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Speaker 3: This is mick Shots streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 3: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: It's an overcast, rather drizzly Wednesday. Here inside the SWBC

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Speaker 4: micshots on a National Signing Day edition of Micshots. Do

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Speaker 4: you don't realize today is the college national Signing Day.

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Speaker 4: This is the day that high school seniors across the

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Speaker 4: nation sign on the dotted line with the first of

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Speaker 4: the three colleges they will attend the next three years.

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Speaker 5: And they can't decommit after they sign. That's all I

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Speaker 5: read about this morning.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh.

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Speaker 5: Two Missouri guys from this area de committed to A

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Speaker 5: and M A M.

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Speaker 6: Tatum.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of.

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Speaker 5: Course that's more money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all this will make you feel better, Mickey. I've

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Speaker 4: got in front of me the Jacksonville State sightings and so.

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Speaker 5: You got, you got.

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Speaker 2: I was almost not listening to.

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Speaker 5: Do you have el Corn?

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Speaker 2: I can look up?

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Speaker 6: Okay, what happened.

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Speaker 5: If I had said el Corn instead of Jackson State.

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Speaker 5: Would that have been funny? Well, it's the wrong school.

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Speaker 2: It's more like a Corn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, con Okay, all cons it's el Corn.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Corn.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that don't wind him up today.

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Speaker 5: Please, do you understand that you're doing it? You get

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Speaker 5: if you get the wrong school, you get the wrong school.

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Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with Jackson State. As the

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Speaker 5: court went back, I covered more Jackson Steak than you

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Speaker 5: played there.

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Speaker 2: All right, I was just I was really not listed

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Speaker 2: today until you.

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Speaker 5: Get your and don't make a mistake the rest of

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Speaker 5: the week like Bill did yesterday. Okay, we don't have

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Speaker 5: mistakes on this.

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Speaker 6: Year, that's right.

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Speaker 4: I did see Jacksonville State signed Austin Eckler's cousin.

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Speaker 2: The white guy.

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Speaker 7: He went to a black school, the white running back

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Speaker 7: from bathroom.

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Speaker 5: See you guys, you guys put a hex on him

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Speaker 5: because he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: He got hurt. Before we start in messing with you

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Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 5: It was after.

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Speaker 6: You got the Mickey eggs.

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Speaker 5: The cowboys were too powerful mon Clark. He might still

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Speaker 5: be laying there after Clark hit.

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Speaker 6: All right, we move on. We're moving on to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to do? We have to stuff all right?

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Speaker 4: Well, makey it's a busy day because it's back to here.

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Speaker 5: We have a one oh five press conference we can

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Speaker 5: all attend. By the way, we got a two oh

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Speaker 5: five practice and a three oh five press conference.

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Speaker 6: You know what okay?

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Speaker 5: Open locker, I mean open locker real Yeah, practice one

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Speaker 5: hour sounds that way. It was going to be an

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Speaker 5: abbreviated practice since they hadn't they got an extra two

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Speaker 4: You know what else is happening?

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So McCarthy's doing his press conference at one oh five

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Speaker 4: and then.

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Speaker 6: Practices at two o five.

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Speaker 4: Okay. He's also on serious NFL radio at one thirty

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Speaker 4: with his former quarterback Rich Gannon. I was driving in

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Speaker 4: today and they were teasing the fact that Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 5: We have to listen to them.

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Speaker 4: At Kansas City when he was at Kansas City and

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Speaker 4: with Schottenheimer. It's okay, he was at Gannaways at Kansas

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, anyway.

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Speaker 5: Is that the one they blamed, uh the coach for

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Speaker 5: changing the game plan? Before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: With the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, so macarthy, We're going to get a lot

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Speaker 4: of McCarthy today, all right. Okay, so a little later

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Speaker 4: scheduled in normal, And the reason for that is it's

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Speaker 4: a different week, squeak, because it's a Monday night game.

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Speaker 5: It's the many bye. They come off there as long

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Speaker 5: as possible, that's right.

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Speaker 4: That's why they do it in the afternoon today instead.

