1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Here we go our number two here on the Herd. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: Gorgeous Wednesday, tons of news, college football, NFL obviously, a 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: little NBA action. It's me Jason McIntyre in for and 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: under the weather Cowherd. He did text me within the 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 3: last hour, so there is proof of life that he's alive. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: He said. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: He's expected that Maniana, it's not you know, I'm just 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: have to carry the show with the help of the 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: great Rachel Nichols. And it's official. Rachel and I will 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: be at the Lakers game together, not together tonight, We'll 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: be there. Rachel obviously has better connections than I do. 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Maybe other seats. 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna live. You better see you were at the 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: paper Clips against Shake Gildos, Alexander and okay see last 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: night doubt and that was that. 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: Man the Oklahoma City Thunder have not missed a step 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: despite the fact they are missing their second best player. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 4: They're undefeated and they don't even have Jada right now, 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 4: so it looks like, you know, a lot of people 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: after it took seven games to win the finals were like, 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's right open again next year. I 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 4: don't know, man, They're young players, they have experienced now 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: and they Shay said at the beginning of season, we're 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 4: only going to be better at this season, and he's right. 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: So I was the free throw merchant. What did you 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: do last night? I'm just kidding, o Casef answer man, 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: they don't love me, but yes, you guys are dominant, undefeated. 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: I will apologize, you know when it's due time, all right, 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: coming up in five minutes. I guess Joe claud will 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: be here. Very excited. Fun fact, I've never sat and 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: just had a one on one with Klatt for a 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: while because you know, it's what coward does. And I'm 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: very excited to talk to a lot of tough, hard 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: hitting questions about my Jets. But real quick, briefly, I 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: want to talk about what did not happen at the 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: trade deadline yesterday, and I think Colin might have started 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: this like, I don't know, six weeks ago, should the 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: Eagles trade aj Brown? And I was here snickering, like, bro, 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And then things were kind 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: of wobbly and I started to think, well, maybe there's 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: a world where they trade Hi. Anyways, the Eagles do 49 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: not trade him, which was smart. Obviously, he's a stud. 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 3: He's a top ten receiver in the league. You need 51 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: him to beat man coverage. We know Jalen Hurts has 52 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: kind of struggled against the zone with only one option. 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: I thought it was a good move. But if you 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 3: look around the league, interestingly, the best teams nothing. You guys, 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: see what the Buffalo Bills did yesterday. Nothing. They didn't 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: listen to the outside noise, unlike Jerry Jones, who basically 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: is listening to TikTok. I mean, like the elected officials 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: in this country, what's going on online. I've got to 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: react to it, like that's what Jerry Jones are doing. 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: The smart people, Howie Roseman, Buffalo Bills. By the way, 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: did the Lions do much yesterday? They're one of the favorites. 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: Did the Green Bay Packers after losing Chucker Crafter Chucker 63 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: Craft a tight end. How about the Kansas City Chiefs, 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: did they do anything? Nope. Listen closely to what Howie 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: Roseman said about the Eagles standing pat. 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 5: When you're trying to be a great team, it's hard 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 5: to trade great players. And Agent Brown's a great player. 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: He wears the CEA for a reason. He's an important 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: part of this team, of this organization. He cares about winning, 70 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 5: he cares about his teammates. And you know, I think 71 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 5: that when you're a team like ours that is looking 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 5: forward to an opportunity to compete for a championship, you. 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: Just don't get rid of the guys like that. 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: And so feel very lucky to have him on our 75 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: team and excited about the second half of the season with. 76 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: Him very well said, I love it, Howie Rosevean just 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: keeps winning. And I'll just wrap up with a fun 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: stat from the staff this morning. You know who's made 79 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: ten trades in the last eight and a half months. 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: The Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jets are making moves. Not a 81 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: great sign. So smart teams do nothing right, and the 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: bad desperate teams, the Colts, the Cowboys, they're reaching and 83 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: grasping at Straws. All right, let's bring on Joel Clat 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: the voice of college football, the former legendary quarterback at 85 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: Colorado Legendary. Wow, I want to go over here. 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 6: Oh man, they put a little tower up here. Vipao 87 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 6: is so low. 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 3: Hi, Rachel, you know some of. 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: Us are only five to three and. 90 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 6: You need a little That's exactly right. What's going on? 91 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: Man? Are you so good to have you here? Former 92 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: college baseball. 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 7: Star can we never played in college. You played minor league, 94 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 7: minor league after high school. Yeah, let me go that. 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: Well, well, hey, you know, it's it's tough out there. 96 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 6: It is. 97 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: It is. Joel's calling Indiana Penn State. I tried to 98 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: talk Chris Philka yeah, into maybe taking the points with 99 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: the Nitney Lyons, any chance of that. 100 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not going to get into the points 101 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 7: on the game that I'm calling. I will say like, 102 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 7: Indian is as good of a team as there is 103 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 7: in the country. 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 6: They're complete. 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 7: What I love is talking with opposing coaches and you 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 7: get an idea of the weaknesses for the other teams, 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 7: even more so than just watching the film yourself. And 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 7: what's fascinating to me over the last couple of years 109 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 7: is that when I talk with anybody that has either 110 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 7: played Indiana or is about to play Indiana, they all 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 7: say the same thing, which is, this is the best 112 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 7: coach team that we have played. And it's one of 113 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 7: the reasons why I think Indiana was so aggressive locking 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 7: up Kurt Signetti as the job opening started to fly 115 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 7: around the country. They are incredibly well coached. They've got 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 7: a Heisman caliber quarterback. They run the football as well 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 7: as anybody in the country. In fact, I think they're 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 7: second in the power for running the ball five times 119 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 7: they've run for over three hundred yards, and their defense 120 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 7: is top ten. So there's not a lot of holes 121 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 7: with this Indiana team. I'm excited to cover them again 122 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 7: as Penn State just tries to kind of keep themselves 123 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 7: afloat first game there since they fired James Franklin. 