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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck, coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Sagura. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: and welcome into Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio, Nathan Tigura, Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: On this glorious first Friday, Bow Bishop head into the

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Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom. Baby, oh Man, what a treat. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's there yet. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a real treat for him, though. He's gonna Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be me and give a with you here today on

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Speaker 1: the program. For the next two hours, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: around the league. We're gonna talk about, obviously, some of

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Speaker 1: the huge sports stories of the day. At one thirty,

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Speaker 1: the Senior Annals for Football Outsiders dot Com and New

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Speaker 1: York Times sports contributor Mike Tanier will join the program

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Speaker 1: be the twisted to hotline, of course, and two o'clock

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Speaker 1: hour we will go break down the cornerbacks a room

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Speaker 1: that you've got all three of your starters back, but

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Speaker 1: look like we really have three outside corners. Will dive

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Speaker 1: into that a little bit later. From CBS Sports dot

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Speaker 1: Com to fifteen will rank all of the starters in

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Speaker 1: the Eagles Chiefs matchup. My guests, I haven't looked at it.

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Speaker 1: Give my guess is that the Eagles will have seven

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Speaker 1: of fun talking to a good friend of the program.

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Speaker 1: Omar ruise. But GiB A, we start exactly where you

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Speaker 1: would want to start a program, singing the praises of

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, who last night topped Kareem Abdul Jabbar who

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Speaker 1: what was actually a really cool moment. I thought, uh

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Speaker 1: I know you're not the biggest Lebron James guy, but

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, I do not think Kyler Murray will be

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Speaker 1: ready to start the season, which probably figured as much.

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Speaker 1: My guess is he won't be ready until at least

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Speaker 1: mid season whenever. That's hampering the head coach search well.

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Speaker 1: According to Terry Bradshaw, who sat down and did an

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Speaker 1: interview um with somebody from Newsday, he said that he

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Speaker 1: spoke at Sean Payton was Terry Bradshaw's colleague obviously at Fox,

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Speaker 1: and said that he would not even think about the

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Speaker 1: Arizona deal because he did not want to work with

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and that he didn't really want Russ. But

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Speaker 1: he went to Denver in spite of Russell Wilson and

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Speaker 1: he heard already I'm saying, all this nonsense that was

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Speaker 1: happening last year is not happening anymore. So I think

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Speaker 1: this will be a little bit of a wake up

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Speaker 1: call for for Russell Wilson, and perhaps it will help

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Speaker 1: bring out the best of him. Obviously, Sean Payn's got

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Speaker 1: a pretty darn good track record there. UH some notes

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Speaker 1: from UH. The Titans of promoted passing game coordinator Tim

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Speaker 1: Kelly to be their new offensive coordinator the team announced yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Uh former Texans offensive coordinator known for he being to

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Speaker 1: Shawn Watson developed and also Colt's owner, Jim Ursay revealed

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Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday, I love this guy. That the final

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Speaker 1: decision on the team's next head coach hiring is expected

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Speaker 1: in the coming days. That has been a long and

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Speaker 1: thorough process. As his Arizona. Those are the last two

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Speaker 1: jobs that remain open. It would lead you to believe

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Speaker 1: that they're going after the Philly o C. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they haven't named the coach yet, the thought it

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Speaker 1: is probably that or the no, the Philly d C.

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Speaker 1: Right Gannon No, Sane Shane Stechen or Yeah, that's interesting. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was one of the three finalists. All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Mike Tanier joins Us talked about Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl fifty seven, big offseason stories for the NFL Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He's there, He's in Arizona. I'm jealous. All right, more

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Speaker 1: when we return on Clean Brown's Daily brought to you

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Speaker 1: out on the Twisted Tea Hotline right now and are

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Speaker 1: joined by the senior analysts for Football Outsiders dot Com,

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Speaker 1: a New York Times sports contributor Mike Tinier, who was

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Twisted Tea, hard iced Tea and

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Speaker 1: official sponsor of the Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Mike,

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Speaker 1: How are you do we have Mike? I'm here, Mike.

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? I'm doing well. Are we on

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Speaker 1: the air right now? We are on the air. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. We cut off for a minute. These

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Speaker 1: things happen when you're at the super Bowl. You have

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Speaker 1: to be expect the unexpected. You're exactly right. Well, you

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Speaker 1: got everybody on their cell phones. Everything going on there.

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Speaker 1: How is it down in Phoenix? What's kind of the

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Speaker 1: buzz around this game between you know, the number one Seeds,

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny, it's quiet, too quiet, as they say. You know,

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Speaker 1: the city of Phoenix is beautiful, It is funny, and

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Speaker 1: it is very spread out, so some of that energy,

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Speaker 1: some of that sizzle you get from being in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We're not feeling it yet. Not a lot

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Speaker 1: of fans in town. I think the fans are in

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Speaker 1: town are spread out all across the desert, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: But you know, when we're in here, when we're close

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Speaker 1: to Radio Row, when we're in the media center, the

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Speaker 1: talk is very much about the fact that this is

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Speaker 1: a really fun game, and it's really a close game,

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Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of, like I said before,

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Speaker 1: expect the unexpected type of game, because you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of obvious storylines, and then there's just the

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Speaker 1: factor of, man, these teams are great. They're the two

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Speaker 1: number one seeds. Let's see what happens. What do you

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Speaker 1: make of the narrative that the Eagles have had kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, a primrose path. They have not been tested. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: what happened in the Niner game turned what should have

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Speaker 1: been I think one of the better NFC champion games

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Speaker 1: in recent memory into kind of a debacle. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of that narrative? And what do the numbers

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Speaker 1: tell you about just how good this Eagle's team is.

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Speaker 1: It's horse feathers and I'll say this, the Eagles generated

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Speaker 1: seventies sacks in the regular season. That's the most since

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Speaker 1: nineteen nine. So like when the Bear so I think

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Speaker 1: has seventy three sacks, when they knocked quarterbacks out of

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Speaker 1: the game, when they knocked Jo Montana out of the

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Speaker 1: game years ago. Was that luck or was that skill

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Speaker 1: that was obviously skilled? This is a team that generates

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Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. So you're the San Francisco Fortyners,

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Speaker 1: you have a thirst tring rookie. What do you have

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Speaker 1: to do protect your quarterback? If you fail to protect

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, is that luck or is that the other

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Speaker 1: team's skill that gets skill? That is the Eagles demonstrating

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Speaker 1: one of the ways they can beat you. And I'll

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Speaker 1: say this. You know, we had a team in the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings in the NFL this year who won a

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Speaker 1: lot of games, reached the playoffs, and every game was

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Speaker 1: against a weak opponent and it was a fuel goal

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Speaker 1: at the at the at the last minute, that flock.

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Speaker 1: That's flukey. You could look at that team and say

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Speaker 1: their prime to get beaten, and they were primed to

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Speaker 1: get beaten, and they were beaten by the Giants. Eagles

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Speaker 1: did play some easier opponents, they beat the daylight saddle them.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the animallets going back decades,

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Speaker 1: great teams beat the daylights out of bad opponents. You

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Speaker 1: can actually use that as a better predictor than what

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Speaker 1: they do in close games against good opponents, because they

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Speaker 1: are demonstrating how far above average above the rest of

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Speaker 1: the league they are. And then when you get into

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Speaker 1: games like we saw in the playoffs, they continue to

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Speaker 1: demonstrate that. Yeah, you mentioned right off the top of

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Speaker 1: the seventies sacks. You know, they had second place I

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Speaker 1: think was fifty five. This year they had four guys

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Speaker 1: with double digit sacks. The son Raddicks kind of continued

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Speaker 1: that tear here into the playoffs. Is that the matchup

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Speaker 1: of the game in your mind, that defensive line and

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Speaker 1: that pass rush against Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs passing game,

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Speaker 1: that is one of the key matchups. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I was talking with some other UH shows about well

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Speaker 1: how do the Chiefs combat that? Now, the Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: a very good offensive line, but I'm not now standing one.

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Speaker 1: They can neutralize things to a little bit, but they

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Speaker 1: can't neutralize it all the way. So what does Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid do? Does he keep tight ends into block. Do

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Speaker 1: you keep Travis Kelsey into block That sounds like a

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Speaker 1: terrible idea. Do you put your other ones in your

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Speaker 1: other tight ends in the answer is, I think he's

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Speaker 1: going to look to the screen game. Uh. The Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid has been running the screen bag games to successfully

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Speaker 1: for decades. He will do like like tight end screens,

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Speaker 1: middle screens, screens to McKinnon, he's got all sorts of

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Speaker 1: concepts and wrinkles in there, and that's the way to

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Speaker 1: make has On Reddick and the others come after your

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Speaker 1: quarterback and throw it over their heads on a short pass.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things you can do that will help.

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Speaker 1: But then the question is how many screens do you

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Speaker 1: think you can run? That's great, twice a game, three

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Speaker 1: times a game, it's not nineteen times a game. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that's one of the matchups. I think

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Speaker 1: leans heavily in the Eagles direction. So that's a big one.

