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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I hope you had a great weekend. You

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Speaker 1: remember the old show Wide World of Sports. That opening line,

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Speaker 1: the thriller victory in the agony of defeat. That's a

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Speaker 1: perfect tagline for the NCAA tournament. Oh, we saw the

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Speaker 1: thrill everywhere. Underdogs like ORL. Roberts Loyal of Chicago advancing

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Speaker 1: to the Sweet sixteen, North Texas, Ohio University, pulling off surprises,

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Speaker 1: and then the agony of defeat. The feeling many of

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Speaker 1: us had looking at our brackets after Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: Illinois lost. I was looking at some research here. Two

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Speaker 1: of the Big Ten teams that are out Ohio State

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Speaker 1: in Illinois played in that overtime thriller last Sunday. That

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Speaker 1: was the Big Ten Title Game. It's hardly a new

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Speaker 1: trend in the last five years in which an NCAA

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Speaker 1: tournament has been played. Of the ten teams to play

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Title Game, only one of those

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Speaker 1: ten got as far as the Elite eight that was

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Speaker 1: to the National Title Game, losing to Villanova. The other

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Speaker 1: nine all failed to reach the Elite eight, with four

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Speaker 1: of them failing to survive the second round. With a

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Speaker 1: year off, a lot of people have forgotten just how

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Speaker 1: great March Madness can be delivered in a big way.

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Speaker 1: It was great. I mean I have some I guess issues.

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Speaker 1: They didn't bounce around yesterday. They bounced around late last night,

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Speaker 1: but the afternoon I thought, that's what's fun when they're

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Speaker 1: bouncing around. By the way, full slate of games starting

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Speaker 1: at noon Eastern today, plan accordingly, But the energy is there,

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Speaker 1: the effort is there, and really there might not be

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Speaker 1: another sporting event where you have those intangibles at play.

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Speaker 1: Energy and effort they play a bigger role because talent

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Speaker 1: alone didn't guarantee you anything. Look at these teams have

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Speaker 1: been bounced and you get a wide contrast as styles here,

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Speaker 1: and there's little turnaround. Teams have to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to play a team that they may never have seen.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you think you're prepping for Texas and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you go, well, we should probably look

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Speaker 1: at Abilene Christian a little bit here, right, Nah, we're

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Speaker 1: then you have to play these teams that you probably

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Speaker 1: never thought were going to be there, and the results

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Speaker 1: have been as unpredictable as ever, And that's why we

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Speaker 1: love the tournament, even if entering the bracket contest can

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Speaker 1: be extremely humbling, but a lot of surprises there. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: and last night, over the weekend. Used to be Jim

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Speaker 1: Beheim could coach during the regular season, couldn't coach in

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Speaker 1: the tournament. Benn he won a national title that went away.

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Speaker 1: Now I think he can coach in the tournament. He

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Speaker 1: can't coach during the regular season because they barely get

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Speaker 1: and you go, oh, I'll be damn. You've made it

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Speaker 1: to the sweet six team. And you know, Jim Beheim

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Speaker 1: the sweet sixteen. Here's the Syracuse head coach. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to make the sweet sixteen. Look around, look at some

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Speaker 1: of the teams that are out. It's really hard to

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we went to fourteen or fifteen

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Speaker 1: was a great game, but contrasting styles and these teams

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Speaker 1: And you have your blue bloods or at least teams

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Speaker 1: excitement that you hear, you see, you feel, and even

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Speaker 1: the disappointment. But full slate of basketball games starting at

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Speaker 1: noon Eastern today, Mike Love and you got a pull

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Speaker 1: the poll question too? But first option, do you like

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Speaker 1: all these underdogs advancing? And I'm going to say no,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's a duty of the media to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we love all these underdogs. But the second my bracket

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Speaker 1: of all these underdogs. We all know it. We're duty

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Speaker 1: if everyone loves it. And he said duty twice. Um,

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Speaker 1: Baylor and Gonzaga are there. Those are the two best

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Speaker 1: get this happens every year. From the standpoint of we

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Speaker 1: then we go, okay, can we return to normal? Now?

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Speaker 1: Well what is normal? Now? Our world is not normal.

