1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, NAMG. Marcus Grant, 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated and dodging the delta like Neo in the matrix. Uh, 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: We've got another big show for you today as we 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: continue our cavalcade of fantasy stars throughout the off season. 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Although the off season getting short, uh, the regular season 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: is approaching very quickly. But three guys with us today. 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: If you've been playing fantasy football at all for any 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: length of time, you know these guys. Uh. They have 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: done an excellent job. They have built something just amazing. 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: It's great to have them. I love watching them do 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: their thing and interacting with them on social media. Individually. 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: They are Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Right, but 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: you know them as the fantasy footballers. Fellas. Appreciate you 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: being here. Uh. I hear that it is humid in 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: the desert, which is making my brainage. How does that work? 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: It's uh number one, Thank you for having us on always. 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Uh always fun to jump on with our good friend 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Marcus here. But it's it's monsoon season, which is that's 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: called the rain pump fake? Yeah, that's not everyone realizes 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: in the in the desert, it does rain, and this 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: is it picks the hottest time of the year to 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: actually do that. So it like, I mean, the other 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: day we were at a hundred plus degrees fifty plus 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: percent humidity, Arizona doing its best impression of Florida and 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: it's just miserable. Not a great time. You go outside 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: and it's doing that. Yeah, oh that's awful. Yeah. I 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: know I have friends who live, you know, out that way, 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: and I know I've heard about the rainstorms, like the massive, 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: massive rainstorms. Um and Bob. Let's say what's worse, the 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: haboob or the rainstorms. We we have some people new 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to the valley here that work for us, and they 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: experienced their first hi boob the other day, and I 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: think it was pretty jarring for the which is a 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: giant dust storm for people. If you don't know what 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about words, try to remember the Mummy where 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the wall of sand magically appears. That's a real thing 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: here in the desert. I know, basically it is a 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: dust storm, but I just feel like it's much more 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: fun to say the word haboob. Yeah, and that was 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: that's new to be to be fair, in the last 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: few years have we've been calling it's been a dust 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: storm out here for a while. Now it's like, Bob, 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: we grew up. We're actually native to Arizona and this 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: was I mean, like the last ten years, I didn't 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: know what it was. But now everyone calls it a haboo. 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: But it was just a dust storm before. It's just 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: it's just good work by their PR team, you know, absolutely, 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: So shout out to the big, big, big shout out 50 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: to the book for mention this happened. Um. So, you know, 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: as I've as I've had guest on, especially the last 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: few weeks, I've sort of been asking people about their 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: journeys within the fantasy industry and that's where thing and 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: so you guys, um, you know, like a lot of 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of people who have broken into this 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: kind of started off as hobbyists. I know, you were 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: doing the podcast just sort of for a group of 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: friends and it has turned into what has has turned into, 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Andy, for you, when did you realize this 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: was going to be more than just a hobby. I 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: think it was when we were refreshing download numbers in 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: the middle of our real estate class because Jason and 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: I went to school. We had been worked together for 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: years at a game design studio that he ran and owned, 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: and we decided, Hey, let's get into real estate. We'll 66 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: do this podcast thing. Who knows, who knows, maybe we'll 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: make a few bucks on this side. And we're sitting 68 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: there in the middle of class. We should have been 69 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: paying attention to some Arizona State real estate law thing 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: or something, and we're just refreshing numbers, going like, what 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: is happening? People are listening to this show. And then 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: at that point we're like, well, we've got to give 73 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: it everything we got. We gotta give it full time. Convinced, 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: convinced all of the wives to be gracious to us 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: and give us that time. And um so we jumped 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: in full boring and have ridden the way for the 77 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: last six years. Let's say, Jason, what what was it 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: like convincing the wife, convincing the fanly, Hey, you know what, 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna stop all this other stuff. We're just gonna 80 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: talk about fantasy football for a living. You know, we 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: we are really blessed to have great wives. It was 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: there was no convincing necessary. Um I you know, I 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: could speak for myself. She has always been a great 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: believer in uh in me, and so it was just like, 85 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: let's let's go, let's do it. No convincing. And so 86 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: I would recommend if if you're out there and you're like, 87 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: I want to start this, how do I? I would 88 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: get a wife like mine. I think that's really important. 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Get a great wife who will sport yours not mine. 90 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: No seats taken, um, So yeah, I would. I would 91 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: go ahead and find a great wife to help you 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: along the road. A seat. It's it's a classic Forest 93 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Gump Lie oh man, I mean, Mike, for you, I mean, 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: what what has been the most eye opening part of 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: this Let me just go from again a hobbyist to 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: where you guys are now there what what kind of 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: shook you up and surprised you the most? Uh? That 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: people care what we have to say, Like it's it's 99 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: and it's always weird that you know people are listening, 100 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: right you see download metrics and you so you can 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: follow that. You could see your podcast moving around in 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: the charts and like that's that's really exciting. But it's 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: still us. I mean when we started was just the 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: three of us. Now we are uh we got a 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: great team that we've expanded upon, but even with with 106 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: the two producers back there, it's just the five of us. 107 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: That's who. Here's the podcast to me. And then you actually, 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: like you find out people tweet you, uh something that 109 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: I forgot I said and was just a throwaway line. 