1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: You can have. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Because for the first time in your life, you'll make 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: under decision that's going to be best for you and 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: not what somebody had told you to do. And that's 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rashwan MacDonald. Our theme is there's no 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize that 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success. For you and 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: maybe decide to your VHA, it's time to stop reading 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: other people's success stories to start living your own. Cape Wedning. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: My next guest. She's the doctor of defeat. 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: She is the person that I should have found when 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: I was sixteen. She should have come into my life. 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Doctor Yolanda Ragulin. She's one of the top Bunyan and 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Hamerto surgeons in the Northeast with over twenty years of 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: medical experience. She maintains her office on Park Avenue in 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: New York City and the Washington metro area and Buie Meller. 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: The focus of her practice is bunyant and hammer told correction. 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Her trade secret Tierra Toe TM, which is a technique 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: leads patients with sandal ready feet. 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: We know summer is coming. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: Ladies, you know men too, which sandal's you know, getting 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: out there scaring us with your feet leaving no visible 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: scarring after their surgical procedure. Doctor Raglan's goal is to 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: help women be successful by supporting them with strong foundation. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass, the incredible much 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: needed Doctor Landa Raglan. 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: How you doing doctor, Hello, good evening, Rashawan, Thank you 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: so much for that glorious introduction. 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: How are you doing well? 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: You know, Albert, I'll be honest with you. I made 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: mistakes with my feet, doctor Raglan. And I know that's 35 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: not the first time you've heard this. You you went 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: into a business where you know, like you said, the 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: foundation of what you do in life is how you stand, 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: you walk, how you present yourself. 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: When you walk into a room. 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of people are walking around were very 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: painful feet, Am I correct? 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely not only they're they're walking around with painful, embarrassing 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: looking feet and uh and so what I found very 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: early on in my studies was that especially African American women, 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: they wanted to correct these problems. But they didn't just 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: want to get rid of the pain. They wanted the 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: feet to be beautiful too. So that was my AHA moment, 48 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: and I just decided that, you know, this is what 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: I was going to do. I'm going to focus on 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: this core group of UH of African American women or 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: women of color, and I'm going to hone my skills 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: in correcting bunions, hammer toes, getting rid of those those 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: unsightly corn But I'm not going to just get rid 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: of him, and I'm not going to just read you 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: of the pain. I'm also going to do it with 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: an aesthetic result. 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: This is a very serious subject that we're talking about. 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I brought on to just talk about her career, but 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: more importantly, to give an outlet because a lot of people, 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: like I said, are walking in pain, and they're walking 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: in pain. 62 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: My father. 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I always remember my father, you know, you know, you know, 64 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: just being honest. Was I just see him with these 65 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: huge coins on his toes, and I when I look 66 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: back now, I can only imagine how much pain he 67 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: was in because it was just it was just just 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: outrageously big. But he put his shows on, his shoes 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: on and walk out and I'm sure it was very uncomfortable. 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, but guess what for Sean? For then you 71 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: guys have him. You do have a little bit of 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: an option, Okay. 73 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: So I sold shoes for many years before I even 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 5: thought about becoming a docter and so, and I sold 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: men and women's shoes, so men. 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: Can get wider with even in your higher end shoes. Women, 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: on the other hand, when you start getting into these 78 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: wide with the shoes. 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: Just become uglier and uglier, so it. 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: Almost becomes not an option for them. So even though, 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: like you said, I'm sure you know your father did 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: experience some discomfort with the corns that he had on 83 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: his feet, he did have options where he could go 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: and get these shoes in E with or double E 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: or triple E or even a quadruple E with where 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: women just don't have that option. And if they do 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: have the option, it's just something that they are not 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: willing to do. They don't want to go there. 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: You absolutely are telling the truth. 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: Our wesize twelve shoe and I got a and it 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: gave me an option to have a wide and I 92 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: got a wide shoe. And I know because I know 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: if I get it tight. That's what ruined my feet. 