know,

1008
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: then you're not going to have any power. So it's

1009
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: it's it's a very interesting thing. And I'm curious to

1010
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: see him as he develops under Kevin O'Connell.

1011
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: Curious to see if that does lead to some physical

1012
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: issues as well. Yeah, and if you're locking that way

1013
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: and the torque and and trying to contort your body

1014
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: along the way. But yeah, to your point, I mean,

1015
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 2: go back to week one. I think it was trying

1016
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: to figure out exactly what it would be and Williams

1017
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: and and the Bears had success early and then Flores

1018
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 2: won won the day Light with McCarthy making a couple

1019
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: of big plays that put him on hero status, and

1020
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: we saw some of that alter ego emerge. But certainly

1021
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: much different game as we look at it here in Minnesota.

1022
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: Nearly a field goal favorite, forty eight and a half

1023
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: to total, so expecting some points because the Bears have

1024
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 2: been opportunistic defensively, no questions about it. But they still

1025
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: have their their spots and they're banged up in the secondary,

1026
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: so perhaps a little more opportunity for Jefferson.

1027
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: And huge game from Minnesota. I mean their home. This

1028
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: is a game they have to win to stay involved.

1029
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: That's a playoff picture. That's scary that we're already at

1030
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: that point in the season, Greg, where we're just starting

1031
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: to really look at the back end and how meaningful

1032
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: these these games are. Yeah, one at a time, and

1033
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 2: we certainly have a couple more big ones to talk

1034
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 2: about here. Two more on on my board that stand

1035
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: out above others, and we'll do one of those as

1036
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: we continue. We've got Kansas City and Denver. The way

1037
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 2: Denver's being talked about, you think they were two and eight.

1038
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: It'll sidle up on that AFC West battle as we continue. Reminder,

1039
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,360
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1040
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,759
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1041
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1043
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,839
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1046
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1047
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: to Brianna and Chris making a sound so pretty, Mark

1048
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: who tagged out a little bit earlier. I'm by Carmen

1049
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: alongside Greg co Sell this Fox Football Sunday. We'll continue

1050
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: with an AFC West battle, highly important one for one

1051
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: squad in particular. We'll do that next on Fox. Welcome

1052
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: back and it's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports or Radio.

1053
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Mike Carmi, Greg co Cell with you. Reminder, just a

1054
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: couple of minutes to get those lineup changes in if

1055
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: you need to activate a commander or a Dolphins player

1056
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: here as they get ready to roll up here early

1057
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: morning the final international game of the year at Swollen Dome,

1058
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: where you find me at Greg co Cell in the twitters.

1059
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: Greg AFC West battle tenver Broncos rolling up to seven

1060
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: straight wins. Bo Nicks has only taken ten sacks. He's

1061
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: completing sixty one percent eighteen and eight the touchdown interception ratio.

1062
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: Adding some effort on the ground. Troy Franklin's become his

1063
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: guy the last couple of weeks, touchdowns three of his

1064
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 2: last four games. They lose JK. Dobbins presumably for the year,

1065
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: some more RJ. Harvey out of the backfield, but you

1066
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: would think they were on the down side of say

1067
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: five or six or all seven of those last decisions.

1068
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: With the conversation surrounding Bo Nicks this.

1069
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: Week, Yeah, well, Knicks, has he struggled a bit this year.

1070
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: He's been very, very uneven. There's been times he's looked good.

1071
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: There's other times he hasn't looked very good at all.

1072
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: And he's been for a guy who's in his second

1073
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: year and has played a lot of football, is in

1074
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 3: a Sean Payton offense, there are times he just looks

1075
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: a little for netic and chaotic in the way in

1076
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: which he's playing, and that's kind of surprising to me.

1077
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: But you know, the way I would describe it is,

1078
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: I think when the picture gets a little cloudy, he

1079
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: gets hesitant. He's had too many and I hate to

1080
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 3: use this word, but I can't think of another one

1081
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 3: right now. He's had too many panic responses to pressure,

1082
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 3: and sometimes it seems like he's perceiving pressure that isn't

1083
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: really there, so he kind of breaks down and then

1084
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: misses some pretty routine throws. So he just has been

1085
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: very uneven in the way he's played this year. And obviously,

1086
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: with Dobbins now out, it seems for the season r J.

