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Speaker 3: story that of course is once again not headline news

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Speaker 3: and a lot of websites around the country, but it

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Speaker 1: It's the migrant surge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody gave up on this story back, you know,

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Speaker 3: when they were covering it a couple of months ago

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Speaker 3: But the surge is so big that we're going to

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Speaker 3: tell you. There's a story this afternoon that they have

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Speaker 3: closed the legal entry the port of entry in El Paso,

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Speaker 3: to the other places where the migrants are crossing in

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Speaker 3: huge numbers. Apparently footage has come out showing two thousand

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Speaker 3: migrants crossing in a place called Eagle Pass, Texas, nearly

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Speaker 3: five hundred miles away. In El Paso, seventeen hundred migrants

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Speaker 3: port of entry with Mexico was shut down because personnel

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Speaker 1: That's right to assist with the massive surge. Only illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration is being allowed right now. Legal immigration has been

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Speaker 3: Well, we thought with the app that people were just

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Speaker 3: using that to make their way there and claim asylum

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Speaker 3: here through other memes.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing I heard this morning is that the

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Speaker 1: drug cartels have intentionally flooded the zone with migrants in

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Speaker 1: order to cause chaos, cause a shutdown so that they

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Speaker 1: can then divert large crowds.

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Speaker 2: Over the border illegally.

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Speaker 1: See, it's much more effective, much more cost effective and

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Speaker 1: to declare asylum. Right, So if you look at the

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Speaker 1: of illegal aliens crossing the river together. They were all

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Speaker 1: And they're getting now like almost ten thousand a day.

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Speaker 1: A New York City has been screaming about one hundred

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Speaker 1: and ten thousand totally in New York. They're getting ten

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Speaker 1: The story that goes with this this afternoon. That is

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Speaker 1: He is such a foolish little baby now crying and wailing.

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Speaker 1: It's like all these sanctuary city guys and women who

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Speaker 1: Abbott, the Texas governor has given New York City ten

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Speaker 2: Now they're not. They've got.

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Speaker 1: Cell phones, they've got smartphones, and they're well educated by

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Speaker 1: And if you don't send money to the cartel, the

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Speaker 2: So they own you.

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Speaker 1: You're like an indentured servant to them for the rest

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of New York City politicians, they're actually

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Speaker 1: Of course they do, as if they haven't driven out,

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Speaker 1: they have driven out thousands and thousands of wealthier taxpayers

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Speaker 1: and more are gonna leave. People are mobile down. They

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Speaker 1: You can move to a New Jersey or Connecticut, or

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Speaker 2: And you're gonna see they're gonna leave. And who wants?

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Speaker 1: Who wants all the illegal aliens in your local public school?

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Speaker 1: I heard they got nineteen thousand of these illegal alien

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, yay. Who wants to live there? Who wants

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Speaker 3: Remember the big story a couple of years ago with

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Speaker 3: all waving. It's called a Ferromex train. It's bursting with migrants,

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Speaker 4: So they got sock cheering as they passed the person

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Speaker 1: Well, it's missing of the boo boozellas and this would

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Speaker 3: So there is no way that this has ended as

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Speaker 1: The Biden crowd doesn't look at it as a crisis.

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Speaker 1: It's not a crisis to them. This is what they

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Speaker 3: Well, they are because it does matter to voters that

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Speaker 1: But politically they have to care now. But up until

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Speaker 2: Right. No, No, I'm convinced.

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Speaker 1: They're all terrified in the cartels, that the cartels are

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe the American government in Biden

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Speaker 3: Our own lovely MacArthur Park, John near downtown Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: which apparently has become a fentinyl dumping ground that's overwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: Round the air from one until four and then after

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Speaker 1: can hear the show again. It doesn't get any better,

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Speaker 1: but you can hear it again. Okay, that's an honest

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Speaker 3: I don't think it changes much, no, not from what

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Speaker 2: If it stanks at one o'clock, it stanks, you know

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Another reason why the borders are being overwhelmed with people

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Speaker 1: That's another little.

