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<v Speaker 2>Spoder Club said this for Travis Hunter, it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>dry eye in the house. It wasn't a dry eye

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<v Speaker 2>in America. I don't cry much, but man I cried

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<v Speaker 2>for this young man.

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<v Speaker 1>It would.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look the love that he showed Coach Prime,

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<v Speaker 2>because he said Coach Prime was the one that believed

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<v Speaker 2>in him and said that, you know, I can play

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<v Speaker 2>both sides of the ball, and Prime treated him like

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<v Speaker 2>his own son.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always looked.

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<v Speaker 2>Out after me like you know, he trusted He's trusted

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Prime because a talent like this, the likelihood of

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<v Speaker 2>you getting the number one overall college high school player

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come to an HBCU is not very good. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he followed. He trusted him so much. When he left,

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<v Speaker 2>he could have went to a lot of There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of D one schools that had the bag

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<v Speaker 2>for him. He says, No, I believe in Coach Prime.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Prime. I followed Coach Prime to j State. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna follow him to see you. And it's more than

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<v Speaker 2>nobody in the history of college won more awards in

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<v Speaker 2>a season than what this young man did this year.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to belt the car, he wanted the Girsky,

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted No, he wonted the Butnerik, he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>Ronnie Lott. He won the Heisman. He was he won

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<v Speaker 2>it all. And you can tell, you can tell he's

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<v Speaker 2>such a humble kid. He wants to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he's green, Yes he's young. We were all young,

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<v Speaker 2>we were all green, We all made mistakes. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard not to root for the kid, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, look, I know people like GENTI should

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<v Speaker 2>have won, and he would have said that genty you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I look, and look, we've seen guys have rushing seasons

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<v Speaker 2>like this. We've never seen and we might not ever

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<v Speaker 2>see a guy do what he's been able to do

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the ball at the level in

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<v Speaker 2>which he's done it. I'm not to take snaps out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. People like snaps is not a stat. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you believe have you ever seen anybody in your lifetime?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about somebody fifty or younger, So I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>between the ages of fifty and thirty five, have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen somebody at the collegiate level play at the

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<v Speaker 2>level in which he played this year? I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>you can say you can't, and that's why he won

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<v Speaker 2>the award. So I'm happy for him. I'm happy for

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<v Speaker 2>him family. It was, it was, It was great. His

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<v Speaker 2>speech was great. Well deserved, well deserved. Oh Joe Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter is the Associate AP College Football Players of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>He received twenty six of forty three votes on a

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<v Speaker 2>panel at top twenty five voters. Hunter kept piling up

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<v Speaker 2>the hardware. He also won the Walter Camp Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year Award, along with the Chuck mcnerrick Ward as

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<v Speaker 2>top Receiver and the Bullet the Golf Award no the

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck mcnerritt as the top defensive player. And the Bullet

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<v Speaker 2>and the Kop Award as the top receiver, and he

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<v Speaker 2>should have won the Thorpe Award matter of fact, but

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want because if he'dn't won that, nobody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe another player would have ever won these

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<v Speaker 2>World War votes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's not the only one. He got one more

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<v Speaker 1>coming to now, Oh yeah, he got he got one more.

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<v Speaker 1>He got one more coming. That's some that's some good hardware.

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<v Speaker 1>Two before the draft. That's a rib that hard well.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ojo, does the Thorpe understand how that looks? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just say the second argument, Ojo, he doesn't win

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<v Speaker 2>the award, But do you know how that looks when

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have him as a finalist and he just

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<v Speaker 2>won the Chuck mc nerrick as the I as the player,

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<v Speaker 2>if dB not on the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know what they're doing. They don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. Okay, we can't give him everything. We can't do.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you care because they didn't? You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how they are? You know, do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>the people are the people that are in positions of power.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we were gonna find a way We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find a way around it. We're gonna find some type

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<v Speaker 1>of excuse. And I would love I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the reasoning behind whoever makes the decision on whether

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<v Speaker 1>he wins it or not. Why wouldn't you give it

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<v Speaker 1>to him? What's the great? Did you watch him play?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you actually understand the game of football and what

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to do this season as a defensive back? No,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, now, it's always personal, to always personal. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a phenomenal season. He had a phenomenal season.

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<v Speaker 2>The number ten boys in State grams the College Football

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<v Speaker 2>playoff spot, beating the number nineteen u NLB running rems

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<v Speaker 2>in the Mountain West Championship. Aston genty thirty two carries,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and nine yards and a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>Many believed that he closed the gap.