124 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 6: So that'll be a interesting environment. 125 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Should be half full stadium maybe on Let's hope is 126 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: a little bit. 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 6: More than that. Come on to stay faithful. 128 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: So I want to ask you, you know, I love 129 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: talking to the announcers here of Fox cause you guys 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: meet with the coaches and players. Yeah, and so you've 131 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: met with Mendoza. I assume multiple times. So as a 132 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 3: Jets fan, we now have a war chest of draft picks. 133 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: And I was like lukewarm on Mendoza and I'd read 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: this Wall Street Journal article about his LinkedIn page. He's 135 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: graduating from the HW School of Business at CAL. I mean, 136 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: this guy's had internships at yeah, big time, like real jobs. 137 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 3: He's is super intelligent. And I'm talking myself into Mendoza. 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: I wan't to know what's he like when you meet him. 139 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: We know what he's like on the field. 140 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 7: I mean this in the most positive sense. Okay, but 141 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 7: the first time I sat down with him, I was like, 142 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 7: is this like Kirk? Is this Kirk Cousins just coming back? 143 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 7: He is very similar to Kirk Cousins, very similar, and 144 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 7: the way they approach very smart. I will say, like 145 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 7: he can he can be a little robotic, and then 146 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 7: as the conversation went on, it got more fluid and 147 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 7: better and better. But he's process oriented. He is an 148 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 7: incredible player. He's very accurate with the football, he's smart, 149 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 7: and he's developed into what I think is going to 150 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 7: be easily a top ten pick. 151 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 6: It's to me it comes down to style. 152 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 7: So if you're an organization or a team in the 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 7: National Football League that wants to major in short passing 154 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 7: efficiency RPO style, run pass option style offense. And there 155 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 7: are those out there, think Mike McDaniel's and Mike McDaniels 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 7: at the Dolphins, there's others. You know, Mendoza is going 157 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 7: to be a great option for you, whereas like Ty 158 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 7: Simpson from Alabama is a little bit more pushed the 159 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 7: ball down the field, a little bit better in the 160 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 7: intermediate zones. Those two are going to be widely considered 161 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 7: maybe one and two. I think Lenora Sellers will get 162 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 7: some action as one of the better quarterbacks as well, 163 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 7: just because of skill set and traits. But to me, 164 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 7: if I was up there and selecting in the top five, 165 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 7: the question would be Ty Simpson or Fernando Mendoza. 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 6: I think that they're that good. 167 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: So let me ask you, as a former quarterback. Are 168 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: you of the belief that let's just use the jets. Hey, 169 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: we see what Mendoza does really well, we want to 170 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: draft him and then cater to his skill set. 171 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 7: One hundred percent? Okay, So I would agree with one 172 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 7: hundred percent. You've got to have the right fit or 173 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 7: else it doesn't work. 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lamar Jackson is obviously the great example. Hey, this 175 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: guy can run, he can't do much else. We're just 176 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: going to cater to his skills. And then he developed 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: the other ones, came a great passer. So when you 178 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: see Mendoza six or five, big strapping guy. But you 179 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: said the word process, I hear process. I think brock Perty. 180 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: Now Purty's obviously much smaller. 181 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 6: He would do really well in one of those offenses. 182 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: Oh, Kyle Shanahan offense. 183 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean everyone does well and Kyle Shanahan offenses. 184 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 7: But because because he's so smart and accurate with the 185 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 7: football and on time with the football, anybody like a 186 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 7: Sean Payton. He I mean, obviously Sewan's not drafting the quarterback, 187 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 7: but I'm just trying to give you an example of 188 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 7: these styles of offenses that he would flourish in. He 189 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 7: would do very well in those. When you watch him play, 190 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 7: one of the things that he does that's very subtle 191 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 7: is that he's what I would call like on platform, 192 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 7: very quickly, very quick. So when he gets that ball 193 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 7: and he takes out one punch step and then he's ready, 194 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 7: and then he's got a very quick release and he's 195 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 7: accurate with the ball and he knows what he's looking at. 196 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 7: So from my standpoint, that's what's going to pay dividends 197 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 7: for him in particular early in his career as an 198 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 7: NFL quarterback is the fact that he can be on 199 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 7: time and on target. It doesn't take him a long 200 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 7: time to throw, it doesn't take them a long time 201 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 7: to process information. 202 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 6: Everything happens fast. 203 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 7: And when you're moving from the college level to the 204 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 7: NFL level, that I mean, that's the single trait that 205 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 7: can help you succeed the earliest. 206 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: I did hear his brothers at Indiana? I don't know. 207 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. 208 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 7: Well year is he he's a younger guy, so he 209 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 7: gets in like Fernando goes out there, he starts blowing 210 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 7: people out, and then his brother gets in the ballgame 211 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 7: and then he's over running around on the sidelines. 212 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: As preat it's not a locked the windows that comes 213 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: out before we get to Simpson, Indiana, Penn State. What 214 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 3: are you hearing on the Penn State job? Because I'm 215 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: not hearing good things at this point. 216 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 7: Well, it's not that you're not hearing good things. It's 217 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 7: just that there it's a tough process right now, for everybody, 218 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 7: whether it's Florida or LSU. And the reason is is 219 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 7: because the candidates that you would like have either got 220 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 7: locked up already, like Kurt Signetti or Matt Rule at 221 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 7: Nebraska got an extension. Dan Lanning has come out and 222 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 7: said unequivocally I'm not leaving Oregon. Well, these are some 223 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: of the main targets. Maybe not Matt Rule, but at 224 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 7: least there was a tie to Penn State. So it 225 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 7: leaves the pool of candidates is starting to minimize even 226 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 7: before you get into a real full search towards the 227 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 7: end of the year. And yet the timing of the 228 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 7: calendar in college football is so broken that you've got 229 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 7: to be ready to go in December. You've got to 230 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 7: sign a high school class in the first week of 231 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 7: December and then be ready for the transfer portal, which 232 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 7: is now in the month of January. So if you're 233 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 7: not ready to go by then, you know, like what happens? 