Speaker 1: It's more, it's more exciting for Kanye to blame the
Speaker 1: Jews than it is for him to blame the stars.
Speaker 2: You know, how do you feel back this guy?
Speaker 1: I just said, it's more exciting.
Speaker 3: How happy he is if Kanye.
Speaker 1: If Kanye was like, I lost my Adidas contract because
Speaker 1: I'm a Gemini, that's boring.
Speaker 3: Go.
Speaker 1: But if he's like, there's a Jewish cabal planning against me,
Speaker 1: come on, we're having fun.
Speaker 3: Anytime I hear ohd any kind.
Speaker 4: Of as a July, I would absolutely believe Kanye if
Speaker 4: you said that.
Speaker 1: Okay, You're like, no, I get what I get. What's
Speaker 1: trying to get us?
Speaker 4: Somebody here?
Speaker 1: You're right, babies, chips in your.
Speaker 5: Quals, Racists, the money, turkey stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 1: As titties, ass and titties. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.
Speaker 3: Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets
Speaker 3: of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: And we finally worked to prove that soldier boys kiss
Speaker 1: Me through the phone wasn't homage to the NSA.
Speaker 6: That's right, move over, gonna move over, Gunna.
Speaker 1: Big Draco was the first rapper to make snitching swaggy
Speaker 1: as fuck you goddamn right here is doing it first. Baby.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a beautiful anecdotal so your girlfriend, No,
Speaker 3: it was, it was it was about secure. It's really
Speaker 3: like enemy of the state too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, I got you, I got you,
Speaker 1: big government, big Draco, Big Draco taking care of you
Speaker 1: from now on. Damn, I'll teach these niggas to talk
Speaker 1: on the phone.
Speaker 3: I'll make them big government kissing you a public.
Speaker 1: I'm Langs think Herman.
Speaker 3: And I'm David Boy, and I want to say I
Speaker 3: love that song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, Here's the thing is is Sojia Boy has often,
Speaker 1: very often gotten a lot of flak for being deserved.
Speaker 1: Oh deserved is saying she's boy person. But I'll say,
Speaker 1: I'm I think he's done a lot more than we
Speaker 1: like to give him credit for. I think he's a
Speaker 1: pretty obnoxious guy. I think we can all agree on that.
Speaker 1: But but he's pretty He's contributed a lot more than
Speaker 1: we realized.
Speaker 3: And the htes are the hits. I mean, I remember
Speaker 3: driving home from work, which would I had a girlfriend
Speaker 3: to play kiss me through the phone too? You know
Speaker 3: what that was?
Speaker 1: Real time, and I'm sorry that happened to you yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know, I I pray to God that we fixed
Speaker 1: it by tomorrow.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't have a car anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, our guest today has already come out as an
Speaker 1: anti soljiaboy officionado. I don't know what the right word
Speaker 1: is to be anti something, but she she hates Soljia boy.
Speaker 1: But but I'll tell you this. She came with the
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that we're very excited about. She's she's lovely,
Speaker 1: she's talented, she's a podcaster, specifically, you know her best
Speaker 1: from her podcast Black People Love Paramore. And we're so
Speaker 1: happy she's here with us today. Please give it up
Speaker 1: for Sequoya Home City Bar City Bar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was excited to be on.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you. You came with the
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that I would say, if I'm being careful
Speaker 1: in my verbiage, probably falls closer to like old wives tale,
Speaker 1: like you know, sort of like the pre internet conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory language that we often use. But I do think
Speaker 1: has hit a pretty major resurgence in recent years that
Speaker 1: that I'm excited about. But you said, my mama told me.
Speaker 4: If you buy your romantic partner shoes, they'll walk out
Speaker 4: of your life.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: My mama did tell us everything.
Speaker 7: Tell me that.
Speaker 4: You know, I was really proud of this one because
Speaker 4: I'm looking on the internet and I was like, no,
Speaker 4: because my mom has definitely said some wild shit to
Speaker 4: me before. What does she be saying, Yeah, I came
Speaker 4: up with this on I was like, yes, absolutely, this
Speaker 4: lady has absolutely said don't buy no nigga no shoes
Speaker 4: because them the shoes that he is going to leave
Speaker 4: the door when he leaves. I said, wow, And guess
Speaker 4: what I have never done, never bought a nigga no shoes.
Speaker 4: Sound never once going to make sure I never brought.
Speaker 1: You're already lying scratching at one time.
Speaker 4: I would hate to go look at Garrett's wardrobe of
Speaker 4: shoes and be like, damn, I did buy him right there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's a very trendy guy.
Speaker 1: So you you're saying you've never to your to your recollection,
Speaker 1: you've never once bought a man shoes, So it sounds
Speaker 1: as if you're pretty bought in on this conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm wall in on all of the old
Speaker 4: wives tale superstitions that you hear about, especially ones that
Speaker 4: involve niggas walking out the door. We're doing, We're doing
Speaker 4: absolutely worry.
Speaker 3: It's like a surface area thing, like it's not so
Speaker 3: much this specific thing as much as it's just a
Speaker 3: common babe wow.
Speaker 1: If it's the one thing we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: Is leave, Also, don't buy the niggle pizza because you
Speaker 3: might walk out the door like there's this baby girl.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go either way.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, we want to be whole and
Speaker 4: honest about it. My mom said, don't buy a nigga nothing.
Speaker 4: So I haven't got respect it respect. I haven't gone
Speaker 4: that far. I just not buying shoes. I buy you
Speaker 4: sign you'll.
Speaker 1: Buy I love something, but but shoes ain't it? Bor bory?
Speaker 1: Where do you live in all of this? If you
Speaker 1: receive shoes as a gift, did you leave immediately after?
Speaker 1: Where does this happen?
Speaker 3: My narrative like that, first.
Speaker 1: I assume you have a whole wall of sneeze.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's on the point left because I was
Speaker 3: gonna leave. It wasn't because of the shoes.
Speaker 4: What you still have on when you left is the question?
Speaker 3: Man, I was a one. I was broke. I was
Speaker 3: a one pair of shoes at a time guy until
Speaker 3: like four years ago.