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<v Speaker 2>Some think might he might have overtaken Travis Hunter, who

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<v Speaker 2>was off. I don't because his odds did fall o Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>because the young man was he not like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty yards away record.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask give me his total numbers now, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>he has three hundred and forty four. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>had two twelve three, He had three twelve thirty two,

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<v Speaker 2>three forty four, so he had three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>four carries. But I still think he's one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>something one hundred and fifty yards. Let's just say give

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<v Speaker 2>or take ten yards from Barry's single season rushing record,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, Bowl game. So he's going. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>another game to play. And the thing that gets him

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<v Speaker 2>oho is that he's gonna pop one every If you

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<v Speaker 2>go back and look, he popped by thirty forty fifty

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eighty yarder. So now he's playing with house money

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<v Speaker 2>because if I give him, if he pops one for

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eighty yards, oh Joe, I give him the ball

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<v Speaker 2>twenty more times.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just have at least like I don't listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think people understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ojo, before you go, Ojo, he has three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty four carries.

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<v Speaker 1>He's three yards short of twenty five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so he needs I think Barry had twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, So he needs one hundred and one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty two yards to break Barry's single season rushingtone.

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<v Speaker 2>Now remember, now, Ojo, Barry did play in the Holiday Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>He rushed for two twenty five and five touchdowns, but

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<v Speaker 2>those stats didn't count, and a lot of NFL players

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<v Speaker 2>are voicing their support for Aston Genty. Jonathan Stewart Aston

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<v Speaker 2>Jenny is the Heisman winner. If you swapped Colorado, they

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<v Speaker 2>are in the top ten team. Matt Lionard rock Heward

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<v Speaker 2>said Aston Genty should wear the Heisman trophy.

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<v Speaker 1>That disagreement. I just want to name all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have done what is done. No disrespect, no disrespect

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<v Speaker 1>to him, you know, kudos, salute, you know for his

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<v Speaker 1>achievement this season. Barry Sander has been a two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>yard Russian college Am I correct? Melvin Gordon has been

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand yard Russian in college as well. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I correct? Marcus Allen, Am I correct? Yes? Okay, Derrick

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<v Speaker 1>Hendry Russian college ladle and Thomlinson? Am I correct? Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>Peak Wait wait a minute, Yes, No, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to say sixtieth freshman year. He did it twice,

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<v Speaker 1>Toroy David, you went to twic down here, down here,

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<v Speaker 1>down south to Miami. Let me keep going. Matt Fote

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<v Speaker 1>had a thousand, right, two thousand correct? Ricky William two

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<v Speaker 1>thousands had a two thousand yard season. Correct. R Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson Kansas City and Plavas and Dady Larry Johnson had

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand and Smith from Central Florida had a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand yard season. Right, Ron Daane, I'm still going

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on the people that achieved exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what Ashton Genty has done with Travis Hunter has done

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<v Speaker 1>this season on both sides of the ball hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>done before a It hasn't been at the level at

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<v Speaker 1>the level he's done it. Yes, we've had the way

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<v Speaker 1>players we had the charge will Sins, you know, were the.

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<v Speaker 4>Champ Bailees is it Chris Ohio stated they've done it,

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<v Speaker 4>but they didn't do it to the extent in which

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<v Speaker 4>he did it. Every goddamn snap of the season, both

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<v Speaker 4>sides of the ball of fishing on both sides of

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<v Speaker 4>the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, I respect what Ashley, what brother Genti

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<v Speaker 1>has done, but everybody's done it. Nobody's done what Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter has done this year on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and the offensive side of the ball. Every snap.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, what are we talking about? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>no disrespect the brother, my brother from Boise State. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a hell of a season. But what Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter did this year, man is different.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, some some mold.

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<v Speaker 1>That's some old alien type.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, know that I'm gonna let you finished.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say the wrong Yeah for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I I I for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Travis Hunter is the best collegiate player in

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<v Speaker 2>college football. And I'm not talking about snaps because snaps

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<v Speaker 2>is not a stat But I'm saying, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at what he did on the officer side of the football,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at what he's done on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the football, It's hard for me to say that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a I've seen a better college player.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we've seen I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen a better college athlete that play the game

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<v Speaker 2>of football. I can't say that I've seen that. And

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<v Speaker 2>to to to be top five and receiving yards, to

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<v Speaker 2>be top five and in receptions UH, to play UH

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<v Speaker 2>at the level that he played at on the defensive

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<v Speaker 2>side of the football, that's just me. Look, stead, I

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<v Speaker 2>respect these guys. Matt if if a if the Seisman

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<v Speaker 2>Trophy winner and he gets the vote. Brock Heward analyzed

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<v Speaker 2>the game. I love the way he calls the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Stewart played, played in the league and played at

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<v Speaker 2>a very high level. So I respect all these guys opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>but for me, the best collegiate player in.