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Speaker 5: Since they played two games in five days, and one

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Speaker 5: them both after not winning for five and they're right

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Speaker 5: back in the hunt.

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Speaker 2: Right back. Well, come on, man, that's what it says.

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Speaker 2: I got in the hunt. I'm looking at everybody here.

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Speaker 4: Are you really?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they are back in the hunt.

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Speaker 5: They have San Francisco in the hunt.

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Speaker 4: At five and seven. Also, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 5: So I went through everybody's schedule. Okay, seven teams have

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Speaker 5: to fill three spots. Somebody's got to win the NFC West. Yet,

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Speaker 5: somebody's got to win the South. We're going to give

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia and Detroit the other two diss Okay, So there's

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Speaker 5: seven teams they got. Everybody's got five games left to play.

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Speaker 5: There's four fourteen games that these seven teams have to

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Speaker 5: play against. Each other, so there's got to be fourteen

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Speaker 5: more losses. Right.

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Speaker 4: Wow, this is interesting, high level stuff.

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Speaker 5: So see, I'm here, you're with me, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: So Washington's ahead for the third wild Card eight and five,

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Speaker 5: Seattle's ahead for the West at seven and five, and

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Speaker 5: then there's three six and six teams, and then the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys in San Francisco at five and seven. So I

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Speaker 5: figured out that there's fourteen games between those teams that

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Speaker 5: have yet to be played. So somebody's got to lose, right,

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of losing that's got to take grice.

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Speaker 2: And it will happen.

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Speaker 5: So the advice to the Cowboy is just worry about

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Speaker 5: yourself and win as many as you can.

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Speaker 8: And the fact that you stay focused throughout all of

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Speaker 8: this adversity. I think it's a testament to them, even

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Speaker 8: though they're still not the team that they want to be.

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Speaker 8: What you expect this time of year. If a team's

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Speaker 8: going to make a move, you want them to make it. Definitely,

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Speaker 8: you wanted to make it superbly, I guess, for lack

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Speaker 8: of other words. In other words, don't make the mistake

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Speaker 8: because you I'm sorry, don't don't look at playing a

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Speaker 8: mistakes than we make. Right, we need to be a

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Speaker 8: team that. Okay, from here on out, we need to

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Speaker 8: be a solid team. We need to be a team

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Speaker 8: that doesn't have many penalties, doesn't make many mistakes, not

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Speaker 8: many turnovers. That needs to be our charge to ourselves

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Speaker 8: from here on, because the games we've been winning is

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Speaker 8: just because the other team was worse than we were.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I've seen it. That's exactly what I mean.

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Speaker 8: They tried to they tried to give us the game,

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Speaker 8: but we tried to give them the game, but they

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Speaker 8: refused it.

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Speaker 2: They gave it back to us. That's the way that was.

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Speaker 8: I want us to be a team at this point

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Speaker 8: to where we're not making the mistakes. Right now, we're

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Speaker 8: just making fewer mistakes than the other team. I'd rather

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Speaker 8: we be a team that makes no mistakes and march

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Speaker 8: forward with worried about just us and how we play,

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Speaker 8: not how badly the opponent plays.

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Speaker 5: So the Cowboys have two games against that group of seven.

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Speaker 5: We got to play Tampa Bay and Washington. Now I

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Speaker 5: know they got to play Eagles, but they're not in

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Speaker 5: the discussion. I think if they win one more game,

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Speaker 5: they clinch the NFC East or they clinch a playoffs playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they may need some helpful on those lines.

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Speaker 4: Detroit tomorrow night plays Green Bay. What a nice way

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Speaker 4: to kick off this weekend with that game. And Detroit

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Speaker 4: can clinch a playoff spot with a win or tie

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Speaker 4: tomorrow night. Right, Kansas City or Buffalo already clinched their

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Speaker 5: We just saw a crawler. So that was the earliest

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Speaker 5: clinch five games to go.

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Speaker 4: Since whenever Kansas City has clinched the playoffs. But they

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Speaker 4: can clinch their division this weekend with a.

