1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: All right, I'll lot to get to this last hour. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: We'll update you on the migrant on the planes and 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the buses, situation between the Republican governors and of course 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: those who are a gassed at this There's been a lawsuit. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: There's also been a sheriff in Texas elected Democrat who 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: says he's going to investigate this criminally. Talk about all 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: this coming up later on this hour, but right now 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: we turn our attention to coyotes. The l Segundo Times 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: did a long story today inside the War on urban coyotes. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: There seems to be two different factions who are arguing 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: us to what to do about what appears to be 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: escalating numbers of coyote reports in many neighborhoods. John says 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: it could be the drought, some of its might be 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: the pandemic where they just felt more freer to rome. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: I'm looking in the story at a man by the 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: name of Chase Nisner, a PhD candidate at the Institute 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: for the Environment and Sustainability at UCLA. He has a 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: phrase cloud coyotes. He says that these are the types 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: of coyotes that exist on things like the next door 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: app and on social media platforms. They're not the real world. 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: I get it. And he says they're depicted as terrifying 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: phantoms that threaten the sanctity of homes and yards, eat taps, 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: and attack children with impunity. Oh, he's full of garbage. 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: That people post real photos and real videos of the coyotes. 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: He didn't. Are they attacking people, because this is some 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: of the others in this article say that chances are 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: they will not attack you. This is chances we need 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: to coexist. Chances are I don't deal with Chances are 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: they're predators. Well, there have been six reported kyoe attacks 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: on people in La County this year. Okay, that's enough. 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: That's six in a county of ten millions. Yeah, well, 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: except you're not all. The total is sixty nine between 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: twenty twelve and twenty twenty two. Most people aren't going 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: to run into aote because most people live in a 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: very city urban environment. It's where you get along the 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: edges and that's where I live. I live. They call 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: it green space. Whenever there's green space, he can have 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: coyotes must to La. There's no green space near me. 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: They have this sort of trail that's got trees and 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: a woodchip path, and that's where I've seen them. I'm 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the Santa Monica Mountains right, I'm 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: right across the street from where the elevation starts going 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: up into the mountains. So they come down out of 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: the mountains and they're on my block. So I'm at 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: a much higher risk than somebody living on I don't know, 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of El Segundo or somebody who's in 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Boil Heights. There are areas that the coyotes aren't going 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: to approach because it's too urban, it's too paved over. Well, 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: we're going to talk down to a really old Matucci. 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: He's been on our show before. In fact, it's about 51 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: the homeless. He's a Torrance City councilman, and we will 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: talk to him about an update on the homeless situation 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: in Torrance the next segment. But in this segment, we're 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: going to talk to him about what he has done 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: with the coyote problem in his community, and apparently other 56 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: surrounding communities are looking to him for some help. One 57 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: of the few in California is Torrance. They have committed 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: to year round trapping under a contract program that kills 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: about one coyote a week using oh, lethal injection. So 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: this is the crowd that apparently believes that you need 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to evict the coyotes and you gotta do what you 62 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: gotta do to get rid of them and not just 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: try to relocate them. So let's bring really along the 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: show and talk more about this. Really, how are you great? 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: How are you guys right? So fine? Torrance has had 66 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: an invasion of coyotes. Well, actually, I think everywhere has 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: got an invasion of coyotes because a lot of cities 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: don't do anything about it. So what's a vict coyotes about? Well, 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I think coyotes is really just a group of individuals 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: that have fallen victims to coyote attacks. You know, it's 71 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: funny that the article that came out doesn't really mention 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: some of the horrors that people had to endure watching 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: their their pets being torn apart by kyote in front 74 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: of them while they're trying to kick it away. These 75 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: are wild predators. They will kill and they don't discriminate. 