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<v Speaker 1>Football is Travis anyone that that would never disagree again.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are gonna hold hold Travis at the stake

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<v Speaker 1>because of their personal vendettas against Prime because it's Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, they won't give him his credit, his

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<v Speaker 1>due credit. You know, those people that can't get or

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<v Speaker 1>side with their personal reason for hating Prime and allow

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<v Speaker 1>that to effect what Travis Hunter has done and their

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<v Speaker 1>decision making when it comes to you know, the Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>voting or just like it's it's ridiculous, man, It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>And those that have played the game of football, that

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<v Speaker 1>have actually played the game of fall and are watching

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<v Speaker 1>him do what he's doing and still have thoughts that

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<v Speaker 1>someone else should with the heisman is beyond me because

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen it, and I was a great athlete

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<v Speaker 1>and I ain't never seen it like that. Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what what the hell is y'all looking at? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't I don't care you, ma butt. And

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<v Speaker 2>my thing is more, I don't he well, he be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if he can do it at the

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<v Speaker 2>next level. We're talking about at this level, the Heisman

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<v Speaker 2>Trophy ain't got nothing to do with the NFL level

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about this year. And you're not, well, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not even a top ten player, I believe. Look yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that now. See now, y'all just saying stuff just to

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<v Speaker 2>say stuff, because he is a top ten player and

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<v Speaker 2>his draft is gonna his his draft status is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>reflect that. Look, maybe he maybe he won't be as

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<v Speaker 2>good as receiver in the NFL, maybe he won't be

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<v Speaker 2>as good as dbat.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking about right now as a collegiate player. Ojo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're talking about, because who's to say the

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<v Speaker 2>aston gent he's gonna go to the NFL and play

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<v Speaker 2>and have the type of career in the NFL that

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<v Speaker 2>he had in college. A lot of times got Troy Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think played us now. Matt Fourtey had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of good years in the NFL. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Smith kid uh from UFC and u c F.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he might well. I think he played

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<v Speaker 2>like a year or two in Detroit, but he never

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<v Speaker 2>had the obviously we look Barry and ladanion of Marcus Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a Ron Dame Day didn't have the type

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<v Speaker 2>of career. He wasn't the all time leading rush in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's different than Williams's one thing to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to college when you get to that grown men and

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<v Speaker 1>brown they got miles of feed them grown in. The

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<v Speaker 1>grown men they have a wife to take care, they

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<v Speaker 1>got they got they got kids. Mortgages do yeah, Cardinal

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<v Speaker 1>rent insurance side chick, did you finish?

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<v Speaker 2>Come up?

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<v Speaker 1>You finish in two thousand? Every season?

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<v Speaker 2>Bash every Because here's the thing in college and what

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<v Speaker 2>I try to tell people, look on a college team.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take the best college team ever assembled. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say out of one hundred and fifteen players, they got

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<v Speaker 2>thirty NFL players. The NFL got a fifty three man roster.

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<v Speaker 2>All of them more in the NFL. Hey, all of

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<v Speaker 2>them there, even the fifteen or sixteen practice squad guys

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<v Speaker 2>are in the NFL. So that's the difference. What you're

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<v Speaker 2>going against every seat. And what I tell people this,

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<v Speaker 2>oh cho I used to tell people all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you talk to take the best

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<v Speaker 2>player the best offensive lineman, the best defensive line. You

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<v Speaker 2>take the best dB, you take the best wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>If that guy in the NFL, he can make him foolish.

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<v Speaker 2>An average dB can take a great wide receiver at

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<v Speaker 2>time like what happened to him? He must be hurt

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<v Speaker 2>and the same and the same thing off I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>off a great office alignment and guys just guys like that.

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<v Speaker 1>How you put that man for two sacks?

