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Speaker 1: All Right, we have a lot going on today. We

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Speaker 1: have the President coming up with a United States Mexico

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Speaker 1: trade deal terminating NAFTA. We have the details, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you don't negotiate better deals, you can't get better deals.

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Speaker 1: If you don't say to our partners, our allies in

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Speaker 1: Europe that we want a better trade deal, one with reciprocity,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I lived my life in a state

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Speaker 1: of negotiation. So does the president if you don't say

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Speaker 1: in a forceful way that you've been treating the United

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Speaker 1: States unfairly. Now there's a new sheriff in town. Now

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Speaker 1: we want a better deal. How what do you think

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Speaker 1: They're just gonna wake up in the morning and said,

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Speaker 1: to leave it the way. It is, just like NATO

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Speaker 1: the terminates the existing deal as it relates to NAFTA

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Speaker 1: terminating the existing deal going into this deal. He said,

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Speaker 1: He said, we're starting negotiations with Canada pretty much immediately.

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Speaker 1: somebody at some point, when do we start looking out for,

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Speaker 1: You know, deals that put high tariffs on specific industries

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Speaker 1: like some type of mind control marketing technique. You can't

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Speaker 1: think anyone of us can ever imagine. And for that,

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Speaker 1: the American people are always in Senator McCain's debt or

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Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers go out to his family, and I just,

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Speaker 1: you know, to me, it's like, at a moment like this,

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Speaker 1: you just thanked them for the good in their lives,

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Speaker 1: even the forget that you know, we had political disagreements.

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Speaker 1: where we disagreed, and we'd have passionate debates over the

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Speaker 1: I never, never was personal for me, even when he said,

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Speaker 1: it was during the time of the health care vote,

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Speaker 1: and he said, to hell with these people on cable

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Speaker 1: and talk radio, which is quintessential John McKain. And I

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Speaker 1: admire him for it. He's being honest, you know, just

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Speaker 1: like he didn't like President Trump, President Trump doesn't like him.

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Speaker 1: People don't have to like each other in this life. No,

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Speaker 1: there's no law that says you've got to like everybody.

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Speaker 1: You don't anyway, I think, um, he did a lot

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Speaker 1: much credit for that. I thought Megan McCain's statement on

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Speaker 1: our father's passing was particularly beautiful thing for a daughter

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Speaker 1: to a father. And UM, I guess it's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: decided that he's got not gonna be buried at Arlington

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Speaker 1: but at Annapolis. UM. Anyway, it's a tough time for

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Speaker 1: his family. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all

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Speaker 1: of them. The FBI suspected agents and FBI agents suspected

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Speaker 1: that hillary Is deleted emails were on Anthony Weiner's laptop.

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Speaker 1: You know, disgrace that FBI Director James Comey he closed

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Speaker 1: the investigation into the Clinton emails found on Anthony Weiner's

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Speaker 1: Paul Sperry at Real Clear Investigations, and Comey's decision to

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Speaker 1: shortcut the Weener laptop investigation came despite the FBI suspicion

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Speaker 1: Comey's agents, one of whom was Peter Struck, examined only

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Speaker 1: three thousand of the six nine thousand emails found on

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Speaker 1: Weenier's laptop, which is less than one half of one

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Speaker 1: percent of the total number of Hillary emails that were

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Speaker 1: down to despite that fact, in the three thousand emails

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Speaker 1: that the FBI had examined, they found more classified emails

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Speaker 1: than they had during the FBI's entire year long Hillary

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Speaker 1: investigation that comey closed in July. You know, it's getting

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Speaker 1: you know, all of this keeps coming out. And the

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Speaker 1: question is when I know it doesn't have to deal

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Speaker 1: with taxis or or tax returns or loan applications, but

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Speaker 1: this is you know about national security, and you know investigators,

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Speaker 1: you know, managed over the course of one week to

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Speaker 1: read the hundreds of thousands of emails. Never never made

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Speaker 1: any sense and call me later told Congress that thanks

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Speaker 1: to the wizardry of our technology, the FBI was able

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Speaker 1: to eliminate the vast majority of messages and duplicates of

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Speaker 1: emails they'd previously seen. In fact, a technical glitch prevented

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Speaker 1: FBI technicians from accurately comparing the new emails. We now

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Speaker 1: find out only three thousand of the nearly seven hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand emails were directly reviewed for classified incriminating information. One

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Speaker 1: career FBI special agent involved in the case complained to

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Speaker 1: New York colleagues that officials in Washington were trying to

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Speaker 1: bury the treasure trove of evidence, which he believed contained

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Speaker 1: the full archive of Clinton emails, including those that she deleted,

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Speaker 1: was reviewed in the original year long case that Comy

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Speaker 1: closed in July. It's unbelievable. By the way, you have

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Speaker 1: a pro democratic firm now admitting that Trump's approval rating

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Speaker 1: is remarkably stable despite quote Russia Gate bombshells about taxes

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Speaker 1: and taxi cabs and loan applications. Anyway, that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: interesting sign. Lannie Davis now is in full retreat on

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Speaker 1: allegations that sparked democrats impeachment fever last week. Remember the

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Speaker 1: media last full blown over the top, you know, all

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Speaker 1: impeachment all the time, sparked literally by Michael Cohen's plea

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Speaker 1: deal and his attorney Lannie Davis. Turns out Landing wasn't

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Speaker 1: exactly being truthful and honest the last few days, and

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Speaker 1: he's been out admitting that he made the whole thing up.

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Speaker 1: If Democrats aren't angry about this, you should be. And

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Speaker 1: you know why, for example, would anyone say, as a lawyer, oh,

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Speaker 1: my client would never accept the pardon. Well, obviously he's

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Speaker 1: not facing five years in jail. I mean, you know, viewers,

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Speaker 1: I'd beg Obama for five year of her pardon if

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Speaker 1: I had to good grief. That just makes no sense anyway.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Post reports Sunday that Davis, in an interview,

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Speaker 1: says he's no longer certain about claims that he made

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Speaker 1: two reporters on background and on the record in recent

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Speaker 1: weeks about what khne knew about Trump's awareness of Russian efforts,

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Speaker 1: and he said he couldn't confirm media reports that Cohen

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Speaker 1: is prepared to tell the Special Council that Trump had

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Speaker 1: advanced knowledge of the Trump Tower meeting. That was the

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Speaker 1: whole you know, insanity of impeachment all last week. See

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Speaker 1: Ann reported in July that Cohene claimed to have witnessed

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Speaker 1: Trump appearing approving the meeting at from Tower. Well the

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Speaker 1: day after CNN's report, The Washington Post, using anonymous sources,

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Speaker 1: now admit that it was Lannie Davis the pedal, the

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Speaker 1: same story that con had told the associates he had

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Speaker 1: witnessed an exchange with Trump Jr. Telling his father about

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Speaker 1: that meeting. I should be more clear, he says, including

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Speaker 1: with you, that I could not independently confirm what had happened.

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Speaker 1: I regret my error, kind of a big error. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like all we heard last week. There's another

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Speaker 1: I'll get into this later, but there's a a a

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Speaker 1: d C. Judge is about to render a decision on

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Speaker 1: a decade's old criminal case, and the decision might end

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Speaker 1: up blowing Robert Mueller's investigation out of the water. We're

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Speaker 1: watching that closely for you. Will get into more details

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Speaker 1: as we have time. All right, as we continue eight

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Speaker 1: hundred nine for one, Shawn, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program. Sarah Carter and Sean Bigley joined

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Speaker 1: us next. As we have an investigative report from Sarah,

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Speaker 1: then this is gonna be It's a little complicated, but

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Speaker 1: it's really important and necessary and interesting. You gotta understand

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Speaker 1: here because Bigley represents Adam Lovinger, who lost his security

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Speaker 1: clearance after Stephan Helper complained about him. Well, now we

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Speaker 1: have apparently they've gotten internal documents and all they show

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Speaker 1: is this guy Helper was doing the bidding of the

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Speaker 1: deep state, and they've got the evidence to prove it.

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Speaker 1: So sit tight, buckle up. Will continue to do news

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Speaker 1: that you won't get from the mainstream media. Ever, as

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Speaker 1: they always talk about impeaching Trump seven hating Trump. An

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Speaker 1: election in seventy one days, your vote is gonna matter

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Speaker 1: more than ever. We'll continue an hour to Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Right down our toll free telephone number. You want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program, It's eight D nine

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Speaker 1: for one, Shawn, if you want to join us. UM.

