1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: It's been a full year of the Carol Markowitz Show. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm so happy and honored for every single listener. I'm 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: also so grateful for iHeartRadio and for the Klay, Travis 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton podcast network for giving me this opportunity. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know if this show would work. It's not 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: news of the day, it's not about politics. I described 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: this podcast as asking political people non political questions, but 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: it's also a show about living better, learning from other people, 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: taking good advice. And look, some episodes do veer straight 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: into politics, and there's just no stopping them. A lot 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: of people are just used to offering their opinion on 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: what's going on and are confused when someone asks questions 14 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: about them personally. I get that, so we do our 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: best to keep things not quite politics focused, more personal 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: here and just to hope for the best. This show 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: has been doing a million downloads a quarter, and that 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: is just wild to me. 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: I've had people who have been listening to me since. 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: The first episode and always offer feedback. I really love that. 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I love hearing from listeners in general. I got a 22 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: bunch of mail recently about the dating episodes. I love 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: getting the questions, and I also love getting the advice 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: that people want to share. If you've got thoughts, drop 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: me an email Carol Markowitz Show at gmail dot com. 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: K A R O L M A R K O 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: w I c As and Charlie Zas and Zebra Show 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. For season two of the show, 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: I've switched up some of the questions based on your suggestions. 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I actually switch one question, dropped one question, and kept 31 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: one question. I'm no longer asking about our largest cultural problem, 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: but more widely what the guest worries about could be 33 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: personal or it could be cultural. I've dropped the question 34 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: about whether the guest feels like they've made it. I've 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: added a listener suggested question about advice the guest would 36 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: give their sixteen year old self, and I've kept the 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: last question asking the guests to offer a tip to 38 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: improve the lives of our listeners. Lots of people said 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: they found that one useful, and I love being useful. 40 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to season two of The Carol 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: mark Wood Show with all of you, Thank you so 42 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: much for listening. Coming up next and interview with buck Sexton, 43 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: my very first repeat guest. 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: He was also my very. 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: First ever guest on season one of this show. We'll 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: hear from buck Sexton after the break, but first I'd 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: like to talk to you about my friends at IFCJ. 48 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: October seventh was the one year mark of the worst 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: massacre of the Jewish people since the Holocaust. Twelve hundred 50 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Israelis were murdered and more than two hundred and fifty 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: taken hostage. The war in Israel rages on today. 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Hi, and welcome 69 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: My guest today is. 71 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton of The Clay and Buck Show, and I'm 72 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: so happy to have you on. 73 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: Buck. 74 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, Carol. This is exciting. 75 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: I'm very honored that I was the first guest, and 76 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: now the end of year one, I am back here. 77 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: So at least I got I was able to stay 78 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: in the roster. 79 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: That's right, I mean a big deal here. 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kicking off season two of The Carol Markowitz 81 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Show on the Clay, Travis and Buck sex podcast Networks. 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: So I've loved last year. I've gotten to talk. 83 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: To so many interesting and cool people. I have to 84 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: tell you that your interview was the one that gets 85 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: mentioned to me the most, and we'll get to that later. 86 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: It's the last question that I ask about better living 87 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: that so many people are like, you know that interview 88 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: with Buck Sexton, Really I started doing what he's ingested. 89 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: And again I'll talk about. 90 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: It in a bit, but yeah, people really enjoyed that, 91 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: so love having you on. Also, when you were on 92 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: a year ago, you were in newlywed. You've now you know, 93 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: been married for a long, long, long time. Any marriage insights. 94 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: For us, I'm starting off. Wow, we're going right into. 95 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: It, right into it. Yeah, you know, people love to 96 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 2: hear about this kind of stuff. 97 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: You know, Honestly, the nothing about it has been a 98 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: surprise to me. And I think part of it is 99 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: everybody has the model for what they think marriage will 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: be like that is just ingrained in their subconscious from 101 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: their own parents, right, And you know, maybe there's things 102 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: to learn, not just things to emulate. But and I 103 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: have parents who have been married now oh my god, 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: forty Oh I'm trying to do the mathem I had 105 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: forty six years I think. 106 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: And they are the cutest couple ever. 107 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: You Yeah, but my parents are married a long time, 108 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: so you know, I had a sense of it from that. 109 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: I would say that advice that I would relay that 110 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 3: was pure marriage advice. 111 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: That I got early on in the whole process was how. 112 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: You greet people really does matter, and it is memorable 113 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: and sets sort of the tone for the rest of 114 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: the conversation or the rest of the interaction. 115 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: But so you know, when your spouse comes home, or 116 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: you come home to your spouse, it's. 117 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: A kiss, a hug, a hug, and a kid. I 118 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: love you, I'm excited to see you. You know, what 119 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: are we doing now? 120 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: It's not. 121 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 5: In the couch you can talk, not coming in on 122 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 5: the phone like you know, doing this, you know whatever. 