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Speaker 5: Win, right, So none of that has anything to do

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Speaker 5: with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 4: When you're talking about now December football, I was just

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Speaker 4: looking up. You want to be playing your best at

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Speaker 4: the end of the season, yes, okay, you.

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Speaker 5: Want to streak into the playoffs. Tom Landery used.

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Speaker 4: To say, all right, so the Cowboys last year, what

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Speaker 4: was their record after December first? Regular season record after

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Speaker 4: December first? Four and oh they went no. Three and two,

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Speaker 4: three and two. They weren't exactly streaking into the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And what happened in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: What were the losses though?

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Speaker 4: Hey what it was Miami right? Or back to back

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Speaker 4: Buffalo and Miami. Yeah, yeap so two teams both on

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Speaker 6: Opponents playoff teams.

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Speaker 4: Right. In twenty two, after December first, the Cowboys were

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Speaker 4: the last one was at Washington the last game they right,

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Speaker 4: so scratch that they were four and one, okay, And

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Speaker 4: in twenty one they were five and one after December first,

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Speaker 5: I can't even remember that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one of those weird games.

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Speaker 4: So basically seven last three games, I'm adding it up

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Speaker 4: the last three years in December in meaningful games. Take

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Speaker 4: Twelve and four record for the Cowboys in December. Do

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Speaker 4: you want to win seventy five percent of your games?

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Speaker 5: So are all five games now in December? Is one

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Speaker 4: Well, and I'm not saying I don't the game in

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Speaker 4: January this year, Yeah, there's one in January, the last one.

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Speaker 4: But I'm talking, yeah, including the January games on there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: after December first, that's what that entails. So I yet

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Speaker 4: five games left at that same pace. Essentially, if you

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Speaker 4: were a playoff pace would be going four and one

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Speaker 4: in these last five.

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Speaker 5: That's basically what they have to do to have a chance.

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Speaker 5: And they can't imagine anybody to win that third wild

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Speaker 5: card game going eight and nine. That wouldn't mean Washington

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Speaker 5: would have to lose out.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a game in January. What what the

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Speaker 2: Washington game? The fifth? Yeah, that's January. For some reason,

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Speaker 2: I don't have it at all on it, But go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Because you're calling the red.

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Speaker 2: I know why I don't have it. It's not there, and.

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Speaker 6: You're looking at it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, for those that watching, he's looking at

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Speaker 4: his phone.

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Speaker 6: It's not like he's he's got one of those.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: No, I did not have me to give you the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because usually on those that you buy what are

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Speaker 4: And the goal is to make it a meaningful game.

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Speaker 4: If you make that a meaningful game and you beat Washington,

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Speaker 5: Because the teams, the teams ahead of the Cowboys, the

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Speaker 4: And right now they are eight and five, and so

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Speaker 5: See, and the teams that have the toughest inner of

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Speaker 4: By the way, we get a Big Twelve Championship game

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Speaker 6: No, I'm just playing, But Don Shoela.

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Speaker 5: For two years? I'm thirty one.

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Speaker 2: You went over?

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Speaker 4: He became Yeah. But the next year he was thirty one,

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Speaker 4: so he became the head coach game, so you went over.

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Speaker 6: He became the.

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Speaker 4: Head coach of the Bengals in ninety two at age

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Speaker 4: thirty three. He went five and eleven, three and thirteen,

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Speaker 4: three and thirteen, seven and nine and one and six.

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Speaker 8: So he was able to get the coach of the

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati Bengals after being the offensive coordinator fire well one

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Speaker 8: in fifteen Dallas Cowboys team and seven, seven.

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Speaker 4: And nineteen in nineteen nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he was here, he went ninety So is

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Speaker 2: that trend upward?

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Speaker 5: Three Hall of Future Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 2: With that trend upward? What got him?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So let's add that together with his nineteen and

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Speaker 4: fifty two records.

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Speaker 6: Go one in fifteen and seven and nine.