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Speaker 1: There is an investigation by our good friends Sarah Carter

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Speaker 1: and we've linked it to Hannity dot com SHOs our website,

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Speaker 1: Sarah A. Carter dot com, but revealing that the documents

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Speaker 1: and information. Remember this this issue we brought up last

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Speaker 1: week about Adam Lovinger, and it's a guy that, oh,

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Speaker 1: he lost his security clearance after Stephan Helper complained about him. UM. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: so long story short, there are new documents and information

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Speaker 1: that she has been able to obtain, raising really troubling

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Speaker 1: questions about Stefan Helper, who was believed to have worked

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Speaker 1: with the c i A and and part of the

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Speaker 1: matrix of players in the bureaus Crossfire hurricane investigation into

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign, and Helper who assisted the FBI and

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Speaker 1: the Russia investigation, appears to have significant ties, we're finding

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Speaker 1: directly to Vladimir Putin. Now, when Mr Lovinger raised concerns

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Speaker 1: he did so with without any political designs whatsoever or

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Speaker 1: any knowledge of Mr helper spying activities. And Seawan Bigley

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Speaker 1: is a partner specializing in federal security clearance defense representing

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Speaker 1: Adam Lovinger in this article that Sarah has now just released.

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Speaker 1: Mr Lovinger simply did with all Americans should expect of

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Speaker 1: our civil servants. He reported violations of the law and

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Speaker 1: a gross waste of public funds to his superiors. And

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Speaker 1: yet we were puzzled to, you know, find the ferocity

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, was the reason for the sustained assault on

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Speaker 1: Mr Lovinger, and that certainly may have played a role,

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Speaker 1: but it was more than the Clinton connected contexts, suspected Bigley,

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Speaker 1: who added Mr Lovinger unwittingly shined a spotlight on the

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Speaker 1: deep state secret weapon, which was Stephan Helper who threatened

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Speaker 1: to explos is the truth about Trump Russia collusion narrative

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Speaker 1: than being plotted? That it was all a set up?

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Speaker 1: All right? Joining us now with more We're going to

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Speaker 1: fill in the blanks in the details to all of this.

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter, investigative reporter and Fox News contributor. Sean Bigley

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Speaker 1: is with us and he specializes in federal security clearance

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Speaker 1: defense representing Adam Levinger. Thank you both for being with us. Look,

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Speaker 1: it gets a little more complicated. I'm just giving some

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Speaker 1: of the highlights. Sarah, why don't you, why don't you

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Speaker 1: really break this down, but very slowly because it gets

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Speaker 1: a little complicated. So this is how this plays out,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure Sean Bigley will be able to explain

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Speaker 1: a lot of his client, uh, the circumstances that surrounded

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Speaker 1: his client, Adam Levinger, who is a former Defense Department analyst. Um,

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Speaker 1: he became a whistleblower. He basically internally complained about some

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Speaker 1: that it was this professor, this Cambridge guy, who was

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Speaker 1: getting this exorbit an amount of money for basically writing

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Speaker 1: some analysis for the Defense, the Defense Department on foreign

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Speaker 1: policy issues. UM. So he complains about that. He complains

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Speaker 1: should say it was roughly a million dollars in taxpayer

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Speaker 1: reports basically that he himself did not fully right. He

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Speaker 1: contracted out foreign officials and others. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: George Papadopolis. He got wrapped up in Stephan Helpers mess

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Speaker 1: So over one million dollars received for this. This is

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Speaker 1: very concerning because it doesn't match other contracts. People do

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Speaker 1: it would be like getting paid two thousand dollars a page,

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Speaker 1: two thousand dollars a page for writing some of which

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Speaker 1: he didn't even do himself. But we also know that

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Speaker 1: Helper assisted the FBI in the Russian investigation, and he

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Speaker 1: has ties to the Russian government and you believe Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin himself, yes, absolutely, to people who directly connected with

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Speaker 1: to obtain and this is you know, through various documentation

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Speaker 1: his course syllabi for the Cambridge UH Intelligence Seminar that

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Speaker 1: he was holding UH and he held those seminars from

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Speaker 1: syllabi that we have shows that he brought to teach

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Speaker 1: this is Trubnikov. Trutnikov is was the top of the

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Speaker 1: Russia's intelligence service from through two thousand. He was appointed

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Speaker 1: first Deputy Foreign Minister from two thousand to two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four, and in two thousand and four he was

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Speaker 1: appointed by President Putin as to the Ambassador of Russia.

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Speaker 1: But let's just go back one step before we go

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Speaker 1: any further. At the point in time when Adam Levinger

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Speaker 1: was discovering these contracts, he had no clue as to

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Speaker 1: who Steven Stefan Helper was. He had no idea really

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Speaker 1: up until recently, and you can talk to Sean Bigley

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Speaker 1: about this um that step On Helper was even involved

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Speaker 1: in this Russia collusion until it came out into the news.

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Speaker 1: They had no idea that he was being utilized by

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Speaker 1: the FBI to basically gather information on Carter Page and

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Speaker 1: George Papadopolis. And ironically, here's step On Helper trying to

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Speaker 1: accused Carter Page or trying to accuse George Papadopolis of

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Speaker 1: having these connections with Russia, when it's Stefan Helper himself

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Speaker 1: who has the most connection with Russia? All right, let

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Speaker 1: me let me bring in Lovinger's attorney, Shawn Bigley, who's

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Speaker 1: with us, And why don't I let you just fill

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Speaker 1: in some of the gaps here. So he just happened

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Speaker 1: upon this information as it relates to Helper, and then

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Speaker 1: he's a whistleblower. He's trying to explot why is this

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Speaker 1: guy getting two thousand dollars a page and up to

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Speaker 1: a million dollars in payments? And where are these connections

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Speaker 1: to Russia? How do you tie this all together? Sure,

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Speaker 1: so it's a really fascinating story. And I think you

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Speaker 1: know what Sarah emphasized as far as the timeliness and

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Speaker 1: or the timeline of this with uh Mr Lovinger and

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Speaker 1: his whistle blower disclosures is really really important because I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people at the left are going

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Speaker 1: to look at this and say, oh, this is you know,

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Speaker 1: a political story. It's not. This was a guy who

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Speaker 1: was completely uh an a political actor, Mr Lovinger. He

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Speaker 1: was a civil servant. He was doing his job and

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Speaker 1: he uncovered this stuff. And so for a very long time,

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Speaker 1: for about a year when we were fighting this case

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Speaker 1: up until the news broke about Mr Helper earlier this summer,

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Speaker 1: we were really struggling to figure out why the Defense

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Speaker 1: Department was going after him was such a vengeance, And

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Speaker 1: all we could assume, is Sarah referenced, was the fact

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Speaker 1: that this other contractor that he had raised questions about

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Speaker 1: has very close ties to the Clinton family. As we

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Speaker 1: know from emails uncovered through Judicial Watch, this woman is

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Speaker 1: actually a very close confidante of Hillary Clinton, and so

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Speaker 1: we assumed that that was the reason for the animosity.

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Speaker 1: While we now know that there's a lot more to

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Speaker 1: the story and the pieces of the puzzle are starting

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Speaker 1: to sort of come together, but you know, tie them

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Speaker 1: together to us, what do you think it is that happened?

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Speaker 1: So what we think happened in hindsight is Mr Helper

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Speaker 1: was essentially being used by the Department of Defense or

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Speaker 1: by the by the government, by the FBI UH as

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Speaker 1: sort of an off the book's manager of aspiring, if

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Speaker 1: you will. In essence, he was being paid these extraordin

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Speaker 1: or the sums of money to put together what Mr

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Speaker 1: Lovinger and others have termed college level research projects, many

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Speaker 1: of which were farmed out to other academics to prepare

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Speaker 1: UH and UH turning these things in for you know,

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Speaker 1: major pay days half a million dollars, four hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: things like that. And so when you look at, you know,

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Speaker 1: what he was actually doing versus what he was being

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Speaker 1: paid for on paper, there is a tremendous UH disconnect.

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Speaker 1: And simultaneously, he was being sent out to engage with

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Speaker 1: foreign government officials to conduct what Mr Lovinger felt was

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Speaker 1: foreign relations, which is something he specifically complained about. That

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Speaker 1: is not a a task that is legally assignable to contractors.

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Speaker 1: And so we believe that Mr Halper was using these

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Speaker 1: funds that he was given a taxpayer funds by the

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Speaker 1: Department of Defense to essentially globe trot and develop contacts

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Speaker 1: that he could then pump for information or use as

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Speaker 1: far as the influence of peddling campaigns, and that was

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Speaker 1: the true purpose of the expenditures. Incredible, it's incredible, shine,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's illegal to do that, by the way,

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Speaker 1: to use those types of contractors for foreign I mean, now,

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Speaker 1: whether or not the government had a black ops type

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Speaker 1: of UH situation with Helper is a whole other story,

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Speaker 1: and that would raise questions as to what was really

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Speaker 1: going on here. And I think only Congress can, through

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Speaker 1: through a hearing, can find out the truth. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's quite stunning because ironically, Helper himself, according to a

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Speaker 1: number of reports, according to a number of reports. Now

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Speaker 1: remember I have not been able to speak to Helper yet,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't returned my phone calls or my emails. But

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Speaker 1: his his seminar was actually also being funded by Russians,

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Speaker 1: Russians connected Oligards connected directly to Putin. I mean some

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Speaker 1: of that. It wasn't all of the funding, but a

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Speaker 1: good sum of money was coming from Russia to help

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Speaker 1: fund these seminars. And remember in two thousand sixteen, Helper

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Speaker 1: basically said, yeah, well I decided to shut down the

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Speaker 1: seminar because I think the Russians are getting too close. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Russians were getting close because apparently Helper himself was

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Speaker 1: inviting them. He was basic intelligence and was being paid.

