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Speaker 2: Spoder Club said this for Travis Hunter, it wasn't a
Speaker 2: dry eye in the house. It wasn't a dry eye
Speaker 2: in America. I don't cry much, but man I cried
Speaker 2: for this young man.
Speaker 1: It would.
Speaker 2: I mean, look the love that he showed Coach Prime,
Speaker 2: because he said Coach Prime was the one that believed
Speaker 2: in him and said that, you know, I can play
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, and Prime treated him like
Speaker 2: his own son.
Speaker 1: He's always looked.
Speaker 2: Out after me like you know, he trusted He's trusted
Speaker 2: Coach Prime because a talent like this, the likelihood of
Speaker 2: you getting the number one overall college high school player
Speaker 2: I'll come to an HBCU is not very good. And
Speaker 2: then he followed. He trusted him so much. When he left,
Speaker 2: he could have went to a lot of There are
Speaker 2: a lot of D one schools that had the bag
Speaker 2: for him. He says, No, I believe in Coach Prime.
Speaker 2: Coach Prime. I followed Coach Prime to j State. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna follow him to see you. And it's more than
Speaker 2: nobody in the history of college won more awards in
Speaker 2: a season than what this young man did this year.
Speaker 2: He wanted to belt the car, he wanted the Girsky,
Speaker 2: he wanted No, he wonted the Butnerik, he wanted to
Speaker 2: Ronnie Lott. He won the Heisman. He was he won
Speaker 2: it all. And you can tell, you can tell he's
Speaker 2: such a humble kid. He wants to do the right thing.
Speaker 2: Yes he's green, Yes he's young. We were all young,
Speaker 2: we were all green, We all made mistakes. But it's
Speaker 2: hard not to root for the kid, it really is.
Speaker 2: And I know, look, I know people like GENTI should
Speaker 2: have won, and he would have said that genty you know,
Speaker 2: I look, and look, we've seen guys have rushing seasons
Speaker 2: like this. We've never seen and we might not ever
Speaker 2: see a guy do what he's been able to do
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball at the level in
Speaker 2: which he's done it. I'm not to take snaps out
Speaker 2: of it. People like snaps is not a stat. Do
Speaker 2: you believe have you ever seen anybody in your lifetime?
Speaker 2: I'm talking about somebody fifty or younger, So I'm gonna say,
Speaker 2: between the ages of fifty and thirty five, have you
Speaker 2: ever seen somebody at the collegiate level play at the
Speaker 2: level in which he played this year? I don't believe
Speaker 2: you can say you can't, and that's why he won
Speaker 2: the award. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for
Speaker 2: him family. It was, it was, It was great. His
Speaker 2: speech was great. Well deserved, well deserved. Oh Joe Travis
Speaker 2: Hunter is the Associate AP College Football Players of the Year.
Speaker 2: He received twenty six of forty three votes on a
Speaker 2: panel at top twenty five voters. Hunter kept piling up
Speaker 2: the hardware. He also won the Walter Camp Player of
Speaker 2: the Year Award, along with the Chuck mcnerrick Ward as
Speaker 2: top Receiver and the Bullet the Golf Award no the
Speaker 2: Chuck mcnerritt as the top defensive player. And the Bullet
Speaker 2: and the Kop Award as the top receiver, and he
Speaker 2: should have won the Thorpe Award matter of fact, but
Speaker 2: they didn't.
Speaker 1: Want because if he'dn't won that, nobody else.
Speaker 2: I don't believe another player would have ever won these
Speaker 2: World War votes.
Speaker 1: That's that's not the only one. He got one more
Speaker 1: coming to now, Oh yeah, he got he got one more.
Speaker 1: He got one more coming. That's some that's some good hardware.
Speaker 1: Two before the draft. That's a rib that hard well.
Speaker 1: But Ojo, does the Thorpe understand how that looks? I'm
Speaker 1: not saying.
Speaker 2: Let's just say the second argument, Ojo, he doesn't win
Speaker 2: the award, But do you know how that looks when
Speaker 2: you don't have him as a finalist and he just
Speaker 2: won the Chuck mc nerrick as the I as the player,
Speaker 2: if dB not on the difference.
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're doing. They don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Okay, we can't give him everything. We can't do.
Speaker 1: Why do you care because they didn't? You know, you
Speaker 1: know how they are? You know, do you know how
Speaker 1: the people are the people that are in positions of power.
Speaker 1: You know, we were gonna find a way We're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way around it. We're gonna find some type
Speaker 1: of excuse. And I would love I would love to
Speaker 1: hear the reasoning behind whoever makes the decision on whether
Speaker 1: he wins it or not. Why wouldn't you give it
Speaker 1: to him? What's the great? Did you watch him play?
Speaker 1: Do you actually understand the game of football and what
Speaker 1: he was able to do this season as a defensive back? No,
Speaker 1: come on, now, it's always personal, to always personal. He
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal season. He had a phenomenal season.
Speaker 2: The number ten boys in State grams the College Football
Speaker 2: playoff spot, beating the number nineteen u NLB running rems
Speaker 2: in the Mountain West Championship. Aston genty thirty two carries,
Speaker 2: two hundred and nine yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Many believed that he closed the gap.