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: They will kill um kids as well. Uh. You know, 77 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: even though there may not be a big long list 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: of attacks, I say one is one too many, and 79 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: that's why we exist. We you know, we're just literally 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: just a just a group that came together. We put 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: on some red shirts and and advocated for change, and 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: we brought change to cities like Torrents. What what was 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: the change you brought? Year round trapping? We're one of 84 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: the few cities. We may be actually the only city 85 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: that actually does year round trapping. And uh and we 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: euthanize the pet because another pet, the coyote, to protect 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: the pets. And it's the I guess the most humane 88 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: way to to rid ourselves of the over popular lation 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: of coyotes. We're not trying to we're not trying to 90 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: exterminate a whole specie. We're trying to bring down the 91 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: numbers to safer level so that we can enjoy our 92 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: backyards with our pets and not worry about a coyote 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: jumping over the fence. So what's what's the trap look like? Uh, well, 94 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: there's different types of traps. I believe we uh, the 95 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: trapper that we um hired uses like a snare trap 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: or or an actual cage trap. But I guess there 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: are different traps for different applications. But yeah, we don't 98 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: get involved in that portion of it. Oh, where did 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: they go? Where to go? Where they get the coyotes? 100 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: Where do you take them? Uh? Living down the farm? 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: There's a coyote farm out there's a coyote farm. Now 102 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: we have to euthanize them on the spot just because 103 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: they Yeah, yeah, we kill them. Yeah. We are not 104 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: allowed to move them around the state or anywhere else 105 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: because they become a pest to somebody else. Right, but 106 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: you're allowed to kill them. Oh, absolutely, Yeah, we're doing 107 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: everything by the book. We're doing everything by the book. 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Some people love it and people hate it. But the 109 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: bottom line, these these are wild animals. They're predators. They 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: will kill and they'll continue killeen, you know, and there's 111 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: really no stopping it unless you start stopping them. Especially 112 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: where I used to live, the number of cats and 113 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: dogs and other animals that got eaten was was tremendous. 114 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I heard the squealing going on. And 115 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: you have to also, you know, there's a lot of 116 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: pets that are missing that we don't know what happened 117 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to them, but we know their faith. It's probably going 118 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: to be in the jaws of a walk kyote. Yeah. No, 119 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: I went out my front door one day true. And 120 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: on the walkway, right on the paving stones, there was 121 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: a pile of bones with a furry tail sticking out 122 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: at the end. And you know, some coyote I think 123 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: it was a squirrel, left only the tail behind and 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: everything else. He'd ripped the meat off the bones, I 125 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: mean cleaned it completely. Yeah, and I get it. Look, 126 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I get it there. You know, some people will argue 127 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: that we're here first, but now we're here, we're humans. 128 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: We deserve a place to live in peace and in 129 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: a safe environment. So, you know, just like animals are protected, 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: humans should protect themselves as well. And um, you know, 131 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: so really, what all we're looking for is bring down 132 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: the numbers to where we were maybe thirty forty years 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: ago when you never even heard about coyote. So they 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: follow people, they're they're really they're not really they're great hunters, 135 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: but they love the easy, the easy meal, and the 136 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: easy meal is going to be you know, Fluffy in 137 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: the backyard. We got a small dog. We never let 138 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: them alone in the backyard to run around. No, but 139 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. There's a misconception that if you're 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: there to kyote want attack one of our one actually 141 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: one of our I a coyote group members she lost 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: two dogs right in front of her with a coyote, 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: and she's trying to literally try to beat it off, 144 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: and it just doesn't you know, I mean those things 145 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: where they're killed, that's true. I just like you've been. 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Have you been getting blowback from like the animal activists 147 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: who think this is terrible that you're euthanizing coyotes or 148 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: of course you know they showed up at our meetings 149 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: um saying how misinformed and ignorant we are. But you know, 150 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: I love hearing stories like you either are talking about 151 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: earlier the cloud coyotes. You know, yes, the cloud coyote 152 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: killed two cats this week in Torrents because you know, 153 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: these imaginary coyotes. You know, I think this guy thinks 154 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: it's an urban legend, that there's this new trend I notice, 155 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: and it comes from people in the media and people 156 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: in academia. They want to dismiss a lot of regular 157 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: people's problems because regular people go on next door app 158 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: and they talk about it and whether it's the crime, 159 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: or it's homelessness, or it's coyotes. The knee jerk now 160 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: from this crowd is oh that's just uh substantial, an 161 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: exaggeration mongering online. It's like, no, it's real. Most of 162 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: these people, whether whatever category the incident is in, they 163 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: provide photos and video. Yeah. Well, there's there's plenty of 164 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: evidence that showed that coyotes have no fear, especially the 165 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: urban coyotes, they have no fear of people that were 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: born in the noise. Uh. They they literally just walk 167 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: around the during the day like like nothing. Now, if 168 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: you had your dog off a leash, it'd probably get impounded, 169 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: but coyote is free to go around and uh and kill. Now. 170 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: You know. The other the other thing that I that 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: I also find amusing is the whole coexist uh hazing. Uh. 172 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: You know, keep your pets inside. Uh, don't don't leave 173 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: a bowl of water outside. I mean there's water everywhere, 174 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: sprinklers from the city parks. I mean, there's there's water, 175 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: there's food everywhere, there's I mean, there's an abundance of everything. 