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Speaker 1: Okay today, honest I want you to say, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the me Eater podcast and Lavian you can't give me

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Speaker 1: Meta podcast and Laban and then introduce everyone in Lavian.

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Speaker 1: Spade and Nan Ms knock him shorty in No Bozeman, Montana.

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Speaker 1: Met Podcast leads in st Steve Ornella, Ryan Callahan, Britney Brothers,

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Speaker 1: Helen Shoe, Jan Pool telling ladies, gentlemen, and Latvian. We're

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Speaker 1: recording the media podcast out of Bowsman, Montana. We're in

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Speaker 1: a place called Flats on Maine, joined by Ryan Callahan

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Speaker 1: of he's famous for working at First Light, and he's

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Speaker 1: famous for um his mustache, and he's famous for saying

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Speaker 1: once addressing a bear, smell us, not a lady. And

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Speaker 1: Brittany Brothers who works with us at meat Eater, Helen Shoe,

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Speaker 1: at meat Eater. And we just got back from Helen

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Speaker 1: and Britney's firs hunt. We're gonna talk about first hunts.

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Speaker 1: But first I was talkt with something that happened to

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Speaker 1: So apparently these guys up in this area had gotten

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Speaker 1: They're already jump, you know, both feet in earlier started

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00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: with like a squirrel hunt, you know, and and then

426
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: go to it. Let me put it this. We didn't

427
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: want we didn't want that, Yeah, like just because we're women,

428
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: we didn't want to be you know, like I'm just saying,

429
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: did you exactly exactly exactly? They went to hunt deer

430
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: at Bubbly Doug's not the first time, the first time

431
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: they went to Montana deer not in the damn mountains,

432
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: not out be honest. How long did it take you?

433
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're you know, you're a rambunctious male.

434
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to kill an Elk?

435
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: Took me three years and I grew up in Montana

436
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: bumbling around the woods. Why do we weird deal because

437
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: my first elk hunt was it was a drop camp,

438
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: and then we did so poorly in the first four

439
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: days that the outfitter that put us in this cabin,

440
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: my father and a friend his. We did so poorly

441
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: they invited us over for dinner. We're like, there's no

442
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: elk in these hills. We got ripped off. We roll

443
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: over to the main camp. Super yeah. We rolled into

444
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the main camp. They're like, oh, we killed six bowls

445
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: and we were tagged out three days ago. You know, like, really,

446
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: there's holk in these hills. So the outfiter took pity

447
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: and took us up the hill. Next day about killed

448
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: my dad and his buddy. Going up the hill, I

449
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: just stop and be like, dude, serious, I think my

450
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: dad's gonna like not make it up this hill if

451
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: we don't slow down. Anyways, we make it up there.

452
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 1: He takes me into the woods. Right, we've been hung

453
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: in the same area all week. We walk in there,

454
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: he bugles one time. I'm like, wow, that's kind of cool.

455
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: You know, we're sitting there in like thirty seconds later,

456
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: here you know, stick pops and here comes the herd

457
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: coming up through the timber. This is the outfit or

458
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: you know, like he took me out like twenty cows

459
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: filtered through the timber, like fifty six yards, then to

460
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: five point bulls come up to about fifty six yards

461
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: and the first one turns around, starts sparring with the

462
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: second one, and they spa in front of us for

463
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: like ten minutes, just like a nice light little you know,

464
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: kind of later October sparring definitely inspired by the bugle

465
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: the outfitter sets. Of course, it was like, yeah bugles once,

466
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: it was the you know, no no, no no, no, no,

467
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: that just made him come up through this area. Anyways,

468
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: I gotta hang out with that guy. What's this guy's number?

469
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Round up the herd? Yeah he doesn't he retired, but yeah,

470
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: I hit the bull, but but I lost did Yeah,

471
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: the first bull I ever killed. I didn't find him.

472
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Somebody else found him like four days later. But that

473
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: right there put the drive and me to, you know,

474
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: make better next time. But then basically by a year

475
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: later thing six days, sixty five days later I was

476
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: an elk hunting guide. It better, maybe sixty minutes together

477
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: in the woods, and then me calling him the following

478
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: months saying, hey, I need one of those beagle tubes.

479
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 1: How did you do that? YadA, YadA, YadA. He's like,

480
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: you know what, why don't you come up and you

481
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: know spa on spending three months in the fall with me.

482
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: I would uh run around the woods from an hour

483
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: in the morning. Then I would like sand and staying

484
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: cabins all day long, and they would run around the

485
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: woods for about an hour in the evening. For when

486
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: you take your first client out that next fall. How

487
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: were you? H'm just killing that here. I think I

488
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: had a couple of misses. Um, but I didn't have

489
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: anybody been in on in your career guided or including

490
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Speaker 1: my own, No, your own, you guiding friends, I don't

491
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Speaker 1: He did you think it was a good idea to

530
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: take these guys? Like, no one gets to go hunt

531
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: for their first hunt unless it's unheard up. You know what,

532
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: My first hunt was chipmunks. For like years, we hunted

533
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: chipmunks and we smiled about it. And we didn't have

534
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: chipmunks to hunt. We hunted pine squirrels. We didn't have that.

535
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: We got the okay to hunt first starlings because they

536
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: were introduced. It's not that we don't want to hunt squirrels.

537
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: We do. You know you didn't want to do anything,

538
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: but and I understand why, Well, no, we didn't specifically

539
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: say I don't remember were saying we wanted to want

540
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: to hunt Montana or right. We wanted to do something

541
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: that was going to be challenging, you felt, you know,

542
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: and I love where your head's at Montana or Alaska.

543
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: That's yeah. But elk is just I mean, as you know.

544
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Now again, I don't think we did not gus by elk. No.

545
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: And in fact, at Shacho last year, we were sitting

546
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: at dinner. Remy was there and he I remember him saying,

547
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: you can't. You should not go for elk is your

548
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: first hunt, because you guys, if you get an elk,

549
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: you'll be ruined. That's what he said. Yeah, remember that. Yeah,

550
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: I told Bratty this four or five times, at least

551
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: yether day I haunted. I moved to Montana and haunted elk,

552
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, twenty or so days that year, hunted out

553
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: twenty or so days, and next year, and then killed

554
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: an elk the third year, and by then i'd probably

555
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: I'd probably killed my elk on my first elk, which

556
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: was a calf that I shot with my bow, and

557
00:33:53,760 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: probably my forty five day of elk hunting. Sounds about right. Yeah,

558
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what the point of this. Yeah, you

559
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: guys trying to make us feel that I'm not. I'm

560
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: just saying that we're just it's a good idea to

561
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 1: take people on their first ever any hunt of any

562
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: kind on a on an elk con And it's just

563
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: like it depends on the person. I'm trying to think

564
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: of parallels. I'm trying to think of parallels, like I'm

565
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: trying to think like sexual things or food things or whatever.

