1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Oh, it's our one on this Tuesday, Dan and the 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Dan Nuts Dan Patrick Show. Seaton's on the road. I 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: think he's in Indianapolis. He was going to go to 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Motor Speedway this morning, and I said, well, 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: why don't you join us in about forty five minutes 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: from now. He's in the Makeo Van. Apparently he scratched 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: up the Makeo Van. That's cool, but then we'll just 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: ask Mako to fix the Makeo Van. That'd be weird 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: to take the Makeo van into a Maco store. But 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: Seaton's on the road, going to Vegas, where we'll be 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: the following week for Formula One. Reggie Miller will stop 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: by a little later on Chase Daniel, our favorite breaking 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: down film. And I'm curious what he sees with some 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks, including the situation with the Giants. Brian 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: Dable gets fired. We talked about this yesterday and even 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: when the season started. I said that after ten games, 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: if he's won in none or two and eight, he's 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: probably going to get fired. The question would be when 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: would he go to Jackson Dart. He went to Jackson 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: Dart earlier than we thought, because I think he realized 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: what he didn't have with Russell Wilson. He played him, 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: he wrote him, and all of a sudden, you've got 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: a quarterback who has played seven games and he has 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: been in concussion protocol or examined for concussion four times. 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: How much of that is on Jackson Dart and how 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: much of that is on Brian Dable. Now the problem 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: that you had with Brian Dabele When Jackson Dart got 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: hurt a couple of weeks ago and Brian Dabele was 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: yelling into the blue tent, that's a bad, bad sign 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: that it felt like he was desperate. You've got to 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 2: get back out there, help me save my job, which 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: he wasn't able to do. But they have their quarterback 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: now they need a coach. We'll talk to Chase Daniel 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: about that as well. And also I want him to 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: break down what he sees with Jordan Love because it 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: feels like he's a top ten quarterback, but he doesn't 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: play like a top ten quarterback. He has those glimpses 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: and he's getting paid like he's a top ten, top 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: five quarterback. But I'm watching last night. I kept thinking, 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: this defense is really good. That offense is not good 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: at all. And the Eagles, you know, you kind of 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: carve out a win. They wasn't pretty, but they got 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: a win and a big win when you beat the 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: Packers on the road, and that could be you know, 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: down the road with home field advantage. But you know, 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: this is really big if you're the Packers and you're 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: leading the division to now your third and the Bears 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: I still think are a playoff caliber team. The Vikings, 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: we saw what they could do. They beat Detroit. The 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: Lions I still think are the class there. So that 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: is not an easy division to navigate there. But I'm 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: watching last night and I kept thinking, come on, guys, 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: let's go, let's get going. And it never happened. 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: You know. 57 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: When the season began, I started to look at Green 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: Bay and green Bay and the Rams were the other 59 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: two teams I thought of aside from the Lions to 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: represent the NFC. I thought that much of them, and 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: then you added Michael Parsons and I thought, okay, you 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: know we're gonna get something special here. Well, the Rams 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: have lived up to the billing. I think the Lions have, 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: but the Packers. You thought sturdy offensive line, reliable run game, 65 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: you got a respected head coach, and you've got a 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: quarterback on the rise, and and now they're five to 67 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: three and one, and in those three losses they've scored thirteen, 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: sixteen and seven points. I need more out of a 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: quarterback than I'm paying two hundred and twenty million dollars. 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: And it's not like the Packers are broken. But if 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: you don't start scoring some points, that championship window is 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: going to close a whole lot quicker than you thought. 73 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: Here's Jordan Love after the game. 74 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: We're not getting any consistency right now. We're not getting 75 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: into a rhythm. 76 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: We'll have a good play here and then it kind 77 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: of just will have a negative play. Whether it's a 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: lot of things, whether it's a turnover, penalty, drop sack, 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's a lot of things. So it's just 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: find ways to keep the positive plays going and avoid 81 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: these negative plays that we're getting. But I think we're 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: just kind of shooting ourselves in the foot right now 83 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: and getting in the funk of, you know, having some 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: good plays and then not building off them properly, and 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 4: you know, having a play that might hurt the drive 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: and we can't overcome it. 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: So Philly improves to seven and two. By the way, 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: the uniforms, let's decide what kind of green we're going with. 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: How about we pick a green and keep stay with it. 90 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: It's not a good look. I'm talking about the Eagles. Packers' 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: uniforms look awesome except for the throwbagging up forms that 92 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: should have been thrown away. Hey we got throwback uniforms. 93 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: No throw those away. Philly improves to seven into green 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Bay five three and one. I'm not surprised the Giants 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: fired Brian Dable, but then you keep your GM. And 96 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get this straight, and Paulie, maybe you 97 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: can set me straight if I veer off course here. 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: But Brian Dable wanted Jackson Dart Joe Shane. The GM 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: didn't want Jackson Dart. But then Jackson Dart might be 100 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: the reason why the GM keeps his job. But the 101 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: coach lost his job and he was the one all 102 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: in on Jackson Dart as his quarterback. 103 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you nailed it, okay, But isn't this a classic 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: general manager wants to save his own jobs, so he 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: recommends firing the head coach to make a statement to 106 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 5: the fans, but not fire himself. That's usually how it 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 5: is with the GM. 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 6: You fire a coach to save your own. 109 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: Job, unless you're in Miami and then they fire the 110 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: GM and then the coach keeps his job. 111 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 7: That's down South. 