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<v Speaker 2>That man is the first team All Pro tackle and

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<v Speaker 2>you got two sacks and three fashions only.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's different when you're going up against a grown man,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, his only job is to what be a

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<v Speaker 2>football player? These guys got to go to class, they

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go to study hall, they got to do all

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<v Speaker 2>this other stuff professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Football. Like where I said basically that it's grown man

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<v Speaker 1>at the next level and it's not gonna be easy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they will probably say, well, hell, the same

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<v Speaker 1>will go for Travis Hunter and him being successful at

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<v Speaker 1>the next level. Listen, if you if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>know football, if you understand skill sets, if you understand DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you understand a person being special at what

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<v Speaker 1>they do, you know when they're going to d transition. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of them players, He's one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of those people. It's going to transition. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just just so people don't say, you just say it's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult when when playing go from college and the chance

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<v Speaker 1>of making it at the next level or being as

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<v Speaker 1>successful as you were in college at the next level,

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<v Speaker 1>it's difficult, yes, but you can tell you just know,

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<v Speaker 1>O Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>But but oh Joe, we're not saying you go dominant

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<v Speaker 2>in college. Yeah, but I'm saying, let's just say he

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<v Speaker 2>has to speak. Let's just say they have packages. And

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<v Speaker 2>because you know what happened, ought Joe. When you have

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<v Speaker 2>a dominant college career, people automatic tations. If you will

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<v Speaker 2>come do that and fail, that's and but you sent

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<v Speaker 2>those expectations by doing what you've done at the collegiate letter.

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't matter where you play football or basketball

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<v Speaker 2>or baseball or whatever the case may be.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have when you set up lofty expectations, when you.

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<v Speaker 2>See guys like a Fred Curley in track, or you

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<v Speaker 2>see guys like a Michael Norman in track and they

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<v Speaker 2>have outstanding careers.

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<v Speaker 1>Xabier x man.

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<v Speaker 2>He won one hundred and the four hundred meters, but injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>so they expect you to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but there are some guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Michael Johnson, Michael didn't have that great

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<v Speaker 2>a college career and he's one of the two or

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<v Speaker 2>three great.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest track sprinners in the history of the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>When you talk when you talk about speed, so you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about you know from four hundred downs, who I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what you got? You say, maybe Carl, that's it. But

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't have he didn't have a stellar career like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of some of these others like Carl,

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<v Speaker 2>Carl could have made the eight Olympics that they're not boycotted.

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't. You don't know, o Jo. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying I'm throwing I'm throwing apart what we saw about.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about the great receivers. When you saw Mega Tron

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<v Speaker 1>at Georgia Tech, you knew what I was. When you

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<v Speaker 1>saw Larry Fitzgerald at Pittsburgh, yes, you knew what time

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<v Speaker 1>it was. You know when you saw Junio Jones and Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>you knew what time it was. When you saw Tranviers

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter at Colorado, you know what time it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I knew Megatrope would even be better pro I said,

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<v Speaker 2>because if he ever, if he ever had a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>he could be something special. Yeah, because he was at

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech. They ran the football, so he catching forty

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<v Speaker 2>five he catching forty five passes. But when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the size, he's six foot four, two hundred and forty,

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<v Speaker 2>he's running four three. You're like, who gonna deal with that?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, who's gonna press it? What d be

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<v Speaker 2>trying to press Megatron? Okay, now you get him in

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone, you gotta give him gunner. You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>give him gunner gunner support, basically lining two guys up

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<v Speaker 2>on the top, over top of it, or he gonna

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<v Speaker 2>jump up and catch the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a forty plus in Burda. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's six foot four, he's two forty. So we

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<v Speaker 2>saw when he got a quarterback. Well, you just saw

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers that he put out. He just had arguably

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest single seasons in the history. He

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<v Speaker 2>still has the record almost two thousand yards and sixteen games.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're you're absolutely right. Sometimes you can just look

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<v Speaker 2>at a guy and see it translate. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be nice. Yeah, well, I guess what Ojoe.

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<v Speaker 2>Next Saturday, we're gonna find out all this speculation. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he should war because they're gonna be some disappointed

0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 2>folks on both sides. People gonna say Gent this should

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<v Speaker 2>one if he doesn't win. People gonna say Travis should

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<v Speaker 2>have won if he doesn't win. But hey, whatever, the

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<v Speaker 2>case is not a situation where it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was the overwhelming favorite. You know, Reggie,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't even be sad if gent wins, if Travis wins.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, both of them won regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about the goddamn heightsman, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying in general, both of them won regardless. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>who's going home with that goddamn trophy. They both had

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<v Speaker 1>great seasons their boy, they're both getting ready to do

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<v Speaker 1>great things at the next level. Yeah, man, look here, o, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I want that trophy. Hey, I'm just happy to I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just happy to be a part of it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that trophy because guess what, Yeah, because they remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>You see you see all those the Heisman House, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have all those old guys, they have Archie Griffin

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<v Speaker 1>to have uh uh, they have Marcus sound, they have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have Tea bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, because guess what, o Joe, Fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>from now, ain't nobody go to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>No two thousand yard run season if you don't win

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<v Speaker 1>the trophy, we remember, we remember Marcus.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the first to do it. He won the Heisman.