Speaker 2: Some think might he might have overtaken Travis Hunter, who
Speaker 2: was off. I don't because his odds did fall o Joe,
Speaker 2: because the young man was he not like one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifteen hundred.
Speaker 1: Sixty yards away record.
Speaker 2: Ask give me his total numbers now, because I think
Speaker 2: he has three hundred and forty four. I think he
Speaker 2: had two twelve three, He had three twelve thirty two,
Speaker 2: three forty four, so he had three hundred and forty
Speaker 2: four carries. But I still think he's one hundred and
Speaker 2: something one hundred and fifty yards. Let's just say give
Speaker 2: or take ten yards from Barry's single season rushing record,
Speaker 2: like I said, Bowl game. So he's going. He's got
Speaker 2: another game to play. And the thing that gets him
Speaker 2: oho is that he's gonna pop one every If you
Speaker 2: go back and look, he popped by thirty forty fifty
Speaker 2: sixty eighty yarder. So now he's playing with house money
Speaker 2: because if I give him, if he pops one for
Speaker 2: seventy eighty yards, oh Joe, I give him the ball
Speaker 2: twenty more times.
Speaker 1: He's just have at least like I don't listen, I
Speaker 1: don't think people understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ojo, before you go, Ojo, he has three hundred
Speaker 2: and forty four carries.
Speaker 1: He's three yards short of twenty five hundred.
Speaker 2: Uh so he needs I think Barry had twenty six
Speaker 2: twenty eight, So he needs one hundred and one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty two yards to break Barry's single season rushingtone.
Speaker 2: Now remember, now, Ojo, Barry did play in the Holiday Bowl.
Speaker 2: He rushed for two twenty five and five touchdowns, but
Speaker 2: those stats didn't count, and a lot of NFL players
Speaker 2: are voicing their support for Aston Genty. Jonathan Stewart Aston
Speaker 2: Jenny is the Heisman winner. If you swapped Colorado, they
Speaker 2: are in the top ten team. Matt Lionard rock Heward
Speaker 2: said Aston Genty should wear the Heisman trophy.
Speaker 1: That disagreement. I just want to name all the people
Speaker 1: that have done what is done. No disrespect, no disrespect
Speaker 1: to him, you know, kudos, salute, you know for his
Speaker 1: achievement this season. Barry Sander has been a two thousand
Speaker 1: yard Russian college Am I correct? Melvin Gordon has been
Speaker 1: a two thousand yard Russian in college as well. Am
Speaker 1: I correct? Marcus Allen, Am I correct? Yes? Okay, Derrick
Speaker 1: Hendry Russian college ladle and Thomlinson? Am I correct? Adrian
Speaker 1: Peak Wait wait a minute, Yes, No, I mean I
Speaker 1: meant to say sixtieth freshman year. He did it twice,
Speaker 1: Toroy David, you went to twic down here, down here,
Speaker 1: down south to Miami. Let me keep going. Matt Fote
Speaker 1: had a thousand, right, two thousand correct? Ricky William two
Speaker 1: thousands had a two thousand yard season. Correct. R Larry
Speaker 1: Johnson Kansas City and Plavas and Dady Larry Johnson had
Speaker 1: a two thousand and Smith from Central Florida had a
Speaker 1: two thousand yard season. Right, Ron Daane, I'm still going
Speaker 1: on and on and on the people that achieved exactly
Speaker 1: what Ashton Genty has done with Travis Hunter has done
Speaker 1: this season on both sides of the ball hasn't been
Speaker 1: done before a It hasn't been at the level at
Speaker 1: the level he's done it. Yes, we've had the way
Speaker 1: players we had the charge will Sins, you know, were the.
Speaker 4: Champ Bailees is it Chris Ohio stated they've done it,
Speaker 4: but they didn't do it to the extent in which
Speaker 4: he did it. Every goddamn snap of the season, both
Speaker 4: sides of the ball of fishing on both sides of
Speaker 4: the ball.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I respect what Ashley, what brother Genti
Speaker 1: has done, but everybody's done it. Nobody's done what Travis
Speaker 1: Hunter has done this year on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball and the offensive side of the ball. Every snap.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, what are we talking about? And that's
Speaker 1: no disrespect the brother, my brother from Boise State. Man,
Speaker 1: you had a hell of a season. But what Travis
Speaker 1: Hunter did this year, man is different.
Speaker 2: Man, some some mold.
Speaker 1: That's some old alien type.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, know that I'm gonna let you finished.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the wrong Yeah for me,
Speaker 1: I I I for me.
Speaker 2: I think Travis Hunter is the best collegiate player in
Speaker 2: college football. And I'm not talking about snaps because snaps
Speaker 2: is not a stat But I'm saying, if you look
Speaker 2: at what he did on the officer side of the football,
Speaker 2: you look at what he's done on the defensive side
Speaker 2: of the football, It's hard for me to say that
Speaker 2: there's a I've seen a better college player.