234 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 7: Where do you go? If you're hiring a coach. So, 235 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 7: for example, let's just say one of these jobs, whether 236 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 7: it's Penn State or LSU, and they decide, you know what, 237 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 7: Lane Kiffin is our guy. Lane has not gotten an 238 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 7: extension or at least hasn't signed when an Old Miss 239 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 7: yet he has not come out and said I'm not 240 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 7: leaving Old Miss. So now Florida is going to target him. 241 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 7: In fact, I know that they've already and given Florida 242 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 7: is talking about an offer if it hasn't already hit 243 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 7: his desk, It is to make him the second highest 244 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 7: paid coach in college football. That's going to be matched 245 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 7: by LSU. I'm almost certain about that. If Penn State 246 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 7: wanted to get in there, Well, here's the problem. If 247 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 7: Ole Miss goes to the playoff and they play in 248 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 7: the second in the third round, Lane's still coaching at 249 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 7: Ole Miss during the transfer portal window being open, so 250 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 7: he doesn't even have an ability to build a roster. 251 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 7: So that's what's broken about college football from a calendar perspective. 252 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: That's why I would look at guys like an Alex 253 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 7: Golish at South Florida who's done a heck of a 254 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 7: job at South Florida. That could be a name that's 255 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 7: popped up. I think Brian Hartline is a name the 256 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: assistant coach at Ohio State that's going to pop up. 257 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 7: These guys that could potentially move before the transfer portal 258 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 7: window and not be tied to a team that could 259 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 7: be still playing in the middle of January. 260 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: And anything on James Franklin before we get to the 261 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: college football rankings. 262 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 7: I've heard that he's pretty close to Virginia Tech. He 263 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 7: will definitely coach again, and he will have success. The 264 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 7: guy was not a bad football coach. I mean, he 265 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 7: came up short in the most difficult games out there, 266 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 7: you know, namely like Michigan when they're in the top 267 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 7: five or Ohio State when they're in the top five. 268 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 7: So he's going to go someplace and he's going to 269 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 7: make them a better program. James is a heck of 270 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 7: a football coach, and I hope he gets back in 271 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 7: and I know that he will. 272 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: I spent two years of Virginia Tech. Did Jim Druckenmiller error, 273 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I had a couple classes 274 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: with those guys, I think Franklin. 275 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 7: I can just see j Max just jumping up and 276 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 7: down to Inner Sandman at at Lane Stadium, some. 277 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: Goofa football players in the back of the class, and 278 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: I would kind of matriculate toward them because I was 279 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: at the school paper. Nobody cares about that. Anyway, Let's 280 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: get to the college football playoff rankings. Joe, I didn't 281 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: see anything to get, you know, very upset about it. Yeah. 282 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 7: No, I thought it was a pretty good ranking, to 283 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 7: be honest with you, as solid of a first committee 284 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 7: ranking as I've seen in the playoff era, going back 285 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 7: to the four team playoff. Here's one of the things 286 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 7: that I think helps the committee out is the expanded 287 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 7: twelve team playoff, because we have an understanding now just 288 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 7: intuitively that okay, this is to play out BYU and 289 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 7: Texas Tech are going to play this weekend. Iowa and 290 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 7: Oregon are going to play this weekend. You know, A 291 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 7: and M has to travel and they're going to be 292 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 7: on the road at Missouri. A couple of things that 293 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 7: stood out to me though, just takeaways major takeaways from 294 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 7: the top twenty five. Number one is that this committee 295 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 7: values the big ten much more so than the AP does. Like, 296 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 7: for instance, the team with the biggest discrepancy between the 297 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 7: two polls is actually Iowa. Iowa is ranked, if you will, 298 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 7: just outside of the top twenty five by the AP 299 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 7: at twenty six. Well, there are plus six at twenty 300 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 7: for the Committee, and I think rightly. So the AP 301 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 7: has devalued the middle of the Big Ten all year long. 302 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 7: I'm not sure why, but you've also had Michigan sitting there, 303 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 7: USC sitting there, Washington sitting there. So now there's a 304 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 7: path for a Big Ten team to be the fourth team. Like, 305 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 7: let's just say one of those teams can win out 306 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 7: and be ten and two, then there's definitely a path. 307 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 7: Another thing that stood out to me is Texas at eleven. 308 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 7: I thought that the committee was telling us, if Texas 309 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 7: goes nine to three, we're probably going to put them in. 310 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 7: They're sitting on two losses now, but think about it. Now, 311 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 7: think about it. They already have them above OU. Obviously 312 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 7: they beat Ou. They have them above Utah. Utah has 313 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 7: nothing on their schedule that would that would propel them 314 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 7: above Texas. And there is no way the ACC is 315 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 7: going to get valued over Texas because we already see that. 316 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 7: You know, the highest ACC team is ranked fourteen with Virginia. 317 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 7: So here's Texas and down the stretch they've got to 318 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 7: travel to Athens and play Georgia and then they're going 319 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 7: to host Texas A and m the number three team 320 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 7: in the country and the number five team in the country. Well, 321 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 7: if you value wins, one of those wins is going 322 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 7: to keep them or even elevate them all the way 323 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 7: inside of the top ten, which means I think that 324 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 7: they could lose one of those games and still be 325 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 7: included in the losing both No. 326 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 6: No. 327 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 7: Eight and four, they're out because oh you could win out, 328 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 7: then you could have one of those ten and two 329 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 7: big ten teams. 330 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 6: There's there's a host of the things. 331 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: They're not winning at Georgia. 