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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night, December eighth, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We're jam packed tonight. I was going through what we

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Speaker 1: are going to discuss tonight, my promised to you in

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Speaker 1: less than an hour, and I decided we could probably

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Speaker 1: do four shows out of this one show tonight. But

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Speaker 1: we're not the kind of folks that like to drag

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Speaker 1: stuff out. When we're done, we're done. We move on

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Speaker 1: to the next topic like ninety five percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the playoff tonight, very broad generalized,

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Speaker 1: not going to go down that road only because we're

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Speaker 1: going to go down it at length a little bit

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Speaker 1: later this week. I'll tell you what I mean by

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Speaker 1: that in just a second. It's very unique. We haven't

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Speaker 1: done something like this at least this year, so I

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Speaker 1: think you'll like it. Also, several coaching updates now we've

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Speaker 1: been doing this. Some of these schools we've been hitting

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Speaker 1: on like every show, but that's only because there's new

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, some stuff's taken me by surprise,

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Speaker 1: like the Harbaugh stuff that's not surprising. Tom Herman not surprising.

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Speaker 1: There's some other stuff out there that's pretty surprising. We're

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Speaker 1: going to discuss all that tonight. Gus Melson I think

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Speaker 1: is in legitimate trouble at Auburn. This isn't something I expected.

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Speaker 1: I have spoken to you at length about this. We

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Speaker 1: have disagreed, me and some of you Auburn fans. We've

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Speaker 1: disagreed about this. But it's your program, not my program,

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Speaker 1: as I always tell you, so we'll discuss where that is.

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Speaker 1: Does the Mississippi State game matter Saturday? To me, it's

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Speaker 1: always seemed ludicrous that the fate of a man who

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Speaker 1: four quarters of football. I don't know that that's the case,

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Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that. LSU is a mess. I mean,

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Speaker 1: LSU is on fire figuratively at least, and it's a

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Speaker 1: unique situation. I was over on the Go twenty four

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Speaker 1: situation where a lot of you had reached out to

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Speaker 1: me in the DM future. DM means direct message. Someone

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Speaker 1: asked me that DM means a direct message. The DM

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Speaker 1: feature on the twenty four seven Sports website as well

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Speaker 1: as Twitter as well as email. So you guys hit

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be truthful about it because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot that needs to be said and has to be

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Speaker 1: said about LSU. It's not a good situation and it's

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Speaker 1: not just a twenty twenty situation. That's the most important part.

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Speaker 1: conference that got at this point one hundred percent approval

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Speaker 1: so there is no excuse, all right, College football playoff

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Speaker 1: rankings just released. I did not watch a nanosecond of

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Speaker 1: So I know what the rankings are. We already knew

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Speaker 1: And this is what we've spent the majority of time

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Speaker 1: were hearing some positive vibes out of Michigan. You notice that,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, things went uphill in the downhill very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So that game's canceled. What does that mean, obviously for

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Speaker 1: as it stands at seven oh four pm Central Standard time,

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Speaker 1: They're going to find a way. Now. I don't have

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's not at fault. It's the conference that's at fault.

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Speaker 1: See the conference doesn't have a team, you know, they

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Speaker 1: a very good football team this year. In fact, Indiana's

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes I'll feel comfortable going back and forth. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the playoff committee themselves, they're looking for a reason to

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have several different voices, and all these scenarios

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Speaker 1: back from that spot anymore than you do if Gilbert

428
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Speaker 1: ops out. You don't just immediately get that roster spot back.

429
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Speaker 1: And if it happens once or twice, that's okay. But

430
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Speaker 1: you ask any player, personnel, guy or girl out there.