123 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: Like you come in. 124 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: The greeting matters and I find that that and we 125 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: and we both have a you know, we we agreed 126 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: on that kind of early on, like when we talked 127 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: about this, and when we're getting married, we're like, oh, 128 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: that's really good advice. 129 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: We were given to pre Kano, which is what Catholics do. 130 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're no, I didn't know. 131 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sort of a Catholic marriage. 132 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: I know about the yeah right, yeah, yeah, but it's. 133 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: A Catholic marriage preparation opponent, you know that you're supposed 134 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: to do before get married to churches. We did, uh, 135 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: and it was the I was some of the best 136 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: advice that we got on it. 137 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: So that's that's that was really good. 138 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that really has put us in good stead 139 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 3: and I just I don't know, I can't just overstate 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: the benefits of it. And by the way, it's true 141 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: for friends too. You know, it's true for other people 142 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: in your life when you see people. I mean, you 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: don't have to like hug and kiss everybody. That wouldn't 144 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: be appropriate. 145 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, well great, but I feel like you are. 146 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, you're always like heyy, 147 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: and you know, very very warm, and I think, yeah, 148 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: I always feel very welcomed by Buck Sexton. 149 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, my family are huge, like my mom and dad 150 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: argue over who's the bigger Carol Markowitz fan work, and 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: so you know, we are very excited and our group 152 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: of friends Carol it's like this, it's like the celebrity 153 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: has arrived that ever. 154 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: So it's very excited. 155 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: It's such a lie, you know, I think that that's 156 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: really sweet though. I'm a huge fan of all the Sextons. 157 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: And actually I wanted to talk to you about you 158 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: and your brother and Clay have started a coffee company 159 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: and I'm actually your. 160 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: Coffee company's biggest fan. I really am go ahead and. 161 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: Thinking right now. 162 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: My my manager, Craig knew that I was going to 163 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: be out in La where I am right now, which 164 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: why I kind of and he knew that I forgot 165 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: to bring my own I didn't bring my coffee bag, 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: but he lives here. 167 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: So so he has it at his house. So he 168 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: brought nice dot com in for me. You drink it, Yeah, 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: I love. 170 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: It well, So I think I've told you this, But 171 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: I was a instant coffee drinker. It was just it 172 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: was like no coffee was good enough to like not 173 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: just mix it in a cup and go on about 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: my day. And I have become And you know this 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: is not sponsored in any way. I just I love 176 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: Krackett coffee. I think it's so good and just it's 177 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: worth it to me to brew up a pot of 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: it and get my days started with it. 179 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: And I've just never felt like that about a coffee before. 180 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: I've been like, it's fine, it's fine, but how much 181 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: better is it than instant? Really? 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: Mason searched for many months to find the right people 183 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: to work with on the roasting and the and the 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: packaging side, and sourcing the right beans and using the 185 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: right blend. So he'll be very happy to hear this, 186 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: because I think people just think, like, oh, you just. 187 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: Find someone great? 188 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: Is it ording coffee beans, because obviously we don't have 189 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: a coffee domestic coffee production in the US. 190 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: And that No, it's actually really hard to find something 191 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 4: good who wants to work with you. 192 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: It's that was the first part of the process. So 193 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: I'm so glad we got a cracker coffee drinker that 194 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: makes Yeah. Actually, it's been fascinating after a decade of 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 3: being in the radio business as a talent who has 196 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: to speak about products, now to be a product owner, 197 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: I mean co owned, playing with Mason and trying to 198 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: go at it from the other side of the table. 199 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: It's like you see a lot of you know you 200 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: you obviously see things differently. You see the challenges of 201 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: how you you want to work with people, but you 202 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: have to make sure that it's a business and not 203 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: you're not hobby. 204 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: But part of it is having an alternative product to 205 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: kind of the mainstream products that we assume we're spending 206 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: all of our cash on leftist causes, right, that's. 207 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: Definitely what we own. 208 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: It's funny. I'm actually giving. 209 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm doing Bill Maher show tonight and I'm giving I mean, 210 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: my honorarium. 211 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's not I don't know if oh 212 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: my god, it's or how much. It's not not a 213 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 4: lot of money. It's a nice check. 214 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: I'm giving the Tunnel the Towers Foundation. I mean, I 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: just I think that they do such amazing work. And 216 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: it's interesting me because it's like a lot of people 217 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: on the right like that charity, but to me, it 218 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: is a totally American charity. It is not it is 219 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: not partisan in any way. But it helps heroes, first responders, military, 220 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: their families. And ten percent of profits from Crockett goes 221 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: to that. So you want Rocket to be one hundred 222 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: million dollar company and be able to send a ten 223 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: million dollar check, you know, it's amazing from this, we 224 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: want to be able to send a ten million dollar 225 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: check to Tunnel the Towers every year. I mean, that's 226 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: that's like our vision, that's our goal. 227 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: So one of the new questions that I have for 228 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: season two of The Carol Markowitz Show is and you know, 229 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: I had listeners suggest the questions and then I picked 230 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: my favorites. One question will stay from last season, but 231 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: two new ones. The new question is what advice would 232 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: you give a sixteen year old buck Sexton to yourself 233 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: at sixteen? 