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Speaker 1: And now you're saying, hey, you're hermetically sealed in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: There's no home court advantage, you know, no time zone advantage.

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Speaker 1: emerges here. But you know, loyal is fun. I loved

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Speaker 1: That's a great mystery to me because I thought Oregon

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Speaker 1: more time, you know that Syracuse zone. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: somebody will eventually figure out that? Why isn't we figure

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Speaker 1: out the Syracuse zone during the regular season, but during

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Speaker 1: the tournament. No that Syracuse Zone. I was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, whatever, ad Syracuse Zone. By the way, Oral

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Speaker 1: Roberts has the leading score in the nation, in case

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Speaker 1: seven three d P Show email address DP at Dan

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Speaker 1: do you have, mclovin. So that was my first question.

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Speaker 1: This I have another really mean one. Why do we

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Speaker 1: overrate the Big Ten so much? Is it because those

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Speaker 1: schools are going to football? Because everyone in the media

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Speaker 1: country that not just those who went to Big Ten schools,

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Speaker 1: best conference this year. It wasn't these forty percent of

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Speaker 1: college basketball writers went to Northwestern. Okay, the other ones

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Speaker 1: went to Syracuse. But oh my god, I must closed

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Speaker 1: my Twitter account. But Syracuse was waiting yesterday. See that's

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Speaker 1: that's the worst part of March madness, when you hear

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Speaker 1: Syracuse wins, I'm gonna hear. Uh, I'm gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: Mike Tarico, Sean McDonough, Bob costas U. What else do

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of pub a couple of years

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Speaker 1: including Saint John's, which is, you know, pretty good job

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Speaker 1: Portermoser stick at Loyola for like a mark few, move forever,

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Speaker 1: what is your lifestyle. He's from Chicago unless it's the

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Speaker 1: atmosphere there. The only tricky part with something like that is,

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Speaker 1: hey you did it, Hey you did it again. Brad

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Speaker 1: Stevens took Butler to the national title game twice and

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Speaker 1: then he left to go to the Celtics. I don't

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Speaker 1: you have some magic like that, like Archie was at Dayton.

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Speaker 1: Dayton could have won the national title two years ago

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Speaker 1: you're gonna ride this and you get another job. Like Musselman.

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Speaker 1: Eric Musselman, he was at Nevada and then he goes

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Speaker 1: somebody reported that he was leaving, he was going to

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Speaker 1: take the Indiana job, and I went, he's coaching the

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. He's not coaching the Orlando Magic or sacrament

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, yeah, no, no, no, no no, Brad

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Speaker 1: Stevens is not taken it. First of all, he'd have

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Speaker 1: to leave the team. Now, yeah, I know he's not gonna.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to count the number of reasons

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Speaker 1: why Brad. I don't know. You know, my paler Mark

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Speaker 1: Titus was was kind of egging that's on on on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and I think he was having fun with them. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he was serious. So I don't know who actually,

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Speaker 1: quote unquote reported that, but obviously nobody who uh had

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Speaker 1: any real information. Now, will Brad shock the world? Like

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Speaker 1: you know, it's always possible, but I don't think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: We have a bet. I'm the only one who said

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Speaker 1: the following Rick Patino does not take another job in

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Speaker 1: his coaching career. Seth, I'm gonna have you on record,

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Speaker 1: do you want to go with the dan As or

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Speaker 1: you want to go with me? Well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who did who did? I'll tell you what I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who said what everybody, all of my

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Speaker 1: guys said that Petino was going to take another job,

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Speaker 1: and oh, you're right as usual as usual? Uh you are,

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Speaker 1: you are correct. I think Rick would have never left

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Speaker 1: Louisville if if that hadn't happened. You know what, if

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Speaker 1: anybody wants to hire Rick, they're gonna have to take

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Speaker 1: their university and physically move it to Wingfoot because that's

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Speaker 1: Rick's happy place. Okay, on the golf course. He's got

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Speaker 1: a membership at the club, and he's sixty eight years old,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna I own is perfect for him. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna blow that thing up because we're about to have

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Speaker 1: roster get and with transfers being allowed to change schools

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Speaker 1: without sitting out for a year. So when you talk

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Speaker 1: about the MAC, you know there's three or four good

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Speaker 1: programs in that league and everything else is a falloff.

