WEBVTT - That Ex Is Made For Walkin' (with Sequoia Holmes)

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<v Speaker 1>It's more, it's more exciting for Kanye to blame the

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<v Speaker 1>Jews than it is for him to blame the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how do you feel back this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, it's more exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>How happy he is if Kanye.

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<v Speaker 1>If Kanye was like, I lost my Adidas contract because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Gemini, that's boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Go.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he's like, there's a Jewish cabal planning against me,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, we're having fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime I hear ohd any kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of as a July, I would absolutely believe Kanye if

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<v Speaker 4>you said that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, You're like, no, I get what I get. What's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get us?

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody here?

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, babies, chips in your.

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<v Speaker 5>Quals, Racists, the money, turkey stuff I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>As titties, ass and titties. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets

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<v Speaker 3>of black conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 1>And we finally worked to prove that soldier boys kiss

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<v Speaker 1>Me through the phone wasn't homage to the NSA.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, move over, gonna move over, Gunna.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Draco was the first rapper to make snitching swaggy

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<v Speaker 1>as fuck you goddamn right here is doing it first. Baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a beautiful anecdotal so your girlfriend, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it was, it was it was about secure. It's really

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<v Speaker 3>like enemy of the state too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was like, I got you, I got you,

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<v Speaker 1>big government, big Draco, Big Draco taking care of you

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<v Speaker 1>from now on. Damn, I'll teach these niggas to talk

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll make them big government kissing you a public.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Langs think Herman.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm David Boy, and I want to say I

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<v Speaker 3>love that song. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Here's the thing is is Sojia Boy has often,

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<v Speaker 1>very often gotten a lot of flak for being deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh deserved is saying she's boy person. But I'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I think he's done a lot more than we

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<v Speaker 1>like to give him credit for. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty obnoxious guy. I think we can all agree on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But but he's pretty He's contributed a lot more than

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<v Speaker 1>we realized.

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<v Speaker 3>And the htes are the hits. I mean, I remember

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<v Speaker 3>driving home from work, which would I had a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>to play kiss me through the phone too? You know

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<v Speaker 3>what that was?

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<v Speaker 1>Real time, and I'm sorry that happened to you yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I I pray to God that we fixed

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<v Speaker 1>it by tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I don't have a car anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, our guest today has already come out as an

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<v Speaker 1>anti soljiaboy officionado. I don't know what the right word

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<v Speaker 1>is to be anti something, but she she hates Soljia boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I'll tell you this. She came with the

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that we're very excited about. She's she's lovely,

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<v Speaker 1>she's talented, she's a podcaster, specifically, you know her best

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<v Speaker 1>from her podcast Black People Love Paramore. And we're so

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<v Speaker 1>happy she's here with us today. Please give it up

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<v Speaker 1>for Sequoya Home City Bar City Bar.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was excited to be on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited to have you. You came with the

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory that I would say, if I'm being careful

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<v Speaker 1>in my verbiage, probably falls closer to like old wives tale,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, sort of like the pre internet conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory language that we often use. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>has hit a pretty major resurgence in recent years that

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm excited about. But you said, my mama told me.

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<v Speaker 4>If you buy your romantic partner shoes, they'll walk out

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<v Speaker 4>of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>My mama did tell us everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell me that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was really proud of this one because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking on the internet and I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 4>because my mom has definitely said some wild shit to

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<v Speaker 4>me before. What does she be saying, Yeah, I came

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<v Speaker 4>up with this on I was like, yes, absolutely, this

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<v Speaker 4>lady has absolutely said don't buy no nigga no shoes

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<v Speaker 4>because them the shoes that he is going to leave

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<v Speaker 4>the door when he leaves. I said, wow, And guess

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<v Speaker 4>what I have never done, never bought a nigga no shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>Sound never once going to make sure I never brought.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already lying scratching at one time.