1087
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: Harvey will become the feature back, but the one thing,

1088
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 3: as you said about Nick, he doesn't get sacked very much,

1089
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: but he hasn't been I would say his development hasn't

1090
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: continued the way we probably would have expected off his

1091
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: rookie season.

1092
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 2: Certainly projecting forward when you look at Sean Payton as

1093
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: the go to guru for him. There, we watched the

1094
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: defense rise up, leading the NFL with forty six sacks.

1095
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: They've got their test today trying to hold down the

1096
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs coming out of their bye week. We

1097
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: know Andy Reid and the brilliance historically Mahomes completing about

1098
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: sixty five percent of his throws seventeen five touchdown to

1099
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: interception ratio overall, had that rough outing last time out

1100
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: against the Bills defense. Some I'm wondering if that was,

1101
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, the Bill's Super Bowl and all of those

1102
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: kind of hyperbolic things that we're on it. But Rashie

1103
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: Rice in three games twenty catches two, fifteen and three,

1104
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: changing the element of how they operate the offense. How

1105
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: do they slow down the aggressive front?

1106
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this to me is kind of where

1107
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: the rubber meets the road in this matchup. One of

1108
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: the things you see with the Chiefs offense is Mahomes

1109
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: has been quick to get rid of the ball playing

1110
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: the ball's coming out very quick. He's playing with in structure,

1111
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: within timing well obviously always has the ability to make

1112
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: those special plays outside of structure. He's as good as

1113
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: there we've ever seen doing that with his spatial awareness

1114
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: and his great vision on the move. But he's been

1115
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: getting the ball out quick. And this is a difficult

1116
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 3: defense to play against because they can beat you in

1117
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: so many different ways. They can beat you with pressure,

1118
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: with blitz, they can beat you with just lining up

1119
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: with five across and doing what we call gap you out,

1120
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 3: creating one on one matchups because they have really four

1121
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: guys that can win one on one matchups and both

1122
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: edge players Cooper and Benito and Zach Allen and Franklin Myers.

1123
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: So and one thing about Vance Joseph on the back end,

1124
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: he does a lot of different things. So sometimes it

1125
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: looks like man, but it's not really man. Although it

1126
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: looks like man, you know, he's It's just a very

1127
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: difficult defense to play against. And again I'm not suggesting

1128
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: they're going to shut down the Chiefs because we know

1129
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: what Mahomes has done in his career and how good

1130
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: he is. But to me, it's just a really intriguing

1131
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: tactical matchup as.

1132
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: We look at it. I've got that the board of

1133
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: dropped passes, Matt Patrick Mahomes is tied for fifth in

1134
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: the league with Caleb Williams and cam Ward receivers betraying

1135
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: him some fourteen times the leader in that category. Just

1136
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: go back to our one and put a note there.

1137
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence thirty one drops attributed to his receivers this year.

1138
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: Just an unfas.

1139
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny, that's an interesting stat because

1140
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: I always like to see you know, I'm being honest.

1141
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: I like to see those plays. Sure, you know, before

1142
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 3: I make that. It's just like they have all these

1143
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: metrics now for quarterback throws under pressure, Well I need

1144
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: to see those plays to know what because to me,

1145
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: pressure could be a totally different thing. Very often a

1146
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: lot of these metrics are based on the chips in

1147
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: the players uniforms, and you know, so I have to

1148
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: see those plays in order to know what that means.