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Speaker 7: They didn't even put that one on their it was

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Speaker 7: just so eight and twenty four, So that makes him

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Speaker 7: twenty seven and seventy six.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, back to the story. So in this press

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Speaker 4: conference that week, Switzer the Cowboys were seven and one

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Speaker 4: going into the game against a bad Cincinnati team, and

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Speaker 4: so Switzer is like, you know, it's kind of like

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Speaker 4: you know, getting you're getting ready to play a team.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of like Ioways State in the

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Speaker 4: Big Eight, where you've got to get them ready to

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Speaker 4: play no matter what the other team's record is or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Well, it made it to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: And so post Cowboys win the game. They almost beat

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Speaker 4: it with Cowboys. They came closer than I always stayed

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Speaker 4: ever did against Switzers all the teams. And that was

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Speaker 4: back when, by the way, when Ioway State was not good.

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Speaker 6: Now they're good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so h after the post game of handshake,

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Speaker 4: Shoela came up to Switzer and said to words to

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Speaker 4: the effect of take that I always State and shove.

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Speaker 2: It up your.

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Speaker 5: They beat them twenty three to twenty. I think it

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Speaker 5: was a walk off or field goal at the end,

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Speaker 5: maybe something like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was thirty years ago. That's a trip

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Speaker 4: down Cowboys Bengals Memory.

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Speaker 5: Lane, October thirtieth. It is almost Halloween.

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Speaker 8: Well, there's a shoela doing in the Cowboys organization. Anyway.

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Speaker 4: It was a Chris Bonio field goal, a thirty eight

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Speaker 4: yard field goal. In fact, man, switch your love.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with that? That? That this team photo?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just.

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Speaker 6: It was just nineteen eighty two Cowboys team.

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Speaker 5: Folks comes when they bring your bill at the Cowboy Club,

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Speaker 5: they give you one of these team pictures.

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Speaker 8: Really, I'm just surprised that it's in here. That's so

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Speaker 8: this will strike you.

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Speaker 5: Somebody uh in here must have been up at the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys Club.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't mean Okay, So we didn't talk about

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Speaker 4: what happened to Dak Dak's support of Mike car There

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Speaker 4: was a It went viral yesterday and it's the talk

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Speaker 4: of NFL network in ESPN of course this morning.

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Speaker 2: That that's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Dak Presscott has come out in support of his head

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Speaker 4: coach and believes that Mike McCarthy should be extended.

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Speaker 2: And that's not a surprise, is it. No, it's not.

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Speaker 8: Yes, there's no big deal. That makes the big deal

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Speaker 8: out of this now it's crazy cowboys and.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to know, but trying to find it real quick.

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Speaker 5: But in his interview on the radio, what do you expect?

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Speaker 5: He doubled down on the Carthy.

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Speaker 4: So Dak was interviewed on the radio.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday McCarthy Jerry talking.

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Speaker 4: About Okay, Jerry's interview a fan yesterday and.

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Speaker 5: That got some legs.

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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 4: The way, and by the way, the interview was with

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Speaker 4: that Dak did, was with Jory Epstein. He was making

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Speaker 4: the Dick Sporting Goods rounds I think yesterday, and so

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Speaker 4: that got tweeted out and reacted to. But I mean, really,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not saying and I'm sure that Dak is

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Speaker 4: very supportive of Mike McCarthy. I mean, you think about it.

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Speaker 4: Those coaches are in that room together how many hours

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Speaker 4: during a given week, and they're all on the same

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Speaker 4: page as far as trying to get this thing going.

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Speaker 4: And then there's no reason to think. But Dak led

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Speaker 4: the league in touchdown passes last year, has been very

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Speaker 4: successful under Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 8: I don't understand the controversy, but I do appreciate the

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Speaker 8: fact that Dak is trying to keep some type of

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Speaker 8: continuity going in this organization. If he's going to be here,

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Speaker 8: I'm sure he doesn't want to be part of any

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Speaker 8: coaching changes at this time in his career. So you

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Speaker 8: could call it a pretty selfish thing. But at the

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Speaker 8: same time, just because it selfish doesn't mean that it

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Speaker 8: might be good or might not be good for the

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Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys organization.

