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Speaker 4: micshots on a National Signing Day edition of Micshots. Do
Speaker 4: you don't realize today is the college national Signing Day.
Speaker 4: This is the day that high school seniors across the
Speaker 4: nation sign on the dotted line with the first of
Speaker 4: the three colleges they will attend the next three years.
Speaker 5: And they can't decommit after they sign. That's all I
Speaker 5: read about this morning.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: Two Missouri guys from this area de committed to A
Speaker 5: and M A M.
Speaker 6: Tatum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of.
Speaker 5: Course that's more money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all this will make you feel better, Mickey. I've
Speaker 4: got in front of me the Jacksonville State sightings and so.
Speaker 5: You got, you got.
Speaker 2: I was almost not listening to.
Speaker 5: Do you have el Corn?
Speaker 2: I can look up?
Speaker 6: Okay, what happened.
Speaker 5: If I had said el Corn instead of Jackson State.
Speaker 5: Would that have been funny? Well, it's the wrong school.
Speaker 2: It's more like a Corn.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, con Okay, all cons it's el Corn.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Corn.
Speaker 4: Okay, So that don't wind him up today.
Speaker 5: Please, do you understand that you're doing it? You get
Speaker 5: if you get the wrong school, you get the wrong school.
Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with Jackson State. As the
Speaker 5: court went back, I covered more Jackson Steak than you
Speaker 5: played there.
Speaker 2: All right, I was just I was really not listed
Speaker 2: today until you.
Speaker 5: Get your and don't make a mistake the rest of
Speaker 5: the week like Bill did yesterday. Okay, we don't have
Speaker 5: mistakes on this.
Speaker 6: Year, that's right.
Speaker 4: I did see Jacksonville State signed Austin Eckler's cousin.
Speaker 2: The white guy.
Speaker 7: He went to a black school, the white running back
Speaker 7: from bathroom.
Speaker 5: See you guys, you guys put a hex on him
Speaker 5: because he got hurt.
Speaker 2: He got hurt. Before we start in messing with you
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 5: It was after.
Speaker 6: You got the Mickey eggs.
Speaker 5: The cowboys were too powerful mon Clark. He might still
Speaker 5: be laying there after Clark hit.
Speaker 6: All right, we move on. We're moving on to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Do we have to do? We have to stuff all right?
Speaker 4: Well, makey it's a busy day because it's back to here.
Speaker 5: We have a one oh five press conference we can
Speaker 5: all attend. By the way, we got a two oh
Speaker 5: five practice and a three oh five press conference.
Speaker 6: You know what okay?
Speaker 5: Open locker, I mean open locker real Yeah, practice one
Speaker 5: hour sounds that way. It was going to be an
Speaker 5: abbreviated practice since they hadn't they got an extra two
Speaker 5: days this week.
Speaker 4: You know what else is happening?
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 4: So McCarthy's doing his press conference at one oh five
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 6: Practices at two o five.
Speaker 4: Okay. He's also on serious NFL radio at one thirty
Speaker 4: with his former quarterback Rich Gannon. I was driving in
Speaker 4: today and they were teasing the fact that Mike McCarthy
Speaker 4: is joining them at.
Speaker 5: We have to listen to them.
Speaker 4: At Kansas City when he was at Kansas City and
Speaker 4: with Schottenheimer. It's okay, he was at Gannaways at Kansas
Speaker 4: City and then he wound up being the NFL MVP
Speaker 4: with the Raiders after Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, anyway.
Speaker 5: Is that the one they blamed, uh the coach for
Speaker 5: changing the game plan? Before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: With the Raiders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, so macarthy, We're going to get a lot
Speaker 4: of McCarthy today, all right. Okay, so a little later
Speaker 4: scheduled in normal, And the reason for that is it's
Speaker 4: a different week, squeak, because it's a Monday night game.
Speaker 5: It's the many bye. They come off there as long
Speaker 5: as possible, that's right.
Speaker 4: That's why they do it in the afternoon today instead.
Speaker 5: Since they played two games in five days, and one
Speaker 5: them both after not winning for five and they're right
Speaker 5: back in the hunt.
Speaker 2: Right back. Well, come on, man, that's what it says.
Speaker 2: I got in the hunt. I'm looking at everybody here.
Speaker 4: Are you really?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they are back in the hunt.
Speaker 5: They have San Francisco in the hunt.
Speaker 4: At five and seven. Also, yeah, yep.
Speaker 5: So I went through everybody's schedule. Okay, seven teams have
Speaker 5: to fill three spots. Somebody's got to win the NFC West. Yet,
Speaker 5: somebody's got to win the South. We're going to give
Speaker 5: Philadelphia and Detroit the other two diss Okay, So there's
Speaker 5: seven teams they got. Everybody's got five games left to play.
Speaker 5: There's four fourteen games that these seven teams have to
Speaker 5: play against. Each other, so there's got to be fourteen
Speaker 5: more losses. Right.
Speaker 4: Wow, this is interesting, high level stuff.
Speaker 5: So see, I'm here, you're with me, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: So Washington's ahead for the third wild Card eight and five,
Speaker 5: Seattle's ahead for the West at seven and five, and
Speaker 5: then there's three six and six teams, and then the
Speaker 5: Cowboys in San Francisco at five and seven. So I
Speaker 5: figured out that there's fourteen games between those teams that
Speaker 5: have yet to be played. So somebody's got to lose, right,
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of losing that's got to take grice.