431
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Speaker 1: You start having wave after wave these things happening. You

432
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Speaker 1: don't rectify that. It's not like you say, I'll screw

433
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Speaker 1: it in December, we'll sign thirty two. It's this in

434
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Speaker 1: two thousand and five. It's not meat market anymore. You

435
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Speaker 1: can't go out there like you did at ole Miss

436
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Speaker 1: and just oversign and immediately over the span of one

437
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Speaker 1: of two classes, we're going to fix our roster problems

438
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Speaker 1: they got. I think the count was sixty six scholarship

439
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Speaker 1: players right now. The CAP's eighty five. Most programs like

440
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: to float between you know, seventy five eighty five closer

441
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Speaker 1: to eighty five. They're not close, and they can only

442
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Speaker 1: sign twenty five per class. They got a problem right now,

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Speaker 1: and that's before any other opt outs happened. I know

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Speaker 1: there are rumors, nothing confirmed so far, but there are

445
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Speaker 1: a lot of issues here, and so I go back

446
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Speaker 1: to this main point. I don't know that this is

447
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Speaker 1: something that has a lid put on it in twenty twenty,

448
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Speaker 1: because new hires don't solve this. If it's a culture problem,

449
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Speaker 1: then that stems from leadership. It's a soil issue. In

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Speaker 1: other words, no seed in the way of a new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or a new defensive coordinator or a great

452
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Speaker 1: recruiting class. Those seeds aren't growing if the soil is poor.

453
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Speaker 1: The soil right now is poor at LSU. What's the solution.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, because really, when we're honest with ourselves,

455
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Speaker 1: the only true solution is not even something we can

456
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Speaker 1: speak out loud right now outside of just off field

457
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: scandal at a magnitude the likes of which we haven't seen.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what the future holds outside of that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you and I both know that's not happening immediately. So

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Speaker 1: I wish I had answers for you. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you I'm observing the same thing you are, and

462
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Speaker 1: I feel the same way you do. How about Michigan?

463
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Speaker 1: The computer is updating at the worst possible time. All right,

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Speaker 1: there we go, All right, Colin, let's start over VOD

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Speaker 1: purposes at the university of Michigan. There's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk, and it's all been that talk. There's been

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Speaker 1: talk on this show as well about the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Past two or three weeks, we've been hitting on this

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Speaker 1: pretty hard, and I've indicated that there are two paths

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Speaker 1: really at Michigan. Path number one is Jim Harbaugh leaves

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year to take a job

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Path number two is Jim Harbaugh has

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Speaker 1: a contract extension and he signs it and he's the

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Speaker 1: head coach at Michigan next year. There was no path three.

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Speaker 1: Never saw him being fired, even at the worst of

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Speaker 1: the worst moments this year for Michigan. Never saw it coming.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this. Those weren't guesses.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we guess, and when I do normally, if you've

479
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Speaker 1: watched the show long enough you understand how to read this,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you when I'm guessing, those aren't guesses. That's

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Speaker 1: just the way it is, Bruce Hornsby, That's just the

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Speaker 1: way it is. Now. Having said that, the last couple

483
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Speaker 1: of weeks, since then, some new information has come out

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Speaker 1: that it sort of seemingly verified what we've said on

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Speaker 1: this show, but I want you to pay close attention

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Speaker 1: because really, not a whole lot's changed. So John Bacon

487
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Speaker 1: last night, or it's been in the last few days,

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Speaker 1: came out with a report and I want to read

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Speaker 1: a quote from it. It's a good piece. I encourage

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Speaker 1: you to go read it from John Bacon. But he said,

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Speaker 1: ady Ward Manual has discussed a contract extension with a

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Speaker 1: lower base salary and buy out, but good provisions to

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Speaker 1: hire top assistance and large bonus and sentence which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, and this is me talking now, not mister Bacon.

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Speaker 1: That's how all contracts in college football should work. Probably

496
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Speaker 1: the biggest mismatch that no one talks about in all

497
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Speaker 1: of the sporting public these days is agents versus college administrators.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted that out an hour ago, and one of

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Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head and you said,

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Speaker 1: we'st cause it's not the administrator's money they're given away

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Speaker 1: to begin with. Yeah, it's actually a much broader issue

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Speaker 1: on college campuses than just athletics, by the way, but

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Speaker 1: that's another road down once we won't go. So that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's part two here. That's all what I just read you.

