1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: It is the Ben Ferguson Podcasts, and I am under 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: the weather, sick as a dog. And Senator Cruz and 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: I did our podcast together as a joint podcast as 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: we've still got a country to save and we still 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: got to fight. But I am really under the weather. 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: So I want to let you know that on the 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: front end as we decide to do a joint pod 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: for you this morning. Take a listen, as we're going 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: to be talking about several different issues, including deportations and 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Zelensky coming to America in a campaign for Kamway. Harris, 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: how is that not a major violation of campaign finance laws? 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: Plus President community now becoming a big issue in Washington 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: with hearings on Capitol Hill. No, why Senator you're beating 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: me today. You're somewhat under the weather. But I think 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: you've got more energy than I do. Well, I think 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: that's probably right. But but but hopefully neither of us 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: cough cough up along and we can wait. We can 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: talk about the great things that that that that are 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: happening in this country that are really threatening our nation, 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: and that gives you reason to fight even when you 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: may not feel great. Amen to that We've got a 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: very interesting subject that has popped up, and that deals 24 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: with Kamala Harris. 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, Kamala's radical past keeps coming back to 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: haunt her. She's trying to run a presidential campaign pretending 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: not to be a radical leftist, and the problem is 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: truth keeps getting in the way. We now have video 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: and audio of her at a rally chanting down with 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: deportation and amazingly doing it right next to discredited hustler 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: Jesse Smolette, and they're chatting with the whole mob. Up 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: with education, down with deportation. It's really quite remarkable. We're 33 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: going to talk about that. We're also going to talk 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: about a story unlike any I've ever seen before, which 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: is Ukraine's president Zelenski, came to Pennsylvania and is essentially 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: campaigning for Kamala Harris and he's attacking Donald Trump and JD. 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Vance. 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: It is shocking. I do not recall ever seeing a 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: foreign leader do this. It's infuriating. We're going to talk 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: about that too. 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Uh, and the media clearly isn't doing their job. 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: You've got this video and it's Kamala Harris. She's straight 91 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: up out there, she's very proud of it, shouting she's down, 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: she's not down with deportations at this rally. And when 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: you see this resurface video of her protesting against deporting 94 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: migrants with a disgraced celebrity, you go, man, I wonder 95 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: how long the media had this and they decide to 96 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: sit on it. 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: Well clearly that they don't want people to see it, 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: and and and give a listen. You need to listen 99 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: to what Kamala Harris, the sitting vice president and someone 100 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: who right who wants to be president of the United States, 101 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: what she was happily chanting with the mob on the street. 102 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 2: I mean there it is up up with education, down, 103 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: down with deportation, saying we're not importing anybody. 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: This is what she believes. Believe her when she says it. 105 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you watch the video, they're all dancing joyously. 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: I mean it is these are a bunch of radicals. 107 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: They support open borders. Kamal Harris is a radical. She 108 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: supports open borders. She always has. She's always voted for 109 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: open borders. She's always advocated for open borders. And right 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: now her strategy is to try to lie to the 111 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: American people. She is literally right now spending millions of 112 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: dollars running ads TV ads with video of Trump's border wall, 113 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: something she's opposed from day one, But for the next 114 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: six weeks on the campaign trail, she is going to 115 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: pretend that she's all for securing the border and all 116 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: four deportation, unless God forbid, she wins, and then you're 117 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: gonna discover the open borders we've had in the last 118 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: four years, they're just getting started and they're only getting work. 119 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, and you talk about that just a straight up lying. 120 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: You know. 121 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: Her new ad shows Trump's wall, which she said was 122 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: inhumane and that she would tear down and never allow 123 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: and it should never be allowed to be built. Now 124 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: apparently she's in favor of it, but she's obviously not. 125 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: She's just trying to buy votes because she understands it's 126 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: a liability. What's going on at the Southern border right now, 127 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: and how every city in America has become a border city, 128 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: and every liberal city that was a sanctuary city has 129 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: now turned into a total disaster. And then you see 130 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: this video come back out or this video come back 131 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: up that they were a guest trying to hide because 132 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: it's not popular right now, and you know what she 133 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: believes center Like, it's very clear she wants to flood 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: the border with illegal immigrants if she is elected president. 