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Speaker 1: And this battles from at Football Outsiders dot com, where

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Speaker 1: you can read Mike's work. Uh, this is the number

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Speaker 1: one offense the Chiefs in terms of d v o A.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles are number three in terms of off and

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Speaker 1: so flipping it around. I know you just wrote about

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, Jalen Watson, Joshua Williams not rookies anymore, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of amazing what they've been able to do

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Speaker 1: with rookies in their secondary against obviously very good passing attacks.

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Speaker 1: They'll get Lagarius sneed back, but that they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: tested a J. Brown Davante Smith. That is a dynamic

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Speaker 1: duo there. What did you make kind of of the

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Speaker 1: evolution of these dbs. It feels like it's almost unprecedented

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Speaker 1: to do what Kansas City he's doing with that many

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Speaker 1: rookies in the secondary, and how do you kind of

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Speaker 1: see that matchup going. You're exactly right, And I got

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Speaker 1: to talk to those young men and they're outstanding young

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Speaker 1: man and they're very confident and they've been working hard

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Speaker 1: during the season to improve. Earlier in the year you

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Speaker 1: would see Watson get toasted, Williams get toasted. McDuffie was hurt.

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Speaker 1: Now they're all back, they're all playing at a higher level.

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Speaker 1: You saw them get interceptions against Joe Barrow, But this

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Speaker 1: is Davante Smith, this is a J. Brown. This is

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Speaker 1: an offensive line that will protect Jalen hursts, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the differences that we're gonna see

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Speaker 1: between the Bengals game a couple of weeks ago, where

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Speaker 1: Joe Barrow threw a couple of picks because Joe Barrow

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Speaker 1: was running for his life a lot in the second half,

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Speaker 1: whereas Jalen hurts. Again. This is a big matchup advantage

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles. Their outstanding offensive line against Chris Jones,

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal defensive tackle, like an All Pro, and then

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys, you know, the guys other than that.

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Speaker 1: So so you can you can scheme the kind of

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Speaker 1: limit Jones as best you can. So again, those those

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks will be tested. I think that they're outstanding players,

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Speaker 1: but I think this is a matchup that's going to

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Speaker 1: lean once again towards the Eagles. Was Chris Jones's performance

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Speaker 1: in the a f C Championship Game one of the

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Speaker 1: most singularly dominant performances from a defensive lineman or am

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Speaker 1: I being a prisoner at the moment. It just felt

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Speaker 1: like he took that game over and whenever they needed

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Speaker 1: to play, Chris Jones made it. I don't know, it's up,

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Speaker 1: It's up. There. And you know what, Chris Jones in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago against the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners in the fourth quarter. He blew up everything

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Speaker 1: in that game too, So so it's it's it's definitely

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Speaker 1: the top three Chris Jones performances. And that's gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you what kind of player he is. But but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is phenomenal, and and that is one I think

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Speaker 1: it is a seminal moment that people will remember for

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Speaker 1: a long time. All Right, So I kind of talked

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Speaker 1: up what I thought were maybe two of the bigger

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Speaker 1: matchups in the game. You said both gave the advantage

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles. So do you believe the Eagles win

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Speaker 1: this game? I believe they do, But I believe it's

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Speaker 1: this is incredibly close because the Kansas City Chief's stack

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Speaker 1: of of things that they have are Mahomes, Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, and Chris Jones that you know, those are

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Speaker 1: four big pieces like the big chips the stack, right,

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Speaker 1: and then the Eagles have like all the other chips

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Speaker 1: like so so they've got a pile of smaller chips

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs have the big chips. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: my boss Aaron shot says, you know, when in doubt,

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Speaker 1: go with the better quarterback, And that seems like a

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Speaker 1: logical case. Here, go to the better quarterback, go with

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Speaker 1: the more experienced, gifted head coach, Go with the Hall

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Speaker 1: of famers who've already declared themselves hall of famers. They're

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Speaker 1: all on the chief side of things. But matchup after matchup,

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Speaker 1: going through the analytics, going through short you already advantages cornerback, advantages,

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Speaker 1: offensive line, and it is I keep thinking that the

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Speaker 1: tilt is going in the direction of the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think would you agree with if if the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are going to win this game, it's incoming upon them

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Speaker 1: to force the Eagles to play from behind either, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the somewhere in the second half. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that makes sense because making the Eagles more one dimensional,

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Speaker 1: taking out the idea that they can run run fifteen

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Speaker 1: different ways against you, then go over the top. You

639
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Speaker 1: want to get that out of there. And one of

640
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Speaker 1: the things the Chiefs have not done against better opponents

641
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: is tilt the game in that favor. The Chiefs tend

642
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Speaker 1: to get into these shootouts, and if they get into

643
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: that kind of shootout type of game, the Eagles will

644
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: be able to hang with them because the Eagles can

645
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: be explosive in their running game as acasting game. Certainly

646
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: you look at you know, Hurt Stumble, digit touchdown, Sanders

647
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns, that line that you referenced. I mean,

648
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: they're a pretty darn complete team. You gotta tip your

649
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: hat to Howie Roseman. There aren't a lot of weaknesses

650
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Speaker 1: on that team. If if there, if there are, what

651
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: are they and if you're the Chiefs, how do you

652
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: exploit them? The Eagles are not strong at safety. Uh,

653
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: they're not particularly strong in the linebacker like this, there's

654
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of the soft middle of the defense.

655
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Speaker 1: And they're not an outstanding run team. So on the

656
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: one hand, Kelsey will find opportunities to get open. There's

657
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: nobody who's like this is Mike Travis Kelsey news neutralizer.

658
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: That's one advantage that I think will help the Chiefs.

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00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs were a running team, they could use

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Speaker 1: that to their advantage. But not only are they just

661
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: kind of a social running team, but any Red don't

662
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: like that can have like a great running attack and

663
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'll use this when I'm already up

664
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Speaker 1: by three touchdowns. I'm not going to use this right now.

665
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: So one of the things Andy could do, and again

666
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Speaker 1: this is one of the greatest game planners, especially with

667
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Speaker 1: two weeks to prepare in NFL history, he might say, well,

668
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Speaker 1: here's something they're not going to expect. Power running with

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco and Jack McKinnon. He could pull that out

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00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: and that could help them. The Chiefs create a slow

671
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: down game that maybe, you know, surprises the Eagles a

672
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: bit trying to squeeze the football. Talking with Mike Tinere

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00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: right now senior annals for Football Siders dot com and

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Speaker 1: contributes to the New York Times Sports as well. Uh,

675
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned short yardage advantage and you wrote an article

676
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: about the secrets of the push Jalen Hurts Club, which

677
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: are the guys that they get those sneaks they get

678
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: behind them, they push them. Number one, do you like

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00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: the rule that that is allowed? It feels like it's

680
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: everywhere now in the NFL. It almost feels like sneaks

681
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: for the most part, are foregone conclusions. Do you think

682
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: the NFL addresses that rule? And then number two, what

683
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: makes what the Eagles do so effective? Well? Number one,

684
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Speaker 1: I do get to talk to Mike Pereira a little

685
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: bit yesterday and like he thinks the competition Committee is

686
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: going to say, show us the injury data. Now, if

687
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: you look at this season, they didn't see a lot

688
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Speaker 1: of injuries on sneaks. I don't think we saw even

689
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: a lot of players where it looks like an injury

690
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: was about to happen, like oh my god, they're twisting

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Speaker 1: the quarterback like a preps So I don't think we've

692
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Speaker 1: seen that. So on that side of things, if it's

693
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Speaker 1: not injurious, then let them play. Let's convert some more

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Speaker 1: for fourth downs, Let's score some more touchdowns, Let's have

695
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: some more commercials, and let's make some more money. I mean,

696
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the way, uh the NFL operates. Um,

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00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: what the Eagles do that's different about it. I Mean,

698
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: one thing I came away with is that there is

699
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Speaker 1: a lot of diversity to their sneaks. Not only have

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: they been practicing this and executing it, but if you

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: go back and just putting quarterback sneaks on YouTube and

702
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: watch them different personnel, it's different formations. It doesn't always

703
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: look the same. You're not always tipped off that it's

704
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: the case. Then they've done one or two pleas from

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Speaker 1: the sneak formation. I know they didn't one against the

706
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: Giants where it turned out to be a pitch play

707
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: in a game twenty five yards. So that's the kind

708
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: of like focus on this high leverage, high importance play

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00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: that the Eagles put in that's paying dividends with them

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00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, it really is. It's fun to watch

711
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: the way that they're able to do that. Um, obviously

712
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: this game is the big one. You mentioned you are

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Speaker 1: picking the Eagles in a close game over the Chiefs here,

714
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Speaker 1: So I just want to talk about if anything else

715
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: has kind of been bandied about. We know Sean Payton

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00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: has gone to Denver just from a big NFL. Are

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00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: there any kind of stories there for this season or

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Speaker 1: are you expecting more of that When we get to

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00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: Indianapolis to the combine, when everybody obviously starts talking and

720
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Speaker 1: looking ahead to the next season, everybody's talking about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: And you know, guys, I heard Aaron Aaron Rodgers has

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: locked himself in a closet or blasted himself in the

723
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: space he plans to Yes, he's sleeping in a coffin.