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Speaker 5: Well, And I think the other point he was trying

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Speaker 5: to make is every once in a while, a good

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Speaker 5: coach has a bad season.

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Speaker 8: And I mean the thing that has happened is because

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Speaker 8: we've ended on bad notes and you know it hadn't

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Speaker 8: gone further. It's the abbreviated playoff appearances that have made

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Speaker 8: good seasons ending up in a bad season. So as

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Speaker 8: far as the pundits of Contern and those negative pundits,

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Speaker 8: they're going to talk about how these last three seasons

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Speaker 8: have been failures, not that they've had any success at all.

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Speaker 8: They're going to try I forget about the great years,

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Speaker 8: the great plays and season that the CD and DAK

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Speaker 8: had as well as the rest of the team.

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Speaker 6: Here's the interest.

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Speaker 4: What I thought was the interesting thing about what Dak

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Speaker 4: said in this and here's this whole quote. I believe

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Speaker 4: in him McCarthy wholeheartedly. I don't want to necessarily get

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Speaker 4: into he said, I don't want to necessarily get into

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Speaker 4: the nuts and the screws of it all. Obviously, yes

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Speaker 4: he did revolves, but I think but I think maybe

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Speaker 4: that's how they say to Luisia. Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 4: he definitely deserves a chance another contract. I mean here

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Speaker 4: to here's what was interesting about it, I thought, And

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Speaker 4: a chance to coach this team amongst more influence on

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Speaker 4: his terms may be a good way to say it.

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Speaker 4: So well read through the lines of that, I missed it.

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Speaker 4: Is he talking to that chance to coach this team

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Speaker 4: and you could tell he was thinking how to best

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Speaker 4: phrase this amongst more influence on his terms may be

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Speaker 4: a good way to say.

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Speaker 8: That is not going to happen. There's still going to

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Speaker 8: be whenever if he comes back, is going to still

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Speaker 8: be under the same terms that it has always been on.

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Speaker 8: So whatever he's referring to, that's still.

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Speaker 2: Going to be there.

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Speaker 8: And I don't want to, you know, jump to any conclusions,

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Speaker 8: but that person or situation is still going to remain.

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Speaker 5: Meaning you got to get to the Super.

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Speaker 8: Bowl, you still got to get to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 8: regardless of what is going on or what kind of

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Speaker 8: influences might be affecting his success.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Mickey, you've found anything else.

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Speaker 5: I was trying to see what Jerry said about him

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Speaker 5: talking about what he's done and how he's kept this

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Speaker 5: team together, and he hasn't looked back. He keeps looking forward.

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Speaker 5: And we're building guys for the future, the young guys

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Speaker 5: that they're playing right now and come and I saw

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Speaker 5: somebody made a big deal of that, but I can't

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Speaker 5: seem to find it under this transcription.

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Speaker 9: I have.

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Speaker 2: Well find it. I guess we'll just move on.

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Speaker 4: on around the league. The issue for the Cowboys is,

670
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 4: and we knew going back to the spring that because

671
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 4: of the salary cap issues that this team has, they

672
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: weren't able to be active as active as they normally

673
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 4: are getting veteran guys and unrestricted free agency. They had

674
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: to take a different tack on it this year, and

675
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 4: so they don't have the veteran depth that they normally

676
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: would have, and so you're having to play younger players,

677
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: unproven players, and sometimes that'll bite you, and in fact,

678
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 4: some of your starters are unproven players that you're counting

679
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: on just playing, including your first round draft pick.

680
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: Just think what happened at cornerback with Bland out right.

681
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 5: Then you developed and played Amani Oua, and then he's

682
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 5: injured reserve, and then you had Kaylin Carson playing and

683
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 5: now he's on injured reserve. You develop Josh Butler off

684
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: the practice squad starting and he's on injured reserve. And

685
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: in the middle of all that, one game Jordan Lewis misses,

686
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 5: and now the last two games Trayvon Diggs miss cornerback.