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, I guess there's like actual humans 111 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: out there who are consuming the content and it's not 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: just us idiots shouting at each other in a in 113 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: a warehouse. I would say if there was like a 114 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: second point where the realization hit, it would have been 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: like when we did our first live show, because even 116 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: though you know you have you know, hundreds of thousands 117 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: of people listening, somehow being in a room with like 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: three hundred fanatical fantasy football fans for our first live show, 119 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: like these guys both teared up. If you go back 120 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: and watching that first Minnesota live show, that the introim 121 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: music is going, the crowd is screaming and they don't 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: stop for too long, and I am like keeping together here, 123 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: just like it took me a good thirty seconds to 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: just make sure I wasn't crying to start that show. Yeah, yeah, 125 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: I think that's that is kind of the amazing part 126 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: is I think putting the real life faces uh to 127 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: the numbers of that. Um, yeah, I think that that is. 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: I know that you kind of on our end too, 129 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: just you know, you sort of meet the people out there. 130 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: It does kind of put a whole new spin to 131 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: the thing. And they and they they build you know, 132 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: with podcasting specifically, a lot of routines are built around 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: when people listen to so you start to learn that 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: you've been like in the car with people. I'm sure 135 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: you guys have heard this, where you know, they've listened 136 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: to you every day on their commute for two years, 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: so they know you very very well, and then all 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden you meet them in person and they 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: know all these things about you and you have a 140 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: relationship you didn't know, almost a one on one relationship 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: you didn't know you had. Yeah, it is, it's it's 142 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of cool. It's a little bit I would say 143 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: it's it's sort of disarmy, but it's very cool. Um, 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna you guys have probably experienced this too, right. 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: I always go back to the first time you talk 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: about learning people are listening. The first time we ever 147 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: did a listener league um and and drafting with people 148 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: who listened to the show and who know all your 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: takes and who know the players you like. Uh, and 150 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: watching our heads spin as guys that we thought we 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: could wait around or two on that we thought were 152 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: sleepers were getting snatched up because we're drafting with people 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: who know everything we think. Uh that was that was 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: That was still a shocker for me. People do that 155 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: in our listener leagues, like because we we have a huge, 156 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: huge chat going, people intentionally do that. It's not like 157 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: and it's not all someone's name popped off the list. 158 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: It's it's up. I see Mike's up intent picks Joy 159 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: this and Tonio Gibson in the fourth round. Oh man, Yeah, 160 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's hilarious. It's frustrating from a just a 161 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: competitive standpoint, but it is very cool to know that 162 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: people are actually sort of taking your words to heart 163 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. And speaking of which, though, I mean 164 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: andy for for people who are trying to maybe build 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: something from the ground up, because I feel like we've 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: seen a lot of it, especially in the last year 167 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: with the pandemic, a lot of people really kind of 168 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: turning their attention to this what sort of advice could 169 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: you give people who are you know, just kind of 170 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: starting this out and looking to build something big. Yeah, 171 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: it's a great question, and we've gotten that a lot 172 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: over the years, and I go back to a kind 173 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: of singular answer that I think is crucial, which is 174 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: just having like being yourself and having your own voice 175 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: and not trying to mimic or impersonate somebody else that 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: you see in the industry. Everyone has kind of uh 177 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: I guess roll mo. Those are people that you know, 178 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: like Dan Patrick would be one for me where it's 179 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: like you see what he did and the way he 180 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: does it and you admire that. But we didn't start 181 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: this podcast saying hey, I'm gonna be uh Dan Patrick 182 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: or Matthew Berry or or anybody that already was in 183 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: the space. I think if you're true to yourself, then 184 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: people connect to the authentic part of you, and that's 185 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: the connection building, Like you can't connect with somebody that's 186 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: being in authentic. So um, that's kind of the biggest 187 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: advice I give to anybody is that if you're true 188 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: to who you are personality wise, whatever kind of niche 189 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: might be your specialty in the space, that's your best 190 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: odds because it's competitive, right, there's a lot of people 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: that want to do what we do, UM and break 192 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: into the space. But I think that's the only way 193 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: you can succeed. No, I would, I would completely agree, 194 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: And I think I think that's sort of the baseline. 