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Speaker 1: So he could make that kind of an East Coast

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Speaker 1: version of Gonzaga, because he'll have if you give Rick

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Speaker 1: Patino just a little bit of a talent differential over

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Speaker 1: the rest of the league, obviously he's gonna blow it up.

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Speaker 1: Look what he did this year with it. They were

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Speaker 1: off for sixty eight days because of COVID DAN combined,

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Speaker 1: and he still got them to the tournament. I said

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Speaker 1: this last week to the Dan Ends. I think Patino

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Speaker 1: is one of the top five coaches in America. I

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Speaker 1: just think that he understands the game. He can beat

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Speaker 1: you with your team. He can beat you with his team.

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Speaker 1: He just has innate ability to be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the coach for every university or

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Speaker 1: for every fan base, but Patino can coach. We're talking

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Speaker 1: to Seth Davis, CBS Sports College Hoops reporter. Let the

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Speaker 1: audience know what to expect today since we do have

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Speaker 1: basketball coming up in about three hours from now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do well. To me the game of the day

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Speaker 1: seven ten CBS LSU and Michigan. First of all, the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten has not showed out. I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: like conference guy when it comes to the tournament, but

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Speaker 1: I know it's obviously a big part of the dialogue.

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Speaker 1: LSU is a really tough matchup for Michigan because I

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Speaker 1: do think that LSU has found another gear. They're long,

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Speaker 1: they're fast, they're athletic, and they're committed to defending, and

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Speaker 1: of course Michigan is without their second leading score now,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Livers, who is not only a really good score

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Speaker 1: three point shooter, he's one of their best defenders. He

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Speaker 1: and Franz Wagner. So you know, LSU's got three big

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Speaker 1: time scores in that one. And listen, everybody's on notice.

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Speaker 1: I mean Oregon, Iowa Oregons obviously, you know, tough to

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Speaker 1: get a read on them because they didn't play a

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Speaker 1: first round game. They've been up and down because of

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Speaker 1: pauses and injuries, but they are at full strength and

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Speaker 1: they can score the ball, and that's what Iowa likes

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Speaker 1: to do as well. And then you know, the nightcap

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Speaker 1: is going to be interesting to me. USC in Kansas

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Speaker 1: US has had a terrific year. They've got Evan Mobley.

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Speaker 1: But you know a lot of people go poor betting

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Speaker 1: against Bill self and the NCAA tournament, So I like

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Speaker 1: the Jayhawks in that one. It's great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that whole FBI probe a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago that was going to blow up college bounsketball.

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Speaker 1: That didn't blow up college bounsketball, right, what what exactly

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Speaker 1: happened or didn't happen where LSU and Arizona and Kansas

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Speaker 1: and it just kinda went away. Do you remember, do

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Speaker 1: you remember having me on when I wrote that tweet

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Speaker 1: that I got shredded for. So so it's parallel tracks.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the FBI track, where you had prosecutors

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Speaker 1: in New York and FBI folks listening to low level

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Speaker 1: scam artists trying to, you know, make a fast buck

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Speaker 1: here and there, saying, oh, I got this guy, I

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Speaker 1: got that guy, I got self. I'm talking to Miller

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Speaker 1: and they thought they were telling the truth, so they thought, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's move in on this guy, and they're gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna flip on the guy he's talking to and guess what,

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Speaker 1: he was full of it. The separate track is the NCAA,

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Speaker 1: which now has fresh evidence to uncover, and it takes

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Speaker 1: a while because they were not allowed to start investigating

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Speaker 1: these cases until all of the legal stuff was done.

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Speaker 1: They told them, hey, you can't do anything, so they

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Speaker 1: have to go back and re enter it. Now they

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Speaker 1: can use the evidence from the trial. Then they have

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Speaker 1: to go back and reinterview everybody, and this stuff takes

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Speaker 1: a while then you have the pandemic pushing everything back.