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've seen I don't know if
Speaker 2: we've seen a better college athlete that play the game
Speaker 2: of football. I can't say that I've seen that. And
Speaker 2: to to to be top five and receiving yards, to
Speaker 2: be top five and in receptions UH, to play UH
Speaker 2: at the level that he played at on the defensive
Speaker 2: side of the football, that's just me. Look, stead, I
Speaker 2: respect these guys. Matt if if a if the Seisman
Speaker 2: Trophy winner and he gets the vote. Brock Heward analyzed
Speaker 2: the game. I love the way he calls the game.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Stewart played, played in the league and played at
Speaker 2: a very high level. So I respect all these guys opinions,
Speaker 2: but for me, the best collegiate player in.
Speaker 1: Football is Travis anyone that that would never disagree again.
Speaker 1: Some people are gonna hold hold Travis at the stake
Speaker 1: because of their personal vendettas against Prime because it's Colorado.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, they won't give him his credit, his
Speaker 1: due credit. You know, those people that can't get or
Speaker 1: side with their personal reason for hating Prime and allow
Speaker 1: that to effect what Travis Hunter has done and their
Speaker 1: decision making when it comes to you know, the Heisman
Speaker 1: voting or just like it's it's ridiculous, man, It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And those that have played the game of football, that
Speaker 1: have actually played the game of fall and are watching
Speaker 1: him do what he's doing and still have thoughts that
Speaker 1: someone else should with the heisman is beyond me because
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, and I was a great athlete
Speaker 1: and I ain't never seen it like that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what the hell is y'all looking at? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I don't I don't care you, ma butt. And
Speaker 2: my thing is more, I don't he well, he be.
Speaker 2: I don't care if he can do it at the
Speaker 2: next level. We're talking about at this level, the Heisman
Speaker 2: Trophy ain't got nothing to do with the NFL level
Speaker 2: we're talking about this year. And you're not, well, he's
Speaker 2: not even a top ten player, I believe. Look yeah
Speaker 2: that now. See now, y'all just saying stuff just to
Speaker 2: say stuff, because he is a top ten player and
Speaker 2: his draft is gonna his his draft status is gonna
Speaker 2: reflect that. Look, maybe he maybe he won't be as
Speaker 2: good as receiver in the NFL, maybe he won't be
Speaker 2: as good as dbat.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about right now as a collegiate player. Ojo.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about, because who's to say the
Speaker 2: aston gent he's gonna go to the NFL and play
Speaker 2: and have the type of career in the NFL that
Speaker 2: he had in college. A lot of times got Troy Davis.
Speaker 2: I don't even think played us now. Matt Fourtey had
Speaker 2: a couple of good years in the NFL. I think
Speaker 2: the Smith kid uh from UFC and u c F.
Speaker 2: I don't think he might well. I think he played
Speaker 2: like a year or two in Detroit, but he never
Speaker 2: had the obviously we look Barry and ladanion of Marcus Allen.
Speaker 2: You know a Ron Dame Day didn't have the type
Speaker 2: of career. He wasn't the all time leading rush in college.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different than Williams's one thing to be able
Speaker 1: to college when you get to that grown men and
Speaker 1: brown they got miles of feed them grown in. The
Speaker 1: grown men they have a wife to take care, they
Speaker 1: got they got they got kids. Mortgages do yeah, Cardinal
Speaker 1: rent insurance side chick, did you finish?
Speaker 2: Come up?
Speaker 1: You finish in two thousand? Every season?
Speaker 2: Bash every Because here's the thing in college and what
Speaker 2: I try to tell people, look on a college team.
Speaker 2: Let's take the best college team ever assembled. Let's just
Speaker 2: say out of one hundred and fifteen players, they got
Speaker 2: thirty NFL players. The NFL got a fifty three man roster.
Speaker 2: All of them more in the NFL. Hey, all of
Speaker 2: them there, even the fifteen or sixteen practice squad guys
Speaker 2: are in the NFL. So that's the difference. What you're
Speaker 2: going against every seat. And what I tell people this,
Speaker 2: oh cho I used to tell people all the time.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you talk to take the best
Speaker 2: player the best offensive lineman, the best defensive line. You
Speaker 2: take the best dB, you take the best wide receiver.
Speaker 2: If that guy in the NFL, he can make him foolish.
Speaker 2: An average dB can take a great wide receiver at
Speaker 2: time like what happened to him? He must be hurt
Speaker 2: and the same and the same thing off I've seen
Speaker 2: off a great office alignment and guys just guys like that.
Speaker 1: How you put that man for two sacks?
Speaker 2: That man is the first team All Pro tackle and
Speaker 2: you got two sacks and three fashions only.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different when you're going up against a grown man,
Speaker 2: and yeah, his only job is to what be a
Speaker 2: football player? These guys got to go to class, they
Speaker 2: gotta go to study hall, they got to do all
Speaker 2: this other stuff professional.
Speaker 1: Football. Like where I said basically that it's grown man
Speaker 1: at the next level and it's not gonna be easy.
Speaker 1: And then they will probably say, well, hell, the same
Speaker 1: will go for Travis Hunter and him being successful at
Speaker 1: the next level. Listen, if you if you if you
Speaker 1: know football, if you understand skill sets, if you understand DNA,
Speaker 1: and if you understand a person being special at what
Speaker 1: they do, you know when they're going to d transition. Well,
Speaker 1: he's one of them players, He's one of those people.