195 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: I know when I when I've asked other people, UM, 196 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: that tends to be the response, and I think that 197 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: is probably the truest way to do it, especially as 198 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned, any space that has become high for competitive 199 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: especially in the last five years, especially the last year. 200 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: So so definitely definitely all right, So you know, let's 201 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: talk some some football, some fantasy football, because that's what 202 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: the people came for. UM. Start with the news that 203 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: that came down just a few hours before we started 204 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: recording this podcast, Cam Akers from the Los Angeles Rams 205 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: suffered a torn achilles while he was training. He is 206 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: going to miss the season. UM. This is one of 207 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: my least favorite parts of this job, is sort of 208 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: having to, you know, talk about kind of what comes 209 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: next after a guy suffers a major injury. Alas it 210 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: is part of the job. It's what we do. UM. 211 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Jason, as you sit here and you look 212 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: at this now, what do the Rams do next? I mean, 213 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: do they just turn to Darrell Henderson full time? Do 214 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: you think they make a move? What what happens in 215 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: that that l a backfield. I know that Adam Schefter 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: recently said they're not looking at the veteran marketplace, and 217 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't fully believe that. Um, I don't. They have 218 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot of bodies there, but I don't think they 219 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: have good enough bodies. Darryl Henderson does become the next 220 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: man up. He had that opportunity for a couple of 221 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: games last year and he was a low end RB 222 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: one during that stretch. He's going to be the guy. 223 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: I think they bring someone else in. Maybe it's via 224 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the trade market, um, not the free agent veteran market, 225 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: but um otherwise, Xavier Jones is a name that's being 226 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: popped up right now on a lot of Dynasty leagues 227 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: of an undrafted rookie from last year that Aaron Donald like. 228 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: But I believe it's the Darryl Henderson show and he's 229 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, to me, a top twenty 230 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: running back. I had cam Akers as my running back 231 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: six I was extreme in on cam Akers, So I 232 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: was devastated this morning to to hear the news, especially 233 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: because of this specific injury. Um Achilles very difficult to 234 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: come back from. This could be a career ender for him, 235 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: not just a delay in the breakout. So for now, 236 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: I think it's Darryl Henderson, and I think he'll succeed 237 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: for the most part with that job. But um, the 238 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: only other thing I'd add to that is the way 239 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: that I started the teams out when I looked at 240 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: making my changes. I think this is an uptick slightly 241 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford and for the receiving game for Tyler Higbee. Um, 242 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna throw the ball a little bit 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: more because I expect Sean McVeigh to go to where 244 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: their strengths are in personnel and and they're weaker now 245 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: at running back and that will force their hand to 246 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: throw the ball a little bit more. I know people 247 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: like like to speculate because it's you know, it's what 248 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: social media does. I mean, like I've seen, uh, you know, 249 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: a Todd Gurley reunion speculated about Adrian Peterson, Levy on Bell. 250 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: I mean, any of those names do anything for you 251 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: if they come back the lot or come to Los Angeles. Yeah, 252 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: you freak out. I mean, we need Freek because Frenk 253 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Freank Gord has to stay in the NFL long enough 254 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: for his son to be in the NFL. So I 255 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: lose that. Yeah, we're all for that. And any of 256 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: those names listed, Yes, they do excite me. For Darryl 257 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Henderson to really have like to have the lock in. 258 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's basically the watch that we are 259 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: on right now. I'm with Jason, I don't believe you 260 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: aren't looking at the market right now. When your your 261 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: backups are undrafted players, in seventh round players, you need 262 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: to make sure you have someone behind Henderson as like 263 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: he has struggled to stay on the field himself. You 264 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: need to have some depth at the position. So we're 265 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: on the watch what level of backup comes in. If 266 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: it's one of those names you were talking about, then yeah, 267 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: that's that's no problem. But the Rams and McVeigh there, 268 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: they're crazy people over there, man. They will they will 269 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: throw their draft capital at anything. So don't get James Robinson. 270 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: So James Robinson kareem hunt. I mean, like, there are 271 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: names out there that would not surprise you in the 272 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: least if they end up on the Rams and if 273 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: they do, that creates a messy situation. That's not what 274 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to project. I think one of the guys 275 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: on the street will end up backing up Darryl Henderson 276 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: and and he's gonna be very exciting. He will skyrocket too, 277 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: probably the third round in in fantasy drafts. Yeah, soun's 278 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: gonna mean I'll gonna ask you that, Andy. I mean, 279 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: obviously we're not drafting Darryl Henderson the way we were 280 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: drafting Cam Akers. Um, but third round, I mean, does 281 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: that feel right to you? Yeah? I think it will 282 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: depend a little bit on what training camp looks like, 283 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: in his health and what people are seeing at the 284 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: rest of the depth chart in in Los Angeles. So 285 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: I my initial first pass going through these numbers and 286 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: projecting this out, he's in the you know, back into 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: RB two range. For me, I'm not overly ambitious yet. Um, 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I think that the Drumbeats gonna 289 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: get louder and louder into the season. Um, just with 290 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: the excitement on this offense and with what people expected 291 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: from Cam Akers and and like Jason said, Henderson has 292 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: had some success. He just needs to stay healthy. Yeah, 293 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be to be key there, so interesting 294 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: to watch. Uh, you know, best wishes to cam Akers 295 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: for a speedy, hopefully full recovery. So look forward to 296 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: seeing it because what he did at the end of 297 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: last year was a lot of fun to watch. So definitely, yeah, 298 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, best wishes to him and trying to get better. Um, 299 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: speaking of getting healthy, se Quon Barkley is still working 300 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: and Mikey has not been very clear about when he's 301 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna be able to practice back on the field. How 302 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: worried should we be about se Juan situation? I I 303 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: think you should be at least hesitant. Uh, there's a 304 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: lot of you know, speaking of like a a position 305 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: that has popped up recently, injury docks on Twitter and 306 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: like and there's there's some rough things, but there is 307 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: actually really good advice out there. Uh. We have our 308 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: own guy. His name is Matthew Betts. He's at the 309 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: Fantasy PTS. To shout out to him doing incredible work 310 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: with us uh for the show and inside of our 311 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Ultimate Draft kit. But he talked about se Kwan and 312 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: that there should be at least a little bit of 313 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: hesitancy when you have especially you have a player like 314 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the player, the one who is supposed to be the 315 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: most optimistic about his return. Don't no doubt I'll be 316 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: back week one. I'm gonna dominate. This guy's like, I 317 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what's going on right now. 