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<v Speaker 2>Barry did it, he won the Heisman. Ricky did it.

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<v Speaker 2>He won the Heisman. Uh uh, Henry, Henry did it,

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<v Speaker 2>he won the Heisman.

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<v Speaker 1>Southern Yard. Don't mean to say if you ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>that trophy, come on, listen, I'm with you. Were you right?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm with you. It was a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great thing, you know. But so many

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<v Speaker 1>other people have done it already. With Travis Hunt has

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<v Speaker 1>done we haven't seen that before, right, not that level

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<v Speaker 1>consistently weekend and week out.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's gonna be very, very interesting. I'm ready for

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<v Speaker 2>Saday to come. I'm ready for Saturday to come so

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<v Speaker 2>we can find out. Travis Hunter fights, backs, tells people

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<v Speaker 2>to mind their own business. His fiancee d addressing everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I say something before you even go home.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say something, Oh, Joe, we're in the Arab Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. The media when the era of the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>and what happens is if you don't put anything online

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to your relationship or the person you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with, then you don't have to worry about anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But the minute it touches online, then everyone is welcome

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's allowed to have an opinion on, say, a topic,

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever that may be. And that includes Travis Hunter, his fiance,

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>everything he has going on, some of the things that

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>we see online. You know. I mean, I don't really

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>care to chime anybody, but everyone else does because now

0:23:56.880 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you've put us in your business. Small example myself. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one who doesn't care and always been in that media,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I'm one that that that overshares when

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 1>things are going good. So I'm also one when things

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>are going bad. I'm going to continue to overshare because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to think like, uh oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only gonna show you the good when things are going beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden things are bad, I go

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<v Speaker 1>into hide. No, if I live publicly when things are good,

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna live publicly when things are bad.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's something I'm used to.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as Travis concerned, and it fiance, you're

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<v Speaker 1>young and the best way to go about things. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like the people in your in your in

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.280
<v Speaker 1>your in your personal business, then you just got to

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you got to be offline.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to keep your relationship offline, you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, yeah. I don't like Oh Joe, you know,

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I've been supported. Oh okay, okay, but she should never

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>trend in front of Travis. He said, why you trended?

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 2>We know you because of Travis. Okay, Okay, You're never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be we know her because of Travis.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not. We knew Josel before Tom because she was Jasel. Okay,

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>she's not a stand alone she's a stand besides. Beyonce

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>is a stand alone Beyonce before.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I've used that.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, sure, right right, I don't get bro.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to understand and she's like these women, these

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 2>there are didas.

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you understand how this worked?

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I said, I don't know the one

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm on her side, and I wanted to

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>win at the end of the day, and if and

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 2>if if, if Travis happy some things. Guys, how many

0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>of y'all listen to what the internet said telling you?

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>But y'all expect this man to listen. Do y'all expect

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 2>this man to take y'all advice? Oh, here's a relationship.

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 2>When who advice do you take? Who advice?

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever taken?

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>That being said, young lady, like Adidas, when these people

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 2>come around, there's gonna be times you're gonna have to

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 2>sign foot He's gonna have to sign footballs, he's gonna

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 2>have to sign helmets, he's gonna have to sign jerseys.

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna have to do me. He's gonna have to

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>take pictures. You know how I know because when I

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 2>go to sponsors, I have to sign footballs, I have

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>to sign helmets, I have to sign photos, I have

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 2>to sign jerseys. That's a part of it. He understands

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 2>that you're about to come into a situation you're gonna

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 2>have more money at your disposable than you even dreamed of.

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 2>And why is that that's a part of it. And

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 2>for you to say when you've taken when he's taking

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>those talks about how long do I have to stay

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>here all day? You should grace sleep and willingly stay

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>there a month if that's what it requires. And for

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>you to talk about, well, the reason why I left

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>him on and for my inbox, well you know he's

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>younger than me and he cheated.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>You see, now you threw that man on the bus.

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>We didn't need to know that. We did not need

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to know that.

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Why you put that man business in the street? Are

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>you perfect? That's look I don't I don't like the

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>part of oversharing in a relationship because it was unnecessary.

