1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: so much for joining us again. We're so excited to 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: be bad Ray Kathy. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: We are so excited. And folks, if you haven't done 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: it yet, I don't know. I don't know what you're doing. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: But now it's the time. Follow our podcast so you 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: don't miss an episode. All you have to do is 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: search for Bachelor Happy Hour in the podcast app and 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: make sure to hit the follow button. 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Yes, it's super important you follow the podcast so you 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: get notified every time there's a new episode. 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And we are former roommates. Remember that, 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: Yes we are. 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: Yes, I remember, Natasha, you and I had to fight 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: for closet space. 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: You remember that bunk bed, Natasha, you were a good sport. 27 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: I can tell you that. 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, indeed, so. 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: Tell me about life in New York City. 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: Life in New York City is very exciting. I have 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: to say. My most recent escapade was going to pick 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: up my granddaughter from boarding school last weekend. And what's 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: so interesting. I had asked one of my ex boyfriend 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: and to uh drive me up to pick her up 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: from boarding school, and that went really well. 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 5: On this planet? 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: What reason did you have to call an ex boyfriend 38 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: to go pick up your granddaughter at boarding school? Because 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: I know she goes to go to boarding school in Massachusetts. 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: That's not around the corner. 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: No, and h to be quite honest with you, there's 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: a number of my ex boyfriends I keep in contact with. 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: I have a good relationship. We have a good friendship 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: right after our relationship, well situationship. 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: I do too. 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: I'm with you, and there's a couple of them that 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: I have really good relationships with. 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: Are there any that Susan and I might be interested in. 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: We'll tell you what someone told me. There's a reason 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: why they're in next That's what you're saying. 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 5: Go there. 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: I want to know how was the drive up, What 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: did you talk about? 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 5: Are you reconsidering dating him? Yeah? 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: I am not reconsidering dating him. 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: Is he reconsidering you? 57 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: That? 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. That did not surface in the conversation. However, 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: I can say that ten years ago we broke up, 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: we separated, and I don't think we had closure, and 61 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: that time we spent together gave us closure in our relationship. 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: And even though we've been speaking and connecting over the 63 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: last ten years, I didn't realize and I don't think 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: he also didn't realize that we didn't have closure. We 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: spoke about that, we didn't really have closure, and there 66 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: was a whole thing that went on and between us 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: where we spoke about things and shared and really connected 68 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: in a way that allowed us to heal. And I 69 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: do honestly believe that has opened up something for me 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: away for me to now start dating in a full capacity. 71 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 5: Like wait a minute, Wait a minute, Natasha. 72 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: All this happened on an hour and a half drive 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: to western Massachusetts. 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 5: Give me a break. 75 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: Come on, excuse me, excuse me. Let me tell you 76 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: it's four hours away, because it's four field right, it's 77 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: way over it's beautifour hours away. And because he came 78 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: from Virginia to come here, I asked him to come 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 4: the day before we were leaving, and then we drove 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: up the day before Dana got out of school. 81 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 5: Where to spend the night before? Right? 82 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 4: He here? Okay, stay here. That's why we were able 83 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: to talk and connect a lot. 84 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: Right And I bet you did connect. 85 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I'm going to use your use just saying 86 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 4: I don't kiss in town. 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, So some Natasha, let me ask you something here? 88 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 5: I mean for me, I don't get all this for me. 89 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: You know, closure takes like thirty seconds goodbye, so you 90 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: know four hours. I don't know, like whatever. I'm glad though, seriously, 91 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: I'm happy for you that you guys had closure and 92 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: you can move on and you want to date, which 93 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: brings me to my question, what's dating like? 94 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 5: Are you dating? Give us the scoop? 