Speaker 1: He's one of those people. It's going to transition. I mean,
Speaker 1: just just so people don't say, you just say it's
Speaker 1: difficult when when playing go from college and the chance
Speaker 1: of making it at the next level or being as
Speaker 1: successful as you were in college at the next level,
Speaker 1: it's difficult, yes, but you can tell you just know,
Speaker 1: O Joe.
Speaker 2: But but oh Joe, we're not saying you go dominant
Speaker 2: in college. Yeah, but I'm saying, let's just say he
Speaker 2: has to speak. Let's just say they have packages. And
Speaker 2: because you know what happened, ought Joe. When you have
Speaker 2: a dominant college career, people automatic tations. If you will
Speaker 2: come do that and fail, that's and but you sent
Speaker 2: those expectations by doing what you've done at the collegiate letter.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter where you play football or basketball
Speaker 2: or baseball or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: When you have when you set up lofty expectations, when you.
Speaker 2: See guys like a Fred Curley in track, or you
Speaker 2: see guys like a Michael Norman in track and they
Speaker 2: have outstanding careers.
Speaker 1: Xabier x man.
Speaker 2: He won one hundred and the four hundred meters, but injuries,
Speaker 2: so they expect you to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, but there are some guys.
Speaker 2: You look at Michael Johnson, Michael didn't have that great
Speaker 2: a college career and he's one of the two or
Speaker 2: three great.
Speaker 1: Greatest track sprinners in the history of the sport.
Speaker 2: When you talk when you talk about speed, so you
Speaker 2: talk about you know from four hundred downs, who I mean,
Speaker 2: what you got? You say, maybe Carl, that's it. But
Speaker 2: he didn't have he didn't have a stellar career like
Speaker 2: you know, some of some of these others like Carl,
Speaker 2: Carl could have made the eight Olympics that they're not boycotted.
Speaker 2: But you don't. You don't know, o Jo. But I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I'm throwing I'm throwing apart what we saw about.
Speaker 1: Think about the great receivers. When you saw Mega Tron
Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech, you knew what I was. When you
Speaker 1: saw Larry Fitzgerald at Pittsburgh, yes, you knew what time
Speaker 1: it was. You know when you saw Junio Jones and Alabama,
Speaker 1: you knew what time it was. When you saw Tranviers
Speaker 1: Hunter at Colorado, you know what time it is.
Speaker 2: Well, I knew Megatrope would even be better pro I said,
Speaker 2: because if he ever, if he ever had a quarterback,
Speaker 2: he could be something special. Yeah, because he was at
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. They ran the football, so he catching forty
Speaker 2: five he catching forty five passes. But when you look
Speaker 2: at the size, he's six foot four, two hundred and forty,
Speaker 2: he's running four three. You're like, who gonna deal with that?
Speaker 2: First of all, who's gonna press it? What d be
Speaker 2: trying to press Megatron? Okay, now you get him in
Speaker 2: the red zone, you gotta give him gunner. You gotta
Speaker 2: give him gunner gunner support, basically lining two guys up
Speaker 2: on the top, over top of it, or he gonna
Speaker 2: jump up and catch the ball.
Speaker 1: He got a forty plus in Burda. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's six foot four, he's two forty. So we
Speaker 2: saw when he got a quarterback. Well, you just saw
Speaker 2: the numbers that he put out. He just had arguably
Speaker 2: one of the greatest single seasons in the history. He
Speaker 2: still has the record almost two thousand yards and sixteen games.
Speaker 2: So you're you're absolutely right. Sometimes you can just look
Speaker 2: at a guy and see it translate. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be nice. Yeah, well, I guess what Ojoe.
Speaker 2: Next Saturday, we're gonna find out all this speculation. I
Speaker 2: think he should war because they're gonna be some disappointed
Speaker 2: folks on both sides. People gonna say Gent this should
Speaker 2: one if he doesn't win. People gonna say Travis should
Speaker 2: have won if he doesn't win. But hey, whatever, the
Speaker 2: case is not a situation where it's.
Speaker 1: Like Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was the overwhelming favorite. You know, Reggie,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be sad if gent wins, if Travis wins.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, both of them won regardless.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the goddamn heightsman, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying in general, both of them won regardless. No matter
Speaker 1: who's going home with that goddamn trophy. They both had
Speaker 1: great seasons their boy, they're both getting ready to do
Speaker 1: great things at the next level. Yeah, man, look here, o, Joe,
Speaker 1: I want that trophy. Hey, I'm just happy to I'm
Speaker 1: just happy to be a part of it. I love
Speaker 1: that trophy because guess what, Yeah, because they remember that.
Speaker 1: You see you see all those the Heisman House, and
Speaker 1: they have all those old guys, they have Archie Griffin
Speaker 1: to have uh uh, they have Marcus sound, they have to.
Speaker 2: Have Tea bro.
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, because guess what, o Joe, Fifteen years
Speaker 2: from now, ain't nobody go to remember.
Speaker 1: No two thousand yard run season if you don't win
Speaker 1: the trophy, we remember, we remember Marcus.