176 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: So of course they thrive here. I mean the kyote 177 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: coyotes in a urban set live almost twice as long 178 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: as in the wild. Why because there's no predators, right, 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: and they're better fit. Hang in the line. We'll talk Yeah, 180 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll talk about the efforts in 181 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: your city to do something about the homeless situation. A 182 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: really els to stand by. Thank you, John and Ken 183 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: show Kine. Well, it's like a two part conversation with 184 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: the Torrance City councilman by the name of Arelio Matucci. 185 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: We first talked about the coyote problem in Torrence and 186 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: he's part of a group called the vict Coyotes. But 187 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: now we want to turn our attention to one of 188 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: the things we talked about him when we've had him 189 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: on our show a couple of times, and that's the 190 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: situation with the homeless and really all we wanted to 191 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: tell us too. He was recently re elected to his 192 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: post on city council and he's been spearheading the efforts 193 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: do something about the homeless problem in Torrence. So we're 194 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: going to get an update from him now as to 195 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: how that's going. What's going on, Arelio, what's going on 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: in Torrence? Now? A lot going on in Torrence. Two 197 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: years in the making. We finally opened up our temporary 198 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: housing program on July so and it seems to be working. 199 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: It's too early to tell, you know, I don't want 200 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: to you know, break open the champagne yet. But you know, 201 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: we were able to take fifty one individuals off the streets. 202 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: And where are you putting them? What kind of housing 203 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: is this? Well, they're you know, nothing in old Beverly 204 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Hills housing here, but it's they're eight by eight m 205 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: mini homes kind of I guess they're called palette homes. 206 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: But they have you know, ac they got power, they 207 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: got three meals a day, they get get shower and bathrooms, 208 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: toilet trees. Oh they're not wait wait, they're not one 209 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: of those nine hundred thousand dollars Garcetti specials. And no, no, 210 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: these are about nine grand each, yeah, nine grand. And 211 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: how is it working? How's it going? Are they staying 212 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: there or some leaving back to the streets or some 213 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: leaving torrents? What do you know so far? You know, well, 214 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: so far, I can run down the numbers real quick. 215 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: We got fifty one people that were entered into the program. 216 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Six of themselves exited. Uh, some five of them were 217 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: taking out as they were following the rules, and God 218 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: forbid you give some individual's rules. There was one individual 219 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: that found permanent housing through the program. It may not 220 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: sound like much. But in two months, that's that's actually 221 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: not bad actually finding some permanent housing. We do have 222 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: six individuals that were matched up with permanent housing, so 223 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: they're on their way to get permanent housing. Now. Of course, 224 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: if housing was the main issue, it'd be a done deal, 225 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: you know, just build a bunch of homes and you 226 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: put them in there. But the reality is there's a 227 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of drug abuse, there's a lot of mental health 228 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: issues on the streets, trust and government. There's a whole 229 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different reasons why people are on 230 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: the streets. But bottom line, here in Torrance, we put 231 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: together a program that also includes an anti camping ordinance 232 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: that we are enforcing. It's the only way this program 233 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: can work if we give them a little bit tough love, 234 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: a little nudge into the program. Uh, we're not going 235 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: to allow people just to you know, land the street 236 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: and do anything. So you find some guy living in 237 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: a tent and a sleeping bag and he's in a 238 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: public space, and you tell him you can't live here anymore. 239 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: You offer him what what's the first thing you offer? 240 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Tiny home? I guess a tiny home exactly. We offered 241 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: him a tiny home. Now, tiny home is not the 242 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: only temporary shelter that we can offer. We can offer 243 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: hotel rooms days. You know, we have some some vouchers 244 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: that we can use. We're actually working with the Saft 245 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Bay COG to be able to get accessibility to more 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: vouchers so that we can actually use those as temporary housing. 