95 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: I feel like dating in New York is challenging the men. 96 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: The female to male ratio is very high, and I 97 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: do feel like men are here in New York are 98 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 4: playing the field. I don't really find men who are 99 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 4: who seriously want to settle down. And my goal is 100 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 4: my next within the next two years, I plan to 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: leave New York and I really feel that I will 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: find someone outside of New York. However, I'm going to 103 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: get my dating chops and effect between now and the time. 104 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 5: I will tell you, Yeah, I'll tell you. 105 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: Natasha, my daughter lived and worked in New York for 106 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: several years, and she said the same thing that you know. 107 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: She's she's she dated, she had a great job, she's beautiful, 108 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: she's smart, all of that. She said she would date 109 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: a guy and then you know he'd be But what 110 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: else is out there? Like the commitment thing was a 111 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: big thing she said in New York. All right, I 112 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: have a question for you, Natasha. I know you're a 113 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: dating pro, life aging coach and all that. What's one 114 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: thing that you wish people knew about dating? As you know, 115 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: as we age. 116 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: I wish people knew how to date. The biggest thing 117 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm realizing is we were never taught how to date 118 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: as young women as adult women. And when we go 119 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: back in the dating pool in this stage, we're going 120 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: back into the dating, the dating scene with those teenager 121 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: skills we had, and who the heck goes through their 122 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: life without re upping their skills as they grow. We 123 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: don't normally do that. And if you're in the marriage, 124 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: you're you're doing that, or you know, when you're separating 125 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: from your husband or your partner, and now you go 126 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: back in the pool. You don't have the skills. I 127 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: really feel like I wish we had skills and taught 128 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: how to date. 129 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: Okay, give me the one skill, give me the one 130 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 5: skill we need. What's the skill, Susan? And I need. 131 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 4: To go on chat GPT and download questions to ask 132 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: your partner and what chat GPT and find out dating questions, 133 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: which is what I did before I went on The Bachelor. 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: I had questions the correct questions that ask People are 135 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: asking questions that are way too deep and not asking 136 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: shot questions that are that are get to know you questions. 137 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: They have more. 138 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: You mean, I shouldn't ask the guy on the first 139 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: date how many zeros are in his bank account? 140 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 5: Is that going to deep? 141 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: No, that's him. 142 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 5: That's my problem, Susan. 143 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: You really get to ask somebody like, what's your favorite 144 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 4: vacation you've been on? 145 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: You know, if I've said that one? 146 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you have meals, yeah, if. 147 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: You had a magic wand and you could and you 148 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: had all the time in the world and all the 149 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 4: money in the world, what is it that you would do? 150 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I like that. 151 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: That's a great question. These are like the questions get 152 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: to be deep, but they get to know you, questions 153 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: to know a friend. And I don't think we do that. 154 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: We we kind of get too carried away in the process, 155 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: and that's that's where we go go wrong. Women. You know, 156 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: we kind of go in and like we already got 157 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: at the altar with the guy. 158 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: I have a question, So is it not cool when 159 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: you're getting to know someone to ask them if they 160 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: know what their love language is. 161 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: I think it's too early, maybe by a third date. 162 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: You just getting to know the person. Knowing someone, wanting 163 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: to know someone's love language takes takes time. And I 164 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: also feel that it's not a cut and dry thing. 165 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: It's not like cookie cutters. Some people could have multiple 166 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: love languages is depending on. 167 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: You're looking at it. 168 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 4: I can't pass that test because I'm like, all of 169 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: these things are different from me, depending on day to 170 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 4: time of year or whatever. 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: Again, for me, Susan and I we've talked about this, 172 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: this whole love language thing. I'm like, what do you 173 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: want to know my love language. 174 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: What's your like? What you want? What I want? 175 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: The whole question confuses me, but I absolute agree with you, Natasha. 176 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: You you have to just sort of get to know 177 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: somebody first, and so with that in mind, tell me 178 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: what's your ideal. 179 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: Date, my ideal date or partner? 180 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: No, like you're going on a date. What's your idea 181 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: to date? 182 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Drinks, dinner, Netflix, chilling at home? What do you think 183 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: an activity to. 184 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 4: Get to if I want to get to know someone 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: first date, first date, coffee and maybe like a light 186 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 4: of brunch or something like. There's some very simple coffee 187 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: because if I don't like the person, I want to 188 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: be able to get up and go. 189 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 190 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: If they're good, if I'm good with them, then we 191 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: can order a little nache. 192 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: Or something to have a little notch. 193 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: So are you looking for something different in a partner 194 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: at this stage of your life? 195 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: Then you thought you were way back when and what hell? 