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: When I was a teenager and going into college, I 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: will really tight, narrow shoes, and they were pointy toe, 96 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: and I ignored the pain. I ignored my shoe rubbing 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: against rubbing up against the side of my foot. I 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: ignored the fact that my my baby toe was collapsing 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: and as it was collapsing underneath because it was pointy toe, 100 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: so it was rubbing up against them. But guess what, 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: everybody was complimenting me on my shoes. Everybody those shoes, 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: those shoes. 103 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but did you take it? Did you ever 104 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: take your foot out of the slipper? 105 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling doctor, I took it out and put it 106 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: right back in there because my ego was being fed 107 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: by people telling me it look good, not the pain 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: and not not not the trouble. But I really want 109 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: to talk about it because your brand is fixed your 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: feet and if serge corrections of painful and embarrassing, you know, deformities, 111 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: even bunyance and habitoes. Can you tell us how did 112 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: you get in this business? Because you know, we hear 113 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: different professions. We hear nurses, we have you know, obg 114 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: y n we hear all different. But did get into 115 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: the businesses you're in? How did that happen? 116 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: And where did you go to school? 117 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: Well? Well, first of all, the school that I attended 118 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: undergrad I went to University of Maryland, and then I 119 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: did five years in between Maryland and I did a 120 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 3: little interim before I went to my pedietary medical school. 121 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: I did some research at the National Institute of Health 122 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: NIH in dermatology, so I'm burst in skin and then 123 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: and then that's when I decided that, yeah, you know, 124 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm going I'm going to definitely move forward with medical school. 125 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: And I wound up at the New York. 126 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: College of Podiatric Medicine and then I did a Rickors 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: uh surgical uh UH program with a UH with a 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: hospital that is a wild Cornell Medical School affiliate. 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: And then but but what really tifted you in that direction? 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Because you have options? You know, you're talented, you're educated, 131 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: But what you know, because everybody has a choice to make. 132 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: And like I said, I went to college and I 133 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: wanted to be an engineer, and then I drifted between 134 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: different majors and I wound up falling with my natural 135 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: love and skill was mathematics, and I minded it out 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: in sociology and I graduated, and that was really the 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: right direction for me to go, even though I thought 138 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: engineering was the direction that I wanted to go. Did 139 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: you go in college go into college thinking about this 140 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: direction or at what point if the light bulb went 141 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: out when I went out and went above your head 142 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: and said this is where you should be porning? 143 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: Well, I knew I was going to become a doctor. 144 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: This man. 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of things in health I 146 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: had experienced. I had experienced now what I look back on, 147 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: it was discrimination in the health care system. I didn't 148 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: know how to explain it back then, but now I 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: know how to articulate it. And that's exactly what was 150 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: happening to me. So I wanted to become a doctor 151 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: because I wanted to know what the doctors knew. And 152 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: as I said, in undergraduate, I started doing research at 153 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: the National Institute of Health in dermatology. So I thought 154 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: I was going to be a dermatologist and so but 155 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: I kept getting. 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: These applications from p Dietary. 157 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: School, not knowing what it was, and I was throw 158 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: away the applications and one of my friends stopped by 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: the lab as I was about to toss another application 160 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: in the garbage. 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 4: And she stopped me and says, what are you doing? 162 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: Why are you throwing that away? 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: And I'm like what and she's like, that's medical school 164 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, what is it? And she didn't. 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: She explained to me, you know, it's medicine of the foot, 166 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: and she kind of like broke it down for me. 167 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: She says, you know that there's hair, skin, and nails 168 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: on the foot, So if you want to stop specialize 169 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: in dermatology on the foot, you. 170 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 6: Can do that. 171 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: And I thought that that notion was kind of cool 172 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: because I like, I like the idea of having. 173 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: Like a niche practice. 174 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: I like, you know, being you know, real specific and 175 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: being like that that top notch specialist. So I thought 176 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: I was going to specialize in dermatology revolved around the foot. 177 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: Then I get into then I get into piet Pediatric 178 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: Medical School, and I realized there's this whole surgical aspect, 179 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: which basically we're doing surgery of the bones, so it's 180 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: basically orthopedic surgery. And I'm just like, holy guacamole, we 181 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: got chips. I'm like, my hands are very dextrous. I 182 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: am very good at reproducing results. And I and when 183 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: I found out that there was this whole, big, huge 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: surgical aspects, I was. 185 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 4: Just like, this is what I want to do. Because 186 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: when I was living in the dorms. 