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<v Speaker 4>I would hate to go look at Garrett's wardrobe of

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<v Speaker 4>shoes and be like, damn, I did buy him right there.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a very trendy guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you're saying you've never to your to your recollection,

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<v Speaker 1>you've never once bought a man shoes, So it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>as if you're pretty bought in on this conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I'm wall in on all of the old

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<v Speaker 4>wives tale superstitions that you hear about, especially ones that

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<v Speaker 4>involve niggas walking out the door. We're doing, We're doing

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely worry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a surface area thing, like it's not so

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<v Speaker 3>much this specific thing as much as it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>common babe wow.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's the one thing we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>Is leave, Also, don't buy the niggle pizza because you

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<v Speaker 3>might walk out the door like there's this baby girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna go either way.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, we want to be whole and

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<v Speaker 4>honest about it. My mom said, don't buy a nigga nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I haven't got respect it respect. I haven't gone

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<v Speaker 4>that far. I just not buying shoes. I buy you

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<v Speaker 4>sign you'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy I love something, but but shoes ain't it? Bor bory?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you live in all of this? If you

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<v Speaker 1>receive shoes as a gift, did you leave immediately after?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does this happen?

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<v Speaker 3>My narrative like that, first.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you have a whole wall of sneeze.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's on the point left because I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna leave. It wasn't because of the shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>What you still have on when you left is the question?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I was a one. I was broke. I was

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<v Speaker 3>a one pair of shoes at a time guy until

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<v Speaker 3>like four years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>How do we go from you didn't have no girlfriend

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<v Speaker 4>to now you walking out with the shoes on. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like it. I don't like it. That's why you

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<v Speaker 4>can't give me any things. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say that's not true. I feel personally

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<v Speaker 3>at TechEd, I know, But how do I feel about

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<v Speaker 3>this one? I think it's possible because I've also heard

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<v Speaker 3>this in relation to men and women. MM. Like my

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<v Speaker 3>homie Miaomie actually just brought this up the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>He's from South Carolina, and he said his mom told

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<v Speaker 3>him the same thing about women.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa that you can't buy a lady shoes because she

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<v Speaker 1>will to walk out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never done for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never never bought a woman's shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, don't talk to me like I'm a fucking psychopath. Langston.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm second that.

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<v Speaker 4>I second that insertion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you felt it right?

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<v Speaker 4>My second what Langston said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not buying the dumb dumb had a friend.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all the same behaviors.

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<v Speaker 1>I have bought shoes for women, but I've also lost women,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I don't know that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it was the best behavior I could have, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like they could have been the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of my downfall. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't the first thing you bought her though, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it was not.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing. I'm not a I'm not a simp.

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<v Speaker 3>I I you know you're acting like I put that

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<v Speaker 3>on you. I was just asking a question.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there are stages to like normal gifts unless

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<v Speaker 1>you are fucking drake, and shoes ain't the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>you buy somebody.

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<v Speaker 7>I think, Wow, shoes are Drake level for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That that that feels like I might as well

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<v Speaker 1>pop a half of zand.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like some bands or something you nothing crazy like

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<v Speaker 4>bust of Vans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels like I'm making bold choices for your

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<v Speaker 1>future in a way that that I have to know

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<v Speaker 1>you better than than on some like third date ship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like I'm telling you what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to wear. That's that's a big step.

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<v Speaker 3>You put up shoe money for an experience, That's like no,

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<v Speaker 3>I meant more like I spend a shoes amount of

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<v Speaker 3>money on an experience, But like buying the specific shoes

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<v Speaker 3>does feel very I don't know presumptuous is a way,

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<v Speaker 3>but it does. It's like heavy, it's it's weighted for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me ask how far this reaches for you, Sequoia,

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<v Speaker 1>are you like no, I will not help you acquire

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<v Speaker 1>shoes in any form. If we go bowling, you will

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<v Speaker 1>pay for your own shoes that are are clearly used

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<v Speaker 1>and returned immediately after.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll help you with the bowling shoes because

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<v Speaker 4>my assumption is that you're not finna walk out the

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<v Speaker 4>bowling alley.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in the bowling shoes. You know so well,

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<v Speaker 1>the baby girl, you're a fool.