Speaker 4: How do we go from you didn't have no girlfriend
Speaker 4: to now you walking out with the shoes on. I
Speaker 4: don't like it. I don't like it. That's why you
Speaker 4: can't give me any things. I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say that's not true. I feel personally
Speaker 3: at TechEd, I know, But how do I feel about
Speaker 3: this one? I think it's possible because I've also heard
Speaker 3: this in relation to men and women. MM. Like my
Speaker 3: homie Miaomie actually just brought this up the other day.
Speaker 3: He's from South Carolina, and he said his mom told
Speaker 3: him the same thing about women.
Speaker 1: Whoa that you can't buy a lady shoes because she
Speaker 1: will to walk out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done for that.
Speaker 1: I've never never bought a woman's shoes.
Speaker 3: Oh, don't talk to me like I'm a fucking psychopath. Langston.
Speaker 1: I'm second that.
Speaker 4: I second that insertion.
Speaker 3: Yeah you felt it right?
Speaker 4: My second what Langston said.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying the dumb dumb had a friend.
Speaker 3: We're all the same behaviors.
Speaker 1: I have bought shoes for women, but I've also lost women,
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know that. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it was the best behavior I could have, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like they could have been the
Speaker 1: beginning of my downfall. Who knows.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the first thing you bought her though, right,
Speaker 3: it was not.
Speaker 1: The first thing. I'm not a I'm not a simp.
Speaker 3: I I you know you're acting like I put that
Speaker 3: on you. I was just asking a question.
Speaker 1: I know there are stages to like normal gifts unless
Speaker 1: you are fucking drake, and shoes ain't the first thing
Speaker 1: you buy somebody.
Speaker 7: I think, Wow, shoes are Drake level for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That that that feels like I might as well
Speaker 1: pop a half of zand.
Speaker 4: It's like some bands or something you nothing crazy like
Speaker 4: bust of Vans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like I'm making bold choices for your
Speaker 1: future in a way that that I have to know
Speaker 1: you better than than on some like third date ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm telling you what
Speaker 1: you're going to wear. That's that's a big step.
Speaker 3: You put up shoe money for an experience, That's like no,
Speaker 3: I meant more like I spend a shoes amount of
Speaker 3: money on an experience, But like buying the specific shoes
Speaker 3: does feel very I don't know presumptuous is a way,
Speaker 3: but it does. It's like heavy, it's it's weighted for sure.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask how far this reaches for you, Sequoia,
Speaker 1: are you like no, I will not help you acquire
Speaker 1: shoes in any form. If we go bowling, you will
Speaker 1: pay for your own shoes that are are clearly used
Speaker 1: and returned immediately after.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll help you with the bowling shoes because
Speaker 4: my assumption is that you're not finna walk out the
Speaker 4: bowling alley.
Speaker 1: I'm sure in the bowling shoes. You know so well,
Speaker 1: the baby girl, you're a fool.
Speaker 4: Get you And that's my part, you know, because I
Speaker 4: might as well help you with the bowler shoes.
Speaker 3: You might walk out.
Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see, but I will say I
Speaker 4: have accepted several pairs of shoes. I have been bought shoes,
Speaker 4: you know, multiple times. I have walked out sometimes in
Speaker 4: said shoes, but but not you know, as of late.
Speaker 7: So I think we're okay.
Speaker 4: You know the myth. I don't know we're okay right now?
Speaker 1: Sure in your current relationship, and we we both know
Speaker 1: your your person, your partner in your current relationship. Have
Speaker 1: you received shoes as a gift?
Speaker 4: I have. I have received a lot of shoes. Actually, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that might be the primary thing that.
Speaker 3: He gets my boy.
Speaker 1: All right, See that's a good trick. He's like, if
Speaker 1: I got you too many shoes, you ain't gonna know
Speaker 1: how to leave. You got to put something on leave ye,
Speaker 1: these shoes gonna weigh you down.
Speaker 3: Keep it. Yeah, you gotta get a new bag for
Speaker 3: the shoes. It's old thing.
Speaker 4: But he's a sneakerhead, kind of like a very quiet
Speaker 4: sneaker head.
Speaker 7: So he likes shoes a lot.
Speaker 4: And when I told him I wanted to get my
Speaker 4: sneaker game up, he just bought me like a few
Speaker 4: pairs of shoes that he thought would be good to do.
Speaker 1: That I got you. He really invested in your future
Speaker 1: as as a missus sneaker head.
Speaker 3: I got you. Okay.
Speaker 1: So so you buy into this and immediately did at
Speaker 1: any point where you like, no, Mom, did this is
Speaker 1: silly you old shut up? Or was this just from
Speaker 1: day one?
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 7: I'm in.
Speaker 4: You don't really have to tell me twice any superstition.
Speaker 4: I'm probably in you probably don't want me too much.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I was in pretty immediately.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and my mom is black.
Speaker 4: I would never say that to her. That lady would
Speaker 4: beat me up if anything like that.
Speaker 3: Hey, you don't believe something that your mom says to
Speaker 3: all right? No, I don't know.
Speaker 7: If I don't believe it, I got to not believe
Speaker 7: it by her first name?
Speaker 3: What else am I doing?
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, guys, I'm thirty six. There's a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff I know my mom was real wrong
Speaker 1: about at this point.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I mean, you're saying that now, but she's
Speaker 3: not here.
Speaker 1: Right that the podcast? Yeah no, if you were a guest,
Speaker 1: i'd I'd bite my tongue exactly.
Speaker 3: But then when she myself I'll be talking again.
Speaker 1: There you go, Ory, is this something your mother ever communicated?
Speaker 1: Was this around the Sierra Leone conspiracy world?
Speaker 3: No? Ours are really magic based. So no, I was
Speaker 3: trying to think of anything even. I mean, my mom
Speaker 3: has told me watch the way you get her, because
Speaker 3: that might be how you lose her.
Speaker 7: Definitely, and that and that has rang true pretty my
Speaker 7: time my life.
Speaker 1: A few times, I feel like pimp talk.
Speaker 3: It's a complicated backstory on Miss Sarah. Yes, hears on
Speaker 3: accounting for but uh but no, as far as the
Speaker 3: specific the specific specifty of the specificity of the shoes, no,
Speaker 3: I never got it, but I have. I've heard it
Speaker 3: enough that like it also seems like a timing thing, right, Like,
Speaker 3: because in my head, I'm like, if I'm buying shoes,
Speaker 3: I'm either super committed and it's going really well or
Speaker 3: I'm trying to like fix the sinking ship. Right yeah,
Speaker 3: So that's like if that's the last ship I bought her.
