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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast all about professional wrestling. Joined Battle and

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Speaker 1: Eli as a breakdown what's going on in the world

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Speaker 1: of professional wrestling with special guests, including some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite wrestling superstars. You never know who's gonna stop by

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Speaker 1: now making their way to the microphone.

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Speaker 2: Give it up for the.

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Speaker 1: Greatest podcast team in the world, Battle and Eli.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, is it great to be back. We're off

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Speaker 3: doing another episode. It's the Battleground Podcast now your host

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Speaker 3: Battle along with my tag.

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Speaker 4: Team partner, this is Eli.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to go with Elijah this time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd seen it. I had an hour long talk

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Speaker 4: with my mom this afternoon and she started the conversation

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Speaker 4: with Elijah, like, oh god, so just not to stir

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Speaker 4: that up anymore.

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Speaker 3: So yes, oh man. It's it's always weird when, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, you get called by your real name because

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Speaker 3: on radio, I go by a Battle and it freaks

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Speaker 3: me out when people call me tim Now my real

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Speaker 3: name is and I don't care. I'm pulling k fob

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Speaker 3: right now. My real name is Timothy Battle, and it

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Speaker 3: freaks me out when people say Timothy because my mom

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Speaker 3: is the only person that says.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, it's a weird feeling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is the episode where we normally pop

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Speaker 3: out an interview and we have a guest that comes

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Speaker 3: in the studio and I thought, you know, long hard

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Speaker 3: and we had a couple of guests lined up and

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Speaker 3: the last minute, and I thought, with a guy that's

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Speaker 3: getting a lot of buzz, and I have this interview

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Speaker 3: in the can. He is now on NXT by Damian Priest,

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Speaker 3: which he did a I guess did you do a

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Speaker 3: wrestling match? I didn't really watch NXT Wednesday night, but

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Speaker 3: he is a part of NXT and when the Wednesday

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Speaker 3: Night War started off, he I guess picked a storyline

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Speaker 3: Damian Priest, but when I interviewed him, he was Punishment

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Speaker 3: Martinez for Ring of Honor and at the time he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would too. I did that road trip I

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Speaker 4: think a week It was either the week they debut

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Speaker 4: can't remember, but I went down to South Haven, Mississippi

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Speaker 4: the on the card and he won, and he was

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Speaker 4: just a lot of people Rememberinghi from Ring of Honor

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Speaker 4: and you know, he was a whatever, A big nay,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: Off the air, we kind of talked a little bit

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Speaker 3: about maybe like his dream match was going to be

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Speaker 3: because I mean when he was in Ring of Honor,

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Speaker 3: actually a really cool, pretty cool interview with him. So

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Speaker 3: we'll air that here in a little bit, but we

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Speaker 3: just kind of want to take a quick second and

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Speaker 3: just say thank you guys for being awesome fans of

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Speaker 3: the show. I don't have anything to give away right

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Speaker 3: now yet, not yet, yeah, not yet. But we're on

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Speaker 3: social media. We're on Twitter, Battleground IHR, We're on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: Battleground podcast, which that's the best place to follow us.

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Speaker 3: Which we actually posted about a really cool show happening

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they mentioned it on the air on AW the

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Speaker 4: We're not sure exactly what we're doing with them when

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Speaker 3: So I mean, if I know that, I kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty impressive. But you know he's he's doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm sure, you know, probably after Halloween, we'll

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Speaker 3: So you know, I feel like Halloween, we should do

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Speaker 3: favorite Halloween Havoc pay per view.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was always my favorite WCW pay per view,

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Speaker 4: So that sounds like something exactly like I would like

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Speaker 3: So we can do that, because I will say that

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Speaker 3: Halloween Havoc VHS and the first match was the electric

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Speaker 3: We weeople do a Halloween Havoc episode because why not?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, if you know, we were talking about

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Speaker 4: Halloween Havoc. Bro, you own the copyright, You own all

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Speaker 4: the pay per views in the library. Bring people would

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Speaker 3: Oh, I totally.