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Speaker 1: I don't quite understand what's happening. But everybody who's everybody's

725
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: getting a microphone put in front of their face and said,

726
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: where is Aaron Rodgers going to go? And of course

727
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers don't know. The teams that might be suitors for

728
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: him don't know. But but that's the story that keeps

729
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: rolling and rolling and rolling here and guess what it's

730
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: going to be rolling and rolling for weeks to come.

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Speaker 1: Do you find the way that he is kind of

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00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: it's almost like he's anti Green Bay to just be odd?

733
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Speaker 1: Or is that a product of them not surrounding him

734
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Speaker 1: with talent? I mean the fact that he's only you know,

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00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: one one super Bowl is probably will go down and

736
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: look at that as as an organizational failure given how

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: good he individually has been. But do you find the

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00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: whole thing a little bit odd? The way that his

739
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: career is finding down or if he has in fact

740
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: played his last snap for the Green Bay Packers. Everything

741
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: about him is odd. It's very very odd. But I

742
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: would say that he seems like the kind of guy

743
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: who needs lots and lots and lots of reassurance, like

744
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: tell me you love me, show me you love me,

745
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: show me some more. Show me financially, show me emotionally,

746
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: say things in the press, do things that I want

747
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: you to do. He needs a lot of that, and

748
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: every offseason he kind of goes into that mode where

749
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: he loves the speculation, He loves uh being this man

750
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: of mystery, and he kind of craves this attention to

751
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: a degree, and to degree, green Bays kind of stuck

752
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: with it. I don't think that this is how they

753
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: want to do business every year, but you know, the

754
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: alternatives are not always great. So we'll see what happens

755
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: this year. But when you start stacking up things like

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in New York, I mean, I imagine Ary

757
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Rodgers in New York. That doesn't really make any sense

758
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: that the post in the Daily News would lose their

759
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: minds over this guy talking about sleeping in deprivation chambers

760
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. You try to picture him in

761
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. I don't think the money adds up for

762
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Los Vegas. So like, there's a lot of places where

763
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: you come back to, the only match up, the coupling

764
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: that makes sense, like it or not, is the Packers

765
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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. It is wild there. Since this is

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns j A just couple of Brown's questions for

767
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Speaker 1: you as you wrap it up. Just overall, when you

768
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: looked at this season that obviously it was a strange

769
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: one with the Sean coming in for the final six games,

770
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the team blowing very easy games early on and obviously

771
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: ultimately coming up short of their goal of making the playoffs.

772
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Speaker 1: When you look at this Browns team, what do you

773
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: like about this team? And then what were the the

774
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: issues that need to be addressed? And obviously they made

775
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: us a change at the defensive coordinator position. Joe Woods out,

776
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: he's now in New Orleans, Jim Schwartz is in UH,

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Speaker 1: and you know they're obviously gonna have to make some

778
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: address some things this offseason in terms of personnel. But

779
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: just got a big picture with the Browns. What did

780
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: you see kind of this year and what gives you

781
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: a cause for optimism going forward? If anything. I like

782
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I like the running game. I like

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00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: the potential Watson has to kind of improve on what

784
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: was clear a sort of rusty end of season there.

785
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Speaker 1: And I like the hiring of Schwartz. But the problem

786
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Speaker 1: I have with Schwartz somebody who has followed his career

787
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia followed his career in Detroit. Is that his

788
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: entire system, especially pass rush, requires a Doma Kang Sue

789
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: or a Fletcher Cox in the middle of that defensive line.

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00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: And there is no one even approaching a Domakang Sue

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Speaker 1: or a Fletcher Cox to be in the middle of

792
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: that defensive line so that Garrett can be out of

793
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: his little island out there and and and murdering quarterbacks

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00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: and not worrying about you know, you know, double teams

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Speaker 1: and on. So I don't know where. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where the Browns get that Domakan Su or Fletcher Cox

797
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: without a first round pick, with some cap issues to

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00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: uh to uh uh to handle. And I keep making

799
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: the joke to some of my friends around here is

800
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to go out in free agency

801
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: on the cheap and they're gonna have to sign Fletcher

802
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: Cox and Domakan Sue in their thirties on one year

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00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: deals to kind of come in and do Schwartz system.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot that they're doing very well, but

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00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: there's it's very going in two directions at once. Unfortunately,

806
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: because the lack of the resources, they have to get

807
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: better right now for the trades that they made. No,

808
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: you're right right, it's it feels like a long shot.

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00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why Washington will let him go, but

810
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: that Adron Payne could find his way to Cleveland just

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00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: the most financially like a challenge to your point. Well,

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00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: you know that that's a good example because it's Washington

813
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: and they do dumb things and you could be the

814
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: team that benefits from that. But that's the kind of

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00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: movie you do have to make. All right. Well, hope

816
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: we'll keep our fingers crossed. Pass that on to Andrew Barry. Mike,

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00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the time. Enjoy yourself in

818
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: the Valley of the Sun and looking forward to a

819
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: great Super Bowl this Sunday. Absolutely, you take care of guysman,

820
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: enjoy the big game. All right. That was Mike Tinure

821
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Speaker 1: joining us on the Twisted T hotline. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: find his working Football Outsiders dot Com and in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times Twisted T official sponsor the Clean Browns.

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Speaker 1: Keep it twisted Cleveland, all right, Gibbe, you heard it

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: right there. He likes the Eagles in this one, and

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00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: because in the key matchups the Eagles seem to have

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Speaker 1: an advantage and it was funny. We were talking and

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Speaker 1: I was looking up Jalen Hurts his numbers this year,

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Speaker 1: Jalens this season. Gibbe, donna do it a guest. The stats.

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Speaker 1: It's classic, classic Gibbe. Okay, all right, GiB give me

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Speaker 1: his completion percentage, passing yards he played fifteen games. To

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Speaker 1: give you completion percentage, passing yards, touchdowns and interceptions. Completion

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00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: percentage passing yards, go complete. Okay, passing yards games, fifteen games.

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Speaker 1: He's got some wide out dst hundred yards. Gibbe. My

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Speaker 1: way off probably uh from a touchdown standpoint, I just

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Speaker 1: would remind you this is the number one rushing correct

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Speaker 1: yards might be a lot, but anyway, go ahead, touchdowns

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00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: minor detail. Uh. So with that, I will totally screw

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Speaker 1: up my argument. Twenty six touchdowns and how many picks,

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Speaker 1: I would say five? Okay, alright, So you said six

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Speaker 1: was sixty six point five pc. Alright, not bad, not bad.

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00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: You said hundred yards it was thirty seven oh one,

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00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: so five hundred. You said twenty six touchdowns, it was

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Speaker 1: twenty two two. That's it with those, hold on, we'll

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00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: get that. We'll get to the next piece. And then

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Speaker 1: you said five picks, it was six, so you were

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00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: pretty much right on it. As quarterback rating was one over.

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00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: But you're you understood his efficiency and is gonna all right?

849
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Speaker 1: What do you think his rushing numbers were this season?

850
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: Rushing numbers just yards and touchdowns. We'll call it yards,

851
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like eight hundred yards rushing and I

852
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: know it was double digit touchdowns. I said, good, good

853
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: paying attention on the interview. Um, I want to say

854
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: it was touchdowns alright, seven sixty and thirteen were the actuals.

855
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: So you were right on there. But so when you

856
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: had that in so thirty five touchdowns that he accounted

857
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: for personally in fifteen games, seven hundred six plus thirty

858
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: seven oh one is forty three hundred and sixty one

859
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: yards of offense in fifteen games. The guy was basically

860
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: almost at three hundred yards of offense and over two

861
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns a game. Pretty pretty earn good. Twenty two passing

862
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns with those whiteouts. The only concerning thing there is

863
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: like because they white outs are divas, and whiteouts want

864
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: the balmore and white outs want touchdowns. A J. Brown

865
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: had a career high in receiving yards this year. A J.

866
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: Brown had I believe hundred. I want to say A. J.

867
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: Brown had four six and eleven. Davante Smith had ninety

868
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: five catches eleven ninety six and seven. So basically it

869
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: was those two and Goddard in twelve games had seven

870
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: hundred two yards and three scores. They they caught. Yeah,

871
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: that's all. That's basically all of that's the vast majority

872
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: of it. The next closest person was Quiz Watkins at

873
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: three fifty four yards and three touchdowns. Nobody else had

874
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: two hundred yards on the team, So it was the

875
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: big three for them that got it done. But no,

876
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: he Jay Brown was pumped. But you gotta remember Miles

877
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Sanders had sixty nine yards and eleven touchdowns himself. They

878
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: had thirty two touchdowns rushing this season and rushed for

879
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards. Man, it's a nice it's a nice

880
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: balance kids, if you can get it. Yeah, no, there,

881
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: there's there's a reason that they are in the super

882
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: Bowl exactly, and that offensive line is so Hurts was

883
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: sacked thirty eight times in fifteen games, so not even

884
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: three a game. Just over to a game, they're yeah,

885
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: they're they're darn good and we're gonna all get to

886
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: see that on display. I think it's gonna be a

887
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: very fun game they had. I think it was eight

888
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: pro bowlers. Hurts as a pro bowler, Miles Sanders as

889
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: a pro bowler. A. J. Brown was a pro bowler.