247 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Now we keep on seeing temporary housing just because by 248 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: law we're required. I'm sure you heard of the Martin 249 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: versus Boise case that basically says that you can't enforce 250 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: anti camping unless you have a bed available. While in Torrents, 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: we're making beds available so that we can enforce and 252 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: a bed could be just that in a in a shelter, 253 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: right correct, It could be a thought eight by eight rooms. 254 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a six hundred thousand dollars 255 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: apartment with all the services that go with it, exactly exactly. So, 256 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: I know it's early, but are you seeing some sort 257 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: of a decrease in what's going on with camping in 258 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: the streets in public spaces there? Oh? Absolutely. We had 259 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: a pretty good size encampment at one of our parks, 260 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Columbia Park, and there were sixteen tents and as soon 261 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: as we opened this up. All sixteen were placed into 262 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the housing village and some of them were transitioned out 263 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: for various reasons. You know, we have I mean, we 264 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: have so many resources development in Alley County and it's 265 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: heavily funded. Unfortunately, there's a lot of hands in the 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: cookie jar. But there's no there's no shortage of money though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 267 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of waste. I mean, it's unfortunate. 268 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate to see. I mean, we're talking about hundreds 269 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars that are just being spent on treatment, 270 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily a cure. But what I've been seeing is, 271 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's five individuals that got permanent, uh not 272 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: permanent but employment. Uh those are great, great things. Eighteen 273 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: individuals signed up for the Venice Family Clinic. If you 274 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: know them, they're pretty much a rehab or you know 275 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: or other help. Refuses all help, then then what happens 276 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: we start with, Yeah, we obviously our police department has 277 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: been great and by the way, we're understaffed. Um, so 278 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: it's really hard to really get everyone, uh, you know, 279 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: to do everything at the same time because there's just 280 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: a lot of incidents A lot of things. But having 281 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: said that, the first step is to obviously give them 282 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: one warning, let them know about the ordinance, let them 283 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: know that there's help out there. We give them a 284 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: little trifled that gives them, you know, some information and 285 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: some options. Um if we go when we go back, 286 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: there might be a second warning. Then comes the citation, 287 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: maybe a second citation, and people might say, well, it's 288 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: just a citation. They're going to ring it up and 289 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: throw it in the trash. But citations that if you 290 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: don't show up to court, they could become a bench 291 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: warrants and at that point we can make an arrest. Ideally, 292 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: we don't want it to get to that point. We 293 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: want people to get the help that they need. That 294 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: don't all But do they do they move out of 295 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: the public area at least by then once you've gone 296 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: up to them two, three, four times and they haven't 297 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: taken the help, or they haven't taken the tiny home, 298 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: do they move on on their own because they realize 299 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: it they're not going to be left alone. I can 300 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: only speak for myself on this, but I truly, yeah, 301 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: they do move on a lot of them do move on. 302 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: They don't want to be bugged, leave me alone. I'm 303 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: out of here. And I'm okay with that because really 304 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: I think in Torrance, our philosophy here, or at least 305 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: at least my philosophy. If you don't accept the help 306 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: get out of Torrans, that's that's it, because you just 307 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: can't be on the street. You're not going to destroy 308 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: our communities. We had a rape about a month ago. 309 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: It was a transient raped a young young lady walking 310 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: her dogs. That guy should have never been here in 311 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: our streets bottom line. You know, I feel so horrible 312 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: knowing that we've been working on this for over two 313 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: years and we just couldn't get that guy off the street. 314 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, well, you're doing really good work. Yeah, thank 315 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: you very much for the update. We appreciate your efforts. 