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't understand. I mean, look, Brian Dable 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: the last three years, you're not keeping your job. But 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: if you win that game against the Bears, does Brian 115 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: Dabele still coach the Giants and they were beating the 116 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Bears the whole game, Jackson Dart gets hurt and all 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Caleb Williams comes to the rescue. But 118 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: if you win that game, I'm always curious. You know, 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: it's rare when you win a game and then you 120 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: get fired in any sport. But here you have that 121 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: situation where, you know, blowing these fourth quarter leads for 122 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: fourth quarter leads, double digit fourth quarter leads the game 123 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: in Denver, Like, you can't have situations like that, Like 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: you want to have continuity, sustainability, then you can't let 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: those games go. Great teams, great quarterbacks, great coaches don't 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: let those games go. And that's what the Giants did. 127 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: And you're going to point the finger to Brian Dable 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: and he pays the price. But you know, the Giants 129 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: can't find a coach. Look at all the coaches that 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: they've had, I mean the Ben mcadoo's situation, the era 131 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: Joe Judge was going to be the next Bill Belichick. 132 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, Tom Conflin's not walking through the door. Bill 133 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: Parcell's not walking through the door. Hell you might. We'll 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: reach out to Bill Belichick, bring him in, see if 135 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: he wants to coach the g Men. Yeah, Paulie, And historically. 136 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: The New York Giants were one of those franchises that's 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: never awful. You know, they will you know, like a 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: seven win season was bad for them. They haven't won 139 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: ten games since twenty sixteen. 140 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 6: That's a stretch. 141 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: Starting lineup. Fritzy's here, Dylan in for Seaton, Marv Pauli 142 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: yours truly in the BRGS. We'll have a poll question 143 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: coming up. Yes, Dylan. 144 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 8: I was just gonna say, if you're a new head 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 8: coach getting hired by the Jets or Giants, how aware, 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 8: like in the back of your mind are you that 147 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 8: you're going to get fired? Because it seems like it's 148 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 8: just been an inevitability. 149 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you can think it, but I 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: don't think there's a situation with like Pete Carroll could 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: get fired. He could get fired by the Raiders. Andy 152 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: Reid is safe, Mike Tomlin is Like how many coaches 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: Sean McVay is safe. Is Matt Lafleur safe if they 154 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs? Are we playing safe in I 155 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: don't know? It's mid season? Okay, Pete Carroll, though, Is 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott safe in Buffalo? And I know we want 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: to say, well, of course he is, But it feels 158 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: like every year we're like, I don't know Sean McDermott, yes. 159 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 9: Marvin no, no, no, because he's on year four of 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 9: all right, it's time to get to the super Bowl now. 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: But if he's getting fired, it's not during the regular season. 162 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about at the end of the season, regular season. 163 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: How many guys are untouchable. They're going to keep their 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: jobs no matter what. They keep their jobs. Yes, Dylan, 165 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: Is Mike Tomlin still on that list? I feel like 166 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: that's starting to wane. I don't think they would fire him. 167 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: You don't know, they don't do that. I mean, they've 168 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,119 Speaker 2: had three coaches. I know in the history of the franchise, 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: you've had three coaches that would be a Mike. How 170 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: about how about we agree to move. 171 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 7: On mutual parting of ways. 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes, how about you and Aaron Rodgers go to Malibu, 173 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: hang out for a little while, and we'll try to 174 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: find your successor. 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 7: Yes, Mark, Sean Payton is safe. 176 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: Yes, Sean McVay is safe. Mike McDonald, by the way, 177 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: is the head coach in Seattle. He's safe. He might 178 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: be the coach of the year, although Mike Rabel is safe. 179 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel's not safe in Miami. Aaron Glenn is safe 180 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: ish right, He's gonna get at least two years out 181 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 2: of this. Yes, uh, Dylan. 182 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 8: If we want to go based odds wise, who has 183 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 8: the worst odds to win Coach of the year. 184 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: Give us an idea. 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 8: So all at the bottom, there's six guys who are 186 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 8: plus forty thousand. Pete Carroll is one of them, Mike McCoy, 187 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 8: Aaron Glenn, Brian Dables still on there, No, Dan Quinn 188 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 8: and Kevin Stefanski. 189 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think think you go into these jobs 190 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: like Brian Schottenheimer knows he's going to get fired. Right, 191 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: at some point, he'll probably get fired. I'm not saying 192 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: that he should. I mean, I hope that he gets 193 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: a couple of years to prove himself. But you kind 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: of go in if you take over Tennessee Carolina Cleveland Jets, 195 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: like you know you're going to get fired. The odds 196 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: are not in your favor. Yes, Marvin. 197 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 7: Two guys, Dan Campbell and Dan Quinn. I think they're 198 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 7: both safe. 199 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 9: No matter what Dan Campbell is for sure, you don't 200 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 9: think Dan Quinn I hope he is. To me, you 201 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 9: got to an NFC championship game and this year just 202 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 9: might be you know what, Jayden was hurt? 203 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know, I agree. 204 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 7: So just this season? 205 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah this season? Yes, but you do 206 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: you know you go into these situations where you know 207 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: that the odds are you're probably going to get fired. Yeah, pulling. 208 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 5: It feels like if the Raiders continue to be awful, 209 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: they would let Pete Carroll walk off into the sunset 210 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: in a nice manner based off his history in the NFL. Hey, coach, 211 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 5: don't make us do anything you've had You've decided to retire. 212 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and I would not be surprised if that happened 213 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: gues Ton. 214 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 7: They're one game out of first right now. 215 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 9: But if things go sideways with a favorable schedule, what 216 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 9: happens to John Harblaugh in the at the end of 217 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 9: the year. 218 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: I think he's safe. I do, and I think that 219 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: they're you know, they're going to win that division, so 220 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: he is, he's safe. But I think that in the 221 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: beginning of the season and people are like, I don't know, 222 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: you know, can can you survive something like this? You 223 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: build up that equity and I think that, you know, 224 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: and you have ownership that doesn't react. You know, they're 225 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: not crazy people. They're not out in the media talking 226 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: all the time, you know. So John Harball is good, Yes, Marv. 227 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 7: Nick Siriani never seen I never see. 228 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: Do you realize before he won the Super Bowl? During 229 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: the year, people are talking about if he doesn't win 230 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, he might not keep his job. 231 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 7: He fired the OC and ThEC like, let's fire everybody to. 232 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: Keep his job. 233 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 5: Yes, Paulie, they should have fired Nick Siriani last night 234 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: after the game. 235 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: Was only for that that fourth down and six. 236 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: Fourth and sixth at the thirty five you throw into 237 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 5: the end zone. 238 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, are they gonna Are they gonna 239 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: run the ball because it's fourth down and Green Bay's 240 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: gonna get the ball. They'll stop the clock because you 241 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: know it'll be fourth down and turn it over on 242 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: downs and all of a sudden, you see Jalen Hurts, 243 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: who didn't have a good night, and you're gonna all 244 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden like this is double coverage and a 245 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: precise pass that you're throwing it. Now, you might say, 246 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: well if he doesn't catch it and they intercept it, 247 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: then they're down inside the five. Okay, if you kick 248 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: a field goal, I make Jordan Love go all the 249 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: way to score a touch down to win. In this case, 250 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 2: he gets the ball, you get twenty five yards. 251 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: You got a chance to tie the game. Yeah, Paulie, Yeah, 252 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: that would have been about a fifty yard field goal. 253 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 5: You make it a touchdown game that the Packers need 254 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 5: to score the length of the field. Your kicker, Jake Elliott, 255 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 5: he's three for four from fifty plus this year. Yeah, 256 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 5: it's a safe, much safer play. 257 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: I didn't understand it. 258 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: It. 259 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: It was one of those where I go, oh boy, 260 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: as soon as Jalen Hurts went back to pass, and 261 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm going no, no, because I realized it was a 262 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: pass downfield. It wasn't like I got Goddard over the 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: middle for seven and that's ball game. Yes, TuS. 264 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 10: Is that an overconfidence in your offense or not enough 265 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 10: confidence in your defense? 266 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 7: Well, if I'm a defender, I'm upset that we're not punting. 267 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 7: We can handle this for twenty twenty five seconds. 268 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: But the offense hadn't been good all night long. 269 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 7: So it doesn't make any sense to do that, to 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 7: run that play. 271 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Paulie. 272 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: I love watching Peyton Manning in situations like this. As 273 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: the ball snap, he goes what we're doing here in 274 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: one word, what we're doing here. 275 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: It's great. 276 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 8: Yes, Dylan, it just screamed like I'm playing Madden. Like 277 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 8: I refused the punt. I'm not gonna kick. This is 278 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 8: a stupid play, but let's see how it goes. 279 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 280 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 281 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w app. Fox 282 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be 283 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: a part of it. 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First 293 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: place is on the line in the mac Chase Daniel 294 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: ESPN NFL College Football analyst will be on the call tonight. 295 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: Are you feeling it? Are you feeling Maction tonight? 296 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: I'm feeling it. 297 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: Man. 298 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 11: I'm in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I landed at two am at 299 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 11: an airport I didn't even know they had and got 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 11: about six hours of sleep already starting to prep the man. 301 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: Maction is. 302 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 11: It's awesome because it's great for the conference, it's great 303 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 11: for everyone. It's great for the players to get on 304 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 11: national television. 305 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 6: So we'll be on E two and we're excited to 306 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 6: get going, man. 307 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Did you get recruited by MAC schools? 308 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: I did. 309 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 6: I got recruited by MAC schools. 310 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 11: But you know, there were some other options where I 311 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 11: didn't have to travel as far north from Texas, and 312 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 11: we got like a logjam up here at the top 313 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 11: of the conference. Ohio, Miami, Buffalo is really good, Western Michigan. 314 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 6: The winner will be in the driver's seat for sure, 315 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 6: whoever wins tonight. 316 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm curious how you would assess last night's game that 317 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: there was great defense. But if I'm going to look 318 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: at Jordan Love and we've seen them have a couple 319 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: of the worst losses. You lose at home to Carolina, 320 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: and you lost it to the Cleveland Browns, And I 321 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: don't know if we keep thinking, Okay, he's the next, 322 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: you know, following line with Aaron and and Brett Fire, 323 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: where he might not be a great quarterback, he might 324 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: be a good quarterback and potentially a very good quarterback. 325 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: What do you see with Jordan Love that's missing here 326 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: in these three losses where they're not even getting twenty points. 327 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's brutal. And that's the thing, right, It's it's 328 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 11: the losses and how they lose because you score two 329 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 11: touchdowns in their losses, and they're winning these games. And 330 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 11: I think that's sort of been the issue. Was Jordan Love, 331 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 11: I think is a really good quarterback. Do I think 332 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 11: he has the ability to be a great quarterback someday? 333 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 11: Absolutely everyone thinks that, because we've seen short spurts of 334 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 11: consistent play now when stuff isn't right and the run 335 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 11: game isn't working for them and they're without Jayden Reed, 336 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 11: they've been without Tucker Craft for a few weeks. I 337 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 11: think that's where he struggles, and that's where he struggles 338 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 11: consistently making plays now. Last night it was freezing cold, 339 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 11: it was a tundra. It was such like a Green 340 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 11: Bay Packers game, and I just thought for sure they 341 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 11: were gonna pull it off. 342 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 6: And every time they had a chance to. 343 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 11: It was offensive penalty, misdrop, another penalty, and it just 344 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 11: they could never get in front of the sticks. And 345 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 11: I think that's sort of the issue that maybe some 346 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 11: Green Bay Packers fans are wondering, and some other fans 347 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 11: he's like, when is he gonna take that next step? 348 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 11: Because a couple of years ago before he was hurt. 349 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 11: Last year, he was hurt, like most of the year 350 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 11: was hurt, and I don't really judge quarterbacks when they're hurt. 351 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 11: I mean, look, he played alright, they didn't play great. 352 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 11: But two years ago, I think they started three and 353 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 11: three and they rerolled off six or seven in a row, 354 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 11: and everyone. 