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Speaker 1: That's all. A lot of folks have taken the unnecessary

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Speaker 1: leap from that that all Harbaugh signing an extension. No,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily. So this is where I want you to

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Speaker 1: pay close attention. This is the year. This is the

509
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Speaker 1: time of year rather where one season is winding down

510
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Speaker 1: and the other season is just beginning. That's the agency season.

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Speaker 1: That's where the real players in the sport that you

512
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Speaker 1: always hear about but you never really see the face

513
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: of because they like it that way. This is when

514
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Speaker 1: they start playing. They're the professionals. They're all five stars.

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Speaker 1: And so the same report stated that's the quote that's

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Speaker 1: being circulated. The same report and subsequent reports have gone

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Speaker 1: on to state there have been several NFL teams that

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Speaker 1: have reached out to Jim Harbaugh. I can come as

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Speaker 1: close to confirming that as I can without having sat

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Speaker 1: in the room and listened. Not that I believe he's

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Speaker 1: had direct conversations. You understand how this works, but it's

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Speaker 1: possible because there are a few scenarios here. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: signed anything. That's all it's been left at. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about it at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: So really nothing has changed other than the ad there

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Speaker 1: and Jim Harbaugh making a public comment on it, because

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh said, it's always been my stance. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about it at the end of the year. Word manual.

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Speaker 1: It's on the table. We're going to talk about it

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Speaker 1: when the time is right. It doesn't change anything. It's

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Speaker 1: just since it's been acknowledged and everyone's dying and starving

532
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Speaker 1: for some information, you feel like something changed. Really it didn't.

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Speaker 1: So let me throw you with new scenarios here. Let's

534
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Speaker 1: just kick these your way, do with them what you want.

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Speaker 1: Number One, it's possible Jim Harbaugh came up with this.

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Speaker 1: Possible that this is his idea, and it's possible that

537
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Speaker 1: it's his idea and he wants to stay at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: It's possible. A lot of this NFL stuff is just overblown.

539
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Speaker 1: But he also understands financial times are very tight at

540
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Speaker 1: Michigan right now. And also, to be honest, he's just underperformed.

541
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Speaker 1: So if he's going to lower his base salary from

542
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Speaker 1: seven or eight a year to five or six a year,

543
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Speaker 1: but he's got a higher pool for top assistance and

544
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Speaker 1: he's got an incentive laden contract, so be it. You're

545
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Speaker 1: confident in yourself. You should never have a problem with

546
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: that anyway. But number two, it's possible that Michigan's not

547
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Speaker 1: thrilled with him, but they also have a stronger and

548
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Speaker 1: a higher principled stance that they're going to take on this.

549
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Speaker 1: So while they're not thrilled with the performance, they're not

550
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Speaker 1: gonna fire him. That's just off the table because it's Michigan,

551
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: and that's should go on a T shirt because it's Michigan.

552
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Speaker 1: That's a bumper sticker right now. But because Michigan, maybe

553
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: they're not going to fire him, they don't like where

554
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: they are. They're going to negotiate us buy out down.

555
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Speaker 1: They're going to renegotiate and extend him with a lower salary.

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Speaker 1: That's the trade off for getting the extension. Or how

557
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: about this third scenario, It's possible that the reason this

558
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: has been such a moot point, seemingly, and they've had

559
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: such little incentive to make a public comment on it,

560
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: is because what if they both know it's never gonna

561
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: come to this anyway? What if both parties are aware

562
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Speaker 1: that the NFL is Jim Harbaugh's future. Now that's pure speculation.

563
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Speaker 1: I'm not even guessing that I'm just kind of throwing

564
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Speaker 1: it out there. Are we going to have to wait

565
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Speaker 1: till the end of the season? That's been the question.

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Speaker 1: When are we going to wait? And what's the point

567
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: in time where we're gonna finally hear something solid on this?

568
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Speaker 1: And it's always been kind of at the end of

569
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Speaker 1: the year. I don't know. If I don't know if

570
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Speaker 1: everyone up there's looked around, I think most of the

571
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Speaker 1: fans have. The end of the year is probably here.