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Speaker 1: How was he bringing them in and trying to get

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Speaker 1: them close to the the Trump campaign at the time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think for for for Helper, the he was being utilized, right,

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Speaker 1: So he was actually being utilized by the FBI then

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Speaker 1: to connect with both Carter Page and he met Carter

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Speaker 1: Page after carter Page came back from Moscow Um, carter

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Speaker 1: Page attended one of his seminars and just so happens

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Speaker 1: that Helper becomes very friendly with carter Page, starts reaching

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Speaker 1: out to carter Page, talks to him about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the similar issues about Russia, about intelligence, and carter Page

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Speaker 1: didn't speak at that seminar. He was just invited as

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Speaker 1: a part of the minar, but became very close with Helper.

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Speaker 1: And at that time it was when Helper began asking

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Speaker 1: him a lot of questions, asking him about his relationship

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Speaker 1: with the Russians, trying to gather information on him. Was

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Speaker 1: the same thing that Halper did to George Papadopolis, when

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Speaker 1: Papidopolis actually became suspicious of Helper and how intense he

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Speaker 1: was when he started asking him questions, So what did

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Speaker 1: the what do you have to do with the Russians?

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Speaker 1: What are you getting from them? And Papadopolis is basically

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Speaker 1: I was told by his wife Simona, no, you have

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with them. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. And that's when I

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Speaker 1: think at that point when Papadopolis started to become concerned

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Speaker 1: about him, is there is there any Shawn Bigley evidence

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Speaker 1: to back up and corroborate on savory contacts, connections and

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Speaker 1: this nefarious next as you're describing, here's what we have, Sean,

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Speaker 1: and I think when you look at the totality of

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Speaker 1: the picture, it is truly stunning. We have evidence that, uh.

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Speaker 1: And just to back up for a second, obviously we

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Speaker 1: have the Trump Russia collusion quote unquote narrative that has

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Speaker 1: been put out there for now well over a year.

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Speaker 1: And the entire genesis of that essentially was Mr Halper

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Speaker 1: going to the FBI apparently and saying I've witnessed all

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Speaker 1: these concerning interactions between Trump people and Russians, there's something afoot,

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Speaker 1: and then the FBI gets involved. Well, what we now

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Speaker 1: know is it was a setup. Essentially. Mr Halper, who

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Speaker 1: was organizing these seminars, invited the Trump people into the

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Speaker 1: lions Den. He invited them in knowing that his co

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Speaker 1: convener of these seminars is a noted Putin apologist who

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Speaker 1: spent a decade in the State Academy in Moscow. His

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Speaker 1: co teacher or co lead of this seminar was the

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Speaker 1: former head of Russian intelligence and according to the British Press.

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Speaker 1: A good chunk of his seminars were funded by a

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Speaker 1: company that apparently British intelligence. I gotta go to a break.

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Speaker 1: But you have a paper trail that confirms all of this, Yes,

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Speaker 1: all of it, all of it? All right, stay right there.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back and ask about that when we get back. Right,

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Speaker 1: final moments, as we continue with Sarah Carter and Sean Bigley,

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Speaker 1: who is representing Adam Lovinger. Alright, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: the paper trail specifically, and I know Sarah you have

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of the documents, and I know Sean

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of the documents. What will it

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Speaker 1: show and where will this end? So ultimately, Sean, we

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Speaker 1: believe that this is the complete and utter undermining of

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Speaker 1: this whole Russian Trump collusion narrative because it completely falls

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Speaker 1: apart essentially. Um as I was seeing earlier, we have

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Speaker 1: documentary evidence that Mr Helper invited the Trump officials into

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Speaker 1: his seminars knowing full well that the Russians were present,

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Speaker 1: the Russians were involved, and then later claimed that he

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Speaker 1: was shutting down the seminars because the Russians were infiltrating them. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't add up. And when you look at the

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Speaker 1: context and the totality of the documentation, it becomes very

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Speaker 1: very clear what happened as far he set it up

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Speaker 1: and then acted all surprised when it started to exposed. Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Sarah last word, well, yeah, exactly. You can't act like

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Speaker 1: the Russians were infiltrating your seminar when you sent them

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Speaker 1: out invitations. And another thing that we don't want to

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Speaker 1: forget about Helper was Helper was also the one that

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Speaker 1: reported to the FBI that Lieutenant General Michael Flynn may

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Speaker 1: have had indiscreet contact or strange contacts with the Russian

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Speaker 1: woman who, by the way, was at his seminar at

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Speaker 1: a dinner hosted by Helper and Sir Richard dear Love,

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Speaker 1: the head of m I six, the former head of

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Speaker 1: m I six at the time, And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: these rumors spill out all across the disinformation campaign across

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Speaker 1: the media against General Michael. All right, thank you both

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Speaker 1: for being one of us. We appreciate it. One sean

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Speaker 1: full free telephone number when we come back. The President

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Speaker 1: gets tough again with a little rocketman in North Korea.

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Speaker 1: Tread ahead, North Korea, best not make any more threats

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Speaker 1: to the United States, they will be met with. Five

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00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: are fury and frankly, power, the likes of which this

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Speaker 1: world has never seen before. The United States has great

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Speaker 1: strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend

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Speaker 1: itself for its allies, we will have no choice but

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Speaker 1: to totally destroy North Korea. Frankly, the people that were

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Speaker 1: questioning that statement wasn't too tough. Maybe it wasn't tough enough.

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Speaker 1: They've been doing this to our country for a long time,

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Speaker 1: for many years, and it's about time that somebody stuck

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Speaker 1: up for the people of this country and for the

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Speaker 1: people of other countries. And what they've been getting away

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Speaker 1: with is a tragedy and it can't be allowed. If

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Speaker 1: anything happens to Guam's gonna be big, big trouble in

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Speaker 1: North Korea. He does anything with respect to Guam or

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Speaker 1: any place else that's an American territory or an American ally,

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Speaker 1: he will truly regret it, and he will regret it fast.

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Speaker 1: Rocket Man is on a suicide mission for himself and

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Speaker 1: for his regime. This shouldn't be handled now, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to handle it because we have to handle her cleaner.

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Speaker 1: Rocket Man, We We're gonna do it because we really

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Speaker 1: have no choice. Alright, twenty now till the top of

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Speaker 1: the our little rocket man fire and fury, and my

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Speaker 1: buttons bigger than yours, and mine actually works anyway. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We know that the President on Friday told Mike Pompeo

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Speaker 1: changed his plans a pre uh, a pre arranged trip

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Speaker 1: that he had with North Korean leaders because the President

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel that enough progress is being made for the

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Speaker 1: conversation to continue at this time. And we haven't had

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Speaker 1: any more rockets being fired over Japan. Guam's not being threatened,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world's not being threatened. Remains have

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Speaker 1: been sent back to the United States. Hostages have been freed,

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Speaker 1: but North Korean state media is accusing the US yesterday

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Speaker 1: and preparing for an invasion. At the same time, they're

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Speaker 1: pursuing a dialogue with the regime with a smile on

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Speaker 1: its face, joining US now. Colonel Oliver North, host of

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Speaker 1: war stories, how are you so good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be with you, brother. You know, piece

848
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Speaker 1: through strength works, and the bottom line is it's not

849
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Speaker 1: moving fast enough. We made a lot of progress, but um,

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Speaker 1: the progress that really matters is the nuclearization of the

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00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: entire peninsula. Well, and I think what we're seeing is

852
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: the hand once again of President g and his pollet

853
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: grow in not so much what's going on in North Korea,

854
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: but in Beijing. I think that the trade issue that

855
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: the president is properly addressed with China, and they know

856
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: that they're at a disadvantage in this both economically and politically. Uh,

857
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: they've been now twiddling us by telling Kim to go

858
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: slow and by subverting some of the sanctions that have

859
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: been put in place. Chinese are clearly helping to import

860
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: illegally by all reckoning petroleum reserves and the like and

861
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: coal into North Korea. And so what you've got is,

862
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: he said, situation where maximum leverage is necessary, as it

863
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: was right to tell Secretary of State Pompeo not to

864
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: go right now. And this is not a cancelation of

865
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: the of the entire initiative. But try this when you

866
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: when you see the response by the rest of the

867
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: so called mainstream media, and I'm talking about the other

868
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: networks of talking about the New York Times, it's kind

869
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: of like Trump got the wool pulled over his eyes.