355 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 6: Was like, oh my gosh, he's making the jump. Like 356 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 6: he's making the jump. 357 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 11: And then it's just the inconsistent level of play because 358 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 11: you know, I don't know if he's a guy dan 359 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 11: that can elevate your team without ten other guys around 360 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 11: him playing well, Like I do, think ten other guys 361 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 11: around him have to play well, and then in cases 362 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 11: that they do, it's elevated. The play calling is weird 363 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 11: with Matt before. It's like, when I'm watching the game, 364 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 11: I'm like, can you take a shot down the field? 365 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 11: Can you throw the ball more than five yards? And 366 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 11: so they want to play this ball control. Offensively had 367 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 11: ten possessions last night and only scored seven points. 368 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 6: It is brutal. 369 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: Help me understand the fourth and sixth call by Nick 370 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: Sirianni at the end of the game. 371 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, dude, I don't know. 372 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 11: I was listening to Detroit who called the game, and 373 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 11: I'm like, how would I handle that in an analyst role, 374 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 11: and I would say the same thing. I'm like, I 375 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 11: have just I have no answer for it whatsoever. And 376 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 11: then and then the play call too, it's just like, oh, 377 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 11: let's throw a jump ball to a J. 378 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 6: Brown. 379 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 11: I'm like, when he hasn't been involved all game one, 380 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 11: go to Devonte Smith, do a little slant route in 381 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 11: between the field. But yeah, I don't. I don't quite 382 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 11: get that sometimes, and for for for whatever reason, Nick Sirianni, 383 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 11: we saw it a couple times last year, these end 384 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 11: of game management situations where you're paid the big bucks 385 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 11: to be the head coach, you're you're not involved offensively 386 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 11: calling the plays, you're not involved defensively calling the place. 387 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 11: At times, that has sort of been his Achilles hill, 388 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 11: and you saw it last night. They're just lucky they 389 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 11: got out of there, because when McManus is lining up 390 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 11: for a sixty four yard field goal, I'm like, oh, dude, 391 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 11: it's going to go to overtime. And then and then 392 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 11: every talk show we'll be talking about this. Nick Sirianni'd 393 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 11: be like, hey, and so it sort of is slit underneath, right, 394 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 11: winning cures all. 395 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 6: But it's one of those decisions where I'm sure he 396 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 6: wants back. 397 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: But the result shouldn't change our opinion on this that 398 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: they did win. I'm looking at it going, you're lucky 399 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: you won because now you brought a field goal into play, 400 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: and have they gotten a little bit closer, then maybe 401 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: you're going to overtime in Green Bay and you have 402 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: this game. I just didn't understand the call. I get. 403 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, hey, I mean punmet Punnett. 404 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: Well like or kick a field goal? 405 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: Yeah? 406 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 11: The field goal was I mean just I think he 407 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 11: was playing weather okay, and so he's in that sort 408 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 11: of because remember when you wherever the ball sat eight 409 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 11: yards back from the line, it gives them even closer. 410 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 11: So I can understand not the field goal there, but 411 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 11: pooch punnet like get it down to the ten. 412 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 6: The way the Packers' offensive been playing, I think you're good. 413 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: We're talking to Chase daniel Be on the call tonight. 414 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: It's Max in Ohio, Western Michigan. And how is Kalamazoo? 415 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: Which weather like in Kalamazoo? 416 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: Dud? 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 11: I just I just went downstairs for like a late 418 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 11: breakfast because I was doing some prep and I went 419 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 11: outside and like I live in San Diego, right, So 420 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 11: it's like seventy two and sunny every single day. My 421 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 11: wife was like, oh, you need to bring a jacket. 422 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 11: I was trying to get out the door and dude, 423 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 11: it's like twenty five degrees and snow on the ground. 424 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 11: So we're gonna have a maction game tonight, man. 425 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: Thirty seven degrees would kick off, by the way, there 426 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: you go, warm up a little, yeah, yeah, help me 427 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: under help me understand the Okay, Brian Dabele gets fired, 428 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: and I'm curious. It's like he's getting blamed for Jackson 429 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: Dart putting himself in harm's way. How does I want 430 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: to be fair to the situation here, because it feels 431 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: like Jackson Dart is going to play the way Jackson 432 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Dart wants to play. But is what role does Brian 433 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: Dabele play in Jackson Dart getting banged up? 434 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 435 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 11: Look, the narrative around that just it honestly makes me 436 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 11: upset and just mad and pissed off because I'm like, 437 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 11: at the end of the day, when you're playing football 438 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 11: as a quarterback, you have to protect yourself. I understand 439 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 11: these cold runs. We can't put it on Brian daveall 440 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 11: that Jackson Dart, you know, has been checked for four 441 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 11: concussions this year, had won and I get it, Like 442 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 11: that's who Jackson Dart is and will be in the 443 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 11: NFL until he's old and he can't run anymore and 444 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 11: he's got to become a pocket passer. That's what makes 445 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 11: Jackson Dart special. If you go back to his old 446 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 11: mis days, that's what makes him special. My one thing 447 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 11: about Jackson Dart, and this showed his ugly head the 448 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 11: old miss days, is he doesn't slide, like he doesn't 449 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 11: know when contact is close, even in the pocket, and 450 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 11: he can't have that feel you look at like Lamar Jackson, 451 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 11: completely different runner. I know that, but his pocket awareness 452 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 11: in his spiel where he never ever gets hit straight on, 453 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 11: it's the complete opposite with Jackson Dart. So at the 454 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 11: end of the day, as a quarterback, like the best 455 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 11: ability is availability, everyone said that, but if you can't 456 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 11: stay on the field for your team, because look, I 457 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 11: don't think Brian da Ball gets fired if the Giants 458 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 11: end up pulling that one off. Like that's when the 459 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 11: whole game changed, was when Jackson Dart went out. Because 460 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 11: so it's not only it's not only like what he 461 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 11: does on the field, but his leadership and ability and 462 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 11: everything about that. 463 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 6: And look, it's just Brian da ball. 464 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 11: I thought he was going to make it to the 465 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 11: end of the year, but the multiple blown double digit 466 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 11: leads just too much. 467 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: I guess I mentioned this a little while ago, that 468 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: we get caught up on red zone and how good 469 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: somebody is because you saw them on red zone. When 470 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: you watch Caleb Williams the whole game, he didn't necessarily 471 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: play a great game, but he did have great moments, 472 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: and I think it fools a lot of people that 473 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: they go, man, Caleb Williams had a great game. When 474 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: he misses some easy throws, he still he gets you know, 475 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: turns his back to the defense and he's trying to 476 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: or yeah, defense, he's trying to make a play again. 