Speaker 3: I bought her that a week ago, two weeks ago,
Speaker 3: and she she was because she was wearing them because
Speaker 3: she just got them.
Speaker 1: That does feel like it could fall under Like save
Speaker 1: us asked gifts, you know what I mean, I get
Speaker 1: some salvage ship where it's like this isn't going well,
Speaker 1: but we all agree shoes are nice, Yeah, real.
Speaker 3: Shoes, not like up tempos.
Speaker 4: I'm not like, yeah, okay, I have a friend whose
Speaker 4: relationship was not going well and that nigga started looking
Speaker 4: at engagement rings. So I know.
Speaker 1: That's a dumb dumb he's wrong. I don't think you.
Speaker 1: I don't think you commit for the rest of your
Speaker 1: life to some ship that's already not pleasant at home.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Now, you're very right, double down.
Speaker 1: That's that's fucking insane. What did he also take the
Speaker 1: condom off? You idiot?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The reverse parent trap reverse. I don't recall what that
Speaker 3: movie was about.
Speaker 1: I think it was about Lindsay Lohan being her healthiest self.
Speaker 8: You know, very much mistook it then, Yeah, I think
Speaker 8: that was that was just a nice young lady who
Speaker 8: wasn't yet jaded and or scarred from a fucked up industry.
Speaker 1: And also Liam Neeson's wife. Really, yeah, it wasn't the
Speaker 1: British mom. Wasn't that Neeson's wife who died. I think
Speaker 1: she died in a very pretty tragic way. I think
Speaker 1: she got hit. She was like on a skiing accident,
Speaker 1: hit her head, and then like they had like looked
Speaker 1: at her and ship and she was fine, and then
Speaker 1: like hours later died from like concussion, you know, bleeding
Speaker 1: inside and ship.
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to bring the mood down, but you can't
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 7: Another conspiracy that's out.
Speaker 1: I love that. This is why you can't go skin
Speaker 1: because Liam Neeson's wife was murder. Yah, Sonny Bono hit
Speaker 1: a tree and he died from from skin. A lot
Speaker 1: of scan deaths.
Speaker 3: Apparently it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: It is so so sequoia. Given the fact that you
Speaker 1: have received shoes in your relationship, given the fact that
Speaker 1: you presumably are in a happy, healthy situation, does that
Speaker 1: in any way change your perspective on the possibility of
Speaker 1: buying my man, who is a sneaker head, some some shoes,
Speaker 1: get my man some kicks. Is the question will you
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 4: I buy my man plenty of things.
Speaker 7: Plenty of things, Okay.
Speaker 4: I would also say he's very personnicity when it comes
Speaker 4: to his so as far as buying him something that
Speaker 4: he's gonna wear on his body, the likelihood that he
Speaker 4: likes it is a real crap shoot. So it doesn't
Speaker 4: make sense to take a risk on this superstition, this
Speaker 4: conspiracy that I'm already believe in. When the likelihood that
Speaker 4: he wears him is this much anyways, and on top
Speaker 4: of that, that might be the time he wears him
Speaker 4: to walk out the door, it doesn't make it.
Speaker 7: Damn No, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: Damn Well. First of all, if my wife called me
Speaker 1: person nakedy, I would leave, uh.
Speaker 3: You even those red bandy I am done and I'm
Speaker 3: thinking Rick and Morty collapse with.
Speaker 1: You got me fucked up?
Speaker 3: He's a virgo.
Speaker 4: I know that doesn't mean anything to y'all. Maybe I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't here at the podcast, we don't particularly
Speaker 1: subscribe to uh the Sky Devil Magic Week. We mostly
Speaker 1: we mostly even the tangible shit.
Speaker 4: So y'all have a podcast about conspiracy theories and superstitious
Speaker 4: and astrology. Is where you draw the line?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know it's crazy, right, We're aware that
Speaker 3: it's hypocritical. I'm not like you know.
Speaker 1: Dead So so you're not going to be buying him
Speaker 1: any shoes. You are still going to to gift him
Speaker 1: in other ways that that's all fine. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like this is a conspiracy you need to be spreading
Speaker 1: across other platforms? Are you trying to tell every woman
Speaker 1: you know not to subscribe to to buying shoes?
Speaker 7: As I watched.
Speaker 4: The girlies and the gays be left left and right,
Speaker 4: I feel like this is the ministry that I need
Speaker 4: to spread as far and why do I can possibly
Speaker 4: get it? Stop letting these niggas walk out in the
Speaker 4: ship that you bought in the shoe.
Speaker 3: Damn, don't buy it.
Speaker 4: That's how you that's just how you get in front
Speaker 4: of it. Don't buy it.
Speaker 7: You'd be good.
Speaker 3: This is this is also a rare one for us
Speaker 3: in that you said you have walked out in the
Speaker 3: shoes that you've been bought right. Wow, So that's like
Speaker 3: that's a lot of times these conspiracies are just theories.
Speaker 3: But you have, like you have hard fight you're living now.
Speaker 4: I will say I've walked out in some Another another instance,
Speaker 4: the man asked for the shoes back to be mailed
Speaker 4: back to his address.
Speaker 7: Whoa mailed from his address?
Speaker 1: I gave him back? I did?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 7: I didn't want to.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to hear the mouth. I didn't want
Speaker 4: no confusion. This is a wrap you can take your
Speaker 4: shoes back to. Don't need them either, Damn I didn't first.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't even know you could do that.
Speaker 3: This is what we need to be talking about as
Speaker 3: far as like influential things on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Fellas wake Up. You can ask for stuff back.
Speaker 3: I hope he's a mayor at least because it sounds like.
Speaker 1: Is this renaissance man.
Speaker 3: It was just renegade.
Speaker 7: He was just he was just hurt.
Speaker 4: You know, he was.
Speaker 1: Mad at you.
Speaker 3: He was all mad. That's also difference. Did he ask
Speaker 3: you be a text or email to send the shoes back?
Speaker 7: He texted me email email.
Speaker 3: You even know you could do that, like back in
Speaker 3: the text message, but you knew it's that dressed. I assume, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Sent him the shoes back. Yeah, I went to the
Speaker 4: USBs who shipped them on paym all low.