187 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: Some ladies would stop me all the time and say, hey, hey, 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: and this is me as a student. I'm like a 189 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: first year, second year student and like, hey, can you 190 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: get rid of this corn right here? But I wanted 191 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: to be done cosmetically because they had seen the results 192 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: of their friends or their mom, or their aunty or 193 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: their cousins, and they didn't want that result. And I 194 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: kept hearing this over and over again throughout throughout medical school. 195 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: And then you know, and then I started seeing what 196 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: results looked like when I was in my residency program, 197 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: and I would compare what I would see on Caucasian 198 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 3: skin versus black skin, and I would and I would 199 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: see that those results did not translate over to the 200 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 3: black skin that we scar differently. So I said, you know, you. 201 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: Got to think outside the box. 202 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: You know, there's got to be a better way to 203 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: do this so we can get better results on people 204 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: of color. And so with my dermatological background, I was like, Okay, 205 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: there are ways to suit you the skin, you know, 206 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: speak more like a plastic surgeon working on one's face. 207 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: I just said, there's got to be, you know, different 208 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: ways to clothes, and maybe there's different approaches so the 209 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 3: scars aren't visibly noticeable to the eyes. 210 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 4: Maybe we can hide the scars. 211 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: And because I was afforded the opportunity to be in 212 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: such a great residency program and scrub in with literally 213 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of different surgeons, I got to see 214 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: people do things so many different ways. So I journal 215 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: the techniques that I thought were the most optimal, and 216 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: then I put those things together and then I put 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 3: a little bit of my special sauce. 218 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: On it, and. 219 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: And then that's how I came up with my petty 220 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: plastic Tierra toe technique. And so yes, that's that's basically, 221 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: that's basically how I how I came. 222 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: Up with with the practice. 223 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: And like I said, I started the practice to target 224 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: the specific demographic in. 225 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: My keeping in mind that the. 226 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 3: Procedures are for everybody. But I felt like this specific 227 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: demographic was being dismissed. They weren't being heard, and they 228 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: weren't receiving the services that they deserve, right. 229 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: Right, now, when you when you talk about trying to 230 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: do something offices technique, was it a new technique? Was 231 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: it a technique that you figured out and then when 232 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: you when you started applying it that other fellow doctors 233 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: in your industry questioned their technique or feather it was 234 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: some type of fad or some type of you know, 235 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: hype theme that you had, you would you put in place? 236 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: What was the reaction? 237 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: So you know, honestly, Rashan, I don't really pay attention 238 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 3: to what's it, what the other people what they're thinking. Absolutely, 239 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 3: because I know that I am doing something with reproducible results, 240 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: with UH with high statist with a very high satisfaction 241 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: rate for over fifteen years. 242 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: So when if I have may sayers that don't understand 243 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: my demographic right and that have been giving my demographic, the. 244 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: Demographic that I'm targeting less than what they deserve, and 245 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: if they are snubbing their noses at my technique, I 246 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: don't have time to pay attention to that. What I 247 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: do know is that that I. 248 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: Have taked like I said, it's been. 249 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 3: Everything about the technique is not completely new, but there 250 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: are aspects of it that are completely new. So I've taken, 251 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: like I said, different things. I saw one person do 252 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: you think one thing this way? Another person do something 253 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: another way, and I combine some of those things together, 254 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: and like I said. 255 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: Then I put Then. 256 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: As I started perfecting the technique, I started changing things 257 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: and tweaking it and just getting it so that I 258 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: can get the best result possible for these patients. 259 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Here's a question, doctor Raglan, because I grew up with 260 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: six sisters. And I'm not saying I'm a female expert, 261 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: but I had six of them in my life, and 262 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: I guess what. They were very opinionated, and five of 263 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: them were older than me, so they did dear my vision. 264 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: When it comes to high heels, are high heels safe 265 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: to where all the time? Or is there a certain 266 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: age less weight limits for high heels? Talk about the 267 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: high heels phenomenon because they're not going away as a 268 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: part of the fashion culture. Is there a I wouldn't 269 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: use the word danger, but are they safe to where 270 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: all the time? 