135 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: And this also comes as a new report has come 136 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: out talking about how Mexico has launched a massive operation 137 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: through which migrants are intercepting, apprehended in northern States, brought 138 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: to the corner of the country furthest from the US border, 139 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: then process and released. As the Washington Post summarize it, quote, 140 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: aided by the military, agents, added checkpoints on the highways, 141 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: and ramped up searches of trains and buses. In the 142 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: first half of twenty twenty four, Mexico logs seven hundred 143 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: and twelve thousand apprehensions, nearly triple the number in the 144 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: same period last year. And what we're being told now 145 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: is this all came out of the deal with Biden 146 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Harris when they had that meeting with the leadership in Mexico, like, hey, 147 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: right before election day, we need the number of border 148 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: crossings to drop. Can you guys help us out? And 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: now we know the plan is actually working very well 150 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: in Mexico. 151 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: Well, and listen, there is a reason that the left 152 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: is not upset with Kamala because they know this is 153 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: who she is. They know this is what she believes. 154 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: She's been the borders are for four years. If she's president, 155 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: the open borders get worse. The eleven and a half 156 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: million illegal aliens becomes twenty million becomes thirty million. That 157 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: is their plan to fundamentally change the American electorate. They 158 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: view all of them as future Democrat voters, some voting 159 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: illegally immediately and some voting when Democrats seize control and 160 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: give them amnesty. That is their plan. And nobody, you know, 161 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: the radicals who were dancing in the street with Kamala 162 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 3: chanting down with deportation, they're not upset with Kamala's ads 163 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: with the border wall. Why is that because they know 164 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: she's lying. They're perfectly happy for her to lie to 165 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: the voters, and they think the voters are gullible enough 166 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: that they'll be like, oh, oh, she agrees with me 167 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: on border security. I got to say, I don't think 168 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: the American people are nearly as gullible as Democrats think 169 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: they are. 170 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: You look at the headline and it says Mexico goes 171 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: into overdrive to help Biden Harris administration slow illegal immigration 172 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: before election day. So it's all a POI. This is 173 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: all being done quickly on purpose. They're saying today the 174 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: illegal border crossings are now. However, thirty five one hundred 175 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: for the day that's down, and they're going to campaign 176 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: on this. Do you really believe that this is going 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: to work with the American people. 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't. 179 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: But I got to say, the president of Mexico is 180 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: not the only foreign leader who is trying to influence 181 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: this election and wants Kamala Harris selected president. President Zelenski 182 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: is in the United States and he's effectively campaigning for 183 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: Kamala That this is a story, as I said at 184 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: the outset, that just shocks me. I've never seen this 185 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: happen where a foreign leader comes. He went to Pennsylvania, 186 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: the biggest swing state in the country. He went to 187 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: an ammunition factory. He arrived on an Air Force jet 188 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: presumably paid for by the taxpayers. And he does this 189 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: whole interview in The New Yorker where he slams Donald Trump, 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: and he slams JD. Van Zelenski says in the interview 191 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: that Trump quote doesn't really know how to stop the war, 192 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: even if he might think he knows how. And then 193 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: on Vance, he attacks Vance directly and says Vance's quote 194 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: too radical. Now, I got to say, who the hell 195 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: is Zelenski to be trying to interfere in our election? 196 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: The arrogance of this guy, And you know what, in 197 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: the Congress, this guy has gotten Republican support for military aid. 198 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: You want to find a way for that to disappear. 199 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: This is an awfully good way to do it. And 200 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: the guy, I've got to say, is an absolute moron 201 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: for coming to the US six weeks before the election 202 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: and attacking Trump and Vance. I don't care if Zelensky 203 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: likes or dislikes what they have to say. He is 204 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: if he had the sense guy gave a cricket, he 205 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: would have said on that question, you know what, I'm 206 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: not going to comment about US elections. That's for the 207 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: people of America to decide. That would have been smart 208 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 3: but you know what, Kamala Harris is perfectly happy to 209 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: use this guy as essentially a campaign prop. And and 210 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: and as I said, it is absolutely infuriating. Yeah, you 211 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: look at what he was here for, and it was 212 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: to get a check. And that's the part I think 213 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: people need to understand. And and it wasn't just to 214 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: get a check. 