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Speaker 1: From Michigan, they're not playing Saturday. They may very well

573
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Speaker 1: not play the game day of the Big Ten Championship

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Speaker 1: and they just be done. So if they are and

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Speaker 1: we get final word on that sooner rather than later,

576
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: when can we expect to hear something The NFL season

577
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: going to be winding down. You got the early signing

578
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Speaker 1: date that's coming up next Wednesdays. There is no perfect time,

579
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: that's the point. So I did want to address this

580
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Speaker 1: on the way out the door. I gotta be careful here,

581
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: but I wanted to address this. There was a report

582
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: circulating out there earlier today that remember which season I

583
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: told you has just started? And with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: there was a report circulating today that Matt Campbell, it's

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Speaker 1: either Notre Dame or Texas. For him, I will state

586
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Speaker 1: head coach, it's either Notre Dame or Texas. He wouldn't

587
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Speaker 1: even be interested in Michigan. Allow me to summarize our

588
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: thoughts here on that. There's the report, and there's what

589
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: I want you to do with that. That's false, and

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Speaker 1: we'll leave it at that. Let's move on. Oh boy,

591
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Speaker 1: where do we want to go first? Let's go Texas first.

592
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Speaker 1: Tom Herman is still the head coach of Texas. Texas

593
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Speaker 1: is playing Kansas Saturday. They're favored by over four touchdowns.

594
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Speaker 1: They're probably going to win. They're probably going to finish

595
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Speaker 1: the year eight and three. What is the latest with

596
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Speaker 1: Tom Herman here? Well, it seems as though ninety five

597
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: percent of you have moved on from the idea of

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer being the future head coach at Texas. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do want to reiterate for those of you who

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Speaker 1: in retrospect are saying, oh, there was a it was

601
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Speaker 1: never a shot of this happening. I think that's wrong.

602
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: What I do believe is it was a long shot,

603
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Speaker 1: and I do believe urban Meyer had like fifteen boxes

604
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Speaker 1: that needed to be checked and Texas checked as many

605
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Speaker 1: of them as they as they could. I think there

606
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: are some things that were out of Texas's control that

607
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Speaker 1: urban Meyer was going to have to have, and it's

608
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: much more nuanced stuff. But it wasn't a money deal,

609
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: like it wasn't a resources deal, a promise for facilities.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was any of that. I think

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Speaker 1: there were some things on urban Meyer's side that he

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00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: would have wanted to secure if he were to ever

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Speaker 1: even venture down that road, and I don't think he

614
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: was going to get him, and it's nothing Texas could

615
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: really do. So the question is still, is anyone else

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00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: worth a twenty five million dollar buyout? And I want

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00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: you to again theme tonight, consider how ludicrous it is

618
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Speaker 1: that we're throwing around that kind of number. On what

619
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: planet in what era? Does Tom Herman ever have any

620
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: business walking around with a twenty five million dollar buyout?

621
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Speaker 1: Where was he ever going at any point? This was

622
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: after the Sugar Bowl when they beat Georgia. That's when

623
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: it happened, much to the chagrin of a lot of

624
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: people down there who were overruled. You throw it out

625
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: there just because you have it and just go You

626
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: don't ever think it's going to be necessary anyway, because hey,

627
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: this guy just won the Sugar Bowl. So if anything,

628
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Speaker 1: I just it makes you feel good. Hey, we're married

629
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: to this guy. Yeah, you sure are. Well, you're chained

630
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: to him. I wouldn't say married, you're chained to him now,

631
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: admins versus agents. I'll say it again, it's the most

632
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: lopsided rivalry in all of sports, not just college, all

633
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: of sports. So Texas, like I said, probably about to

634
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: finish eight and three. Now you get optics involved. Back

635
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: when you had just lost to Oklahoma, things were terrible,

636
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: the optics were bad. Everyone was on board. Well, now

637
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: probably going to be eight and three, and so you've

638
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: got a sizeable portion and I understand it perfectly, perfectly. Well,

639
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: you got a sizeable portion of the fan base. And

640
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: then outsiders whose opinions shouldn't matter but they often do,

641
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: who are going to look and they're going to say,

642
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: you can't fire a coach who's eight and three. Well,

643
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: sure you can, you can if you don't feel like