234 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: I think that the best advice that I could give 235 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: to a sixteen year old version. 236 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 4: Well, so there's the advice that I would give myself 237 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 4: yourself yourself. 238 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: And then there's the advice that I would give sort 239 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: of sixteen year olds, or broadly because I was a 240 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: little bit unusual for a sixteen year old and some respects. 241 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 3: That may not be a shock to people who are 242 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: familiar with me or my work or whatever, but and 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: maybe it's actually more and more one and the same. 244 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 3: I think it'd be good for me to hear it, 245 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: which is, you just want to take a long view. 246 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: When you're sixteen, a long view, right when when you're 247 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: fifty a long view is like, I don't know, like years, 248 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: twenty years, you know, when you're my age, when you're forties, 249 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: it's like and I'm middle age. 250 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: When you're sixteen, you want to take what you think 251 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: of as a long view on just everything, just everything 252 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: that you possibly like, just the I think the biggest track. 253 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: It's so tough to do. It's so hard it's seen. 254 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, no one told me that the biggest traps are you. 255 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: Are you popular at sixteen? Nobody cares? Are you considered 256 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: smart at sixteen? Nobody cares? 257 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 3: Are you considered you know, good looking or attractive at sixteen? Like, 258 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: no one really cares until you get into your twenties 259 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: and thirties. Nothing is going to be meaningful to your life. Really, 260 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: I'm talking about personal growth stops right. No one at 261 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: sixteen is doing the things that they will look back 262 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: on their life and be like, oh, yeah, like that 263 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: was really amazing, that was really important. 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: So I think you can. 265 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: I think that I would tell myself, and I would 266 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: tell any sixteen year old. Let you know, lay the 267 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: pressure off yourself, take the. 268 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: Long taking the long view. 269 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: I know it seems like it and it does require 270 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: discipline and it takes some sort of foresight, but it 271 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: also means you're not even gonna remember this stuff hey 272 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: when it matters like, you're not really who you are yet, 273 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: and so just enjoy each try to find what you like, 274 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: try to get better. You know, calculus is bs, it 275 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: doesn't you know what I like? 276 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: This is, but this is teenagers listening. Do not listen 277 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: to him. It's very important. 278 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: This is the point. If you're good at calculus and 279 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: you want to be pushing in these directions, great, then 280 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: that's an area for you. But you will not use 281 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: some of these things in your life. Don't stress out. 282 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: I'm not saying don't do your homework. Yeah, it doesn't 283 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: matter in any meaning. 284 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: Kids put so much stress. I'll give you another one. 285 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: Go to college where you want to go to college. 286 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: I went to Amherst, which in some of the like college, 287 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: there's university rankings, which is always like harm, I don't 288 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: know those college rankings. 289 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: Amherst is routinely for the colleges a top five school something. 290 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's Williams, amhers Swathmore. 291 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: Those tend to be the ones that are kind of 292 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: always trading off whatever I wish I had gone somewhere else. 293 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: Honestly, where do you wish you would? 294 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 6: Oh? 295 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: Man, I probably would have. I mean I almost went 296 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: to like Georgetown was the one that I was so close. 297 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 298 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: I went where I thought it was more academically rigorous, 299 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: without even really knowing what that meant. Instead of what 300 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: do I think I'm going to enjoy my time more 301 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: and have and it fits in with my conception of 302 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: how I want to spend my day to day as 303 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: an eighteen, nineteen twenty year old. 304 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: Right. 305 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: So, look, I had a good time at Emerson. I'm 306 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: not like, I'm not anti yes, sure, but I just mean, 307 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: you know, try to take the longer view. Understand that 308 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: a lot of things that stress you out at sixteen 309 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: are truly meaningless. 310 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Were you hard on yourself when you were sixteen? 311 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 312 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely that this is coming across here, Okay, I just 313 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure kids are hard on themselves anymore. I 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: don't know that that's still maybe I don't have a 315 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: six My oldest is fourteen. When no, we'll see what happens. 316 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: But they seem like they you know, self esteem is 317 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: really stressed in schools, so they seem like they're doing okay. 318 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: I mean so again I was in school. What I mean, 319 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: I was. 320 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: We're still going back over thirty years now that when 321 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: I was sixteen, which makes me feel really old, even 322 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: though a lot of people watching this on video at 323 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: least will be like. 324 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: He looks like he's twenty five. You really do, which 325 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: is fair? Which is I don't know what to say. 326 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, I'm forty gonna be forty three, 327 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: but but no, I yes, I look, that's the thing. 328 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: That's what I mean though, Like there's what I would 329 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: give advice to myself versus what I would sort of 330 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: how I advise other people who are sixteen but on 331 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: the college front, for example, And I tell you know, 332 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: we have some great neighbors Carrie and I do where 333 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: we live in in Miami, and become very friendly with them, 334 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: and they've got kids who are, you know, fourteen. 335 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: Sixteen around that age group. And the parents ask me 336 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: because I don't know, some people think I'm kind of wise. 337 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: I know, yeah you are, thank you, and they last 338 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: me things. 