566
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: It'd be like I think a lot of them, but

567
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: that's not really appropriates. It's so challenging, Like for me,

568
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: it was one of the biggest accomplishments, you know, to date.

569
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: At that point, I was like, I actually I finally

570
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: did it, Like this is an help, Yeah, just it

571
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: finally happened because there were so many days and so

572
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: many failures, and so many days without ever seeing or hearing,

573
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, deciphering like you know, two weeks old wind

574
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: Loan elk crap in the pentlers, Like I guess they're here.

575
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: I'll just keep walking, you know. I mean, it's a

576
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: very challenging hunt to start out with. So, um, well,

577
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: what do you guys think should be like our first

578
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: or what do you think would be a good like

579
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: the first first five hunts for somebody squirrels and cotton

580
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: tail rabbits for a year, and then they should do

581
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: some deer hunting. I think ducks and geese are fantastic

582
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: to get a shoot. Not that any wrong. What happened

583
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: you guys got the major crash course. So we want

584
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: this place. We want this this small island mountain chain

585
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: and mountain range. And we set up a tent camp

586
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: in a little canyon bottom um and started hunting. We

587
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: had four four whole hunt days. And the way this

588
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: place works this there's this sort of this resident herd

589
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: in this mountain range numbers anywhere, depending on the air,

590
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: from two four hundred animals. And they tend to, depending

591
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: on who you ask, either they spend their entire year

592
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: all balled up in a big ball, or they once

593
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: the weather turns bad, they ball up into a big ball.

594
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: And if you've never owned up for it's like there's

595
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: this there's this term used in elk counting called like

596
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: the herd, right, and if you imagine that you go

597
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: to your buddy's farm, he would never and you're hunting

598
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: white tails, he would never be like the herd will

599
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: come through here in the morning because like the deer

600
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: maintained individual identities, you know, like there's like the white

601
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: tail hangs out here in some white tails hang out

602
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: there and like they might come out into the field

603
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: at night, but that doesn't mean that they all are.

604
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: But in this mountain chain, this range that you call

605
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: the chain, like a small range, this big wat of

606
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: elk is only in one place at any even times.

607
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: So it's essentially to to a to a degree, it's

608
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: almost is like you're hunting one animal, but it just

609
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: happens to be many, many tons and spread out over,

610
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, a big area, just this heard about that

611
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: drifts around. And the goal every day and you wake

612
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: up is to try to find like the herd and

613
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: it's six d I don't know, three eyeballs staring at you,

614
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: looking for you, you know, and you're trying to intercept

615
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: this this moving target as this heard runs around. So

616
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: we started out just by climbing essentially climbing up into

617
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: the into the high country to try to glass up animals.

618
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: And nobody had ever hunted here before, none of us

619
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: have been there before. Talk to some guys that do

620
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: hunt there. We open up some maps, we get given

621
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: some maps. Yanni printed out some maps. A guy said,

622
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: here's a couple of good glass and spots. And the

623
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: first morning we're out. I go to the first good

624
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: glass and spot and lone behold, there's two people there.

625
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: And he's said, like the guy that gave me the tip,

626
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: failing that, go to this glass and spot and go there,

627
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: and there's four people on that glass in spot. We

628
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: saw that night after hunt all day we finally saw

629
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: two spike both. I think I was home with Brittany.

630
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: Steve and Brittany. We're a team. Ryan Callahan and Helm

631
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: were a team. So our first day we pounded the

632
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: glass saw more mule deer than fella has a right

633
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: to see every book. Who had his nose up a

634
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: doze ass just rutting way hard. Brittany glassed up a man,

635
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: another hunter who was defecating, and there's a lot of

636
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: First it struck me the the indifference this man had

637
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: to his his little creation there. Didn't do just stepped,

638
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: pulled down his pants, did his thing. His friends, friends

639
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: are right in front of him. Does it very brisk

640
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: little clean up, just kind of throws the toilet paper

641
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: to the wind, pulls his pants back up, takes two

642
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: or three steps, glances back, you know, just to see

643
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: like just checking out his health or whatever. And that

644
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: has followed his buddies back to the truck. I understand

645
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: anything like it. The only people watching complete disregard for

646
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: all the people who are just pounding glass that day,

647
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: and happened to be wondering about what was wrong with

648
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: the guy somebody that might be walking that trail or yeah,

649
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: or the guy whoever owns the lamp. So we glassed

650
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: from a number of high points that day and saw

651
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of bucks, and then we um went back

652
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: at at dark. At dusk, we went back to another

653
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: prominent point that was a positioned way above camp and

654
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: spotted up a couple of spikes and but the problem

655
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: is this area we're in, Um, can's gotta find cow out?

656
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: And then climbed down and that was your That was

657
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: like your first elk right, Oh absolutely, yeah, I mean

658
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was incredible. It was like, first of all,

659
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking all over the place. I finally spotted like

660
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: some muleteer. That was the first thing that I pard Yeah, um,

661
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: and then you spotted that, which I was like, I

662
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: have no, I couldn't find him on binoculars. You pulled

663
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: them up on the spotting pull pull up kout. Yep,

664
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: you guys saw kat. He's looking like he's all majestic

665
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: up on this peak. Yeah, she got onto scope and

666
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: found another one. He had a body with him yea um.

667
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that was like the the coolest

668
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen, like I had. I mean, I've

669
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: seen pictures of elk, but i'd never like seen one

670
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: probably in real life like that. So better than Google images,

671
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: better than goes easily. We get down to Can't that

672
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: night and Callahan comes down and his his story is

673
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: looking in the same area he saw spike and maybe

674
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: a cow, you know, the dark one. I just couldn't

675
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: find horns and the spotting scope was that the only

676
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: Alky guys found that day. No, we saw a bull

677
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: uh um in the other drainage, all bedded down by

678
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: himself the middle of the day he was out. We

679
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: saw him first thing in the morning, he was bedded down,

680
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: and then at like eleven o'clock in the morning he's

681
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: up feeding on this wide open hills. And at that

682
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: point I was like, this is gonna be good like

683
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: or this elk knows that this is a general tag

684
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: cow only area. The King's X Yeah, nobody can touch him.