316 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: Keep us. I just want to I mean, I just 317 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: want to let you know it's not me, it's us. 318 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: I mean, staff has been working on this just literally 319 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: like twenty four seven on this. It's a very very 320 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: important issue here and Torrence, and we're trying trying to 321 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: get trying to get a grasp on what can what 322 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: works and what can we do also has a larger community, 323 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: all Right, torn City Council in Orelio Matucci. Thanks for 324 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: coming on, Thank you, sir. All right, we got more 325 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: coming up, all right, Oh yeah, quick reminder that coming 326 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: back in just three days is the Moist Line. As 327 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: always on Fridays in the five o'clock hour, you could 328 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: leave a message using that iHeartRadio app. The microphone icon 329 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: is the way you do it. You can of course 330 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: call the Moistline phone number one eight seven seven Moist 331 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: eighty six one eight seven seven six six four seven 332 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: eight eight six. There have been some developments this afternoon 333 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: on the musical migrant situation. We call it the musical 334 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: chair migrants. There have been governors in Florida and Texas 335 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: who have been bussing or putting on planes some of 336 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: the migrants to send them one of the parts of 337 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: the country, in particular democratic sanctuary cities and states. And 338 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: as John said earlier, there's been some like the Alpasso mayor, 339 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: a Democrat, who's also bust out some of the migrants 340 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: because his city has been overwhelmed. The big development this 341 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: afternoon is that we do have a lawsuit. Migrants flown 342 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: to Martha's Vineyard have a lawyer or a law firm 343 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: and they've filed the lawsuit against the Florida Governor Ron Dessansis. 344 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: The migrants claim in the suit that they were told 345 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: they've received employment, housing, and other help if they agreed 346 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: to fly to other states. Now DeSantis, the story is 347 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: that they signed consent forms. He described them I think 348 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: is homeless. I guess what he was saying was they 349 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: came to Florida, they were really destitute and homeless. I 350 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: didn't see it being any opportunity here for them. So 351 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: they talked them about, you know another place they could 352 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: go where they get a lot of aid. Well, and 353 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: that would be Martha's Vineyard, which anybody could file a 354 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: lawsuit's what's the claim here? This has escaped every well 355 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: here it comes. They are claiming that, well, the constitutional 356 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: claim is that a couple of their rights were violated. 357 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: The migrants were informed just before they landed that they 358 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: were going to the island of Martha's Vineyard. They found 359 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: themselves abandoned on the tarmac and the dark could not 360 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: get a hold of the people who previously arranged for 361 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: their travel. It says here that what happened was they 362 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: were approached outside of shelters in Texas and they lured 363 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: the migrants away, told them they received employment, housing, schooling, 364 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: and other assistance if they agreed to fly to other states. 365 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: It looks like these migrants were in Texas first and 366 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: then ended up in Florida, and then De santiss people 367 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: arrange from Yeah, you know, I read that. I don't 368 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: know why, but some of the planes were stopping in 369 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: Florida before going north. So it's violation of the fourth 370 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: and fourteenth Amendment against illegal seizure and false arrest and 371 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: more so, this is dope Newsome's claim that this was kidnapping. 372 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: They were it seized. They say they were falsely imprisoned, 373 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: and DeSantis and others committed fraud, intentially inflicted emotional distressed 374 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: and engaged a conspiracy to deprive them of their civil rights. 375 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: This is garbage, hysteria. This is funded by Democratic operatives. Oh, 376 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure, because they're they're terrified at Santa's running for president. 377 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: We're going to see a lot of this in the 378 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: next two years. DeSantis really scares them because he has 379 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: a discipline that Trump doesn't have. And that's I've read. 380 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of I've read a lot of 381 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: left wing columnists who say that they're they're afraid of 382 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: de Santists in the sense that he could win because 383 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing, he can control himself. Yes, 384 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, Trump captured a lot of people's imaginations but 385 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: eventually self destructed. This guy wouldn't, and so you're going 386 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: to see an incredible amount of negative publicity in hysteria. 387 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: Nothing was violated. It's it's total bys. They said they 388 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: were falsely told they'd be heading to Boston or Washington, 389 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: DC and provided with official looking materials about immigration. But 390 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: instead we're dropped off and Marthas Vineyard in the dark. 391 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Defendants manipulated them, stripped them of their dignity, deprived them 392 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: of their liberty. They're gonna bodily autonomy. That's a good word, 393 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: due process and equal protection under the law. It's it's 394 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: fine when you have a big budget for Athasaurus. And 395 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: you're also saying that, oh, and this is an old 396 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: argument that the federal government has exclusive control of immigration, 397 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: and they impermissibly interfered with that right. No, for an 398 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: unlawful personal political agenda. You didn't ask the big question 399 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: how much? How much they don't specify damages but a 400 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: minimum of seventy five thousand dollars is indicated. No, because 401 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: this is a political document. Show me the names of 402 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: the lawyers, show me the law firm. Let's see what 403 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: the political donations are. Let's see who their friends are. 404 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well