339 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: And I'll just say the When I was in school, 340 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: the ranking of your college was like it's either you're 341 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: going to go work at Goldman and make millions and 342 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: have an awesome life and be you know, just hugging 343 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: your beautiful wife on the beach and Southampton and every 344 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: or not right based on where you go school. But 345 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: I've learned as I've become an adult who actually has 346 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: seen life is I mean, I know schmucks who went 347 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: to Harvard, I know super stars who went to community college, 348 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: like it's just not this or some rough sorting of 349 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: academic ability that goes on, but it doesn't really you're 350 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: seeing this, by the way, with the huge surge in interest. 351 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: In SEC schools. Oh yeah, don't tell Clay this. 352 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: But like twenty years ago, if you were a good 353 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: student in New York City or I'm sure La and 354 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: some of the you know, Boston, you were not going. 355 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: To an SEC. If you went to an SEC school 356 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 4: from New York against you went wrong? Yeah you you 357 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: you were. 358 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: You were like a you were like a screw up 359 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: war party and go for That was totally shifting. And 360 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: now people are you know, University of Florida is like 361 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: an elite school. 362 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's hard to get it. I don't know. 363 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we hope our kids go to a University of Florida. 364 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: Right, But you look at these schools in the Southeast, 365 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: and I think that's just a function of people realizing 366 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: where do I want to be and get a. 367 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: Good education, not just like where do I fall on 368 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 4: this list? I mean, one of the funniest things I 369 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: could tell anybody who's like, what am I going to 370 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 4: do with my life? And you know, how am I know? 371 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: Where am I going to go with this is of 372 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: the people that I knew who were doing backflips because 373 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 3: they got recruited to go work on Wall Street when 374 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: they were a twenty two misery, they hated it, and 375 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: almost none of them lasted. Almost none of them lasted, 376 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: Like I mean, right, I mean, same things for lawyers. 377 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: You know, I know very few people who got into 378 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: like the best law firms that they were so excited 379 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: to go to and liked it and stayed it just 380 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: it almost never happens. 381 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny because I think 382 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: back to this and it's so much about where people 383 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: can make money at a young Like everyone wants to 384 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: have money at a young age. You have to also remember, 385 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: like money as a young single person is very you know, 386 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 3: you have very different needs in very different stresses. 387 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: You know. 388 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: I I enjoyed myself in my twenties and I was 389 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 3: making at the time what would be what was basically 390 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: like I think the average American household income, which was 391 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: like forty thousand dollars a year, and you know in 392 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: New York City, that wasn't you know, I was working 393 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: for the government. 394 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't a lot of money at all. 395 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: I had peers who were like, I just got a 396 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars bonus. So I'm like, I just my 397 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: my all in. So I had friends in my early 398 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: twenties who were making and a lot of them, by 399 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: the way, not just like two who were making three 400 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 3: four times as much money as me. Right off the bat, 401 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: and again to my point about long term versus short term, 402 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: nobody cares, right, nobody cares. 403 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: You're not like, how much were you making out of college? 404 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: Right? 405 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: Exactly how much you're making at college doesn't matter. You're 406 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: not rich because you made one hundred and sixty grand 407 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: one year, and this is your life. The other thing 408 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: I've realized is. 409 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: Maybe excellent, this is really I love all of this, Like. 410 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: Oh really, oh keep going? 411 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well as you can say. The other thing 412 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: I realized is your goal and achievement. Obsession is a 413 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: trap a goal or an achievement that you want, whether 414 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: it's to be rich or to be you know, to 415 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: have a great physique, or to be super successful. 416 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: In your field. 417 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: That is a guide for how you set up your 418 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 3: day to day life. Your day to day life is 419 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: everything right, meaning you want to be you want to 420 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: be in a position where you are growing, where you 421 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: are enjoying yourself, where you are challenged, but you are 422 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: comfortable enough that you can have moments of happiness. And 423 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: you want to set up that matrix of your day 424 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: to day. And so this is kind of the. 425 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: Anti I want to go work at. I was gonna 426 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 4: say Lehman Brothers, but that was my day, right. 427 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: People are like, I want to go work with Lehman Brothers, 428 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: but not so much. Yeah, not so much anymore. But 429 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, okay, do you want to spend a few 430 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 3: years of your twenties? For some people, the answer is yes, 431 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: do you want to send a few years of your 432 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: twenties legitimate working eighty hours a week gaining By the way, 433 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: for the women who did it that I knew they 434 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: all of course, because you're at a desk and you're 435 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: eating like crap Chinese takeout food, right, like, you know, 436 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: gaining weight, not getting sunlight whatever, so you can you know, 437 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: make six figures when you're this stuff does not matter. 438 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Buck Sexton. 439 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: And it could all fall apart so fast, I mean, 440 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: you're leaving. 