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Why you and Travis gott together? Did you have to

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 2>say he wasn't my type? That was for nobody to know.

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to share everything people you don't.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And now you and it makes me. It's none of

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>my business, but it makes you. It makes you, It

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>pains you in a mad life. Oh he wasn't your type,

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>but now he is my type. Well, it seems like

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>your type might be George Washington, Ben Franklin. You listen,

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 2>says Grant. It might be some of those type. You

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, O Joe, Just you, young lady,

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to share that's you and Travis' relationship. Guys,

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what y'all want o Cho and I

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>to do. Oo has met Travis once? I've met him once.

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>H He has the best mentor that he could possibly have,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's one prime he has the best. Guys, we're

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 2>just like you. We're on the internet. He's not gonna

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>listen to us. Sometimes you have to something has to

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>happen to you. You have to see it for yourself.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Somebody can't tell you about it. Oh Joe, if somebody

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you didn't know offered you advice on finances, everybody on

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the chat, who y'all y'all listening to him? If somebody

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that y'all didn't know, tell y'all what y'all should do

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>with y'all money, say hey, give me your money.

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Listen. No, you're not.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 2>So. He looks at you, guys, and yeah, I'm sure

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.479
<v Speaker 2>he appreciates your support, but he's not gonna take your

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>advice when it comes to his dating or who he's

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna be with. I just have a problem with her sharing.

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I have a problem with her understanding and o Jo,

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>she's young, she doesn't understand what comes along with it.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>But I'm trying to enlighten her as somebody that's been

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 2>in that space and somebody that understands it. When you're

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>dealing with sponsors and you're dealing with advertisers, you go

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>into a room and their footballs and their helmets and

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>they're jerseys, and there's pictures, and you're taking pictures. You

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 2>understand for the kind of money that they're going to

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>be paying him. I don't really think that's an awful

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>lot to ask. I don't now could I could be wrong, Ojo,

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 2>And some people might think, well, you know, hey, but

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think. I just don't think, ma'am, you

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>need to have this because you were trendy traveling the Heisman.

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 2>You didn't win No, you didn't win no war. We

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have having this conversation about you. Y'all chose to

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 2>be together. Your young Travis is young. Everybody knows that

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>first level and.

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>The best thing about it when its possible, because you

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's the one you know and and I'm hoping

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>it is. And I love love what they're doing. I

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 1>love that for Travis. I love that for her as well.

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I love I love love and general, I love it.

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I just say the issue is if you can understanding,

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 5>if you if you have a relationship online, it allows

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 5>everybody in your personal business and everybody to have an opinion.

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 5>If you can't take that, and you have to, you know,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 5>come out and say well this is that, then you

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 5>have to you have to take it offline.

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>If you look here, I'm saying when you date publicly,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>that breakup is going to be publicly. And just like

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you all that google as, I love this bad. I

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>love it when you do all that publicly. Guess what

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 2>happens when it goes sideways? You see it when they

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>date publicly. Now they're saying this and I didn't do that,

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 2>and you didn't pick the kids up, and you were

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>sleeping at this person that you are to see that.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, hey, I'm you. You finna get exactly what

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 5>it is when things are bad. Oh you finna get

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 5>that too. You're finna get the good and the bad.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean that's that's his day.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I I you ain't getting nothing. Speculation.

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Man, he liked that, Oh he liked that. Oh yeah,

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>oh he don't date nothing but this. Oh he don't

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 2>date nothing but that. Oh he do this ain't nothing

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and nobody and nobody t see me no well with nobody.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how y'all know.

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 4>What I like.

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 5>You said two ten and you're all in.

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I know what you know what I like? No, I

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>like who hard to talk beat at the bottle? That's

0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>what I like.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:06.479
<v Speaker 2>You don't, Joe, That's what I'm looking for. But uh, look, no, bro,

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>ain't no back failing. I'm just saying I don't agree

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>with what she's said. I agree with them to have

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>a right to be together. That's their decision.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>She ain't got no gun to his head. So I'm

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>glad everybody ain't nobody else only you and I.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh Joe, better been in a situation where someone didn't

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>approve of our relationship and we and we we just

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>walked away. He's not wired like that, because if he

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 2>if I'd listened to that people, just I wouldn't have

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>became what I became because Leepan didn't believe I I'm

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna play in the NFL. They didn't believe I could

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>go to college and get a degree. Oh Joe, you'd

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 2>have never left Liberty City. If you listen to other

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>people when you're a professional athlete. You're wired differently because

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a lot of times that people don't.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Believe in you.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 2>They say they believe in you, but you know that

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they don't because everybody don't see your vision. It wasn't

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>revealed to them. And that's okay. The problem that I

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>have is that she's revealing too much information. Travis is

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 2>revealing too much information. You don't You didn't need to

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>tell she got drunk in crowd romantic.