685
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: So but I mean, for Helen right, we saw mule

686
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: deer at off off the bat later on that would

687
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: not be such a novelty. And then we saw the

688
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: two spikes that you guys saw, but there was also

689
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: a five point bowl in there that you guys didn't

690
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: see that we saw. And yeah, I mean that that

691
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: pretty much was it. But then we saw those what

692
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: turned out to be the two spikes come back out

693
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: of the timber at last night, after we spent all

694
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: day on top of the mountain bucking the wind, and

695
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: Janice got in a lot of push ups, got in

696
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: a lot of team up. Our second day out, we

697
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: just talk about second day. I was still the first day.

698
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: That was all the first day. That was all the

699
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: first day we did the big hike. Uh, correct me

700
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, please, But Helen looks stunned. Helen looked

701
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: like she had had the shock and all campaign done

702
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: to her. That, yes, my impression. Also, I tried to

703
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: pick the most efficient way up the mountain that still

704
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: got us to the top of the mountain in in

705
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: a timely fashion. And um, what did you what were

706
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: you so shocked? And not about? I mean, I don't

707
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: know everything. You weren't yourself. It was the most mind

708
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: blowing yourself. I think it was after the first day.

709
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: Only the first day we kept me, are you okay, Like, yeah,

710
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm okay. What I was just being quiet. I think

711
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: I was just like taking it all in, you know, right.

712
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: I think it was more that than like being like

713
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: worked over anything like that, because you told me numerous times,

714
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: You're like, man, I just can't believe I'm here. I

715
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm on the side of this mountain. I

716
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm way up on this mountain and looking

717
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: at it all this like it's just so much. That

718
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: morning Trophy Country, and that morning when we finally got

719
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: to the top, we got the top, and when we

720
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: drove into this mountain range, everything was the skies were

721
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: clear everywhere, but the mountain was shrouded in clouds. Then

722
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: we slept in our tents and woke up and climbed

723
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: up and before it got light out and got to

724
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain and it was reversed. The

725
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: top of the mountain was sunny and you were looking

726
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: out at a sea of clouds below you. It was

727
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: like you were it was like you're on everests. Man,

728
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: it's amazing. And there's and then they got clear a

729
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: little bit and there's snow underground and Mulder, to me

730
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: are ghosts. Like against the snow, Elk looked like orange

731
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: and warm, but like Mulder looked just like a little

732
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: like ghosts, you know, like a little haunted apparitions. Man,

733
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: They're just like crawled that day. It was November nineteen,

734
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: just box everywhere. That was an amazing day. I think

735
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: it's also really cool is like to see how train

736
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: the hunter's eyes, you know, like even when we're driving around,

737
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: like Steve would be like, oh, look there's a man dragon,

738
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: a colbody in the back here. You're like, where do

739
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: you see that? You know? Or like or like Ryan

740
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: would you just be like, you know, walking around and

741
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: be like two bucks, Like I'm like looking to my

742
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: min oculars, like you know, I'm like shaking, like where

743
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: do you see that? He's like with your with your

744
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: naked eye, and how in the world did you see that?

745
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: Like it's like could be a tree, it could be

746
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: a bush. Like it's it's completely an acquired thing. Yeah.

747
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: I felt like towards the end, you know, I was

748
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: like more careful, had a system going of like hot

749
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: glass and like, yeah, it's totally acquired, just like having

750
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: a game eye. It's just I think you get a

751
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: sense of the shapes, like shapes and colors. I really don't.

752
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: I don't know movement shapes and colors. Like an is

753
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: like deer and elk, they have eyes that are um

754
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: out to the sides of their head. They have a

755
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: poor ability to focus on things, but they have a

756
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: great depth or what do you call it, peripheral great

757
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: peripheral vision to see movement. I think, like picking up

758
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: my movements really important. But we have like eyes centered

759
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: in the front like predators, and um, we can make

760
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: out shapes really well. So I think it's just kind

761
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: of like a movement shape thing and color thing. Because

762
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: when you're hunting, you spot your first something. It might

763
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: take you forever to find spot your first something, and

764
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: then you spot it and you know what you're looking for,

765
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the landscape comes alive with it.

766
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, now I see what that thing looks like.

767
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: And then you're also like, oh, there that is there?

768
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: That is there? That is um second day, we go

769
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: out and Callahan had gone off after the spikes to

770
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: see who else is hanging out there. We saw those

771
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: leaves and then we had just a rip snorton of

772
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: a climbing day. I don't think aiming happened that day, No,

773
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: I mean that was when we That was the first

774
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: day we I think we attacked the like the screen

775
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: slide area did have that day. Right at dark, we

776
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: saw four cows, two fours, two dark, way far away,

777
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: way far away, mayards away going the other direction, spooped.

778
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: But those you can see with without binoculars easily. Yeah,

779
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: that was exciting. I was laying some deep stuff on

780
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: you too when I spotted him. Oh yeah, we were

781
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: talking about hunters, talk about female hunters. What are you

782
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: guys talking about? We're talking about female hunters. I was

783
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: giving the pros and cons, pros and cons of female hunters. Well,

784
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: your cons were more. The cons were more just like

785
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: about new hunters and hunters in general. My like, for instance,

786
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: my brother. I was explaining to to Britney my brother. Okay,

787
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: me back up one step. What was the most disappointing

788
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: thing the first day we hunted? What was the thing

789
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: we talked about most How many hunters there were other

790
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: hunters looks like a pumpkin patch on some of the hills, right,

791
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Orange Vessel everywhere, other hunters. Everyone knows. You go out

792
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: hunting and you see other hunters, you're like son of

793
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: a bit, you know. He's like, no one wants to

794
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: run a new bunch of other hunters. But on the

795
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: other hand, I talk about an advocate to some extent

796
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: hunter recruitment, and my thinking is that if if, if

797
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: we have more hunters, we have more political clout, and

798
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: we have more cloud un conservation issues, and we're a

799
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: stronger voice. Right, My brother thinks that hunter recruitment, He's like,

800
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: why would you ever want more hunters? Why would you

801
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: want more times when you're out in the woods and

802
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: there's no place to go. And he says, in the

803
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: same people to talk about hunter recruitment talk about access issues.