477 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: And so how do you assess Caleb Williams to where 478 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: he is now to where he was, let's say, a 479 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: year ago. 480 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 11: You sound exactly opposite of all my Twitter fans because 481 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 11: I cover Caleb Williams extensively, and everyone of I tweeted 482 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 11: out like, can Caleb. 483 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 6: Williams just make a play? And then everyone particular. 484 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 11: Well, he's had six drops. Well, the offensive line has 485 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 11: done that, and I'm with you. When I watched the 486 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 11: game and the breakdowns out on the YouTube channel right now, 487 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 11: I literally just did it. 488 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 6: It's like twenty minutes. 489 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 11: Long because there were some throws that without a trained 490 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 11: eye you would say are a little bit off, and 491 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 11: those drops can become catches if the ball is just 492 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 11: a little bit closer to the receiver. Now, I will say, though, Dan, 493 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 11: like there's something about him in this clutch Gene four 494 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 11: fourth quarter come from behind wins, and it's it's almost 495 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 11: like Caleb Williams when you watch this offense, it's almost 496 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 11: like he's not the main piece, right, And that's sort 497 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 11: of sort of weird to say, But if you look 498 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 11: at his numbers, if you look at the game until 499 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 11: the fourth quarter and then and when it comes to 500 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 11: the fourth quarter and sometimes the start of the game, 501 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 11: there's always that little lull in the middle of the 502 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 11: game for Caleb Williams, I will say, compared to this 503 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 11: year from last year, getting back finally answering your question, 504 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 11: sorry about that, I have seen a lot of growth 505 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 11: in him as a quarterback, meaning like I don't know 506 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 11: if he was as good under center play action Ben 507 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 11: Johnson type style stuff as he is this year. He's 508 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 11: understanding timing, he's understanding rhythm. He's never been a guy 509 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 11: that throw a lot of interceptions. But the one thing 510 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 11: that I will think and say that my ruffle little feathers, Like, 511 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 11: you know how much money the Chicago Bears offensive line 512 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 11: put into their interior three this year, a lot of 513 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 11: money in free agency. 514 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 6: I don't think they played well at all. 515 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 11: And I think that's affected Caleb Williams play because he's 516 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 11: getting back there one, two, three at the top of 517 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 11: his drop and he's having to move early and he's 518 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 11: doing this Houdini stuff because he's literally unsackable. But I 519 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 11: think that plays into it as well, along with the drops. 520 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 11: I just want to see better consistency, more consistent play 521 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 11: early in the game, throughout the whole game. 522 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: What's going on with Bowneckt in the Denver offense. 523 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 11: Yeah, look like Sean Payton's my guy, and I know 524 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 11: just about everyone on that offensive staff, and when I 525 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 11: watch games, I'm just seeing a wildly inconsistent quarterback in 526 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 11: the first three quarters. I mean, that's just what it is, 527 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 11: and it's it starts from the ground up right, Dan 528 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 11: like accuracy at any level of play, whether I'm coaching 529 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 11: my flag football team and my son's playing quarterback he's eight, 530 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 11: or if I'm coaching bo Nicks at the pro level. 531 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 11: At the highest you can't be accurate if you got 532 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 11: happy feet back there, and you can't be accurate and 533 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 11: run the offense unless your feet are stuck in the ground. 534 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 11: You're stepping to your target and you're throwing. And I 535 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 11: think he's gotten to a point where he is not 536 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 11: seeing it as well as maybe we thought he was, 537 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 11: and then so he's been really inaccurate because he doesn't 538 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 11: trust what he sees, and that whole offense does that 539 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 11: trust what they see and look even Sempayn days in 540 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 11: New Orleans, we would go through stretches like this where 541 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 11: it's up and it's down and it's really down and 542 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 11: it's really down and you're just like trying and they're 543 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 11: still winning games. My thing is, like, I would have 544 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 11: loved for them to go get a receiver at the 545 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 11: trade deadline. They obviously didn't do that. I don't know 546 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 11: if they have enough explosiveness outside to be really good, 547 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 11: but the way their defense is playing, I think they'll 548 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 11: be all right, and it's gonna be It's gonna be 549 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 11: interesting to see how this last season of the stretch 550 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 11: for them plays out. 551 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: What if I said Drake May is the best quarterback 552 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: in the AFC. 553 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 11: You would say, what Patrick Mahomes, because the Big three, 554 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 11: the Big four, right Mahomes, Burrow, Allen Jackson, that they 555 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 11: haven't been you know, Burrow's gone. 556 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: But playing quarterback, I was playing the best quarterback in 557 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: the AC. 558 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 11: It's but in my opinion right now, it's between Mahomes 559 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 11: and Drake May, and I would probably I'd probably give 560 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 11: you the nod to Drake May. Like the reason why 561 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 11: I say Mahomes is I know they're five to four 562 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 11: and I know they haven't been good. 563 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 6: They've been like owned four and one score games. 564 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 11: Is you just watch what he does on the film, 565 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 11: right Mahomes, and it's it's like twenty twenty one, twenty 566 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 11: two MVP Pat Mahomes. But then you turn on Drake 567 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 11: May's film and the amount of growth from last year 568 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 11: to this year with a new head coach, with a 569 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 11: new play caller, with a new coordinator, with with really 570 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 11: you know, people on that offense other than Diggs, people 571 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 11: don't know who they are, like I can't tell you, 572 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 11: and a lot of people can't tell you around the. 573 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 6: Nation, like their number two receiver or their running back. 574 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 11: Steven said that they had that was on the bench 575 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 11: that couldn't play because he didn't know the offense. 