441 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: Example is a very good one, and we just watched 442 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: anchorment not Inchorman. We watched Telladega Nights with the kids recently, 443 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: and the guy in the movies like, oh, I want 444 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: to get in on this Haliburton stock. You know, it 445 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: just it could all end tomorrow. 446 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 447 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't last forever anyway. And yeah, if you're living 448 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that way at twenty two, you're probably. 449 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 2: Doing it wrong. 450 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: It's funny, you know, Carol, there was this, I really 451 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: would say a year ago there was this peak of 452 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: these podcasts and they're all it's extra points if you 453 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: have a British accent, right, that means you're smarter on 454 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: a podcast for sure. Right, I have a question to 455 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: ask you, But they would have you know, they'd talk 456 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: to all these different uh you know, alpha CEO guys 457 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: when they would ask them. 458 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: And this is true, I've heard that. 459 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean I could think of like ten different podcasts 460 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: where there's been a version of this same moment. You know, 461 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: they asked some guy who's made you know, five hundred 462 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: million dollars two billion whatever it is, right, like astronomical 463 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: riches and run some huge company or built some huge company. 464 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: They say like, what what do you think about and 465 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: what are you most proud of and you know, you 466 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: know what they all say, family, my family. Yeah, and 467 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 3: if they have a regret, you know what the regret is. 468 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Well, not enough time with my family to amit. And 469 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: so obvious. 470 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: It's so obvious. 471 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: And this is great for people to hear though, because 472 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: this is what I mean about your day to day. 473 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I mean, I turned around the 474 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 3: other day and I and I told Carrie, uh, who's 475 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: my wife or anyone in the audience who doesn't know. 476 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: It was just wonderful, thank you. She is really great. 477 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: She's really great. And and I I turned on we're 478 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: talking to something. 479 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 3: I don't even know how it came up, but we've 480 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: out like some friend of mine or some guy I know, 481 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: like just that you know just actually is like a 482 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: friend of a friend. And we were like, well, like 483 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: that guy's you know guys, I didn't know he sold 484 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: this company for like three hundred million dollars and and 485 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: you know he's got all these fancy cars and all these. 486 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 4: Houses and everything. Can I turn around. 487 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: It's like, honestly, if I swear to you, if we 488 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: had a billion dollars tomorrow, I wouldn't get a different. 489 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 4: Car, right, happy with the car we live in. Yeah, 490 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 491 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 6: I would like, I'm there's like, what there is a 492 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 6: level where yahminished returns you have what you need and 493 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: I mean to me, it's just kind of funny when 494 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 6: I hear people that have and because because again this 495 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 6: is about like the goal and the short term long term, 496 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 6: h you have this idea that oh, if I get 497 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 6: to and this is what I mean by the goal, 498 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 6: can become the enemy of what matters, which is your 499 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 6: day to day life. I'm going to mortgage my twenties, 500 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 6: thirties and maybe even my forties so that I can 501 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 6: be a tech a tech billionaire, right Like, let's say 502 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 6: that's your mindset. And I don't know, I've come across 503 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 6: a lot of younger people who that's really and even 504 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 6: more than that, by the way, it's I want to 505 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 6: be a YouTube star. 506 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the definitely the hot thing right now. 507 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: I want to make thirty three. 508 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: Well, okay, you know you're going to spend a lot 509 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: of time making content. 510 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: Do you like making content? You're going to have people 511 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 4: that don't like what you're doing. 512 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: It's going to be frustrating, It's going to take years 513 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: you know, you're you're also taking a risk of not 514 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 3: of not doing other things, learning other things that you 515 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 3: have to take a I think a broad spectrum view 516 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: of what you're doing. But if that makes you miserable, 517 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: even if you wake up at forty or forty five 518 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: and now you do have whatever it is, like you 519 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: do have the million dollars of stock in the Lamborghini, 520 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: you know, or you have ten million followers on YouTube 521 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: or something? 522 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: Were you happy to get there? 523 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: Right? 524 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 4: Was it? Happiness? 525 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: Is? 526 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: This is all so deep too? 527 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Like yeah, this is you know, I think that you 528 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 1: might not be and I think people think that they 529 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: automatically will be. 530 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: Yes this, But this is what I mean by people 531 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 3: I'll be happy when you know people call it. I 532 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: think people call like if then thinking or when if 533 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 3: thinking or whatever. It's you know, if I get this, 534 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: everything will be worth it. If I achieve the following thing, 535 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: all the sacrifices look to get places, you have to 536 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: make sacrifices. 537 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: Like one of the things I tell people media now is. 538 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: If I knew how hard it would be to get 539 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: to a place where I am happy and comfortable with 540 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: my media career when I started it, I probably would 541 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 3: have gone and taken a job like McKenzie or something, 542 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I actually got on 543 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: this like escalator. It was kind of like once you're 544 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 3: on it, you're in it. You just kept going. But 545 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: if I knew what it was actually going to require, 546 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I've managed to make a career 547 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 3: in conservative media. I've never been paid a dollar by 548 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: Fox News in my life. 549 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: Now that's fine, pretty unusual. 