1149
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: Same with drops, Yeah, certainly a deeper dive. Just trying

1150
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: to add a little more flavor to it all. Not

1151
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: all drops created equal of course, correct as well, you

1152
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: know what my fingertip versus two hands versus hey, he's

1153
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: wide open, So right, all of those things. As we continue,

1154
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: we'll get to Philly in Detroit in another big one

1155
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 2: after we talked to Dan Bayer at the news desk,

1156
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: because that is to me, the last of the massive

1157
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: games from both sides. But let's really quick give a

1158
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: minute to this one. Green Bay back to back loss. Yeah,

1159
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: only twenty points combined, sixty eight point nine percent overall

1160
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: for Jordan Love, Caleb Love bringing in point guards from

1161
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: college basketball path, thirteen touchdowns against three picks. But you've

1162
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: got four games where he's thrown for fewer than two

1163
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: hundred yards. Really the offense all Josh Jacobs eight of

1164
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: nine games, hasn't had one hundred yard rushing game yet,

1165
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: which is surprising. I mean, he's gotten close couple times,

1166
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: but hasn't eclipsed that. And they get to navigate Jamis

1167
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: Winston in the post Brian Dable era. So it's a

1168
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: new world order with Mike Kafka. But for Green Bay

1169
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: right now, sputtering in the heart of the season.

1170
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, offensively, they've been a little bit of enigma to me,

1171
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 3: because when I watch their tape, I don't feel like

1172
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: Jordan Love if I'm just evaluating him as an isolated quarterback.

1173
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't feel like he's playing poorly. Now. Last week

1174
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: against the Eagles, he had a couple of poor plays. Certainly,

1175
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: that fumble late in the first half was something you

1176
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 3: cannot do, and certainly in a game like that where

1177
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: that was very close and just it seems like one

1178
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: play becomes magnified. But I don't think he's played poorly.

1179
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 3: Based on a breakdown of his tape, you made a

1180
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: great point about the run game, you know. I think

1181
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: we would have expected Josh Jacobs to have one hundred

1182
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: yards multiple times this year, and their run game hasn't

1183
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: been quite as good as we've seen it the last

1184
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: couple of years. And we know that Matt Lafleur really

1185
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: wants his offense to start there. So it's they've been

1186
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: a little you know, they're kind of an enigma wrapped

1187
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: in a riddle to me, Mike, I'm just not sure

1188
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: when I watch their tape what to make of it,

1189
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: because it's easy right now to say, oh, Jordan Love,

1190
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 3: Jordan Love. You know, that's the immediate. You know how

1191
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 3: it goes with quarterbacks. Team plays well, that means quarterbacks great.

1192
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: Team doesn't play well, quarterback stinks. That's the way people

1193
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: automatically respond. But if you watch Love carefully on tape,

1194
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: he has not played poorly.

1195
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Pavlovian experiment to him. Yes, yeah, And

1196
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: even when teams win again, I give the nod to

1197
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: my hometown of Chicago. They can win by two touchdowns,

1198
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 2: and certainly the criticisms of the quarterback are going to

1199
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 2: be loud and well, trying to generate some calls along

1200
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: the way. Jackson dart out with concussion in this one.

1201
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: We've talked about the frequent yeah trips to the tent,

1202
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: and they finally add up to where he has to

1203
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: miss a game, and for us, we get the excitement

1204
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: that is Jamis Winston. You know what I'm saying Hamilton

1205
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: stuff earlier this week.

1206
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: I'm glad to see it. You know what, there's a guy. Look.

1207
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 3: I know when he was in Tampa. Obviously he threw

1208
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: a lot of interceptions. He had that one year where

1209
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: he threw thirty. But there's something about Jameis Winston the

1210
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 3: way he plays that I liked and he's a very

1211
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 3: aggressive thrower. Certainly, what he did last year in Cleveland

1212
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 3: on a bad team, you almost have to throw that out.

1213
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: But that year, which I forget what year was, maybe

1214
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, is it back that far when he

1215
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 3: was the starter for New Orleans and he tore his

1216
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: acl what in week seven, eight or nine? And he

1217
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: I think he These are just numbers, but they're reflective

1218
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: of how he was playing. I think he had fourteen

1219
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: touchdowns and only three interceptions.

1220
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, about sixty of his passes, but yeah, fourteen and three.

