1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Well, now it's time for our daily Bloombergy Law Brief, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news. And Today Bloomberg Lahost 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Jun Grosso and Michael Best discussed the Trump administration's opposition 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: to efforts to band workplace discrimination against gay and lesbian employees. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: They speak with Michael selm Your, professor at George Washington 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: University Law School, and Anthony christ a professor at Chicago 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Kent College of Law. Michael, let's start with the basics. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: What is the issue facing the second Circuit under Title seven? 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: The issue, which is one that has been coming up 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: in a series of cases recently, is whether Title seven, 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: the primary statute that governs discrimination in the workplace and 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: prohibit discrimination based on race and gender, Nashal origin, religion. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: The question is whether that statute, the prohibition on discrimination 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: based on sex discrimination extends to prohibition on discrimination based 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: on sexual orientation. And there has been two recent Court 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: of Appeals decisions and they have been split, and then 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: this second Circuit case is the most recent and becoming 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: the most prominent of those cases. Anthony, You know, in 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the past of courts a generally ruled, hadn't they that 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: that in fact, sexual orientation was not protected by this law, 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: and that was because they said that Congress hadn't intended 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: to cover it. Why have things changed, Well, I think 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: a number of things have changed. So of course, there's 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: a landmark decision plorality decision from the Supreme Court called 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Price Waterhouse, which basically said that people who don't conform 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: to gender norms and gender stereotypes have an actional e 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: caause of action or tuttle seven um. And since then, 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: we've had a tremendous, uh, ground swell of change and 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: how we understand sexual orientation and how sex orientation fits 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: within the law, both in constitutional cases and statutory cases. 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: And I think we've come to a better understanding that 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: sex orientation discrimination is uh inexorably linked to sex discrimination. Michael, 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: What is the argument that Justice Department has made? King, 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: But the Dufin Department is making a relatively straightforward argument 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: that employers have been making for some time, uh, and 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: that is that the statue was not intended at the 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: time it was passed in nineteen sixty four to include 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: sexual orientation as one of its prohibitions. Uh. And they 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: also look at some of the statutory language, although that's 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: not as clear cut up an argument for them, but 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: so their their argument is mostly that this is something 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Congress should handle, and Congress has considered over the years 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: but has failed to include as part of Title seven. 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: And that's Michael sell Me, a professor at George Washington 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: University Law School, and Anthony christ a professor at Chicago 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: Kent College of Law, speaking at Bloomberg Law. Host Student 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Grosso and Michael Best. 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