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to take that as I'm going to 197 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: take that as affirmative. Yes, tell us, tell. 198 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: Us I am looking for someone who has the ability 199 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: to be having emotional intelligence, like a level of sensitivity 200 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 4: that we can relate communication is key, and I would 201 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: like to have someone who can be intimate. And I'm 202 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: talking about intimacy, not physical intimacy that's gonna come. I'm 203 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: talking about an intimacy of connection. Being able to pay 204 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: attention and notice, oh you you seem like you may 205 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 4: be upset or bothered or are you okay? And being 206 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 4: able to hug, being able to sit quietly or hold 207 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: hands or go for a walk in the park. Intimacy, connection, 208 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: eye gazing, really getting to know someone. And I feel like, 209 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: back to the love language question, when you do that, 210 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: you'll know what the person's love language is. When you 211 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: get to know someone, it won't you know. It doesn't 212 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: have to be quote unquote their love language. You'll know 213 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: and you'll get to know. And having intimacy allows a 214 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 4: person to feel safe, for them to drop their guard 215 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 4: and you to drop your guard, so that there's a 216 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 4: connection where you can actually be your authentic self. 217 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: And that, Susan, Susan, that's the problem for us. You, 218 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: you and I have not been our authentic self. 219 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 5: Yes we have, I know, I was kidding. That's that's 220 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 5: why we don't have anybody. 221 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: That's why because we are authentically authentically ourselves. 222 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: And I'd like to be with somebody that You're still 223 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: comfortable in silence. 224 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,479 Speaker 3: You're comfortable. 225 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 4: You heard me say that, be silent, being able to 226 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: be quiet together is The thing is, Kathy, is you 227 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: have to understand that sometimes being your authentic self is 228 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: a form of a defense mechanism, and the way it 229 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: comes across can be very brash or abrasive to someone. 230 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: So there's a level of being your authentic self where 231 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 4: you're soft and receptive with its guys, reciprocity going on, 232 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: where you're giving and receiving in exchange between the person. 233 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: So sometimes being able to fall back allows and be 234 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: having space for the person to be even s else 235 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: is not really so much about you showing who you are, 236 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: but being yourself in a space of flow. 237 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, and comfort right, be comfortable in 238 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: your own skin. What I've learned later in life was 239 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: to relax and listen because they tell you see and 240 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're nervous you go. 241 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: And I'm not. 242 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't have to do that anymore now, It's just like, Okay, 243 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: show me who you are. 244 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 4: Men are problem solvers, so men like to solve problems. 245 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: The key thing is, like you said, Susan, is to 246 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 4: be a listener. Be a listener. Listening is a skill. 247 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 5: It is a skill. 248 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: And you know, Natasha, I make a lot of jokes, 249 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: but seriously, on the dates that I have, I am 250 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: very good at asking the questions and listening, and that's 251 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: how I find out pretty down quickly whether I'm interested 252 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: or not. I think it's we talk all the time 253 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: about red flags. If you go out with someone and 254 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: they're not asking you questions and you're not having an 255 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: equal conversation, that is a red flag. That is never 256 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: going to become a white flag. So you know, may 257 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: I make a lot of jokes, but I absolutely know that. 258 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: And you give them the benefit of the doubt for 259 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: the first few minutes because people are nervous. 260 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 5: Do you say first few minutes or first few dates? 261 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 5: No minutes sinceans in a hurry, that's it. 262 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: No, I definitely agree with what you're saying. Both of 263 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: you are saying the key thing here is to find 264 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: a happy medium, and of course if no one is 265 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: someone is not talking or communicating, you know, that's a 266 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: red flag. I agree wholeheartedly with that. I feel like 267 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: a game. I feel like at this stage of the game. 268 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: Your assessment can be so quick because we've lived long 269 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: enough to you know, snuff out the nonsense. So that 270 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: makes it easier. You don't have to waste your time 271 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: with a knuckle dragger, you know what I mean? 272 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Have you met anyone that has these things that you're 273 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: looking for or some of them, some of the qualities 274 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: that you like? 275 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: Not yet? 276 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: Not? 277 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: All right, Well she hasn't. But well, I want to 278 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: talk about Joan for a minute. We know she's going 279 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: to be the Golden Bachelorette. 280 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: And we're all excited. 281 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: We're so excited, So come on, tell us what do 282 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: you think about her being the Golden Bachelor. 