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: And on top of that, the work will be there. 319 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: But I mean, with with that, with the Giants offense, 320 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: with the that offensive line, with the small sample at 321 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: least that we've seen of Daniel Jones not targeting him 322 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: the way that we got used to Eli Manning throwing 323 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: checkdowns to uh to set kuon Barkley. Should he just 324 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: automatically be locked into a top five draft pick this year? 325 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: And I leaned that he should not. I mean, I 326 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: was very much about having him as a top two 327 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: or three guy. This has sort of changed my mind 328 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: about it. Um. I mean, but Jason, if he's not there, 329 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: if he's not ready to go, is this is better 330 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: news for Daniel Jones and his cadre of past catchers. 331 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Is there somebody else in that backfield that you know 332 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: he's worth taking a shot at right now? No, there's 333 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: definitely no one else in the backfield worth taking a 334 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: shot at. And this is bad news. For the Giants. 335 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: I think he will be ready for Week one, but 336 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be at Quan. Uh. The timeline that 337 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: we already knew about because this was a c L, 338 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: this was mc L and meniscus. He had to wait 339 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: until October to get the surgery, even though the injury 340 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: was early last year. So the timeline we already knew 341 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be it was gonna be tight. We already 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: knew that. So this is kind of like it's new 343 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: information because it's fresh, But we just have to remind 344 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: ourselves we expected him to be their week one, but 345 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: not very soon before that, and it will probably be 346 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: halfway through the season before he's at peak uh se 347 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: Quan strength. So he's more of a trade target versus 348 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: someone that I'm spending that third pick overall um, you know, 349 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: and and in the meantime while he is gone, I 350 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: just don't think that helps anyone fantasy wise. Kenny Golladay 351 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: is gonna have fewer touchdown opportunities if the ball is 352 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: not moving well. Daniel Jones will have less of the 353 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: Drew Brees padded stats are just checking it down to 354 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: a phenomenal running back. So no, it's it's just bad 355 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: news if he's not out there. But I do think 356 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: he'll be out there week one. The the positive for 357 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: me is that I have terrible draft position luck, so 358 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm never really in position to get so that issue 359 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: is even taken out of my hands. I haven't had 360 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: to worry about that so much. Um more running back stuff. 361 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: I guess so Sa Kwan the other day. I don't 362 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: know if you saw he announced his re entry I 363 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: guess into the quad squad. But a J. Dillon, Uh, 364 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, he he announced himself with authority last year 365 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: and sort of re up this year. I don't know 366 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: if the Packers saw that, but they have said they 367 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: want to lean on A. J. Dillon Moore. Um, maybe 368 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: they are just impressed that he doesn't skip leg day Andy. 369 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: But my question is, why don't they want Aaron Jones 370 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: to be great? Well, I think we've seen I think 371 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: they want Aaron Jones to be great. But it's the 372 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: same way that the Saints want Alvin Camaro to be great. 373 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: You've always needed another back and um, we just we 374 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: just don't get very many of the Christian McCaffrey every 375 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: snap situations in the NFL anymore. And Aaron Jones is 376 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: so hyper efficient and effective in what he does that um, 377 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, we we If you're an Aaron Jones man, 378 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: you want him to get every snap and get the 379 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: ball on every play. And that's just not the NFL. 380 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: And and Dylan is a a viable bruiser that will 381 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: give Aaron Jones the ability to to you know, we 382 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: might be happy right like you don't. You can never 383 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: prove what you don't get to see. But the efficiency 384 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: would go down to Aaron Jones was out there on 385 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: every single play all the time. And uh, you know 386 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: it's the It's the Latavius Murray to the Alvin Camarra 387 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: to me. And it hasn't hurt Aaron Jones thus far, 388 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: like Jamal Williams was. Uh, it was still involved, where 389 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: very involved. Where you have the trade off of if 390 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: at least what you would think and project, not that 391 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: aj Dilon is is really a slouch when it comes 392 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: to catching the ball. He's actually better than people realize, 393 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: especially for a man of his stature. But if you're 394 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna swing some of the work, you're gonna swing more 395 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: of the Receptions to Aaron Jones. I mean, we you 396 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: saw Jamal out there frequently on like the two minute 397 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: drill or on passing downs and taking over that. If 398 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: more of that goes to Aaron Jones for fantasy, that's 399 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: that's a boost. Go ahead, take away three or four 400 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: carries from Aaron Jones per week. You're gonna give him 401 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: two more targets. I'm not I'm not changing anything about 402 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: how I feel about Aaron Jones after this latest Ajdalon stuff. 403 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: Far more concerned about the status of Aaron Rodgers than 404 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: the status. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the big one. 405 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: And I think Andy, you made an interesting point to 406 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: about the efficiency potentially going down. It is. I guess 407 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: what I call the Lamar Miller conundrum in that all 408 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: all those years we begged, and I was certainly among 409 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: them the people who begged for Lamar Miller to get 410 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: more work and to the world, you know, and he 411 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: gets You can't just put those stats out there with 412 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: the big workload. Yeah, you know exactly. He gets somewhere 413 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: else and he gets that work and he's still just oatmeal, right, 414 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: but he's just fine. Um, you know, I'm like, all right, well, okay, 415 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: so maybe I was wrong on that one. So maybe 416 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I should be careful what I wish for 417 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: for for Aaron Jones, sorry, don't don't leave, you know, 418 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: just leave well enough alone. Everything's fine. Maybe we shouldn't 419 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: we shouldn't push too hard on that one. Um, I 420 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: had some questions. I've been going through and going by 421 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: position and kind of asking my guests about some question 422 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: marks I have. At certain positions, you guys draw the 423 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: short straw and you get tight ends because you know, sorry, 424 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: perfect Sorry. We'd go with Kelsey Travis the fall on 425 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: the Kelsey versus Kelsey because that that blew my mind, 426 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: which his mom already shut it down. Yeah, he was 427 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: troll and he was just trolling everybody good. Even if 428 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't, I was not willing to make a change. 429 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: I was going to I was going to stick with 430 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: the lifetime Kelsey. Right. We have been here for a 431 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: while now, it's too late to go back, and it's 432 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: right statue momentations. All right, So let's start, though, Mike. 433 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: Let's start with with Kyle pitts Uh. You know. The 434 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: it's like it's almost like if you look at his 435 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: birth certificate, his middle name on there says unicorn, because 436 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: that's how everybody refers to him. Um, I have seen 437 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: he has already bumped up to the tight end four 438 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: after your big three there is. Are you comfortable with that? 439 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Are we overdrafting him? I'm I'm okay with it. I 440 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: do not have him at four. Uh, you know I 441 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: would take Mark before I do so, I would still 442 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: take Marky andrews Um. The The difficult two guys for 443 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: me would be the potential breakout for T. J. Hawkinson, 444 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: which Jason is is all aboard that I'm still hesitant, 445 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: and Dallas Goddard, who I think is about to have 446 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: just an absolute smash season. So do you take a 447 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: unknown player that when you see them on the field 448 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: and you know that when they have opportunity they will 449 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: be great, or do you just project moving forward that 450 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: this this absolute monster of a man with athletic profiling 451 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: that we just you don't see like he's he's Vernon 452 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Davis like we are. We're back baby, and yeah he 453 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: can be right. He could be arrested right now, Like 454 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: when you go and you look watching the athletic measurables 455 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: not safe for work when it comes to this and 456 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: not only that, where you get excited for some first 457 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: round tight ends, the situation couldn't possibly be better for 458 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. He goes to uh A, the yardage King, 459 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, the they just lost their superstar number one 460 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but they have another one in waiting in 461 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: the wings. So it's not just Kyle Pitch. You have 462 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley who's going to be fantastic. You can't just 463 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: the defense can't can't just settle and cover Kyle Pitts. 464 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: So when it comes to four, just to get back 465 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: to the question, perfectly fine with it because tight end 466 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: is all about drafting upside. Kyle Pitts can finish as 467 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: a top three tight end for fantasy football, but what 468 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: is he it's and so it comes down to the 469 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: opportunity cost where is he going in the I'll just 470 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: chime in real quick because I disagree completely with I don't, 471 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't disagree with most of what's Ben said. 472 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: The situation is perfect as athletic measurables are outstanding, and 473 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: he will be a talented player. I think we are 474 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: way over drafting him right now because what we're doing 475 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: is we're just saying we hope that somehow rookie season 476 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: he ends up becoming a George Kittler Travis Kelsey. There's 477 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: some really difference making tighten that's not happening his rookie year. 478 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: I would be blown away if that happens. If he 479 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: has the best rookie wide receivers season since two thousand, 480 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: he would tie. He would basically be last year's Logan Thomas, 481 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: which is not what you're wanting. In the fifth round. 482 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: He basically has to have the best, the best tight 483 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: end rookie season of all time just to meet where 484 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 1: he's being drafted. The players I'm taking over Kyle Pitts 485 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: aren't tight ends because of where he's going in a draft. 486 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm taking Deante Johnson and Tyler Lockett and Cooper Cup 487 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: and known commodities at wide receiver versus the hope that 488 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: he does something that has never been done before and 489 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: and if you've got to make, you know, probability shots 490 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: of who could do it. Well, sure he's very talented, 491 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: but I think I think people are drinking too much 492 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: kool aid too much just to complete the trifecta. Here. 493 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: This is where I yesterday on the show, I've I've 494 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: made complete piece with saying I believe Kyle Pitts will 495 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: have the greatest rookie season of a tight end ever. 496 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: Like Jason is not wrong metric wise, but but but 497 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm moving beyond that and saying I think col Pits 498 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: will have the best rookie season ever. He's the highest 499 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: drafted tight end ever. He's going to the all the 500 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: arguments that Mike made, including a long history of Matt 501 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: Ryan turning tight ends into gold, whether it was his 502 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: time with Tony Gonzalez. So so I am I'm formally 503 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: saying that, yes, I would be drafting him in the 504 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: fifth round to be a league winning player for my team. Now, 505 