215 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: It was also tou They described it as a victory 216 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: plan quote unquote that he was going to lay out 217 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: to President Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. They also said 218 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: he was going to show it to Trump, which made 219 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: me laugh. This is a two and a half years 220 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: of war with Russia and now they've come up with 221 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: a victory plan. It look he knows if he wants 222 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: unlimited cash, then then then Biden and Harris are the team. 223 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: And that means Harris now is a team because they 224 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 2: will write him a check whenever he needs. 225 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: It, and they. 226 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: Will continue this for apparently another two and a half 227 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: years or another five years, whatever it is. But when 228 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: he comes here on our dollar, how is this not 229 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: an enkind donation? I mean it used to be that 230 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: when I was on campaigns, they would spend hours with 231 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: us Senator going over campaign finance rules and laws, so 232 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: that none of us ever made a mistake and it 233 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: was not a joke like they took real time of 234 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: like the dues and don'ts and certain things that you 235 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,359 Speaker 2: can and cannot do. This dude's flying over here. Taxpayers 236 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: are paying for it. He's on a big I mean 237 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: a big jet. He lands in a swing state, he 238 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: gets off the plane, he does the interview. This is 239 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: obviously a campaign contribution to the Harrison campaign, and no 240 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: one back to Andy that the taxpayers are paying for 241 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: this propaganda. 242 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: So Ben, you're saying they didn't pick Pennsylvania at random. 243 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: It wasn't just let's throw a dart at the map 244 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: and see where it hits. The fact that it's the 245 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: most critical swing state in the entire country was was 246 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: was a factor in why why Kamala Harris wanted him 247 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. 248 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I mean pretty obvious. 249 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 3: And listen to combine that ostensibly what he said he 250 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: was there as he was thanking the ammunition plant, because 251 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: they were making the ammunition that's being sent to Ukraine. 252 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: Doing that I think is unacceptable, but combining it with 253 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: explicitly attacking both Donald Trump and jd Vance is incredibly 254 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: foolish and and let's be clear. Look, look, if you 255 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: look at the polling, I don't know what the odds 256 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: are that that that that Trump wins. I certainly hope 257 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: and pray he wins, but the odds are significant, whatever 258 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: they are. 259 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: Neither of us know what the odds are. 260 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: Sitting here today, Zelensky that this is just dumb on 261 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: his part because if Trump wins, he's got a huge 262 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: problem that just got bigger. And if Trump loses, you know, 263 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: good luck trying to get Republicans to listen to what 264 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: he has to say if he just behaves like a 265 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,479 Speaker 3: Democrat campaign activist. 266 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: One other question I want to ask you is about Zelensky. 267 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Real quick was going to this you know AMMO plant 268 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: that they went to. It made me laugh that he's 269 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: like acting like, you know, there's some do gooders that 270 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: are giving him this AMO. To be clear, the American 271 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: tax dollars are paying for them. He would never need 272 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: to go there if this wasn't for a political stunt, 273 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: because they're going to cast a check. And that's how 274 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: they've set this up where hey, they make them America 275 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: get pays for that AMO. The AMO then goes to 276 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: Ukraine and it just was such a made for TV 277 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: propaganda moment, and I want people to understand that that's 278 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: what this was, to support and advocate for the campaign. 279 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I'll tell you an 280 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: additional point that was made by Donald Trump Junior on 281 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: Twitter I think is really quite significant. So so Trump 282 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: Junior tweeted, So, a foreign leader who has received billions 283 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: of dollars in funding from American taxpayers comes to our 284 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: country and has the nerve to attack the GOP ticket 285 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: for president. And he does this right after a pro 286 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: Ukraine zelot tried to assassinate my father. Disgraceful and and 287 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: and that's a point. Look, this, this this lunatic who 288 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: camped out on the golf course and was there to 289 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: assassinate President Trump. The facts that have come out on 290 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: him as he was truly a pro Ukraine zealot, so 291 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: much so that he flew over there and was trying 292 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: to enlist to fight with the Ukrainians and he was 293 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: such a kook. The Ukrainians said, we don't want you. 294 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: But but that that really does add insult to injury. 295 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: It does, and it also I think tells you just 296 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: how tone death they are, or maybe they just don't 297 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: care at all. 298 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they care at all. 299 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: Look, I think I don't know, but I think it 300 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: was remarkably foolish. And you know, look, I normally try 301 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: to give some grace and leniency to a leader in wartime. 