Speaker 1: And these were I have to assume these were pretty
Speaker 1: nice shoes. If he if he made a point of this.
Speaker 4: They were Hirachis. I was also like the time, so yeah,
Speaker 4: that was nice Sport twenty.
Speaker 3: One right right, right, right right.
Speaker 1: We were playing a different game back.
Speaker 4: Then, I guess yeah, And it was for I did
Speaker 4: like them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what color were they?
Speaker 7: They were?
Speaker 4: They have like a they were customized from Nike I
Speaker 4: do dot com and they had like a pink tone
Speaker 4: area and some snake print on the on the outside
Speaker 4: of the It was a whole whole seduce.
Speaker 1: So he went out of his way to give you
Speaker 1: custom Haurachis and then was like, I'm keeping these just
Speaker 1: out of because he can't give them. Well, maybe he can.
Speaker 1: Maybe this hero uh those chis from lady to lady.
Speaker 3: Maybe this sounds fucked up, But do you still have
Speaker 3: his number? Because maybe I could. I'd like to.
Speaker 4: I am very blocked, but you might be able to
Speaker 4: get to him.
Speaker 1: So no, I do like the idea that the Hurrazis
Speaker 1: fit bory and and this ends up being the partnership
Speaker 1: that he's been looking for.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just talking about life. I was
Speaker 3: just talking about life, life outlook, stuff in general. But
Speaker 3: I'll take the Hiurachis as well. I got bigger almost.
Speaker 1: I have big.
Speaker 7: I have big for a woman.
Speaker 4: And so if he was trying to pass them off
Speaker 4: for any other woman, especially because he was short, it
Speaker 4: was unrealistic that he was going to be able to
Speaker 4: find a woman that was under his height that was
Speaker 4: gonna fit my shoe damn all right, So he was
Speaker 4: kind of ship out.
Speaker 3: Of the I think that he wore them. Is that
Speaker 3: a possibility?
Speaker 4: Maybe he wore them. I don't know. I know that
Speaker 4: I went on Nike Idea and Nike I d the
Speaker 4: exact same shoe and shipped to my house because I
Speaker 4: wanted those damn shoes.
Speaker 1: So Oh, so you you memorized the color way enough,
Speaker 1: you had it locked in that you were like, I
Speaker 1: can replicate this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been looking at that. I was like, I can, Nike.
Speaker 4: I do them real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get six million dollar man these Hirachis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and give them back to this man.
Speaker 3: Wow, tailor two Nikes.
Speaker 1: I think that's the name of this episode.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Tailor too Nikes. Okay, yeah, I think we should take
Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back
Speaker 1: with more Socoia Holmes and more. My mama told me, because.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at him, he will smell good.
Speaker 1: I feel good, and you sing good and make love good.
Speaker 1: Oh it's the oh at the end. I think that always,
Speaker 1: at least for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing. And I just see his face.
Speaker 1: Like he's high as ship.
Speaker 3: You had a good cracked face. You see some bad
Speaker 3: crack faces out on the street. James Brown pretty good
Speaker 3: cracked face.
Speaker 1: He went out of here. He went out of here
Speaker 1: exactly looking exactly like we expected him to look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You can't say most people can't say that.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think a bunch of you
Speaker 1: crackheads are gonna die ugly, but not James Brown. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're back here.
Speaker 3: It's to go home.
Speaker 1: So it's a little talking about the possibility that by
Speaker 1: gifting shoes you are you are enabling your partner to
Speaker 1: walk out of your life. Now you've been very clear.
Speaker 1: I think up to this point, although your language in
Speaker 1: the original conspiracy suggested otherwise, that you think that this
Speaker 1: is a largely male issue, that it is gifting men
Speaker 1: the gifts rather than women receiving the gifts.
Speaker 4: I do you know why, because it's the phrasing of
Speaker 4: the conspiracy walk out it's something men do. Leave, it's
Speaker 4: something women.
Speaker 3: You know, this is what I'm here for. It's a strange.
Speaker 3: What do you think is a more negative connotation walk
Speaker 3: out or leave?
Speaker 4: I think walkout is a more negative connotation. Do y'all
Speaker 4: know the song leave by Jojo?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 4: You know that's a that's a girl power song. Like
Speaker 4: that song does a lot for my spirit, gives a
Speaker 4: lot needs to do.
Speaker 1: When you think thirteen year old really inspires you? Hell did.
Speaker 9: One no not not jojo Jojo jojo Jo no no
Speaker 9: no no, no brother, there was a there was Joe,
Speaker 9: There was Jojo of Casey and Jojo, and then in
Speaker 9: in around two thousand and three, there was a white
Speaker 9: child named Jojo who had a hit song and has
Speaker 9: since become very thick.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: And and that woman.
Speaker 6: She absolutely has, Yeah, she has gotten very thick, and
Speaker 6: that that hit song has has kept her in our
Speaker 6: general sort of like cultural lexicon for damn near twenty years.
Speaker 3: Yes, damn, I missed this completely.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it it was a good song. It was
Speaker 1: a hit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, that was definitely hit.
Speaker 4: But walk Out implies Dad said he's gonna go get
Speaker 4: milk and never came back. It feels familiar, right, It's
Speaker 4: like you walked out to go do something you just
Speaker 4: never returned. It's like some level of deception there versus
Speaker 4: leeve I left, get out right now.
Speaker 7: It's the end of you and me. It's the whole
Speaker 7: break up song, right.
Speaker 1: I dare say that this feels like a little bit
Speaker 1: of women resetting the standards a bit. I think you're
Speaker 1: cherry picking quite a bit inside of this, but I
Speaker 1: respect the way you're of cherry picking. I can't necessarily
Speaker 1: dispute it.
Speaker 3: As a man. I will say I have left you
Speaker 3: have left, straight up left, Yeah, without a trace.
Speaker 4: So you walked out like I thought.
Speaker 3: Okay, agreed to disagree. I know the kids.
Speaker 4: With without a Trace implies the walk out to me.
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't even a w I had a smoke bomb.
Speaker 3: I was sucking out of there. I reappeared in a
Speaker 3: safe way parking lot, just like so.