550 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: That's fine, But you know, but I just bring up, 551 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: like if you told me that when I started, I 552 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: forget it right, I'm never going to make a dollar 553 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: from Fox ever. Like they're never going to literally pay me. 554 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: It's not a contributor or anything. I can't make a 555 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: living doing this. Well it turns out I can. But 556 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, this is what I mean by I liked 557 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 3: even when stuff was crappy and I was doing a 558 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: lot for free, this game that you and I are. 559 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: In, this which I actually think is a kind of 560 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: a thing of this thing that we do. 561 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 5: I like it the dealingites when I was getting abused 562 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 5: at CNN on air, not because you know they're so 563 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: good at arguing, but because you know, it's just like ah, 564 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: like chickens. 565 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: You know, squawking at you all once it's a mess. 566 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but I like, this is the 567 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: fight I want. 568 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 4: To be in, you know what I mean? 569 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: And that and that's really And it wasn't if I 570 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 3: take this abuse one day, I'll have my own show 571 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: at CNN or something. It was just like, I like 572 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: this right now, and I think I'm good at it, 573 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: and so I'm gonna. 574 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 4: Keep doing it. 575 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: Totally. 576 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 4: I think that for younger people thinking about what they want. 577 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: To do, do that it's not just people say pursue 578 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: your passion. 579 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no no, Like there are lots 580 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: of things. 581 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: There was a time when I was passionate about video games, 582 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: but like, how make a living playing video games? 583 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 4: Maybe? 584 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: Although now you never know, really nobody would watch you 585 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: play video games. 586 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: That's like a money making thing now, so. 587 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: Well yeah, so that's my My thing is is if 588 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: you really want to want to be where you want 589 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: to be in life. 590 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 4: And I see this across all my friends, all my colleagues, 591 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: what is your day to day? You know, do you 592 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 4: enjoy it? Do you find it productive? Do you find 593 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 4: it meaningful? 594 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: So the second question of my at one point no, No, 595 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: that was one question. Yeah, like we got to get 596 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: to like right, that's right. 597 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: My second, my second new question is what do you 598 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: worry about? Which I think goes well with this because 599 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think that you have to worry about something, 600 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: and so what is it you mean, as an individual 601 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: or as an individual? 602 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 2: What does what does book Sexton worry about? And it 603 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: could be anything. 604 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: My question last season was what do you think is 605 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: our largest cultural problem? 606 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: So it could be cultural or it could be you know, 607 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 608 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I definitely worry about my kids or different different things 609 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: on different days. 610 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: But I worry about what I call mass delusion. 611 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: So I worry about groups of people becoming deeply convinced 612 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: of things and mobilized behind things that are not only untrue, 613 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: but often anti true or sort of divorced from reality. 614 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: I think that is the biggest threat that human beings face. 615 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: I think that is the biggest challenge that we have, 616 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: and I mean I could go through. I mean, I 617 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: think all totalitarianisms, for example, are founded on delusional principles 618 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: of universal control and absolute power, which is just it's 619 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: not this is contrary to human nature, it's contrary to existence. Right, 620 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: So All of the worst things involve large groups becoming 621 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: certain that something is true when it is untrue. COVID 622 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: obviously is a huge example of that. 623 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think we just had a 624 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: real good example of that not too long ago. 625 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: And I think that this is this is what really 626 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: concerns me because also the ability to shape perception now 627 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: at scale, meaning you know, hundreds of millions. 628 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 4: Of people you couldn't even you know, Yeah, there's like 629 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: the printing press. 630 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: And then there's radio, and then there's these ways that 631 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: mass media have developed over the last hundred years. But 632 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: what we're in now is we alternate an alternate reality 633 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: of what is public consensus can be constructed very rapidly, 634 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: and by the time people even realize what's going on. 635 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: I think enormous damage can be done. I mean, I 636 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: do think COVID was, yeah, it's scary, a perfect example 637 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: of that. But I think there are other examples of 638 00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: it too. 639 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean think that the narrative that Donald Trump is 640 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: is hitler while we're coaling to it because it's so stupid. 641 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: This is really this is really bad. This is it's 642 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 3: bad because there are people who believe this stuff and 643 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: they that then they're kind of numb to all the 644 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: other arguments, facts, data, and discussion that I think can 645 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: lead to. 646 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: We end up arguing, you know, let's get rid of 647 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: the First Amendment because of what if you say something 648 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: positive about Donald Trump on social media? You know, they 649 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: end up having to go down this rabbit hole where 650 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: it has to support their delusion, and that. 651 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: Affects all of us. 652 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think we are also all kind 653 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: of becoming. I mean I used to love I mean, 654 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: you know, I did growing up. I read a lot, 655 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: but I watched a lot of particularly like HBO, and 656 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 3: like I love watching all. 657 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: I watched all these action. 