then there there's there's there's no normal 405 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: lawyer who would care about this case, and there's no 406 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: money to be made. So this is this is this 407 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: is a political act. Yeah, I was just trying to 408 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: get the name of the law firm here. Um, I'm 409 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: looking at the actual lawsuit itself a lawsuit. I mean again, 410 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it's a distraction. It's another five minutes on a story 411 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, instead of, you know, everyone covering the 412 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: story that does matter. Is you got two million people 413 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: poured over the border. Oh, it's called the Lawyers for 414 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Civil Rights. That's their name. If you want to look 415 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: them up and see how well connected they are. Sounds 416 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 1: like it sounds like a left wing progressive whack job. Oh, 417 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna find George Soros. Yeah. No, well, 418 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean he funds a lot of these organizations. He 419 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: does other Guyers for Civil Rights? Is that their name? Yeah? Now, meanwhile, 420 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: a Democratic sheriff in Texas, Bexar County never heard of it. 421 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Sheriff Javier Salazar is going to conduct a criminal investigation 422 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: into DeSantis sending the migrants from Texas to Martha's Vineyard. So, 423 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: like we said, we were right, they were originally in Texas. 424 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: I think they are. They were Venezuelans. They are forty 425 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: eight of them. He says. It appears they were lured 426 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: under false pretenses and to staying at a hotel for 427 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: a couple of days, and then they were flown to 428 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Florida and then on to Martha's Vineyard. I can't figure 429 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: out why that happened, why they ended up going from 430 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: Texas to Florida. Maybe maybe I don't know. Maybe well 431 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe Abbott and Descanti's coordinated on this. No, but he 432 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: claims that somebody was paid a fee to gather the 433 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: immigrants from a San Antonio migrant resource center. So, in 434 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: other words, they're making the case here that somebody came 435 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: up with the brilliant idea of let's take them to 436 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard. Now just go and find a collection of them. 437 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: And this is the supposedly and again they ended up 438 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: in Martha's Vineyard, which is one of the most beautiful 439 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: places to It is a vacation in the worldtis. It's 440 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: got lots of resources. I don't know who knew that 441 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Martha's Vineyard was filled with xenophobes. I mean the xenophobic response, 442 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: that's the word they use, right, the xenophobic hatred, deporting 443 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: them off the island, sending them to Cape Cod. It's 444 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: just astonishing how dark their hearts are. So, I guess 445 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: they decided they didn't have the services they're so. Do 446 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: you think there's a homeless shelter in Martha's Vineyard with services? 447 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: Do you need you need a homeless shelter. You need 448 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: like a social services set up there to get these people. 449 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: You need some cots and you buy them some food. 450 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: That's all you need first day. I guess they didn't 451 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: think they had the infrastry if a hurricane hit Martha's Vineyard, 452 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: they'd be able to handle things. They just didn't they 453 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: know they're they're they're they're racist at Martha's Vineyard. All right, 454 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: it was forty eight white school children. Do you think 455 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: it would have been a problem. No, if it was 456 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: forty oh, they would have kept them. You mean sure. 457 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Let's say it's a forty eight white girls, a church 458 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: group and they suddenly ended on a plane and said 459 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: they were just suddenly ended up Martha's Vineyard, got left behind. 460 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, they're both brought down. If they were US 461 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: citizens who rut, they would, well, that would be kidnapping. 462 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: You can't just put no, no no, no, but send them 463 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: to no. You mentioned my point. If if if it 464 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: was forty eight white girls, Let's say they were on 465 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: a vacation or something, a trip, right, a church trip, 466 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: and then their their boat broke down. They couldn't get 467 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: off the island, they had to spend the night. Everybody 468 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: would have found accommodations for them. Oh, because it's just 469 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: a night. Well two nights, let's say three nights. Do 470 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: you think they would have been taken care of. Nobody 471 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: would have complain. Everybody more than two nights help They said, oh, no, 472 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you can come in. We have a guest room, we 473 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: have a pacement. Obamas have a mansion. No, this is 474 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: this is them being this is the Martha's Vineyard crowd 475 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: being very uncomfortable with very poor migrants, don't speak English, 476 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: and they don't want them around. That's why they freaked out. 477 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: It's almost like the way rich people react when so 478 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: they see somebody in the neighborhood who shouldn't be there. 