576 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 6: And he's doing more with less. 577 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 11: It's sort of like the Josh Allen thing of last 578 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 11: year where people were like, oh, well. 579 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 6: Josh Allen, he's MVP. Look at how much he's doing 580 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 6: with less. 581 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 11: And I just like the way Drake May's playing right 582 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 11: now because he's really confident. 583 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 6: He's got this innate ability to move in. 584 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 11: The pocket away from pressure but keep his eyes down 585 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 11: the field, which is really difficult to do for second 586 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 11: year quarterbacks. 587 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 6: And they're taking shots down the field. 588 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 11: And I said this on our Scoot City podcast yesterday, 589 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 11: and I don't want to, you know, I don't want 590 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 11: to like say anything wrong. But when I watched when 591 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 11: I watched the film of Drake Man, I watched the 592 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 11: New England Patriots, how they operate on offense, how different 593 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 11: in personnel groupings they are, they're shifts and their motions, 594 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 11: their play calls, the way he's real it reminds me 595 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 11: a lot of those twelve days back in New England. 596 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 11: And I'm not saying necessarily he's gonna be Listen, No, 597 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 11: but listen, I'm not saying he's twelve. I'm not saying 598 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 11: he's Brady. But the way the offense is operating right 599 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 11: now in terms of how they're getting in and out 600 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 11: of plays, the shifts in the motions, and I know 601 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 11: I get that laugh out of you because I'm not 602 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 11: I just. 603 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 6: Want to make sure I'm not saying that. 604 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 11: Just the way the offense is on the field, it 605 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 11: does look like the Tom Brady days in terms of 606 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 11: how they're deploying offensively. 607 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 6: To attack defenses. 608 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: Is Matthew Stafford doing anything different than he did when 609 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: he was in Detroit? 610 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 11: Well, well, he's surrounded by a lot better players because 611 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 11: I was with him for that one year in Detroit, 612 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 11: and and I just think Sean McVay has brought out 613 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 11: the absolute best of them. I mean, like, if the 614 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 11: if the season ended today, he would be my MVP. 615 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 11: Twenty five touchdowns, two interceptions, thirteen touchdowns, no picks. In 616 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 11: the last three games, he's averaging like two hundred and 617 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 11: fifty passing yards a game. Now he has a cast 618 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 11: of characters that I would put up against anyone, right, DeVante, Adams, 619 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 11: Poking Nakua, Karon Williams, all those guys. And I think 620 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 11: what what Matthews has been able to do in LA 621 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 11: is great. Like it just seems crazy Dan that they 622 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 11: were about to get rid of Matthew Stafford over forty 623 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 11: million dollars, Like it just seems like such a bargain. 624 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 11: Remember that whole thing last this year, Like, oh well, 625 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 11: Stafford's gonna go to the Patriots, Safford's going to go 626 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 11: to this, Stafford's gonna go to that, and everything just 627 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 11: seems wow. 628 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 6: And I think they're just such a great, great match. 629 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Have fun tonight. I'll be watching with action with a 630 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: critical eye of you. Please, Okay, I need it. I 631 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: feel like I've gotten better. I feel like I haven't 632 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: talked as much because of you. So I just sort 633 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: of laid out. Let the maction environment speak for itself. 634 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: So I appreciate the help. Be stealth, though, be smart 635 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: when you jump in and you know that you have 636 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: a finite amount of time. But see something, say something, 637 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: get out. See something, say something, get out, And if 638 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 2: you somehow can give us a little nugget that we 639 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: don't see because you're you're football fans educated. But when 640 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: you say watch this, when I see this, it means 641 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: this little things. You played the position, and you know 642 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: when you get inside that quarterback's mind, it's like Romo 643 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: said on Sunday, when I've figured you out a defense, 644 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: they've figured you out, and then there was a touchdown 645 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 2: pass soon after that, Like it was really something very simple, 646 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: but he said, I've figured out the defense. They've figured 647 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: out the defense, and then you had a touchdown pass. 648 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: So when you give us those little nuggets, that's what 649 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: makes you stand out. 650 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: I love it. 651 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 6: Make the words count, don't count your words. 652 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Thank you, buddy. 653 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: Thanks Dan. 654 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: That's Chase Daniel. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 655 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 656 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 657 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live. 658 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: We talked to Reggie Miller earlier this morning, so about 659 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: three hours ago, and this was before the news that 660 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: Nico Harrison has been fired as the GM of the 661 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks. So you will hear me ask Reggie about 662 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: the MAVs and Nico Harrison. He will be on the 663 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: call tonight, It's Coast to Coast at eight eastern on 664 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock. It'll be Reggie with Mike Tarico and 665 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: they will have the game. I opened up the interview 666 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: with Reggie and I talked about Kid Cunningham with forty 667 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: six shots, but it came in a win, and I 668 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: asked him the most shots that he ever took in 669 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: a game in his career. 670 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 10: It's the most points I ever scored in a game, 671 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 10: fifty seven versus Charlotte, and I believe I took twenty 672 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 10: seven shots. And I was literally exhausted after that game. 673 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 10: But that was nothing. When you look at like MJ. 674 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 10: Kobe Carmelo, those volume scores. They put up a lot 675 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 10: of attempts. I was more on the efficiency side. 676 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 3: I tried. 677 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 10: I think during the course of a game, if I 678 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 10: got up eighteen shots, I thought that was pretty good 679 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 10: because a lot of few of those were threes. I 680 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 10: was getting to different throw lines. That's how I got 681 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 10: my you know, twenty two to thirty was just being 682 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 10: a little bit more efficient. 683 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: I got you with twenty nine shots in that game. 684 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 3: Twenty nine, okay, twenty nine in that game. Twenty nine. 685 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sixteen exhausted. Exhausted, That's what I tell people 686 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: when I would see Iverson, as small as he is, 687 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: but he had to put up at least twenty five 688 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: shots a game. That was their offense went through him. 689 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: I don't know how. You know, Mike and Kobe, those 690 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: guys who you knew they had to shoot, they knew 691 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: they had to shoot, and to put up those shots 692 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: every single night. I mean, imagine if I said to you, 693 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: you got to put up twenty nine shots a game. 694 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: No way, There's just no way. 695 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 10: I mean, people don't understand the physical toll it takes 696 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 10: to score at an elite level in the NBA. Now granted, 697 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 10: and think about this, he had forty five field goal attempts. 