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of research on your conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory that I would love to unpack with you. Some
Speaker 1: of it, I think most of it, I would say,
Speaker 1: is as gendered as the argument you are making that
Speaker 1: the original sort of conception of this seems to be
Speaker 1: specifically about men receiving shoes as a gift from women,
Speaker 1: and specifically or more generally in the TikTok era. Right,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of our our TikTok renaissance, and
Speaker 1: in this TikTok era, it seems to have made a
Speaker 1: major resurgence as something that is being referred to generally
Speaker 1: as the shoe theory. Shoe theory is sort of something that, like,
Speaker 1: if you look up on TikTok, there are a fuck
Speaker 1: ton of videos of people both talking about their experiences
Speaker 1: of having been walked out on and or walking out
Speaker 1: on people because of the gifts of shoes that it
Speaker 1: is extremely popular on TikTok and one of the suggestions
Speaker 1: from a TikToker that the original origins of this theory
Speaker 1: are that in Chinese the word for shoes is extremely close.
Speaker 1: In fact, it looks exactly the same as the word
Speaker 1: for bad luck. Shoes and bad luck and mandarin apparently
Speaker 1: are pretty much identical.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're getting somewhere. It sounded real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, once you throw mandarin in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it ancient. It makes it like a
Speaker 1: more like we undug of artifact, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Anything that takes place on continental Asia I trust wholehearted.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do all that I went to
Speaker 1: I went to China one time, and we were riding
Speaker 1: on trains that had like just holes in the ground
Speaker 1: where you were supposed to like shit in pee. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how to go that far.
Speaker 3: And it's yeah, yeah, yeah, China, I.
Speaker 1: Lived a life, baby.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's how you're supposed to ship and pee. Lin Ston,
Speaker 4: I don't know, did you try it?
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I held it for seventeen hours.
Speaker 3: You did even pee down there? Down there?
Speaker 1: I think I peed I think I paid.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: We were. This was back when I was a teacher
Speaker 1: and I got chosen as the teacher liaison for our
Speaker 1: exchange kids. So we went on a trip to China
Speaker 1: and rode a train from Beijing to Shian, which is
Speaker 1: a seventeen hour train ride overnight, and that multiple points
Speaker 1: woke up to people like in our rooms just staring
Speaker 1: at me and the other black children because they had
Speaker 1: never seen black people before.
Speaker 7: You're joking, No, like.
Speaker 1: Middle of the night, there's just a man being like, whoa.
Speaker 1: This feels like what the fuck? And it's unnerving. Shit,
Speaker 1: for sure, very unnerving.
Speaker 4: Okay, so okay, as a black person might be a
Speaker 4: little bit scary.
Speaker 7: But yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So some of the other sort of like problems, or
Speaker 1: at least one of the problems I sort of found
Speaker 1: in unpacking some of this research is that beyond this
Speaker 1: suggestion of the correlation between bad luck and shoes in Mandarin,
Speaker 1: a lot of the evidence seems to be rooted in
Speaker 1: personal story. It's a lot of people being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I bought them shoes, ain't seen the nigga since, And
Speaker 1: it's not it's not founded by any you know, real
Speaker 1: evidence as much as it's just hurt feelings and bad
Speaker 1: energy because she got mad, please.
Speaker 3: She got walked out on exactly.
Speaker 1: Exactly, because I'll be honest, because every single person making
Speaker 1: these videos always got like weird stringy hair and the
Speaker 1: tank tops falling off on one side.
Speaker 4: Because they got walked It.
Speaker 1: Does feel like their lives fell apart at the sort
Speaker 1: of like end of these relationships. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's their fault or the shoeman, but one way
Speaker 1: or the other, it seems to be an issue.
Speaker 3: We need to get some more shoeman.
Speaker 1: On here, we do. It would be nice to have
Speaker 1: a shoeman like a man who's like, collected a fair
Speaker 1: amount of shoes and walked out and to hear his perspective.
Speaker 7: Linksen, has your wife ever bought you shoes?
Speaker 1: My wife has bought me shoes, and I think about
Speaker 1: leaving every day, but.
Speaker 4: Look there it is.
Speaker 3: Wait. I have a question, So when when these men
Speaker 3: bought you the shoes that you walked out and did
Speaker 3: you do you feel like you knew like when you
Speaker 3: got the shoes where you about, Oh, I'm about to
Speaker 3: put these on.
Speaker 1: And that's a great question.
Speaker 4: When I got the shoes I was like, this is
Speaker 4: a bad omen. This is you know, it's like this
Speaker 4: all right, but you know, thank you. The first one
Speaker 4: was with some hairachis. That was when I was like
Speaker 4: maybe nineteen and then or not, yeah, no, not Harachis.
Speaker 7: What are the roach runs?
Speaker 4: That's what the first one was.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a very generic you know.
Speaker 4: It was like it was a pink roach run did leave,
Speaker 4: and then it was the Harahis also left but sent
Speaker 4: those backs. So I feel like that's kind of a
Speaker 4: balancing act. And now I'm shoot up. I have a
Speaker 4: plethora of shoes, a bounty if you will, and I'm here.
Speaker 7: I'll be staying, so it's good.
Speaker 1: I'm here. Doesn't that's not a good omen for the relationship.
Speaker 3: Either at all. I'm here right, I'm here right.
Speaker 4: But Porter doesn't care about these types of things, like
Speaker 4: even what I tell him, like, oh you don't like
Speaker 4: buy shoes? He's like enough anyway.
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to play this game. You know, well,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be prouder of them. They're one of my issues,
Speaker 1: and Bory, i'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1: One of my issues with this conspiracy theory and This
Speaker 1: was a problem for me is that I've been with
Speaker 1: my wife for almost eight years now, right, and if
Speaker 1: I am buying gifts the way that I am meant
Speaker 1: to buy gifts, We're talking birthdays, We're talking the holiday season,
Speaker 1: We're talking Valentine's Day, and now Mother's Day. I'm two
Speaker 1: years into having to do Mother's Day as well. So
Speaker 1: that's four gifts a year, four gifts a year. And
Speaker 1: if I eliminate shoes from that conversation, I am I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy the bit free se pops like I'm
Speaker 1: out of options. That's what I'm saying. So what what
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do with all of this territory
Speaker 1: that's sort of being taken off of the field.
Speaker 3: That is a lot, it's a lot of gifts.