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Speaker 3: Tactic that the cartels use, and we're seeing another huge surge.

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Speaker 3: It's actually been going on for weeks. We haven't covered

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Speaker 3: brings us to fentanyl and fentanyl addiction. Of course, the

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Speaker 3: Hacks and Sacraments have no interest in toughening any laws

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Speaker 3: dealing with fentanyl dealing, so we're stuck with people dying.

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Speaker 3: And Southern California News Group did a series of articles

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Speaker 3: on lovely MacArthur Park. Now, when KFI used to be

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Speaker 1: A beautiful park with a very pretty small lake, and

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Speaker 1: I've never understood why they've let it become such a

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Speaker 1: And it's an immigrant community seventy percent or Hispanic Latino

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Speaker 3: San Francisco is on track to have about one hundred

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Speaker 3: One of our biggest guests this year was Sam Canonis,

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Speaker 3: just three days away, because we were both not here

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Speaker 3: last Friday.

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Speaker 2: You can embrace them. I'm not touching that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a symbolic statement.

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Speaker 3: Ition you use the iHeartRadio app to leave us a

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Speaker 3: message the microphone Icona called the toll free number one

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Speaker 3: eight seven seven moist eighty six one seven seven six

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Speaker 3: sixty four seven eight eighty six. The end of cash

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Speaker 3: bell is coming at the end of the month. Steve

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Speaker 3: Gregory will fill us at statewide.

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Speaker 1: This is really bad. Yeah, this is really bad. Here's

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Speaker 1: a teaser. Yeah, guy steals your car, no bail. That

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Speaker 1: is right because that is a non serious, non violent felony.

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Speaker 1: So people are going to steal cars and not spend

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Speaker 1: a minute in Jake. It's just just property. So what hey,

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Speaker 1: let me go, John, what is wrong with you? You

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Speaker 1: must embrace this new society we have do you want

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Speaker 1: to live?

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Speaker 3: Nothing is ownership anymore in Los Angeles County.

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Speaker 2: Your car is open to anybody who wants it.

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Speaker 1: Anybody walking by your house steals your car.

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Speaker 2: Fair game, Get investage, no bail. They're out. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll come back to face whatever consequences.

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Speaker 2: Why would they do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, eventually too, knowing our criminal justice system, it will

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Speaker 3: just be a misdemeanor and a citation. So right, all right,

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Speaker 3: So so auto theft is going to be legal.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: We'll be talking to Steve Gregory after two o'clock on.

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Speaker 2: That's total anarchy, total destruction.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people's jaws dropped over this story. We

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Speaker 3: mentioned yesterday, the F thirty five fighter jet that was

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Speaker 3: worth Now they're saying one hundred million dollars that disappeared.

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Speaker 3: The pilot ejected for still unknown reasons. There was some

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Speaker 3: mishap aboard. This is in South Carolina, by the way,

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Speaker 3: and the jet went missing.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they actually asked the public, did you see

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Speaker 1: an F thirty five fly by your neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: This is the joint base at Charleston, South Carolina. And

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Speaker 3: well they did find it. They're now at the debris

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Speaker 3: field cleaning up, thankfully. It just crashed in the forest. Yes,

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Speaker 3: for twenty eight hours. It was missing right now. It

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Speaker 3: ended up two hours northeast of the Joint Base Charleston.

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Speaker 1: If you leave your phone behind in the restaurant, you

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Speaker 1: can you can find it immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did have a transponder on the jet. They

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Speaker 3: don't know why it didn't work. There was some kind

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Speaker 3: of malfunction had something to do with it. What about

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Speaker 3: before that, after the pilot ejected he should have reported

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Speaker 3: it in I mean, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: Crash for a while. Aren't backups? They don't track these

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Speaker 1: things on. I don't understand this story. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: it's all a lot of people don't. They're asking a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions about the whole program today. What's going

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Speaker 1: on with this?

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Speaker 3: Well, this was the entire F thirty five program is

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Speaker 3: on track to cost nearly two trillion dollars over the

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Speaker 3: lifetime of the plane. So this is very important and

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Speaker 3: they can't figure out why this happened.