870
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: If he hadn't gone, if he had not even started

871
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: this initiative, he'd have been blamed for not doing all

872
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: that was necessary to prevent the potential of the nuclear holocaust.

873
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: And of course now he's doing what has to be

874
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: done to make it work. Maximum pressure, economic pressure on

875
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: North Korea, and that requires that both Russia and China

876
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: cooperate in this thing, and they're not. But the world

877
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: is not used to a strong America, especially on foreign policy. Recently,

878
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: they're not well. And that's the point. I mean, for example,

879
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: we have these one sided trade deals with everybody, and

880
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: you're not going to say, pretty please, can we can

881
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: we readego trade deals and you had a better deal

882
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: for the country. I mean, when the President announced today

883
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: that he's terminating NAFTA, announcing a new trade agreement with Mexico,

884
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: that's good for Mexico and good for the US. And

885
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: we went over the specific details of it earlier, and uh,

886
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: that's good for the country. Same with our Western European allies.

887
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the idea that we pay, you know, seventy

888
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: one cents out of every dollar to protect NATO, and

889
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: that they then put massive tariffs on American products, and

890
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: the President is saying, how about no tariffs at all

891
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: for friends, and encouraged the Russians to build a pipe

892
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: plan for natural chants into Western Europe. I mean, look

893
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: at they got used to the complacency of the previous administration,

894
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: the blissful naivete of the Obama regime, and what they

895
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: got used to was good for them and bad for us.

896
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: We now have a a president who's going to stand up

897
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: for America. He's made it very clear since the day

898
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: before he got in office. He's still making it clear.

899
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: And despite all of the attacks and this president, what

900
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: the end result is, more Americans are at work, more

901
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Americans are getting increases in pay, more Americans have more

902
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: take home because the tax cuts and the economic advantages

903
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: to the United States of doing what he's doing on

904
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: trade and tariffs is absolutely the right thing. And unfortunately

905
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: there's nobody in our numery so called mainstream media, and

906
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: very few of our allies Israel is the exception, who

907
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: agree with what we're doing. Well, it's also every report,

908
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: every source that I have is we know that the

909
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: economy of China is in a significant decline. The same

910
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: would go for Iran, and frankly, if you want to

911
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: defeat the hostile regime of Russia and beat back Vladimir Putin.

912
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned that earlier. All we need is to figure

913
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: out the means by which we can get our natural

914
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: gas and our energy over to Western Europe and at

915
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: a lower cost than what Putin is offering it for,

916
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: and not only will create millions of American jobs, but

917
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: also it helps in their defense. It would be worth

918
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: more than whatever amount we're paying for for NATO defense now.

919
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely right. And again, the rest of the things I

920
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: find to be appalling is the willingness of our media

921
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: to always strike a pose that no matter what the

922
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: president does, it's the wrong thing. I'm just it's sickening.

923
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: It's to the point where many of us have just

924
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: turned away from reading that kind of stuff and watching it.

925
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: And thankfully we've got Fox News, We've got you, We've

926
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: got Rush, we got a handful of people. I'm good

927
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: for something, you know, colonel. And it's not like you,

928
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: not that I've done a whole lot in my life,

929
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: but I'm good at least I'm good for something. Well,

930
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: you got that telling the truth, Thank God you are.

931
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: That's why we call it Anniti's America. Buddy, Well, why

932
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: why are they trying. Look, I know they're saying, they're

933
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: not saying it, but we have a list of all

934
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: the investigations that they would love to do if the

935
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: Democrats get back power. But you know, look, we're seventy

936
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: one days away. Now, that is a short period of time,

937
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: and there's a lot at stake. Impeaching the president is

938
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: definitely on the table for them, endless investigations. They want

939
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: their crumbs back, they want open borders, they want to

940
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: keep Obamacare, and they want all of the abuse of

941
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: power scandals we've exposed to just go away because it

942
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: benefited them. Well, look, tens of millions of dollars being

943
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: expended by Bloomberg, by Styre, by sorrows, that whole crowd

944
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: out to do one thing, take control of the House

945
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: of Representatives and impeach the president. They don't you know,

946
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi says, Oh, don't, let's downplay that because it

947
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: scares the love and daylights out of people. But that's

948
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: clearly what the objective is here. And if that happens,

949
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: Katie bar the door on all kinds of things, to

950
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: include a stronger America. I mean, look at my whole

951
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: life has been spent trying to defend this country against

952
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: our foreign adversaries. Unfortunately, we've got a very powerful cabal

953
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: that's lined up against this president with the idea of

954
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: bringing him down. And I have no doubt that if

955
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: there's a significant gain in the House of Representatives, there

956
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: will be emotion to impeach. There will be a process

957
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: by which they go through to do that, because we

958
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: can't stop it anymore. And unfortunately that also means that

959
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: initiatives like denuclearization of a very dangerous regime in North

960
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: Korea will stop that. Well, at the very least, they

961
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: feel like they can paralyze the president for the two

962
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: years leading up to because I don't see. But the

963
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: thing is, you do need some you know, And I

964
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: think Muller's working on this. I think Muller's endgame is

965
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: to write a document, the Mueller Report, which will be

966
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: for the Democrats should they win in seventy one days.

967
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: It'll be a roadmap to impeaching Donald Trump. And that's

968
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: why this turnout is going to be so very important.

969
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: In seventy one Well, what's your feel, what's your gut?

970
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Tell you? I don't I don't have a handle on it. Yet.

971
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing that was pretty amazing is even

972
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: a Democratic pollster and polling firm, you know, admitted over

973
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: the weekend that despite you know, weeks and weeks worth

974
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: of so called bombshell developments and Robert Muller's quote investigation,

975
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: the president's approval rating remains quote remarkably stable. Well, and

976
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, I just remind everybody when I know, I've

977
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: been flying all over the country and what I'm looking

978
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: at is people who say to me, you know, I

979
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: don't like some of the things he's done, but he's

980
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: far better than the altar native. And that was so

981
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: misjudged in the last election. Remember, right up until dark

982
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: on on on election Day in st everybody said he

983
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: can't win. I got listen, I got the exit pulse.

984
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: It showed he didn't win a thing. It showed he

985
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: won nothing, you know, just like John Kerry was going

986
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: to be the next president of O four. The exit

987
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: pose showed the same thing then. So my hope is

988
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: that the posters that are doing the polling right now

989
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: have missed that again. And so seventy one days from

990
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: not my hope and my prayer is that the American

991
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: people give a vote. What do you think it is?

992
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: What do you think it is? Though? Obviously the economy

993
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: has turned around. Obviously he's keeping his promises. He's doing

994
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: everything he'd say that he do for the American people.

995
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Conservative judges, He's gotten rid of the bureaucracy, he's gotten

996
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: rid of endless regulation. We've gotten tax cuts, we're moving

997
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: towards energy independence. He's tough on Russia then Obama ever

998
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: dreamed of. And he's stand Iran in North Korea and

999
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. He's done the right things.

1000
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: And that's what my hope is. The American people are

1001
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: going to look at that over the next seventy days.

1002
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: On the seventy one day, they're gonna outpull lever that

1003
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: puts in office people who will support his administration in

1004
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: House of Representatives. I don't I think the Senate safe

1005
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: at least everything I see it. Yeah, it looks like it,

1006
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: But I don't take anything for granted. I'm not known either,

1007
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: do I? And You've got to remember if I knew

1008
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: some bunch about politics, you and I'd be having this

1009
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: conversation of my year Senate office. So well, how many votes,

1010
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: how many votes. Did you lose by It wasn't many many.

