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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I'm Buck, and as I said, we

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Speaker 1: are going to have someone joining us you in a

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Speaker 1: moment to talk about what it means to be targeted

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Speaker 1: by the left and then to have some people on

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Speaker 1: the right come after you as well because of a

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Speaker 1: profile piece, in this case by The New York Times.

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Speaker 1: It involves a company that I've known and worked with

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Speaker 1: for years as a sponsor in the past. The founders

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Speaker 1: are friends, They're patriots, They're great guys, and so I

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Speaker 1: want you to know that before we talking about this,

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Speaker 1: because I know there are a lot of people right

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Speaker 1: now that based on this New York Times profile or

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Speaker 1: asking questions, and Clay is going to be weighing into

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Speaker 1: to make sure that we get answers to all of that.

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Speaker 1: But the piece was can the Black Rifle Coffee Company

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Speaker 1: become the Starbucks of the right? The company doubled its

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Speaker 1: sales last year by leading into America's culture War. It's

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Speaker 1: also trying to distance itself from some of its new customers. Now,

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Speaker 1: there were some quotes in the piece that got a

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Speaker 1: lot of people on the right over the weekend, at

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Speaker 1: least judging by social media upset. We wanted to offer

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Black Rifle Coffee is a veteran of

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Speaker 1: the United States United States Special Forces towards an a

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Speaker 1: Rock and Afghanistan. We wanted to offer him this opportunity

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Speaker 1: on this platform to just clarify exactly what his company's

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Speaker 1: mission statement is, what they do, what they really believe.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Evan Hey for the CEO of Black Rifle. Now, Evan,

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Speaker 1: good to have you on Buck. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me on. I we love the show. I

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Speaker 1: love being on it. I can't wait to dive in. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: tell us just what happened here? Why are you guys

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Speaker 1: getting pushed back because you know the left comes after

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Speaker 1: you because you very openly stand for patriotism, the flags,

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, the First Amendment. Right, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot that the left hates about what the brand represents.

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Speaker 1: But people on the right are upset too. Some of

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Speaker 1: them are why right, you know, I think it's to

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Speaker 1: be expected from a portion of the country on the left,

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Speaker 1: which is everything like just our way of life, what

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Speaker 1: we stand for you know, we want to build a

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Speaker 1: great company. We roast coffee. But who we stand for

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Speaker 1: is the American service members, law enforcement, military, the people

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Speaker 1: that go out put their lives on the line every

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Speaker 1: day for this country. Want to serve them a great

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Speaker 1: cup of coffee and continue to reward those people that

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Speaker 1: protect and serve our communities every day, whether it's in

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Speaker 1: the United States or overseas. And I built my entire

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Speaker 1: company on roasting great coffee. It's or a roasting coffee

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Speaker 1: one pound of a time over fifteen years ago to

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Speaker 1: take with me to Iraq. We started this company, you know,

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen or I did, quite literally just to

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Speaker 1: start roasting coffee, giving back the veteran community. And my

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Speaker 1: way of life is directly derogative worry towards a portional

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Speaker 1: left which they don't like freedom, they don't like fun,

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Speaker 1: they don't like firearms, they don't like God, they don't

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Speaker 1: like the first of the Second Amendments, they don't like

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Speaker 1: just what we do every day. So I fully intend

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Speaker 1: and expect to get flats on the left just by

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Speaker 1: being me. I think with the Times article, the proposal

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Speaker 1: to us and wasn't proposal they called us back in March,

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Speaker 1: in Florida for a NASCAR race, and we debated whether

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Speaker 1: or not we would participate even with the Times, and

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Speaker 1: we ultimately came to the conclusion, which is, we can

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Speaker 1: give somebody an opportunity to give an objective look at

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Speaker 1: the company. Whether they use that opportunity to really talk

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Speaker 1: about veterans related issues and things like that that we presented,

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Speaker 1: that's up to them. But we fully figure that there

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Speaker 1: try to be derogatory or reflect negatively on the company.