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<v Speaker 4>Get you And that's my part, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 4>might as well help you with the bowler shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>You might walk out.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, we'll see, but I will say I

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<v Speaker 4>have accepted several pairs of shoes. I have been bought shoes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, multiple times. I have walked out sometimes in

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<v Speaker 4>said shoes, but but not you know, as of late.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think we're okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You know the myth. I don't know we're okay right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure in your current relationship, and we we both know

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<v Speaker 1>your your person, your partner in your current relationship. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you received shoes as a gift?

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<v Speaker 4>I have. I have received a lot of shoes. Actually, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that might be the primary thing that.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets my boy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, See that's a good trick. He's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I got you too many shoes, you ain't gonna know

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<v Speaker 1>how to leave. You got to put something on leave ye,

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<v Speaker 1>these shoes gonna weigh you down.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it. Yeah, you gotta get a new bag for

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<v Speaker 3>the shoes. It's old thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's a sneakerhead, kind of like a very quiet

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<v Speaker 4>sneaker head.

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<v Speaker 7>So he likes shoes a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I told him I wanted to get my

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<v Speaker 4>sneaker game up, he just bought me like a few

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<v Speaker 4>pairs of shoes that he thought would be good to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That I got you. He really invested in your future

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<v Speaker 1>as as a missus sneaker head.

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<v Speaker 3>I got you. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you buy into this and immediately did at

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<v Speaker 1>any point where you like, no, Mom, did this is

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<v Speaker 1>silly you old shut up? Or was this just from

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<v Speaker 1>day one?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't really have to tell me twice any superstition.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm probably in you probably don't want me too much.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, no, I was in pretty immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, and my mom is black.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never say that to her. That lady would

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<v Speaker 4>beat me up if anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you don't believe something that your mom says to

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<v Speaker 3>all right? No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>If I don't believe it, I got to not believe

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<v Speaker 7>it by her first name?

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<v Speaker 3>What else am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, guys, I'm thirty six. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff I know my mom was real wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. I mean, you're saying that now, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>not here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that the podcast? Yeah no, if you were a guest,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd I'd bite my tongue exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But then when she myself I'll be talking again.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Ory, is this something your mother ever communicated?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this around the Sierra Leone conspiracy world?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Ours are really magic based. So no, I was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to think of anything even. I mean, my mom

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<v Speaker 3>has told me watch the way you get her, because

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<v Speaker 3>that might be how you lose her.

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely, and that and that has rang true pretty my

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<v Speaker 7>time my life.

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<v Speaker 1>A few times, I feel like pimp talk.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a complicated backstory on Miss Sarah. Yes, hears on

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<v Speaker 3>accounting for but uh but no, as far as the

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<v Speaker 3>specific the specific specifty of the specificity of the shoes, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I never got it, but I have. I've heard it

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<v Speaker 3>enough that like it also seems like a timing thing, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>because in my head, I'm like, if I'm buying shoes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm either super committed and it's going really well or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to like fix the sinking ship. Right yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's like if that's the last ship I bought her.

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<v Speaker 3>I bought her that a week ago, two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and she she was because she was wearing them because

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<v Speaker 3>she just got them.

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<v Speaker 1>That does feel like it could fall under Like save

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<v Speaker 1>us asked gifts, you know what I mean, I get

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<v Speaker 1>some salvage ship where it's like this isn't going well,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all agree shoes are nice, Yeah, real.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoes, not like up tempos.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like, yeah, okay, I have a friend whose

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<v Speaker 4>relationship was not going well and that nigga started looking

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<v Speaker 4>at engagement rings. So I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a dumb dumb he's wrong. I don't think you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you commit for the rest of your

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<v Speaker 1>life to some ship that's already not pleasant at home.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Now, you're very right, double down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's fucking insane. What did he also take the

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<v Speaker 1>condom off? You idiot?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The reverse parent trap reverse. I don't recall what that