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>We didn't need to know that. That's between you.

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>And think about his own Listen to listen to the words,

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>man that ain't no romantic O.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Joe got drunk and.

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 5>Cried ourselves to seek. Now think about Lenny Williams. What

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 5>did Lenny Williams do?

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>He cried? He so recurrent theme. You see how you

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>cope with right?

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Right? Right? Oh Joe? You see how she has to coke?

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you see how she has to cope with things? Alcohol? Drugs?

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>You see?

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that a good thing? No, it's not right, it's

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>not right. Drugs and alcohol is not toughing mechanism. Oh no,

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I know you don't want to go.

0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 5>For those that cope in that manner. Now, my coping.

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 5>I can tell you about my days when I cried,

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 5>my my my coping and how I cope. I cope

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 5>with cigars. I you know, when things aren't going well

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 5>for me, you know, when I was in the fetal position.

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 5>During my time, you know, I go to Starbucks, I

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 5>go to the Cuban spot, you know. During my time.

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.439
<v Speaker 1>My coping mechanism I game, I played, I played feet

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>for I play Madden, I play Called Duty. But my

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>type of coping is a little bit different as opposed

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>to those who consume alcohol, you know, and and and

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 1>you know and peels and whatever it may be.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, my coping is just different. I just it's

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 5>just think, just think.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>About the pain, that about that that that that fetal

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:49.759
<v Speaker 1>position pain like everything, every man has been through it

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and and and some and sometimes yeah, it's been for

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the worst for those who have been through that fetal

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>position because they never see women the same, They never

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>see women the same after that kind of hurting, that

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of pain.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 5>And I wish it, don't know, man, No, I wish

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 5>it on no man.

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Everybody out here, you know, they walking around thinking they

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>tough and I'm so and so and ya, okay, but

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you will find the one that day will have your

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>net fetal position. Boy, and when you do, well, may

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>God be with you. They know, yes, sir, yes, but

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>oh Joe, everybody. People make it seem like, oh she did.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.479
<v Speaker 2>So what about the people that you thought was gonna

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 2>be together for ten fifteen years and they don't make it?

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Then what do you say?

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Y'all make it seem like it's a guarantee that if

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 2>everything is perfect today, it'll be that way tomorrow, it'll

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 2>be that way five years from tomorrow or ten years

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>from tomorrow.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Then what yeah, look, how you do? With how you do?

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm a very private per I don't reveal as much

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.720
<v Speaker 2>as as I don't reveal a whole lot. If you notice,

0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I used to. I used to reveal my dogs and

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>show different things. I said, let me shut this down,

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>let me shut this down, and it's okay. I never

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I never revealed a partner. They speculate, but then, I

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>mean only one time. I think that was in twenty twelve.

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>We went to the first Honors was in Indy and well,

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I got a pictures now. But but I'm okay with

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with y'all. Not being in my business. I

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.479
<v Speaker 2>don't want nobody. I don't want nobody talking about kids.

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I just ricently started posting my kids. I'm like, hey, y'all,

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>you okay with it? For the longest I never posted

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>them that we're grown, we're good. My son, I've never

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 2>I've never posted my grandson. That's not my job. That's

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>the that's a sperience job. If they want to post them,

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>they can post it. I don't do that.

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>My other daughter say hey, yeah, you can post and

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you good. I just I just I just like it.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't like people in my business.

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't like people speculate because they see one thing

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and even if they see one thing, they believe something else.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 1>So I just like to keep people out of my business.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 2>And Travis, if I can give you any advice, not

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.479
<v Speaker 2>that you have to take it, because, like I said,

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe you have one of the great mentors of

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 2>mentorship or is that broke? Keep it offline, keep your

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 2>keep your dating, keep your dating life offline. Now if

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 2>you want to poll you working out or stuff like that,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 2>have ad it, but man them relationships because there everybody's

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:42.240
<v Speaker 2>doctor Ruth, everybody's doctor Phil everybody's doctor a Larns Lessenger,

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's just not gonna end well. And then what

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>makes it worse Ojoe is that he's listening to the comments.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 2>He's reading the comments. She's reading the comments. Now, she's

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<v Speaker 2>listening to what.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't give a I've had that. I don't give

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<v Speaker 5>a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't vote what y'all say you got to. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do what i want to do anyway. When things

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<v Speaker 1>go good, I'm happy. When things go bad, I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be in the public. You know what you say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna still do what the hell I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing gonna change. I've always been in sway whatever, on

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<v Speaker 5>to the next and just keep.