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Speaker 1: Evan appreciate you coming on Clay here, so I know

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Speaker 1: the feeling when you have a hit piece coming. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Buck does too. But whether it's Politico, whether it's

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Speaker 1: The Daily Beast, whether it's the Washington Post, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know when you talk to someone that isn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: in a way that reflects everything that you talked about.

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Speaker 1: So first question for you, when did you read the

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Speaker 1: you of your interaction with The New York Times. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think you kind of have to go back before

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Speaker 1: I read it, because I think my first feeling on

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Speaker 1: laundry list of questions. A lot of them were just

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Speaker 1: that the facts were correct. So when did we start

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Speaker 1: the company, who started the company? When did we start

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Speaker 1: roasting copy? All of those things were correct, meaning my

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Speaker 1: years in service, where did I start overseas? Get the

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Speaker 1: obviously this is contextual them my life. And the first

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Speaker 1: I were somehow saying misrepresentative or slanderous statements towards conservatives,

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Speaker 1: And that was like blatantly obvious, right, So Evan, just

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Speaker 1: so we're clear here, they quoted you guys as saying

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Speaker 1: in this article, it's such a repugnant group of people.

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Speaker 1: It's like the worst of American society, some of the

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Speaker 1: people that hijacked portions of the brand. And so that's

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Speaker 1: that's the one quote. That's the quote that's all over

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Speaker 1: social media. That's what's got people. That's what has some

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Speaker 1: of your people, my people, right, people on the right

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Speaker 1: who share our values upset. They saw that headline, they're upset.

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Speaker 1: Address for us now, both what was left out there

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Speaker 1: you know, because they feel like, oh, I'm they've been

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Speaker 1: I think first it's I'm a conservative and there's absolutely

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Speaker 1: racism and anti semitism, and what was happening to the

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Speaker 1: an electronic attack that was organized by anti semitics, and

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Speaker 1: and they were making death threats, they were posting memes.

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Speaker 1: We've seen this dark under belly of the internet. Whether

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Speaker 1: was saying, these people that are blatantly racist and anti Semitic,

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Speaker 1: were and they attack. Now, the way that was woven

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Speaker 1: it sounds like what you're telling us is that is

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Speaker 1: it sounds to be like that that's what you're saying

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Speaker 1: happened here? Is that? Is that a fair version of events,

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Speaker 1: that is a hundred percent accurate. The only time that

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Speaker 1: And I stand by that today. So there's a complete

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Speaker 1: disconnection between what we're referring to in our customer base

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Speaker 1: was a direct misrepresentation of what I was speaking of, Evan.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is certainly getting

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Speaker 1: immediately gets lumped in with you. Is that just a

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Speaker 1: And I think, well, one, it's an unrealistic expectation that

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Speaker 1: I absolutely know that there's a double standard, specifically with

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Speaker 1: I think mainstream media to villainize small American companies that

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Speaker 1: I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the regard, but I

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Speaker 1: We've only just got time for one more quick thing,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to know, I want you to

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Speaker 1: let everyone know if you were to estimate how many,

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Speaker 1: and just for full disclosure, my show, stretching back now,

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Speaker 1: for five years when I was doing my own syndicated show,

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Speaker 1: had Black Rifle as a sponsor at various times. How

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Speaker 1: many conservative media entities, content creators, podcasts has Black Rifle

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Speaker 1: which is people that don't actually believe that free speech,

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Speaker 1: believe that everyone being the same, the politics of radical

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Speaker 1: envy should be driving the way you run a country,

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Speaker 1: meaning that you pull people down and make them miserable

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Speaker 1: as long as everybody except the revolutionary elite, who in

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Speaker 1: exactly what we say they are. They're exactly who we

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Speaker 1: so as you work through all of the flaws in

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Speaker 1: coming from. Colored in a large extent, by believing that

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Speaker 1: States should go. That is her belief and that is

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Speaker 1: the belief system that motivates her. And I'm putting this

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Speaker 1: There is an underlying comparison to that people often make.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about racial Marxism versus traditional Pascal Marxism right.