283 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: At I think it's awesome. I love Joan. She first 284 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: of all, she's very beautiful woman. We all are, and 285 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: she's a beautiful woman who does not allow her beauty 286 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: to impact who she is. And I feel like a 287 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: lot most of us in the house were like that. 288 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: We did not allow our gifts to ope with shadow 289 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: who we were. And I feel like joon o'll be 290 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: is very even killed and she has her her brain 291 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: is you know good, She'll make her assessments is spot on. 292 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 4: She's a lot of fun and I feel like Joan 293 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: has great discernment in this process. I wish her all 294 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: the best. I know she's going to do, be excellent 295 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 4: in the role, and I don't Joan has three. 296 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 5: Children, I believe four. 297 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 4: I think she has four, four children and grandchildren, so 298 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: she's not going to be up for the Shenanigans. 299 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for the bachelors that are 300 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: going on her show? 301 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: What would you tell them if they asked you for advice? 302 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 4: I would tell them to be their authentic self, to 303 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: take their time. I'm in how they present to her, 304 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: be honest, right, and they get to do a little 305 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: research and find out what is it that she's looking for. 306 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's out there. We we you know, all 307 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: our information is out there. So they get to do research, 308 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 4: figure out what she wants. And don't don't come half 309 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 4: step in because that's our sister and we we will 310 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: come if you try to play a trick on her, 311 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: laugh a little bit. 312 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: To make her laugh and and have a good time. 313 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: Exactly all right. 314 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 5: So wait, I have a question, Natasha. 315 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: Everyone, your your ear rings, your your comments on chairs 316 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: is is infamous. It goes down in history and the 317 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: earring Yo, she's got on her chair earrings. 318 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 5: Look at that all right? 319 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: Other than chairs at the rows ceremonies, Are there any 320 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: other accommodations for these for this season that you'd like 321 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: to see the upcoming Golden Bachelorette? 322 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 4: Uh? I don't know. If men would need chairs, definitely 323 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: no women would need chairs. And I would actually request 324 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: that Jones sits in a chair while she. 325 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: Cushion those wooden things that you stand. 326 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I would tell these guys to to really just 327 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: just be friends. I mean I think that that is so. 328 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: I know it's competitive, and men are way more competitive 329 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: than women. I feel like as a coach they definitely 330 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: we have been given advice forever. And of course that 331 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 4: goes without. 332 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: Saying so, let's let's go back to people midlife Golden 333 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: who feel discouraged in the dating scene, like some people 334 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: aren't comfortable with dating apps, and how do you feel 335 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: about that? 336 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: Or then I talked about that a couple of weeks 337 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 4: ago on a show. I would basically say to them, 338 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 4: don't give up. You still have a lot of life 339 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: to live. You got to kiss a lot of frogs 340 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: before you get your prints, and you know, in our life, 341 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: right in our life. We go on, we try, try 342 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: and try again and that one time or twice that happened. 343 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: Find a way. If dating apps don't work for you, 344 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: then find like find a way to interact. There's so 345 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: many ways. You can learn a language, start a new hobby, 346 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: you can take a class, all these places you'll meet 347 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: people in your effic to start dating. It doesn't matter 348 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: me dating or oriented. It could be you're putting yourself 349 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: in different environments or joint organizations where you get a 350 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 4: chance to meet people, even organizations from your your past 351 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: working experience or careers. Right Heep added, I know it's discouraging, 352 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: and it's okay. We get discouraged a lot, but it 353 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: doesn't mean we get to sit down and stop living. 354 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 4: You know. 355 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: What about the self love? 356 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: That how everybody starts seeing the image that they don't 357 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: want to see in their older years, golden years. Their 358 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: bodies change, their lives change, their work changes, or they're 359 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: retired and they don't go out like have. 360 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: You been on my Instagram page? Well, you know this 361 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 4: is part of here's what I have to say, and 362 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 4: I'll say it very quickly. This is a long, big topic. 363 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: I feel that from birth to about thirty nine. We're taught, 364 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: and we understand that there's a lot of losses and 365 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: grieving through that part, right We grieve toddlerhood to childhood, 366 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: to teens, to twins, to adulthood. We know about pregnancy, 367 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: we know about marriage, we know about all of that. 368 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: Nobody tells us about what's happening after you hit forty. 369 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 4: And because a lot of us don't understand or know 370 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 4: about menopause, peri menopause, empty nesting, possibly divorced, career changes, parenting, caretaking, 371 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 4: all that stuff, no one talks about it. So we 372 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: can depress to this, you really, because the reality is 373 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: is that this is what happens. And if we were 374 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: educated about it, we would know that we're not going 375 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: to keep that slim, trim body and it's okay to 376 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: get a little belly or gain some weight and get 377 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: used to seeing the hair. You're going to have these changes. 