1221
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 3: He's never gonna have a high high completion percentage because

1222
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 3: he's an aggressive thrower. But he was doing very very

1223
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: well that year in that offense. And you know, of course,

1224
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: that's the last time he really had meaningful you know,

1225
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: when he was the defined starter and in some ways,

1226
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: I don't look, I don't know every situation he's been in,

1227
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: but I think he could have been a good NFL

1228
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: quarterback in the right situation. Now, this is probably not

1229
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 3: the best situation, just like Cleveland wasn't a year ago.

1230
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: But we'll see. I mean, the one thing about Jameis

1231
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 3: Winston is he will throw the football.

1232
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: That's gonna say he's gonna play free and loose. There

1233
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: is no no question to that. Yeah, and obviously go

1234
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: back to his college days. Guy had some some missteps

1235
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: and some problems. It seems like he's rectified a lot

1236
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: of that. And when he gets in front of a microphone,

1237
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: we get goodness.

1238
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know what. I got a chance at won

1239
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl years ago to talk with him at an event,

1240
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: and he is great to talk to. I mean, he

1241
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: loves ball. He's a super smart guy. I mean he's

1242
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: just he's a fascinating study. He's a really interesting guy.

1243
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: We'll see what he can do today. Trying to avoid

1244
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: the pass rush. A bunch of pressures for Green Bay

1245
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: against Philly, but they never got home against Jalen Hurts.

1246
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: We'll see if Michael Parsons and company can reach some

1247
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: habit because otherwise, I mean you got Jamis tried to

1248
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: play spoiler in the larger NFC playoff picture later Rosh today,

1249
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: he's great. Go sell on Mike Carbon It's Fox Football Sunday,

1250
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Now, let's take a trip. I had

1251
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: a kickoff to the news desk and stand byer my partner,

1252
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: the I Watch a Flex Podcast you'll hear him later

1253
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: on today as part of End Zone Radio. What's on Dan,

1254
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1255
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 6: Fellas? The Giants Packers gaming guys talked about Adam Schefter

1256
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 6: of ESPN saying that the Giants, some within the organization

1257
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 6: have spoken to Jackson dart Of saying they want to

1258
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 6: cool it a little bit on the running at least

1259
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 6: be careful on when he's outside of the pocket and

1260
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 6: scrambling and running for yards. The report saying people both

1261
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 6: inside and outside the organization saying so. Jaden Daniels learned

1262
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 6: that the hard way as well a couple of weeks

1263
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 6: ago against the Seahawks. He's obviously inactive going through the

1264
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 6: national anthems right now in Spain. Is the Commanders and

1265
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 6: Dolphins about to get underway. Chargers of Jaguars playing you

1266
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 6: guys talked about it a bit earlier. Quinton Johnston in

1267
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 6: for the Chargers, but it's not expected to have to

1268
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 6: be a game to have Brian Thomas Junior for the Jaguars.

1269
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 6: He's expected to miss the contest. Titans home to the

1270
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 6: Texans today in an AFC South Showdown. Defensive tackle Jeffrey

1271
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 6: Simmons should be back for Tennessee and Drake London's going

1272
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 6: to be a go for the Falcons against the Panthers today.

1273
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 6: Patriots got that win on Thursday, but they lost defensive

1274
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 6: tackle Minton Williams. He was placed on injured reserve. Some

1275
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 6: golf already in the folks today from Dubai. Matt Fitzpatrick

1276
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 6: beat Rory McElroy in the first toll of the DP

1277
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 6: World Tour Championship in Dubai. So Fitzpatrick wins the tournament,

1278
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 6: but McElroy wins the tour as for the fourth straight

1279
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 6: year he's Europe's top player. Winning the race to Dubai guys,

1280
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Speaker 6: mac to.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I need to go buy donuts or

1282
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: something for the group to celebrate because it's a championship

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01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: Sunday now, yes it is, Yes, it is adding value

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Speaker 2: at Dan bayer on Fox is where you find him.