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Speaker 4: And then and then have a Hell in the Cell

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Speaker 3: But all right, you do a Hell in a cell

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Speaker 3: and maybe a casket match, bring that back. We haven't

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Speaker 3: you brought Hi Rope back, why don't we bring the

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, now you're talking.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of kind of throwback slash modern wrestling. The second

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Speaker 4: just talking about how, you know, not only is it

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Speaker 4: So we hope to get more involved with them as

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and of course, I guess a lot of

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Speaker 3: doing a show in Nashville next month, right, it's the week.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the week of the AW Show. I

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Speaker 3: And he's doing it at the Country Music Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: He did like a solo acoustic thing. I think he

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Speaker 4: And maybe it was the Ryman, I don't know. But

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Speaker 4: one of the members of his band is from here, Katie.

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Speaker 4: She lives here. She used to be the bass player,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so we will, I guess, try and get

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Speaker 3: Billy on next month when they're in town. We'll do

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Speaker 4: And that week is also my birthday, so if you

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Thanks for being here. So let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be facing Scorpio Sky tonight. And he's somebody who,

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Speaker 3: that night. I know you had the big battle royal

434
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 3: kind of thing before, and then you had to turn

435
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 3: around and wrestle again. How do you train for something

436
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: like that?

437
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a six man match where if

438
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: anybody wins the match, they get an instant title shot

439
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: right there against Silas. If Silas wins a match, then

440
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: that person that he pins can't get another title shot

441
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: while he's champion. So I was able to win that

442
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: match and then defeat him in a separate singles match

443
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: right after to prepare for something like that. It's it's basically,

444
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, stick and move. You know, there's really no preparation.

445
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 2: It's kind of just hit hard as hard as you

446
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: can and just keep it moving, you know, and just

447
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: be careful because you know the people are going to

448
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: be attacking you from all angles, so you never know

449
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get hit with or you know whatever.

450
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 2: So there's really no preparation as far as you know.

451
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: Training is. You know, you watch matches and you try

452
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: to pick up little things here and there to you know,

453
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: make sure your performance is you know, top notch. But

454
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: besides that is let's see what happens man.

455
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: Uh, punishment Martinez my guest right now. And I know

456
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: you've gone up the ranks and the independent now you've

457
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: got the title around your waist. I know last time

458
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: you were here in Nashville, you were going after the

459
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: belt and finally got it. What was it like the

460
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: night that they said, okay, this is your night, we're

461
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: giving it to you.

462
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: You know. It's one of those things that you know,

463
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: when I find out the news, of course, you know,

464
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: the kid inside me, the one that this was his dream,

465
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: of course, is static, but I try not to you know,

466
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: get too confident and over celebrate and get ahead of myself.

467
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: So when they told me, hey, this is the business

468
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: we're doing, you know, for me, it was okay, let

469
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: me just focus on going out there and putting on

470
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: the best performance possible, because that's my job, you know,

471
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: to entertain and put on a performance. And then once

472
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 2: it was done, once business was done and the bell rang,

473
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: that's when it became surreal. You know, that's when the

474
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: moment was, you know, a moment for me in my

475
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: life and my career, because plans can change at any moment.

476
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean in the ring, something could have went wrong

477
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: and things could have changed. So I wait till the

478
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: moment actually happens to really enjoy and celebrate. So at

479
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: that moment, for me, it was just you know, like

480
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: I said, it was surreal. It was lost of words

481
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: because you know, you work so hard at things, and

482
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: when you achieve it and you work hard for it,

483
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: the feeling is so much greater than just being handed

484
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: something or being lucky. And I'm proud of myself when

485
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: the work I've put in, you know, the people that

486
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: have backed me and you know to be put me

487
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: in this position and I was just you know, proud

488
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: and hopefully I can make the company proud about representing

489
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: it as a champion.