1011
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: It was a three way race and I lost by

1012
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: about two. Yeah, pretty close. The Republican Party didn't didn't

1013
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: stand up back to candidate. Well, yeah, well that's what happens,

1014
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, the reality of it better not happened this time,

1015
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: because people are gonna point the finger at those who

1016
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: undid this wonderful opportunity for a safer, sounder America. What

1017
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on John McCain. Well, look at John

1018
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: McCain was a war hero. John McCain was a younger

1019
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: for what five terms a congressman before that. There's no

1020
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: doubt he devoted himself to our country. And there's no

1021
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: doubt that John McCain very often did things that where

1022
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: I think incorrect or wrong. You know, his stand on

1023
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: some of those things that we talked about over the

1024
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: years that we've been at Fox together. I just, you know,

1025
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: for the life of me, can't figure out why why

1026
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: he came down the way he did. Unfortunately, John John

1027
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: McCain was was a very powerful figure in many ways

1028
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: in the U. S. Senate. And the reality of it

1029
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: is John Warner is no longer here, and let's hope

1030
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: that the governor appoints somebody after John's interred the Naval

1031
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: Academy Cemetery, that the governor appoints a good, solid Republican

1032
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: who's going to stand with the party and staying with

1033
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: the president. That's the best we can knowpe for Listen,

1034
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, I was very honest. I mean, we had

1035
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: massive political disagreements. I never regretted supported supporting him and

1036
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: oh eight and I got to know him and his

1037
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: family pretty well, and uh, there obviously it's hard to

1038
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: lose a father and husband. And yeah, he served with

1039
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: courageous you know. Is his story about Vietnam and five

1040
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: years pow. It's inspiring. Uh. And the fact is that

1041
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: he could have come home earlier than he did, but

1042
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: he chose to say with the rest of his comrades

1043
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: and come on and come home all together. Right, And

1044
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: I just can't help but admire that. After the definition

1045
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: of the word hero, that is a hero a person

1046
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: who puts himself at risk for the benefit of others.

1047
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: All right, You've always been such a person too, Colonel North,

1048
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Thanks for being with us,

1049
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: all right, safe home, appreciate your eight D nine one

1050
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: Sean as we can send you on eight hundred nine

1051
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: for one, Shawn, you want to be a part of

1052
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: the program. At the top of the next hour, Congressman

1053
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: Darryl Lisa Bruce Sore's appearance before Congress tomorrow coming up.

1054
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Donna is in Staten Island, Donna High. How are you glad?

1055
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: You called? Hi? Sean? How are you? I'm good? What's happening? Well,

1056
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: you know this whole thing with the Senator McCain and

1057
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: his you know, his chap thing. I'm not gonna bash him.

1058
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 1: I I don't like to do that to the jet,

1059
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to praise him either. And I

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Speaker 1: think that this whole thing of not allowing Trump to

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Speaker 1: come to the Obama's going a delivery eulogy that kind

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Speaker 1: of tells me all I need to know. Listen, that's

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: his choice. Um. You know, Lindsey Graham actually said something

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01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: to me recently. I don't think he said he actually

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Speaker 1: thinks he's very close with McCain. That you know, there

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01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: are some personality traits that are very similar. Um, John

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Speaker 1: McCain made his decision. He hates Trump. They didn't like

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Speaker 1: each other. You don't have to like everybody in this life,

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Speaker 1: in this world. UM, I do admire what John McCain

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Speaker 1: did for the service of his country. I disagreed with

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Speaker 1: John's politics. UM I don't care, to be honest with

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Speaker 1: you that when he came back to the Senate floor,

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Speaker 1: you know, he said, to hell with them talking about

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Speaker 1: talk radio hosts and cable TV hosts. Maybe I took

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Speaker 1: it personally and I shouldn't have, but um, it's neither

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: here nor there. You know, I like to look at

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: the good in somebody's life when they pass on, and

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: I just think talking about them in a bad way

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Speaker 1: is unseemly. I admire his heroism to his country, and

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Speaker 1: he had an amazing life of service. And you know,

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: to think that five years he had bones broken, was beaten,

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Speaker 1: and and didn't acquiesce and didn't capitulate to the enemy

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Speaker 1: at the time, I can't imagine how hard that would

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Speaker 1: be for any human being. And so I admire all

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Speaker 1: of that about him. And actually, you know, at times

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01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: we got along great and I think he was thankful

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Speaker 1: for the support that I showed him in his campaign

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight and going against Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: I don't regret one second of it um. I think

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Speaker 1: it was you know, to look, it wasn't gonna happen

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Speaker 1: that year. That's just the way it is. And you

1092
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: don't win them all sadly, uh And I pray for

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Speaker 1: his family today. They're they've got they're devastating and they're hurting.

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: They don't need any more pain from anybody on the outside,

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Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, And he has a right to

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Speaker 1: do his funeral anyway he wants. I want to make

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Speaker 1: a point of what what what Greg just said? Rod

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Speaker 1: Rosenstein won't tell us when he first learned that Nellie

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01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: Or was working for Fusion GPS. So I want to

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01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: know from Bruce Or when did he tell his colleagues

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Speaker 1: at the Department of Justice that, in violation of the

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Speaker 1: law that required him to disclose his wife's occupation and

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Speaker 1: her sources of income, he did not do that? And

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Speaker 1: so when did all the other people at the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice find this out? Because Rod Rosenstein, I've asked

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Speaker 1: him twice in open hearing and he will not give

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Speaker 1: an answer. I think there's a real smoking gun there.

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Speaker 1: I say it. I say it again. That whole situation,

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: it's a rigged witch hunt. It's a totally rigg deal.

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Speaker 1: They should be looking at the other side. They should

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01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: be looking at all the people that got fired by them,

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01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: all of the people that got fired. They should be

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01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: looking at Bruce or and his wife Nellie for dealing with,

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01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: by the way, indirectly Russians. They should be looking at Steal.

1115
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: They should be looking at all these FBI guys who

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01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: got fired and demoted. Uh, it's a really weird it's

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: it's not us. It is a rigged which hunt. I've

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01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: said it for a long time. I think Brassour is

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: a disgrace. I suspect I'll be taking it away very quickly.

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Speaker 1: I think that Brussour is a disgrace with his wife Nellie.

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Speaker 1: For him to be in the Justice Department and to

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Speaker 1: be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. That

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Speaker 1: is disqualifying for Mueller. And Mr Mueller has a lot

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Speaker 1: of conflicts also directly yourself. So you know that Mr

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Speaker 1: Mueller is highly conflicted. In fact, Tomy is like his

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Speaker 1: best friend. I could go into conflict after conflict, but

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01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: sadly Mr Muller is conflicted. But let him write his report.

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Speaker 1: We did nothing, there's no collusion. But if he was

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Speaker 1: doing an honest report, he'd write it on the other side,

1130
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: because when you look at criminality and you look at problems,

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: take a look at what they did, including colluding with

1132
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: the Russia, is the other side. It's kinda be so

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: frustrating to know that all of these misdeeds had taken place,

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01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: with all the evidence, with all of the people now

1135
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: fired or demoted. In the case of bruce Or twice, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he never did disclose where his wife got the income from.

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Speaker 1: We know that's Fusion GPS that used the funneled money

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Speaker 1: from Clinton and the d n C through Perkins Cooeie

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01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: the law firm uh to in fact build the dossier

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Speaker 1: using a foreign agent, and then even that foreign agent

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: doesn't stand by the dossier. But that doesn't stop people

1142
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: from using it to lie, to propagandize and spread disinformation

1143
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: of the American people to sway votes in the lead

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: up to an election, and nor did it stop them

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01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: as using it for a FISA warrant application, not just

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01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: the initial application, but three subsequent applications, and Rod Rosenstein

1147
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: himself signing off on the last one. Anyway, Bruce Or

1148
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: is going to be hearing in a closed door appearing

1149
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Speaker 1: in a closed door session with the House Government Reform

1150
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Speaker 1: Oversight Committee tomorrow, and here with a preview of it

1151
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: all is Congressman darryl Issa, Congressman, how are you so?

1152
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: And I'm doing great. I will tell you never, never

1153
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: in my six years of heading the Oversight Committee have

1154
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: I seen a more easy to follow series of wrongdoing

1155
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: that takes you from the Russians and Fusion, GPS and

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01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: Chris Christopher Steele and the fake dossier all the way

1157
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: to trying to defeat the president and then after the

1158
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: election this becoming part of the insurance policy that created

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Speaker 1: the environment in which the Special Prosecutor was produced by

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Speaker 1: a man Rob Rosenstein, who has is part of this

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Speaker 1: swamp that created this false narrative. The lines are so clear,

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Speaker 1: we simply have to get each of these individuals under oat. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It will be Bruce Or who have to answer for

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Speaker 1: things that Peter Struck, even Peter Struck admitted that Bruce

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Speaker 1: Or was in the well. The the irony of all

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: of this is now we have more information, as we

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01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: now understand that there's some seventy at least contacts both

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01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: before and after the election between Bruce Or and Christopher Steel,

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01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: one time, Steel is concerned about Senator Grassley's letter and

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Speaker 1: the inquiry in that particular case. He's afraid that, as

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steel says, he's going to be implicated in all

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Speaker 1: of this. Uh Steele talks about trying to re engage

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Speaker 1: with the FBI. The FBI this is in June. They

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: had already fired him. We're frustrated with how long this

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Speaker 1: re engagement with the Bureau and Mueller is taking. Anything

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01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: you can do to accelerate the process would be much appreciated.