Speaker 2: And it will happen.
Speaker 5: So the advice to the Cowboy is just worry about
Speaker 5: yourself and win as many as you can.
Speaker 8: And the fact that you stay focused throughout all of
Speaker 8: this adversity. I think it's a testament to them, even
Speaker 8: though they're still not the team that they want to be.
Speaker 8: What you expect this time of year. If a team's
Speaker 8: going to make a move, you want them to make it. Definitely,
Speaker 8: you wanted to make it superbly, I guess, for lack
Speaker 8: of other words. In other words, don't make the mistake
Speaker 8: because you I'm sorry, don't don't look at playing a
Speaker 8: team and saying, well, they're just going to make more
Speaker 8: mistakes than we make. Right, we need to be a
Speaker 8: team that. Okay, from here on out, we need to
Speaker 8: be a solid team. We need to be a team
Speaker 8: that doesn't have many penalties, doesn't make many mistakes, not
Speaker 8: many turnovers. That needs to be our charge to ourselves
Speaker 8: from here on, because the games we've been winning is
Speaker 8: just because the other team was worse than we were.
Speaker 2: That's the way I've seen it. That's exactly what I mean.
Speaker 8: They tried to they tried to give us the game,
Speaker 8: but we tried to give them the game, but they
Speaker 8: refused it.
Speaker 2: They gave it back to us. That's the way that was.
Speaker 8: I want us to be a team at this point
Speaker 8: to where we're not making the mistakes. Right now, we're
Speaker 8: just making fewer mistakes than the other team. I'd rather
Speaker 8: we be a team that makes no mistakes and march
Speaker 8: forward with worried about just us and how we play,
Speaker 8: not how badly the opponent plays.
Speaker 5: So the Cowboys have two games against that group of seven.
Speaker 5: We got to play Tampa Bay and Washington. Now I
Speaker 5: know they got to play Eagles, but they're not in
Speaker 5: the discussion. I think if they win one more game,
Speaker 5: they clinch the NFC East or they clinch a playoffs playoffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they may need some helpful on those lines.
Speaker 4: Detroit tomorrow night plays Green Bay. What a nice way
Speaker 4: to kick off this weekend with that game. And Detroit
Speaker 4: can clinch a playoff spot with a win or tie
Speaker 4: tomorrow night. Right, Kansas City or Buffalo already clinched their
Speaker 4: division this past week.
Speaker 5: We just saw a crawler. So that was the earliest
Speaker 5: clinch five games to go.
Speaker 4: Since whenever Kansas City has clinched the playoffs. But they
Speaker 4: can clinch their division this weekend with a.
Speaker 5: Win, right, So none of that has anything to do
Speaker 5: with the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: Here's the other thing.
Speaker 4: When you're talking about now December football, I was just
Speaker 4: looking up. You want to be playing your best at
Speaker 4: the end of the season, yes, okay, you.
Speaker 5: Want to streak into the playoffs. Tom Landery used.
Speaker 4: To say, all right, so the Cowboys last year, what
Speaker 4: was their record after December first? Regular season record after
Speaker 4: December first? Four and oh they went no. Three and two,
Speaker 4: three and two. They weren't exactly streaking into the playoffs.
Speaker 4: And what happened in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: What were the losses though?
Speaker 4: Hey what it was Miami right? Or back to back
Speaker 4: Buffalo and Miami. Yeah, yeap so two teams both on
Speaker 4: the road, on the road, and they were.
Speaker 6: Opponents playoff teams.
Speaker 4: Right. In twenty two, after December first, the Cowboys were
Speaker 4: four and two losses that Jacksonville game on the road
Speaker 4: in overtime and Raysheawn Jenkins pick six and then well
Speaker 4: the last one was at Washington the last game they right,
Speaker 4: so scratch that they were four and one, okay, And
Speaker 4: in twenty one they were five and one after December first,
Speaker 4: with the only loss coming second to last week at
Speaker 4: home against Arizona twenty five two.
Speaker 5: I can't even remember that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of those weird games.
Speaker 4: So basically seven last three games, I'm adding it up
Speaker 4: the last three years in December in meaningful games. Take
Speaker 4: out that one that was a meaningless game at Washington.
Speaker 4: Twelve and four record for the Cowboys in December. Do
Speaker 4: you want to win seventy five percent of your games?
Speaker 5: So are all five games now in December? Is one
Speaker 5: in January?
Speaker 4: Well, and I'm not saying I don't the game in
Speaker 4: January this year, Yeah, there's one in January, the last one.
Speaker 4: But I'm talking, yeah, including the January games on there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: after December first, that's what that entails. So I yet
Speaker 4: five games left at that same pace. Essentially, if you
Speaker 4: were a playoff pace would be going four and one
Speaker 4: in these last five.
Speaker 5: That's basically what they have to do to have a chance.
Speaker 5: And they can't imagine anybody to win that third wild
Speaker 5: card game going eight and nine. That wouldn't mean Washington
Speaker 5: would have to lose out.
Speaker 2: I don't see a game in January. What what the
Speaker 2: Washington game? The fifth? Yeah, that's January. For some reason,
Speaker 2: I don't have it at all on it, But go ahead.
Speaker 5: Because you're calling the red.
Speaker 2: I know why I don't have it. It's not there, and.
Speaker 6: You're looking at it.
Speaker 4: By the way, for those that watching, he's looking at
Speaker 4: his phone.