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 6: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 272 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 6: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 273 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 6: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 274 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow Money Making 275 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 6: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 276 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about high heels like like one would 277 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: talk about alcohol. 278 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: Okay, where your high heels responsibly? 279 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: Right right? 280 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: So, and I'm saying that you you should not be 281 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: in a pair of five inch to lettos eight hours strength. 282 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: That's you know, that's bad form, that's bat decorum for 283 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: the foot. 284 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: But if you know, if. 285 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: You're having a night out and you want to look 286 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: extra and you are able to tolerate walking around in 287 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: those shoes, by all means, I think that express yourselves. 288 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 4: You know, go ahead, you be you. 289 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: But like I said, it's not something for you to 290 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: stand around. 291 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: In all day long for eight hours. If you're going 292 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 4: to wear. 293 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: Heels like you should always bring a pair of safety 294 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: shoes with you so that you can give your foot 295 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: a break from being in that declanated angle. 296 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: For so long. 297 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: And if you start to feel pain, like you shouldn't 298 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: be feeling pain, So like you were saying, you you 299 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: would feel the pain on the pinky tost so that 300 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: pinky toast starts burning. Sounds like it's about to catch 301 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: on fire. You need to come out of them and 302 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: get into your safety ship because that is a point 303 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: where your feet are literally talking to you and telling 304 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: you I need belief, Please get me out of here. 305 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: And that's and that's true. 306 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: What you're saying is very true, very true. We ignore 307 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: what our body is telling us. We ignore our body 308 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: talking to us. I ignored it, and and that's why 309 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: when I invited you on the show. You know, my 310 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: show is money Made Conversation Mas Life, they said, why 311 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: do you. 312 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: Have a foot doc through it? 313 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: Because I know how my feet impact my life every day. 314 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: You know, because of my feet, I have to soak 315 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: them once a month just to just I'm not going 316 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: to any graphic details, but I have to take care 317 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: of my feet periodically to make sure that I can 318 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: walk in the shoes that I now for myself. 319 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: Because I'm smarter now. I know about with I know about. 320 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: A round curve toe area, something that I didn't do 321 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: when I was younger. Because I and my shoes still 322 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: look smartly, they still look spooredly. People just still compliment 323 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: them or compliment me on my shoes. But I didn't 324 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: know now what advice when you when when you when 325 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: people come into your office, do you become a counselor 326 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: a person who give out advice? I know because because 327 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: they have to still take care of their feet after 328 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: you fix them correct. 329 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: So you know, I've become a little bit of everything. 330 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm I'm an auntie, a sister, a best friend. I'm 331 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: all and a counselor their doctor, their surgeon. I'm all 332 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: of these things. Because I wanted women to come to 333 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: a safe place. I wanted them to come someplace where 334 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 3: they would get really good information. They're gonna they're gonna 335 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: get They're going to be able to make a real 336 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: good informed decision on whether or not they should move 337 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 3: forward with surgery. 338 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you. 339 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: If you even really need to have surgery. So I've 340 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: actually and this is how you know, this is how 341 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: I make my bread and butter. 342 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 4: This is I do not have a general pedietary practice. 343 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: I make my bread and butter by doing those few 344 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: services that we announced earlier. And so if and and 345 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 3: I want to protect my patients from going to a 346 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: predatory doctor because some of these people come in with 347 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: their really great insurance. They don't even realize how great 348 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: their insurance is, but they might not have anything that 349 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: really needs to be done, and I don't want them. 350 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 4: To have surgery regret or I. 351 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: Don't want them to do a prescedure that is at 352 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: high risk and they have and they really don't have symptoms. 