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01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: You'll hear him throughout the day. Thanks Dan, appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Greg Cosel, Mike Harmon with you here. It's the Fox

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Speaker 2: Football Sunday and the showing Dan Quinn. They were just

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01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: doing a fascinating thing of the transformation of the pitch

1289
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: into a football field that had me transfixed a little

1290
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: more elegant in the way they did that. Greg then

1291
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: changing up Wrigley Fields dimensions to be a football game

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Speaker 2: for Northwestern in Michigan.

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: Right game too, by the way, a good game.

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01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm salty that with five turnovers, couldn't salt it away

1295
01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: on that last second field goal.

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Speaker 3: But you know, okay, Michigan gotta win.

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Speaker 2: The long road begins with those first steps as we

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01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: go through it. If you missed any of today's show,

1299
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: you want to catch the podcast, search Fox Sports Radio

1300
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. Right after the show, today's

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: podcast gets posted. Follow it rated five stars, provide a review.

1302
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll

1303
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: find today's show posted right after we get off the air. Now,

1304
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: let's go to what is to me the last of

1305
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 2: the Marquee games. Doesn't mean we won't give a minute

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01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 2: or two to the remaining sally as we go, because

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: that's about what it'll deserve. But Detroit and Philly. Let's

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01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: start with those Detroit Lions.

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01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: There's the snap that Jered who wants to throw, looking

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01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: throwing middle.

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: Cart the five to their gift to the end zone.

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Speaker 5: Touchdown, Detroit Lions fourteen yards on the strike off to

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 5: get you can't cover that man one on one.

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 3: You just can't do it.

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01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: Three hundred and twenty passing yards as highest total since

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01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: Week two, seventy four percent completion rate on the year,

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: twenty touchdowns against three picks, and as we love it,

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01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: yards per attempt is at eight point two. Jamir Gibbs.

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01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: That been judicious. He's only got one game with more

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: than seventeen carries on the year, Greg, So it looks

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01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: like it's setting up for well, like the second half

1322
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: of a year ago where suddenly he becomes the bell

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: cow and they lean in a little heavier and they'll

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Speaker 2: need to do it against the Philadelphia Eagles today, coming

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: off that hard fought win against the Packers, narrow home

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Speaker 2: favorites of two and a half over under sitting at

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Speaker 2: forty six and a half. But for Jared Goff, yeah,

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01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell run around with a play sheet.

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, and there was a noticeable difference with Dan

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01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 3: Campbell calling the plays, and the difference I know two

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 3: things really stood out to me. One was the increase

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01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: in under center play action. Goff was eleven for sixteen

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: for one hundred and seventy two yards in what I

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01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 3: call conventional play action under center. It was the most

1335
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: under center play action dropbacks in any game this season,

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01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: so they went back to that. That's something that was

1337
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: a clear foundation under Ben Johnson when he was there.

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: And the other thing that that that bread I guess

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01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: was Thatmes James and Williams was more involved as a

1340
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 3: receiver in that game than he had been in recent weeks.

1341
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: So those are two things that stood out to me.

1342
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you played the golf radio call

1343
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: how old is Jared Goff? Because you know, he's put

1344
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 3: up pretty good numbers in his career and he's obviously

1345
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 3: not near the I wouldn't think he's not near the

1346
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: end of his career, and he's in a pretty good

1347
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 3: situation where you know he's going to continue to put

1348
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: up numbers. I can't believe he's that old at this point.

1349
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: He at this point yep, Yeah.

1350
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 3: I mean again, you know, he's in a good situation.

1351
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: You never know what tomorrow brings, but you have to

1352
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 3: believe he's playing five six more years. And I'm not again,

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting here saying, oh he's a Hall of Famer,

1354
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 3: That's not my point. But yeah, he's going to end

1355
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 3: up with a pretty darn good career assuming it stays

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 3: along this path.

1357
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: Remember all those years ago with that Jeff Fisher year

1358
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: high Yes, sixteen, Yeah, and a lot of hand ringing

1359
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: of what am I watching? I remember again, I guess

1360
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: San Francisco watching that live. I was Kaepernick on the

1361
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: other side and just wondering what I just committed five

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01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: hours of my day too.