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01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: There are some new, perishable operational opportunities which we don't

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01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: want to miss out on. And then, of course the

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Speaker 1: one that we spent a lot of time talking about.

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Speaker 1: Just saw a leak in the media about the Bureau

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01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: handing over documents to Congress about my work and my

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01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: relationship with them. Very concerned about this. People's lives may

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01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: be in danger. And then he was asking two days

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01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: before Comey testified whether or not the firewalls would hold

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01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: or says that everything pretty much is a go and

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: no change from before. And then he mentioned that he's

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01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: afraid he may get exposed. So, I mean, what does

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Speaker 1: all of that mean to you? Because I know what

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01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: it means to me. What it means is the largest conspiracy,

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: perhaps ever, but if not ever, at least since Watergate

1191
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: is being little by little exposed, one that goes from

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01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton to the d n C. After they did

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01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: away with Bernie Sanders through their misconduct, they turned their

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: attention to Donald Trump and they produced false information. But

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01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,480
Speaker 1: unlike the plumbers for those that didn't know the history,

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01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: the folks that broke into the during the Watergate, this

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: was a government operation. They used private money at the

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Speaker 1: d n C to create an environment in which they

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Speaker 1: were able to leverage the awesome power and authority of

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: the federal government to begin spying and making Donald Trump

1201
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,719
Speaker 1: look less loyal to his country, more involved with Russia,

1202
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: when in fact, nothing could be further from the truth,

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01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: at least based on any and all evidence. Still today,

1204
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: and it's been an awful lot of them. They're looking

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: for something that isn't there. I keep hearing that if

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Speaker 1: we ever got a look at the unredacted final FISA application,

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01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: if we ever got a copy of the three O

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: two's uh specifically involved in the engagement of specific individuals,

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: if everything was ever released, that the whole thing would

1210
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: come crumbling down. Do you believe that to be true?

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01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: Do you know that to be true? I believe it

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01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: to be true, and I believe the American people in

1213
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: this case, at the insistence of the President, have an

1214
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: absolute right to know whether that's true or not. It's

1215
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: amazing to me that the Department of Justice under Attorney

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01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: General Jeff Sessions cannot seem to stop their old habit

1217
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: of thwarting Congress. Under Obama, we understood why they were

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: working for their boss. Now, in fact, they're working by definition,

1219
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: against what their own leaders are saying they want, which

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01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: is full transparency. They're not even giving partial transparency. And

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: as you know, the Speaker of the House is third

1222
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: in line to the presidency, obviously Mike Penn second in line,

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: and then the President. The fact is they're not even

1224
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: being given the whole truth, and that I'd like to know,

1225
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: like draining the swamp, don't we know that Christopher Steele

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01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: and Fusion GPS was And again Christopher Steele, when put

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Speaker 1: under oath and Great Britain and interrogatory with the threat

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01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: of perjury hanging over his head, said I this is

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: all raw intelligence. I don't know if anything in this

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: dossier is true. But do we know that if he

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: that he in fact went to the American media to

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01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: propagate these lives to influence an American election with things

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: that he never verified. In other words, before filing the FISA,

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: was this misinformation being being used to hurt then candidate

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: Trump to help Hillary Clinton? A document she paid for

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01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: based on Russian lines? Did they cover that up? Everything

1237
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: I have seen behind closed tours indicates the answer is

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: yes that in fact, Christopher Steele's job wasn't just to

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: create a faith dossier. It was also to get it

1240
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: to the media as many times as it took so

1241
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: that they could then say the media had reported so

1242
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: they then could use it further as though it was evidence.

1243
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: In other words, like the Michael luzzakof Yahoo's story, it

1244
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: came from Steel, so all the bulk of the information

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: for the application came from the dossier. Then they say, see,

1246
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: even the media is reporting it, but the source for

1247
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: Michael Izakov's article was Christopher Steel. It's circular reporting. It's

1248
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: circular reporting, and it's just like somebody who tells somebody

1249
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: gossip and then when that gets to somebody else they

1250
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: then use it as a source except in this case,

1251
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: it was used to gain FISA warrants. It was used

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01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: to disparage the president. It was used to create an

1253
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 1: environment in which the Attorney General recused himself and allowed

1254
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: a special prosecutor to be created by none other than

1255
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: Rod Rosenstein, who is part of that in fact, pre

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: election conspiracy. If you tie Bruce or is deep friendship

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: and working relationship with Christopher Steele, and I assume you know,

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Speaker 1: I would also include Glenn Simpson or at least somebody

1259
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Speaker 1: from Fusion GPS and then his wife working a Fusion GPS.

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Speaker 1: Do we know for sure she worked on this phoney dossier?

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't know that yet. What we do

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: know is Susan GPS is not that large of organizations, uh,

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: and the coincidence of her being there leaves little doubt.

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: But Sean Hennedy, I want to give you one thing

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Speaker 1: that your listeners need to hear, and that is that

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: in any conspiracy like this, the vast majority of communication

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01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: occurs in person or possibly over the phone. Remember we

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01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: don't have any phone calls, we don't have any personal communication.

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Speaker 1: We have prob the tip of the iceberg. Five percent

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Speaker 1: or less of the communication most of it, including with

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Speaker 1: Nellie bruss Or's wife, probably occurred in person one to

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Speaker 1: want or over the phone. And that's one of the

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Speaker 1: challenges is we're connecting the dots when in fact, most

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Speaker 1: of the material was done very cleverly, as they like

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Speaker 1: to say, over the trans of meaning the way spies

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Speaker 1: communicate in a way that can't easily be traced. What

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Speaker 1: else is there that would be available as it relates

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Speaker 1: to the Gang of Eight, that would support improve this

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Speaker 1: narrative to be true if the President were to declassify

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Speaker 1: such well. First of all, once we have sort of

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Speaker 1: the openness of this information, then the voters and and

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Speaker 1: the America will know most of what they need to

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Speaker 1: know to make a decision once and for all on

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and the false narrative that somehow the President

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Speaker 1: was the one dealing in, if you will, Russian collusion

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Speaker 1: or anything of this sort. The second part, and the

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Speaker 1: more important part, is that many of these individuals in

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Speaker 1: a real investigation, if we had a special prosecutor, as

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Speaker 1: the President believes we should, we would be looking at

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Speaker 1: at records of phone calls. We'd be finding those communications.

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Speaker 1: We may not know the content, but at least we

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Speaker 1: know how many times a phone call went between people

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Speaker 1: and begin to connect the dots. They're probably leading, if

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Speaker 1: you will, not just to Christopher's steel, but then to

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Speaker 1: the people he was involved in, which could be the Russians. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable. So basically everything that we've been

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Speaker 1: told is not true. What do you make of what

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Speaker 1: Mueller has done here? I mean, he he It seems

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Speaker 1: like he went out of his way to um indict

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01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: former KGB guys, Russian intelligence people, and we know that

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Speaker 1: they're never going to come to the US or be

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Speaker 1: extraditeed in any way. So that's a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: We know he he mentioned these Russian bot companies and

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01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: now a couple of them are fighting back and he

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01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: doesn't even want to provide them discovery. Why do I

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: think that is going nowhere? And really the essence of

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Speaker 1: the investigation has now moved on to loan applications, tax

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Speaker 1: returns and UH and the such a Paul Manafort of

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01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: Michael Khan, and there's nothing to do with Russia, the president,

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Speaker 1: the campaign or collusion of any type. Well, what we

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: need to get from Mueller we're not going to get.

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: We need equal Justice. But he has very carefully said

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Speaker 1: it's outside his purview, and that was created by Rod Rosens. Guy,

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Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, how could it be outside of

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: his purview? But Paul Manafords loan applications from before he

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: ever knew Trump is within his purview. You're exactly right, Hannity,

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 1: You're exactly right. But what he's been doing is carefully

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Speaker 1: saying I can't go back towards Hillary. That's not within

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: my four square. Which is the reason that if Jeff

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Speaker 1: Sessions would do what Jeff Sessions should do, and any

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Speaker 1: good Attorney general would do is appoint a separate prosecutor

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Speaker 1: to go back, why won't he do it? Look, I

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: sometimes when you see someone freeze, like the deer in

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01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: the headlights of an oncoming car, you can't explain why

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: somebody would do something. I have been so disappointed that

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General has neither it's called foul with the

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: investigation he's seen, nor insisted on the other investigation. But

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Speaker 1: the first step that the Attorney general has to do.

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Speaker 1: And I am here today calling on Jeff Sessions, where

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Speaker 1: I worked with when he was a senator, to make

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Speaker 1: sure the documents Congress is asked for, are delivered in

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Speaker 1: an unredacted way, or resign. Make it make a decision,

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: deliver the documents pursuing too lawful uh interests of Congress,

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01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: or resign. Well, it seems like it's heading hopefully in

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Speaker 1: that direction. All right, thank you sir for being with us.