890
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: That's three, Reddick Slay that's four, five, Landon Dickerson is six,

891
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey is seven. I think they had one more. Anyway,

892
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: look at it. That's a lot of pro bowlers, by

893
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: the way, total sidebar. Uh, good news. The owners are

894
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: in agreement with the Cleveland Browns Daily crew that chant

895
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: conference championship games do not need to be played at

896
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: neutral sites. Rooney in Pittsburgh. Good. And then today Chief's

897
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: owner Clark Hunt. Those are those are two stalwarts. Uh,

898
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: amazing good. It would be a travesty. It would be awful.

899
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: It would be a total travesty. That's why you earn

900
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: the number one seed. Well, here here's the interesting thing

901
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: Clark Hunt today. H he has this view despite the

902
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: fact that his late father, Lamar Hunt, had proposed neutral

903
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: site championship games more than once before his death in

904
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: two thousand six. Uh, it's actually something my dad mentioned

905
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: a couple of times to the league. You thought it

906
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: might be good, but having experienced it now for five

907
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: years in a row, getting to host that game is

908
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: such a special reward for the regular season and a

909
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: way to reward your fans who have been so loyal

910
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: throughout the year. Yes, one team, two teams in the

911
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: league get to host the biggest game that they can host,

912
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: right Otherwise that's it. Only one team gets those a

913
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: champion of game in the a f C. One team

914
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: gets host in the NFC. And it is the coolest

915
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: thing for those fans. It's the coolest environment on TV.

916
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't match up in any way, shape or

917
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: form to do it any other way. And so I'm

918
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: glad that that those owners of that ILK have spoken

919
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: up and said not happening, We're not doing it, because

920
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: I think that that's exactly what you need. You need

921
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: to have these games in those fields. All right, when

922
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: we come back our number two, we've got the cornerback

923
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: position preview at two o'clock, we have got the best starters.

924
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: And I said, I stand, um, I think listen, you

925
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: heard him say it. You heard to near saying he said,

926
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: they've got my homes Kelsey Chris Jones, and you read

927
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: and you read is not a starter. He doesn't get

928
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: to counting that, he said, And then Eagles have everybody else.

929
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't know who else they can put in there,

930
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: unless they put the punter who was like an all

931
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: pro Tommy Townsend was an all pro hunter. I mean,

932
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: give me a break. What are we doing here? All right?

933
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: So that's all coming up our number two, as well

934
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: as Omar Ruiz who's embedded with the Eagles for Super

935
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty seven, Coming your way on Clean Brown's Daily

936
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: brought to you by Baally Bet Coming soon to Ohio.

937
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by Baally Bet, Coming

938
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland, Third Gown

939
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: in Gold. They toss up left side dead ra Carter

940
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: Peter got wrapped up in backdown. Great play by Craig

941
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: new near side luck getting chased the ball is yet

942
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: I sucked that gets up wards, got it. He cut

943
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: right in the lap of the defender and gets up wards,

944
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: got the pick. That's a great relationship. I mean, he's

945
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: learning from me. I'm learning from him and all those guys.

946
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Gret He's he's right there, he's at that level. I

947
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: think he's taken that next step to be elite defender

948
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: in this league. Rowing across the battle and it's intercepted

949
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: at the ted yard line. The Brands steal the ball.

950
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: It's gets out Ward. Wanna play by Ted zel Ward?

951
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Has he chipped the road? It's amazing. Um, he's one

952
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: of the top corners and in still so obviously having

953
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: a talent like that on the field is always gonna

954
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: make everyone's job a lot easier. Takes the snaff and

955
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: he's back and he's looking near side and he's throwing

956
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: and it's up in the air and it's tipped off.

957
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: The props come up with it on the pack. It's

958
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: getzel Ward. He's got it, turns whips it left and

959
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: it's chip dead, pecked off, intercepted down the sideline. The

960
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: props cut it tell the left side. By thirty five.

961
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: It's take J. Green. He's in the forty thirty five

962
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: thirty twenty five down on the twenty yard line. The

963
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: tip drew Hey J Green got it, Look King, he's

964
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna get hit knocked down. The rookie m Jay Everson

965
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: out of the secondary comes into the backfield and sacks Jackson.

966
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: I feel like my size. It plays a big road.

967
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: You know my style to play obviously, my big cornisl

968
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: you know I play felsic cool. Be more patiently. I

969
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: get my you know you've my leave to get hands

970
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: on guys. I just use my soide to my benis

971
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna thrown. He's back. He throws. It's so good

972
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: they missed it bucking up by f Jerry Emerson. He

973
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 1: laterals it back. Chuckle. There they're at the five. They're

974
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: gonna glateral it back again. It's gonna be recovered in

975
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: the inside. Alright, touchdown recovered by gets award. The Props

976
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: are winners. They just beating the Steelers. Yeah, I think

977
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: we definitely have the talents being a playoffs and compete

978
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: in concern for that. Uh I said, we fell short

979
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: this year and we just got a final way to

980
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: come back stronger next year. Al Right. That is a

981
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: Listen to the great Jim Donovan talking about the Browns cornerbacks,

982
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: and you are here our number two Clum Browns Daily

983
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: brought you by Bally back coming soon to Ohio. So

984
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: here's kind of where things stand for the Browns quarterbacks.

985
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: Your top three are all back, but but it's not

986
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: quite that simple, I would say, And it makes me wonder.

987
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: This is just pure reckless speculation, not even really respect

988
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: it is. It's not founded on anything. But it just

989
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: makes you wonder a little bit about how this cornerback

990
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: room looks evolves going forward. What do I mean by that?

991
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: You've got Denzel Ward, who signed the five year extension

992
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: in last April. Uh. He is with the team through.

993
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: He had three interceptions, matching his career high last year.

994
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Fifteen passes defense in fourteen games, a couple of fumble recovery,

995
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. Forty two tackles as well, was near

996
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: his career high in that respect. Also, so a very

997
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: good season. Denzel Ward, the Warden. He is an excellent

998
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: outside corner. You got Greg Newsom, our first round picked

999
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: from one year ago. Forty one solo tackles, he had

1000
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: half a sack, sixes passes defense. He's a great tackler,

1001
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: especially in the run game. He plays that very well.

1002
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: But no interceptions now in two career seasons. He has

1003
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: not gone an interception in two career seasons with the Browns,

1004
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: but still played very well. But here's the thing. He

1005
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: struggled a little bit in the slot. He was excellent outside,

1006
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: so he really is at his core and outside corner,

1007
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: as is m j Emerson, the Browns rookie third rounder

1008
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: who had a great rookie season. Fifty one solo tackles,

1009
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: He had a sack. He had fifteen passes defense, tied

1010
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: for the team lead last year, which was third among

1011
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: all rookies. Only Sauce Gardner and Turek Wohlan, both of

1012
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: them who went to the Pro Bowl, had more passes

1013
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: defense as a rookie than m j Emerson did last season.

1014
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: He was frankly, very very good and for the Browns

1015
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: when you go and you look and so those are

1016
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: kind of the raw numbers, but when you look at

1017
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, take a Pro Football Focus approach to it

1018
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: and a look at it and you say to yourself, Okay,

1019
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: how do we how do we stack up here? Last

1020
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: year the Browns had three three all three including Greedy Williams,

1021
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: who had a miserable season this year. But the Browns

1022
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: had three corners all in the top thirty grades of

1023
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, Greg Knewsome, Denzel Ward, and Greedy Williams.

1024
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams last year had two picks and ten pass breakups.

1025
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams this year ended up ultimately getting benched and

1026
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: following completely out of the rotation. He had six tackles

1027
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: and eleven games when targeted in coverage, he gave up

1028
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback rating of one fifty eight point three, which

1029
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: was the highest you could possibly give up. There was

1030
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: a perfect quarterback rating. So for the Browns, M J.

1031
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: Emerson was actually your highest graded apt Pro Football Focus.

1032
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: Seventy two point five was his grade there, which is

1033
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: a very solid grade. As the corner, he was our

1034
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: number one graded corner in coverage. Emerson gave up fifty

1035
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: three percent completions eighty five rating, so those were both

1036
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: also the best on the team. Greg Knew some sixty

1037
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: two percent completions eighty nine rating in coverage. He graded

1038
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: out at sixty nine point one. His coverage grade was

1039
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: seventy two point three. Emerson's was seventy five point one.

1040
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: Then you get Denzel Ward who had statistically some good

1041
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: things this season, but he was only a fifth six

1042
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: point eight sixty in coverage. He gave up sixty completions

1043
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: eighty five point six rating in coverage, which was thanks

1044
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: to those three interceptions. Remember the rating for Emerson eighty

1045
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: five point six and new eighty nine point two. They

1046
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: don't have the benefit of interceptions affecting that quarterback rating.