353 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: So I'm going to. 354 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: Give my patients the best if I if I feel 355 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: like you really need the surgery done, I'm going to 356 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: do I will do the procedure. If I feel like 357 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: you really do not need the procedure done, I'm going 358 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 3: to tell you that now. I've even had a case 359 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: where I tried to talk the lady out of the procedure, 360 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: try to She's like. 361 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 4: No, you're going to come in here and you're going 362 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: to do everything. She basically told me that. 363 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: And I said, what, I got frightened because I thought 364 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: she was going to go to somebody else, and I 365 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: thought that they were going she was going to wind 366 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: up with a result that. 367 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: She wasn't going to be happy with. 368 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: So I said, you know, I basically told her, think 369 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: about it. 370 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: Call me back up. Here's my cell phone number, call me, 371 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: text me. If I don't answer the phone, text me. 372 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: And she says, I still want to do it. And 373 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: that's when I said, okay, I'll do it, you know. 374 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: But then I read her the Riot Act. 375 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: Said, you know, I told her what all her risk was. 376 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: She understood that. But really, if I feel and I 377 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: think that when I tell patients, hey. 378 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: Look you really you really don't want to do that. 379 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: I'll do this thing over here, but you really don't 380 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 3: need to have this sunion done. 381 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: It doesn't hurt you. 382 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: Just have a little slight thump over there and you 383 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: can fit into your shoes. It's not an issue for you. 384 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot of risk in pungyon surgery. Why would 385 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: you put yourself at that risk? 386 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 4: And you know afterwards they. 387 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: Say, thank you doctor, thank you for being so honest. 388 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: This is why I started this practice. I wanted to 389 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: protect this particular demographic so people would not take advantage 390 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: of them, and so that they would get, like I said, 391 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 3: the services and the results that they deserve. 392 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to doctor Jinan the Raglin about feet and 393 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: then more importantly women, feet of females who are out 394 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: there trying to recover or trying to fix a problem 395 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 1: that they created. This all self inflicted at times, sometimes 396 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: it's not. But in this case, summer is coming, doctor Raglin. 397 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: What can women do to make sure they don't mess up? 398 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: Or what can they do to keep their feet beautiful? 399 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 4: Oh, you have to wear proper fitting shoes. So it 400 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: goes right back to you know, does it hurt. 401 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: If it hurts in the store, it's going to hurt 402 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: outside the store. 403 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: So can you say that one more time? Can you 404 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: say that? 405 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: You heard me? 406 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: If it hurts in the snow, it's going to hurt 407 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: outside the Still, that's what's going to happen. 408 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: So they'll play around with it. 409 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: Now. I would advise every woman, and this is gonna 410 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: you know, future, in the future, I'm going to create 411 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: a pair of shoe stretchers. But every woman should have 412 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: their own pair of shoe stretchers at home. 413 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: And that's because this way you don't have to go 414 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: to the shoe store. 415 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: You know, as soon as you get it, you shouldn't 416 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: be breaking in the shoe. Your foot should not be 417 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: breaking in the shoe. Allow the shoe stretcher to. 418 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: Do that job. 419 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: You can put you can get your you know. 420 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: Those nice beautiful Italian or French design shoes, you can 421 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: put them in the shoe stretcher. Let them sit in 422 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: there for a week or so and now they're broken in. 423 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: It's like somebody's been walking in. 424 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: Them straight for two, you know, two weeks straight, and 425 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: now they're broken in. So, like I said, the shoe 426 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: has to be comfortable. That's the that's the most important thing. 427 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: Keeping your feet clean and dry, keeping inspecting it daily, 428 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: making sure that you moisturize your foot daily, exfoliating all 429 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: the all the hard skin gently exfoliating. 430 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: Question here, doctor Raglan, because I you know, I've seen 431 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: women with band aids on the back of the heel 432 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: on their toes. Okay, these these are these are warning 433 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: signs that this is a bad shoe. 434 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: Correct. 435 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: I think that these are warning size and signs that 436 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: it's an ill fitting shoe. So a lot of times 437 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: if you have those band aids, or if you have 438 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: something that's in the back, it's probably because the shoe 439 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: does not fit you properly. It's if you have to 440 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: put a pad in the back, the shoe is too big. 441 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 3: Your put a slide fighting forward and the shoe is 442 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 3: too big, and that's why you're getting the friction on 443 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: the on on the back of your heel. Or some 444 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: ladies have something called the pump bump, and that could 445 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: be a reason why. Now, if you able to pump bump, 446 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: you might want to put something there that stops that 447 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: friction from happening. 