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Speaker 1: If you go back to Marxist theory, there's oppression of

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Speaker 1: And if only you will empower a progressive vanguard, essentially

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Speaker 1: the same way. But you see the problems all still persist.

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Speaker 1: What's equal and what power do you have? In the

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Speaker 1: state's hands to do that. How do you incentivize people

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Speaker 1: to work, How do you incentivize people to labor and

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Speaker 1: to do their very best all the time if there's

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Speaker 1: no actual upside to it for them, it ignores human

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Speaker 1: nature and replaces it with flawed ideas about state power

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Speaker 1: and how utopia is possible. So this is why they're

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Speaker 1: to bring it all back to center here, Clay. This

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Speaker 1: is why they're fond of communist Cuba, because they feel

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Speaker 1: like at least they gave it a shot, and why

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Speaker 1: they took multiple days to say communism is bad. Jen Saki,

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Speaker 1: just blatantly saying, hey, you know, communism is bad, We're

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Speaker 1: not in favor of it. Twenty years ago. Buck, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to believe it's been almost twenty years. The Tunnel

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Speaker 1: chairman and CEO Frank Seller, paying tribute to the fallen

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Speaker 1: twenty years. What can you do to help? Buck? You know,

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Speaker 1: help America keep its commitment to never forget. All right,

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Speaker 1: out the Monday edition of the OutKick program byam Play

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Speaker 1: Travisy is Buck Sexton. We are rolling through we will

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Speaker 1: hopefully be an interesting week. I want to update you

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Speaker 1: the story. We started off the show talking about the

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Speaker 1: stock market with its worst day in the Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: administration so far as we currently speak, down a little

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Speaker 1: bit over nine hundred points, amid fears coming out of

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Speaker 1: England and Israel and also the United States about rising

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Speaker 1: number of infections even with vaccines potentially underway. Buck, we

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Speaker 1: have talked a decent amount about this story in general,

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Speaker 1: but it's not going away. Obviously, last week we discussed

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Speaker 1: the fact that LA was reinstituting its mask mandate, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably where we are headed. Is that

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Speaker 1: is going to spread? And so the big question, and

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Speaker 1: about the data that is out there with everyone right now,

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Speaker 1: is how pronounced is this going to become going forward

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Speaker 1: in terms of cases, hospitalizations, everything else. And England while

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Speaker 1: we were doing our show this hour, announced that there

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Speaker 1: are now three thousand, eight hundred and thirteen people in

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Speaker 1: hospitals with COVID. That is the most since March twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: and sixty percent of those hospitalized have received both COVID vaccines.

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Speaker 1: So that is data that is out there since we

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Speaker 1: started the show, and that is motivating. I think some

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Speaker 1: of the stock market reaction today as fears about COVID

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Speaker 1: and maybe the vaccines and how well they're working, is

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Speaker 1: continuing to grow. Let's see what John in o'calla, Florida

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Speaker 1: has to say, John, you're want to play Traffison buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton show. Thank you so much, gentlemen. I appreciate your show,

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Speaker 1: listening to you every day and this Russian you know

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Speaker 1: so much. Thank you. I'm a day I'm a day trader.

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Speaker 1: Day traders or people at trade stocks on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: Hold it maybe a week or so, the maximum a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. What we cannot do is we cannot

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Speaker 1: drop the market. We can only make the market go

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Speaker 1: up if all the day traders like myself got together.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't buck the institutions. We follow the institutions. What

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Speaker 1: are the institutions? Trade station, interactive brokers, the banks, Nash Nations.