698 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 3: Remember he kid got foul. 699 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 10: On a few shots too, so that easily could have 700 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 10: been like fifty fil golden tymps that he was attempting. 701 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 10: And this is coming off a game the night before, 702 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 10: So think about the exhaustion that he's going through. 703 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: He took a hard foul in that game. 704 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, you highlighted this, 705 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 10: they won the game and overtime, and what a game 706 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 10: that was. 707 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: I think they're up to seven games in a row. Now, 708 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: it's one of. 709 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 10: Those sneaky stories in the in this Eastern Conference that 710 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 10: really no one is talking about because they got off 711 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 10: to such a slow start this season. 712 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: Kobe took fifty shots. That was his last game I 713 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: think against the Jet fifty. 714 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: Wow, people understand. 715 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: At the end of his career, he's taken fifty against 716 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Hilly's injury. Yes, last game of your you know what. 717 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 10: But I that I can see because look, if I'm 718 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 10: gonna go out, this is my last game, this is 719 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 10: my target goal. 720 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: Fitty, I'm going for fitty field goal to TIMPs. 721 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 2: By the way, what's wrong with your Pacers? 722 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 723 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 724 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: But still they had a lot of injury. 725 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 10: Okay, it's been a it's been a very very difficult 726 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 10: start to this season for Rick carl At and the Pacers. Look, 727 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 10: it wasn't going to be easy. And you know, judging 728 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 10: from that first game when nim Hard went down versus 729 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 10: the Okay, see and there, they've had a rash of injuries. 730 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 10: And look, they are a team that when their whole, 731 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 10: they're great. 732 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: When there's a few parts missing it in the Maserati, Uh, 733 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: it's like a pinto old school. That's old school. Remember 734 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 3: those pintal cars? 735 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: I do, I do. What's the worst car you ever drove? O? 736 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 10: Remember those Suzuki's, Dodge Suzuki's. I believe it was Corey Gaines, 737 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 10: my my roommate, you see away. 738 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 3: He let me drive his Dodge Suzuki occasionally. 739 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 2: Wait, that's what they were paying players that you saw. 740 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: They weren't paying His parents were. 741 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 10: They have a little bit of money, So he let 742 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 10: me drive his dogs to Zuki. 743 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: We're talking to Reggie Miller. He'll be on the call 744 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: with Mike Tarico tonight. And it's the Celtics and the Sixers. 745 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: Where is Joel Embiid? Now like this physically because I 746 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: know they got one of the best backcourds, but Embiid 747 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 2: is the key. 748 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 10: He's the key, and he's still on a minister restriction. 749 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 10: I think they're hovering him around twenty five or twenty six, 750 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 10: and I think that's going to be the master plan 751 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 10: going forward for this season. 752 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: I think you've heard or you've seen a few comments. 753 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 10: Him Cup that he's come out and said, look, I'd 754 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 10: rather stay home and not play if you're going to 755 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 10: keep me on this minister restriction. I think the Sixers 756 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 10: are in this situation. Damned if you do, Damned if 757 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 10: you don't, because if you increase this minute now and 758 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 10: he gets hurt, everyone's going to jump up in arms 759 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 10: and be like, well, we told you to put him 760 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 10: on a minist restriction, and if he's on a minister restriction, 761 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 10: you've got the player. Embiid ain't about playing more minutes. 762 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 10: This is the safe approach because Dan, you know this. 763 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 10: He's injury from right and you want to have the 764 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 10: most healthiest version of Joel Embiid come April and May, 765 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 10: because we haven't seen that over the last several seasons. Heck, 766 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 10: we haven't even seen Paul George this year, so we 767 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 10: don't know what versions of the Sixers we're gonna see. 768 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: You just mentioned this. They do have one of the 769 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: best basket back courts. 770 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 10: In fact, they're leading all back courts and scoring between 771 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 10: Edgecombe and MAXI. 772 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: So I know what I'm getting there. 773 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 10: But you're right if Embeedd is healthy, and to me, 774 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 10: this is what the approach I would take if I'm 775 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 10: Nick Nurse and I am the staff of the Sixers 776 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 10: once the All Star breaks, I would take this approach 777 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 10: all the way up to the All Star Break. Once 778 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 10: the All Star Break goes, every game after that it 779 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 10: increases one to two minutes. So by the time, because 780 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 10: you only play about twenty five to thirty games after 781 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 10: the All Star break, I would increase his usage one 782 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 10: to two minutes every game, and by the end of 783 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 10: the regular season he's up to thirty four thirty five, 784 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 10: which that that's kind of what you would want. And 785 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 10: then you would hope he's in good enough shape come 786 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 10: playoff time when the level goes through the roof that 787 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 10: he's ready to go. But I need him healthy in 788 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 10: the end, and he hasn't shown that he can do that, 789 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 10: so keep him on the minis restriction. 790 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 2: Jeff t on his podcast got into a discussion about 791 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: Joker versus Shack. How how would they do against each other. 792 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: They were talking about Shaq in Orlando would dominate Joker, 793 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 2: but Joker with Shack after that, Joker, you know, because 794 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: he's inside outside that he would probably drive Shack crazy. 