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: Oh you know. And the other thing that you in

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 3: the piece, you played the touchdown to Jamir Gibbs. Now,

1365
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 3: Jamir Gibbs can be a really, really dominant receiver, and

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01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: there's no question that linebackers. That was Jordan McGee, a

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: linebacker for Washington trying to cover him. That's not going

1368
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: to happen. But the thing is is you go back

1369
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks now, the Eagles and Vic Fango,

1370
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: they are not the Vikings the way Brian Flora is plays.

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01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 3: So this is not an apples to Apple's comparison. But

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01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: in that game two weeks ago, when we talked about

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01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 3: this last week, Brian Flora has blitzed a ton through

1374
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: the a gap inside and the reason he did that

1375
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 3: was to make sure that Gibbs had to stay in

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01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 3: and pass protect. Fifteen of Gof's thirty two dropbacks in

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: that game, Gibbs had to stay in to pass protect. Now,

1378
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm Vic Fanjo is not exactly that guy obviously, and

1379
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: normally Vic does not like to blitz at a high percentage.

1380
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: But I'm just going to be really curious in some

1381
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: critical situations, you know, long yardage, third down, if Vic Fanjo,

1382
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: who's one of the smartest guys around, obviously, just tries

1383
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,879
Speaker 3: to create something with his pressure that dictates that Gibbs

1384
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 3: has to be part of the protection because he's so

1385
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 3: good coming out of the backfield. So I'm very curious

1386
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: about that in this game.

1387
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the other side real quick,

1388
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: on the offensive side, and let's hear from AJ Brown

1389
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 2: for a quick second here.

1390
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 3: It's not just solely about my situation.

1391
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 7: I mean, guys like obviously I want to win too,

1392
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 7: you know, and I think if we're we're really focusing

1393
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 7: on winning and doing our job like that, we can't

1394
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 7: just keep slapping the band aid over the defense doing

1395
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 7: their job and getting us out of trouble. At what

1396
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 7: point we're going to pick a box slag as an

1397
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 7: offense that we're saying we're so great, you know, And

1398
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 7: that's where I'm getting it. It's not about we're not

1399
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 7: winning or I don't care winning all I care about

1400
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 7: his step. No, it's been week got the week. Sometimes

1401
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 7: we're not contributing, we're not.

1402
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: Doing our job on offense.

1403
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 7: So you can't keep slapping a band aid over there

1404
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 7: and you strike the win later late in the year

1405
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 7: and you think you're gonna go to it in and

1406
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 7: the year. It's not gonna Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Well,

1407
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 7: last show what it was, Thank you for the ring.

1408
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: But it's a new season. There you go. He's got

1409
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: as many games with fewer than fifteen receiving yards as

1410
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: he does over forty three. Uh, try to figure out

1411
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 2: on tape they say they went rogue on that final call.

1412
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: Uh taking that shot down field that hit the defender

1413
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: in the back.

1414
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: Now, gig.

1415
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: But you know, the offense again fits and starts all year.

1416
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 3: It was one of the strangest offensive performances I've seen

1417
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 3: against the Packers. And this is what I'm about to

1418
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 3: say is not a knock on Jalen Hurts at all,

1419
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: But it seemed as if the game was being played

1420
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: to minimize hurts his factor in the game. Now, again,

1421
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: people are gonna take that as a rip on the

1422
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 3: on the play calling, and but it just you have

1423
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 3: to think beyond that. Why would they do that? I mean,

1424
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,719
Speaker 3: there was a play on the first third quarter possession,

1425
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: the game was scoreless, Mike, Okay, it was third and

1426
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 3: twelve from the plus twenty five yard line going in. Okay,

1427
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 3: third and twelve plus twenty five, scoreless game, they handed

1428
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 3: the ball to Shipley. That's a give up call in

1429
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 3: a scoring situation. In a scoreless game, why wouldn't you

1430
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: want Hurtz to drop back, not only to throw it potentially,

1431
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 3: but you know that how many times has he made

1432
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: third down scrambles that break the back of a defense.