Speaker 4: Just toss the money thought she was going by the shoes.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to convince me that buy that giving
Speaker 1: a woman the gift of money?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, this is what tell me give it
Speaker 3: a cash like that.
Speaker 1: I feel barely certain that just handing her an envelope
Speaker 1: filled with one hundred and eighty six dollars would not
Speaker 1: would not cover it.
Speaker 3: Hey, Pimpsy always said it ain't trick if you're married.
Speaker 7: There you okay, there you go.
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding. It's tricking too.
Speaker 1: It's still trigging fly that.
Speaker 4: That seems fine to me personally.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't know, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's gonna fly in the old
Speaker 1: Kerman household.
Speaker 3: But day you good looking out on it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's specific on the envelope cover. That's that's all
Speaker 4: it is. You put SPA on it, and it's the
Speaker 4: Mother's Day gifts.
Speaker 1: Hey, baby girl, I pulled this out of our joint
Speaker 1: checking account.
Speaker 3: You saw me do it. You thought I was drunk
Speaker 3: at the improv last night.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you know how we pool money. Well,
Speaker 1: I took some of that money and I'm giving it
Speaker 1: back to you.
Speaker 4: Just take it from the baby college fund.
Speaker 7: And then.
Speaker 3: The chances are these days a baby is going to college,
Speaker 3: especially you're kind of raising a neo baby. It's might
Speaker 3: not need it. That's what.
Speaker 1: That's definitely my hope. Affirmative action is no longer a thing.
Speaker 1: She's not going to be able to lean on any
Speaker 1: of her her rich black history growing up as a
Speaker 1: rich girl in l A. Uh. Yeah, I'm rich for
Speaker 1: right now, two strikes in. I'm doing okay, but no,
Speaker 1: I do think that maybe there's no reason for college funds.
Speaker 1: And then at that point, yeah, you have the money,
Speaker 1: you can just get envelopes and ship.
Speaker 4: Right, and you buy your baby shoes, right, So you
Speaker 4: buy your you buy your shoes, shoes. Nobody's left yet,
Speaker 4: so it might be fine. But have you been bought
Speaker 4: shoes by your wife?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 1: I have, I've bought her shoes. We we seem to
Speaker 1: be working.
Speaker 3: And like you said, he contemplates it every day.
Speaker 4: There be no legitimacy here.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with it. I'm gonna stand behind it,
Speaker 4: but I'm happy told.
Speaker 1: My experience is not enough to shift you towards a
Speaker 1: more open mind as it relates to shoes.
Speaker 3: Certainly, Well, here's a big question, Likeston. Previously, because you
Speaker 3: had a life before your wife, you were often trying
Speaker 3: to gallivanti you doing God knows what. Gotta knows what.
Speaker 3: Has a woman ever bought you some shoes and you
Speaker 3: did walk out in said shoes?
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't think i've ever received before my wife.
Speaker 1: I can't remember a person who bought me shoes before
Speaker 1: my wife.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be able to remember anybody before your wife
Speaker 4: in the first place.
Speaker 1: What hey, hey, I remember some.
Speaker 3: Of them.
Speaker 1: I remember pretty good. And uh, but no, I don't
Speaker 1: think that I was receiving shoes as a gift, and
Speaker 1: I will say that if and that was part of
Speaker 1: my issue inside of this too, is I think it's
Speaker 1: really important that we unpack which shoes you got from
Speaker 1: the person, because if they're ass, like, if they're bad shoes,
Speaker 1: that's enough to make me reconsider a lot of things
Speaker 1: in this relationship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But then you also got to put them on to
Speaker 3: walk out, so you got to be like, these shoes
Speaker 3: are ass, But then you wear them, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, you still gotta wear them if you're
Speaker 3: gonna walk out, well said.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had one of those days where like,
Speaker 1: you put on an outfit, a gift, whatever, and then
Speaker 1: you go through the day in this ship and you
Speaker 1: just feel dumber and dumber and less confident and less confident.
Speaker 1: Imagine that, right, Imagine that experience, and then you're like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm leaving, I'm done.
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm actually a little scared now. Because
Speaker 4: it just down on me that I absolutely have bought
Speaker 4: that man shoes.
Speaker 7: Oh, I bought him.
Speaker 4: Some bands because he specifically mentioned that he wanted some vands,
Speaker 4: some lace up high time folks.
Speaker 7: So I bought some damn bands.
Speaker 1: Folks. We got a liar on the podcast. We gotta
Speaker 1: really we got a goddamn liar here on the podcast. Takoya,
Speaker 1: you've you've been dishonest this whole time?
Speaker 3: Changes everything?
Speaker 4: How dare I? I can't believe. I am so sorry.
Speaker 3: Because what I'm hearing right now is your partner is
Speaker 3: the only person and Langston are the only So it's
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty, right because Garret's never caught shoes and
Speaker 3: walked out. You have Langston has an I have, So
Speaker 3: then it's like it cancels out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're neutral.
Speaker 4: Me and Eric are not married. So I don't know
Speaker 4: that you could leave in the bands tomorrow.
Speaker 3: For all I know, I don't know it could. It's
Speaker 3: still a possibility. You know, it's not how marriage walk
Speaker 3: this wifstail out there.
Speaker 7: Don't feel that it does.
Speaker 4: I feel that it does.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is surely just a dating issue for you.
Speaker 1: This is not once it becomes more formally committal. We
Speaker 1: were good.
Speaker 4: Sign on the dotted line, and all that goes away.
Speaker 3: I think, now we're buying each other's stuff off.
Speaker 4: Now we could buy shoes.
Speaker 1: I don't know that my wife bought me shoes before
Speaker 1: we were married.
Speaker 3: She know something, she probably Yeah, yeah, you should ask
Speaker 3: her about this afternoon. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's a sneaky snake, that one. So I bet she probably.
Speaker 1: I bet she probably was avoiding getting me shoes until
Speaker 1: I I committed more substantially.
Speaker 7: You never know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: One of the other things that I tried to look
Speaker 1: up or thought would be helpful to look up, is
Speaker 1: how long the average relationship lasts, right, Like, I think
Speaker 1: weighing into some of that factors into how we interpret
Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory. And according to Google, the average relationship
Speaker 1: is two years and nine months long.