658 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: Movies that were like made with small budgets and we're 659 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: not good, you know, Like I was a Dolph Lungdren fan. 660 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: And I don't mean Rocky four. I mean it's tougher, 661 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: Like nobody. 662 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: Saw that showed out sweet he. 663 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: Plays the Russian Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's 664 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: all I mean. I don't know. 665 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a thing that we used to watch 666 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: in these bad movies where it's like a human but 667 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: has like a chip in the brain and maybe some 668 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: metallic thing. And terminator is obviously the biggest example of this. 669 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: But like cyborgs is a big thing in the eighties 670 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: and nineties, we're all becoming these kind of human machine 671 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: hybrids where our in for like, we have access to 672 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: endless information, but we're also constantly being influenced by what's 673 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: really almost a second brain. Like you've never you know before, 674 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: if you wanted to find out a fact, if you 675 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: weren't encyclopedia, what are your Encyclopedia Britannica, And like, oh, 676 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 3: like is that really the like is the toad sloth really? 677 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: But you know, it's amazing on the one hand, but 678 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: on the other hand that you have all this information access, 679 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: but you also are so reliant on these machines now 680 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: that they are process they are creating our version of 681 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: reality in ways. 682 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: When somebody's like googled something and then they're like read 683 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: a book, you know, you just know they just learned this. 684 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: Information five seconds ago. 685 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Like when you see Twitter, like everybody become you know, 686 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: experts on whatever the latest thing is, Like, oh, it's it. 687 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: I've always known about this, this was like this and 688 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that you believe that is evidence that 689 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: you're stupid. We see that all the time, and that 690 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: is like they're they're part they think that that's part 691 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: of them. Their Google process is the information that they have. 692 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: It's also amazing. I went to a bookstore here in 693 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: La looking for a hard to find book on. 694 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: Ivan Ory von Pavlov for yeah right now. 695 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, they said they had it, they actually didn't 696 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: because it was so rare, like they hadn't even updated that. 697 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: The one copy they had a long time ago was gone. 698 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: So I'm like, of course, right, like you know, I'm like, oh, 699 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: I found that, but I went in there was I 700 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: was interesting. I'm a big fan of tactile books, like 701 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: physical hardtop. 702 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 4: I think everyone should have them in their home. 703 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: I think children should grow up reading still books, not kindles. 704 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: Not I read, that's fine, but you should have books 705 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: should be a part of it. There is something about 706 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: a physical It is an unbeatable technology for what it 707 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: is in some ways, having having books occupy physical space, 708 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: having uh you know, the cover design, and having in 709 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: your hands and that experience of I am reading and 710 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: it's not just green screens is all fast screens is 711 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: something else. I think it's really important. But it was 712 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 3: funny being in this bookstore because I mean, I am 713 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: in La to be fair, I look around. I'm like, 714 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: I'm looking at all these books. I'm like, has a white 715 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: guy ever written a book? Is there a white male 716 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: who has written a book? Because walking around this store, 717 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: I don't think so that's interesting to me. 718 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Pavlove book obviously was written by a 719 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: white guy, but they don't have it anymore. 720 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: Nope, Yeah, there was that. 721 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: So the last time you were on, I end all 722 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: my shows with the question of leave my listeners with 723 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the tip for them to improve their lives, and your 724 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: tip it wasn't then a groundbreaking tip. Sorry to say that, 725 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: but it was read before bed. 726 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 2: I think that. I mean I always read before bed. 727 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: I kind of fell off of that a little bit 728 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: when I got married, but I'm trying. 729 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get back to not scrolling before bed. 730 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: But a lot of people wrote to me and said 731 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: that it really did change things for them. Just the 732 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: decision to read before bed instead of getting on your 733 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: phone made a difference. So do you have a new 734 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: tip for us, You want to end us with a 735 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: new tip or do you want to reinforce. 736 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: The last one? 737 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I have to double down on the 738 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: read before bed is a fabulous and that actually I do. 739 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: That's where actually a kindle for me because if you 740 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: want to have the low light setting and everything, that's 741 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: you know. 742 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 4: So there's a play. I love my kindle. I'm not 743 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 4: like anti it, but I just also believe in physical. 744 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: Books, and I believe that people should have a bookshelf 745 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: in the home and that there should be books that 746 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 3: they have both want to read and have read that 747 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: are on that shelf, and the children should be familiar 748 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: with it. I did grow up surrounded by books and 749 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: bookshelves in New York, so I think that was interesting. 750 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: It worked well for me, so I'll tell you this one. Actually, man, 751 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 3: I'm trying to pick. 752 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: I have a few way I can't believe. 753 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 3: No. 754 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: I know, we were like it's like fifteen minutes over it, 755 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: but that's okay, that's okay. 756 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: No one really ever asked me my opinion on anything. 757 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 4: So this is such a new theck. It's always just like, 758 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: tell us what's going on in the news. 759 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: I to say that I get a lot of that 760 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: here because I get people on and they're like ready 761 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: to talk about Donald Trump or something, and then I'm like, so, 762 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, what kind of advice. 