332 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 7: Come on, they might Georgia is do you remember Rick Riley, 333 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 7: even though I'm not a huge fan of Rick, which 334 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 7: is fine, I can't believe I just said that. Yeah, 335 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 7: he wrote an article way back in the day about 336 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson. Now, like Tiger was just 337 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 7: you know, watching him play golf was just like rigid 338 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 7: and focused, and then watching Phil Mickelson play golf was 339 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 7: like watching a drunk chase of balloon next to next 340 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 7: to a cliff. 341 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 6: He had this line. 342 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 7: I don't know why it's always stuck with It's just 343 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 7: like that was his line, his line, and and you know, 344 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 7: like for Georgia, it kind of reminds me of that 345 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 7: because it's like Why are you behind in all of 346 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 7: these games? You know, every SEC game, it's like they're 347 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 7: they're down. They they have to create some great play. 348 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 7: They're at the whim of a review, like they were 349 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 7: on that third down catch no catch against Florida. You know, 350 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 7: like Florida's sitting there. If they get the fourth and one, 351 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 7: you know, they could sult the game away. And and 352 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 7: so I don't think that it's just a sure fire. 353 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, George is going to beat that Texas team 354 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 7: because Texas is actually playing their. 355 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 6: Best football right now. Well, it's interesting they were handling 356 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 6: Vanderbilt handling and then. 357 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Nearly choked it away. You're right, they were spotty early 358 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: during the season. So let me pivot to ask about Arch. 359 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he was pretty rotten early in Dreadful. Okay, dreadful, 360 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: I like your word better than mine. 361 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 7: We tiptoe around because of his last name, but even 362 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 7: even those guys would probably appreciate honesty. Arch was dreadful 363 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 7: early in the year, and he's gotten better in the last. 364 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: Couple of weeks. 365 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: He was good, But can he go to Georgia and 366 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: perform like he did against Vandy and then that A 367 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: and M game that's not a layup, even though they're 368 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: at home. Where are you on Arch? 369 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 6: Have you seen a arch? Arch is. 370 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 7: A decent to average college football quarterback early in his career, 371 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 7: and he's going to need at least twenty more starts 372 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 7: to be even remotely ready for the national. 373 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: Football guy three, we can still say it's early in 374 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: his career. 375 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 7: Well as far as number of starts, he's early in 376 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 7: his career. You know, again, this position, the position of quarterback, 377 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 7: there is no way you can replicate it. So I 378 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 7: don't care if it's your third year in college or 379 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 7: if it's your first year in college. The only thing 380 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 7: that matters is number of games started. Okay, Now, can 381 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 7: you be a little more comfortable? Sure, I guess, but 382 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 7: you can't replicate the position anywhere other than on the. 383 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 6: Field live in games. 384 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 7: And so as he's starting to develop, as he's starting 385 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 7: to start more games, you're starting to see him get 386 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 7: a little bit better. Now, we all thought he was 387 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 7: going to come out and be gangbusters and be Trevor 388 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 7: Lawrence right away or Bear Bachmeyer. The quarterback at BYU 389 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 7: is eight to er right now as a true freshman, 390 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 7: and it didn't happen. It didn't happen. But here's what 391 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 7: this position is all about is repsent experience. If you 392 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 7: take a look at since the turn of the century, 393 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 7: the quarterbacks that have actually won Super Bowls. So you 394 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 7: take a look at the list of guys that have 395 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 7: actually won Super Bowls. And I think we've talked this 396 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 7: on the show, and I'm sure you've you've been riveted over, 397 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 7: you know, in the corner as I'm saying this to. 398 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 6: Colin, But. 399 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 7: The average college career of all the guys that have 400 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 7: won super Bowls is around thirty to thirty four starts. 401 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 7: In college football, you have to have a deep level 402 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 7: of experience before you get to the NFL. So here's 403 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 7: my everyone fans out there, just let Arch play a 404 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 7: couple of years. Ok Again, he is twenty starts away 405 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 7: from being remotely close to an NFL level. 406 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Okay, So to that point, a quick aside to my 407 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: guy Ty Simpson at Alabama, I love what I've seen 408 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: from them. You just said him and Mendoza top ten picks. 409 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: He's got like eight start nights. 410 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 7: I would choose Mendoza because of that very specific thing. 411 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure that that's now. 412 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 7: He's likely going to come out. He's going to be 413 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 7: rated up there. But again, the experience factor would tend 414 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 7: to if you're just looking at history, favor a guy 415 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 7: like Mendoza because as he started more games since. 416 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: And sat behind a bunch of guys who were like anyways, 417 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: Cowhard's now texting me. He wants a question about USCTRC. 418 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 7: Does I was going to say, we were about to 419 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 7: get through one of these without us. 420 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: Well, your guy Lincoln Riley after the win over Nebraska 421 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: was complaining, Hey, we ended our game after midnight. We 422 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: have to fly back in the middle of the night. 423 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 7: I can't stand when coaches would complain about the schedule. Listen, listen, listen. Coaches, 424 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 7: all of you and all of you that do this, 425 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 7: do you like the money or. 426 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 6: Not, because that's what it is. 427 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 7: You know, you all complain about not having enough money 428 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 7: to pay your players now and the revenue share and 429 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 7: all that, Like we're paying one hundred and sixty seven 430 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 7: million dollars and buy out money in college football. That 431 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 7: revenue needs to come somewhere. Guess where it comes from television, 432 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 7: you know, like, deal with it. I don't know what 433 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 7: to tell you, Like I I really I I'm sure 434 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 7: that he was. And Lincoln, generally, I would say, is 435 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 7: better about that than others. So if he was joking, 436 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 7: you know, that's good. He finished after midnight plenty of 437 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 7: times in the PAC twelve when they were in PAC. 438 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: Twelve after dark. 439 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, is travel and game and game kick times 440 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 7: more difficult in college than it is in the NFL? Yeah, 441 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 7: you know, but we also don't split games up, so 442 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 7: you're not on regional television in college football. You're on 443 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 7: national television in college football. 