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: if you do not believe that that probability is sufficient, 506 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: then do exactly what Jason says. It is your you 507 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: have to make that decision on him. A league winning 508 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: tight end in the fifth round is worth more than 509 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson period. But if he doesn't do it, then 510 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: you're you're more vulnerable to you know, obviously having a 511 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: weakness on your on your roster. So that I mean, 512 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't have him above Kittle, I don't have him 513 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: above Um Waller Kelsey. But I haven't be for I 514 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: So I haven't taken shot because I have been of 515 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: the persuasion that I'm going to take that early shot 516 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: on Kelsey or Waller or Kittle and just sort of 517 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: take the headache away from myself. But if I'm following 518 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: your your logic Andy here, because it's it. It's like 519 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: one of those motivational posters, right like if you shoot 520 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: for the moon and you come up short, you reach 521 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: the stars, you're still fine, right, I mean, is that 522 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: sort of kind of how you're looking at that? Yeah? 523 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: I think so. And I think you have a I 524 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: think you do have a pretty high rookie floor for 525 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. So I don't think you're going like he's 526 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: going to be your starting tight end in the fifth 527 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: round no matter what, Like you're not going to be 528 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: pivoting away from him. You do have the whatever percentage 529 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: chance of of being a difference making tight end. But 530 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I think you have solved the tight end position in 531 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: the fifth round, all right, that's fair. I mean, like 532 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I said, I I think he's gonna be great. I 533 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: had a feeling he was going to, you know, shoot 534 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: up in the a DP, and especially once Julio left, 535 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: it just seemed sort of inevitable, no doubt. Um, So 536 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm curious to see how high it gets 537 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: if he if he even goes knocking on the door 538 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: of number three, because I wouldn't be surprised that that 539 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: would be a problem for me at that point. I 540 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: think I think so too, But I wouldn't be surprised 541 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: if somebody out there does that, because you know, it's 542 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: just bound to happen. It's going to be a fun 543 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: narrative throughout the year for our SOO in particular because uh, 544 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, maybe the historical stats are on Jason's side here, 545 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: but um, if I am somehow right, I will end 546 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: the end of it ever, so it'll be fun. All right. Well, Jason, 547 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you sort of stand your ground here 548 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: on t J. Hockinson because I have wavered on him. 549 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: I was really excited about him early. I have sort of, 550 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: uh you know, been a little more hesitant recently. So 551 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: explain to me why I should be, you know, all 552 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: in on on t J. Hockinson. Well, so, I I 553 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: think t J. Hawkinson, I've got him as my tight 554 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: end four. Um, and and there needs context there. Here's 555 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: why he's my tight end four. And here's why I 556 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be good. He is easily the best 557 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: pass catcher there. The Tyrelle Williams, Brashad Perriman, they are 558 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: They're not anything special. This is a team that needs 559 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 1: a guy to come in and have a large target 560 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: market share. And if you look back at you know, 561 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: basically every single year and the best tight ends they 562 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: are one of, you know, usually two targets. You've got 563 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Kelsey and you've got you know, Tyreek, You've got Mark Andrews, 564 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: who even in a small pie was great because he 565 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: had so much of it there there weren't other options. 566 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, we know has has had success throwing to 567 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: tight end. He's not he's not great, but he's not 568 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: a you know, he's not you know Sam Donald going 569 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers and we're like, man, I don't 570 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: even know if he can throw a three percent touchdown, right, 571 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: So the opportunity is there. The talent he was, you know, 572 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: he was drafted high for a reason in the NFL Draft, 573 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: and he's shown well, he's he's he's uh. Outside of 574 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: a couple of drops, he's had a good career for 575 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the first few years of a tight end. So that's 576 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: why I think he's the tight end four this year, 577 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that I'm drafting him like I 578 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't see him as a true difference maker. The 579 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: way that those elites, those top three are and the 580 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: way that I approach fantasy is I'm usually grabbing one 581 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: of those top three or punting and going super late 582 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: with the Tyler Higbee because of the opportunity costs. I 583 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: think the tight end four is not worth a second 584 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver on my team. So genuinely, I want to 585 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: ask him a question, if you don't mind, I'm just 586 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm the captain, just just because I know that our 587 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: most current adp Hawkinson and Pitts are going directly back 588 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: to back in the fifth round. So if if you 589 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: are forced, because I know what you're saying, if you're 590 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: forced to take a tighten there, are you taking Hawkinson 591 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: for your team? Are you taking Pits because of the 592 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: do you view him as having a higher ceiling. I 593 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: do not not rookie year in general for a career, definitely. 594 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: If this is a dynasty league, It's not even close. 