1047
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: Denzel had three of them. But Denzel also gave up

1048
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: three touchdowns on the season, so he had a good year.

1049
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: He didn't have a great year. Emerson was a pleasant surprise,

1050
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: but Emerson is strictly an outside corner. What the Browns

1051
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: really have right now are three outside corners and so begs.

1052
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: The question is, does Andrew Berry potentially explore a move

1053
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: here to move one of the outside corners for maybe

1054
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: a receiver, and then you sign in free agency a

1055
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: slot corner, which is cheaper than what you're doing on

1056
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: the outside. It feels like Greedy Williams that might have

1057
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: been his last season with the Cleveland Browns. That injury,

1058
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, really robbed him. I think of what was

1059
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: promising you. Carl though two years ago coming back from

1060
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: the injury, was very good. Last year he was not

1061
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: a j Green. He had an interception this year. He

1062
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: had an interception in the year before. Was the last

1063
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: person intercepted Ben Roethlisberger. He could say on the Browns,

1064
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: you know I've intercepted Roethlisberger. I've intercepted Joe Burrow. UM.

1065
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: I like a J. Green. They tried to give him

1066
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: some inside outside, he's better suited outside. He's a little

1067
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: bit slow for a slot, but he's a big slot.

1068
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: He has good instincts. He's an exclusive rights free agents

1069
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: because he started cursy U d f A. I think

1070
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: that he'll be back with the Browns. I think they

1071
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: like a J. Green good on special teams as well.

1072
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: And then Thomas Graham, somebody they signed the middle of season.

1073
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: I thought played well the game he had to come

1074
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: in and play the slot against Tampa UM and looked

1075
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: pretty good. So he's somebody I would expect, you know,

1076
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: could be back as well. He's also an exclusive rights

1077
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: free agent. UM, what do you do? Greg? I know

1078
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: wants to play outside. He's willing to do whatever to

1079
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: help the team. But you have three guys who are

1080
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: best at out the outside, and you don't you can

1081
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: and play two outside on any given a. UM. You know,

1082
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: like Troy Hill actually played a very valuable role for

1083
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: the Browns being that slock corner before we gave him

1084
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: up in the money. Mitch before him was had inside

1085
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: outside versatility. UM, but it's just a weird thing here

1086
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: with you know, because if you're Greg, just from his

1087
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: selfish standpoint, I think he is better when he's outside.

1088
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: And I've heard that from a you know, a lot

1089
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: of people in our building as well as around the league,

1090
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: that he's better outside. He's coming up now, you know,

1091
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: towards the end of his rookie contract. He's half way

1092
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: done with it. He's gonna want to get paid like

1093
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: an outside corner. M j Emerson can only play outside,

1094
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: and Denzel has never really kind of shown the willingness

1095
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: to go inside and take on the run support roles

1096
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: that that requires. Uh and he likes to be outside

1097
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: and he's kind of the franchise. So I don't know

1098
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: how they go about this next year. Well, I mean,

1099
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: I think it falls on Jim Schwartz to make the

1100
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: evaluations and decide who who gives me the best chance

1101
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: to get this done successfully. Well, they're all starting corners,

1102
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: and I mean it's correct, but you gotta pick two

1103
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: to be outside, right, Well, what you can do is

1104
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: do what they did last year with Greg. But I

1105
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: think that that's tough on him. I'll be honest, I

1106
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: think it's tough to ask somebody to play outside half

1107
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: the game and then inside half the game, just to

1108
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: kind of break things down for you. So if you're

1109
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: looking at you know, guys who played at least fifty

1110
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: of the snaps last year. In terms of coverage grade

1111
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. M j Emerson was number eighteen. That's

1112
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: a number one starting corner. Greg Newsome was number twenty three.

1113
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: He had a good season, much better than I think

1114
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: people will give him credit for. Now. Denzel Ward didn't

1115
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: land on the top fifty, So I'm not saying that

1116
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward is in the top fifty. Quarry actually is

1117
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: number fifty. He tied with Roger McCreery and Benjamin st

1118
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: Ju just below Troy Hill. But I mean people with

1119
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: its Sace Gardener Path, certain Jist, Alexander Gilmore, Tyson Campbell,

1120
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: Pat Pete, Bradberry, Slay Ramsey, dj Read, Lagarius sneez To,

1121
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: various Ward of Sante, Samuel, Trent McDuffie, Jamal Dean, Marlon Humphrey,

1122
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller, M j Emerson, and then Michael Davis, Terrik

1123
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: wool and J. C. Horne, Tron Johnson with Buffalo, then

1124
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 1: Greg Newsome like those guys are in good company. I mean,

1125
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: with the exception McDuffie, who was a rookie. UM, those

1126
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: are all names. Those are all pretty household d names

1127
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position. Maybe without the exception of McDuffie

1128
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: and Michael Davis of the Chargers. So they actually played well.

1129
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: Our young corners played well last year. I do think

1130
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: you have something to look at though, because of the

1131
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: effectiveness you know, in terms of what you did in

1132
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: the slot with Greg Newsome versus what you did outside

1133
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: of the slot. And so to give kind of a

1134
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a dive on that right now, if

1135
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: you go and you look at slot performance UM an

1136
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: NFL rating allowed when you're in the slot compared to

1137
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: outside of the slot, Newsome was actually better outside of

1138
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: the slot than he was in the slot. In the

1139
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: slot last year, great Newsom gave up a much higher

1140
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: completion percentage that's not a typical, and gave up a

1141
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: much higher quarterback rating in the slot than outside of

1142
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: the slot. And so you want him where he excels, right,

1143
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: You want him to be where he feels like he

1144
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: can play at the highest level, and that is outside.

1145
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: But that's where m j Emerson is and that's where

1146
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward is. So I think there is a real

1147
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: interesting decision to make here if they want to switch

1148
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: the personnel. And now you could always want to have

1149
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: three great outside corners because you're gonna need him at

1150
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: some point, especially with Denzel's injury history. So maybe they

1151
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: do nothing, but that's something that I would would just monitor,

1152
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: and that's something that we can talk with Jim Schwartz

1153
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: about as well. We're gonna have him on the show tomorrow.

1154
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: Is how do you deal with that when you have

1155
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: three guys who are best outside? Do you want a

1156
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: true slot? Do you want a true nickel? And you know,

1157
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: how do you worry about that that kind of playing time?

1158
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a it's a it's a it's a

1159
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: tougher situation than it should be than when you think, man,

1160
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: we have three really good corners. Well, and the issue

1161
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: is with Newsome. I think that unfortunately Denzel missed more

1162
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: games again this year. Yeah, I mean he does every year.

1163
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: He played in fourteen games, but really he played in thirteen. Yeah,

1164
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: they can't count the Steelers. Yeah, I mean he got

1165
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: he was dinged up going in and you know, hard

1166
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: hit and was out I mean that's that's missing again

1167
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: four games, and that forces you to take Newsome back

1168
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: out of the slot and put him outside. But that's

1169
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: where he would want to be correct. But when you're

1170
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: working so hard on one on one position to then

1171
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: have to revert back and and to go back and fourth,

1172
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: that's asking a lot and I don't know if that's

1173
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: necessarily fair to do. No. Anyononder just says that at

1174
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: an effect, and I think he's played very well. I mean,

1175
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: you look at his his two years in the league.

1176
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: You know, Greg Newsome is a darn good player in

1177
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: terms of his grades, you know, from his rookie or

1178
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: he got better in coverage and his overall grade from

1179
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: his rookieyear to his second year. He's he's a very

1180
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: good player. And the Browns just need to figure out,

1181
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,439
Speaker 1: you know, is there is there a move that makes

1182
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: sense if they are to make a move, and if not,

1183
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: how do we make this work when we have three

1184
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: talented guys. Now that's obviously, say coach Jim Schwartz, like,

1185
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: give me all the talent, I'll figure out how to

1186
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: make it work. That's what the Browns, I think, on

1187
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: some level need to try to figure out here. What

1188
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: can they do to get all those three guys on

1189
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: the field. Think A J. Green comes back. I think

1190
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: Graham's gonna come back. I think greedy Williams uh at

1191
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: this point won't, although he could be cheap and you

1192
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: could say, we still believe in your talent. You know

1193
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get a big free agent contract. Come

1194
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: on back. So we'll see what happens there, all right, depth,

1195
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: what's your concern on the up? We don't have a

1196
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: backup slot right now, unless Thomas Graham, you know, they

1197
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: like him enough to say he's the backup slot. You

1198
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: don't have a backup nickel. And I think that's that's

1199
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern right now. I mean,

1200
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a position you definitely have to

1201
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: address either maybe not at the top of free agency,

1202
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: but you know that after that first tier of guys

1203
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: is off the board, maybe something you look at and

1204
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: definitely somewhere that you have to look at come draft time.