444 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: I thought that that. 445 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 7: Win for USC was really important for them, winning on 446 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 7: the road. There's this old adage I've always thought, you 447 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 7: you lose big before you lose small, you lose small 448 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 7: before you win small, and you win small before you 449 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 7: win big. 450 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 6: And they're they're. 451 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 7: Turning that corner from losing small those one possession games 452 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 7: a year ago to now winning some of those games, 453 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 7: and the way that they did it, leaning into their 454 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 7: run game, not having a great performance from their quarterback 455 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 7: Jane Mayava. That's important for them. 456 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: You know. 457 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 7: If they just go out there Maava throws for four 458 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 7: hundred and they win by a score, it's like, Okay, 459 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 7: did we really learn anything or grow as us. No, 460 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 7: but if you go out there and you win with 461 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 7: defense after the injury obviously to Dylan Royolo, which is 462 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 7: which is a bummer for Nebraska, but they leaned into 463 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 7: the run game they got it. Mayava was not good 464 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 7: in that game and they still win. Now they're set 465 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 7: up as a one lost Big Ten team in conference, 466 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 7: obviously after losing to Notre Dame and Illinois, but one 467 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 7: loss in conference and. 468 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 6: They've got a chance to be ten and two. 469 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: That's my next question. So I'm looking at the schedule 470 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: Northwestern and that's a win this week versus Iowa. That'll 471 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: be tough, but I think they very tough. And then 472 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: the Oregon game is the Oregon game, essentially the season 473 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: for Lincoln. Ryley will go to the playoffs. 474 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 7: I mean yes, the way that the schedule lines up, 475 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 7: but they still have to handle their business and a 476 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 7: team like Iowa is still their kryptonite that Iowa does 477 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 7: not care at all. They will run it fifty two times, 478 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 7: they can't throw the football, and they're going to play 479 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 7: great defense. So Mayava likely struggles again against Iowa, even 480 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 7: if that game is at home, and they're going to 481 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 7: have to win in a gritty, low scoring fashion. So 482 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 7: of all the games, I think Oregon is the biggest 483 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 7: threat because it's Oregon, it's on the road. But the 484 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 7: sneaky game, the sneaky, tough one for us, is going 485 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 7: to be that Iowa again. 486 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember the Illinois game was kind of fluky at 487 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 3: the end. They could have won that easily. And then 488 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: Notre Dame. I believe it was a one score game 489 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: with like seven minutes left. 490 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 7: They definitely had their chances. They blew it on special teams, 491 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 7: they failed in short yardage, didn't lean into the run game, 492 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 7: and they couldn't stop the run. And Iowa again will 493 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 7: run it fifty two times. They will not care, and 494 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 7: they will shrink the game down. My album might only 495 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 7: get the ball seven times. 496 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 2: In that game. 497 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, not ideal. I know the buyouts are everywhere. Is 498 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley safe? 499 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: Ya? 500 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's safe. 501 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that's nice, He's safe. 502 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 7: I do think that this team, I think I think 503 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 7: they finish at least nine to three. That not only 504 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 7: retains Riley obviously, but it also retains their class. This 505 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 7: is the number one recruiting class in all of college football. 506 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 7: The trajectory for USC is actually very positive. Everyone gets 507 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 7: so upset at Colin and I because they are with 508 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 7: USC and I get it because Colin always always brings 509 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 7: it up. But that program is on the correct trajectory 510 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 7: and like I said, go through that process, lose big, loose, small, 511 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 7: win small, win big, and they're on that trend. 512 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Last one, Uh, we got to talk about Lane Kiffen. 513 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, are you close to him because he 514 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: loves to talk to the media. He's getting combative. I 515 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: know you said earlier, hasn't ruled out anything. He's not 516 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 3: going to the NFL, right, this is Miami Dolphins nonsense. 517 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: I know. 518 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 7: No, I see Lane at LSU, Really I do. 519 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: That's a top three job in the sport. 520 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. The last time you said that here, I was 521 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: biting my tongue, like why it's just not anymore historically, yes, 522 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: and I know in the past everybody's won, But don't 523 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: you feel the playing field is leveled to the point 524 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: that LSU is not that much better of a job 525 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: than what miss I mean, mis Lane Kiffin is calling 526 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: the shots right now for late hold On. 527 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: Is a better job than. 528 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: For so the money is not that different Joel. Okay, 529 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: he runs the show he's got total he could say 530 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 3: whatever he wants at LSU. Who's calling the shots there 531 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: by the way him, No, I haven't looked at my phone. 532 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: He's dealing with the Board of Governors. Yeah, Colin and 533 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: I disagree greatly on this. I just think the landscape 534 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: has changed with NIL collectives. 535 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 7: I know that I thought this was going to be 536 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 7: just a really good experience and then you and then 537 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 7: you hit me with that right at the end. 538 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: So just to be clear, it's for Lane Kiffin, not 539 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: anyone else. Like Lane Kiffin is running things. He doesn't 540 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: answer to nobody at all. 541 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 6: This I disagree. 542 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so you know, Lane Kiff, it's as Joel, why 543 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: do you I want to take the LSU job? Sell 544 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: me on it. If confirm, I. 545 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 6: Don't have to say you on it. 546 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: One. 547 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 7: You can open up the back door and you can 548 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 7: get a top four recruiting class, just just regionally. They 549 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 7: have more resources than anyone, maybe other than Oregon. It's 550 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 7: just quieter than Oregon's. They've got they've got oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh. 551 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 6: Yea yeah, multiple multiple billions. 552 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: Sure hasn't shown up in those playoff trips. 553 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 7: They were able to build a roster that was pretty substantial. 554 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 7: And granted I don't think Brian Kell he was a 555 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 7: good fit there. Lane would probably be a great fit 556 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 7: at LSU. 557 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 3: And you want to wait him out? Huh oh yeah? 558 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: January second, Lane, you're in the semi final. 