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Speaker 1: That is the question, and this podcast will give us

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Speaker 1: the answers. This is Mark Moss, your host. Let's get

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Speaker 1: this started. Welcome to another episode of the Market Disruptors podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are all about extracting value from some of the

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Speaker 1: and that means that we find other people that are successful.

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Speaker 1: We find out what they did to be successful. We

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Speaker 1: Market Disruptors podcast is all about that. Taking the biggest

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