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Speaker 1: So within the next year a year and a half,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see these decisions come down. But if you

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Speaker 1: notice Dan, they're gonna aside from Will Wade, is the

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Speaker 1: only one who's like directly implicated potentially everything else, like Arizona,

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Speaker 1: Sean Miller. This is head coach control. This is the

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Speaker 1: NCAA saying well, you didn't do any of this or

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Speaker 1: we didn't catch you doing any of this stuff, but

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Speaker 1: you are responsible for what happened. So that's how they're

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Speaker 1: going to penalize these things. And the last thing I'll

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Speaker 1: say about it is the most interesting one is the

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Speaker 1: Kansas case, because it's one thing for Sean Miller to say,

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Speaker 1: your two assistants broke these rules and therefore you're responsible.

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Speaker 1: In the Kansas case, it's like this guy from the

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Speaker 1: sneaker company that you have a contract with did all

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Speaker 1: this stuff, and you are responsible because he is technically

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Speaker 1: classified as a booster. That's never been done before. So

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Speaker 1: eventually it'll all wrangle out. But this whole thing about

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Speaker 1: you know, all these head coaches are on the line

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Speaker 1: saying I'll pay him this amount of money that's not

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Speaker 1: where the action is. The action is an agents. And

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Speaker 1: in this kind of underworld, and the head coaches, you know,

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Speaker 1: for better or ill than there's a lot of both.

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Speaker 1: Is they're kind of seen Ollevil here in Elievil. They

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. They don't care. They just want

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Speaker 1: the player who's in the most trouble will wait. We'll

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Speaker 1: wait because he's on now again, it's like coach, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's use head coaching. I mean, he's he's on the

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Speaker 1: line saying I made him a strong ass offer, right,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's saying, well, we all know what that means.

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Speaker 1: But I always go back to Tom Cruise's line in

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Speaker 1: a few good men, don't tell me what I know,

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Speaker 1: tell me what I can prove. So when Kurtis Towns

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Speaker 1: in Arkansas says about Zion, Wimson says, well, we'll do

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Speaker 1: whatever we got to do it to get here. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know what that means, Well, what can you prove

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Speaker 1: that he did? So it's a much higher bar. Look

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Speaker 1: all these all these guys, and you know what's a shame, frankly,

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Speaker 1: is that Patino is the only one who lost his

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Speaker 1: job and he was never implicated. It was because of

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Speaker 1: everything else that had gone on at Louisville. So it's

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Speaker 1: all shady. It's always say it is. It's a shady

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Speaker 1: world and you're either in it. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: be a college basketball coach, you are in this world

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Speaker 1: and there's mud flying around everywhere and it's going to

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Speaker 1: get stuck on you. That's what it is. Thank God

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Speaker 1: for the games. Have fun today. Thank you, Seth, and

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Speaker 1: keep dancing. Okay, keep Dan. I love you, I love

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Speaker 1: thank you. That's Seth CBS Sports College Hoop Analyst and

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Speaker 1: he's also managing editor of college Basketball for the Athletic

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Speaker 1: and a part time to answer. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

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Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to

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00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you can find

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us

577
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. We make way for Cameron

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Speaker 1: as Loyal to Chicago Beach number one Illinois on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Next up is Oregon State, my Ramblers. Cameron joining us

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Speaker 1: now on the program. Cameron, Congratulations, how you feeling? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having me on. I like the

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Speaker 1: little nicknacks. We got here in the front. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: look at him. Thank you. How long we've been working

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Speaker 1: on the mustache. I don't know, it's been like it's

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Speaker 1: been about eight months and a quarantine thing kind of

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Speaker 1: started in quarantine and just kind of let let it run,

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Speaker 1: you know, and now people are falling in love with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's not to fall in love with? Does a coach

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Speaker 1: give you grief about it? Uh? No, No, not really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, uh, back in my freshman year, I was

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Speaker 1: rocking the Mutton shops during during the final four runs.

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Speaker 1: So now now I switched it up and went with

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Speaker 1: the mustache. So I don't know. It's just something fun

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Speaker 1: to do and just kind of adds to the to

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Speaker 1: the lore, I guess the aura that you are. Um,

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Speaker 1: if somebody hasn't seen your team play, how would you

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Speaker 1: describe your style? Uh? Together, chemistry, you know, we like

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Speaker 1: to play together and play the right way. Defense, tough, physical, Um.