804
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: There's not enough access. Why is there not enough access?

805
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: Because there's too many hunters for how much space we

806
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: have done, it's too hard to get tags, like you

807
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: can draw your whole life and not get such and

808
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: such tags. And he says the only people that really

809
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: want huntery cruitment is the industry because they want to

810
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: sell more gear to more people, and so they camouflage

811
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: their desire to make customers as being something that's for

812
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: the betterment of hunting, okay, And I was laying us

813
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: all out so and all of a sudden, here's his

814
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: elk go in the other direction. And I optimistically thought

815
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: we caught him where that we knew where there at betting,

816
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: and they were coming out to feed that they looked

817
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous. And the next day we go

818
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: down and realize that some guy had been running around

819
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: on the side by side like a quad runner, and

820
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: he come right down through that timber patch and clearly

821
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: had spit those elk out spooked him out of there

822
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: that day for us. Did you lay any heavy stuff

823
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: on Helen? I don't think so, did I I think

824
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: that until we saw that heard. Yeah, and and that

825
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: intimately made it was like the highest high and the

826
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: lowest slow in the exact in the in the same moment, right,

827
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: I mean that was awesome. Well, why is that what happened? Well,

828
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: we were sitting up on this mountain and ripping wind. Yeah,

829
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, we were just trying to keep warm, and

830
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: while we're eating snacks and doing jumping jacks, the herd

831
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: of elk had heard had just passed us. By, and

832
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: we didn't even we didn't even hear them. We were

833
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: making a very what we were doing. You're having like

834
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: a gym class of the wind was you know, the

835
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: wind was housing and we're making a very calm mistake.

836
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: We make it often. A lot of hunters make it often.

837
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: We're sitting on top of some peak and where everybody's

838
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: looking at like a half mile plus, nobody's even thinking

839
00:50:53,239 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: about like that role that like inst every five minutes,

840
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna walk out, tune your yards and peek over

841
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: that edge. A lot could be going on, and obviously

842
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot went on. And every every time I went

843
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: to peak it was purely because I was freezing. So

844
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna walk down this hill and

845
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: walk back up. And so one of these points, you

846
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: guys are having a little gym class out there, strolls by,

847
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: a couple head out. I literally making our second round

848
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: of sandwiches for today, Like you were on sandwich position. Yeah,

849
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: my better pot part there. Yahni was like, don't have

850
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: another bar, have a sandwich, and while you're at it,

851
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: make me so how over and we're like, yeah, we're

852
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: going to leave for tour. We're two cold we're gonna

853
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: walk around and we see the tracks and everyone just

854
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: stops and it's like, can you do you guys, Like,

855
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: this is not the This didn't just happen right, Like,

856
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: we didn't just miss like hundreds of elk just going

857
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: by right in front of us tracks on top of

858
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: our tracks. And you one of the trails was like

859
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: a foot and a half beat. Yeah, like it was

860
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: a thundering herd. That's crazy. So then immediately we you know,

861
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: go down that hill and try to try to follow them, yeah,

862
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: to see if you know, I mean, we don't. It

863
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: looks super fresh. Were like maybe they didn't go too far.

864
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: And as we're walking, Ryan just like slow down, get

865
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: down right there, you know. Um, so what do we do?

866
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: We did we do the slide down? We did this?

867
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: We did slide Yeah. So uh it's like a yoga

868
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: position or something almost y're at You're on your heels,

869
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 1: your hands and the heels of your boots and you're

870
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: like crab walking with your rightfule in your lap. It's

871
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: the most deadly approach. I think we never did that.

872
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: It's tough on me. Right, check check this one out,

873
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, speak its deadly approaches some conditions you have

874
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: to be coming down. What's deadly about it is when

875
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: you get with the thermals are right, or the winds right,

876
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: and the winds blowing uphill, and you're above elk, and

877
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: they always are not always they tend to look downhill.

878
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: One The assumption is that trouble's coming from down there.

879
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm at the kind of the top. Anyways, I need

880
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: to watch down and you're up above them and your

881
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: crab walking and your crab walking down, sliding along with

882
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: your weapon bow or rifle in your lap. And then

883
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: when it happens, you just sit up and do it.

884
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: You just sit up and well, I think it's also

885
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: worth mentioning that when we go on hunts, it's not

886
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: just like two people. You know, we have cameraman and

887
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: it's like not you know, so it's a group of

888
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: people trying to do the same thing, trying to capture

889
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, the heard I was complaining about that very

890
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: fact today. What that is a group of people get

891
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean with what like forty yards less forty yards

892
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: something insane? You know, you didn't shoot any with a rifle, however,

893
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: did not what was the shooting situation? So we were

894
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: looking downhill and there they were, you know, and I

895
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: was like, this is this is my moment, Like this

896
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: is this is going to happen right now. And I'm

897
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: looking through the scope and Ryan's like, you have to

898
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: find your shot. You have to find your shot. Make

899
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: sure there's no elk behind them, um behind the cow.

900
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: So I'm scanning across and it's just they're everywhere. I'm like,

901
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I could shoot any one of these elk, just pick one,

902
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: you know. But as I'm scanning a ass, it's like

903
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: I could see I'm like, I would stop at one

904
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: and be like, I've got a shot. As soon as

905
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: I thought I had a shot, I would see a

906
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: head from behind just creep up right behind it, or

907
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: like a butt of one just like slowly moved back,

908
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: you know. So and I guess one of them got

909
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: So the situation is if you take that shot, that

910
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: bullet could potentially pass through that animal that gave you

911
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: the nice, perfect Google image shot opportunity and injured or

912
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: kill another animal. I've seen it on several occasions. Right,

913
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: it does have right, And I didn't feel comfortable taking

914
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: the shot, you know, because I didn't know I couldn't

915
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: see what was behind it, so I wasn't for sure

916
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: that it was a clean shot. And how many animals

917
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: were there? I mean two hundred, right, I mean something

918
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: like a hundred and fifty two hundred, both bulls and cows,

919
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: you know. But I just couldn't see behind it. It

920
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: was just you know, too sloped, and I couldn't see

921
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: how far back they were. And then all of a sudden,

922
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, we kept You can never see through somebody

923
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: else's scope, right, you can't see exactly what they're they're saying.