Speaker 6: It's not like he's he's got one of those.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: No, I did not have me to give you the
Speaker 5: little card.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because usually on those that you buy what are
Speaker 4: those called just a calendar that you buy at the schedule, No,
Speaker 4: I'm talking at an office depot or whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: the old school calendars. They usually they give you January too,
Speaker 4: on the next year they did. Man, it's like a
Speaker 4: thirteen month calendar.
Speaker 8: So it's uh, it's at home against Washington, Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 4: And the goal is to make it a meaningful game.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 4: If you make that a meaningful game and you beat Washington,
Speaker 4: it might be for a final wild Guard spot.
Speaker 6: That's the goal.
Speaker 5: Because the teams, the teams ahead of the Cowboys, the
Speaker 5: three of them are six and six, So it's only one.
Speaker 4: Game and one of them is Tampa Bay, who you
Speaker 4: are going.
Speaker 5: To play, right, and then the other one's Washington.
Speaker 6: And then the others.
Speaker 4: The other two are the Cardinals and the Rams, who
Speaker 4: are playing in that tight NFC West where they've got
Speaker 4: so many games against each other that.
Speaker 5: So Washington has the Saints, the Eagles, the Falcons, and
Speaker 5: the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: There and they're off this way failing on at four left,
Speaker 4: say again, Saints.
Speaker 5: Saints, Eagles, Falcons, Cowboys. So they got to play two
Speaker 5: teams back to back that are in that group of seven.
Speaker 4: And right now they are eight and five, and so
Speaker 4: you need them to go one in three in their.
Speaker 5: Last you got to be one of those three and.
Speaker 4: And yeah, right, well, and that would get make them
Speaker 4: nine and eight, and if the Cowboys went four and one,
Speaker 4: they'd be nine and eight. And if it's as head
Speaker 4: to head tie with Washington, then the Cowboys would have
Speaker 4: the tiebreaker on them by beating them twice.
Speaker 5: See, and the teams that have the toughest inner of
Speaker 5: those seven, the Rams have to play the Niners, Jets, Cards,
Speaker 5: and Seahawks. So they got to play three three division games. Oh,
Speaker 5: they got the Bills too, by the way, So the
Speaker 5: Rams have to play three division games.
Speaker 4: What were they again, Bills.
Speaker 5: Niners, Jets, Cards, and Seahawks. So yeah, so there's a
Speaker 5: bunch of losses that got to happen there. And the
Speaker 5: same thing with Arizona Seahawks, Patriots, Panthers, Rams, and Niners.
Speaker 4: Well they're non division games, or should be done for them.
Speaker 5: You should have two, right, although.
Speaker 4: The Panthers are playing better in that way are and
Speaker 4: then by the way, the Cowboys play the right.
Speaker 2: Of course on the road. On the road, they're looking
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 4: Interesting on Bryce Young because he's uh, you know, after
Speaker 4: his rookie season was out on him and even even
Speaker 4: his own team was out on him. And Andy Dalton
Speaker 4: was starting games up until mid season, and now here
Speaker 4: in the last month, Bryce Young is after a respite,
Speaker 4: is back out there and he's I haven't actually watched him,
Speaker 4: but just looking at the way they've fared in games,
Speaker 4: he's playing better apparently.
Speaker 5: Well, it has a lot to do with the rest
Speaker 5: of that team and what they were trying to do too.
Speaker 5: They didn't have much around them. Well, but maybe up
Speaker 5: for him.
Speaker 8: The defense is stepping up for him. They're holding it
Speaker 8: down until he's able to make some plays. And that's
Speaker 8: all the looking young quarterback needs.
Speaker 4: You see the headline on the NFL network right now,
Speaker 4: Well that's a shock Dak Prescott. Of course, Mike McCarthy
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Speaker 4: into that when mix Shots continues at a moment.
Speaker 7: If you choose to, if we mustle all right, we're
Speaker 7: going to get into that, or we'll get into whatever
Speaker 7: is on Mickey's legal pad and when mix Shots continues
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Speaker 4: By the way, we get a Big Twelve Championship game
Speaker 4: at AT and T Stridium this Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 5: Is that some of you playing in it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, they're not in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4: They're in the a c C Championship game on Saturday
Speaker 4: night against Clemson. But it's Iowa State and Arizona State
Speaker 4: and the Big Twelve championship game on which I think
Speaker 4: it's interesting that Iowa State happens.
Speaker 8: Is not a matchup I was expecting to say, that's
Speaker 8: so unstable.
Speaker 4: Ioways State in Arizona.
Speaker 2: We just got what happened to.
Speaker 5: The days of Oklahoma Nebraska Johnny ro that's right. It
Speaker 5: was my way to get out of Thanksgiving Day meal
Speaker 5: at house.
Speaker 4: It was the game of the century nineteen seventy one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that game clip, that clip on the punt return.
Speaker 2: Okay, you remember it.
Speaker 6: You remember the clip, don't you?
Speaker 2: The clippers.
Speaker 8: I got older when it when it was when I
Speaker 8: was a kid when it happened. You know, it was
Speaker 8: unsullied by all of this controversy.
Speaker 4: If we had reap, well we wouldn't. They don't replay
Speaker 4: clipping penalties.
Speaker 5: They probably didn't have replayed back then.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 8: There was a lot of clipping going on back then.
Speaker 8: So let's just chalk it up too.