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Speaker 1: We talked a ton about physicals out following. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think I think we do a really good job of,

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Speaker 1: you know, staying on top of teams strengths and trying

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Speaker 1: to limit their strengths. And I think we did a

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Speaker 1: great job against that the ALIGNI this weekend, just trying

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Speaker 1: to take away one or two, you're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to take away their whole attack. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: they're too good. So we try to limit their their

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Speaker 1: use of ball screens. Um, you know, trapped io a

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Speaker 1: lot in the ball screen and um, you know, just

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Speaker 1: try to work not to let big Kofe try to

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Speaker 1: catch the ball in the middle there. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: it breaks down, but uh, you know, we just we

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Speaker 1: just gave our all. Do you feel like underdogs? You

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Speaker 1: know that's that's the funny thing. Um, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen we kind of you know, snuck up

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Speaker 1: on some people and people were like, oh, we don't

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of underestimated us and stuff. But now, no,

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Speaker 1: it's no secret. You know, no one's no one's underestimating us.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, when you play the Ramblers, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you know, you're in for a good game. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know we we I don't really think we're underdogs anymore.

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Speaker 1: You know, people are starting to take notice of us,

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Speaker 1: and especially you know, all those feelings that people had

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, now they're they're kind of coming back

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Speaker 1: to life, and I'm just happy and that we proved that,

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Speaker 1: you know, that that year wasn't a fluke. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: you hear about so many teams like that coming out

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Speaker 1: and and um, you know, you have a Final four run,

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Speaker 1: then you kind of just fade off into into the

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Speaker 1: college basketball team. But we've been able to sustain it.

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Speaker 1: How many scholders of offers did you have? I had

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Speaker 1: about like third thirty five scholarship offers coming out of

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Speaker 1: high school. Nothing nothing from the Power five though, So

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Speaker 1: definitely definitely kind of put a chip on my shoulder

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00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: for sure. And uh definitely, you know that's the same

635
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: with all these guys that you know, Cambell Loila. We

636
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: all kind of have that chip on our shoulder. Um.

637
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, personally, I felt that I could have played

638
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: at the at the highest level and um, you know,

639
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: but but I also wanted to go somewhere where I

640
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: was a fit, you know, so I could have I

641
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: could have probably I committed to Loila really early on

642
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: my career, in my high school career, before my senior year.

643
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: I could have probably waited and played my senior year

644
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: out and I probably would have got a lot of

645
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: offers just just you know, from big schools not getting

646
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: the guys that they wanted. But I wanted to go

647
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: somewhere where you know they wanted me and I can

648
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: make an impact, and um, you know it worked out.

649
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: How would you describe your style itself? Uh like my

650
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: play Yeah, my play style. Yeah. I mean I just

651
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, high IQ understand the game.

652
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna beat anyone with with blazing

653
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: speed or you know, I'm not gonna jump over anybody.

654
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: But um, you know, there's so many different ways to

655
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: play the game of basketball. Um, it's not all about

656
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: athleticism and speed and quickness. It's all you know, understanding

657
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: how other teams are playing, you know, understanding their coverages,

658
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: understanding what this guy doesn't like and what he does like. Um,

659
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, being able to play. I feel like, you know,

660
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: I hate to kind of toot my own horn here,

661
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: but I feel like, you know, I'm making other guys

662
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: better on the floor. You know, I'm attracting a lot

663
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: of attention. Um, setting dudes up. Um, you know, it's

664
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: definitely positioned list in my book. I mean, you know,

665
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm I'm listening as a center. But you know, for

666
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: me basketball, you got to be able to dribble, pass

667
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: and shoot. So um, you know, I've always kind of

668
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: been that way ever since I was a kid. I

669
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: was always kind of like dribbling and passing and stuff.