924
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, well, look to the far left.

925
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: It's the far left there, that one from the left,

926
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: and it's literally it's like this swirling ball of elk,

927
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: and you know, for a brief second, one would you know,

928
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: from my perspective, like stand out just slightly apart from

929
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the group. Uh, And then all of

930
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: a sudden they were gone. And then they were gone,

931
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, like I mean long gone. Yeah.

932
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: I was like, that's it, it's over. Now was the

933
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: end of your second hun day? Ye? And I kept

934
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: asking everyone like did I have a shot? Because I

935
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: kept replaying that you know image, but there's no way

936
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: to answer that question, because that question is it's for

937
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: each person, right, I might be in a situation from

938
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: like I would have put a box of shells into

939
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: those out, but wouldn't be a shot for a lot

940
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: of other people. And there's other people who would have

941
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: said I would put two box of shells in those out.

942
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I didn't feel comfortable taking this hell

943
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: and kept saying to us, was great, there's two d

944
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: elk right in front of me, and I couldn't even

945
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: kill one, Like what what would people think? Like forty

946
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: yards away at two d I can't even kill one.

947
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: So that that to me kind of stood out was

948
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: like the lowest low of the whole. Huh. Yeah, it

949
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, it was amazing to see like

950
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: that many, you know, that many animals and that many elk.

951
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it was like it was

952
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: like almost like a tease, like there were all these

953
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: animals so close, yet I couldn't you know, I couldn't

954
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: make the shot. So it was definitely like, you know,

955
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: I had dreams about that, you know, from the eight

956
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: thousand pounds of elks. You know, it was the tease.

957
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 1: It happened exactly that way because it had to happen

958
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: that way, you know, right, the hunt went perfectly because

959
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: as you killed it then, I mean, think about what

960
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: you would have missed. It happened then after forty tons

961
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: about So now we're on the best conservative day three

962
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: here we wake up and I go down to reconnoiter

963
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: the five four or five cows and two spikes. Well,

964
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: go down there to reconnoiter it. Run into a bowl,

965
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: can't shoot it anyway. Realize that what bumped the elk

966
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: out of the timber patch wasn't that they're just moving

967
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: from that timber patch to feed them back into the

968
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: timber patch. But some guy was in there driving around,

969
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: got a side by side stuck in snow, and spook

970
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: the alco out of the timber patch. Gets set up

971
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: in the windiest place on the planet. A calf elt

972
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: comes pouring through a pass. We're going to try to

973
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: intercept the calf out and intercept a gentle named Kenny instead,

974
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: and had a long talk with Kenny. Never found the

975
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: calf Then Kenny informed us that um he in fact

976
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: was trespassing. Well, I'm not saying where he was or

977
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: what his name was, Kenny. I think there's a handful

978
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: of Kenny's run around Montana. I'm pretty sure it was

979
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: Kenny G the saxophonist. I'll let it out. It was

980
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: the saxophonist, and he was standing on public land, which

981
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: he didn't realize, but he had accessed it by cutting through,

982
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: so he's very frank about it. We had a nice

983
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: chat and it seemed like that was a common thing

984
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: because as we broke cant that's how it works. Yeah,

985
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 1: as we brought camp today, another fella and a young

986
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: gentleman came strolling up through our cane that we've been

987
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: camping for four days, you know that we had access to,

988
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: and they were just like, hey, yeah, we're supposed to

989
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: be here. Kind of really me when I don't know

990
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: what was funny there too? How do you guys find

991
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: out about this spot? When I told Kenny, I was like,

992
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, Kenny blm land not terribly.

993
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Wasn't like a surprised or happier disappointed by that information,

994
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: just irrelevant so trying to put the moves on his

995
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: calf could ever find it. I had just a miserable day,

996
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: glassed up some elk that were very far away on

997
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: what became known as stink hole Mountain, climbed up in there,

998
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: crawled a freaking mule deer couldn't find um, I couldn't

999
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: find the elk. But I just want to talk about

1000
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: that for a second, because the whole time, like I've

1001
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: been trudging up these mountains, hills, whatever you want to

1002
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: call them. But I want a little credit for hauling ass.

1003
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: At that point, I gave you a pep talk yeah

1004
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: and motivated you. It did well, And I mean it

1005
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: was just like over there you're saying it was your motivator.

1006
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: That wasn't that adrenaline. It was like right over there

1007
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: we had to get, you know, to cross all these

1008
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: other very large hilltops to get over there. And to

1009
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: clarify to one of those people on a weight loss

1010
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: TV program, I was so inspiring. It was like the

1011
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: Gettysburg address. Yeah, you need to find it in you

1012
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: to kill these out. And she just was like, you're right,

1013
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: damn it. What like, let's go to the beautiful you smart,

1014
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: intelligent man and see if that's really clarified. Though trudging

1015
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: is the correct term many many many times in now counting,

1016
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: it is one ft in front of the other. I

1017
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: gotta be frank, with you on that chase. I didn't

1018
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: realize that the hell hole that was between us and

1019
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: Stinkhole Mountain. And when we got to the bomb that thing,

1020
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: I looked up. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me.

1021
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: I did not feel like going up there. Then we

1022
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: tried to leave after dark by a strange route that

1023
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: brought us pretty much into Canada up three tests from

1024
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: mile from Canada watching side, a bunch of people walked

1025
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: down the road with the headlands and rifles, basically walking

1026
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: parallel to the border. In the middle of the night,

1027
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: Montana Militia North settled the score. That was our third

1028
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: day hunt. So we get a little have sat in

1029
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: the same spot essentially, Yeah, Ni les you guys too, right. Yeah,

1030
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: we're bouncing back and forth between two saddles all day long,

1031
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: working on a hunch that these elk are going to

1032
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: magically appear in one of these saddles. And we we're

1033
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: definitely seeing orange all day, popping in and out of

1034
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: some of the lower saddles and even right up where

1035
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: we are. And we go as far as building a

1036
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: blind because the forty mile per hour wind is right

1037
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: in your face. How did you construct that blindness? With

1038
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: some pine, some large pole bottles. We used juniper you know,

1039
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:03,479
Speaker 1: nice dance um and stacked it in with a bunch

1040
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: of you know, just dead fall and uh yeah, it

1041
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: worked out, worked out nice. You could just see right

1042
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: into the saddle. But the only problem was you just

1043
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: had this ripping wind right in your face and it

1044
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: wears you down. Man, it makes feel like you're losing

1045
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah. Absolutely. Mofolon told me last week. He said,

1046
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know what it is when I'm

1047
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: standing in the wind. I cannot think. He's like, I

1048
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: cannot form a thought. And yeah, I mean it definitely

1049
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: makes you think like that, um or not think. But

1050
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: so we're back. Really didn't move once we got to

1051
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: the top. We did not move all that much basically

1052
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: because we were every direction we wanted to go, there

1053
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: was somebody else already. You know. He came across milk tracks.