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01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: We'll watch very closely tomorrow, darryl Issa One. Sean is

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: a toll free telephone number. You want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program. Hi to Karen in California. Karen, Hi,

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01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: how are you. You're on the Sean Hannity Shop. Hi, Sean.

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01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: It's so nice to be be able to talk to you.

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01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: I watch you every single evening and I hate it,

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01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: and I watched it sometimes twice, and I just want

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01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: to thank you for what you're doing for the country,

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01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: for our president, and for promoting the truth of what's

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01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: going on. Wow, you're really nice. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Bold to see there are still sensible people in California,

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01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm beginning to worry. I mean, this is the sanctuary state. Now,

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 1: this is the state with thirteen and a half percent

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Speaker 1: state income tax, where no Republican I think has a

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01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: chance of winning, at least in the foreseeable future. But

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Speaker 1: there are some important congressional races out there, Karen. If

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01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: we win those, that's probably going to be a game changer.

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01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,919
Speaker 1: In seventy one days, well, we have to do something

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01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: to change California and make her go red again like

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01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: she did with Reagan. And we've got to do it.

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Speaker 1: We have to do it. If you have any ideas, yeah,

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01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: for people to open their eyes and realize that the

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Speaker 1: state is being destroyed by the likes of Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: and Jerry Brown. I think that's that's the perfect answer.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to count on you, Karen, will deputize

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Speaker 1: to go out there and help us in seventy one

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Speaker 1: days eight nine for one, Shawn Tofrey telephone number when

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Speaker 1: we come back. Dr Francis E. Jensen, Professor, Department share

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Speaker 1: of Neurology at the Pearlman School of Medicine, author of

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Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller of The Teenage Brain. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, why do we have all these violent

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Speaker 1: school shootings, etcetera? With these kids? What's going on in

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Speaker 1: their heads? Hopefully she'll shed some light in until all

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Speaker 1: of that. Next to the top of the hour, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us, Jacksonville Florida Sheriff Michael Williams speaking

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01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: after the deadly shooting that took place over the weekend

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Florida, during a gaming event and a popular

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01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: shopping center in Jacksonville, killing two people, wounding several others

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Speaker 1: before the gunmen killed himself. Gunfire heard around one pm

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Speaker 1: at a video gaming event Jacksonville, landing Madden NFL Championship

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01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: Series and uh. In addition to the two killed, eleven

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Speaker 1: people were injured, nine of them with gunshot wounds. I mean,

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01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 1: just sad, But we keep hearing about all of these

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Speaker 1: kids and all of these shooting incidences, and rather than

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Speaker 1: you know, make it an argument, the predictable argument about

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Speaker 1: guns and guns and guns, etcetera. UM, I don't think

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01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: it's necessarily going to be a gun. If somebody wants

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Speaker 1: to kill somebody or is having impulses to kill somebody,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna probably find a way to do it. Um.

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Speaker 1: And what is going on with our kids? Is it

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Speaker 1: related in any way? You know? Do we have answers

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Speaker 1: to what is going on the psychology the psychiatry behind

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Speaker 1: all of this. Dr Francis C. Johnson, Professor, Department of

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Speaker 1: Chair of neurology at the Perman School of Medicine and

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Speaker 1: at the University of Pennsylvania. Also New York Times bestseller

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Speaker 1: book called The Teenage Brain. And uh welcome. You're a

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Speaker 1: well known nera scientist and world renowned and um, what

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Speaker 1: is going on in these kids brains that causes this? Well,

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01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on and um, I hope I

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01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: can help uh shed some light. Um. So, there's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of science in the last say, two fifteen years,

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01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: two decades that is really revealing a lot about how

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Speaker 1: our brain development develops, and that the teenage brain and

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Speaker 1: the late uh teenager early twenties is not yet adult.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the brain is the most complex organ and

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01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't fully developed about thirty years of age. And

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Speaker 1: what we're understanding two big things that might be relevant

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Speaker 1: here um related to the to the adolescent and young

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Speaker 1: adult brain. First of all, your brain areas are specialized,

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Speaker 1: and there's parts of your brain that are um really

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01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: built for risky, risk taking, emotionality, sexuality, rage, all those

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Speaker 1: emotional things in a part of your brain called the

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Speaker 1: limbic system. But you also have a part of your

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Speaker 1: brain called the frontal lobe, which is executive controlled decision making, judgment, empathy,

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Speaker 1: impulse control, organization, those are kind of what we consider

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Speaker 1: our executive functions. That part of the brain, the frontal lobe,

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Speaker 1: is not as the connections to that part of their brain,

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Speaker 1: That of the brain are not as mature yet until

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Speaker 1: mid to late twenties. So the connection, by the way,

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Speaker 1: especially for boys, don't girls brains mature so exactly. So

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Speaker 1: science is showing that on average, now on average they're

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Speaker 1: early boys and late girls. They're about two years difference

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Speaker 1: at least between um, you know, on the maturational scale

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Speaker 1: scale of when you reach full maturity. So what in

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Speaker 1: the adolescent period and early you know, adulthood, we have

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Speaker 1: brains that have um are very emotionally charged because the

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Speaker 1: emotional parts of the brain are UM functioning very well.

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Speaker 1: But the frontal lobe connections back to those rum areas

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Speaker 1: are not as fully developed as they will be an adult.

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Speaker 1: So impulse control or thinking through things, organization or cause

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01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: and effect are not going to be ready at you know,

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Speaker 1: and in the split second judgments that adults can make

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Speaker 1: at lessons are not how long, I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 1: parent of soon to be twenty year old and soon

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Speaker 1: to be seventeen year old, and I'm thinking, great, lucky me.

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01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm in the worst of it, am I not. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a very exciting time because the other not that

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01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: exciting for dad, I can tell you that right. So, um,

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Speaker 1: there's there are very many good things about this part

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Speaker 1: of development. Is they need to be exploring. So in

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Speaker 1: a way, our brains are built probably so that you

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Speaker 1: do go out and take some risks under you know,

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Speaker 1: under moderate conditions. But your brain can learn faster in

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Speaker 1: this window and actually your i Q can change in

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Speaker 1: your teen years. Science is now shown. So it's a

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Speaker 1: time when you're building better connections between your brain cells,

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Speaker 1: which you're called neurons. They have connections called synapses. You

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01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: actually can build synapses faster and you know, stronger in

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Speaker 1: this age window. Now, the down the good side of

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01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 1: that is that they can learn fast, but the downside

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Speaker 1: is that they can get um, they can learn bad

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01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: things fast in this window too. So addiction, actually we've

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Speaker 1: learned ner of science is now shown. It's simply a

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Speaker 1: form of learning. So when people get addicted to drugs

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: or even video games for instance, it's using this reward

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01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: circus in circuit and creating um connections at a much

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01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: higher rate and much stronger. Well, I gotta be honest.

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01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean my adult my my son in particular, you know,

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01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: spends a ton of time playing Xbox now, he plays

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01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: everything for Madden Football, NBA games, Call of Duty. I mean,

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01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: they play at all, and um, I don't I'd rather

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01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: have them playing Xbox than going out drinking and hanging

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: out with kids that are in trouble or whatever else

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Speaker 1: they might be doing. Sure, so they become experts of

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01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: video games a lot faster than adults do because they

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Speaker 1: can learn a lot. It's annoying he doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: the patience to teach me how to get the first

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01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: base on these things, like I'll do it, I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. And and of course we as

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01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: parents look at them and just marvel at that, but

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Speaker 1: then can't understand why they go ahead and do things

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01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: so you know, we would say, are obvious not to do.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we call these, you know, teenagers sort

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Speaker 1: of ferraris with weak breaks that we the braks, meaning

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Speaker 1: their frontal lobes. But their brains are very very active,

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Speaker 1: so they need us as adults too. We have our

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Speaker 1: frontal lobes in place and connected fully, and we have

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Speaker 1: to be sort of give them up frontal lobo sift

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Speaker 1: if you will, from time to time. And that goes

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Speaker 1: on an individual basis, but I think you know, across

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Speaker 1: society we need to think about this rather tender age

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Speaker 1: where they are very impressionable. They learned super fast for

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01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: good and bad things, and yet their ability to um

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01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 1: decision make is not what you have not given me

1480
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 1: any hope at all. I mean, you're basically saying, sorry,

1481
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: your kid's brains are underdeveloped as it relates to impulse control,

1482
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: and it's going to be that way until probably the

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: twenty five thanks a lot. That's not what I wanted

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01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: to hear. So what you would like to hear is

1485
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: that you can't teach them how to be under better.