378 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: And imagine if you got pregnant and didn't know your 379 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: belly was gonna get big, how that would freak you out? 380 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: If you educated to know your head is gonna get grid, 381 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: you're gonna get this belly, You're gonna have these things. 382 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 4: It's okay. 383 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: You know, how do we tell them to love themselves? Again? 384 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean exactly, it's acceptance. 385 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 4: Acceptance comes in increments, right, So you must accept a 386 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 4: little at a time, a little at the time. 387 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 5: But don't know, Tasha, don't you think? 388 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: Also sort of as we age, building uh self love 389 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: means building some and changing some of our habits to 390 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: adapt to how we are aging. So it's maybe, as 391 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: you say, maybe you have to move a little more, 392 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: or you have to change what you eat, and it's 393 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 2: you know, pasapasa, step by step. You gotta you can't 394 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: make a million changes at one time, but a little 395 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: change can have a dramatic effect. 396 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's the acceptance part. It's like, oh, I 397 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: noticed I'm putting on some Let me start exercises, or 398 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 4: let me change my diet, or let me go meet 399 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 4: with a nutritionist. These small steps of accepting, and you're 400 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 4: loving yourself in the process. And it happens like you 401 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 4: start saying, I get like I'm tired of taking care 402 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 4: of everybody else. We as women, mothers, do that it's 403 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: time to turn the focus on me. What is it 404 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: that I get to do to love myself? Maybe I 405 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 4: need to make regular doctor's appointments, go to the dentist, 406 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: do a facial once a month, Start exercising, change my 407 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 4: eating and it takes excise. 408 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: How many times did I tell you? Yeah, finally started exercising. 409 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: However, I can't change the way I eat yet. 410 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: That's fine. 411 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: That's one step, dude. It's one step at a time, 412 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: and you get changed. Susan, you gave up champs, so 413 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: I did good on you. Yes, all right, Well, Tasha, 414 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm a little afraid to ask us, but we're gonna 415 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: close out this part of our lovely time with you. 416 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 5: Okay, natashauld be kind. 417 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: You know I come across as brash, but really I 418 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: can break down in tears at a moment to notice. 419 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: What's your dating advice for us? Don't hold back? Come on, 420 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: what is it? 421 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: Give it? Harry? 422 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 4: I say, you both have a great sense of humor. 423 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: Keep that up. I would say to take your time, 424 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 4: hold back, fall back and really go on chat ep 425 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 4: and find out ten questions that you can ask that 426 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 4: will support you in dating to get to know someone, 427 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: and that will allow you to put that question out 428 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: there and then get the flood of information you get 429 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 4: to have so that you can make a choice you 430 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: both are very loving and kind women. I know. I 431 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: was in a room with you all and you have 432 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: both have big hearts, and you have a big you have. 433 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: A big big man, comedy, big comedy, big fun. 434 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: You both love to have fun, and I think you 435 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 4: have everything you need. We get to have men, I say, we, 436 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: including me, who are not intimidated by women who are 437 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: so self assured as we are. 438 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: And you know, they always say they want a woman 439 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: that's self sufficient, that's self you know, and they really don't. 440 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think they know what that means. 441 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 3: When you're a strong, independent woman. 442 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: Men. So I want an independent woman, and we are independent. 443 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: We take care of ourselves. We're doing our own lives 444 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: and we want to share it with someone. 445 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: And that's intimidating to a lot of men. 446 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 5: We just got to find the ones that's not. 447 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: At the same time, we've been doing this so long. 448 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: We it's not only them. We have to learn to 449 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 4: fall back. We have to learn to have some allowing 450 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: in the process. We have to learn not to be 451 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 4: so stuck in our ways where we begin to allow 452 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 4: them to be who they are and not want them 453 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: to conform to our way. This way. 454 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: That was my problem. 455 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: I would conform to all their ways, and then six 456 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: months in. 457 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, communication is key, that's. 458 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: That's our middle word. 459 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah. 460 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: So we have a question from one of our fans 461 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: and they'd like some advice with all of us. And 462 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: this one is from Saphina. She's seventy one and she's 463 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: from Atlanta. I love the Golden Hour podcast. 464 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Thank you. 465 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: Finally a podcast from some people I can relate to. 466 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: I thought i'd write in because I've been struggling with 467 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: my self confidence lately and it's holding me back from dating. 