644
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: he's the right guy for your job. However, this is

645
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: not just an apples apples deal. Buyouts involved. So then

646
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: we circle back to the question that we've been asking,

647
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: and we're still asking it today, and I would imagine

648
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: we'll be asking it at least through Saturday. Is there

649
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: anyone else on any list that you've seen, or maybe

650
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: a list we haven't seen that Crystal Conte and company

651
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: have seen where a name exists that is a definitive

652
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: upgrade over Tom Herman so much so that you're willing

653
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: to pay twenty five million dollars to buy him out

654
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: and pay a new staff. Does that name exist? I

655
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: can't tell you I've seen that now, but I will

656
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: tell you this. I do think there may be names

657
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: out there that we are not privy to that haven't

658
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: been put on any message board or put in any

659
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: headline that could be in play, because I'm a believer

660
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: that the Texas job does have that kind of stroke

661
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: in the coaching industry. Still, I think there's one more

662
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: run that they're going to make. I don't know if

663
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: we'll ever know about it. I do think there's one

664
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: more run at least that they're going to make, because

665
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: I think there's enough folks out there with enough money

666
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: who have severed ties with Tom Herman the idea of

667
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: him being the coach that they want to take another

668
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: shot out to it someone else not named urban Meyer

669
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: before it's just accepted. Hey, not ideal, but this is

670
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: going to be our guy, for better or for worse,

671
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: at least moving into twenty twenty one. Now that's Tom Herman.

672
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: What about Gus Mauzon. I'm genuinely surprised at this. I'm

673
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: close to Auburn, and I got to tell you, I

674
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: am genuinely surprised at how much smoke there is around

675
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: Gus Malson. As recently as a week ago. I mean

676
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: coming out of the Iron Bowl. I was hearing and

677
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: that's as bad as it gets. You get smoked by

678
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: your arch rival, you would think things are going to

679
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: be as bad as they can get out of that.

680
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: And I was hearing it's not going to happen. This

681
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: year is just not going to happen. Maozon has as

682
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: many detractors as he has. There are a lot of

683
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: merits on his resume too. You're not hearing about him

684
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: right now because it's not advantageous to talk about him

685
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: right now. But listen, regardless, he is in real trouble.

686
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: And I want to make something clear. A lot of

687
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: times when you're going to fire a coach. The automatic

688
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: thing is like we were talking about with Herman, the buyout.

689
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: Is it worth it, Whether it's worth it, that we

690
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: can address momentarily. Auburn's got the money. I've never indicated

691
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: they don't have the money. I think some of you

692
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: have misconstrued some of the things I've said on the show. No, no, no,

693
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: it's not that they don't have the money. If you

694
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: understand some of the names that are on various rooms

695
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: and things around the Auburn campus, you know Rain and whatnot. Well,

696
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: if you understand what kind of money the Rain name has,

697
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: For example, they got lumber money at Auburn, lumber money. People,

698
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: they're not hurting to buy a coach out. It's whether

699
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: it's prudent that you don't become that rich by making

700
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: very very unwise financial moves, shall we say. So you

701
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: may think, oh, you got a nine to ten figure

702
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: net worth, it's just a drop in the bucket. It's

703
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: not about that. It's about whether it's prudent to make

704
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: the move. Now, if you talk to some folks around Auburn,

705
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: they'll tell you money's been there. It's not that they're

706
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: passing around the hat right now. It's been there. They

707
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: wanted some of them to make a move on them.

708
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: A while back. You had a president that's no longer

709
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: there by the way, who may have stood in the way.

710
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: Various BOT members have stood in the way, and whatever

711
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: the case may be, there is some thinking down there

712
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: that I personally haven't had conveyed to me. Doesn't mean anything, really,

713
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: but there is some thinking down there by some people

714
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: in the know that there's been enough movement to make

715
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: a move on Gus Malson. I am still in the

716
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: camp for the record that I'd be surprised if this happened.