687
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: That's a great example at the cornerback position, because the

688
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: Cowboys would have loved to have been able to have

689
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 4: done what Minnesota did, which is signed Stephan Gilmore Man. Okay,

690
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: and Stephan Gilmore goes to Minnesota. Why does Minnesota able

691
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: to do that?

692
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 6: They let Kirk.

693
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: Cousins go in free agency, and so they got money

694
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: to spend on to.

695
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: Sign like eight million dollars on a run year.

696
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: I mean, even you can take to the running back position.

697
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 4: They didn't have the money to spend on Derrick Henry,

698
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: who had nine million dollars a year, because you're you've

699
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: got priorities elsewhere with these contracts.

700
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: And then you know, the same thing happened at defensive

701
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: end when Blant, I mean when Parsons was out. Your

702
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 5: top four guys were out. So you're starting number five

703
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 5: and number six.

704
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: Then you're going to the dollar store as far as

705
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: the veteran guy.

706
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 5: Yes, and you're signing Carl Lawson, who kind of stepped

707
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 5: up this last game, but he hadn't been with anybody

708
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 5: the whole offseason. He didn't go through train in camp,

709
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden he shows up and oh.

710
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: By the way, you got to play, and he's not bad.

711
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 5: And so he's starting to show that why he did

712
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: what he did in two years ago twenty two right

713
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 5: with the Jets. I mean he had like eight sacks

714
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, exactly. So he had a sack and

715
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 5: was it a sack sacond and a half or a

716
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 5: half a sack in five quarterback pressures on Sunday.

717
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: And I mean that's Thanksgiving.

718
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 8: That's the example of a guy not believing the narrative,

719
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 8: you know, not letting anyone let him know how good

720
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 8: he is. And so we need more of those guys

721
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 8: that say, you know what I have can still play,

722
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 8: you know, regardless of what you you've heard, regardless of

723
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 8: what's on paper, I still have it inside to be

724
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 8: able to play some good football.

725
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: And they're gonna need it again because while they're talking

726
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: about activating DeMarcus Lawrence, practice period twenty one days this week,

727
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: I don't know that he goes out there and plays

728
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 5: on Sunday or Monday maybe the next week. Right, he

729
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: hadn't played.

730
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: Since we always talked about ramp up.

731
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so he's definitely been out.

732
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: Was just like just like with IDGA, the previous week

733
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 4: he was he was active, but he didn't play in

734
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: the game, okay, and they wanted to get through the

735
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 4: Thursday game. McCarthy after the game, Uh, we were talking

736
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: about Adoga and the number of snaps he got, and

737
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: he said, yeah, he got a lot more than what

738
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: we are anticipating. It sounded like they were going to

739
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: maybe alternate uh in the Thursday game ge and alternate

740
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: by you know, give Geiton two three series and have

741
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: adogas spell him at times. That's what just reading through

742
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: the lines of McCarthy's answer on.

743
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: That, well to me about it. The previous game when

744
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: Awesome was there, they had him rotate in until he

745
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 5: got hurt.

746
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now I think they decided to kind of

747
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: go that route with Geyton, you know, and then in

748
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 4: a full plate and then.

749
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 5: And then as called for a Facebook you.

750
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 8: Guys might disagree, but I think Tyson's problem.

751
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 12: Is that he needs I think he needs rhymes, he

752
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 12: needs he needs more.

753
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 8: I think I just think he needs more help on technique.

754
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 8: He just needs more. He has the attitude. The attitude

755
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 8: is there.

756
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 5: It's played much football.

757
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, that's why he needs.

758
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 8: They need to go into some type of tutelage to

759
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 8: where this guy can can be taught all the different trades.

760
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: I think it's like Greg.

761
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 8: Ellis needs to do more with him on an individual

762
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 8: basis because the guy is pretty good or whoever the

763
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 8: offensive coordinator. I think Greg needs to work with him

764
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 8: because Greg was a defensive player. Yeah, he's a defensive player.