670
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: So you kind of remind me of the joker joking. Yeah, yeah,

671
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people are saying right now. Um,

672
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: obviously he can, he can. He's That's funny that you

673
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: say that because a lot of people are always you're

674
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: like the college joker and stuff. Man, he's incredible. Um,

675
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, I watch him. I watched him a lot, um,

676
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, and he is incredible. The way he shoots

677
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: and his touch is unbelievable. I mean, um, just the

678
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: way he passes. He's always thinking one or two steps ahead,

679
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: and that's something I kind of pride myself on, um

680
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: as far as you know, being able to see the

681
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: play maybe two three steps ahead than everyone else. But um, yeah,

682
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: he's incredible. He's having an MVP season right now. Yeah,

683
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: it's not a bad comparison there. Cameron Cameron Krutwig, the

684
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: loyal Chicago Center. I was told you didn't bring your harmonica,

685
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: which I don't believe for a second because you're trying

686
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: to focus on basketball. Yeah, you have a harmonica, don't you?

687
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: I do? Okay, Okay, well I was it's in my room.

688
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm so the WiFi here isn't the best, so I

689
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: had to come down to the to to another room

690
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: with like a wired connection. So I left a harmonic

691
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: come back in my Oh my gosh, I got to

692
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: tell me this stuff before I come on here. Fritzie,

693
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: I said to tell Cameron to bring the damn harmonic

694
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: with We threw it on him at the last minute. Okay,

695
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: Now you do love the same music as my booker,

696
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: Fritzie hall of Oates. Yeah, Billy Joe, Yeah, Billy Joe, Elton,

697
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: John Little, Rolling Stones, Leonard skynerd. Okay, so your go

698
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: to karaoke song is Oh, that's a tough one. Um,

699
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I think we were doing. So we went to karaoke place,

700
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: Um and me and my buddy on the team. We

701
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 1: sang Hello by Adele. That was that got the people

702
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: going a little bit. Me and my buddy Will who's

703
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: a walk on here? Can you give me just a

704
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: little can you give me just a little a rambler nation? Okay?

705
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: How about this? You love you love? Hall of Notes.

706
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: Fritzie is a huge Hollow Notes fan. What's your favorite

707
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: holl of Notes song? My favorite Private Eyes? But I

708
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: understand many many, Yeah, that's a good job. That is

709
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: a good choice. Okay, my dad's favorite. Alliight, Cameron, Fritzie's

710
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: gonna start and I'll do the claps. No, you gotta

711
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: give me just a little, just a little chaste for

712
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Rambler Nation. Here go on, all right, you can do it.

713
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not afraid of anything. Come on, okay,

714
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: all right, Fritzie, are you ready? I am? Okay, all right,

715
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: here we go. I see you, you see me, watch

716
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: you blow in the lines when you're making a scene.

717
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh girl, you've got to know what my head overlooks.

718
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: The senses will show to my heart when it's watching

719
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: for the lives. You can't say private watching you? They

720
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: see you? Oh bid and private eyes. That's good. That

721
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: is good stuff made my day. All right? Give me

722
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: the other thing. I hear you do a Will Farrell impersonation.

723
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: And Will Ferrell is watching the program right now. Oh man,

724
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: if he's watching right now, I love Will Farrell. Okay,

725
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Semi Pro is like the greatest movie of all time. Well,

726
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: I understand that, but Will Farrell's in our bracket challenge.

727
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if he picked you guys, but Will

728
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: watches every morning, didn't he didn't pick us? I don't

729
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know. Could you guys check and

730
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: see what up? Yeah? Can you pull up Will Ferrell's

731
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: bracket there and let me know? All right? So what's

732
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: your Will Farrell impersonation? From what movie? A semi pro?

733
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Okay for sure? Okay, um? There's so many good lines

734
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: I like. I like the part where Dukes Dukes has

735
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: got the big check and he's like Jackie's written in

736
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: glitter Man. He's like, I don't know what to tell you, Dukes,

737
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: M I want to find a bank with a big

738
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: check department. Can I just get like a normal size

739
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: jack Jackie? That's a that's the funny part. Or when

740
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: he's uh, when he's uh, what do you do? Dukes

741
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: nutting right now? Laying low like it? Where are you from?