717
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if Auburn fired Gus Malson. Not shocked anymore,

718
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: but I'd be surprised. I keep asking for replacements. It's

719
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: the game we always play. Just go round and round

720
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: and round. It's your program. You have a right to

721
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: be emotional about it because you invest in it financially

722
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: and emotionally. To the degree that you should respect. Is

723
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: that Keith neiber in the background, I think it was

724
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: you should respect a legitimate return on your investment. I

725
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: get the passion. I appreciate it, I fully appreciate it. However,

726
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: it is my opinion that you don't make a move

727
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: like this to hire someone who could do as good

728
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: as Malazan or whoever your coach is. You make the

729
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: move only if you have someone out there who is reasonable.

730
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: It's a legitimate candidate. Urban Meyer doesn't fit that description.

731
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Just let's note that is someone out there, definitively better

732
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: If that person's out there, I'm on board with the move.

733
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, there's very few people who

734
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: would benefit from a high flying Auburn program than me,

735
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: So I've got all the motivation in the world for it.

736
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that name that I think is realistic

737
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: for them to get and would be a definitive upgrade.

738
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: And some of the names you guys have thrown at

739
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: me are either not realistic or are not nearly the

740
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: definitive upgrade that some of you think they are. Here's

741
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: his biggot. Really, you got to be kind of closer

742
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: to the Auburn program to pick up on this. One

743
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: of his biggest issues. And it's just a it's a

744
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: character thing, not that he lacks character. I guess it's

745
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: a personality thing. That's the word I should use. Malzon

746
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of friends, down there, Like he

747
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of allies. He's kind of reclusive.

748
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: He's kind of aloof which is all well and good

749
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: when you're winning. You know, if you head down the

750
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: road and go eat at waffle house after wins, as

751
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: long as you're winning, like that's cool. But then when

752
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: you're not, all of a sudden, it's go eat at

753
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: your house, weirdo, what are you doing? Get out of here.

754
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: College kids need this seat. And there's just a bunch

755
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: of different things like that where Malason's not one for

756
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: better or for worse to go around slapping bags and

757
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, working the work in the speaking circuit. It's

758
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: just not his scene. His scene is football, and if

759
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: it's not football related, you know, he's not really interested

760
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: in it. I tell you, Nick Saban's got that mentality.

761
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: But Saban is a master at working that scene. Like

762
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Nick Saban works three hundred and eighty days a year.

763
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm convinced guy's all over the place. I mean, he'll

764
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: grind it out all day and then he'll hop in

765
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: the jet and go do a speaking engagement that night

766
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: and you'll never even know about it. He's all over

767
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: the place. Not that he's ever been trouble, he'll he'll

768
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: decide when he walks away from Alabama. But if Malzon

769
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: does that, just that these are the kind of situations

770
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: where if folks are on the fence, it probably buys

771
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: you another year. He doesn't have that kind of equity

772
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: built up, and he really never has. The only ally

773
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: he has is the absurd contract that he and Jimmy

774
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Sexton backed Auburn into a corner and forced to sign

775
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen before the SEC title game. It was

776
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: a brilliant move on their part. It was a desperation

777
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: move on Auburn's part, And if you want to hate

778
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: on that, I want you to remember what the situation

779
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: was when that happened. It's not just in a vacuum.

780
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: Always remember that was when Tennessee it seemed like was

781
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: burning to the ground. They've gone through forty seven different

782
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: candidates and been told no, and eventually they settled on

783
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy Pruett. But the powers that be at Auburn were

784
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: looking at Malsan. Having just beat number one Georgia and

785
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: number one Alabama and consecutive well three weeks, two times

786
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: in three weeks hadn't been done before they're about to

787
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: go to the SEC title game. He's totally rescued the

788
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: program and the season from the depths of you know where,

789
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: he wants an extension, We can't tell him no. How

790
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: are we going to tell him no? And the other

791
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: thing that's snuck in the back door, this is agent

792
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: season and he's represented by the best. Arkansas came in

793
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: the back door, and very conveniently, these rumors about Arkansas

794
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: willing to back a Brinch truck right up to his

795
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: back door and take him up to Fayetteville. Those rumors

796
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: were circulating. All that was happening the week of the

797
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: SEC Championship game. So before you talk about how stupid

798
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: it was, you got to remember the factors. They were

799
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: looking at Tennessee and saying, Tennessee can't even they can't

800
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: even get a coach. We don't want to be in

801
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: that situation. Plus, if we fire the guy that just

802
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: beat number one twice in three weeks and he's headed

803
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: the SEC title game and we won't renew him, so

804
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: he walks, how attractive is our job going to be?