Speaker 4: But I do think it's interesting that as we bring
Speaker 4: it back to Cincinnati that Iowa State is here for
Speaker 4: the at AT and T Stadium on Saturday, because this
Speaker 4: is the thirty year anniversary of the Berry Switzer David
Speaker 4: Shula Cowboys Banals game in nineteen ninety four. You remember
Speaker 4: the postgame hanshit I do. And what happened was that
Speaker 4: was Barry's first year as a head coach here. Okay,
Speaker 4: and so in this press conference before that game Cowboys,
Speaker 4: In fact, I went back and looked up the Cowboys
Speaker 4: record going into that game was seven and one in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: It was a three and thirteen season. You know what
Speaker 4: David Schula's record was as a Cincinnati head coach stop.
Speaker 4: He was there from ninety one to ninety six stops.
Speaker 6: He was three and thirteen eighty six seasons.
Speaker 4: He got sixties. It was maybe ninety two season he
Speaker 4: was fired. He got fired into the ninety six season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he got fired here after.
Speaker 4: The night Land with a head coaching job the next year.
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but anyway, he was nineteen and fifty
Speaker 4: or something like that as a head coach with the Bengals,
Speaker 4: but was.
Speaker 5: And said I could have figured that. Well, he didn't
Speaker 5: say it, though.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he didn't like me, And you know, it all
Speaker 8: came from just something innocent. I had a show at
Speaker 8: that time and we were speaking of the offense and
Speaker 8: you know how we weren't doing anything, and I made
Speaker 8: some type of type of characteristic, Uh.
Speaker 4: You had mix is what you were on mix shots.
Speaker 8: I said something like it's it's futile or something futile,
Speaker 8: just trying to whatever. I was saying something everyone knew
Speaker 8: because we weren't scoring any points. And I talked about
Speaker 8: him being the offense coordinated. And it wasn't a mean statement,
Speaker 8: it was just something that was fact as we talked
Speaker 8: about what was wrong with our team, and at that time,
Speaker 8: of course we're one to fifteen, so what the hell
Speaker 8: is a lot to talk about. He was just one
Speaker 8: of those subjects. So then I made the statement I
Speaker 8: didn't think it was anything about it. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 8: Gary Mayers just calling me and said that Don Shuler,
Speaker 8: his father, approached Myers about what Emerson was was saying
Speaker 8: about his son.
Speaker 5: I was watching the game the other night and Emerson
Speaker 5: was playing.
Speaker 4: Who was that boozer?
Speaker 5: The guy's last day? And they kept saying Ever said,
Speaker 5: there's anover s how.
Speaker 2: You saying tell him his last name is Everson?
Speaker 6: No, I'm just playing, But Don Shoela.
Speaker 8: Don Shula approached Gary Myers because that's when they were
Speaker 8: doing HBO.
Speaker 2: Inside the NFL and they want the show together.
Speaker 8: Myers was one of the panel and he told his
Speaker 8: daddy on me, and his daddy was, you know, basically,
Speaker 8: he snitched on me, and his dad was trying to.
Speaker 2: Take up for him.
Speaker 8: I'm like, man, this guy is way too old for
Speaker 8: his father to be taken up for him. That's just
Speaker 8: all I can think of. Like, dude, you're right here
Speaker 8: in the same facility with me, come talk to me
Speaker 8: about that. He went and told his daddy.
Speaker 4: So, how old do you think David Shula was when
Speaker 4: he was the offensive coordinator of the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: For two years? I'm thirty one.
Speaker 4: He was thirty eighty nine. He would have been thirty
Speaker 4: years old when, uh, yeah, thirty years old when and
Speaker 4: then hey.
Speaker 2: You went over?
Speaker 4: He became Yeah. But the next year he was thirty one,
Speaker 4: so he became the head coach game, so you went over.
Speaker 6: He became the.
Speaker 4: Head coach of the Bengals in ninety two at age
Speaker 4: thirty three. He went five and eleven, three and thirteen,
Speaker 4: three and thirteen, seven and nine and one and six.
Speaker 8: So he was able to get the coach of the
Speaker 8: Cincinnati Bengals after being the offensive coordinator fire well one
Speaker 8: in fifteen Dallas Cowboys team and seven, seven.
Speaker 4: And nineteen in nineteen nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he was here, he went ninety So is
Speaker 2: that trend upward?
Speaker 5: Three Hall of Future Hall of Famers.
Speaker 2: With that trend upward? What got him?
Speaker 4: Okay, So let's add that together with his nineteen and
Speaker 4: fifty two records.
Speaker 6: Go one in fifteen and seven and nine.
Speaker 7: They didn't even put that one on their it was
Speaker 7: just so eight and twenty four, So that makes him
Speaker 7: twenty seven and seventy six.
Speaker 4: But anyway, back to the story. So in this press
Speaker 4: conference that week, Switzer the Cowboys were seven and one
Speaker 4: going into the game against a bad Cincinnati team, and
Speaker 4: so Switzer is like, you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 4: you know, getting you're getting ready to play a team.
Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like Ioways State in the
Speaker 4: Big Eight, where you've got to get them ready to
Speaker 4: play no matter what the other team's record is or whatever.
Speaker 5: Well, it made it to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: And so post Cowboys win the game. They almost beat
Speaker 4: it with Cowboys. They came closer than I always stayed
Speaker 4: ever did against Switzers all the teams. And that was
Speaker 4: back when, by the way, when Ioway State was not good.