1054
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: We followed the Elk tracks. All of a sudden their

1055
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: boot tracks that dumped in on the Elk tracks. I

1056
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: had that problem a lot. Turn around, go back the

1057
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: other direction. We're like, well, maybe we'll go up to

1058
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: the other saddle, um where the you know, the herd

1059
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: came through the other day and I look up there

1060
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: and there's two people sitting up there. Um, so I

1061
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: guess you know, we're stuck. And then we get this

1062
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: distress call. Wasn't it was a well composed distress call,

1063
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: but it was we are going to need a pickup

1064
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: on the County Road in Canada. Basically, we're going to

1065
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: follow the strainage. We we're gonna follow this drainage to Alberta.

1066
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean we were probably an hour and

1067
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: a half from dark at that point, and you know,

1068
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: we were all the way on top. I wanted to

1069
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: play out to day, but you know, our friends are

1070
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: facing it along windy cold a couple of hours on

1071
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: the road no matter what at that point. So that's

1072
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: definitely wearing on us. Yeah, the road, like the mccormi

1073
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: mccarfew novel, The road that's our journey, that's our journey

1074
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: turned into when hours and hours went by and no

1075
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: sign of call, what six miles or more, we got

1076
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: off my map. We had a big map of the area.

1077
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know anymore. We just

1078
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: left the map miles ago and hour is out, you know,

1079
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: trying to like we're talking about trying to find a

1080
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: farmer and be like, oh yeah, and my bodies with

1081
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: the guns who are out in the ditch, they're gonna

1082
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: need to ride like, you know, the friendliest guy on

1083
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: the crew and then me a woman, so it's not

1084
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: like super creepy. And they're like, oh, I didn't mention

1085
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: my friends in the ditch with the rifles. They're open

1086
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: to catch a live too. They're pretty cool. We were

1087
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: like before we heard from you, snacks and coffee. They

1088
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: love them. So I'm having this internal crisis that I'm

1089
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: trying not to relate to Helen. So we're running out

1090
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: of time, all right, but I want to get this out.

1091
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: You want to finish up the hunt the blind. When

1092
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm constructing the blind, what you're like, does this ever work? Well?

1093
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: It just seems so perfect. You know, you were making

1094
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: it level to like my perfect you know, I was

1095
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: trying to get a good shot and whatnot. And you're like, yeah,

1096
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think things about these blinds

1097
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: is that you never stay here long enough for it

1098
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: to work, you know. So anyways, you get the distress

1099
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: call no, so like, well we'll walk around warm up.

1100
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: Then I want to end up at the blind because

1101
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: I just know the elk are gonna come through that

1102
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: saddle for some stupid reason. And we end up at

1103
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: the blind. The wind is just still just ripping through

1104
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: that saddle, and you know, the whole cur you know,

1105
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of like, well, should we just call it

1106
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: because we gotta go pick those guys up, and and

1107
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm torn, and I'm like, I want to sit this

1108
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: is gonna work. I want to sit here. And it's like, well,

1109
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be positive, you know, let's just you know,

1110
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: it's really windy, and I don't think anything's gonna come

1111
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: out early, So let's just get up on top of

1112
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: the next little knobs. We can look all the way

1113
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: down the ridge and look at the whole timberline. And

1114
01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: we walk two hundred yards words from the blind, and

1115
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: I look over and there's seven cow up staring at us,

1116
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: and I internally immediately I'm just like, you dumb, You're

1117
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: like what I was saying, No one stays in the

1118
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: blood that I mentioned. And so like I sit down,

1119
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: you know, Laura profile, and I'm halfheartedly and like, yeah,

1120
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: I get ready for the shot that's not gonna happen

1121
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: because there's no way in hell these chicks are gonna

1122
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: hang around long enough to provide a shot. And the

1123
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: grass is like three ft tall. For some reason, I'm

1124
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: just beat mentally at that. I was just like na,

1125
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, should have put around

1126
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: the chamber. And at right at that point, they all

1127
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: turn and blow into the timber, gone like ghosts vaporize,

1128
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: and I make second stupid decision of the day, which

1129
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: I never do because I've learned so many times it's

1130
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: a terrible decision, which is I leave our packs, like,

1131
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: just drop everything, frustrated, Like, just leave everything. We're gonna

1132
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: run up here to the next tree and see if

1133
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: for some reason we get a shot at something. So

1134
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: we drop our packs, run up to the next tree,

1135
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: which always leads to the next tree, and I'm just

1136
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: just sit here if they come back out again. Internal

1137
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: dialogues reading as there's no in hell these cows are

1138
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: gonna come back out again until dark. But if they

1139
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: come back out again, it's gonna be right at dark.

1140
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: So just get set up for a shot. As soon

1141
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: as you see you knows throw around in the chamber.

1142
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this all day. If you get

1143
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: a shot. Shoot, I'm gonna run back and grab her packs.

1144
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: So I take that opportunity to have a little alone time.

1145
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: I walk back your packs and beat myself up even

1146
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,440
Speaker 1: more about how I just screwed up the perfect opportunity

1147
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: that I just wasted an entire day of a four

1148
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: d a l hunt setting up, and I totally blew it.

1149
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I just ruined Helen's l count. I

1150
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: just ruined the entire opportunity, you know, that was it.

1151
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: And I pick up the packs. I turned around and

1152
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, what, what the what do you when

1153
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: people are frantically waving. I turn around and is there

1154
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of a jazz hand. Yeah, it's like they

1155
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: don't they don't want to really wave because they're afraid

1156
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna scare something off. But it's like, yeah, jazz hands,

1157
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: I think is what I was going for. And so

1158
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: now I sprint down to the tree with the packs

1159
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: and look around the tree and it was like, oh

1160
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: my god, look at and I see like four balls

1161
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: like the very tail end of the herd, and it's

1162
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: like three fifty yards and win. And so I'm like, okay,

1163
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: let's pick up the stuff. Let's go. We all butt

1164
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: up around the timber, drop half the packs, drop the

1165
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: tripod that we've been packing around, dropped the Helen's back, uh,

1166
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: and basically it's set for the sprint. And then we're

1167
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: cruising through the timber. And I mean, it's your story.