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<v Speaker 1>On right.

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<v Speaker 2>Use because most of the time about you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're waiting to say, I told you, I knew it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't gona man, what I tell you did that? Oh yeah, hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>remember I told you, Hey Joe, remember I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I knew it, I knew it was fake.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it too much. Every time they turn around.

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<v Speaker 2>The big a Siba, everybody just wait to say, I

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<v Speaker 2>told you, Uh, the las Vegas Raiders now currently hold

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<v Speaker 2>the number one pick. The Giants hold the number two pick,

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<v Speaker 2>New England number three, Carolina number four, Jacksonville number five, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Tennessee Titans number six, the Jets numbers seven, the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns number eight, Chicago nine, the Bengals ten, New Orleans eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Dallas Cowboys well.

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<v Speaker 1>Top ten pick. How that make you feel? O Joe?

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<v Speaker 2>Who?

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<v Speaker 1>No, y'all might be able to draft Travis un up,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all might trade up and get Travis. Hey that whoa

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Mike Brown ain't trading up nothing. He better have

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<v Speaker 2>he Hey, he's gonna have to break that piggy bank

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<v Speaker 2>over to pay Chase. See you see what you have

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<v Speaker 2>when you kick the can down the road. That's that

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<v Speaker 2>balloon payment. I know you don't remember that. Hey, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the housing market crash. You used to have what

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<v Speaker 2>they call, you know, balloom papers, interest only loans. All

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is play the interest on the loan.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a ten thousand, fifteen thousand square foot house

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<v Speaker 2>that you're paying two thousand dollars a month. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>bloom payment, you have to pay that thing off. You

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<v Speaker 2>see what happened when he kicked that can down the

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<v Speaker 2>road with Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>That changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and Chase said, you've got no ski Manu.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well no, no, no, man oh, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to see me then what they call strong. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here thinking, no, no, let's think about this now.

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<v Speaker 1>If we right now, based on our record, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure how the rest of the season is going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if the Bengals do trade that can go

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<v Speaker 1>get Travis Hunney.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, ain't nobody gonna trade Ain't nobody gonna

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<v Speaker 2>trade you for it?

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, that's not how y'all do business.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that, I know that. Wait a minute. With

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<v Speaker 1>with what we've done is we've turned the culture around

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a winning culture. Culture all the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me finish, the Detroit Lions ain't used to have

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<v Speaker 1>a winning culture. What do they have now? When have y'all? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me the time that the Bengals have traded up?

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<v Speaker 1>They have And but we're trying to change the culture

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<v Speaker 1>to a winner. I'm trying to figure out when y'all

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<v Speaker 1>won did I didn't say that, I said we want

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<v Speaker 1>to have So we have to make the necessary change

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<v Speaker 1>to do so. And if trading up doing something we have,

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<v Speaker 1>something we've never done before is going to help us

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<v Speaker 1>get to that point, maybe we can trade up and

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<v Speaker 1>get Travis Hunter to help bolster that defaise. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to have dreads. How long you think I need to

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<v Speaker 1>want to have them? Things? Well, you actually, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want dreds, you could just order the goddamn little.

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<v Speaker 2>No I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to grow up. I want to grow about

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<v Speaker 1>my own school. That's gonna that's gonna take about a

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<v Speaker 1>year and a half before they lock up. I should

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<v Speaker 1>lock you up for saying that. I should call the

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<v Speaker 1>cops right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He ain't no laws growing on my heir in a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half, ain't no at at this stage

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<v Speaker 2>of my life, it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Just what I got, what I got? Yeah, huh, are

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<v Speaker 1>you here? Your hair can't grow? I been just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>grow like this. I bet they ain't gonna grow no dreads.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't grow no locks. You can grow some locks.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talking about. If your hair can grow in general,

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<v Speaker 1>you can let it grow enough to where you can

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<v Speaker 1>twist it out there and they'll lock up on your hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Start to itch, Like if I grow a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days when I shave and my face started this, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hair all you got to do? Wash you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta wash you. You sell some blue or head

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<v Speaker 1>and shoulders. No, that's what I use on my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>The volume,