Speaker 6: Now they're good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so h after the post game of handshake,
Speaker 4: Shoela came up to Switzer and said to words to
Speaker 4: the effect of take that I always State and shove.
Speaker 2: It up your.
Speaker 5: They beat them twenty three to twenty. I think it
Speaker 5: was a walk off or field goal at the end,
Speaker 5: maybe something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was thirty years ago. That's a trip
Speaker 4: down Cowboys Bengals Memory.
Speaker 5: Lane, October thirtieth. It is almost Halloween.
Speaker 8: Well, there's a shoela doing in the Cowboys organization. Anyway.
Speaker 4: It was a Chris Bonio field goal, a thirty eight
Speaker 4: yard field goal. In fact, man, switch your love.
Speaker 2: What are you doing with that? That? That this team photo?
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just.
Speaker 6: It was just nineteen eighty two Cowboys team.
Speaker 5: Folks comes when they bring your bill at the Cowboy Club,
Speaker 5: they give you one of these team pictures.
Speaker 8: Really, I'm just surprised that it's in here. That's so
Speaker 8: this will strike you.
Speaker 5: Somebody uh in here must have been up at the
Speaker 5: Cowboys Club.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't mean Okay, So we didn't talk about
Speaker 4: what happened to Dak Dak's support of Mike car There
Speaker 4: was a It went viral yesterday and it's the talk
Speaker 4: of NFL network in ESPN of course this morning.
Speaker 2: That that's a big deal.
Speaker 4: Dak Presscott has come out in support of his head
Speaker 4: coach and believes that Mike McCarthy should be extended.
Speaker 2: And that's not a surprise, is it. No, it's not.
Speaker 8: Yes, there's no big deal. That makes the big deal
Speaker 8: out of this now it's crazy cowboys and.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to know, but trying to find it real quick.
Speaker 5: But in his interview on the radio, what do you expect?
Speaker 5: He doubled down on the Carthy.
Speaker 4: So Dak was interviewed on the radio.
Speaker 5: Yesterday McCarthy Jerry talking.
Speaker 4: About Okay, Jerry's interview a fan yesterday and.
Speaker 5: That got some legs.
Speaker 2: Also.
Speaker 4: The way, and by the way, the interview was with
Speaker 4: that Dak did, was with Jory Epstein. He was making
Speaker 4: the Dick Sporting Goods rounds I think yesterday, and so
Speaker 4: that got tweeted out and reacted to. But I mean, really,
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying and I'm sure that Dak is
Speaker 4: very supportive of Mike McCarthy. I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 4: Those coaches are in that room together how many hours
Speaker 4: during a given week, and they're all on the same
Speaker 4: page as far as trying to get this thing going.
Speaker 4: And then there's no reason to think. But Dak led
Speaker 4: the league in touchdown passes last year, has been very
Speaker 4: successful under Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 8: I don't understand the controversy, but I do appreciate the
Speaker 8: fact that Dak is trying to keep some type of
Speaker 8: continuity going in this organization. If he's going to be here,
Speaker 8: I'm sure he doesn't want to be part of any
Speaker 8: coaching changes at this time in his career. So you
Speaker 8: could call it a pretty selfish thing. But at the
Speaker 8: same time, just because it selfish doesn't mean that it
Speaker 8: might be good or might not be good for the
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys organization.
Speaker 5: Well, And I think the other point he was trying
Speaker 5: to make is every once in a while, a good
Speaker 5: coach has a bad season.
Speaker 8: And I mean the thing that has happened is because
Speaker 8: we've ended on bad notes and you know it hadn't
Speaker 8: gone further. It's the abbreviated playoff appearances that have made
Speaker 8: good seasons ending up in a bad season. So as
Speaker 8: far as the pundits of Contern and those negative pundits,
Speaker 8: they're going to talk about how these last three seasons
Speaker 8: have been failures, not that they've had any success at all.
Speaker 8: They're going to try I forget about the great years,
Speaker 8: the great plays and season that the CD and DAK
Speaker 8: had as well as the rest of the team.
Speaker 6: Here's the interest.
Speaker 4: What I thought was the interesting thing about what Dak
Speaker 4: said in this and here's this whole quote. I believe
Speaker 4: in him McCarthy wholeheartedly. I don't want to necessarily get
Speaker 4: into he said, I don't want to necessarily get into
Speaker 4: the nuts and the screws of it all. Obviously, yes
Speaker 4: he did revolves, but I think but I think maybe
Speaker 4: that's how they say to Luisia. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 4: he definitely deserves a chance another contract. I mean here
Speaker 4: to here's what was interesting about it, I thought, And
Speaker 4: a chance to coach this team amongst more influence on
Speaker 4: his terms may be a good way to say it.
Speaker 4: So well read through the lines of that, I missed it.
Speaker 4: Is he talking to that chance to coach this team
Speaker 4: and you could tell he was thinking how to best
Speaker 4: phrase this amongst more influence on his terms may be
Speaker 4: a good way to say.
Speaker 8: That is not going to happen. There's still going to
Speaker 8: be whenever if he comes back, is going to still
Speaker 8: be under the same terms that it has always been on.
Speaker 8: So whatever he's referring to, that's still.
Speaker 2: Going to be there.
Speaker 8: And I don't want to, you know, jump to any conclusions,
Speaker 8: but that person or situation is still going to remain.