595 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: But I would take Hawkinson over Pits if I had 596 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: to take one in that where they right now, the 597 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: fifth round all right back to you, Marcus, all right, cool, 598 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: I think, but that brings about another question that I 599 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: just sort of had. I just put this out to 600 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: you guys in general, in a dynasty league, a dynasty startup, 601 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: is it nuts to to take Kyle Pitts is the 602 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: number one overall pick start up? Startup? I think it's okay, say, 603 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: let's say dynasty, maybe not a start up, but okay, 604 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's nuts if you view like there's 605 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of variability in those top few 606 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: picks in terms of success rate. I mean, we saw 607 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: to kill Harry going off the board number one. Um, 608 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: you have Corey Davis's recent history. Uh, So I don't 609 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: think it's nuts because I think if you look at 610 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: the landscape of rookies longevity and say, who do I know, 611 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: who do I believe is going to have a successful 612 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: NFL career, I think it'd be hard to not say 613 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: that Kyle PiZZ is at the top of that list 614 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: as the resident UM same person on Kyle Pitts here, UM, 615 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: I would also agree with that. I would say that 616 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: there's is not insane too, you know, and I've and 617 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: I've changed on on that as the as time has 618 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: gone on from the NFL Draft, he has every bit 619 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: a chance to be a more successful uh NFL player 620 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: over the next five years as Nagi Harris as Jamaar Chase. So, 621 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: I think he is in the mix, and it's not 622 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: crazy if you wanted to make him the best rookie 623 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: this year. All right, Uh cool, I was just I'm 624 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: just taking a pole an unofficial poll on that one. 625 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: Um IRV Smith. The hashtag let irv swerve started to 626 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: circulate at last year. What are you who's circulating that 627 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: you haven't seen? You never saw me? Let her let 628 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: her swerve hashtag? Oh yeah, man, it's just because good 629 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: um So? I mean, but okay, I mean Jason said 630 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: he would you know, he prefers to wait. If he 631 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: doesn't get one of the big guys early, he will 632 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: wait until later. I think IRV Smith sort of fits 633 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: in that. I mean, Mike, do you think that you 634 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: know now with with Kyle Rudolph elsewhere, that this is 635 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: the chance for if Smith to be a thing in fantasy. 636 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly has a chance. I had to 637 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: watch Championship Week as multiple times the Minnesota Vikings were 638 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: lined up on the goal line, and I needed my 639 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: sweet sweet Prince Dalvin Cook to get a real easy touchdown, 640 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: only to see it turned into a play action fake 641 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: and freaking IRV Smith catching every single touchdown they scored 642 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: that week. Uh, he has the chance, but he's not 643 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: the late round He's not the type of late round 644 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: target or tight end that night target because he can't 645 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: rise to be the number two options in the passing 646 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: game with with the emergence of Justin Jefferson, Adam Theeland 647 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: still there. Who I'm I'm nervous personally about Adam Feland 648 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: being a uh losing losing a step, but he's still 649 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: going to be the number two option in the passing game. 650 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: And then Galvin Cook working himself in there. IRV IRV 651 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: is gonna top out at like four maybe five. If 652 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: if you've got five targets a game for IRV Smith 653 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: this year, I think you should be really really happy. 654 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think that turns into difference making production. 655 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: He's absolutely in play, uh week to week on a 656 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: on a streaming basis, if you see a great matchup 657 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: for him, but he's not the late round tight and 658 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: tight end that I'm going to target, all Right, that's fair. 659 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I've gotten My issue with the Vikings 660 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: passing game is generally that it is tend that you 661 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: focus through two guys as long as Kirk Cousins has 662 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: been there. I mean, at first it was Feeling and 663 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. Now it's Feeling and Justin Jefferson, and it 664 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't leave I think a lot of room for 665 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: anybody else, But I since the excitement. Maybe it's because 666 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: we're always just trying to you know, we're thirsty for 667 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: tight ends waiting. I didn't know. I didn't know swerving 668 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: was like a good thing, right, Like that's a swerve 669 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: to dodge something, dodge trouble. Right, you're serving out of trouble, 670 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: dodging the football drive a straight line. And this is 671 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: a bad problem. And it was on top of that, 672 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: like looking at last year, Kirk Cousins had himself an 673 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: outlier year at least for his Minnesota Vikings stats of 674 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: putting up thirty five passing touchdowns he threw. He was 675 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown on six point eight percent of his attempts, 676 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: where like before that it was thirty touchdowns twenty six 677 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: So it was even with that, it wasn't turning into 678 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: tight end production for that team. I think it's like 679 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: when Kyle Rudolph had a couple of relevant years finishing 680 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: inside the top ten. It was you know, seven or eight, 681 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: and it was on seven or eight touchdowns. It was 682 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: not high volume. So, UM, be interesting to see what happens. 683 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: Let him swerve, Let him swerve, let him swerve, Let 684 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: earth swerve. I guarantee you know to see it at 685 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: some point this year, uh, Andy, last one? Here? Does 686 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: zach Ertz have to leave Philly in order to stay relevant? 687 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz needs the DeLorean to stay relevant fantasy, he 688 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: needs a time machine. Um, I don't think at this 689 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: point he's going someplace to be a focal point in 690 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: the offense. I think that that ship has sailed. And 691 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: that's what you would need, I think, to uh to 692 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: have any excitement. So can he go? He might go 693 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: and help an NFL team, genuinely more than he helps 694 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: a fantasy team where he can go and and uh, 695 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, be a possession late career Jason Witten. But 696 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: give you late career Jason Witten fantasy numbers. A couple 697 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: years ago, Jason Witten was like the tight end what 698 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: ten or eleven and all he didn't catch the ball 699 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: and exactly the model that he will be imitating. Yeah, yeah, 700 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean who else? Maybe there's a reunion Carson Wentz 701 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Frank reich Zacher that could happen Indianapolis, that could happen, right, happen? Yeah? 702 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: I would I boo that though, because I need moa 703 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: Alei Cox to be awesome for for what reason? Because 704 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I love there well. Our our journey with moa Alei 705 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: Cox began a couple of years ago. I did. I 706 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: had no idea who he was, but we're watching all 707 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: the games and it was who is this man? And 708 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: how is he three feet bigger than everybody else on 709 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: the football field? And then you just you follow his 710 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,479 Speaker 1: career here and watching him catch the ball, it's it's 711 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: like the size of a p It's a biting nerve, 712 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: it's a key chain football like it has become Laura 713 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: now in this studio too, he has gotten bigger by 714 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: the day pounds. We refer to him as gigant or 715 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: And if we're coming up with with just fun rhymes 716 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: like what let Cox rocks? Yeah, I mean, we'll work 717 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: shopping those pr issues. But you know, what connect with 718 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: the people who came up with haboob and they'll they'll 719 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: work out alright. It was the same green light all right. 