490
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: I guess Punishment Martinez is hanging out with us, and

491
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: you know I followed your career watching your matches and

492
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: you know, going up the ranks, and you don't see

493
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: a guy your size doing the high flying moves, jumping

494
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: off the top rope, jumping over the ring. What is

495
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: like that? Like, as a guy your size, you don't

496
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: see that. How do you prepare yourself to be like, Okay,

497
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to get on the top rope, look down

498
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: and be like I'm gonna just jump on that dude

499
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: and you know, elbow drop him.

500
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why guys my size don't really

501
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: do that stuff, right, you know. Apparently I'm not smart

502
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: enough to acknowledge it. But it's just you got to

503
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: be willing to, you know, go far and beyond what

504
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 2: people expect to really you know, become a star sort

505
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: of speak. You know, and that doesn't mean by doing

506
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: crazy stunts. It could be in anything as far as

507
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: this business goes. You know, where they're saying something or

508
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: making a certain expression for me, you know, in ring

509
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: ability wise, ring of Honor has always been known about

510
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: that the n ring, you know, the best wrestlers on

511
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: the planet's that's not just you know, a cool nickname

512
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: that Ring of Honor has. It's something that everybody prides

513
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: themselves in proving that that's what Ring of Honor is.

514
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: So when I first started with Ring of Honor, of course,

515
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: you know, I was always a good pro wrestler, but

516
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: that had to you know, adapt, you know, especially to

517
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: a Ring of Honor style, because it does have its style.

518
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: And for me, it was more about, well, let me

519
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 2: take a little bit from everybody that's great at something,

520
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: you know. So it was lucha libre and the high

521
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: flying stuff. Let me take a little bit from there.

522
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: It was from the MMA world because that's that's where

523
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: I first started with combat, you know. Then let me

524
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: take aspects of that, you know, let me take aspects

525
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: of Japanese strong style, American style, you know, European style.

526
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: So I kind of just trained a little bit in

527
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: everything and tried to become like a hybrid of basically

528
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: different styles and different you know, forms of just entertainers.

529
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: So for me, that's how I prepared and I got

530
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say good but at least d at some

531
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: of those maneuvers that you speak about. You know, if

532
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: a guy, you know, smaller guys, when they do these moves,

533
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: they do them a little bit more with grace, you know.

534
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: Mine and my landing's got a little rough, but but.

535
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: It connects though every time.

536
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: At least I'm big enough that some part of my

537
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: body is going to connect. The other problem is the

538
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: other part is just smacking the ground or something.

539
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: What's going to hit that concrete first?

540
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: Exactly? But yeah, that's like I said, and I'm not

541
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: saying things just because I think it's the right thing

542
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: to say. I really worked hard at you know, becoming

543
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: good or decent at certain things, and and priding myself

544
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 2: and being able to go with anybody from any style.

545
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: And part of that is being able to wrestle that

546
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: style and and do the moves and and you know,

547
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty much where that came from. As far

548
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: as preparing, there is no preparing. It's let's see what

549
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: happens here.

550
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: Let's just make the concrete on my head, you know, and.

551
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Trying not to look down. I'm not a height you know,

552
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm not a really fan of so for me, It's

553
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: funny when they're like you're not You do all this

554
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: stuff off the top and you die with like, yeah,

555
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: but that's quick. I'm not paying attention once I'm in

556
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: the air. Always. Every time I'm in the air, it's

557
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: like it's a slow motion for me, and I regret

558
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: it every single time.

559
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: My guest Punishment Martinez is hanging out. Ring of Honor

560
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: is in town this weekend. He is the Ring of

561
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: Honor TV Champions. So let me ask you this. A

562
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: lot of champions have their own persona. What kind of

563
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: champ will you be for the TV champion of Ring

564
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: of Honor?