Speaker 5: Meaning you got to get to the Super.
Speaker 8: Bowl, you still got to get to the super Bowl,
Speaker 8: regardless of what is going on or what kind of
Speaker 8: influences might be affecting his success.
Speaker 4: Okay, Mickey, you've found anything else.
Speaker 5: I was trying to see what Jerry said about him
Speaker 5: talking about what he's done and how he's kept this
Speaker 5: team together, and he hasn't looked back. He keeps looking forward.
Speaker 5: And we're building guys for the future, the young guys
Speaker 5: that they're playing right now and come and I saw
Speaker 5: somebody made a big deal of that, but I can't
Speaker 5: seem to find it under this transcription.
Speaker 9: I have.
Speaker 2: Well find it. I guess we'll just move on.
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Speaker 4: to talk about here.
Speaker 5: You know what I put this list together just thinking
Speaker 5: about it last night. The injuries the Cowboys have had
Speaker 5: and the guys that have returned, because everybody keeps asking
Speaker 5: me what's been the difference. And so here's the guys
Speaker 5: that return from injuries. Micah Parsons, Deron Bland, Brandon Cooks finally,
Speaker 5: and Chuma Doga. The guys still out this last game
Speaker 5: or are still on injured reserve trying to get back.
Speaker 5: Sam Williams, Dak Prescott, de Marcus Lawrence, John Stevens, I'm
Speaker 5: as awesome. Richard's amani oi so I hear that he
Speaker 5: may get back into practice this week. He's diligible, Kayln
Speaker 5: Carson and Josh Butler, Zach Martin, Trayvon Diggs, Marquise Bell,
Speaker 5: jan Ye Thomas, Jake Ferguson, and Marshawn Neelan. That's the
Speaker 5: injury list. So when you sit here and wonder why
Speaker 5: they're five and a half point underdogs at home, I'm
Speaker 5: sure Vegas looked at this list and said, hmmm.
Speaker 8: Got to say, Vegas, they're not wrong much. They're not wrong.
Speaker 5: Much, and they're looking at Oh, they got Joe Burrow
Speaker 5: and the Cowboys are starting Cooper Rush. But anyway, that's
Speaker 5: they They got some guys back, but look at all
Speaker 5: the guys still missing and we're talking starters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and that stuff, as we all know, goes
Speaker 4: on around the league. The issue for the Cowboys is,
Speaker 4: and we knew going back to the spring that because
Speaker 4: of the salary cap issues that this team has, they
Speaker 4: weren't able to be active as active as they normally
Speaker 4: are getting veteran guys and unrestricted free agency. They had
Speaker 4: to take a different tack on it this year, and
Speaker 4: so they don't have the veteran depth that they normally
Speaker 4: would have, and so you're having to play younger players,
Speaker 4: unproven players, and sometimes that'll bite you, and in fact,
Speaker 4: some of your starters are unproven players that you're counting
Speaker 4: on just playing, including your first round draft pick.
Speaker 5: Just think what happened at cornerback with Bland out right.
Speaker 5: Then you developed and played Amani Oua, and then he's
Speaker 5: injured reserve, and then you had Kaylin Carson playing and
Speaker 5: now he's on injured reserve. You develop Josh Butler off
Speaker 5: the practice squad starting and he's on injured reserve. And
Speaker 5: in the middle of all that, one game Jordan Lewis misses,
Speaker 5: and now the last two games Trayvon Diggs miss cornerback.
Speaker 4: That's a great example at the cornerback position, because the
Speaker 4: Cowboys would have loved to have been able to have
Speaker 4: done what Minnesota did, which is signed Stephan Gilmore Man. Okay,
Speaker 4: and Stephan Gilmore goes to Minnesota. Why does Minnesota able
Speaker 4: to do that?
Speaker 6: They let Kirk.
Speaker 4: Cousins go in free agency, and so they got money
Speaker 4: to spend on to.
Speaker 5: Sign like eight million dollars on a run year.
Speaker 4: I mean, even you can take to the running back position.
Speaker 4: They didn't have the money to spend on Derrick Henry,
Speaker 4: who had nine million dollars a year, because you're you've
Speaker 4: got priorities elsewhere with these contracts.
Speaker 5: And then you know, the same thing happened at defensive
Speaker 5: end when Blant, I mean when Parsons was out. Your
Speaker 5: top four guys were out. So you're starting number five
Speaker 5: and number six.
Speaker 4: Then you're going to the dollar store as far as
Speaker 4: the veteran guy.
Speaker 5: Yes, and you're signing Carl Lawson, who kind of stepped
Speaker 5: up this last game, but he hadn't been with anybody
Speaker 5: the whole offseason. He didn't go through train in camp,
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden he shows up and oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, you got to play, and he's not bad.
Speaker 5: And so he's starting to show that why he did
Speaker 5: what he did in two years ago twenty two right
Speaker 5: with the Jets. I mean he had like eight sacks
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, exactly. So he had a sack and
Speaker 5: was it a sack sacond and a half or a
Speaker 5: half a sack in five quarterback pressures on Sunday.
Speaker 2: And I mean that's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8: That's the example of a guy not believing the narrative,
Speaker 8: you know, not letting anyone let him know how good
Speaker 8: he is. And so we need more of those guys
Speaker 8: that say, you know what I have can still play,
Speaker 8: you know, regardless of what you you've heard, regardless of
Speaker 8: what's on paper, I still have it inside to be
Speaker 8: able to play some good football.