805
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: They had no choice, They did what they had to do,

806
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: and now you reap the consequences. I guess of that,

807
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: because that's the ally that Gus Malson has his contract

808
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: right now, has been one of his biggest allies. Let's

809
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: get some thoughts on Shane Beemer here right quick. Several

810
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: of you asked about this Shane Beemer new head coach

811
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: at South Carolina one hundred percent approval rating after the

812
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: press conference. If you are a press conference guy or

813
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: girl boy, you're on board what I thought was going

814
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: to be called the Shane train, but apparently we're going

815
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: to go with Beam team. I guess it works, it rhymes,

816
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: but you know I had my money on Shane train

817
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, and so it's important to keep in

818
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: mind something here as we circle back around to do

819
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: we think it was the right hire or not? Well,

820
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: I made my opinion well known, like if I'm running

821
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: things up there, Billy Napier would have been my number

822
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: one can Well Napier didn't get the job, And you

823
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: can believe whatever you want to about the way that

824
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: went down, but it's important to note South Carolina seems

825
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: to have gotten their guy. Now, whether other people were

826
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: offered the job or whatnot, I'm not talking about that necessarily.

827
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: This is the guy that had the most traction from

828
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: day one. It's not a name that's snuck in there late.

829
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: It's not a name that after they had to backtrack

830
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: and reassess, after they got told no by Plan A

831
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: and B, he all of a sudden became a priority

832
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: on the radar. This not how this happened. As soon

833
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: as the job was open, and really before it was opened,

834
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: Shane Beemer's name was front and center. Probably several reasons

835
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: for that, but the point is he had support nearly

836
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: universally behind the scenes there. I'm going to tell you

837
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: when that's important in a second. But they got their man,

838
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: So whatever happens down the road, that means I can

839
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: rightfully sit here and say South Carolina is getting exactly

840
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: what they asked for. Whether they're winning ten games or

841
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: losing ten games, you're getting exactly what you asked for.

842
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: So I prefer napier. But they got their guy. Maybe

843
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: their criteria far different than mine. Love and passion and

844
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: then just genuine energy. If you've got those commodities in

845
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: your head, coach, it'll solve a lot of problems in

846
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: this business. If you've just got a guy who genuinely

847
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: loves the program, and he's willing to run through a

848
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: brick wall face first for the program instead of viewing

849
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: it as a wrung on a ladder. It's important. It's

850
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: very obvious. It was a primary goal of South Carolina

851
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: is to get a guy who checked those boxes. I

852
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: think more so maybe than any other box, aside from

853
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, has he ever picked up a football before.

854
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I can't shake. So now that the

855
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: hire is made, it's not you know who's going to

856
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: get it, speculation, hot board, all that stuff. Here's what

857
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: I can't shake. The idea of us looking down the

858
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: road kind of like I did a couple of weeks ago,

859
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: but different context here looking down the road and everyone

860
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: remembering In South Carolina, at least everyone remembering what the

861
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: talk was because they're looking around and it's kind of inverse.

862
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Right now, in and around Carolina, the approval of this

863
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: higher is overwhelming. That's why, really outsiders don't matter right now.

864
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: They love the Higher and that's what matters. If you

865
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: do though, Let's just say you're an Iowa fan, so

866
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: you're not in Carolina. You're just kind of curious. The

867
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: outside perception is probably thirty seventy positive negative. Maybe some indifferent,

868
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: but most people don't think it's gonna work out. Just

869
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: to be blunt about it, three years down the road,

870
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: what if that old scenario I kicked to you a

871
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. What if it's happening. What if

872
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: they are in contention for the SEC East. The program

873
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: of the roster perfectly reflects the thumbprint of Shane Biemer.