Speaker 2: He was the first to do it. He won the Heisman.
Speaker 2: Barry did it, he won the Heisman. Ricky did it.
Speaker 2: He won the Heisman. Uh uh, Henry, Henry did it,
Speaker 2: he won the Heisman.
Speaker 1: Southern Yard. Don't mean to say if you ain't got
Speaker 1: that trophy, come on, listen, I'm with you. Were you right?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you. It was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a great thing, you know. But so many
Speaker 1: other people have done it already. With Travis Hunt has
Speaker 1: done we haven't seen that before, right, not that level
Speaker 1: consistently weekend and week out.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very, very interesting. I'm ready for
Speaker 2: Saday to come. I'm ready for Saturday to come so
Speaker 2: we can find out. Travis Hunter fights, backs, tells people
Speaker 2: to mind their own business. His fiancee d addressing everything.
Speaker 5: Can I say something before you even go home.
Speaker 1: Can I say something, Oh, Joe, we're in the Arab Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead. The media when the era of the internet,
Speaker 1: and what happens is if you don't put anything online
Speaker 1: when it comes to your relationship or the person you're
Speaker 1: dealing with, then you don't have to worry about anything.
Speaker 1: But the minute it touches online, then everyone is welcome
Speaker 1: and it's allowed to have an opinion on, say, a topic,
Speaker 1: whatever that may be. And that includes Travis Hunter, his fiance,
Speaker 1: everything he has going on, some of the things that
Speaker 1: we see online. You know. I mean, I don't really
Speaker 1: care to chime anybody, but everyone else does because now
Speaker 1: you've put us in your business. Small example myself. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm one who doesn't care and always been in that media,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm one that that that overshares when
Speaker 1: things are going good. So I'm also one when things
Speaker 1: are going bad. I'm going to continue to overshare because
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think like, uh oh, I'm
Speaker 1: only gonna show you the good when things are going beautiful,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden things are bad, I go
Speaker 1: into hide. No, if I live publicly when things are good,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live publicly when things are bad.
Speaker 5: So that's something I'm used to.
Speaker 1: But as far as Travis concerned, and it fiance, you're
Speaker 1: young and the best way to go about things. If
Speaker 1: you don't like the people in your in your in
Speaker 1: your in your personal business, then you just got to
Speaker 1: you got to be offline.
Speaker 5: You got to keep your relationship offline, you know, if
Speaker 5: that makes sense?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah. I don't like Oh Joe, you know,
Speaker 2: I've been supported. Oh okay, okay, but she should never
Speaker 2: trend in front of Travis. He said, why you trended?
Speaker 2: We know you because of Travis. Okay, Okay, You're never
Speaker 2: gonna be we know her because of Travis.
Speaker 1: She's not.
Speaker 2: She's not. We knew Josel before Tom because she was Jasel. Okay,
Speaker 2: she's not a stand alone she's a stand besides. Beyonce
Speaker 2: is a stand alone Beyonce before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've used that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, sure, right right, I don't get bro.
Speaker 2: You have to understand and she's like these women, these
Speaker 2: there are didas.
Speaker 1: Do you understand how this worked?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I said, I don't know the one
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm on her side, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: win at the end of the day, and if and
Speaker 2: if if, if Travis happy some things. Guys, how many
Speaker 2: of y'all listen to what the internet said telling you?
Speaker 2: But y'all expect this man to listen. Do y'all expect
Speaker 2: this man to take y'all advice? Oh, here's a relationship.
Speaker 2: When who advice do you take? Who advice?
Speaker 1: Have you ever taken?
Speaker 2: That being said, young lady, like Adidas, when these people
Speaker 2: come around, there's gonna be times you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: sign foot He's gonna have to sign footballs, he's gonna
Speaker 2: have to sign helmets, he's gonna have to sign jerseys.
Speaker 2: He's gonna have to do me. He's gonna have to
Speaker 2: take pictures. You know how I know because when I
Speaker 2: go to sponsors, I have to sign footballs, I have
Speaker 2: to sign helmets, I have to sign photos, I have
Speaker 2: to sign jerseys. That's a part of it. He understands
Speaker 2: that you're about to come into a situation you're gonna
Speaker 2: have more money at your disposable than you even dreamed of.
Speaker 2: And why is that that's a part of it. And
Speaker 2: for you to say when you've taken when he's taking
Speaker 2: those talks about how long do I have to stay
Speaker 2: here all day? You should grace sleep and willingly stay
Speaker 2: there a month if that's what it requires. And for
Speaker 2: you to talk about, well, the reason why I left
Speaker 2: him on and for my inbox, well you know he's
Speaker 2: younger than me and he cheated.
Speaker 1: You see, now you threw that man on the bus.
Speaker 1: We didn't need to know that. We did not need
Speaker 1: to know that.
Speaker 2: Why you put that man business in the street? Are
Speaker 2: you perfect? That's look I don't I don't like the
Speaker 2: part of oversharing in a relationship because it was unnecessary.
Speaker 2: Why you and Travis gott together? Did you have to
Speaker 2: say he wasn't my type? That was for nobody to know.
Speaker 1: You don't have to share everything people you don't.
