WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 4 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:08.560 It is Monday, October four. This is check Wars Happy Hour. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:15.360 Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.560 now a guy who truly believes, well if the Jets 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:25.840 beat him, Jay Pece Chad n welcome in. It is 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:29.560 Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.560 with you. We've got a busy program ahead of course 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.279 on Monday. That means Pete Brisco and Tony Vasselli right 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.479 around the corner. Brisco, the CBS Sports Senior writer, Tony Vasselli, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.000 Mr Jaguar I guess Irwin Meyer press conference review. The 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.800 head coach spoke today in his normal Monday spot the 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.280 Bengals over the Jaguars recap from Thursday Night Football. The 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.959 Jaguars had the mini by weekend. Over the weekend, We've 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.720 got plenty of social media questions. We'll get to those 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.960 in the second hour and we'll go around the National 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.600 Football League. Let's start today with the biggest news of 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.520 the day. Urban Meyers normally scheduled Monday press conference at 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.800 eleven o'clock this morning. Topic number one in the press 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.160 conference today his explanation of the video and photos that 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:19.200 surfaced on social media over the weekend, I just apologized 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.200 to the team and staff and for being a distraction. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:27.440 Is stupid, and so I explained everything that happened and 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.560 owned it, and you know, just stupid. I should not 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.240 have myself in that kind of position. I stayed to 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.040 see the grand kids, and we all went to dinner 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:40.040 that night at restaurant. And then there's a big group 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.840 next to our restaurant and they wanted me to come 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.480 over and take pictures, and I did, and they're trying 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.520 to pull me out on a dance force, screwing around, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:50.880 and I should have left. Well, I've always been so 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.040 defensive of them, you know. I remember when Trevor told 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.840 me he's gonna go to Vegas for his batchelor party. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:57.800 I mean, I was just my gosh, man, be careful 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.000 and surround yourself. And because I've seen this happen, and 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.080 I just so the team, the team. I spoke to 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.880 a bunch of leaders one on one, spoke to all 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:13.120 the players. They're good, they were focused on Tennessee. And 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:18.480 I apologized again for being a distraction and coaching not 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.400 your distraction. Let's head coach Urban Meyer. Earlier today, Pete 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:26.079 Briscoe Tony BASSELLI joining us now here on Jaguar's Happy Hour, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:30.720 as they do each and every Monday. Tony, good afternoon. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.000 What are your thoughts? J j P. How you doing? Um? 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.200 What are my thoughts? Um? He listened, He addressed it, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.240 He owned it that you know, it was a mistake. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.280 The biggest issue to me is that it is a 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.920 distraction and anything I mean, because coaches harp on players 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.560 all the time, do not be a distraction. Don't be 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.399 the story. UM, don't take away from what the team 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.560 is doing and what we're trying to accomplish. And he didn't. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.359 But you know what, he owned it. He said it 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.120 was a mistake. UM, I'm not gonna die to the 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.919 morality of whatever. You know, that's that could be done 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.440 on another talk show at another time, or if Pete 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.800 wants to dive into that, like he is more than 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.320 welcome to um from the football side of it. Uh, 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.560 you know, I guess the only thing that I wonder is, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.639 you know you're own for not flying home with the team. Now, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.760 if it was part of the policy that any player 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.520 or any coach could stay back after the game and 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.240 not travel home with the team because they're gonna have 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.000 three days off, then great. If that was what the 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.919 team decided, that's that's fine. But I just think it's 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.240 it's just not a great look um, more than anything. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.520 And it goes back to the distraction. But as far 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.600 as I'm concerned, he owned it. He he he apologized 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.720 to apologize the team. UM. I thought it was interesting 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.040 the media asking if he apologized to his family. Again, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.560 that's his business. Um, what he how he deals with 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.480 his family, one way or another. Um, And as far 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.560 as I've deserved it, it should be over. Let's move forward. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.120 I mean, because the bottom line is this team needs 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.640 to focus on winning ball games and they need to 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.200 figure out how to win games because they're going for 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.560 it now and they play a Tennessee type team that's 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.640 gonna come off with top of bad loss and looking 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:14.000 for a winner. Pete Prisco, good afternoon. Yeah. Stupid is 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.400 uh the right word, and he used it a bunch 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.680 and he's approp it's appropriate in that situation. Again, I'm 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.000 with Tony. I'm not getting into the morality of what 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.279 he did and what he didn't do, but uh, you know, look, 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.320 he went to a restaurant that didn't look like a restaurant. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.120 To me, I can tell you that right now, it 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:37.479 looked like Potty said you and whatever he did, that's 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.600 his business. My problem is a lot like what Tony said. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.960 Your team got beat on a last second field goal 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.679 to go to Owen four. It's a gut wrenching loss, 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:49.920 and you don't get on a plane and go home. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.000 And I'm trying to think of instances where I can 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.040 remember a coach not going home. And the reason I 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.960 say that is, okay, maybe if like you stayed behind 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.159 hind you were part of the scouting staff and you 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.440 had a game in Ohio State you wanted to watch, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:09.000 you might stay behind. But you go home with your team, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.919 and you get home with your team and you go 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.960 to work on Friday to start fixing the damn thing. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.120 And now, if you want to spend time with your 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.800 family over the weekend, that's fine, but you do it 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.560 at home. You don't stay in Ohio. And he's out 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.640 and about in a in a pink it looked like 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:31.440 a red Ohio State shirt. It wasn't the Jaguars year. 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.359 It's just it's just a bad look. Forget about what 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.240 was going on. It's a bad look from a football 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.560 coach to be doing that in the middle of the season. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.880 If even if you want to stay and see your grandkids, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.400 you could have saw him the night before the game. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.119 You could have saw him after the game, during the game, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.720 you know, after before the game, when they walk up 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.560 and say, hello, got the whole offseason to see that. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.039 That's that's and it didn't look like there are any 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.520 grandkids in that. He second tell you that right now. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.560 So I just don't like the explanation. I don't like 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.560 the optics of it. Morality wise. That's not for me 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.840 to judge. That's not for Tony to judge. That's for 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.560 other people to judge in his inner circle. But from 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.360 a football standpoint, bad look, bad optics. And oh, by 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.599 the way, what the hell did he brag Trevor Lawrence 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.120 into it? For my god, poor guy, watch out on 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.800 your watch out, on your drip to Vegas for your 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:36.000 bachelor party. Buddy. You can't now now now, no matter 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.960 what anybody does, I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to Vegas. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:47.040 I'm going here. We'll be careful. You can't tell him that, son, don't. Yeah, 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.159 but would you agree? Though he addressed it the only 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.360 way he could his head on. He apologize. I mean, 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.520 I think the story is over now. Now let's hope 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.680 I mean, nothing more comes out, um, but hopefully the 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.799 story is over. You move forward, you look towards Tennessee 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.279 because the one thing you can't allow this is to 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.320 become a distraction. Because this is a football team that 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.800 has lost nineteen straight games, now only four of them 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.400 under Urban, so you can't put the other fifteen on him. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.560 But the last thing you want to do is be 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.440 worrying about stuff that does not matter. Now it might 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.440 matter to him, it might matter his family and everything else, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.640 but it's over. It's in the past. You have to 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.840 move on. And to me, he addressed it, and so 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.960 there should be no more questions. There should be nothing 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.680 else to be taught, nothing else to talk about, and 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.600 it should be all Tennessee moving forward. I mean, I 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.320 guess I'm asking you if you were the beat writer, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.840 you got what you what you needed today is that it? 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.080 Are you done? Is it time to move? Oh? The 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.840 next step is to asked the players what they think 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.360 about it. No, you're not done. There's a story in 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:55.200 the longer room. Your coaches be photographed the day after 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.560 a game in that situation, of course it's not done. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.080 The pro him is there's no more beat work being done. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:03.880 You can't and I feel sorry for the guys. And 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:05.640 that covered the beats in this league now because you 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.360 can't go in the locker room and talk to guys, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 but you can't wait in the parking a lot. And no, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.480 that story is not done. The next part of it, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.360 it's not a big deal. But the next part of 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.400 it is as a football player, when you see your 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.800 coach doing that, what is the reaction to it? And 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.240 nine times out of ten guys will go, oh, we 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:23.960 didn't care. It's done. It's over with. But you might 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:25.360 get two or three guys that say, it was a 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.600 little disturbing to see a guy who's setting policy and 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.080 discipline in this building being undisciplined, Because that's what it was. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.920 It was undisciplined. He was not being disciplined. And could 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.680 you have ever imagine if you guys flew home and 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.839 Tom stayed beyond and you saw videos like that in 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.760 your wildest dreams, it would have never happened. Never, But 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.880 if it had happened. The difference between I give Urban credit. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.880 Urban always hits it head on and tries to make 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.240 it go away. Tom used to let stuff. He'd never 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.320 say anything, and he let it fester to become a 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.720 bigger story as you went throughout the week. You know, 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.840 I'm operated Oh no, he wouldn't say a word about 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.760 He asked a question to get all belligerent, and it 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.200 would never get answered, So the story became bigger and bigger. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.960 Urban to your credit, you're right, Tony, he just said, okay, 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.080 move on, let's go I did it. Let's go on, 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.080 and and that's kind of smart on his part. But again, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:21.360 considering all the baggage that's followed him around, there's a 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.000 pattern there. I mean, there's a big time pattern there. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:26.960 At the top point, you gotta look in the mirror 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.480 and say, what am I doing? You know, you gott 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:34.960 it's just kind of focus on being a football coach. Yeah, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.040 how much of that? That's a great point. I didn't 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.560 think about that. How much has the stories from Florida 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.880 and Ohio State fed into this being a bigger story? 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.040 I mean, twofold one of yourn NFL coach to your 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.600 Urban Meyer, one of the most you know, sought out coaches, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.160 successful football coaches regardless of level in the history of 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.240 the game. You know how much of it was you 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.920 know what has happened in the past where this became 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:05.160 even maybe a bigger story than it wasn't other places. Yeah, probably, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.720 you know. And here's the other thing. If it's and 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.520 Cliff Kingsbury the night after a game, stays behind and 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.440 he's in the club and he's doing it, you might 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:20.200 sit there and say, yeah, okay, that's Cliff Kingsbury. And 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.199 by the way, Cliff Kingsbury is not a married man. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.800 You might say, okay, you still would rip him for 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.240 not taking part in the football side of things though, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:33.719 But this guy I couldn't tell by the video. But 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.840 the poor girl that she was like ninety, I mean, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.960 there's a problem with the whole thing. Yeah, but okay, listen, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.800 I want to stick to the football side of it 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.920 where we started, because I think that's the bigger story. 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.480 But you said by a head coach looking in that 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.839 if the head coach, if you saw, is it a 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.600 bigger story because of his track record? Okay, Cliff Kingsbury 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.600 has a track record of being out and about with models, 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.880 and he's a you know, he's a he's a he's 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.760 playboy in his own way, So it wouldn't be that 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:06.400 biggest story because of who he But but I like, 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.560 but I like your point better though. It would still 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.800 be a big story if it happened after they lost 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.280 four in a row on the road. Everyone else flew 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.680 home and he's setting out in the city that he 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.640 just left having a good time. I think that's my point. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.200 It's a big story because he's an NFL football coach 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.000 of the team, whether you know. I think it's magnified 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.559 when you're not having success. I think it becomes even 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.360 a bigger story. But there's also a pattern of stuff 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.840 going wrong in Jacksonville. I mean, let's be real. You 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.960 have to strength and conditioning coach bad Look, your special 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:45.720 team's coach. Whatever happened there bad Look, Um you got 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.480 you know, the bull horn and everything else that goes on, 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.920 and the players not liking all that stuff, coaches, you know, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.320 not really feeling warm and fuzzy with their head coach. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.560 I mean, and that that that doesn't happen everywhere. I 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.840 mean that some of that stuff happens everywhere, but it's 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.640 just has been a pattern of that stuff, and this 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.800 kind of adds to it. And if you're a player Tony. Okay, 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.439 you've been in locker rooms, you've been on teams, what 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:14.920 the players saying. I mean, at what point do you 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.880 put that away and focus on on the game coming up? 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.160 That's will you gonna play football? You get it, But 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.079 you know there's gonna be an endless stream. But pets right, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.439 let me tell you what. There's a lot of jokes 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.160 in the locker room. There's a lot of comments being 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.360 I said, in the locker room, that's where I always 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.520 go back. And I was saying this morning with Dan 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.760 and Jeff, I said, I don't know how to explain it, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.000 but this stuff just becomes a distraction that takes a 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.520 life of its own. In any moment a team or 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.319 a locker room is worried about something else besides the 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.760 game at hand, it's a distraction. Now, there's always a 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.040 lot of banter or banter in the locker room back 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.120 and forth. Now and maybe it's not as much as 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.600 it was back when you know, I played Pete, But 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.560 could you imagine if this happened in our locker room, 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.160 There'll be jokes to be stuff on the board. I 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:04.079 mean it would be And at the next day, when 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.680 I was in the locker room. I would have gotten 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.720 I would have had ten guys telling the great lines, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.920 whether off the record or on the record, on on 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.120 you know why it happened and it's no, it's okay. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:17.000 Let's think about this. Remember when the acc incident happened 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.120 in the locker room. I mean the poor was it 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.360 the punter sliced his leg almongst off or whatever? Do 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.040 you know that it was the topic of conversation and 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.480 jokes inside that locker room for at least a month, right, 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.560 I mean things happened and they become a distraction. And 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:40.400 this having your leader, your discipline guy be in this 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.560 situation is not a good look for the football team. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.479 It just isn't. And again staying out of the morality 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.360 part of it, because that's not you know, that's his 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.320 business and that's his family's business. Staying from a football standpoint, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.720 you just it's just not a good look for Emery 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:01.679 when you think of bread, we're going to break. We've 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.120 done JP, we can be Yeah, unless you've got one 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.679 more thought, Tony, go ahead, one more quick one. You 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:08.960 know you've got a good one. Well, I was just 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.920 gonna say, I mean his other thing, I mean this 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.080 is human nature. But players are like this, like you 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.280 have to build up credibility and trust me, Urban has 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.240 a lot of credibility because of who he is and 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.280 what he's done in the success. So here's a lot 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.760 of credibility. But I do think that takes a hit 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.960 when you do something that is against what you are 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.360 preaching to your team. I mean no different than as 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:35.120 a player. If I am asking or demanding something from 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.280 my team as a team leader, but then I do 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:39.760 something contrary to what I am asking them to do, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.880 I lose credibility. I mean that's just human nature. I 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.840 mean you know that. I mean think of situations you're in, 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.840 whether it's your boss or a peer that's trying to 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.600 get you to do something or preaching something to you, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.320 and then they go do something that is completely antagonistic 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:56.360 to that. Um, I think there's a credibit. I think 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.800 credibility is questioned at least and next time. Those are 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.560 all of things that come up. Yeah, next time he calls, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.760 the next time he calls, the next time he calls 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.520 a player's parents, they're gonna be like, where a second? 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:11.960 What eat? One second? Coach Meyer, You're you're gonna talk 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.320 to me about this, Well, I was gonna go for 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.680 but I would say differently, Pete, because you earned credibility 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.400 by actions and by your track record and what you've 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:23.920 done in the past and what you're you know, do 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.400 you think you do in the future. This is why now, 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.080 in my opinion, winning you want to get rid of this? 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.720 Do you want this to go away? You have to 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.800 win and you have to beat Tennessee one good thing, J. 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.400 You win this weekend. It's it's gone, one quick thing JP, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.600 before you go to break. I actually had guys I 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.120 talked to that were wondering if this wasn't just one 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.760 way for him to get out of the job. And 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.720 that's how bad and bad a look it is. Some 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.720 people ask me that, they said, do you think this 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.440 might be a way for him to actually get away 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.360 get out of the job, And I'm like, I don't 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.160 think so. It's just a bad look. But think about 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.520 that question being asked after War Games of a head 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.040 coach in the NFL, is this a way for him 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.280 to get away from his job? Because you you know, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.880 walking away is a bad look too. That's the state 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.240 of affairs these days. We'll come back in a moment 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.800 plenty of ahead. We will touch on the Thursday night 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.720 football loss as well for the Jaguars, their fourth of 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.520 this season and nineteen in a row. Recap that ball game. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.240 They had it in hand and let it slip away 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.440 in the second half. In the second hour, we'll get 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.880 to your social media questions and plenty more ahead. This 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.640 is Jaguars Happy Our, presented by Jet Home Loans on 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:37.760 the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:48.000 to ten ten x OL, home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.520 I know, I thought the guys did a good job. Um, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.800 played a lot of different guys and I especially receiver 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:57.160 in tight end, but everybody was prepared. Everybody was prepared 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.120 and made the play when they needed to. So I 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.680 don't thought we need to do job on that end. Um. Yeah, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.240 tell the guys that a good job stepping up. And 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.879 we lost a great player in DJ. Obviously that's that 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.919 hurts love d J. It's my guy, so uh not 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.000 just because he's a great player. That's such a seeing 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:20.880 him going through that. But yeah, that's Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.280 After the Jags loss on Thursday Night Football and Cincinnati 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.520 and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.720 J P. Shadrick, Pete Frisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.960 with us today. Jaguars four. Their most recent was the 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.240 Thursday night football lost led fourteen zip at halftime. We're 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.480 all still shaking our heads after that when the Goolne 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.720 situation before half didn't go the right way, couldn't get 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.159 up three scores, missed the touchdown opportunity, and then lost 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.160 that lead altogether. The offense rallied back though it had 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.840 a big boy drive actually after that to to make game. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.720 The defense just couldn't it off the field in the 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.719 second half, and in fact they didn't at all. They 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.040 scored on all four drives the Bengals did and outscored 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.840 the Jaguars in the second was another collapse in the 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.240 second half. Unfortunately, Yeah it was. It was not a 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:14.919 good look. Look, let's go back to the play call 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.720 at the end of the half. Hated it, just absolutely 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.560 hated it. I don't mind being aggressive if you wanted 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.800 to go forward. I was split either way. I said, Okay, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.320 this is a bad team. You're trying to win a 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.040 game on the road. I understand where you could come from. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.120 From that standpoint, I probably would have kicked the field goal. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.600 But if you're going forward from the inch line, you 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.600 got a six ft six quarterback, take the snap under center, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.600 sneak the ball pushing, pushing forward, and get the touchdown. 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:41.000 If you're not going to do that, then turn and 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.400 hand the ball off the Robinson behind the left side 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.200 of the line, let them push people where right back, 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.040 and then try and get the touchdown that way. Running 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.000 that play from the shotgun, I mean, that was just absurd. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.199 It was a terrible call. I don't care how it 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.240 worked out on the field a couple of times. It 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.159 just was a terrible decision. And Urban said, it was 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.440 supposed to pitch it to Robinson. And if you pitched 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:04.840 it to Robinson, he was gonna be in a one 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.480 on I watched it today. You gonna he was gonna 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.439 be in a one on one situation with the safety. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:10.960 Does he win? Maybe? Does he not? I think the 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.199 easiest thing to do. You have a six foot six quarterback, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:18.840 quarterback sneaking, So I mean, I think you know at 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.320 the moment I said, you know, I said go for it, 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.720 because you know, when you're owing three and things aren't 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:25.040 going your way and you feel like, hey, we need 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:26.679 to get like just put a nail in the coffin. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.000 And I felt like, if you get a touchdown, there's 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.160 probably over, I mean, you know, or it's pretty close 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.280 to being over. Looking back, you could argue the field 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.000 goal is the best just because it's a big set, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:42.280 a three possession game, meaning and you know, getting three 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.919 possession coming back from down three possessions, and in the 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.400 way that game was going, it might have been difficult. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.000 With that said, I'm not gonna kill him for going 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.920 for it because I said go for it at the time. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.800 I like, I don't understand when you're on the half 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.280 yard line why you would run a play where your 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.960 quarterback or the runner is going parallel to the line 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:06.240 of scrimmage. Like, so either one or two plays quarterback 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.200 sneak or give it to James Robinson, you know, right 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.680 over the you know, in in either a gap because 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.840 tell me, the last time James Robinson has been tackled 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.399 for less than a foot it doesn't happen much like never, 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:22.000 And so either of those calls I'll be fine with. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.320 I'm with you. Pete didn't love the call um play call, 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.000 going for it. I'm good with that. What if they 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.080 had kick? Would you think would you have been upset 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:34.679 about that three scores made In the moment, I might 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.680 have said I'd have been more aggressive, But looking back 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.959 now it's three, it's a three possession game, I think 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.680 I'd be fine. That was a hard That was hard 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.920 when I usually you know me, I'm I'm always about 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.320 being aggressive. But I think in that scenario, either way 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.200 they played it, I was okay with it. I wasn't, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.040