1205
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: I think as well, with one of those picks, no doubt, Uh,

1206
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: bigger surprise Greg Knewsom the second not getting an I

1207
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: n T this year, or the play of m J Emerson. Uh,

1208
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean to get m j Emerson to play the

1209
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: way he did, which I think, honestly, if there was

1210
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: a redraft of the draft right now, I think that

1211
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: he would have gone as a first round pick. So

1212
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: that's more surprising. Interceptions Gregg had a chance to get

1213
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: two of them. He did that he didn't catch um.

1214
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: I think m J had a chance. It interception sometimes

1215
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: their luck. I think they both played well. It's just

1216
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: how do you you know? Ball production is important, but

1217
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: good coverage, good tackling, all those things are more important.

1218
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: Ball production will come with that. Interceptions are not a

1219
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: year to year predictable, reliable thing. You would like to

1220
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: see them come away with one or two, you know,

1221
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: over the course of the season. But I think they

1222
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: get m j Emerson to play like a first or

1223
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: certainly an early second round pick was a wonderful thing

1224
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: if you're the Cleveland Browns, and I think that was

1225
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: a great, very very pleasant surprise. All right, to look

1226
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: at our cornerbacks right there, when we come back, we're

1227
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna take a look at the starters ranking. I'm I'm listen.

1228
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: It should be seven out of the top ten, at

1229
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: most four out of the top and then after all, right, well,

1230
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,160
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1240
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: not even gonna look at it right now. I'm gonna see.

1241
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: Let's see Mahomes one, Kelsey too, m hm, tophoons to

1242
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: see what we can do here? Lane Kelsey, brother, it's

1243
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: the center, all right. This is my my top all

1244
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: top eight. Mahomes one correct, Kelsey too, Yes, Jalen Hurts three, No, okay,

1245
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, He's number three, Chris Jones three. So the

1246
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs have the top three. Now it should be all Eagles,

1247
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: so Reddick Cox, Lane Johnson, Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey is

1248
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: number four, Lane Johnson number five. Al Right, so I'm

1249
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: good at this. So Jalen Hurts number six, Okay, listed

1250
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: all those people? All right? Reddick's Cox? What about Bradberry

1251
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: and Slay? Uh not in the top ten either? Neither? Wow?

1252
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: What about Reddick? Uh? Number seven? Is the one chief

1253
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: that you miss? Uh? Creed Humphrey. I said it if

1254
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: it would be four Creed hump they had four, it

1255
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: would be Creed Humphrey. No, I thought you think? I

1256
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: think you said the punter. No. Earlier I said they'd

1257
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: have three, or they didn't have three. Creed Humphrey would

1258
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: make it into the fourth third center. So he that's

1259
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: the only one. Humphrey is seven, okay? A. J. Brown

1260
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: is eight, A J. Sure Hassan. Reddick is number nine.

1261
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: Joe Dooney, come on, it's ridiculous. Chiefs guard number ten

1262
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: over Fletcher Cox, over Bradberry, over Slish Bradberry Lay is twelve. T. J.

1263
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: Edwards is eleven, the middle linebacker for the Eagles. What

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Speaker 1: about Fletcher Cox? Standby? What about Davante Smith? DeVante Smith

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: is fifteen? Okay? Uh? Where Sneet is sixteen? Did I

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: miss him? Who was six? Was he sixth? No? Just

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts hurts his six though, Yeah, one, two, three,

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01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: sun Reddick four, five, six, eight, and he's not even up.

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01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: He's not in the top sixteen. Hold on, that's wild.

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 1: So they have five and five in the top ten.

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01:06:53,480 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, that's absurd. Now eleven twelve, who's fourteen? Jordan's

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01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: my Latta from the Eagles? Eagles? Okay, so the Eagles

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01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: have eleven twelve, thirteen, fourteen and fifteen. Fletcher Cox? What

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01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: he isn't the player he used to be, not even close.

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01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: But he's still capable of playing well, it's for spurts.

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01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: Didn't he have double digit sacks? They say he had

1277
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: the worst worst season this year, but is he is

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: still more than capable of pushing the pocket. I'm fairly

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01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: confident he's better than a number of the other guys

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01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: that you that you're trying out here in this article.

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: Let's just like a real quick, real quick, Fletcher Cox.

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: So Lugarius Sneeze fourteen quarterback hits. He had seven sacks,

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01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: so he wasn't one of the four. Oh, Javon Hargrave.

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: Where's Javon Hargrave? Stand by one? What Trey Smith was twenty?

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01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: Who chiefs guard? Dallas. Guy, it is nineteen? Where C J.

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: Gardener Johnson rank Clark is eighteen? Or c J. Gardner Johnson.

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: Where's Miles Sanders hold on? Miles Sanders is seven? Wow?

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Uh Chauncey Gardner Johnson. The Eagles team is just so

1289
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: talented it's it's kind of wild. I yeah, our grave

1290
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: had sixty tackles, eleven sacks, sixteen quarterback kids, ten tackles

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01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: for last. Where's Josh Sweat? Josh went out eleven sacks,

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: fifteen tackles for last, twenty three quarterback kids? He had

1293
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: an interception? Juju was twenty nine? How could Juju be

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01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: twenty nine ahead of Fletcher Cox? Where's Josh Sweat on

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: that list? I don't even have a list? So I

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01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: really get this is a free agent thing. And this

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01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: is where does Jalen Hurts ranking the Super Bowl quarterbacks?

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: That was it? Oh? Yeah, here doesn't ringing on the

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01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: back of it say, I wasn't even looking. Wait where

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01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: what were you dash? So the Eagles have eleven twelve

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen, So out of the top seventeen they have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: They have eleven to six in the top seventeen because

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01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: the Eagles rosters loaded. They're loaded. Yeah, how low is

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01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: in Dominican sue. He's not a starter, right, or it's

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01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: every yet it's just a starter, so he won't make

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: it in there. I mean, the fact of the matter

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: is Joe Tuney should be lower than he is. That's

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: outrageous to have him ten. It's a it's it's outrageous, alright,

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01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: Cree dum Free, I said that's I I have that right.

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: But it's three. They have the top three. And if

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01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: you add from from payers four to seventeen, it's eleven

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: to three. Eagles from players four to seventeen, eleven to three.

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Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: that loaded roster with Omar Ruiz he is embedded with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles down in Arizona. I want to know what that.

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01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: I like that word embedded, But what does that actually

1317
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: mean for Omar? Does that mean he goes every meeting?

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01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: What's he actually doing with the Eagles? Well, I mean embedded, meads,

1319
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: he's in the hotel. Your assignment is your I'm covering

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Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of Let gonna get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of this embedment. Al right, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: Omar Ruiz joins the show. Here on Clean Browns Dailey,

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Speaker 1: All right, we go back to the hot line and

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Speaker 1: we are joined by NFL Networks Omar Ruiz via the

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Speaker 1: Twisted Tea hot Line, brought to you by Twisted t

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Speaker 1: hard Iced Tea and official sponsor to the Cleveland Browns.

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Omar is embedded with the Eagles

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01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: for Super Bowl fifty seven and Omar, when I hear that,

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01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,440
Speaker 1: it just sounds so fancy and hip, Luton and also mysterious.

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01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: What does it mean to be embedded with the Eagles. Well,

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01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: it's a fun team to be around. Uh. I have

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01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: a lot of affection for the Eagles fan base actually,

1340
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 1: I was comparing it to the Browns fan base recently

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01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: and just that they're just so passionate. Yeah, you're in

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: and you're out. There's a lot of passionate fan bases

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01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: out there, um, but there are a few that even

1344
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: when they're lousy, they continue to make the team relevant.

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01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's fan bases that are that

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: are equally loud and proud, you know, when things are good,

1347
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: when things aren't good, they'll let you know. And I

1348
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: think that's the commonality that that the Eagles and the

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01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: Browns have and you know some of the other great

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: fan bases uh in the country. So it's number one.

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: It's great to be a part of it. The personalities

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01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: in that locker room, you know, having covered that Super

1353
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two run they made a few years ago,

1354
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: and and some of those key players still around and

1355
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Lane Johnson and Plectric Cox and brand Ram,

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: those guys are you know, just just fun players to

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01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: be around. They they you know, wear their personalities on

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: their sleeve. And the emerging players like Jalen Hurst that

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01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: we've seen over the last couple of years. It's a

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01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: it's a fun team to be around. So cool atmosphere

1361
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: here in Arizona. Glad to be back at Super Bowl

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: kind of in a more normal setting with you know,

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01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: international media here and and the craziness. So so it's

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01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun so far. And and we're

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: barely half way home here. Yeah, and Omar you mentioned

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01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: it is a fun team. But this is kind of

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01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: in some ways a historic matchup. You know, Andy Reid

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: once took this Eagles team to the Super Bowl. Now

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01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: he's a coach on the other side. Has there been

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Speaker 1: is that something that is obviously I would imagine players

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01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: because many of these guys never played for Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: would be discussed internally. But is that something that's kind

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01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: of not lost on the Eagles organization that this is

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you know against the Eagles. Yeah, there's a

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 1: lot of you know, obviously nostalgia there when they talked

1376
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: about Andy Read a lot of great affection for Andy Reid.