720 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: I was always I like, I like to fit us 721 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: off the show with just some some fun, random kind 722 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: of rapid fire questions. We'll go around the horn here. 723 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: If we're the Olympics starting very very soon, which Olympic 724 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: event would you guys choose to compete in? Oh? Man, 725 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: I feel like it would be curdling because to choose 726 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: a summer Olympic sport? Here they curls on. Is there foods? 727 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: Do they? I don't think foods. But I'm gonna go swimming. 728 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm long and lanky. That's got to be the one. 729 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: I go. Yeah, if you, you know, like actually worked out, 730 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: you can maybe have a swimmer's body you uh no, no, 731 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: take your like team handball or something like that. I 732 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: don't know. Wait, that's a yeah, man, I apparently need 733 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: to read up on the wrestling a summer sport. I 734 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: think that's that's winter. There's a lot of blubbird. Oh okay, 735 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: you guys also do your Spitballers podcast. You do a 736 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: lot of your comedy and pop culture stuff. If you 737 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: guys have a favorite guilty pleasure movie, what would it be? 738 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: I feel like it's all musicals for me, Like, even 739 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: if it's a child like musical, I'd be like down 740 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: to watch it. It's funny that you say that because 741 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: my answer is similar, and that it's a genre. It's 742 00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: horrible End of the World movies. Oh yeah, I I mean, 743 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't care if they're good. Just blow 744 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: up some landmarks and have something to come from outer 745 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: space and I'm and the acting can be poor, the 746 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: plot holes no problem. You are why those get made? 747 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been wondering for years. I'm in on that. 748 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: Mine would be Uh, he keeps making movies. I don't 749 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: know that he's had a well. I guess uncut gems 750 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: people really like that, but guilty has charged. I watched 751 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: all the Adam Sandler movies. No matter what they're they're dumb. 752 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: You don't laugh out loud, but you get a little 753 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of But they also have lines that you know, 754 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: you can sort of throw in into everyday conversation. You mean, 755 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: they might not always be appropriate, but you can gotta 756 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: show them in um. The other thing is I felt 757 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: like uncut gems was the movie that what would have 758 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: happened to any other Adam Sandler character if they had 759 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: to face real life concert if they're not serious? Right, 760 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, like have you Gilmore and Billy had I 761 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: never had to face actual real life consequences, but you know, 762 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: like uncut Jim's, it would have been probably what would 763 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: have happened to one? Fight with Bob Barker is not realistic? 764 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: Price is wrong? Um? Last one, which one of you 765 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: is the most likely to start in his own reality 766 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: TV show? The one who already thinks he's part of one? Yeah, yeah, 767 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: I can. I can tell James this thing. I can 768 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: Marcus like legit Jason has and he'll make a joke 769 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: about it. But there is a small percentage of Jason 770 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: that really believes that he has his own Truman show 771 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: thing going on? Right? You are? You guys all know 772 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: you guys are come on all these cameras. Oh man, 773 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: I can't make me feel bad about the truth. I 774 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: mean while in that case, uh, you know now that 775 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: we're done, good afternoon. If I don't see you later, Thanks, Um. 776 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys coming on. It's been a fun conversation. 777 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 1: I know most people listening to this show, probably nowhere 778 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: to find you. But yes, for the uninitiated out there, 779 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: you know, how can they they tune into what you 780 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: guys do while you can check us out on the 781 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: web get connected everything we're doing the Fantasy Footballers dot Com, 782 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: so the Draft Kid and the podcast five times a 783 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: week is on its way. Oh boy, two weeks. You know, 784 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: as sad as the cam Acres news was today, it 785 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: almost feels like that is a it's almost a benchmark 786 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: of the off season, a very sad one, but it's like, oh, 787 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: football is coming because your first major injury rocks the 788 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: entire world. And uh, and we'll be here momentarily five 789 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: five shows a week August through December. Take a deep breath, guys, Yeah, yeah, 790 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: it is. You're right. Is one of those unfortunate mile 791 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: mark uses will get a little bit closer, and I think, 792 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: you know the The other unfortunate part is that it 793 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: probably won't be the last one. Yeah, no doubt so, 794 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: too bad about that. But I appreciate you guys coming on. 795 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: It was fun. I look forward to kind of keeping 796 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: up with you guys and seeing what you're doing. And 797 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will connect at some point, even if 798 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: via social media. Uh. During the rest of the season. Man, 799 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: you guys always appreciate As for us, that is, if 800 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: we are done, we appreciate you hanging out with the 801 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football show. You know the drill tell to 802 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: friends to tell two friends rate review and remember if 803 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: you jog backwards, you run the risk of gaining weight, 804 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: he says. Take care of yourselves, get vaccinated, and we'll 805 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: see you next week. Wow w W, I'm cot coming. 806 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm cot coking.