Speaker 2: And now you and it makes me. It's none of
Speaker 2: my business, but it makes you. It makes you, It
Speaker 2: pains you in a mad life. Oh he wasn't your type,
Speaker 2: but now he is my type. Well, it seems like
Speaker 2: your type might be George Washington, Ben Franklin. You listen,
Speaker 2: says Grant. It might be some of those type. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, O Joe, Just you, young lady,
Speaker 2: You don't have to share that's you and Travis' relationship. Guys,
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all want o Cho and I
Speaker 2: to do. Oo has met Travis once? I've met him once.
Speaker 2: H He has the best mentor that he could possibly have,
Speaker 2: and that's one prime he has the best. Guys, we're
Speaker 2: just like you. We're on the internet. He's not gonna
Speaker 2: listen to us. Sometimes you have to something has to
Speaker 2: happen to you. You have to see it for yourself.
Speaker 2: Somebody can't tell you about it. Oh Joe, if somebody
Speaker 2: you didn't know offered you advice on finances, everybody on
Speaker 2: the chat, who y'all y'all listening to him? If somebody
Speaker 2: that y'all didn't know, tell y'all what y'all should do
Speaker 2: with y'all money, say hey, give me your money.
Speaker 1: Listen. No, you're not.
Speaker 2: So. He looks at you, guys, and yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he appreciates your support, but he's not gonna take your
Speaker 2: advice when it comes to his dating or who he's
Speaker 2: gonna be with. I just have a problem with her sharing.
Speaker 2: I have a problem with her understanding and o Jo,
Speaker 2: she's young, she doesn't understand what comes along with it.
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to enlighten her as somebody that's been
Speaker 2: in that space and somebody that understands it. When you're
Speaker 2: dealing with sponsors and you're dealing with advertisers, you go
Speaker 2: into a room and their footballs and their helmets and
Speaker 2: they're jerseys, and there's pictures, and you're taking pictures. You
Speaker 2: understand for the kind of money that they're going to
Speaker 2: be paying him. I don't really think that's an awful
Speaker 2: lot to ask. I don't now could I could be wrong, Ojo,
Speaker 2: And some people might think, well, you know, hey, but
Speaker 2: I just don't think. I just don't think, ma'am, you
Speaker 2: need to have this because you were trendy traveling the Heisman.
Speaker 2: You didn't win No, you didn't win no war. We
Speaker 2: shouldn't have having this conversation about you. Y'all chose to
Speaker 2: be together. Your young Travis is young. Everybody knows that
Speaker 2: first level and.
Speaker 1: The best thing about it when its possible, because you
Speaker 1: think that's the one you know and and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: it is. And I love love what they're doing. I
Speaker 1: love that for Travis. I love that for her as well.
Speaker 1: I love I love love and general, I love it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I just say the issue is if you can understanding,
Speaker 5: if you if you have a relationship online, it allows
Speaker 5: everybody in your personal business and everybody to have an opinion.
Speaker 5: If you can't take that, and you have to, you know,
Speaker 5: come out and say well this is that, then you
Speaker 5: have to you have to take it offline.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: If you look here, I'm saying when you date publicly,
Speaker 2: that breakup is going to be publicly. And just like
Speaker 2: you all that google as, I love this bad. I
Speaker 2: love it when you do all that publicly. Guess what
Speaker 2: happens when it goes sideways? You see it when they
Speaker 2: date publicly. Now they're saying this and I didn't do that,
Speaker 2: and you didn't pick the kids up, and you were
Speaker 2: sleeping at this person that you are to see that.
Speaker 5: You know, hey, I'm you. You finna get exactly what
Speaker 5: it is when things are bad. Oh you finna get
Speaker 5: that too. You're finna get the good and the bad.
Speaker 5: I mean that's that's his day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I you ain't getting nothing. Speculation.
Speaker 2: Man, he liked that, Oh he liked that. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: oh he don't date nothing but this. Oh he don't
Speaker 2: date nothing but that. Oh he do this ain't nothing
Speaker 2: and nobody and nobody t see me no well with nobody.
Speaker 2: So I don't know how y'all know.
Speaker 4: What I like.
Speaker 5: You said two ten and you're all in.
Speaker 1: I know what you know what I like? No, I
Speaker 1: like who hard to talk beat at the bottle? That's
Speaker 1: what I like.
Speaker 2: You don't, Joe, That's what I'm looking for. But uh, look, no, bro,
Speaker 2: ain't no back failing. I'm just saying I don't agree
Speaker 2: with what she's said. I agree with them to have
Speaker 2: a right to be together. That's their decision.
Speaker 1: She ain't got no gun to his head. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad everybody ain't nobody else only you and I.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, better been in a situation where someone didn't
Speaker 2: approve of our relationship and we and we we just
Speaker 2: walked away. He's not wired like that, because if he
Speaker 2: if I'd listened to that people, just I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: became what I became because Leepan didn't believe I I'm
Speaker 2: gonna play in the NFL. They didn't believe I could
Speaker 2: go to college and get a degree. Oh Joe, you'd
Speaker 2: have never left Liberty City. If you listen to other
Speaker 2: people when you're a professional athlete. You're wired differently because
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of times that people don't.