565
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: I pretty much I'm going to stay the same who

566
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: I've been who got me here, which is just a

567
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: ba dude that just comes out and punches people in

568
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: the mouth and loves anarchy and violence and inflicting as

569
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: much pain as possible. So if that's what got me here,

570
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna continue doing it. I'm not going to

571
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: change anything. I'm not gonna duck anybody. You know, I

572
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: haven't yet, and I've been successful, so why would I

573
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: start that now while I'm champion, So no difference in

574
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: that situation, you know, I stay true to myself and

575
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: just because what's real is that I love the physicality

576
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: of what we do. So that's not going to change

577
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: smash mouth wrestling, where I'm getting in the ring, getting

578
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: in someone's face and hitting you as hard as you

579
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: can and then asking you to do it right back

580
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: because I love that. And So as far as what

581
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: type of champion I'll be, I mean, I guess the

582
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: technical term would be a fighting champion, because I like

583
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: to fight. But yeah, it's just the same as I've been,

584
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: just the crazy maniac that loves the chaos and inflicting

585
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: anarchy and pain.

586
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: Man, I think that I'd be terrified if I got

587
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: in the ring with you, if it was a title

588
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: match against Punishment Martinez, I'd probably just crawl in the

589
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: corner and just lay down and just go ahead and

590
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: take the three count. So I knew you grew up

591
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: in New York going to the Garden and there was

592
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: all the talk about Ring of Honor getting the Garden thing,

593
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: and then a big corporation came in and squashed it.

594
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: But now looking to twenty nineteen, you're in the garden.

595
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: What's that like growing up going to the garden and

596
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: now you're going to wrestle in the Garden.

597
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, winning the title was surreal, right,

598
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: But now this this is almost like the dream I

599
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: didn't know I had, but I wanted, uh, you know,

600
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: as as a teenager, I went to every in the

601
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: mid nineties, every single event wrestling event that was held

602
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: at the Garden, you know, and I saw so many

603
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: memorable matches and it really although I was already in

604
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: love with wrestling, it really solidified me as wanting to

605
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: do that and just being in the Garden feeling that

606
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: aura and not because I didn't think Ring of Honor

607
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: was capable. I just didn't think that that was even

608
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: a possibility. It just the thought never crossed my mind.

609
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, working the Hammerstein Ballroom in Manhattan Center,

610
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: that was like I thought that was the biggest deal

611
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 2: as far as New York is concerned and arena. And

612
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: then when the news of MSG came out, it was

613
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: no way, you know, that was my reaction. I was like,

614
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 2: this can't be real. This is not real life. And

615
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: then you know, it was disappointing when I got taken

616
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: away for a minute, you know, but I said it

617
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: then too. I was like, well, now it's it's no way,

618
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. Ring of Honor has become undeniable,

619
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, And like I said, with the whole aspect

620
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: of Ring of Honor wanted to be the rest of

621
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: wrestling on the planet. The talent takes that to heart.

622
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: You know. We strive to put on the best performance

623
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: possible every single match, not just depending where we are,

624
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: where we are on the card or you know what

625
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: Creative is doing. No, we take pride in what we

626
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: do every time we go out there, no matter what.

627
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: And I think that's helped propel us as a whole

628
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: a company. And now and it's the fans like they're like, no,

629
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: this is going to happen. We want this, We want

630
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: to be there, and I know it's going to sell out,

631
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: it's going to be it's history making, you know. So

632
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: being a part of this also we know that this

633
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: is historic. Do we know that this is something that

634
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: will last forever? Your your name will be in history,

635
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: you know. So for us, it's obviously extra exciting. I

636
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: don't want to speak for anybody else, but I say,

637
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: it's not like I'm gonna work any harder now, because

638
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: that would imply that I haven't been working as hard

639
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: as I can, So I'm just going to continue working

640
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: as hard as i can to make sure that at

641
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: least on my part, I deliver and I make you,

642
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: my company, my co workers, my fans, and everybody between proud.