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01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: That would assume that they listen to me, and you know,

1487
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 1: they might hear me, but they don't listen. So one

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01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: of the big messages that we are giving now about

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01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: for parents and and everybody in general who interacts with

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01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: teenagers is to be mindful if they are not adults

1491
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 1: with fewer miles on them, And so we have to

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01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: kind of have that insight when you're relating to um

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01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: to a teenager, And I always say, you know, if

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01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: if possible, try not to alienate oneself from a teenager,

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: because then they really won't listen to it. Well, why

1496
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: can't they just follow the simple rules I lay out

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01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: for them and not break the rules? Well, you know

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01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: when you actually go through the process and role play

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01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: with them, that you do a lot play as a

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01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: teaching you know, as you can teach. Now I can

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01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: go back to when I was being raised, you know,

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: there was no role playing except my father. I did

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01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: something wrong, he took off his belt. He beat the

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01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: crap out of me. Now, I've never done that to

1505
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: my own kids, but that was the extent of role

1506
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: playing in the home I grew up in. Well, you know,

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01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: our our experience as teenagers, you know, X number of

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01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: years ago, it's very different to the very challenging environment

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01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 1: that our teenagers are in now. Teenage brains have been

1510
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: the exact same brain for the last you know, millennia.

1511
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm afraid of. His teenage brain is

1512
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: exactly the way my teenage brain was, and that's not

1513
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: good for anybody. So, um, the issue is the environment

1514
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: around the teenagers is offering them a lot more risks

1515
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: to take, if you will, And we have to kind

1516
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: of think about that, like what what do they have

1517
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: you know at the ready that they may or may

1518
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: may not make good decisions about how accessible are you know, drugs, weapons,

1519
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: all these other things in the environment, knowing that they have,

1520
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, this propensity for um for impulsivity. Another thing

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01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: that I think we need to think about in the

1522
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: teenage but a lot of people it's news to them,

1523
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: is that mental illness um is actually a developed is

1524
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: largely developmental, in that you know, one in four to

1525
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: one in five people in our country have some form

1526
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: of mental illness, ranging from something mod like anxiety, all

1527
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: the way up to you know, a more serious disease

1528
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: like bipolar or schizophrenia, psychosis. And it's interesting that the

1529
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: time when these diseases, these disorders come on is in

1530
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: late teens and early adulthood because they require a certain

1531
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: amount of brain development, meaning to your frontal lobes, to

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01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 1: actually fully manifest. So one of the issues is that

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01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: about seventy people who have mental illness have their onset

1534
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: between sixteen and twenty six years of age. And I

1535
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: think that we not that we have this science that

1536
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: shows us that and why that's happening. We might want

1537
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: to think about screening people. We screen for colon cancer

1538
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: in fifty year old plus breast cancer prostates. If you

1539
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 1: would have examined me when I was seventeen, I can

1540
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: tell you right now I would have been off the charts,

1541
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, lock them up. Well, I think you you

1542
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: may have proven that wrong, but wow, I mean my

1543
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: mother used to say it was either going to be

1544
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: prison or success, that'd be know in between. So well,

1545
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: I think in structured environments for kids. Learning environments are

1546
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: really important this winter. Remember I said your IQ can

1547
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: change in your team years, and so you're setting this

1548
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: person up, you know, basically with scaffolding for the for

1549
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: the more eloquent parts of their brain are being built

1550
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: in the teen years. In other words, you're basically saying

1551
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: we need to put a trampoline in a net underneath

1552
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: them because they're gonna fall through it in all likelihood. Well,

1553
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 1: you did you? Did? You? Did you not do anything

1554
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: wrong when you were a teenager? I mean I was

1555
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: in trouble, did wrong things, I think, But I don't

1556
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 1: think you were as incoorageible as I am. I've believe me.

1557
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: I know of many people that survived through this window.

1558
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: I do think though, that you're going to get extreme cases, um,

1559
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: where things go extremely wrong, and most people will through

1560
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: trial and error. And now trial and error is exactly

1561
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: that you know. Your brain is learning by making small mistakes,

1562
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: hopefully small and not highly What was the worst thing

1563
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: you did as a teenager with you know, when your

1564
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: brain wasn't fully developed. I'm going to take the fifth

1565
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: on that, but I would say, come on, what what's

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01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: the worst thing you did? I don't think you ever

1567
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: gotten any trouble. I can tell you I did. So

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: I think that people um in this window are we

1569
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: we couldn't. We shouldn't be too surprised when kids do

1570
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 1: get in trouble. And that's what I say to parents

1571
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 1: is that you know, to be a little bit more

1572
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: understanding and not alienate your kid, because then you aren't

1573
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: going to be able to sort of work them out

1574
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: of you help them reason their way out of situations,

1575
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: or to learn new skills to not go there again. Um.

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01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: And at that I think is very important. Well, well,

1577
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: what about on a serious know all these kids that

1578
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: play these, say, violent video games, or see violent movies.

1579
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: Do you think it impacts them negatively? Or you know,

1580
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: kids understand that that we know that our brain we

1581
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: have we have something called plasticity, our synaps as. We

1582
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 1: call it plastic because they're multiple by experience. So yes,

1583
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,520
Speaker 1: we are very We know in earlier parts of childhood

1584
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: that if you are exposed to a stressful event, that

1585
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: you actually can suffer consequences as a result of that.

1586
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: There is emerging evidence the same in adolescents. One thing

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01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: that is very interesting, um from what I was saying

1588
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: about the fact that their um emotional parts of their brain,

1589
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 1: their limbic system is is sort of connected up before

1590
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: several years ahead of when their frontal lobe finishes its

1591
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 1: full connections. You show a teenager an emotionally charged scene

1592
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 1: and you're measuring their brain function. They actually show almost

1593
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: twice as much activity in their limbic system as does

1594
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: an adults shown the exact same stressful scene. So we

1595
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: know that they're more vulnerable to the effects of stress,

1596
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: and certainly they're picking it up. They're experiencing um, you know, emotion.

1597
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: I always say in technicolor to our black and white.

1598
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: So we have to realize that this is sort of

1599
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: a highly emotional period of sort of responsivity and this

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01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: age group and that that will pass, but it is

1601
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: managing the environment. Um and all right, I think you've

1602
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: given us a lot of good tools as it relates

1603
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: to helping kids. It's just scary to be a paranount.

1604
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: There's so many bad influences. Uh, doctor, thank you for

1605
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: being one of us. We appreciate it. And then next

1606
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: time you can tell us all the horrible things you

1607
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: did when you were a teenager. Now, so remember, knowledge

1608
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: is power and um, as parents and teachers and counselors

1609
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: understand and learn this new brain science of what we're

1610
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: when did you when? Did you? When? Do you think

1611
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: your frontal lobe kicked in when you were acting rationally? Completely?

1612
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I think we're all getting there in our twenties. I

1613
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: think you see a lot of changes of people who

1614
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 1: need to take gap years, people who need to, you know,

1615
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: reorganize themselves. It's a very very active time. And as

1616
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: I said, the brain isn't done yet until you're close

1617
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: to thirty, which is it's it's actually can be a

1618
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 1: very positive message. I don't think when thea our producers

1619
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: bray is fully formed because she says anything that comes

1620
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: into her head. It's funny. I was just thinking the

1621
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: same thing about you. She has have like a sixty

1622
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 1: year old boy. She has major impulse control when it

1623
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: comes to using cuss words. I'll tell you that. No,

1624
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,679
Speaker 1: I think, I think hard and long about which you welcome.

1625
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 1: Is any medicine you can give her or offer. He's

1626
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: on my side. You're gonna lose this one, no one,

1627
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: and one last thing I would say, um, just about

1628
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: another piece of information that often is relevant for people

1629
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 1: is that you know, peer pressure effects are very very

1630
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: strong in this win. I agree. So so kids should

1631
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: not have any friends at all. I agree keep them

1632
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: away from their friends. Sorry about you know the effects

1633
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: of social media in terms of bringing bringing social isolation

1634
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: or or actually the wrong social context into the lives

1635
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: of these of kids. So I think there's a you know,

1636
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: a huge amount we kind of have to think about

1637
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: as a at parents in the society around teenagers because

1638
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you worry that people sort of are

1639
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: playing with fire when they're on right. I'm up about

1640
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: a heartbreak. We thank you, Dr Jensen, appreciate your being

1641
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: with us. Eight one, Shawn told free telephone number. I

1642
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: hope that helps as it relates to you know, what's

1643
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: going on inside your kid's brains. It's scary, right, Hannity tonight,

1644
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. By the way,

1645
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham will be a special guest tonight, The Great One,

1646
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Mark Levin, Andy McCarthy and Alan Dershowitz, Greg and Sarah

1647
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 1: and Congressman Mark Meadows all coming up ninet Eastern tonight,

1648
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: Hannity on the Fox News Channel. Set your DVR. We'll

1649
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 1: see you then, and we'll see you back here tomorrow.