448 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: Something called mole skin. 449 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 3: You can get that from any drug store and that 450 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: will stop the friction there. And and that that's something 451 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: you know, that's. 452 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 4: Just how your body has developed. But if you don't 453 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: have a pump bump on. 454 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: The back of your heel and that foot that shoe 455 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: is fighting off, you shouldn't have purchased the shoe in 456 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: the first place. Sometimes we just want the shoes so 457 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: bad and we just buy the size up or the 458 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: size down, and. 459 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: It's not worth it. 460 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: And that's you know, I can't you know, as a witness, 461 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: as I'm testifying right now, I'm testifying that she's telling 462 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: you the truth from a male perspective. 463 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: I did everything that she's saying incorrectly. 464 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I wore the tight shoes. I wore the shoe you know, 465 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: my shoe, you know, the teenageer. I wear size twelve, 466 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: but I was wearing the size nine. I wore sized ten. 467 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: I worresized level and that was worth When I was 468 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: in eleven, I was wearing the size, you know, if 469 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: it was ten and a half, Okay, I slided my 470 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: foot in there, you know, and I did that. 471 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: I let my foot stretch out the shoe. 472 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: You expanded, you know, as I got older, then I 473 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: half shoe horns and I put them in there and 474 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: I stretch them out, and I was let them you know. 475 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: I tell you used the word marinate in that shoe. 476 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: To get it right for my foot so my foot 477 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: won't be screaming. And so now I live a comfortable 478 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: life with my feet. But my feet have paid the price. 479 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: And what you're trying to say to all the callers 480 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: who are all the people who have listening to this show, 481 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: is that do not get to Rushan's stage of life. 482 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: You know, well do not. You know, it's not worth 483 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: is not worth. I have a life of regrets age. 484 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: And the thing is, in this day and age, we 485 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 3: have the internet, so you can literally scour the internet 486 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: to find your size if need be. So we didn't 487 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: have that back in our day, Rashwan, we didn't have that. 488 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm just to let you know, you know, a certain 489 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: brand of shoe and I saw this shoe the other day. 490 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to just let you know this, I almost 491 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: drifted back into old Rashan. I went our size twelve, 492 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: and it went to do it went up to size eleven. 493 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: I went, oh, that shoe looks so good. But I 494 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: always remember that. 495 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Rashan, You're too old and too smart to get 496 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: stupid again. And now, because I was almost about to 497 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: fall into the old weld again, I'm sizing down on 498 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: a big foot, sizing down on the big foot. 499 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: I want the listeners to all hear this, toow about 500 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: shoe sizes, ladies, all you ladies out there that like 501 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: your Italian, your European sizes, and those shoe salespeople tell 502 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: you a thirty. 503 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: Nine is a nine. 504 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now it's a lot. Thirty nine 505 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: is not a nine. A nine is a forty. Okay, 506 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: it's the next number up. Those people don't know what 507 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: they're talking about. I sold shoes. 508 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about. Mm hmm okay, I 509 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 4: sold shoes. When we used to measure. 510 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: Your foot on the Brandic device, we sat down in 511 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: stools and we put the shoes on your foot. Not 512 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: these people that come and throw the boxes that you 513 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 3: run away. So I'm telling all of you when they 514 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 3: come and tell you what thirty eight is the eight 515 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: they are lions. 516 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: I just want all of them. 517 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 3: Yes, there are, so I'm in the same goes for 518 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 3: the men's shoes as well. 519 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: So all these people that. 520 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: Are telling you don't buy the shoe just because of 521 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: the size, by what fits, what feels right on your flip, 522 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: don't get caught up in the number. It's just the number. 523 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Doctor Young Ragulin, I so appreciate you coming on 524 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: my show. Allow me to just, you know, tell the 525 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: truth about Rashwan and his feet, his magical feet, and 526 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: that's so magical. When I take the socks off, they're 527 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: rather terrifying. And I say that because of the fact 528 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: that I was stupid. I ignored the pain. I wore 529 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: shoes that were smaller than what they should have been. 530 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Now I am happy with my life. Were quality issues 531 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: that allows me to gracefully walk the halls or gracefully 532 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: drive my car. But I didn't have to pay the 533 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: price about whatever. Just listened, that's all. And that's why 534 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I invited you on the show, doctor Raglin, was to 535 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: just let people know you. 536 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: Are not You are not a month. 537 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: So yes, first of all, I just want to I 538 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: will let people know everything. 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