559 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 6: We'll see that worth it. 560 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 7: We'll see Lane's going to be the top three two 561 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 7: paid coach in college football. 562 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: Do we do a friendly wager that doesn't have to 563 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: be monetary? I believe he stays at All Miss. 564 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 7: Well, what are your options? You tell me who's the 565 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 7: better option. You don't think Lane Kiffin is a great fit, 566 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 7: So who's a good fit? 567 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 6: No? 568 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: No, I think for Lane Kiffin staying at Old Miss 569 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: makes sense. 570 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 6: Okay, So who does LSU hire? 571 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: I honestly, I don't know that it's that attractive. Let 572 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: me use that word attractive of a job now, given 573 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: all the upheaval with the AD, the border governors, all 574 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: this nonsense that's going on there. I mean, Joe, you're 575 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: walking dough into a hornet's nest. Two or false. 576 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 6: False take the Crans away? What are we doing? 577 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 5: All right? 578 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Guy? 579 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: Here we go? Colin has checked in what about Lane? 580 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: In the NFL New York Giants, Jackson dart Reun. 581 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 582 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: No, no, shot no. 583 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 7: And I said this, I said this to Colin last week. 584 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 7: I still think that as big of issues structurally that 585 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 7: college football has, it's still more appealing to guys that 586 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 7: have a heart for college football because of the influence 587 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 7: and immortality that is offered in college football that is 588 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 7: not offered in the NFL. Find go, go work in 589 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 7: the NFL, and you can win a Super Bowl, you 590 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 7: can win multiple Super Bowls, and all anyone is going 591 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 7: to care about is who is your quarterback? But in 592 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 7: college football, like you, you're the king. You know, you 593 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 7: win a couple of national championships and they build a 594 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 7: statue of you out in front, and that program is 595 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 7: always yours. You are the quarterback of that program. Plus 596 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: you still have the ability to influence eighteen to twenty 597 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 7: two year olds, grow them, develop them, you know, from 598 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 7: young men into men. And that's I think that's still 599 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: something that is appealing and attractive to a lot of 600 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 7: guys that stay in the college level and is not 601 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 7: offered at the NFL level. 602 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Joel Klatt, I'm sorry to derail things with 603 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: LSU's for right. We'll talk off Jell me. It's fine, 604 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: it's such a good job, of course, just not right now, 605 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next, we got some news here. 606 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: Two NFL teams would not talk to each other at 607 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 3: the deadline. Rachel's got the info for us. 608 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: Next one more heard. 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Check us out 620 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 9: on YouTube and subscribe. 621 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: Fun stuff with Joel Klatt. He almost fell off the 622 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: stage one I said for Lane Kiffin ole miss makes 623 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: more sense than LSU. I'm sure everybody will be reasonable 624 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: online about that. Obviously. Let's go to Rachelikles with the news. 625 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 3: Turn on the news. 626 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: This is the Herd Line news. 627 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: We all almost fell off our seats. But you know, Jason, 628 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 4: the Seahawks who active at the trade deadline. They acquired 629 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 4: former Saints wide receiver Rashid Shahed. Remember, Shahid played for 630 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: the Seattle offensive coordinator Kubiak last year in New Orleans, 631 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: so he knows what he's got now. She'd is twenty 632 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: seven years old. He has forty four receptions for four 633 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety nine yards, two tds and nine games 634 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: this season. He will be a free agent at the 635 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: end of this year, but Seattle definitely needed some reinforcements 636 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: outside of JSN. So do you like it, Jason, what 637 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: do you think? 638 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: You like it a lot? Yeah, it's weird. I feel 639 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: like Seattle's more of a contender in the NFC than 640 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: like Indian Pergar in the AFC because they got to 641 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: play really, really strong teams. Yeah, I think there's a 642 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: good move. They got weapons on the outside. Donald is 643 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: playing great, the defense is pretty formidable. Seattle is a 644 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: dangerous team right now, assuming Donald could keep it up. 645 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: We saw what happened at the end of last season 646 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: with Minnesota. Well tough, but yeah, I would have Seattle, 647 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: you know, not much behind the Packers and Eagles in 648 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: the NFC. 649 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: I just like that she's such a deep threat. Yeah, 650 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 4: because they already have some moved the chains, but he 651 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: really provides. I think in the last three years he's 652 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: only behind Jamar Chase and Tyreek Hill and catches over 653 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: forty yards. 654 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: Oh wow. So that's a good company to be in. 655 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: That's a good, good, good acquisition there, all right. The Broncos, 656 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: on the other hand, sat out at the trade deadline. 657 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: They did not try to muscle up for a possible 658 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: Super Bowl run, and maybe they don't need to. They 659 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: are sitting at seven and two, first place in the 660 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: AFC West, tied for best overall in the NFL. Quarterback 661 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: bo Nicks was asked about his team staying quiet, and 662 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: he said, there's a reason Denver didn't make a move. 663 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: Take a listen. 664 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 8: Obviously, if there's a need, you want to get it. 665 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 8: But we feel like we're we got all the pieces, 666 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 8: and so sometimes when something like that happens, it shakes 667 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 8: things up, and you know, we got some good going 668 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 8: and we just want to keep riding this wave and 669 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 8: find ways to win. 670 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: Now, j Mac. 671 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 4: The Broncos did reportedly reach out to the Dolphins about 672 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: wide receiver Jayalen Waddell, but the price was a first 673 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 4: round pick. They just decided too much. Do you agree 674 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: with Bonnicks? You think they're good the way they are. 675 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: I was just going through their roster and I'm like, 676 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 3: they're kind of stacked. I mean, Shirtan's on the ir 677 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: that obviously hurts. I can't find a discernible weakness other 678 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: than bow knicks, really, and you're not replacing him or 679 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: find a quarterback. So if he can get it together, 680 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: just tighten it up. He struggled on the deep ball 681 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: this year, struggled on really everything. I think they're in 682 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: good shape. Now, this is interesting, this Raiders game. This 683 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: was the first bet I made this week, and I 684 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: you know, start looking into the game and I'm like, oh, 685 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: the Broncos have the Chiefs. After that, Chiefs are off 686 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: a buy? Does Denver let one slip here against the Raiders? 