Speaker 3: No, okay, that can't be true.
Speaker 1: That's that's the average.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's too long. That average. They're saying
Speaker 3: average relationships are two years and nine months.
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense, right because they're saying that
Speaker 1: seventy percent.
Speaker 3: All right, maybe I'm just broken. All right, we'll take it,
Speaker 3: We'll walk Like.
Speaker 1: This sounds like it sounds like somebody's never hit the average.
Speaker 3: It's extra nine months. That's the whole baby.
Speaker 1: So what they also say is that seventy percent of
Speaker 1: relationships and within the first year, seventy percent are done
Speaker 1: before a year is up.
Speaker 7: That makes sense.
Speaker 4: They take a man to pick out like that at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then that math is crazy. If seventy percent
Speaker 3: and within the first year, then the only the other
Speaker 3: thirty If those are relationships, then there's only thirty percent
Speaker 3: relationships that go past two years nine months with then
Speaker 3: the average camp be two years nine months.
Speaker 1: Well, I think this feels like hustling backwards. Brother, I
Speaker 1: think I need I need this, I need this now,
Speaker 1: you're right. The math, the math that's man. Yeah, beat
Speaker 1: up that man's power.
Speaker 3: Math. This is insane. I knew it, I knew right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're perfectly normal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't send us any fucking emails with the math.
Speaker 3: I was thankingle for the other math emails. Don't fucking don't.
Speaker 3: Don't pull up on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. We don't need you making my man
Speaker 1: feel bad because you want to show him exactly why
Speaker 1: he hasn't made it.
Speaker 3: As long as we've figured it out. I'm regular as hell.
Speaker 4: I've gotten to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, two years long. I had two for two years,
Speaker 3: but that feels like two years, not months. I don't
Speaker 3: believe it. Two years, two years and a long time,
Speaker 3: two years and a baby average.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I'm telling it seems.
Speaker 1: One of the other things that that I wanted to
Speaker 1: find out is based off of that information, what are
Speaker 1: the most common causes for breakups? And according to the
Speaker 1: list that I found, uh, Hurachi's unfortunately not on the list.
Speaker 1: They're not mentioning Hirachi's vans.
Speaker 3: And none of the New Balances have ended some sh.
Speaker 1: New Balance was number twenty six. Uh, not hate but balance.
Speaker 3: But no, I love New Balances, but I feel like
Speaker 3: a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: Were getting They're a polarizing choice. I think we can
Speaker 1: all agree on that.
Speaker 3: Do you hate New Balances? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't hate them, but I think you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a You're gonna get a bold reaction from whoever you
Speaker 1: give them to.
Speaker 7: Okay, we got maybe maybe.
Speaker 1: I'm just thirty six and when I grew up, we
Speaker 1: beat up kids with New Balanced shoes.
Speaker 3: So you know now you're you're not from Uh, you
Speaker 3: know from like DC.
Speaker 1: No, and maybe that's the problem. Maybe I just wasn't
Speaker 1: from where they make them at. So we were like nigga,
Speaker 1: that's trash. That said, we were also wearing case twists,
Speaker 1: so like Chicago's got that, we got to impact.
Speaker 4: I forgot got about case Swiss, sure.
Speaker 3: Me too, that was old. They stripes too many.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of stripes on the case list.
Speaker 3: Too many stripes.
Speaker 1: Case Swiss in the Midwest was an infestation that I
Speaker 1: and I was. I was bitten by those rats.
Speaker 8: So originals, right, or did you have like crazy No,
Speaker 8: I wasn't getting white ones.
Speaker 1: You get the white those. Yeah, those were your two options.
Speaker 4: Nothing could be worse than the infestation of phone posits
Speaker 4: that's still taking place in DC today.
Speaker 3: On the East coast in general, let it go yeah
Speaker 3: this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, phone posits they had, They had a very unfortunate
Speaker 1: rise in the in the like early well late early,
Speaker 1: not so like two thousand and eight to twenty like twelve.
Speaker 1: That were going crazy. And now we got to put
Speaker 1: those down.
Speaker 3: Babies. We gotta yellow ones come out, remember the bright
Speaker 3: yellow ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never any phone positives, never once me either.
Speaker 3: But I was broken. I got a weird ankle. It's
Speaker 3: not good for fact ankles. It's not it's not a
Speaker 3: good fact.
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I knew I couldn't. Whatever I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing that wasn't. That wasn't where I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It didn't include phone positive. I'm proud of you for that.
Speaker 4: I'm happy for Yeah.
Speaker 1: Get I was like, this ain't this ain't mine. This
Speaker 1: ain't my culture. I'm not. I don't get it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stay over here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for you. I'm gonna weave my case switches on.
Speaker 3: Tight up, tight, tie up, real tight.
Speaker 1: So so, the leading causes, or at least what they
Speaker 1: claim is the leading causes for breakups are the top five,
Speaker 1: and this list was twenty six long. But the withdrawing
Speaker 1: during arguments apparently was the number one cause for relationships dissolving.
Speaker 1: Withdrawing during arguments.
Speaker 4: Someone say, someone say walking away, walking away, but that's
Speaker 4: or even you know, it's different.
Speaker 1: Not agreeing on big picture decisions was number two. Holding
Speaker 1: your partner to unrealistic standards was number three. Being afraid
Speaker 1: of being alone and subsequently avoiding conflicts so that you
Speaker 1: can keep that person was number four, and then finally
Speaker 1: relying on body language to convey feelings.
Speaker 3: It was number five.
Speaker 1: So no shoes, not one mention of Rebok classics. Sir,
Speaker 1: whatever the.
Speaker 4: Fuck we heard it in the first one they said
Speaker 4: walking away, walking out, it was right there. You gotta
Speaker 4: read between the lines, open your third eye.
Speaker 1: Please, damn damn.
Speaker 3: I got what.
Speaker 1: I do think that that if I were to make
Speaker 1: a choice inside of this for myself, and I recognize
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change your mind, Sequoya, even for a second,
Speaker 1: I do feel like at the of this, it feels
Speaker 1: like people are blaming shoes for a bunch of failures
Speaker 1: that are probably already happening inside of their relationships, that
Speaker 1: that it's less about the shoes themselves and more about
Speaker 1: the communication that that probably led to you feeling like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy you some custom, Hirachis, even though you
Speaker 1: and I ain't really in the best of ways in
Speaker 1: our relationship.