765
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 8: He can tell him what to look out for. That's

766
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 8: who he needs to be working with. Because the footwork

767
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 8: seems to be there, but it's the hands and the

768
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 8: attitude here that seems to get him in trouble. You

769
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 8: have a guy blocked, but then you decide to put

770
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 8: some extra into it, and there's a timing on when

771
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 8: you can do that. You can't do it from the

772
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 8: line of scrimmers. There are times when the guy's going down,

773
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 8: you got to let him go down.

774
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: You know. He just doesn't seem to have the nuance

775
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: together in because.

776
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 5: No, he wants a very him every time.

777
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: The first time he played offensive tackle in a college

778
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: football game basically was two years ago in twenty twenty two,

779
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: and he wasn't even he wasn't a full time starter

780
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: at all that year, like five minutes and then yeah,

781
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 4: and the only reason he started was because Janie Morris,

782
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: who's now with Kansas City and having problems by the way,

783
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 4: tackle for Kansas City. He was suspended to start that

784
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: year and then so Guyton step had to play and

785
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 4: even though he wasn't ready, and then he did play

786
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: last year, but he was kind of the same kind

787
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: of stuff he's going through here where he get nicked

788
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: up and missed a game and then he wound up

789
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 4: I think playing starting eight or nine games on a

790
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: twelve game schedule nine of ten, okay, so, and then

791
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: opted out for the draft come November.

792
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: Basically, so he could have had another year of eligibia

793
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: oh yeah.

794
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 4: In college, oh yeah. And it's with the COVID year,

795
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: he might have had two years of eligibility left.

796
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 8: So to me, I think they need to be more

797
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 8: creative on how they approached this loning curve for him.

798
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 8: I think obviously the offensive line coach can't do that.

799
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 8: You have to have a guy like a Greg Ellis

800
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 8: to show him, Okay, this will worked against me when

801
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 8: I played, And of course greg is going to against

802
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 8: some of the best offensive linemen in history, and so

803
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 8: he could show us some stuff that just might glib

804
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 8: off on him.

805
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, guys, And by the way, there's the

806
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage.

807
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: This is where you're supposed to be, not in the backfield. Well,

808
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: now that's a trick of the trade so well.

809
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 5: But that comes from your anxiety of getting beat. So

810
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 5: you're trying to take every advantage you can get. And

811
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 5: you know he will have problems with that speed rush

812
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 5: to the outside.

813
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: And it's going to help him being in an off

814
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 4: season program and getting stronger and so forth, and his

815
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: body getting it.

816
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 5: Because offensive linemen don't get a chance to develop in

817
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 5: the off season there's no football being played, and then

818
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 5: you get the training camp and it's basically the same

819
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 5: thing in practice, even though you got pads on once

820
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: a day, right, but four times a week.

821
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: That's the difference. That's the differences. Okay.

822
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 4: We touched on it at the end of the show

823
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: yesterday about the senior finalists for the Hall of Fame. Yes, okay,

824
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: and those so so just to review and we are

825
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: not happy about it. Just to review. Mike Holmgren a

826
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: coach finalist, and the seniors finalists are Maxie Bond, Sterling

827
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: Sharp and Jim Tyre. And Jim Tyre considered one of

828
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: the dominant offensive tackles of his era, selected as a

829
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: member of the AFL's All Decade Team of the sixties,

830
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: played in nine AFL All Star Games in a career

831
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 4: that spanned thirteen years with the Dallas Texans first, of course,

832
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: became the Kansas City Chiefs. Want to ring as a

833
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: member of the Super Bowl four champion Chiefs and was

834
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: part of three AFL championship teams with the Texans and

835
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: the Chiefs and the other thing to keep in mind,

836
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: it's not the NFL Hall of Fame, it's the Pro

837
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. So all that AFL stuff counts now,

838
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 4: then it's a fine, go ahead.

839
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 5: And I don't mean this disparagingle or anything, but is

840
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 5: he still alive?

841
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: No?

842
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: No.

843
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: In fact, that leads me to the rest of this story.

844
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: See, and that's the worst part is these guys getting in.