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01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things I thought was interesting,

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: um early in the week when I had a chance

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01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: to talk to coach Read on Monday night at Opening Night,

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: was you know, the common thread he had with the

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,879
Speaker 1: Kelsey brothers and that you know, Travis and Jason Kelsey.

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: You know, that storyline is you know, one of the

1383
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: biggest in the Super Bowl. You just you just let off,

1384
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, ask him about Andy Reid going against Philadelphia.

1385
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest storylines in the Super Bowl.

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: But the fact that he drafted Jason Inn as a

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: member of the Eagles and in the fantastic career that

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey has had, you know, potential Hall of Famer,

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01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: and then it was to Kansas City after being let go,

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: and and you know, he he threw Jason. He knew

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: about Travis and even got to meet Travis in November

1392
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: of twelve, but he was still coaching the Eagles. Jason

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01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: went to Philly. Uh, you know, they're in town already.

1394
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was playing Temple College matchup. Andy Reid's kids were

1395
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: playing at Temple, so they all met and hang out.

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: And of course a few months later then Andy Reid

1397
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: would draft Travis Kelsey into the NFL. So that commonality

1398
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: there is just so cool. And Andy Reid's imprints, you know,

1399
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: still on the organization and and I think it's just

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01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, like you mentioned, most of the players

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01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: never played for Andy Reid. But but it is one

1402
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: of those cool fit factors when you talk about this

1403
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and one of the ones that's deservingly getting

1404
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. One of the storylines that I

1405
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 1: think is getting too much attention, in my opinion, is

1406
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: that the Eagles didn't play anybody to get here. They're

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: good and they smoked a lot of people that you

1408
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: would say, all right, if they're if they're that good,

1409
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: they should smoke these teams. Well, they did thirty eight

1410
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: to seven over the Giants, thirty one to seven over

1411
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: the Niners. You go back into the season, some of

1412
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: the big games that they had, they were able to,

1413
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, come out on top and put beatings on teams. Know,

1414
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: what is that give them? I would imagine something they're

1415
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna used to be like a little chip on their shoulder, right,

1416
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: is that nobody believes in us? They're saying it was

1417
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: so easy, and even you know, some of the forty

1418
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: Niners and I'm a night I grew up in the

1419
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: Bay Area. I'm a Niners guy. Some sour grapes right

1420
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: there right from the Niners. That didn't work out. Obviously,

1421
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: was an unfortunate way that game unfolded, But that's football.

1422
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: It happens. Uh. Is that is that something that's kind

1423
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: of a rallying cry for this Eagles team? Yeah, no

1424
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: question about it. And I think you know, publicly, they're

1425
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: probably a little more mature than you know to to

1426
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: say that. Um, but yeah, you can tell that, you know,

1427
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: they are a highly motivated group and you know, you know,

1428
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: maybe use the chip on their shoulder internally. But but

1429
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: to your point, I think the Eagles are a fantastic team.

1430
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: And I just remember early on covering them. I covered

1431
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: them Week three in Washington. It was a game where

1432
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: they had nine sacks on Carson Wentz and just completely dominant.

1433
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: I think they're up twenty nothing at the half or

1434
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, something along those lines. And that was the

1435
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: week after they just smoked Minnesota on Monday Night football

1436
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: in Philly. And and that was a week after Minnesota

1437
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: had dominated UM Green Day in Week one, so everybody

1438
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: was thinking, okay, well Minnesota is gonna be for real

1439
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: this year. And and in Philly completely completely humiliates them. Well,

1440
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: they had some injury bad luck, like every team in

1441
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: the NFL does. Um, they stumbled down the stretch with

1442
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, and I think we forget about how loaded

1443
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: they were in that middle run when it's sort of

1444
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, the dog days in the NFL season. But

1445
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: but they are as talented as anybody in in the NFL.

1446
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: I think they're more talented top to bottom in Kansas City.

1447
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously Mahomes is the ultimate difference maker.

1448
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: But but that Philadelphia roster is loaded, and they have

1449
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: all twenty two starters that will be um that they

1450
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: started a season. Within week one, they'll be at the disposal.

1451
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: They're in the super Bowl and and there's no shortage

1452
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: of motivation there. And it's so funny, Nathan knew, You've

1453
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: you've been around the NFL such a long time now

1454
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: you know that you know, even uh, you know, Patrick

1455
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,799
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Tom Brady, they find chips on their shoulder

1456
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,440
Speaker 1: and and of disrespect as good as they've been. And

1457
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: and that's one of the ones that the Eagles I'm

1458
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: sure have heard about. And we'll try to remind people,

1459
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: uh not to take them lightly here on Sunday, Yeah,

1460
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, even the great Michael Jordan and

1461
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: basketball was still airing grievances and his Hall of Fame

1462
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: induction speech and he was still calling people out that

1463
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: had slided him throughout his career. Let's talk about this

1464
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: well real quick. Just to your point though, for for

1465
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: you know that narrative that is out there. They didn't

1466
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: play anybody. I think you hit it on the button though,

1467
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: But then they dominated those games. You know, in the

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Speaker 1: NFL there's such a thin line, and and we've talked

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01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: about parity, you know, the way it's structured nowadays, and

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01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: everything is supposed to be closed and these teams supposed

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: to be tied together. Well, they did blow people out

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: and and absolutely dominate. Um even if you know the

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: team was a quote unquote to you know, losing team.

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01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: So um so yeah. So I think the Eagles are

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01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: for real and they'll they'll show up to play on Sunday,

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: no no doubt in my mind. Talk with Omaruuise covering

1477
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: the Eagles for NFL Network. As we get readier for

1478
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: the super let'start on the offensive side of the ball,

1479
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: that great offensive line. But all eyes in this game,

1480
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: fairly or perhaps even unfairly, are gonna be on Jalen Hurts,

1481
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts a phenomenal season, throwing it twenty two touchdowns,

1482
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: six completions. Great, you're running it over seven hundred yards,

1483
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: thirteen scores on the ground. They only lost one game

1484
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: with him fourteen and one with him as a starter

1485
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: to take the playoff games. Now sixteen and one with

1486
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, what's kind of been his mindset, his mentality.

1487
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: Obviously a tremendous leader, but this is the biggest game

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01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: of his, you know, career, and in many ways a

1489
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: lot of people are looking at it as somewhat of

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01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: a referendum on him, not just the Eagles. Yeah, I

1491
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 1: think that's one of the key matches. I think Number

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01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: one for me is the Eagle's pass rush against Patent Mahomes.

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: And I think number two is is this one Jalen

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01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: Hurts versus that Kansas City defense and and specifically that

1495
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: young secondary because you know, we've seen throughout the year

1496
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: and and Sjalen Hurts, you know, I think he struck

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01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: a balance where he is not afraid to throw in

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01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: the tight windows and he trusts his receivers A J. Brown,

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01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: Davante Smith to make those plays. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: when you do that, you give the defense an opportunity

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: to make a play on the ball. In their own

1502
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 1: right and and perhaps you know, go the turnover route,

1503
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: and so you know, I think that will be the key.

1504
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: You know, can the Chiefs make plays on the ball

1505
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: unlike most teams have done this year in the NFL

1506
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: against the Eagles and Jalen Hurst certainly has taken care

1507
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: of the ball in addition to all those fantastic numbers,

1508
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: and and obviously his his ability to run, you know,

1509
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: puts defenses at Bay as well. But but yeah, you know,

1510
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: can those young Kansas City Chiefs who who who stepped up?

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01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, they were banged up against Joe Burrows that

1512
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: second half of the Bengals and they stepped up to

1513
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: their credit. Um, you know, was that an anomaly? And

1514
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: can they do it again against Jalen Hurts? I think

1515
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 1: that will be one of the key. The key matchups

1516
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 1: to watch on Sunday is Miles Sanders, the most overlooked

1517
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: back with eleven touchdowns in five yards to carry in

1518
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: recent memory, I would say yeah, because you know, I still,

1519
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: even for me, you know, covering this team, you know,

1520
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: as closely as I have, I still think of them

1521
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: as a running back like committee type of thing, because

1522
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: you know, Boston Scott and Kenneth Gaine. Well, they make

1523
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: such large contributions through the team, and that's a credit

1524
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: to you know, the running backs coach Jamal Singleton does

1525
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: a great job there, their opensive coordinator Shane Styke, and

1526
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. Just the complete buying that they all have.

1527
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: That yes, Miles Sanders is you know, the sort of

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01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: star there. Um doesn't get enough credit. And and really

1529
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: ever since his rookie year, when you know that they

1530
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: started that rebuild, you know, if you want to call

1531
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: it that he he came on the scene, um pretty explosively,

1532
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: and it's been fairly consistent, you know, when he's been

1533
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: healthy and uh and yeah, I think that's a good

1534
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: way to put it. He is overlooked and um. But

1535
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: but you know the sense I get from the Eagles

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01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: team and you can maybe say, there's their players like

1537
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat, who is you know, a great talent a

1538
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: pass rusher, doesn't get enough credit because of all those

1539
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: big names they have, you know, rushing the football. I

1540
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: don't get a sense that they care about that. I

1541
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: mean they and that's the credit to Sirianni. The complete

1542
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: buy in that these guys have and and Uh, you know,

1543
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: they just care about the winds and and let's the

1544
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: credit fall where it may. But it's a special group again.