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Speaker 1: China is real big in the markets. So for the

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Speaker 1: last ten years, the markets are being going up and

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Speaker 1: up and up and up and up. The rich people

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Speaker 1: like the Gates, the Broombergs, the Getties, the Suroses, they

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Speaker 1: hold stocks for they don't care if it's ten years

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Speaker 1: who cares. So they bought it low ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: They're holding the stocks now at hime they're making an

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Speaker 1: incredible profit. They're wiping out the little people like myself

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Speaker 1: getting wiped out day after day after day with these

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Speaker 1: the huge drops and h and then they'll buy it

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Speaker 1: back up again. When yeah, I appreciate, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's worth mentioning buck that the stock market

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Speaker 1: has been at all time highs. And I always say, look,

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Speaker 1: and I would say this to anybody out there who's

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Speaker 1: listening to us. I understand the goal to be wealthy.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the great things about capitalism is

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Speaker 1: all of us can aspire to great wealth. But ultimately

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Speaker 1: the only way you can get wealthy in really significant

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Speaker 1: fashion is by having some exposure to the stock stock

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Speaker 1: market over your time. You have to own assets. You

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Speaker 1: have to own assets, you have to own stocks, you

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Speaker 1: have to own a company, which and so everybody's got

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Speaker 1: to start somewhere, So I don't know what his overall point, though,

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Speaker 1: is the market if you just buy SMP five hundred

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Speaker 1: index funds or whatever you buy, has been up a

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Speaker 1: lot now. We saw in March of twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 1: this is where we started the show, the fear surrounding

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Speaker 1: COVID tank the market, and the question is could that

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Speaker 1: potentially happen again? Yeah, I think I think we'll see

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Speaker 1: a market rebound pretty soon here, just because I don't

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Speaker 1: believe things are going to be as bad on the

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Speaker 1: COVID front as the media is saying right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: very suspicious, but I look, this is one of these

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Speaker 1: times when actually usually I hope I'm wrong about the

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Speaker 1: COVID stuff. Now I hope I'm right, because if I

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Speaker 1: you know, well, well I am. I'm nervous. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. I'm nervous about the data coming

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Speaker 1: out of England because the pathway to reopening the country

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Speaker 1: has been Hey, anybody can get the COVID. You're right,

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Speaker 1: We're in a totally different world and about about COVID

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Speaker 1: at least and the conversation has to shift dramatically about

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Speaker 1: what we're really dealing with here or how we're going

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Speaker 1: to handle it. And there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who aren't going to want to do that because they

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Speaker 1: would prefer to continue on with what has not worked. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be this this this definition of insanity

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Speaker 1: is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to be the hallmark of fauciism.

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Speaker 1: If in fact, we find that vaccines either have a

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Speaker 1: or if they don't extend protection as long as we thought,

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Speaker 1: we have to rethink all because where the whole pitch

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Speaker 1: was gotta get vaccinated as fast as possible. Everyone's got

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Speaker 1: to get vaccinated. That's why we That's how we get saved,

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Speaker 1: that's how this goes away. If that turns out to

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Speaker 1: we've been told about how we do truly go back

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Speaker 1: to normal, And that's going to mean people have to

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Speaker 1: to accept that there this is what I've been saying

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Speaker 1: along the government cannot protect you, but from everything, but

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Speaker 1: can endlessly annoy you and deal with and make things

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Speaker 1: worse for you. So that's something to remember as we're

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Speaker 1: looking at how this all shakes out in the week,

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Speaker 1: said Clay, I want and I was going to make

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Speaker 1: fun of Brian Stelter today so we can have some

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Speaker 1: fun at the end. Instead, we're talking some glue and

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Speaker 1: play here, So we'll play the Stelter and have some

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Speaker 1: fun to start the show tomorrow. That'll be a good

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Speaker 1: way to get things off and underway. Go subscribe to

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Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you. But man, I hope, I

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Speaker 1: hope the COVID madness is not remerging, but I'm afraid

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