845
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 5: It was like the offensive lineman from I want to

846
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: say it was Mississippi State. He was totally out of

847
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: it and he got in. Or even what it happened

848
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 5: with the Cowboys, right, couldn't be at the ceremony, Chuck

849
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 5: Holli he waits so long for these guys, you know,

850
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: Bob Hayes, he could have been in and they voted

851
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 5: him out basically, and then he passes away and then

852
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 5: he gets in. Now it's great for the family, but

853
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 5: you know, the poor guy deserves to know.

854
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: He wrote, like I said, give him his flowers wild,

855
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: he's alive.

856
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: The Jim Tyres story is a tragic one. After his

857
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: playing career. I'm reading this off his Wikipedia.

858
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 5: Page and we're assuming it's Eckerate.

859
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's that. He turned down an opportunity to

860
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: serve as a scout for the Chiefs, then spent the

861
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: next three years as a salesman before tiring of the

862
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: constant travel and investing in a tire business.

863
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 6: Jim Tyre, however.

864
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 4: A mild winner, proved to be financially disastrous for Tire,

865
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: who moved on to work for Amway. And it says

866
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: this series of business misfortunes culminated in the early hours

867
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: of September fifteenth, nineteen eighty and he was forty one

868
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: years old at the time when Tyres shot and killed

869
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 4: his wife Martha, then died by suicide by turning the

870
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: gun on himself. The day before, he had attended a

871
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 4: Chiefs game at Arrowhead Stadium with his ten year old

872
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: son Jason in twenty twenty one, the documentary A Good

873
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: Man The Jim Tyres Story by Kansas City filmmaker Kevin

874
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 4: Patrick Allen was released.

875
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 8: And in that I don't know if he's in that film,

876
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 8: but the story goes on to talk about how CTE

877
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 8: may have played a big part in his final decisions

878
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 8: of his life. And I guess the best part about

879
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 8: it is his in laws forgave him so much because

880
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 8: they believed that there was because of the injuries that

881
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 8: he sustained doing football. They forgave him so much to

882
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 8: where they basically pleading for anyone to forgive him. This

883
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 8: is coming from the in law side, and that's how

884
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 8: much they thought about him. That's how much they realized

885
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 8: that the game itself took away from him mentally. And

886
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 8: so I get it kind of confused in the end,

887
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 8: but for the most part they have totally forgiven him.

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Speaker 8: If I'm not mistaken, they still have him buried beside

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Speaker 8: their daughter. That's how much they forgave him.

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Speaker 4: Well, and the other part of it. Tyres sons Brad

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Speaker 4: Tyre played college football under Tom Osborne at Nebraska from

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Speaker 4: eighty three to eighty eight. It's part of the Black

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Speaker 4: Shirts defense. And then the other son, Jason, played for

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Speaker 4: Kansas defensive end for Kansas, and they had big big boy,

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Speaker 4: big boy.

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Speaker 5: Think about back then, the difference between the helmets now

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Speaker 5: and the helmets back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we got problems in the eighties, not

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Speaker 8: even talking about the sixties.

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Speaker 5: They were just a little bit better than the leathers.

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Speaker 8: Right right, right, And so uh that's the thing that

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Speaker 8: they wanted, uh, the NFL to to, you know, continue saying,

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Speaker 8: is forget what happened off the field. You know, he

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Speaker 8: was a good man, and but also he was a

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Speaker 8: damn good player on the field. So I just thought

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Speaker 8: that was a cool story of redemption in regard to

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Speaker 8: that entire family in a tragic, tragic situation.

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Speaker 4: So giant of a man for that era, sixty six,

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Speaker 4: two eighty.

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Speaker 2: Pounds, that's why kids did well.

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Speaker 5: It might have been too heavy for Tom, by the way, yeah,

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Speaker 5: two hundred and eighty pound offensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't forrank Stram though he was an eight time

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Speaker 4: AFL All Star.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm sure Tom, I'm sure Tom almost fainted

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Speaker 5: when Nate showed up nineteen eighty six at three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate my man, Nate all right.

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Speaker 4: That does it for mixed shots for this Wednesday, and

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Speaker 4: we will shout at you again tomorrow at high noon.

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Speaker 2: Go Cowboys.

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