1168
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: Take it from there. What happened? I don't know. You

1169
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: were doing all this crazy like crouch running and crawling

1170
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: on the ground, and I was I felt like I

1171
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: was so awkward to the movements, like you were so

1172
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: graciously just like trudging through the snow, and every movement

1173
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, it's like wait on me, Like

1174
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't move fast enough, you know. And we don't

1175
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: remember what happened. Like we ran up to this one

1176
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: We've got this behind this one tree. The whole time

1177
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,440
Speaker 1: we were like we want to have some cover, right, um.

1178
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: So we get to this tree and we don't have

1179
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: the tripod um and you you're pointing them out again

1180
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: the hunter's eye, Like I'm like, I can't see them.

1181
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: It's like all the adrenalines, you know, rushing through me

1182
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: and I'm like I can't see them. You're like you're

1183
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: like breathe, like you see right there. You're pointing at

1184
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: all these different landmarks. You see the dark the dark

1185
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: patch of timber. Um. I find that in my scope,

1186
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: but it runs away, like basically as soon as I

1187
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: get in my scope, it just balks away. And I

1188
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: look at you and I'm like, this is happening again,

1189
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: Like it's in my scope, and then it's gone. And

1190
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: You're like, there's another one right to the left of it.

1191
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 1: Do you see that one? How like two d seventy

1192
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: yards maybe less or more. The furthest was like two

1193
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: sixty and the closest was and so so I see

1194
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: the one that he's talking about and I look at

1195
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: it in my scope, but then there's a bull in

1196
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: front of it, and I'm like, this is this is

1197
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: like replaying, This is like deja vu, just happening again.

1198
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: I don't have a shot. And as soon as I'm like,

1199
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still waiting, waiting, the bull just slowly

1200
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: walks away and it's like the cow elk is clear,

1201
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I was like so nervous, but

1202
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: like if we didn't have a stand, I'm like trying

1203
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: to sit down, trying to get a shot. But those

1204
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: all that, Um, what was it stage or something, but

1205
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: just grab sweet grass right so I couldn't I couldn't see,

1206
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,520
Speaker 1: so you were like, sit up, you prop up the backpack,

1207
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, and uh. And then I just look at round.

1208
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to shoot this cow. I'm at

1209
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: that point, I was kind of like, whoa, all of

1210
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: a sudden, that's like the most firm statement I've ever

1211
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: heard of. I'm gonna shoot and uh. And then because

1212
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: it was so windy, you had kind of pointed me

1213
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: to shoot um at the shoulder right and that was

1214
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 1: that and and and then I couldn't tell, like my

1215
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: hands were shaking. Afterwards, I was like I kept asking

1216
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: you like did I miss, like you know, and you

1217
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: you kept like walking like, let's walk forward, look through

1218
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: the binoculars, have your rifle ready, and you were like

1219
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: these things are tough, like you might have to shoot

1220
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: it again. And I looked you like what, like okay.

1221
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: It was very clear at that moment that nobody had

1222
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: said hey, sometimes you know sitting there, um, so yeah,

1223
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: we're getting close to it. And you kept looking through

1224
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: the blockers. I kept looking through my blockers, but my

1225
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: hands was shaking. So you kept being like what do

1226
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: you see And I was like, I can't see anything

1227
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: my hands, um, but yeah, you know, we approached it

1228
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: and it was amazing. It was just like one of

1229
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: the most amazing spe um. I don't know I was

1230
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: telling I think I was telling you guys earlier, like

1231
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: I felt. I was really emotional when we made the

1232
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: first approach earlier that day to the two bowls. Then

1233
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I think when I came up

1234
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: to it, I was just like in awe, how huge

1235
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: this animal was and beautiful, you know, yeah, absolutely beautiful. Um.

1236
01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: I want to make this quick, so you guys had

1237
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: no fourth hunt day. You got the butcher and hang out, socialize,

1238
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: be warm. That's not true. And me and Brittany were

1239
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: out pounding the mountain and right off the bat we

1240
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: got we go up basically to where Helen tagged out

1241
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: and got onto the herd and tried to catch him

1242
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: before they got in the timber. But they're already in

1243
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: the timber. And we picked up the trail which you

1244
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: can't miss anybody be able to track him. It's like

1245
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: it looks like a roto tiller. I went through the

1246
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: snow ye and you can smell them to smell him

1247
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: loud and clear, never you like, can you smell them?

1248
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: And I was like and then all of a sudden,

1249
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,799
Speaker 1: I was just like wow, yeah, absolutely, And we got

1250
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: just minutes into the timber, hundred fift yards in the timber,

1251
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: and it was just elk from what I mean, just everywhere.

1252
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: And it's a thick packer pole, lodge pole, dog hair,

1253
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: lodge pole, however you want to put it. And um,

1254
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: it's just all these gaps and every gap is filled

1255
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: with some amount of elk or parts of elk or

1256
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: tons of elk. And we crab, we crab walked and

1257
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: what happened? Have no idea? Tell about that chase, and

1258
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap it up like just from your perspective, okay, yeah,

1259
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 1: So I mean you pointed them out and I finally

1260
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: I saw them through the trees. Um we went after.

1261
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're like just like one camera guy.

1262
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Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh, this is kind of

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01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: hell is how it works, like you know, like the

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01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,759
Speaker 1: boss on the scenes, and we get we we find

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: like a tree or something, and you kind of you're like, okay,

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: rest the rifle against this tree and chamber around and

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01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: like chambered around, and I'm like looking through the scope

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01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I mean, I can't tell what's what.