795 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 10: And let me first start saying, you know, we're playing 796 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 10: in today's rules or we played in the Shack's rules 797 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 10: in the ninety thousands, Like which one do we get 798 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 10: to do? Does Shaq get to get it in the 799 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 10: post and turn and elt. You know this was Shack's 800 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 10: favorite move, and he got away with it. Today's game, 801 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 10: he wouldn't be able to get away with that. So 802 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 10: which rules are we playing with? 803 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 804 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: If you said let's play today's rules and I got 805 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: Shack at his peak and Joker at his peak? Who 806 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: I think the. 807 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 10: Fact dominates in any era? Let me start by saying that. Okay, 808 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 10: so it wouldn't matter. I just think they would put 809 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 10: Shaq in a ja zillion picking rolls in today's game 810 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 10: and get him out of the paint. Shaq would have 811 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 10: to cover more paint. Now, I do agree Orlando Shaq, 812 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 10: who is nimble and skinnier and could run all day, 813 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 10: I think he would thrive. I still think the most 814 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 10: dominant of Shaq when he was in LA and much bigger, 815 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 10: he would still have an effect on the game. How 816 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 10: would he do versus Joker? I mean I would love it. Oh, 817 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 10: I would love to see I'm still going with a 818 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 10: big fella. Look Shack, he died, He denied me on 819 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 10: a lot of occasions. I never got a chance to play. Obviously, 820 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 10: play against the Joker. But the Joker, this boy is 821 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 10: bad I think he's already one of the top what 822 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 10: four or five centers in my opinion, Kareem Shack. I 823 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 10: mean you could throw Wilt in there, Moses Malone. Now, 824 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 10: are we considering Akeema center? Because to me, if I 825 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 10: was doing an all time team, that Keem would be 826 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 10: my power forward. 827 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to put him at center. 828 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, So you know Jokers in that conversation, no question. 829 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 2: But you would take Shack over him, a team over him. 830 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 3: I would take Shack. I'm taking Kareem. Then you gotta 831 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: start thinking where Joker falls there? 832 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 2: Uh, Joker makes it look easy. Yeah, and he could 833 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: have played back in the nineties because he's a big 834 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: guy and you know he would take you to the 835 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: See Shaq never would guard Joker. They wouldn't let Shack 836 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 2: guard Joker. 837 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 3: Here's my argument why I love. 838 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 10: The Joker because every time I see big fella Shaq, 839 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 10: he's always he always says Rick Smith's gave him fits. 840 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 10: So if Rick Smith's at seven four gave him fits. 841 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, then what would Joker do? 842 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 2: Oh? 843 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 10: Yes, right, So if he's telling me always, oh my god, 844 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 10: Rick Smith's, he I had no answer for him. So 845 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 10: if he's saying that about Rick and Rick was unbelievable. 846 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 10: Don't get me wrong, love me Rick, But what would 847 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 10: Joker do to him that if that was the case. 848 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 10: You know, Shaq gets caught up at times in his 849 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 10: feelings because you know he gets caught in his feelings 850 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 10: at times, because look, Joker is a two three time MVP, 851 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 10: two times three times, three time MVP. 852 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 3: He's wanted Chip. The only thing that's missing now from 853 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 3: his resume another title. If he gets. 854 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 10: Another title or two, then the conversation is really valid, 855 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,959 Speaker 10: really valid, because we know Shack has four. 856 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: So is Shaq trying to state his case like a 857 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 2: preemptive Hey, before you put Joker ahead of me, don't 858 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 2: forget what I did exactly, Okay, but. 859 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 10: We'll never forget Shack. I will certainly never forget Shack 860 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 10: and what he did to my beloved Pacers. 861 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 2: The Mavericks situation. Now they're they're chanting fire Nico. Why 862 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: can't they be patient there in Dallas that you do 863 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 2: have guys that are injured coming back, But now you 864 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: want Nico, you wanted him out. Then you win the lottery, 865 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 2: you get Cooper flag and everything's great, and now you're 866 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: not playing well, and now they want to fire the GM. 867 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 10: Well because they expected Cooper to have a victor women 868 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 10: Yama rookie season and it's not been hasn't been quite 869 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 10: that the injuries. Anthony Davis has been hurt, obviously, no 870 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 10: Kyrie all season. It's going to be hard to judge 871 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 10: his team until Kyrie and Ad get back. 872 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: Ad looks pretty big, have you seen him? 873 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 3: Yes, he does. 874 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: He's a big man. 875 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 3: What's going on in Dallas? Because that's what they used 876 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 3: to say. 877 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: About right, Imagine how much you would have waited if 878 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: you played in Dallas? 879 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,959 Speaker 10: Good Lord, is that Texas barbecue really that good? 880 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: You would have been Rick Mahorne, you know, yeah, I. 881 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 10: Mean play struggling shooting the basketball. So look, this team 882 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 10: is hard to judge until Jason Kidd can get them 883 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 10: all together and they start playing. But the problem with 884 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 10: that is you're in the Western Conference. There's no time, 885 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 10: you know, to figure it out. You've got to hit 886 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 10: the ground rolling in the Western Conference. So look, you 887 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 10: know they're always going to be chanting fire and Nico. 888 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 10: They were doing that last season, and then you look 889 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 10: at Luca and what the Lakers are doing. 890 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 3: So of course you know that kind of adds a 891 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: little bit of field. 892 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. Maybe claysy in love. Maybe that's what it's 893 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 2: not the role of being in love, but maybe it's 894 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: affected his game. You know who's he going out with? 895 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj? 896 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 3: Is that? Who's going to Meghan the Stallions? 897 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, there you go? 898 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 3: Let me come on, come on you. 899 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: Meghan Vallon? Is it? 900 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 3: Yes? 901 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: E value okay, Meghan the Stallions. 902 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 10: Yes, she's a lovely, lovely girl from what I understand. 903 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 10: And here of course, and we all love Clay. 904 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 3: I love me some Klay Thompson, you'll turn it around. 905 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 3: Shoot or shoot? 906 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 2: Oh by the way, I saw the video where you 907 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: were shooting a couple. Was that a couple of days ago? 908 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 3: Where? Yes, it was? It was like six people think 909 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm looking for a day. 910 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 2: No I am, No, I'm that was impressive. 911 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 10: That was I just one of the people to understand that. 912 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 10: And you and I talk about this all the time. 913 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 10: That will be the last thing that will ever leave me. 914 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 10: I can always shoot, So someone's gonna tell me to shoot? 915 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 10: Come on, man, I could do that all day. That's easy. 916 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: Have fun tonight. Tell my sert Rico. 917 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 3: We said alone, we love us some Michael Too, Rico. 918 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: Buddy Reggie Miller once again. That was before Nico Harrison 919 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: was fired. The Mavericks had fired their general manager.