643
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is what a time to be, not

644
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: just in wrestling, but Ring of Honor specifically because of

645
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: how much the company's grown in the last couple of years.

646
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: This is like, Hey, you're welcome, guys. This is for you,

647
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and it's it's so such a cool feeling, man,

648
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: it really is. Everybody's so excited.

649
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. When this takes place

650
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: in Madison Square Garden, are you going to go and

651
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: try to find the seat that you set in when

652
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: you went to the garden?

653
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: I mean I sent in so many different seats so

654
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: it'd be hard to find and they were pretty high up.

655
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: So it'll it'll be cool. It'll be on this side

656
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: actually performing. You know. I've been at the garden, you know,

657
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: and as an extra you know, before, but not not

658
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: where I am at today obviously.

659
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, where you.

660
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 3: Walk down the ramp, you hear your music, you hear

661
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: their name, and it'll.

662
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Be my music. It'll be about me. I'll be performing,

663
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: I'll be the star, and I'll you know, it's just

664
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: I can't believe that this, Like I said, I can't

665
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: believe this is real life.

666
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: You know.

667
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: We we work so hard and we have dreams and everything,

668
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: but when they come true or when things that unexpected

669
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: like this, I like, like I said, I really wasn't

670
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: expecting to ever really really be you know, featured in

671
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Mansesterka Garden. Now this is an actual possibility. It's you

672
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: lose words. But yeah, when I get there, I'm definitely

673
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: gonna want to take a tour around the building by myself,

674
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, before the fans come in, because of so

675
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: many memories that I had there as a kid, and

676
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of take it in before everybody

677
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: gets it, because once people start showing up, you know,

678
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 2: you kind of get in the zone and you stop.

679
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: I can't focus on the moment as far as you know, here,

680
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: guys like I enjoy it out there, really appreciate, you know,

681
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: look around, and when I do that, I feel like

682
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: I leave my focus right and it's happened to me

683
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: before where I'll look around and I really try to

684
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: take it in and it it really almost backfires on

685
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: me where it's like, oh wait, I got to reset

686
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: myself to get ready for the match and be ready

687
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: for that attitude that I need to have to put

688
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: on a certain performance, and people really feel that energy

689
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: for me. So I'd like to do that before the shows,

690
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, so I'll be walking around and kind of

691
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: enjoying that part and then hopefully just deliver along with

692
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 2: everybody else in the company and New Japan.

693
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: That's going to be crazy looking forward to that. My guest,

694
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: Punishment Martinez is hanging out with US. Ring of Honor

695
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: is in town this weekend. What is I guess Punishment's

696
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: dream match? Who are you going against? Any title in

697
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: the world on the line? Your match?

698
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: What is it? Well, I mean, I'd be silly if

699
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: I didn't say that facing the Undertaker wouldn't be a

700
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: dream when he's the person that really got me obsessed with.

701
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: That was kind of what I was going to say.

702
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: It would be my dreamatch you two because I see

703
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of Undertaker and you doing your matches

704
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 3: and I was like, if these two could go at.

705
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: It, Well, I'm glad you say that, you know, because

706
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: that's a in a respect way. I try to do

707
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: that where I try to show aspects of him because

708
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: he is the reason why I decided this is what

709
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to do in my life. So for me,

710
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: that would be the ultimate dream match. I don't know

711
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: if that one's a possibility, just because it's twenty eighteen,

712
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: you know, and I know his years of winning down

713
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: and whatnot, So that would be the ultimate one. But now,

714
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: you know, as far as within reachable capacity, you know,

715
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: with the Ring of Honor and New Japan simlo, for me,

716
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: it's always of course that there's so much talent that

717
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I could really pick out anybody and have these incredible,

718
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, fantastic matches. So for me, it's well, let's

719
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: go for the top guys. Then let's go for the champions.

720
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: So right now the champions keny Omega and New Japan.