687 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: If they should lose, then they're playing the Chiefs and 688 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: next thing you know, they're out of first place. Right, So, 689 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean, bon Nix has to be great. I think 690 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 3: this is a pretty dangerous Denver team. But I don't know, 691 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: you've been doing this long enough like I have, Like 692 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: I got to see it in the postseason from bon Nicks. 693 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: I've seen it from Lamar, from Josh, from Mahomes, like, 694 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: I need to see it in the playoffs, like cheez, 695 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: look at those stats. They were a dominant fourth quarter team. Yeah, 696 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: I think the Broncos made a good move not making me. 697 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean, you can't see it until the playoffs. 698 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 4: Until the playoffs come, right, So the best they could 699 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: do is where they are now. I like that they 700 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: didn't add a receiver. I think bon Nicks improvises a lot, 701 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 4: and that requires a lot of sort of rhythm and 702 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: knowledge and knowing where your receivers are going to be 703 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 4: and them knowing where you're gonna do. And you throw 704 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: someone new in that mix halfway through the season, I 705 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure that that would have 706 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: been a good bet. 707 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: Well, I also like your point about you got they 708 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: got to have a chance to do it in the playoffs. Like, Okay, see, 709 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: I doubted them. I need to see it in the playoffs. 710 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: That's gay. Well we saw it. 711 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: You're still doubting them, yes, little bit, love bit, little bit. 712 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 4: Yesterday we saw six traits, mate, Jason. That is the 713 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 4: third busiest deadline day in the last thirty five years. 714 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: But here's the juiciest. 715 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 6: Story for me. 716 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: I love this one. Reportedly, the Titans, who are in 717 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 4: cell mode, weren't willing to do business with the Patriots. 718 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 4: According to one report, Titans owner Amy Adams strunk she 719 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: did not want to make deals with Mike Frabel because 720 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: of how Rabel's tenure ended in Tennessee. 721 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 3: J Mack. 722 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: You know, I like to say, there's no petty like 723 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: NBA petty, but this is close. 724 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: Well, this is this reminds me that Belichick story from 725 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: a few weeks ago that he wouldn't let Patriots scouts 726 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: come to practice or whatever. So I got to ask you, Rachel, 727 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: like I get petty. We all hold grudges. It's kind 728 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: of human nature. But at the end of the day, like, 729 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: are you doing a disservice to your team? 730 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: I mean, look, the Titans are one and eight some 731 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: salary relief, so I would say, trade whoever you can 732 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 4: with whoever you can. But look, Rabels, we all know. 733 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: Look he took a bunch of assistance with him. There 734 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 4: was definitely some bad blood at the end of his 735 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: last season there. She thought that he had too much 736 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: control over the roster. She put in a GM to 737 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: sort of balance that back out. He didn't like it. Yeah, 738 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: so I mean you know that there's stuff. 739 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, is that GM that she put in the one 740 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: that traded A J. Brown? I don't think so. Well. 741 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: I mean, like again, Rabel's a really good coach with 742 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: what he's done. In one year, he had the Titans 743 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: the number one seed with Ryan Tannhill as quarterback. I mean, 744 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: I know they had Dereck Henry, but I don't know. 745 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: It's just listen, if you bashed Belichick for what he 746 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: was doing to the Patriots, right, I think you kind 747 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: of got to say I got to bash the Titans 748 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: for doing this and not Yeah, I mean you got 749 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: to make your team better. I think you got to 750 00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: do it, right. 751 00:33:59,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 752 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: I mean, look, Rabel was great for them, right, three 753 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: times in five seasons, made the playoffs, first championship game 754 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: in seventeen years, sorry fifteen years for that franchise, and 755 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 4: the end. Don't you have to feel better about his 756 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 4: tenure than how it ended? 757 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, total agreement Rachel with the news. 758 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 759 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: herd line. All right. 760 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: So yesterday we had midterms around the country. I was 761 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 3: playing in a mensley game and prepping for the show. 762 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: I have no idea what happened. I do anyway, So 763 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 3: today we're doing NFL Midterms Rachel and I. It's going 764 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: to be fun. That's back after this. 765 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 766 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: in noon Eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 767 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 768 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: Back here on The Herd wrapping up the second hour, 769 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: and Rachel had some good little tell well piece of 770 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: information you want to reveal it. I don't know that 771 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: this is public info yet. 772 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: It's mainly for you because you're coming to the Lakers 773 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: game tonight. Mookie Bets, Will Smith, Tyler Glassnow Lake Snell, 774 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 4: Evan Phillips, They're all coming to Laker Spurs. The Dodgers 775 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 4: continuing to celebrate. Yeah, you know, as if Freddy Freeman 776 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: doing the worm wasn't enough. 777 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: So they'll be celebrating at Webbin Yama Lakers tonight. Good, 778 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: good one, All right, Rachel. Midterms happened last night around 779 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: the country. Midterm elections, very exciting stuff. We decided we 780 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: do an NFL version of it here. 781 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: We go all right, I'm like your ballot and then 782 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 4: you can cast it. Right, So ballot question number one, 783 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: j Mac, who gets your vote for coach of the year? 784 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: All right, This one, to me is not that difficult. 785 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm casting my vote see this year on the screen 786 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 3: boom for Mike Vrabel of the New England Patriots. I 787 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: long believe everybody that if you can do more with less, 788 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: you're the man for the job. And I absolutely love 789 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 3: the move the Patriots made. I think Rabel's been phenomenal. 790 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: How about this stat six and zero when quarterback Christian 791 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: Gonzales plays breaking news he's not on the injury report today. 