302 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 3: I mean, he's fighting for his country. I understand what 303 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: he's doing. This was foolish. I still want Russia to lose, 304 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 3: but I think what Zelensky did today was one of 305 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: the greatest unforced errors I've seen a foreign leader do. 306 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 3: I've never seen this happen in my entire life, and 307 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: I think it really was a bad, bad mistake by Zelensky. 308 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and it could. 309 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: And again, if you're going all in, because you know, 310 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: you get unlimited funds, and you came over here for 311 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: a check, and every time you show up, America writes 312 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: you that check. He's probably just looking at the politics, going, hey, 313 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: this is my meal ticket, Harris is the meal ticket. 314 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: Let's go help her win reelection or get elected, I 315 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: should say, And then I get the funds flowing for 316 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: another four years. And they obviously made that calculated decision. 317 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think it was really really foolish. 318 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: I want to move on also to something else that 319 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier, and it's happened today. Set the stage 320 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: for everybody in Congress and explain exactly what was going on, 321 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: and it dealt with presidential immunity. 322 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, Senate Democrats for two years have been engaged in 323 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: a relentless assault on the Supreme Court and trying to 324 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: undermine the Supreme Court. And so today the Senate Judiciary 325 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: Committee held a hearing on the Supreme Court's decision on 326 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 3: presidential immunity, and the whole purpose of the hearing was 327 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: to say that the Supreme Court decision is ridiculous, that 328 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: it's out of bounds, that it basically said Trump is 329 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 3: a king, that he's unaccountable, that it's some you know, 330 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: bizz our decision, and they're trying both to attack Trump 331 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: and to delegitimize the Supreme Court, and and and so 332 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: among the witnesses testifying was was Michael Mucazy, who was 333 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: the former Attorney General of the United States under George W. Bush, 334 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: and he was a federal judge for nearly twenty years 335 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: before that, and he was one of the witnesses, and 336 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: and so I took the opportunity to actually question the 337 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: former Attorney general and to lay out the the utterly 338 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: false narrative the Democrats were putting forward. Give a listen 339 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: to my questioning of of Attorney General mucasey. Thank you, 340 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: mister Chairman. The nub of the Democrats argument today is 341 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: that the concept of presidential immunity is somehow unprecedented, is 342 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: somehow remarkable. That claim is utterly ahistorical and disconnected from 343 00:19:54,200 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: the entire constitutional history of the Republic. General Mucasey twenty 344 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 3: twenty three. 345 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: How many times has the President of. 346 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: The United States been indicted Dohn before twenty twenty three? 347 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: How many times has a former president of the United 348 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 3: States been indicted? None? In the last two years. How 349 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: many times has President Donald J. Trump been indicted? 350 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Four times? I believe. 351 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: Now many presidents of both parties have engaged in controversial actions, 352 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: and yet none of them have been indicted. 353 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, General mckaysey. 354 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 3: If a private citizen were to erect an internment camp 355 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: and to forcibly kidnap American citizens, to single them out 356 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: because of race, and to imprison them based on their race, 357 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: would that private citizen be subject to criminal prosecution. Would 358 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: when President Franklin delan Or Roosevelt did the exact same 359 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 3: thing and erected Japanese internment camps, was FDR prosecuted. Let 360 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 3: me ask you similarly, if a private citizen were, say 361 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: to detonate a nuclear weapon over a city and kill 362 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: over one hundred and forty thousand people, and then if 363 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: that private citizen a few days later detonated another nuclear 364 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: bomb over another city and killed seventy five thousand people, 365 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: could that private citizen be criminally prosecuted? He would? Was 366 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: President Harry Truman prosecuted for detonating nuclear weapons over Hiroshima 367 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 3: and Nagasaki? 368 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: He was going, all right, how about this? 369 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: If a private citizen launched a weaponized drove and killed 370 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: the United States citizen, could that private citizen be criminally prosecuted? 371 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: He would? 372 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: Was President Barack Obama criminally prosecuted when he killed United 373 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: States citizens using drones without notice and without due process? 374 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: He was not? 375 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Although as far as due process is concerned, I believe 376 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: the comment of my successor to that question was that 377 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: anala'lacky got quote all the process. 378 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 3: That was necessary. Well, although I suspect he might disagree 379 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: with that assessment, were he able to present his case? 380 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Right? 