Speaker 1: Believe in you.
Speaker 2: They say they believe in you, but you know that
Speaker 2: they don't because everybody don't see your vision. It wasn't
Speaker 2: revealed to them. And that's okay. The problem that I
Speaker 2: have is that she's revealing too much information. Travis is
Speaker 2: revealing too much information. You don't You didn't need to
Speaker 2: tell she got drunk in crowd romantic.
Speaker 1: We didn't need to know that. That's between you.
Speaker 2: And think about his own Listen to listen to the words,
Speaker 2: man that ain't no romantic O.
Speaker 1: Joe got drunk and.
Speaker 5: Cried ourselves to seek. Now think about Lenny Williams. What
Speaker 5: did Lenny Williams do?
Speaker 1: He cried? He so recurrent theme. You see how you
Speaker 1: cope with right?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? Right? Oh Joe? You see how she has to coke?
Speaker 1: Do you see how she has to cope with things? Alcohol? Drugs?
Speaker 2: You see?
Speaker 1: Is that a good thing? No, it's not right, it's
Speaker 1: not right. Drugs and alcohol is not toughing mechanism. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I know you don't want to go.
Speaker 5: For those that cope in that manner. Now, my coping.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you.
Speaker 5: I can tell you about my days when I cried,
Speaker 5: my my my coping and how I cope. I cope
Speaker 5: with cigars. I you know, when things aren't going well
Speaker 5: for me, you know, when I was in the fetal position.
Speaker 5: During my time, you know, I go to Starbucks, I
Speaker 5: go to the Cuban spot, you know. During my time.
Speaker 1: My coping mechanism I game, I played, I played feet
Speaker 1: for I play Madden, I play Called Duty. But my
Speaker 1: type of coping is a little bit different as opposed
Speaker 1: to those who consume alcohol, you know, and and and
Speaker 1: you know and peels and whatever it may be.
Speaker 5: You know, my coping is just different. I just it's
Speaker 5: just think, just think.
Speaker 1: About the pain, that about that that that that fetal
Speaker 1: position pain like everything, every man has been through it
Speaker 1: and and and some and sometimes yeah, it's been for
Speaker 1: the worst for those who have been through that fetal
Speaker 1: position because they never see women the same, They never
Speaker 1: see women the same after that kind of hurting, that
Speaker 1: kind of pain.
Speaker 5: And I wish it, don't know, man, No, I wish
Speaker 5: it on no man.
Speaker 1: Everybody out here, you know, they walking around thinking they
Speaker 1: tough and I'm so and so and ya, okay, but
Speaker 1: you will find the one that day will have your
Speaker 1: net fetal position. Boy, and when you do, well, may
Speaker 1: God be with you. They know, yes, sir, yes, but
Speaker 1: oh Joe, everybody. People make it seem like, oh she did.
Speaker 2: So what about the people that you thought was gonna
Speaker 2: be together for ten fifteen years and they don't make it?
Speaker 1: Then what do you say?
Speaker 2: Y'all make it seem like it's a guarantee that if
Speaker 2: everything is perfect today, it'll be that way tomorrow, it'll
Speaker 2: be that way five years from tomorrow or ten years
Speaker 2: from tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Then what yeah, look, how you do? With how you do?
Speaker 2: I'm a very private per I don't reveal as much
Speaker 2: as as I don't reveal a whole lot. If you notice,
Speaker 2: I used to. I used to reveal my dogs and
Speaker 2: show different things. I said, let me shut this down,
Speaker 2: let me shut this down, and it's okay. I never
Speaker 2: I never revealed a partner. They speculate, but then, I
Speaker 2: mean only one time. I think that was in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: We went to the first Honors was in Indy and well,
Speaker 2: I got a pictures now. But but I'm okay with
Speaker 2: I'm okay with y'all. Not being in my business. I
Speaker 2: don't want nobody. I don't want nobody talking about kids.
Speaker 2: I just ricently started posting my kids. I'm like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 2: you okay with it? For the longest I never posted
Speaker 2: them that we're grown, we're good. My son, I've never
Speaker 2: I've never posted my grandson. That's not my job. That's
Speaker 2: the that's a sperience job. If they want to post them,
Speaker 2: they can post it. I don't do that.
Speaker 1: My other daughter say hey, yeah, you can post and
Speaker 1: you good. I just I just I just like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like people in my business.
Speaker 2: I don't like people speculate because they see one thing
Speaker 2: and even if they see one thing, they believe something else.
Speaker 1: So I just like to keep people out of my business.
Speaker 2: And Travis, if I can give you any advice, not
Speaker 2: that you have to take it, because, like I said,
Speaker 2: I believe you have one of the great mentors of
Speaker 2: mentorship or is that broke? Keep it offline, keep your
Speaker 2: keep your dating, keep your dating life offline. Now if
Speaker 2: you want to poll you working out or stuff like that,
Speaker 2: have ad it, but man them relationships because there everybody's
Speaker 2: doctor Ruth, everybody's doctor Phil everybody's doctor a Larns Lessenger,
Speaker 2: and it's just not gonna end well. And then what
Speaker 2: makes it worse Ojoe is that he's listening to the comments.