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Speaker 1: It's just supposed to be one of our best stealth

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Speaker 1: fighter jets.

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Speaker 3: Considered the most lethal, survivable, and connected fighter jet in

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Speaker 3: the world, is what it is. Uh, did you see

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Speaker 3: the the Babylon b which is just satire. They had

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Speaker 3: a funny headline. Pilots seemed wandering in forest with key

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Speaker 3: fob going beep, beep beep. This is beyond embarrassing. Just

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Speaker 3: now ordered a two day pause and flight operations and

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Speaker 3: no kidding, let's give.

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Speaker 1: You any confidence if we get attacked by China. Let's

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Speaker 1: make you feel good. I have no idea. They're asking

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Speaker 1: people to stay away from the debris field.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: There's also some concerns, according to a story in the

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Speaker 3: Daily Mail, of hacking.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that if a foreign entity was able to hack.

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Speaker 2: It, oh yeah, and figure out how the how it works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these these things operate, and whether or not they

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Speaker 3: could do something about the control of these jets or

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Speaker 3: or whatever. But that would be horrifying if that were true.

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Speaker 3: But there was a story apparently a few years back

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Speaker 3: that there were hacking concerns. They're not saying that anything

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Speaker 3: to do with what happened with this particular jet the

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Speaker 3: other day.

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Speaker 2: But lucky it crashed in a field. I mean this thing, imagine.

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Speaker 3: Imaginef it's it fell in a bunch of houses. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if it fell in a place where there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of people. That would have been huge, huge problem.

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Speaker 1: So it's it says, well, there's there's a and I

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Speaker 1: don't know what this acronym stands for, but there's a

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Speaker 1: watch drug dog group called POGO And according to the email,

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Speaker 1: they had a report in twenty nineteen that said nearly

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Speaker 1: every software enabled weapon system that they tested between twenty

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Speaker 1: twelve and twenty seventeen can be hacked, including the F

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Speaker 1: thirty five. Despite years of patches and upgrades, the F

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Speaker 1: thirty five's most combat crucial computer systems continue to malfunction.

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Speaker 2: Not good. Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: It says that cybersecurity testing shows that many previously confirmed

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Speaker 1: vulnerabilities have not been fixed, so enemy hackers could shut

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Speaker 1: down the network, steal secret data from on board computers,

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Speaker 1: and prevent it from flying.

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Speaker 3: Wow, the Russians, who knows what? All the hackers of

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Speaker 3: the world. What kind of boobs do we have run

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Speaker 3: in the military here? Does anything work anymore?

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Speaker 1: It seems like nothing works.

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Speaker 3: I just believe that the way things are now, if

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Speaker 3: something can be hacked, there's probably at there they can

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Speaker 3: hack it. There's just so many people on the in

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Speaker 3: the world who are working at this stuff, just even

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Speaker 3: as a hobby.

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Speaker 1: They should hack their way into things. We should go

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Speaker 1: back to the old system. Yeah, we need to go

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Speaker 1: back to the system where we don't have so much

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Speaker 1: reliance on computers and software and technology, and that that

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Speaker 1: could end up becoming the day.

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Speaker 2: How come the offense always wins.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like we have defense either either the

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Speaker 1: government or corporations. Whenever these outside hackers want to do damage,

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Speaker 1: they do it. They get away with everything.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: When we return, we're going to talk about what's coming.

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Speaker 3: On October first, Los Angeles County will have new zero

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Speaker 3: bail guidelines. Again, this is part of the agenda to

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Speaker 3: make sure people do not go to jail, even for

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Speaker 3: a short period of time after they've been arrested for

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Speaker 3: a crime before they are actually judged. So we'll get

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Speaker 3: the latest on this from Steve Gregory. Can't find news

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Speaker 3: when we come back. No bail for stealing your car?

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Speaker 1: Johnny Kensher Deborah Mark cast the news CAFI AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you've been listening to the John and ken Show.

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Speaker 3: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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