468 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: When I see pictures of my from twenties, thirties, forties, 469 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: I look so beautiful when I look in the mirror. Now, 470 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: I fear my best days are behind me, and it's 471 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: been holding me back from putting myself out there. I 472 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: never imagine being single at this age, and I wish 473 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: the younger version of me could be what my potential 474 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: suitors were seeing. I really want to meet someone, but 475 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: all the men my age and older are dating much 476 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: younger women, and I'm beginning to feel discouraged. Would love 477 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on this and if you have 478 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: any advice for me. Love you ladies all, Sephina, and 479 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: thanks for writing in. And you know what, we all 480 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: look back at our pictures. I was hot once upon 481 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: a time. 482 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: What do you think, Natasha? Come on, what do you 483 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: think for Safina? Give some gold here. 484 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: Confidence has nothing to do with your with what you 485 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: look like or what you wear. Confidence is an inside job, 486 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: like happiness, like love, like joy. And she gets to 487 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: look at who she's become over these years and she 488 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: still is that young version of herself and bring that forward, 489 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: bring the youthful energy of who she is to the 490 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: foreground and live in that space and stop worrying about 491 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: what people think and worrying about who's. 492 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's funny, so beautiful. 493 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: She's still beautiful spring herself and comparison will kill you. 494 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know what I have done. 495 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here looking at this and thinking, Sephena, you 496 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: have matured you. I don't want to be my younger self. 497 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: I have gained so much knowledge and experience and have 498 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: had the highest of highs. I've had the best love, 499 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: I've suffered the greatest losses. All of those things have 500 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: made me who I am today. That's who I want 501 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: someone to fall in love with, not some picture of 502 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: me when you know I was twenty or twenty five. So, Sophia, 503 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: I think you need to rethink what it is you're 504 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: looking for and what you think men are looking for, 505 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: because you don't want a guy. 506 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 5: You don't want a guy that's looking for a twenty 507 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: year old. 508 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Sephina, there's one thing you said that I'm going to 509 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: disagree with. Your best days are behind you? Oh no 510 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: they're not, Sweetie. This is the best chapter ever. Go out, 511 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: be you, be you, enjoy you, and someone else will too. 512 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 5: Natasha, do you think it takes a lot of courage. 513 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing. 514 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: I think people our age sometimes they think we think 515 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: we're the only ones dealing with this. And I think 516 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, when you were talking earlier about going out 517 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: and going to, you know, different venues to meet people, 518 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: I think we all need to remember right that we're 519 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: all scared. We're all in that same boat. So it's 520 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: just being you. And do you agree with that or not? 521 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: I agree practice makes perfect. The more you go out, 522 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: the more you get to know people and go into 523 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: different venues for dating or getting to know people, it 524 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: becomes easier. It's when you rarely do it, and you 525 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 4: it's you don't. 526 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 5: It's the word. 527 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird, it's awkward. You're socially awkward. And I 528 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: know it's taken me years to be able to step 529 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: into new environments confidently. However, you must do it. I 530 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: notice the more I go out, the more I'm circulating, 531 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: the easier it comes. 532 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Or temper the troul about yourself. Take a little trip 533 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: by yourself. It doesn't have to be long, it doesn't 534 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: even have to be far. Just go be with yourself. 535 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: You never know who you're going to meet, and that's okay. 536 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: If you didn't meet anybody you did you. 537 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: Sit right down and see what is she want? Like, 538 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 4: sit down and write on the paper. She may not 539 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 4: even know who she's looking for because she hasn't even 540 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: evaluated what am I looking for? The question you all 541 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: ask me what am I looking for in a partner? 542 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: Right now? What are the what are my pros? And 543 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: what are my cons? And if you have a long 544 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: list of negatives and not enough positive you got you 545 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: got a lot of work to do. 546 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: Natasha, you are absolutely fabulous and you're spot on. Thank 547 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: you so much for coming and talking with us today 548 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: and just sit out some great advice ladies and gentlemen. 549 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: That does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy Hours 550 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: Golden Hour. 551 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Natasha. 552 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 5: We have loved catching up with you. Natasha. 553 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: As always, you always have great advice and we hope 554 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: that you all will follow us on Bachelor Bachelor Happy 555 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: Hour as we have new episodes coming out every week. 556 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: If you enjoyed today with Natasha, you're gonna love what's 557 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: coming up. 558 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Next, and make sure to submit those questions because we 559 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: do want to answer them. 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