742
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: Dukes slitting? New Chigan? Homegrown? Dukes is homegrown? Uh? Did

743
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: we find out? Did Ferrell pick loyalty? I don't want

744
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: to be the bear of bad news? Come on, well,

745
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: you know what he's regretting that he's got to be

746
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: regretting that. Now. Yeah, you guys did some damage to brackets. Like,

747
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: do you do you feel guilty at all that you

748
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: hurt some people's brackets here, Cameron, No, I don't feel

749
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: bad at all. I feel pretty good. Um No, I think, uh,

750
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, when we came into this, we wanted to

751
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: win games. You know, I think that every game that

752
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: we've we've played so far, we've played with that chip,

753
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: that edge on our shoulder. And when we've come out

754
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: and we've we've we've done it. Um, you know, we

755
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: all wanted that one yesterday. Um, you know, as soon

756
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: as we saw that, so we were at um we're

757
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: at the Indy five hundred Speedway for first selection Sunday,

758
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: and we we we saw the first two brackets and

759
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: we had, I feel like we're gonna be an eight

760
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: or nine. And then we saw Illinois as the one,

761
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: and we all just kind of looked and we like

762
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: before we even came, We're like, ah, here it comes,

763
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: here it comes. And then uh, you know, sure as

764
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: it is eight. C was loyal in Chicago and uh,

765
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: you know we not that we were circling that game.

766
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: You know, we always got to worry about that first one. Um,

767
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, but um when it when it came and

768
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: we beat Georgia Tech and and it was time for Illinois.

769
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, we really wanted that game, and um, you

770
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: know it's just a great game. All right. Can we

771
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: make a bet? Can we can we make a day?

772
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm allowed to bet. Oh no,

773
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, yep, yep, you're the grown up

774
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: in the room. Um, come on, can't get me in trouble.

775
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: When you beat Oregon State, all right, when you beat them?

776
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Now you want me to say, if well, we gotta

777
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: we respect everyone we play. Okay, if you beat Oregon

778
00:41:53,719 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: State next Monday, a week from today, Harmonic have a game.

779
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a game on Monday. We're gonna be

780
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: in the Elite eight. Then you have a game on

781
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Monday as well. Yeah oh damn sorry, Okay, how about

782
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: this because the game? Okay, I could skip it. Okay

783
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: now if oh you are kidding? Okay, yeah, if um

784
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: m m, so this is gonna be. I was trying

785
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: to get Will Farrell on, oh man, that I mean,

786
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: we could do that tomorrow. Okay, you just staying the

787
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: time and place. If if I get Will Farrell on tomorrow. Yes, Harmonica,

788
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: I will bring the harmonica out. Okay, let me see

789
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: what I can do, Fritzie, just you can just see,

790
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: just see. But I want you to focus on basketball today. Okay,

791
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Well today it was kind of like an off day

792
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: for us. Um just I mean we played two three

793
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: two games and three days, so you got home work

794
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: to do, Cameron. Oh, we're about that later. Fritzie reached

795
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: out to Will Ferrell and see if Will would like

796
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: to come on and we'll do our best. Cameron. All right, Hey,

797
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: you take care of your part of the this and

798
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: and we'll take care of our part of this, all right, Yeah,

799
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: all right, that sounds good to me. Ask him why

800
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: I didn't pick us in the brackets stuff. No, you'll

801
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: get to ask him, Okay, I'll ask him. Uh. Congrats,

802
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: great story again and uh and hopefully we'll get a

803
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: chance to talk to you. All right. Sounds good. That's

804
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on again. And go Ramblers, man,

805
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: go Ramblers, all right, Cameron Kruttwig, the loyal to Chicago

806
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: senior son, gotta bring you Sarmonica, Fritzie, kind of don't

807
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: you're supposed to lay out when you sing so then

808
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: he should have. I got so caught up in the

809
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: whole hale notesly, but I love what a personable kid.

810
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, this reminds you a little bit like

811
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: Fritzie singing with him is when I scored on Matt Stainbrook.

812
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: Not to pick it back to myself, but I get

813
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: a similar Matt Stainbrook vibe. The formers Xavier big Man

814
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: six eight could do it all. Yeah, there's a feel

815
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: good story. You scored on that six foot ten guy.

816
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: We'll probably haven't been seen since a long lucrative career

817
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: in Europe. Yes, remember we brought Matt Steinberkin after Xavier

818
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: was eliminated, and he showed up in full uniform. I

819
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,680
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820
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