Speaker 5: And they're gonna need it again because while they're talking
Speaker 5: about activating DeMarcus Lawrence, practice period twenty one days this week,
Speaker 5: I don't know that he goes out there and plays
Speaker 5: on Sunday or Monday maybe the next week. Right, he
Speaker 5: hadn't played.
Speaker 2: Since we always talked about ramp up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so he's definitely been out.
Speaker 4: Was just like just like with IDGA, the previous week
Speaker 4: he was he was active, but he didn't play in
Speaker 4: the game, okay, and they wanted to get through the
Speaker 4: Thursday game. McCarthy after the game, Uh, we were talking
Speaker 4: about Adoga and the number of snaps he got, and
Speaker 4: he said, yeah, he got a lot more than what
Speaker 4: we are anticipating. It sounded like they were going to
Speaker 4: maybe alternate uh in the Thursday game ge and alternate
Speaker 4: by you know, give Geiton two three series and have
Speaker 4: adogas spell him at times. That's what just reading through
Speaker 4: the lines of McCarthy's answer on.
Speaker 5: That, well to me about it. The previous game when
Speaker 5: Awesome was there, they had him rotate in until he
Speaker 5: got hurt.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now I think they decided to kind of
Speaker 4: go that route with Geyton, you know, and then in
Speaker 4: a full plate and then.
Speaker 5: And then as called for a Facebook you.
Speaker 8: Guys might disagree, but I think Tyson's problem.
Speaker 12: Is that he needs I think he needs rhymes, he
Speaker 12: needs he needs more.
Speaker 8: I think I just think he needs more help on technique.
Speaker 8: He just needs more. He has the attitude. The attitude
Speaker 8: is there.
Speaker 5: It's played much football.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why he needs.
Speaker 8: They need to go into some type of tutelage to
Speaker 8: where this guy can can be taught all the different trades.
Speaker 2: I think it's like Greg.
Speaker 8: Ellis needs to do more with him on an individual
Speaker 8: basis because the guy is pretty good or whoever the
Speaker 8: offensive coordinator. I think Greg needs to work with him
Speaker 8: because Greg was a defensive player. Yeah, he's a defensive player.
Speaker 8: He can tell him what to look out for. That's
Speaker 8: who he needs to be working with. Because the footwork
Speaker 8: seems to be there, but it's the hands and the
Speaker 8: attitude here that seems to get him in trouble. You
Speaker 8: have a guy blocked, but then you decide to put
Speaker 8: some extra into it, and there's a timing on when
Speaker 8: you can do that. You can't do it from the
Speaker 8: line of scrimmers. There are times when the guy's going down,
Speaker 8: you got to let him go down.
Speaker 2: You know. He just doesn't seem to have the nuance
Speaker 2: together in because.
Speaker 5: No, he wants a very him every time.
Speaker 4: The first time he played offensive tackle in a college
Speaker 4: football game basically was two years ago in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: and he wasn't even he wasn't a full time starter
Speaker 4: at all that year, like five minutes and then yeah,
Speaker 4: and the only reason he started was because Janie Morris,
Speaker 4: who's now with Kansas City and having problems by the way,
Speaker 4: tackle for Kansas City. He was suspended to start that
Speaker 4: year and then so Guyton step had to play and
Speaker 4: even though he wasn't ready, and then he did play
Speaker 4: last year, but he was kind of the same kind
Speaker 4: of stuff he's going through here where he get nicked
Speaker 4: up and missed a game and then he wound up
Speaker 4: I think playing starting eight or nine games on a
Speaker 4: twelve game schedule nine of ten, okay, so, and then
Speaker 4: opted out for the draft come November.
Speaker 5: Basically, so he could have had another year of eligibia
Speaker 5: oh yeah.
Speaker 4: In college, oh yeah. And it's with the COVID year,
Speaker 4: he might have had two years of eligibility left.
Speaker 8: So to me, I think they need to be more
Speaker 8: creative on how they approached this loning curve for him.
Speaker 8: I think obviously the offensive line coach can't do that.
Speaker 8: You have to have a guy like a Greg Ellis
Speaker 8: to show him, Okay, this will worked against me when
Speaker 8: I played, And of course greg is going to against
Speaker 8: some of the best offensive linemen in history, and so
Speaker 8: he could show us some stuff that just might glib
Speaker 8: off on him.
Speaker 5: I don't know, guys, And by the way, there's the
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: This is where you're supposed to be, not in the backfield. Well,
Speaker 2: now that's a trick of the trade so well.
Speaker 5: But that comes from your anxiety of getting beat. So
Speaker 5: you're trying to take every advantage you can get. And
Speaker 5: you know he will have problems with that speed rush
Speaker 5: to the outside.
Speaker 4: And it's going to help him being in an off
Speaker 4: season program and getting stronger and so forth, and his
Speaker 4: body getting it.
Speaker 5: Because offensive linemen don't get a chance to develop in
Speaker 5: the off season there's no football being played, and then
Speaker 5: you get the training camp and it's basically the same
Speaker 5: thing in practice, even though you got pads on once
Speaker 5: a day, right, but four times a week.
Speaker 2: That's the difference. That's the differences. Okay.