1545
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: But to your point, Miles Sanders is a tremendous talent

1546
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: and he has got to be yards and Lovett touchdowns

1547
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 1: the most quiet numbers I think in the NFL this season.

1548
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: Seriously talk with Omar Louise covering the Eagles for NFL

1549
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: Network because they get ready for the Super Bowl. In

1550
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: the passing game, it's a J. Brown, it's DeVante Smith,

1551
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: it's Dallas Goddard. It combined for about thirty yards twenty

1552
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: one touchdowns, despite god are missing five games. I mean,

1553
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get. The ball is gonna

1554
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: be in the hands of Sanders. Yes, sure, sometimes Scott

1555
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: and gain Wall will get in there, and when they

1556
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: throw it, it's pretty much going to Goddart, Brown or

1557
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. Uh. It's a loaded offensive, skilled group right there.

1558
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: But how about these past catters and how they challenge

1559
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: as you mentioned that young secondary of the Kansas City Chiefs,

1560
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: and in particular, what a move to get a J.

1561
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: Brown into the folds. Eleven touchdown, seventeen yards of catch. Yeah,

1562
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: what a way to introduce themselves to Philadelphia, and I

1563
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: think you know A. J. Brown and the relationship that

1564
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: he has with Jalen Hurts, you know, one of the key,

1565
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, because the leadership, the intangible, all that was

1566
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,480
Speaker 1: was clearly evident all the way going back to Alabama

1567
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: and how he handled the switch at half time in

1568
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: the National Championship Game and and to a coming on

1569
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: and going to Oklahoma. All of that we knew about

1570
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: from an intangible from a leadership perspective with Jalen Hurts.

1571
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: But the bottom line was, you know, can he play

1572
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: in the NFL at an elite level? And because of A. J. Brown,

1573
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: he's certainly shown that he's capable of it this year

1574
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 1: and and kind of like what you mentioned, you know,

1575
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: a few questions ago, that sort of referendum on him,

1576
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: and you know, can he win the Super Bowl now

1577
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: and the biggest game? And it will come down to,

1578
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, does A J. Brown? Does Davonte Smith? Can

1579
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: they make those plays that they've made all year long

1580
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 1: in the biggest moments, And you know how tight will

1581
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: those windows be? You know how you know athletic and acrobatic,

1582
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, are they're gonna have to make these catches.

1583
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: How tight will the coverage be? You know from the Chiefs,

1584
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: you know, can they scheme them up to catch and

1585
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: run and get the yacht yards? Are they gonna have

1586
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: to go up and get the ball? A lot of

1587
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: questions there with that that will all go on those

1588
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: past catchers. But you know, I love Dallas Goddard. You

1589
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: mentioned Dallas Goddard, you know against you know, arguably one

1590
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: of the greatest tight ends and in NFL history, and

1591
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. But you know, God, it's like I'm in

1592
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: that group too, man, you know, don't discount me. And

1593
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of confidence, a lot of swagger

1594
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: in that team. You know they're not not necessarily brash

1595
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: or cocky or arrogant, but you know they are full

1596
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 1: of confidence in Dallas Goddard included, well, yeah, you put

1597
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: up over ten yards of target. You're pretty elite. And

1598
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: for a while it was you know, Mark Andrews fell

1599
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: off as the season went over, but it was Kelsey,

1600
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: it was Andrews, and it was Goddard. I mean, especially

1601
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: people who play fantasy football, Dallas Galler was bringing bringing

1602
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: it before he suffered his injury that cost him five

1603
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: games this year. Omar. Before we get out of here,

1604
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: we got to talk about this defense, V and D sacks.

1605
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: It's continued in the playoffs. A Son redick on a tear.

1606
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: Four guys with double digit sacks this season. You know

1607
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: they've got great corners. Gardner Johnson had the six picks.

1608
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: This team is loaded. They're fun to watch. That it's

1609
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: rare that a team is fun to watch play defense,

1610
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: but this Eagle team is fun to watch because of

1611
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: their relentless pursuit of the quarterback and somebody's gonna have

1612
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: a one on one somewhere that there's just the numbers

1613
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: add up to it. Yeah, And I love how they

1614
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: distribute the workload and they try to keep their guys fresh.

1615
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Um Jonathan Gannon defensive coordinator, and and the staff there.

1616
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: They do a great job just keeping the guys coming

1617
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: in waves. And that's what they've pinpointed and be their

1618
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: advantage because theoretically, you know the offensive line is going

1619
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: to play the same five throughout the game. So if

1620
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: you can come in and two or three waves from

1621
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 1: a defensive line to pass rush perspective, then obviously you

1622
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: can wear down the offense. And that's kind of where

1623
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: where they focus and that's where they think their advantages

1624
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: and obviously they've proven that with all those sacked numbers.

1625
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: I think they're five way. They get five on Patrick

1626
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,799
Speaker 1: Mahomes on Sunday, they'll they'll break the Bonded Five Bears

1627
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: record of most backs ever in the season when you

1628
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: factor in the playoffs. But you know, there's a lot

1629
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: of talent there. And you mentioned the forty niner and

1630
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: the sour Grapes a little earlier. You know a lot

1631
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: of people thought, oh, well, you know, they just didn't

1632
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: have the quarterback. And you know, had they had the quarterback,

1633
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: maybe things would have been different. But I'm not so sure.

1634
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: Because that pass rush was coming and they were coming

1635
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: all day long. And obviously nobody roots for injuries. They're

1636
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 1: not trying to hurt the quarterback, but it was because

1637
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: that pass rush is so relentless, as you mentioned, they

1638
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: are so ferocious that the quarterbacks got hurt unfortunately, and um,

1639
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: you know they'll be coming from A Homes and MA

1640
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: Homes obviously, you know, big strong, physical guy you know

1641
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: can make the throws even when he got defenders hanging

1642
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: off of them. So to be an interesting match up

1643
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: at moments can still make those magical plays against that

1644
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: ferocious pass rush. Like I said earlier, I think that's

1645
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, the story of the game. You know,

1646
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: can like that pass rush for the Eagles did in

1647
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty two against Tom Brady late in the game,

1648
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham comes up with the stricks that if they

1649
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: can make that played late in the game on the homes,

1650
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: I think or not, that'll be the difference, you know,

1651
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: because I think it'll be tight all the way throughout

1652
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: and it's you know, whichever defense can come up with

1653
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: the stop at the end will be the difference. It's

1654
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun one. The number one seed in

1655
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: the a f C, the number one seed in the NFC,

1656
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: and neither team is lost with their starting quarterback and

1657
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 1: forever and somebody something's got to give the irresistible force men,

1658
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: the immovable object, Omar, have a great time down there

1659
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: in the Valley of the Sun, and uh enjoy the

1660
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl on Sunday. All right, Thank you, Nathan. Great

1661
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: to talk to you as always, man likewise man, always

1662
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: a pleasure. The great Omar Ruiz again he was brought

1663
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: to us by the via the twisted t hard I

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01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: s hotline and official sponsor of the Cleveland Browns, Keep

1665
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: It Twisted Cleveland. Final thoughts when we come back, but

1666
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: actually so much more to come here on Cleveon Brown's

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Speaker 1: ONESPN Cleveland. Alright, folks, we inch closer to the super Bowl.

1670
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: Only two more shows to go, GiB before the last.

1671
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: The season starting to pick up a little pace. We're

1672
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 1: picking up some pace, no doubt about it. Uh. Speaking

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01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: of tomorrow, Tomorrow, Big Day. First, Rod will be joining

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01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: us from Arizona. We'll do some prop bets. He will

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Speaker 1: be live down there at super Bowl. He'll join us.

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Speaker 1: And then two o'clock two pm, Set your set your alarms.

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Speaker 1: Two pm tomorrow live in studio, in studio, in studio,

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, Brown's defensive cordier will make his c b

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Speaker 1: D debut. Hey, tomorrow, we'll talk about Roger Goodell saying

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Speaker 1: the reality is our officials. H Uh, officiating has never

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Speaker 1: been better. H I throw If I had a red

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Speaker 1: flag to throw, I would throw it. On that statement.

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Speaker 1: I would challenge that statement made by Roger Goodell. I

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Speaker 1: think the officiating has been dreadful and they just we

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Speaker 1: gotta get them full time. They've got to clean this up.

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Speaker 1: Too much is at stake, especially now with all the gamble.

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Speaker 1: There's just so much at stake with the officiate, and

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Speaker 1: get the calls right. You've got all the cameras, got

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Speaker 1: all the angles. Let's get all this stuff right. Jim

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Speaker 1: Schwartz tomorrow, Gerard Cherry tomorrow. For Gibe, I'm Nathan Tzagura

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Speaker 1: saying thanks for listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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