381 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: All right, Let's contrast that with the rules that govern 382 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: other federal officials. You were a judge for nineteen years 383 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 3: as a federal judge, did you have immunity from your 384 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: official acts for my official act? Yes? Do federal prosecutors 385 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: have an immunity from their official acts? They do? Now, 386 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: the distinction between official acts and personal acts is not 387 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: a terribly shocking distinction. Under the decision of Trump versus 388 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: United States, if any president walks onto the son of 389 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: the sidewalk and just shoots a citizen, is that president 390 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: libel to be prosecuted? 391 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: He is? How about this? 392 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: If a president steals funds from his campaign, does that 393 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: president face criminal liability? 394 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: He does? How about this? 395 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: If a president sexually assaults let's say an intern in 396 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: the Oval office, is the president subject criminal prosecution for that? 397 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 3: He could be? So that distinction, again, is not a 398 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: shocking distinction. The founding fathers vested the executive power in 399 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: a single president of the United States. What we have 400 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: seen in the last two years is we have seen 401 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: Democrats deliberately weaponizing the Department of Justice and our legal 402 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: system to target their political opposition. It is not an 403 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: accident that every indictment against President Trump was brought by 404 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: a Democrat and was brought after he announced his campaign 405 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: for president of the United States. Understand the target of 406 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: those indictments was not ultimately President Trump. It was the voters. 407 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: It was prosecutors who were terrified that the voters would choose. 408 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: To re elect President Trump. 409 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: One of the great things about the United States is 410 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: we're not a been out of republic. Since two thousand, 411 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: the nation of Pakistan has had six former prime ministers 412 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: prosecuted and convicted. Brazil has had three former presidents arrested 413 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: and imprisoned. Last year, Nicaragua and President Daniel Ortega arrested, charged, 414 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: and imprisoned forty political opponents. General mc caasey u are 415 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: Attorney General of the United States. Is it the proper 416 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: role of the Department of Justice to prosecute and target 417 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 3: the political opponents of whoever happens to be President of 418 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: the United States. 419 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: It is, most assuredly not, thank you, he says. It 420 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: most certainly is not. 421 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: But the reality is Donald Trump keeps getting attacked by 422 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: the left, and they keep trying to lock up their 423 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: political opponent. 424 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's exactly what they're doing. And their claim 425 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: that that that that the ruling that a president can't 426 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: be criminally prosecuted for his official acts is contrary to 427 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: the law. It's what's why I use the examples I used. 428 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: It's why I use Look, the Japanese and Tournament camp 429 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: presidents can do a lot of things in exercising their 430 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: official power that ordinary citizens cannot. And we would want 431 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: our commander in chief. Our commander in chief can send 432 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 3: our troops into combat, can can use lethal force, and 433 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: they do regularly, and and and so the Supreme Court 434 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 3: naturally said, well, we don't want a situation where each 435 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 3: new president who comes in the first order a business 436 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: is let's criminally prosecute the last guy for the things 437 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: he did as president that I disagreed with. 438 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: And so. 439 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: You know, the hearing was really a dog and pony 440 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 3: show by the Democrats to mischaracterize the Supreme Court decision. 441 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: So I thought it was important to explain the actual 442 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: law in the real context. 443 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you another question about this. 444 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: Will there be a correction? I mean, if Donald Trump 445 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: is the president next time, will there be a correction? 446 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: Or once the cats out of the bag. 447 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: Is there any way of getting it back to where 448 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: we were before as you described it twenty twenty three. 449 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. 450 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 3: I certainly hope we are not in a world where 451 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: we are a banana republic where it is routine to 452 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: prosecute your predecessors. I don't know, but I do think 453 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: the Democrats have gone down a road that it's very 454 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: hard to turn around and come back from. 455 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is to be very very tough, to put 456 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: it mildly, to turn this thing around. And I think 457 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: once they realize they can do this, I don't see 458 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: Democrats being responsible moving forward with it. That's my biggest concern. 459 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: So is there anything we can do to protect former 460 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: presidents or it is something need to change with the law. 461 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: And Look, the biggest thing we can and should do 462 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: is re elect Donald Trump as president. The elections have consequences. 463 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 3: We're six weeks away from election day. The outcome of 464 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: this election matters immensely.