Speaker 4: We touched on it at the end of the show
Speaker 4: yesterday about the senior finalists for the Hall of Fame. Yes, okay,
Speaker 4: and those so so just to review and we are
Speaker 4: not happy about it. Just to review. Mike Holmgren a
Speaker 4: coach finalist, and the seniors finalists are Maxie Bond, Sterling
Speaker 4: Sharp and Jim Tyre. And Jim Tyre considered one of
Speaker 4: the dominant offensive tackles of his era, selected as a
Speaker 4: member of the AFL's All Decade Team of the sixties,
Speaker 4: played in nine AFL All Star Games in a career
Speaker 4: that spanned thirteen years with the Dallas Texans first, of course,
Speaker 4: became the Kansas City Chiefs. Want to ring as a
Speaker 4: member of the Super Bowl four champion Chiefs and was
Speaker 4: part of three AFL championship teams with the Texans and
Speaker 4: the Chiefs and the other thing to keep in mind,
Speaker 4: it's not the NFL Hall of Fame, it's the Pro
Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. So all that AFL stuff counts now,
Speaker 4: then it's a fine, go ahead.
Speaker 5: And I don't mean this disparagingle or anything, but is
Speaker 5: he still alive?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: In fact, that leads me to the rest of this story.
Speaker 5: See, and that's the worst part is these guys getting in.
Speaker 5: It was like the offensive lineman from I want to
Speaker 5: say it was Mississippi State. He was totally out of
Speaker 5: it and he got in. Or even what it happened
Speaker 5: with the Cowboys, right, couldn't be at the ceremony, Chuck
Speaker 5: Holli he waits so long for these guys, you know,
Speaker 5: Bob Hayes, he could have been in and they voted
Speaker 5: him out basically, and then he passes away and then
Speaker 5: he gets in. Now it's great for the family, but
Speaker 5: you know, the poor guy deserves to know.
Speaker 2: He wrote, like I said, give him his flowers wild,
Speaker 2: he's alive.
Speaker 4: The Jim Tyres story is a tragic one. After his
Speaker 4: playing career. I'm reading this off his Wikipedia.
Speaker 5: Page and we're assuming it's Eckerate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's that. He turned down an opportunity to
Speaker 4: serve as a scout for the Chiefs, then spent the
Speaker 4: next three years as a salesman before tiring of the
Speaker 4: constant travel and investing in a tire business.
Speaker 6: Jim Tyre, however.
Speaker 4: A mild winner, proved to be financially disastrous for Tire,
Speaker 4: who moved on to work for Amway. And it says
Speaker 4: this series of business misfortunes culminated in the early hours
Speaker 4: of September fifteenth, nineteen eighty and he was forty one
Speaker 4: years old at the time when Tyres shot and killed
Speaker 4: his wife Martha, then died by suicide by turning the
Speaker 4: gun on himself. The day before, he had attended a
Speaker 4: Chiefs game at Arrowhead Stadium with his ten year old
Speaker 4: son Jason in twenty twenty one, the documentary A Good
Speaker 4: Man The Jim Tyres Story by Kansas City filmmaker Kevin
Speaker 4: Patrick Allen was released.
Speaker 8: And in that I don't know if he's in that film,
Speaker 8: but the story goes on to talk about how CTE
Speaker 8: may have played a big part in his final decisions
Speaker 8: of his life. And I guess the best part about
Speaker 8: it is his in laws forgave him so much because
Speaker 8: they believed that there was because of the injuries that
Speaker 8: he sustained doing football. They forgave him so much to
Speaker 8: where they basically pleading for anyone to forgive him. This
Speaker 8: is coming from the in law side, and that's how
Speaker 8: much they thought about him. That's how much they realized
Speaker 8: that the game itself took away from him mentally. And
Speaker 8: so I get it kind of confused in the end,
Speaker 8: but for the most part they have totally forgiven him.
Speaker 8: If I'm not mistaken, they still have him buried beside
Speaker 8: their daughter. That's how much they forgave him.
Speaker 4: Well, and the other part of it. Tyres sons Brad
Speaker 4: Tyre played college football under Tom Osborne at Nebraska from
Speaker 4: eighty three to eighty eight. It's part of the Black
Speaker 4: Shirts defense. And then the other son, Jason, played for
Speaker 4: Kansas defensive end for Kansas, and they had big big boy,
Speaker 4: big boy.
Speaker 5: Think about back then, the difference between the helmets now
Speaker 5: and the helmets back.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we got problems in the eighties, not
Speaker 8: even talking about the sixties.
Speaker 5: They were just a little bit better than the leathers.
Speaker 8: Right right, right, And so uh that's the thing that
Speaker 8: they wanted, uh, the NFL to to, you know, continue saying,
Speaker 8: is forget what happened off the field. You know, he
Speaker 8: was a good man, and but also he was a
Speaker 8: damn good player on the field. So I just thought
Speaker 8: that was a cool story of redemption in regard to
Speaker 8: that entire family in a tragic, tragic situation.
Speaker 4: So giant of a man for that era, sixty six,
Speaker 4: two eighty.
Speaker 2: Pounds, that's why kids did well.
Speaker 5: It might have been too heavy for Tom, by the way, yeah,
Speaker 5: two hundred and eighty pound offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: It wasn't forrank Stram though he was an eight time
Speaker 4: AFL All Star.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm sure Tom, I'm sure Tom almost fainted
Speaker 5: when Nate showed up nineteen eighty six at three hundred.
Speaker 2: Appreciate my man, Nate all right.
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