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01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: I just see bodies, I see heads, I see, butts

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: I see, but I don't see, like, you know, a

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: whole elk and I don't know what's behind it. And

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: there are so many trees that I just don't don't

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01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. And the herb starts sidehilling and we're just

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: ghosts in it above probably eight yards away, but the

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: timber is so thick. I can see glimpses. They can't

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01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: see us, and we're moving along. I'm like, there has

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 1: to be a gap in the timber or screen slide

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: or that's all we've been seeing. Something like we're gonna

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: hit if we keep going, they're gonna have to cross

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01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: an opening. We're gonna lay out and they turn. We

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01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: do the same thing all over again, and it doesn't work,

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: and so we eventually, I mean they we eventually lose them, right,

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01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: and so we're kind of tracking them. We find like

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01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: this big you know a lot of tracks basically go

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: down like this crazy steep hill. I'm like, at some point,

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01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm not even trying to like walk

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01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: with my feet. I'm just like sliding down on my

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01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: butt basically, and we go down, um and see we

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: hit the bottom. We hit the bottom, well, we see.

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01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: But before we hit the bottom, this was my last

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01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: chance as we see those elk, like I don't know,

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: four or five cows like right across with this like

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01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: little valley or whatever you can call it, um, like

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 1: a cross canyon shot. Yeah. And you set me up

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01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: on your pack and I'm looking through it and you

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01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: um use your range finder and it's like what three

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01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: and seventy yards or something like that, and You're like,

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01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is this farther than we

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: agreed on and it's super windy, it's you know yeah, um,

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01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: and I have like some branches in the scope, like

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01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: I have the elk in my scope, but then there

1302
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: are branches, and I just didn't feel comfortable at all,

1303
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: like it was too far. And meanwhile I was spike

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01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: about six yards away, like what's just hanging around here

1305
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: in range? Um? Yeah, And then they they left, they

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01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: went into the next patch of timber, and then you know,

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: but we we tried to chase after him a little bit.

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: We followed the trail and lost the trail and that

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01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: was it. Many bummer for sure, But I already emailed

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01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: already well a text message Doug. When we got all done,

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 1: Brittany said, I wanna go, uh do the thing that

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01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: I had originally suggested. We're gonna go. But I respected

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: you like I respected your work ethic and I respected

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01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: you professionally, and now I respect you in the way

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01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: that only comes from trudging through the mountains of someone.

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01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: And what's cool about you is I don't know if

1317
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: I was telling you this or someone else's. Most people

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01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: I think they're more they're they're capable of more than

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01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: they actually are. Right, You're like, oh, yeah, I'll go

1320
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: up that mountain, no problem. But he can't. You're capable

1321
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 1: of more than you think you are, or more than

1322
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: you let on, so you'll be like, I don't want

1323
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: to go to that mountain. You just go up the mountain.

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: Most people are like, oh, yeah, let's go. And they

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: get halfway and they're like, oh, I got a problem

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01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: with my A C L or like you know what

1327
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they come up with something that's wrong. Yeah,

1328
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: they come up with something like oh you know this

1329
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: boot like, uh, you know, I put these new uh,

1330
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, insuls and you know, and it's like he

1331
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, it's not gonna happen, Like you told

1332
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: me it was gonna happen, and now it's not. I mean,

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't without my chair of a complaint

1334
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 1: went up. It was funny because at the end of it,

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01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: I was exhausted and I realized you went the same

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01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: distance I went, and it was I'm glad it without

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01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: nearly the experienced training preparation that you have. I'm glad

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01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: and I'm glad to have a couple of days off now.

1339
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna throw it because I was. I

1340
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: was there for a lot of this hiking. I just trudging, humping,

1341
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. We climbed big mountains, steep mountains,

1342
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: lots of elevation, and today we went on a little

1343
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: bonus hunt. Hunt was all We're done filming. We just

1344
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: had to go on another hunt. Me and Yanni and

1345
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 1: Kal Yeah, trying to get more trying to get more

1346
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: more meat, and everyone's I was thinking. I was like, well,

1347
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll just wake Brittany up and see Joanska. And I

1348
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: was informed that I would get punched in the mustache

1349
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: and the mustache. We'll save what happened on our hunt

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01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: for another podcast because we're out of time, but I

1351
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: will mention that all of us, Steve included, we're saying

1352
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: how we'll be glad to get a couple of days

1353
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: off of humping the hills and not do it again

1354
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: like tonight. We'd ratter just sit in a hotel room

1355
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: and got some dinner and get some rest. Unbelievable job

1356
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: though about what happened this morning, But I'm not going

1357
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: to give a teaser about I think we should just

1358
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,720
Speaker 1: already have their own little private screw up. Oh absolutely,

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: I think we should give some accolades to our first

1360
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: time hunters. Now, I guess the time. There you go.

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: That's the attitude it was. It was a great it

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01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: was a great ny. It was a great year long

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01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: journey from my perspective. And you guys did like a

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01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of like education, training, taking the responsibility of shooting.

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01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: Um you had. I never I never heard of with

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01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: Helen or seen with you any desire to take shots

1367
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:44,440
Speaker 1: that rod of your league. A lot of restraint, um

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01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: you had, like you went into it knowing what you

1369
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: wanted and how you're gonna do it, and you didn't

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01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: alter that in the moment in order to get one,

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01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: and like, let me try to hit it that kind

1372
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: of bullshit. You guys are fantastic job. Oh the again,

1373
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna be go on Dug's farm right at home,

1374
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: you guys know, Ynnie, I can't tell you the story joke, no,

1375
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: unreal man. I was incredibly impressed, incredibly impressed. So, uh yeah,

1376
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: hats hats off both of you. Good job, keep well.

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01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I don't know, I don't. I

1378
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: think we're just like incredibly fortunate that we could hunt

1379
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: with pretty much two of the best hunters that are

1380
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: out there, and like nobody, not very many people get

1381
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: that opportunity. So absolutely very thankful for you. Yes, know one.

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01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: That means a lot coming from you guys. It was fun.

1383
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: Let's do it again, so dogdurn if you're listening, you'll

1384
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: have to put up a couple of extra blinds. On

1385
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: flat countries, they need to be the same elevation as

1386
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: the farm much and we would like mid fifty daytime

1387
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: high maybe lows around forty um son would be nice,

1388
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: and uh and some bucks rolling in. We don't wanna

1389
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: be there too long before they show up, maybe like

1390
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: cocktails at the end of the day, maybe around seven

1391
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: thirty AM, some bucks will show up. Um and cocktails

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01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 1: are five all right? From Bows in Montana, Helen Choe,

1393
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Britney Brothers, Ryan Callahan, you're honestly tell us and me.

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01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: Steve Ronella signing off me Eater podcast. Take Care