763 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Do you have for people? And they're like, wait me, 764 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: what you know? 765 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because I would actually love to like 766 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: both share and exchange insights with people out there more broadly. 767 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: But what I find is I actually get people who 768 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: are who are almost like taken aback by, like excuse me, 769 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: like we we how is Trump going to be calm. 770 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: On this election? Like stay focused? But but won't I'm 771 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 4: not allowed with some. 772 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: People come back anytime and you share all the thoughts 773 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: that you have, all. 774 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: Right, So can I can I kind of cheat and 775 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: give you a variant of the one I gave you 776 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 3: last year and then a totally new one. 777 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 4: So I'm kind of it's. 778 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: Your podcast network. You do whatever you want. 779 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 4: That's very kind of you, all right. 780 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: So the one thing I would tack on, because this 781 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: gets me heat and I'm not even going to explain, 782 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 3: get the TV out of your bedroom. Get the TV 783 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: out of your bedroom. I'm not anti TV. I love 784 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 3: great shows, that's fine. 785 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 4: Get it out of your bedroom. People, good old like 786 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 4: you're a newly wed, that's what I'm like, Well, you 787 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Yeah, I know what you mean. 788 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 789 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: But what you mean, get the TV out of your 790 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: bedroom full stop. Don't argue with me, just do it. 791 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: Move it to another room. Don't have a TV in 792 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: your bedroom. But the advice piece that I will give 793 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: because I'm tacking that onto part one of the. 794 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 4: Reading for you to bed. 795 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: Uh, and you're gonna disagree with me on this when Carol, 796 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: oh really, Oh, I love that. 797 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: You're gonna you're I might, I might trigger Carol Markowitz 798 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 4: on her own. 799 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 800 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: Comfortable footwear, it is, I mean, life changing. I do not. 801 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: Understand men and women wearing shoes that hurt their feet. 802 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: It SAPs your energy, It puts you in a bad mood. 803 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 3: It over the long term, it causes all kinds of 804 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: foot distortions. 805 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: Have you discussed this with Jesse Kelly. He's super into me. 806 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: I lovels. This is where he is so wrong. He 807 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 4: is he is like, yeah, a whole other stratosphere of wrong. 808 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: He got into my car and I had flats like 809 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: in the passengers, you know, on the floor of the 810 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: passenger seat, and he was like flats and I was like, no, no, Jesse, 811 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: only for driving, because. 812 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: I love heels. I love hot shoes. I hear you, 813 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: I really do. 814 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: I wear sneakers sometimes running around, you know, during the 815 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 1: day with my kids and stuff. But for nights out, 816 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: I love hot shoes and you cannot stop me. 817 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: So see, all right, I can't convince Carol. But to 818 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 3: the rescue listing, there there are happy mediums. You want 819 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: to have comfortable feet the uh. I mean, one one 820 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: of my experiences in New York that I lived through 821 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: so many times before I got married was I'd be 822 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: on a date and it was going, well, you know, 823 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: you're a dinner. Usually you throw the standard in New 824 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 3: York as your dinner and then you can drinks efforts 825 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 3: because you could walk across the street or you know, 826 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 3: it's New York right there. 827 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you know this, but for people listening, uh, 828 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 4: and they'd be like, like, we. 829 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 3: Take this AXI and I'd be like, we're gonna go 830 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 3: three blocks, Like we're gonna be three. 831 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: Blocks, okay, fair, you know. 832 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: But I also I have like shoes that I go 833 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: out in that I know are gonna be sitting shoes. 834 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm not walking into three blocks. I'm not walking anywhere. 835 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: I'm walking from the. 836 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: Car to dinner where I'll be sitting and then I'll 837 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: get back in the car when I know I have 838 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: to walk a little bit. I have comfortable heels that 839 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: I could walk in and I have and you know, 840 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: I yes, I reject your whole premise here, and you would. 841 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 4: I knew she would. 842 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 3: She has an amazing shoe collection, and I get it. 843 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: And I'm you know, and I know, especially with some 844 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: of the women. But I mean, I see women walking 845 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 3: around on these, like the stilts that they have, and 846 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 3: I said, and I'm like, I mean, look, I know 847 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 3: it looks nice is and lerogants to it, But okay, fine, 848 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 3: if you're at like a you know, if you're like 849 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 3: a block tie gala or a wedding or something, I 850 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 3: get it. But for me, fancy shoes is the way 851 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 3: I feel about neck ties only if I absolutely. 852 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: Have to, only silly. But no shoes are you know. 853 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring We're gonna bring Jesse Kelly on to 854 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: debate this with you and. 855 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: Tell you tell that let lanky son of a gun 856 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 3: anytime he wants to have the shoe throwdown, I'm here. 857 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: He's Buck Sexton, Clay Travis and Buck Section Show. Check 858 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: them out every day. 859 00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: They're so amazing. 860 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: You're awesome, Buck, Thank you so much for having for 861 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: coming on, for having this show on your network. 862 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 4: I really appreciate you brats on the podcast. By the way, 863 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 4: it is doing great and. 864 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: I know pretty us you see my internal numbers. 865 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulation. A lot of people listen. Very good stuff. 866 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, Thank you, thanks so much for joining 867 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marco which show. Subscribe wherever you 868 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: get your podcasts.