792 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: According to Rabel, that's great news, huge game for them 793 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 3: against the Bucks. I just think Rabel's done a phenomenal 794 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: job a year ahead of schedule. All right. 795 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 4: Question number two, which means we're already up to more 796 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: than was on the California ballot yesterday. Who gets your 797 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: vote for MVP in the midterm? 798 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 9: All right? 799 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: This one another layup. I'm casting my vote. 800 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 4: Here we go. 801 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: Most Valuable comeback Player of the year. Oh, most Valuable 802 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: Player of the year. MVP, baby, yeah, MVP. This one 803 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 3: was not difficult, folks, and that's a Sammy Darnold. Yes, 804 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 3: the quarterback of the Seattle Seahawks. I know some people, Jason, 805 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: you're crazy guys just by the numbers, and this has 806 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: bothered me. Sam Darnold has been absolutely tremendous with Seattle. 807 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: The numbers are ridiculous. I know his odds are not great, 808 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 3: but he's the best downfield passer in the NFL. Seattle 809 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 3: rebooted at quarterback and wide receiver one and they're perfectly 810 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: fine getting Sam Darnold is the MVP of till now right, 811 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: So there, yeah, justin now, yeah, there you go. 812 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 4: All right? Who does now? Now do it? Who gets 813 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: your Comeback Player of the Year? 814 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: Yes, another easy one. My guy carrying my fantasy team. 815 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: I'm casting my ballot for Christian McCaffrey. Oh my gosh. 816 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 3: The usage is through the roof, probably too much, but Rachel, 817 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 3: he's been dynamic. It's interesting. Saquon Barkley really struggling this year. 818 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, who missed most of last year, he's back 819 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 3: with a vengeance. I'm not going to rattle off the numbers. 820 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 3: By the way, he is the favorite to win and 821 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year, but He's on pace for 822 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: a two thousand yard season with rushing and receiving yards 823 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: one thousand each. Pretty impressive. 824 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, now, so this is the part of 825 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 4: the ballot like when they ask you to pick judges 826 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 4: for getting a little more the end of Louise Right, 827 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 4: who gets your vote for Offensive Rookie of the Year. 828 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: This is tough because abok has been phenomenal. Tyler Warren 829 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 3: has been transformational. T Mac pretty damn good. I am 830 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 3: casting my ballot for Jackson. Yes, the ladies man in 831 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 3: New York City. He's got the popular mom. He's very cool, 832 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: swagged out. Have you seen the photos of him calling 833 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: up to New York City clubs? Yes, I mean, listen, 834 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 3: he's got the drip going on, heavy necklaces, like a 835 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: white T shirt, baggy pants. I'm like, okay, I need 836 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: that look. I mean, he's been the man and on 837 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 3: the field, Rachel, he's got like nobody's Malik Davis has 838 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 3: gone Skataboo's hurt. I gotta say I was wrong on Dart. 839 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: I think he's been outstanding Offensive Rookie of the Year. 840 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: Give it to me. He's a favorite. 841 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: By the way, He's got nobody but he's got charisma. 842 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 3: J man, he's got the rims your daughters like to say. Exactly. 843 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: Defensive rookie of the year? 844 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 3: Who you got? This was a little more challenging some 845 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: strong candidates a duel. Carter's been good, not amazing. Guys 846 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: from Seattle, Dallas, Philly. All well, but I'm gonna cast 847 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: my vote. This is with the toughest one on the ballot. 848 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: Jihad Campbell, the young linebacker for the Eagles, has basically 849 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 3: stepped into a Super Bowl winning team and not missed 850 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: a beat. I cannot believe how good he's been. Second 851 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 3: best odds right now, behind Carter. He's grading out as 852 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: the fourth best linebacker in the NFL as a rookie 853 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: according to Pro Football Focus. Jehad Campbell, Jahad Campbell, just 854 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 3: outstanding rookie year. 855 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 4: All right, so now that's the rookies overall. Who's your 856 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 4: vote for best offensive player of the year so far? 857 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think this is much of a challenge 858 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: the ballot easily. I know you want to hear Jonathan Taylor, 859 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: but no Surrey JSN Jackson Smith the JIGBA he's emerged, 860 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: I think is the best receiver in the NFL folks, 861 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 3: He's open on every play. Look at the stutter step 862 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage. He's shaking everybody. JSN absolutely 863 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 3: love it. Offensive Player of the Year. 864 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and what about defense? Who's your on nuts defensive? 865 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 9: Yeah? 866 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: This one because I don't like Jerry Jones casting that 867 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: ballot for mister Micah Parsons. I know Garrett had the 868 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 3: five sack game. Hutchinson's been great. Micah Parsons amazing. Plus 869 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: he's got a badass face mask. Loklyy that that is cool. 870 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 3: I cast my vote for Micah Parsons and the Super 871 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 3: Bowl bound Green Bay Packers. 872 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 4: You're you're just as petty as the Titans owner apparently. 873 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they love it. 874 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 4: Who gets your vote for the team who will finish 875 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: with the most regular season wins? 876 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? I had to look at the schedule and going forward, 877 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm casting my vote for the Buffalo Bills. I feel 878 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: like they unlocked something during the bye week, totally bottled 879 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 3: up Carolina, which had been rolling, and then body bag 880 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 3: the Chiefs in a big spot. I think they're in 881 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 3: really good shape. The schedule bears it out. They have 882 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 3: the Dolphins left, they have Jake Browning, Dylan Gabriel, Justin Fields, Rachel. 883 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 3: They're cooking. Yep. 884 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 4: All right, so this is the last one, which California 885 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 4: team will finish with the better record. 886 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: There's three? Yeah, well we're going to California. The screen, 887 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 3: the segments pretty fire, except with damn ballot box. Uh yeah, 888 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 3: California team there it is. I'm going with the Rams 889 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: because I'm I'm buying what cow Hurd is drinking, not 890 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: the Musenex the other stuff. I think this Rams team, 891 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the schedule lines up really really well 892 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: for them. They're they're crushing teams. How about the stat 893 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: least penalized team in the NFL for the second straight season, 894 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: and Stafford has been lights out, old man Stafford, Puca Davante, 895 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 3: My vote for the for the Ranks. 896 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 4: Yea, all that hand ringing preseason about Stafford's back and 897 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 4: totally fine. 898 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: All right, coming up final hour, I'll tell you why 899 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: one team in the NFL had the greatest day Enfranchise history. Hint. 900 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 3: They wear great and white jerseys.