1433
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 3: So I was just surprised, fascinated. I certainly don't have

1434
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 3: the answer to why this. They did that, but they

1435
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: played that game as if they were playing with the

1436
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback in his first start. And it's just it

1437
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 3: was hard to understand watching the tape.

1438
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: Curious, certainly a big spot here today matchup against Detroit

1439
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: Philly taking a lot of the oxygen and certainly aj

1440
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: Brown the comment we played was about as well as

1441
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: you can put things without questions. That's are great, but

1442
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, in the end, I want to be involved

1443
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: and do my part, and as an offense, we're not

1444
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: getting it done. We've talked a little bit about Saquon

1445
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: Barkley over the course of the year as.

1446
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: Well, and Mike, that's the bottom line point. I mean, people, look,

1447
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: I'm in the Philly area, so obviously you're getting a

1448
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 3: lot of we hate aj Brown, he's selfish, But the

1449
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: bottom line point that he's making is that this offense

1450
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: has not been very good. And the Eagles are a

1451
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: very odd team right now. Mike. They're seven and two,

1452
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 3: they have the best record in the conference, they're Super

1453
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: Bowl champions. Okay, but you could say this year they're

1454
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 3: seven and two, but they've not run the ball well

1455
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 3: and they've not thrown the ball well. And I think

1456
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: pretty much anybody who watches tape and studies the Eagles

1457
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 3: would say that both those things are true. Yet they're

1458
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: seven and two.

1459
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: It's a very odd thing about the way this game works.

1460
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: As my petter Jason Smith during the week said, they

1461
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: bathe in dysfunction. And I'm thinking about making a perfume

1462
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: line and a line of soaps, Greg called dysfunction for many.

1463
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: Well, you gotta give Nick Sirianni a ton of cratch.

1464
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I mean, it's his record since he's

1465
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: been the head coach is phenomenal. The team wins, which

1466
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 3: is always to getting back to the soap analogy, which

1467
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 3: is always the deodorant, as it were, when you win.

1468
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 3: But it's been a very strange and look, I studied

1469
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: Eagles in great detail and their past game is somewhat limited. Again,

1470
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: people can decide why that is. Hurts, of all the

1471
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: quarterbacks who have started every game, has the fewest pass

1472
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 3: attempts on throws between the numbers that travel ten to

1473
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 3: twenty eight yards from the line of scrimmage. And he

1474
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: does not see the middle of the field with clarity.

1475
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 3: That's not been his game even when he's at his best.

1476
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: But he's a super Bowl champion. He's been in two

1477
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: of the last three Super Bowls. You can easily argue

1478
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 3: we have played mahomes in both of those games, so

1479
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: it's a very odd situation.

1480
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: Well, we'll grab some popcorn for that one. That's the

1481
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: last of the big games. We got three to do

1482
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 2: a quick whip around with. As we continue. He's great.

1483
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: Co Sell on Mike Carbon and this is Fox Football

1484
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in final throws

1485
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: for us here Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday by Carbon,

1486
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: Greg co Sell with you. Miami up three to nothing

1487
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: on Washington well middle of the first quarter, Washington on

1488
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: the move now at the Dolphins thirty five. We'll keep

1489
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: you a prize as that rolls on here Fox Sports Radio.

1490
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: We had three more games left on the slate, Greg,

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Speaker 2: that we haven't covered in depth. We did a good

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Speaker 2: job on all the heavy hitters. The podcast will go up. Breann.