Speaker 2: He's reading the comments. She's reading the comments. Now, she's
Speaker 2: listening to what.
Speaker 5: I don't give a I've had that. I don't give
Speaker 5: a very very long time.
Speaker 1: I don't vote what y'all say you got to. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do what i want to do anyway. When things
Speaker 1: go good, I'm happy. When things go bad, I'm happy.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be in the public. You know what you say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna still do what the hell I want to do.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Nothing gonna change. I've always been in sway whatever, on
Speaker 5: to the next and just keep.
Speaker 1: On right.
Speaker 2: Use because most of the time about you, you know,
Speaker 2: they're waiting to say, I told you, I knew it
Speaker 2: wasn't gona man, what I tell you did that? Oh yeah, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: remember I told you, Hey Joe, remember I told you,
Speaker 2: I told you I knew it, I knew it was fake.
Speaker 1: They do it too much. Every time they turn around.
Speaker 2: The big a Siba, everybody just wait to say, I
Speaker 2: told you, Uh, the las Vegas Raiders now currently hold
Speaker 2: the number one pick. The Giants hold the number two pick,
Speaker 2: New England number three, Carolina number four, Jacksonville number five, uh,
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans number six, the Jets numbers seven, the
Speaker 2: Browns number eight, Chicago nine, the Bengals ten, New Orleans eleven,
Speaker 2: and the Dallas Cowboys well.
Speaker 1: Top ten pick. How that make you feel? O Joe?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: No, y'all might be able to draft Travis un up,
Speaker 1: y'all might trade up and get Travis. Hey that whoa
Speaker 1: can you imagine?
Speaker 2: No, Mike Brown ain't trading up nothing. He better have
Speaker 2: he Hey, he's gonna have to break that piggy bank
Speaker 2: over to pay Chase. See you see what you have
Speaker 2: when you kick the can down the road. That's that
Speaker 2: balloon payment. I know you don't remember that. Hey, that's
Speaker 2: what the housing market crash. You used to have what
Speaker 2: they call, you know, balloom papers, interest only loans. All
Speaker 2: you have to do is play the interest on the loan.
Speaker 2: You got a ten thousand, fifteen thousand square foot house
Speaker 2: that you're paying two thousand dollars a month. Now that
Speaker 2: bloom payment, you have to pay that thing off. You
Speaker 2: see what happened when he kicked that can down the
Speaker 2: road with Chase.
Speaker 1: That changed.
Speaker 2: Oh and Chase said, you've got no ski Manu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, no, no, man oh, I want you
Speaker 1: to see me then what they call strong. Now I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here thinking, no, no, let's think about this now.
Speaker 1: If we right now, based on our record, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how the rest of the season is going to go.
Speaker 1: But what if the Bengals do trade that can go
Speaker 1: get Travis Hunney.
Speaker 2: First of all, ain't nobody gonna trade Ain't nobody gonna
Speaker 2: trade you for it?
Speaker 1: And first of all, that's not how y'all do business.
Speaker 1: You know that, I know that. Wait a minute. With
Speaker 1: with what we've done is we've turned the culture around
Speaker 1: and we have a winning culture. Culture all the way.
Speaker 1: Let me finish, the Detroit Lions ain't used to have
Speaker 1: a winning culture. What do they have now? When have y'all? Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me the time that the Bengals have traded up?
Speaker 1: They have And but we're trying to change the culture
Speaker 1: to a winner. I'm trying to figure out when y'all
Speaker 1: won did I didn't say that, I said we want
Speaker 1: to have So we have to make the necessary change
Speaker 1: to do so. And if trading up doing something we have,
Speaker 1: something we've never done before is going to help us
Speaker 1: get to that point, maybe we can trade up and
Speaker 1: get Travis Hunter to help bolster that defaise. I want
Speaker 1: to have dreads. How long you think I need to
Speaker 1: want to have them? Things? Well, you actually, if you
Speaker 1: want dreds, you could just order the goddamn little.
Speaker 2: No I want.
Speaker 1: I want to grow up. I want to grow about
Speaker 1: my own school. That's gonna that's gonna take about a
Speaker 1: year and a half before they lock up. I should
Speaker 1: lock you up for saying that. I should call the
Speaker 1: cops right now.
Speaker 2: He ain't no laws growing on my heir in a
Speaker 2: year and a half, ain't no at at this stage
Speaker 2: of my life, it's over.
Speaker 1: Just what I got, what I got? Yeah, huh, are
Speaker 1: you here? Your hair can't grow? I been just gonna
Speaker 1: grow like this. I bet they ain't gonna grow no dreads.
Speaker 1: I can't grow no locks. You can grow some locks.
Speaker 1: We just talking about. If your hair can grow in general,
Speaker 1: you can let it grow enough to where you can
Speaker 1: twist it out there and they'll lock up on your hair.
Speaker 2: Start to itch, Like if I grow a couple of
Speaker 2: days when I shave and my face started this, don't.
Speaker 1: Your hair all you got to do? Wash you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta wash you. You sell some blue or head
Speaker 1: and shoulders. No, that's what I use on my hair.
Speaker 2: The volume,