721
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: So that would be one. If Okada, you know, was

722
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: it still the champion, I'd be saying Okata, Tanahashi or

723
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: you know whoever, So right now I would have to

724
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: be Okada and jay Lee, so who I've already had

725
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: matches with, but headline a show like a pay per

726
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: view for the world title, that would be something special.

727
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: Uh so though these are the like for me, the

728
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: immediate dream matches are against the guys that are the

729
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: main draw, the main attraction, you know, because that means

730
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: that there's more attention on what we're doing, you know.

731
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: But to pick somebody over another because I think what

732
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: I think of their innerring ability, doubt's really difficult, just

733
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: because there's so much talent today, I think, more than

734
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: any time in the history of pro wrestling everywhere, not

735
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: just in major companies, there's everywhere, you know, independent companies alike,

736
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: in different parts of the world. There's so many good

737
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: pro wrestlers. To pick one just because of ability would

738
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: be I think, doing a disservice to everybody else. So

739
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: I'll stick with the main eventors in every company. That's

740
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: why I want to work with you know.

741
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: I got to say, you talked about Kenny Omega. I

742
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: would definitely pay big money to see that match you

743
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: two going at it like that would be a dream

744
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: match in my opinion.

745
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he uh, I mean he's good. Huh yeah.

746
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, watching your career go up,

747
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: I was like, this is it, Like I see you

748
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: as the face one day.

749
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the goal and that's what we all

750
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: strive for. At least that's what we should or else

751
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: there's no reason, you know, to be doing this. So

752
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: for me, it's to keep moving up the ladder because

753
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: I do want to end up being an attraction. I

754
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: do want to end up being the main event, the

755
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: main guy in the company, the company, the guy that

756
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: the company puts you know, it's stocking and puts that

757
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: rocket and shoots him through the moon. And I said this,

758
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: you know, a last month before my pay per view

759
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: match with Page, where it was like, well, what's your

760
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: issue with Page? It was like, well, because we both

761
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: see each other as that guy. We know we're being

762
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 2: primed and we're getting ready to go to that next step,

763
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: next level, to the main event scene and stay there

764
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: and not look back. And I think we're both kind

765
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: of like, well, if this is basically we're in the

766
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: same boat at the opposite ends, why shouldn't we cross

767
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: paths like this? This should be a problem. We should

768
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: have an issue with each other them for just the

769
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: sake of competition, you know. And that was my main

770
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: issue with him, as far as like our feud. It

771
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: was like, well, what's the point of your feedo like

772
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: because we want to be the guy, right, you know,

773
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: so why wouldn't you want to dethrown that guy? I

774
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 2: think back to the nineties again with Rock and Hunter,

775
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: you know, those guys, they were the next crop of

776
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: guys that were going to be at the top, so

777
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: it made sense that they feuded first before they were

778
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: there to kind of solify who was who, and then

779
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: it just continued on. I can I fully expect to

780
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: continue feuding with him and others like Scorpios guy that

781
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: I'll be facing this weekend. So for me, you know, yes,

782
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: I do see myself there because that's what I'm working

783
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: hard for. Is that the way life works. Of course,

784
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: not just because you work hard on something doesn't mean

785
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: that it's you know, you deserve it. That's not real life.

786
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: You know, Sometimes the the least deserving person, you know, wins.

787
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: You know, It's just that's just the way it goes.

788
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: But I really do believe you put yourself in the

789
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: best position possible to achieve certain things putting into work.

790
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: So if as long as I continue to do that,

791
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: I expect to have those type of dream matches with

792
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: Kenny omega O Katabushi. You know again, main eventing with

793
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: guys like Jay Letho and Cody and you know, and

794
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: so far and so on. So as long as I

795
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: put into work, I really do believe those things are

796
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: achievable and and it'll happen. Man.