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Speaker 2: I'll have that Thank you, Brianna in advance so you

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Speaker 2: can check that out at your leisure. But we got

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Speaker 2: Carolina versus Atlanta. Michael Pennix kind of stepped in it

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Speaker 2: at the podium earlier in the week to say the

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Speaker 2: least fifty eight percent for the year, nine touchdowns, three picks.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much everything goes to Drake London or Bejon Robinson.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about him a lot, only one game with

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Speaker 2: more than twenty carries on the year. Last time they met,

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Speaker 2: they lost thirty to nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that whole Bjon Robinson thing still has me very

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Speaker 3: very surprised. I mean, to me, Bjohn Robinson, I've said

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Speaker 3: this before. I think just in terms of his overall trades,

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Speaker 3: he's the best back in the league. He's not deployed

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Speaker 3: that way in Atlanta's offense. To me, if you're trying

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Speaker 3: to stabilize your offense, that's the starting point. You rarely

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Speaker 3: see teams stabilize an offense by throwing the ball. They

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Speaker 3: stabilize it by running the ball, and I think that

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Speaker 3: it needs to go through Bjhon Robinson.

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Speaker 2: We got Houston, Tennessee. Any notes you want to make

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Speaker 2: on that one or just you want to walk punt.

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Speaker 3: No, No, Houston's defense is a fun watch every week.

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Speaker 3: They unit in the game very good, yep. I mean

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Speaker 3: those two edge players are outstanding. I really like there's

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Speaker 3: an overlooked underrated linebacker in my view name EJ. Speed,

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Speaker 3: who's been playing really well for them. They have two

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Speaker 3: really good corners and I think Kaln Bullock is one

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: of the best pure post safeties in the league. And

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Speaker 3: they play a lot of single high coverage. So their

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Speaker 3: defense is a fun watch every week.

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Speaker 2: Davis Mill's certainly taken advantage of Nico Collins last two

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Speaker 2: weeks twenty six targets for him, So for fantasy purposes,

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Speaker 2: all I promise you his volume. So we'll get some

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Speaker 2: more of him and Dalton Schultz a little bit later today,

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Speaker 2: some more woody marks. Let's go to the last game

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Speaker 2: on the slate, highly entertaining the first time out, Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco against Aaron Rodgers. Rogers had his best game of

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Speaker 2: the year two forty nine and four in that one.

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Speaker 2: Flacco that was his first game after becoming a Bengal,

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Speaker 2: and he's certainly taken advantage of it with some big

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Speaker 2: stat lines. For Pittsburgh, just still so many questions. Third

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Speaker 2: worst running game in the league and for Rogers six

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Speaker 2: point one yards per attempt or worse the last three

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Speaker 2: really not being able to take advantage of what dk

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Speaker 2: Mettcalf once was.

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Speaker 3: It's just the exactly what you don't want in an offense.

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Speaker 3: No run game and a condensed pass game, so you

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Speaker 3: get no big plays and it's very hard to move

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Speaker 3: the ball in the NFL like that. Although we've seen

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Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks have big games against the Bengals

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Speaker 3: defense unfortunately, but Flacco, he's been remarkable. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: feel like Joe Flacco when he's seventy years old, is

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Speaker 3: going to be able to throw the ball like this, Mike,

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Speaker 3: Don't you think it just looks like it's effortless.

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Speaker 2: And I'm still quarterbacking because that means I'll get to

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Speaker 2: cover it all the way through right, right right, and

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Speaker 2: I'll keep feeling young because we got a seventy year

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Speaker 2: old out there.

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Speaker 3: But the Steelers' defense has picked it up the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks. They played better. The edge players Watt

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Speaker 3: and Highsmith are really difficult to deal with. Some of

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Speaker 3: their interior guys Benton has started to play better. Their

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Speaker 3: defense has started to play the way we expected them

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Speaker 3: to play right from the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 2: Be curious to see what Cincinnati they've gotten. Chase Brown

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Speaker 2: on track three straight hunters, Yeah, totally yard games, Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase fifty targets from Joe Flacco the last three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Joe's gonna throw it. Now, Joe's gonna throw it.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Ice up. Yeah, I want a cast of

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Speaker 2: that arm from my wall side. He's great. Co Sell,

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Speaker 2: a great Cossell check out all his work NFL Matchup

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Speaker 2: Show and later with Colin Coward. Now it's time for

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Speaker 2: countdown to kickoff, presented by bat MGM