479 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: All right, we got more coming out. This is what 480 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: most West Side Liberals or Martha's Vineyard Liberals are like 481 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: in captivity. This is the way they act behind closed 482 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: ignore the signs they put on their lawn. This is 483 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: what they're really about. Johnny Kent carefibe Well, a spokeswoman 484 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: for a Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida, has provided Fox 485 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: News her name is tarn Finski, with the consent forms 486 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: that were signed by the migrants. It was available in 487 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: English and Spanish. It basically said, I born on blank, 488 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: agree to be transported by the benefactor or it's designated 489 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: representative to locations outside of Texas, to locations in sanctuary states. 490 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: Actually wrote that in the consents Hey up, yep, yeah, 491 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: but it's all signed at the bottom. I agree to 492 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: hold the benefactor or designated representative harmless of the liability 493 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: coming out of this. By any way. It's a little 494 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: hard to read the rest of because it's in small print, 495 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: but basically it's like a waiver. Yeah, they knew they 496 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: would be taken to a sanctuary. That's what they were 497 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: where they were going. Martha's Vineyard declared themselves a sanctuary 498 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: set in New York and Washington in Chicago. This this 499 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: is being called on. People really get embarrassed when they're hypocrites. 500 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: I you know, I don't deal in hypocrisy, I pretty much. 501 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just say what I feel. 502 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: And but politicians and a lot of left wing progressives 503 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: like to virtue signal, and so they're easy targets for hypocrisy. 504 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: And that's they were setting ducks on this one. And 505 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: somebody like De Santis and Greg Abbott, they're fearless. It's like, hey, 506 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: you know what, you're a sanctuary. What does that mean? 507 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: That's what I always wondered, what does it mean? Well, 508 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: we found out they didn't mean it. They're pole. Generally, 509 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: it means that you're not going to turn them over 510 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: to the fence for possible deportation. That's kind of what 511 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: sanctuary policies are about. But the general Yeah, but but 512 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: but the word sanctuary means a refuge, right Like a 513 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: church is a sanctuary if you're if you're in some 514 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of distress, you can go to a church, let's 515 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: say you're a woman being chased by a violent boyfriend. Right, 516 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: they'll they'll take you in, They'll take care of you. 517 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: That's what sanctuary means the dictionary version of the common version. 518 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: So well, they were described as homeless, hungary, and looking 519 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: for services that apparently Florida could not provide. And when 520 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: they were informed about the availabilities of services in a 521 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: sanctuary state, they said that they took the opportunity, and 522 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately they were dropped on an island of xenophobes. You know, 523 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: these things happen. Conway's here and Mark Thompson's ding dong. Right, Yeah, 524 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: we got Mark Mark Thompson Tuesday. Right, that's kind of cool. 525 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: Day is named after him. Thompson Tuesday and California employers 526 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: will soon be banned from screening workers for marijuana. That's 527 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: a good thing, isn't they. Yeah. I guess unless you're 528 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: like a pilot, I don't know, you've lucked out. Yeah, no, kid, 529 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I I only got two more weeks, right, and then 530 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: they won't be able to blood test me anymore. Uh. 531 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: The NTSB is recommended that all vehicles be required to 532 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: have a blood alcohol monitoring system right, not to run anymore. 533 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: Good news and bad news for Conway today. Kind of 534 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: a mixed report. Yeah, yeah, here's more bad news. Oh, 535 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't cook your chicken and Nike wall anymore. The 536 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: FDA is warning a dangerous social media challenge. We are 537 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: a fat and happy culture when we're doing that crap, 538 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: aren't we? Stupid society? Yeah? And then Maury Wills died. 539 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe that, although I thought he had died 540 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: a long time. No I did. I don't say that 541 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: the memorial service, right, um, But yeah, he was a 542 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: bass steeler, shortstop, great guy. Right. Oh he was a 543 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: great player. Yeah, fantastic player, and I passed away the 544 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: most exciting to watch. Plush. Susan Michaels will be with 545 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: us from cat Con. Is that your book? Yeah, that's where. 546 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: It's a big cat con, a whole weekend. It's a 547 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: wild cat Con weekend coming up. What does that mean? 548 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: It means that they actually all of us cat people 549 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: descend on the convention center. I think you maybe have 550 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: the people who dress up like furry cats. No, no, no no, no, 551 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: these are cat children. I'm making it sound a little 552 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: wackier than it is. It's cat enthusiasts and you know 553 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: those who are okay, but it's like because you know, 554 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: we're ridiculed, but we are cat lovers and this is 555 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: fine in the place where we can all be with 556 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: each other. Why you're ridiculed, I understand it, but I 557 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: feel that there's some cheap shots taken. But there's some 558 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: good news here. Since twenty fifteen, cat Con has raised 559 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars for animal organizations. Three thousand dollars. Yeah, 560 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: what that doesn't sound like. That doesn't sound right. Well 561 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: then h then you guys open your wallets. 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