797
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: I will say this, I'm looking forward to seeing what

798
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: the future holds for Punishment's career. Like I've been follow

799
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: Like I said, I've been following your career and just

800
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: seeing everything in the steps and then putting that that

801
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: right there just shows that they're looking at you as

802
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: the next guy. And I'm very excited to see how

803
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: your career is going to go.

804
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, I really do. And I appreciate that

805
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: people notice, you know, because it's not that we need

806
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: people to kind of tell us and you know, pat

807
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: us in the back and everything. But once in a while,

808
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: it's good to hear that people take notice that you're

809
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, what you're doing, and how hard of a

810
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: struggle that you've dealt with and and things you overcame

811
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: and you know, and where you are today and how

812
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: you keep trying to move forward. So it's it's always

813
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: cool to hear and I appreciate it.

814
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: And no problem. Last question, and this is this is

815
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: going to be a fun one. When does Punishment get

816
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 3: his own pop figure?

817
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

818
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: You know.

819
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: I had a fan make me one. When we were

820
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: at the World the World's Tour, the last one in Canada.

821
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: One of the guys came up to me, He's like, hey,

822
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: a fan dropped us off and it was I had

823
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: my own. It was a figure that they made for me,

824
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is really cool. I was like, hey,

825
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: r h, when you're getting a neo guys, you know,

826
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: when's this happening? I want to legit one in stores.

827
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't control those things,

828
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: and obviously I'm not at the fame level as the

829
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: Bullet Club guys and and everything. So but again, you know,

830
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: we keep moving forward and keep climbing that ladder and hopefully,

831
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: you know, more things like that come, and you know

832
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: it won't just be fan made. It will be actually,

833
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: you know, company based products that will be in stores.

834
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: And you know, those are also goals and dreams that

835
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: you can have, and I think they're also achievable. So

836
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: hopefully soon, man I asked I could say about that.

837
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: I wish I could control it, but I don't, but

838
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: hopefully soon.

839
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: Well cool my guest Punishment Martinez is hanging out with us.

840
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: He's at Ring of Honor this weekend, putting the title

841
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: up on the line. Definitely should check it out. One

842
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: more question for those that are still kind of new

843
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: to Ring of Honor, what can they see at a

844
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: Ring of Honor show compared to the other companies.

845
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, like I said before, you know, we pride ourselves

846
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: and being the best professional wrestling company in the world,

847
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: not just hey, we're going to entertain you however we

848
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: can no, No, we're a professional wrestling company. So we're

849
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: going to entertain you with professional wrestling, and not one

850
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: person mails it in at any point in time. So

851
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: you're going to see an action packed show that's for

852
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: basically for the whole family. And we we strive to

853
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: put on the best performance possible every single night, no

854
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: matter where we are on the card, no matter what

855
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: state or country we're in. So when you see it,

856
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: you're gonna see guys literally putting their lives on the

857
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: line for your entertainment. And not to take anything away

858
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: from any other company, but these guys are just phenomenal.

859
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: I look around the locker room, sometimes when I'm in

860
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: all and I as a fan, I'm still very much

861
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: a fan. I sit backstage and watch through the curtain

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: to watch matches and be entertain myself. So if me

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Speaker 2: being in the business, I could still get entertained by

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Speaker 2: my co workers, I fully expect fans to feel that tenfold.

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Speaker 2: So if you're new or you haven't really seen anything yet,

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Speaker 2: I would strongly suggest checking it out and you won't

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Speaker 2: be disappointed, especially showing up live to an event. There's

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Speaker 3: Once again, my guest Punishment Martinez is hanging out with us.

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Speaker 3: He's at Ring of Honor this weekend. It's at Minnesulata

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Speaker 3: to WHEM. You still get tickets. He's going to be

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Speaker 3: there with the belts and man, dude, thank.

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Speaker 2: You so much for stopping by my pleasure, thanks for

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Speaker 2: having me. We hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Battleground.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you give it five stars and leave a

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Speaker 2: nice review.

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Speaker 3: at Battleground Podcast on Instagram.