874
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: It ends up being a home run higher. Let's just say,

875
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: against the odds, it ends up being a home run higher.

876
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: Think about the energy around the program. Not only will

877
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: they have a winning product on the field, but here's

878
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: what they'll also know. They'll also know the guy that

879
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: only we believed in when everyone else doubted it. That's

880
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: who's winning. It's kind of like that twenty nineteen energy

881
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: from LSU, to be honest with you, just kind of

882
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 1: hopefully stretch it out over more than just one year.

883
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: It's that energy where one of our guys is leading

884
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: our program and screw the rest of you. You didn't

885
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: believe in him when we hired him, but we did,

886
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: so we know what's better for our program. Then you'll

887
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: ever know what's better for our program. Most of you

888
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: the only time you're ever in Carolina is to go

889
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: to one of our beaches. You couldn't find Columbia without

890
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: a GPS navigation in your car. So we don't really

891
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: care what you think about our hire. Our hire has

892
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: been money. And now our higher has got us on

893
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: the field with Georgia and we're third down and two

894
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: twenty three twenty three tie fourth quarter. I mean, if

895
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: we convert here, we're in field goal arrange to win

896
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: the SEC East. Is that a long shot to me?

897
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: It is? But if it does pan out, you have

898
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: got the ingredients for a cult like run, the likes

899
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: of which and the energy, the likes of which you

900
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen in quite a while in Columbia, South Carolina,

901
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: and not the kind of bad cult that you know

902
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: makes you up and move to a remote village in

903
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, Central America, South America because folks are after you.

904
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: Not that kind of cult, a good kind of cult,

905
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: but the kind of cult where it's circle the wagons

906
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: and you're either in here or you're not in here,

907
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: and you need to draw the line right now, and

908
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: you need to decide who's in there and who's not

909
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: in there. That's how this could pan out of course,

910
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: you and I are both smart enough and reasonable enough

911
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: to know it also could flop. So there's that. But

912
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: I would selfishly since back in Columbus they still call

913
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: me Cocky Junior because they thought I went to Carolina.

914
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: I just worked for a bunch of folks who have

915
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: gone to Carolina. But since I have been given that label,

916
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: I'll play it and I'll pull for Shane Beemer. I

917
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: have no problem doing that, and I have no problem

918
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: being honest about it either. All right, let's talk about

919
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: the Ram and Noudle express we had, Well, we had

920
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: a card derail earlier today. We like that to happen

921
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: before the game start, though, So we had Ohio plus

922
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: four against Kent, and I didn't know before I walked

923
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: in here tonight that game's been canceled. I didn't even

924
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: We didn't even know enough to scratch it out on

925
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: the graphic here. So we'll have that fixed Thursday night.

926
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: But here's what we do have. I gave you Virginia

927
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: plus two and a half. I am considering strongly upping

928
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: that to a double play, which I haven't done this year,

929
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: but we are very confident in that pick. I'll just

930
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: say that. So we got Virginia plus two and a

931
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: half Colorado minus one. That's a Friday night game they're

932
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: playing Utah. Colorado minus one is our second play. Wake

933
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Forest plus two and a half against Louisville. Think that

934
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: game's on Saturday. Early Kick wake Forest is plus two

935
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: and a half. There are several more games coming. I

936
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: cannot in strong enough terms stress that you need to

937
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: be following me on Twitter at Late Kick Josh. That

938
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: is where I tweet out the picks a lot of times,

939
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: in fact, most of the time before I ever give

940
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: them on the show, and sometimes by the time I've

941
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: given them on the show, the line has moved. So

942
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: aside from a lot of other things that we talk

943
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: about on Twitter, that's the first place that the picks

944
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: surface at Late Kick Josh. Make sure you're following me there.

945
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: And that concludes our show. Now I told you we

946
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: get it in under an hour. I mean, that is efficiency.

947
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: You rarely find that these days. So for director Colin,

948
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: for producer Jordan on the podcast side of things, I'm

949
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: Josh Pate. Thanks so much for tuning in. We'll see

950
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: you again here Thursday night. Have a great evening, and

951
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: God bless