Speaker 3: And he scrolls all the way to the cheetah print.
Speaker 3: That's like a deep like you don't you don't put
Speaker 3: the cheeta print the first place that you placed it
Speaker 3: on the Nike ID. That was like, let me try
Speaker 3: the tongue. No wait, like he went around with the cheetahprint,
Speaker 3: so he really put.
Speaker 7: I appreciate the throw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor god. I mean, don't cry for him. You
Speaker 3: said the shoes. This man is a hero, because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about him.
Speaker 1: He got he got those shoes framed and put up somewhere.
Speaker 4: He found another short but big footed girl. He can
Speaker 4: reuse the shoes.
Speaker 1: For a big, all long told girl that he can.
Speaker 1: He can make feel about him the way you you
Speaker 1: never could.
Speaker 4: Losing a Bulevards, I hope that that happened for him.
Speaker 1: Bory, where do you fall in this? Where? Ultimately? Where
Speaker 1: are you in this conspiracy?
Speaker 3: I wanted all episodes to be I think that I
Speaker 3: think I fall under. This is probably a common coincidence.
Speaker 3: I think shoes are just a common I want it
Speaker 3: to be real, but I think shoes are a pretty
Speaker 3: common gift to get somebody specifically, like I said, when
Speaker 3: the ship is sinking. So yeah, I think it's because
Speaker 3: we have as many people who have done it as
Speaker 3: who have not. So it feels like, well, actually, I
Speaker 3: guess we just take the numbers right now, sixty six
Speaker 3: have it. So I mean well, Olivia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you have you bought shoes for your partner
Speaker 1: and and or a partner in the past, has shoes
Speaker 1: been a gift that you've led to or gone with rather.
Speaker 3: Or also received you walked out? This is a bad memory,
Speaker 3: all received.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm stuck. She is married, she has a very
Speaker 1: lovely husband and uh and she's stuck with them now
Speaker 1: because of those those sweet shoes.
Speaker 3: Those sweet.
Speaker 4: So they might be anchors to you know, they anchored
Speaker 4: the relationship, relationship.
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful way.
Speaker 1: I like that shoes. Shoes are a commitment gift. You're
Speaker 1: either in or you're out with shoes. There is no
Speaker 1: once shoes start crossing the line, you got to make
Speaker 1: a bold choice. And it seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: brothers are making important choices when they walk out of
Speaker 1: these women's lives, not just the criminal ones. Men are
Speaker 1: heroes and women have a lot to learn. I think
Speaker 1: we I then we got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: That's all we need to take.
Speaker 3: That's about Yeah. Yeah, you're right, that was a great
Speaker 3: wrap up. I never I mean, of God, beautiful watch.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Sequoya. Could you tell the people
Speaker 1: where they can find you? And what cool shit you
Speaker 1: have going on.
Speaker 4: Yes, you can listen to my podcast Black People Love
Speaker 4: Paramore anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's kind of about
Speaker 4: the underrepresented things that black people like. Their mainstream media
Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily associate with Black people like animate, Tony Hawk,
Speaker 4: Are on the grounde et cetera, et cetera. You can
Speaker 4: find me across social media platforms at Sequoia b homes
Speaker 4: and you can find my podcast at bpop Pod across
Speaker 4: social media platforms as well.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, so so yeah, go listen to the podcast,
Speaker 1: Go follow Sequoia.
Speaker 3: She's great.
Speaker 1: Boy. You want to tell the people where they can
Speaker 1: find you?
Speaker 3: Cool that jokes eighty seven on Instagram. I'm going on
Speaker 3: tour the Flyers coming up today or tomorrow. Uh but yeah,
Speaker 3: and then the tour, bring David to Plate dot com
Speaker 3: for tickets. Go there and figure it all out. I'm
Speaker 3: coming to your city. I would love to see you.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be great. Hell yeah.
Speaker 1: And as always, if you want to follow me, follow
Speaker 1: me at Langston Kerman on Instagram and now threads. I'm threadning, bitch.
Speaker 3: I saw you on there. I went over there. I
Speaker 3: couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Bro, your first Your first thread was like, nah, I'm
Speaker 1: good and you've bounced, Yeah, knocking back. I thought it
Speaker 1: would be a bit, but you're like, no, I'm surely
Speaker 1: I can't do it.
Speaker 3: I really hate it. It's positive.
Speaker 1: Everybody high five each other right now.
Speaker 7: Yet it's boring.
Speaker 1: But it ain't negative, I guess is maybe the best
Speaker 1: way of putting it. It's a lot of just people
Speaker 1: recycling their old material hoping it's gonna make them go
Speaker 1: viral on this new platform. That said, it's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not going to make you healthier. It's just not
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a sickness the way that
Speaker 1: Twitter is yet.
Speaker 3: But it will.
Speaker 1: It will get there, I have no doubt. Yeah, that said,
Speaker 1: you can follow me at Langston Kerman and uh my
Speaker 1: mama told me we got some dates coming up for you.
Speaker 1: We're still we're locking in the final piece of material
Speaker 1: that's going to allow us to announce this upcoming tour.
Speaker 1: Otherwise just send us your own Oh go ahead.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, can we say the cities we're
Speaker 3: going to just.
Speaker 1: So they yes, Yeah, let's listen, all right.
Speaker 3: I got them right here. We're going to Seattle, Los Angeles, Houston, Austin, Chicago,
Speaker 3: New York, and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, so over August.
Speaker 3: Basically, if you.
Speaker 1: Live in any of those cities, you should come. And
Speaker 1: if you live near those cities, bitch, get in the
Speaker 1: car and come on by, as we want to see you.
Speaker 1: We want to see it, and you want to see
Speaker 1: us because because yeah, we're gonna be there and send
Speaker 1: us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories. Tell us
Speaker 1: who walked out of your life at my mama pod
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you,
Speaker 1: and uh and that's it. Bye, bitch bye.
Speaker 10: Look, if you hate cops just because of cops, the
Speaker 10: next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead.
Speaker 5: My chips and your babies. All Kala bears are racist.
Speaker 5: The lasting money turny stuff.
Speaker 3: I can't tell the
Speaker 2: TECs me a hearty chamber