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<v Speaker 3>movie was about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was about Lindsay Lohan being her healthiest self.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, very much mistook it then, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 8>that was that was just a nice young lady who

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<v Speaker 8>wasn't yet jaded and or scarred from a fucked up industry.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Liam Neeson's wife. Really, yeah, it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>British mom. Wasn't that Neeson's wife who died. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she died in a very pretty tragic way. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she got hit. She was like on a skiing accident,

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<v Speaker 1>hit her head, and then like they had like looked

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<v Speaker 1>at her and ship and she was fine, and then

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<v Speaker 1>like hours later died from like concussion, you know, bleeding

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<v Speaker 1>inside and ship.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry to bring the mood down, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 7>Another conspiracy that's out.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. This is why you can't go skin

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<v Speaker 1>because Liam Neeson's wife was murder. Yah, Sonny Bono hit

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<v Speaker 1>a tree and he died from from skin. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of scan deaths.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so so sequoia. Given the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>have received shoes in your relationship, given the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you presumably are in a happy, healthy situation, does that

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<v Speaker 1>in any way change your perspective on the possibility of

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<v Speaker 1>buying my man, who is a sneaker head, some some shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>get my man some kicks. Is the question will you

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<v Speaker 1>do it?

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<v Speaker 4>I buy my man plenty of things.

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<v Speaker 7>Plenty of things, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I would also say he's very personnicity when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to his so as far as buying him something that

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna wear on his body, the likelihood that he

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<v Speaker 4>likes it is a real crap shoot. So it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>make sense to take a risk on this superstition, this

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<v Speaker 4>conspiracy that I'm already believe in. When the likelihood that

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<v Speaker 4>he wears him is this much anyways, and on top

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<v Speaker 4>of that, that might be the time he wears him

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<v Speaker 4>to walk out the door, it doesn't make it.

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<v Speaker 7>Damn No, I wouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Well. First of all, if my wife called me

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<v Speaker 1>person nakedy, I would leave, uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You even those red bandy I am done and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking Rick and Morty collapse with.

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<v Speaker 1>You got me fucked up?

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<v Speaker 3>He's a virgo.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that doesn't mean anything to y'all. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't here at the podcast, we don't particularly

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to uh the Sky Devil Magic Week. We mostly

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<v Speaker 1>we mostly even the tangible shit.

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<v Speaker 4>So y'all have a podcast about conspiracy theories and superstitious

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<v Speaker 4>and astrology. Is where you draw the line?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I know it's crazy, right, We're aware that

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<v Speaker 3>it's hypocritical. I'm not like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead So so you're not going to be buying him

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<v Speaker 1>any shoes. You are still going to to gift him

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<v Speaker 1>in other ways that that's all fine. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this is a conspiracy you need to be spreading

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<v Speaker 1>across other platforms? Are you trying to tell every woman

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<v Speaker 1>you know not to subscribe to to buying shoes?

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<v Speaker 7>As I watched.

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<v Speaker 4>The girlies and the gays be left left and right,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like this is the ministry that I need

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<v Speaker 4>to spread as far and why do I can possibly

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<v Speaker 4>get it? Stop letting these niggas walk out in the

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<v Speaker 4>ship that you bought in the shoe.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn, don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how you that's just how you get in front

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<v Speaker 4>of it. Don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 7>You'd be good.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is also a rare one for us

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<v Speaker 3>in that you said you have walked out in the

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<v Speaker 3>shoes that you've been bought right. Wow, So that's like

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<v Speaker 3>that's a lot of times these conspiracies are just theories.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have, like you have hard fight you're living now.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say I've walked out in some Another another instance,

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<v Speaker 4>the man asked for the shoes back to be mailed

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<v Speaker 4>back to his address.

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<v Speaker 7>Whoa mailed from his address?

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<v Speaker 1>I gave him back? I did?

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want to hear the mouth. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>no confusion. This is a wrap you can take your

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<v Speaker 4>shoes back to. Don't need them either, Damn I didn't first.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't even know you could do that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we need to be talking about as

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<v Speaker 3>far as like influential things on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Fellas wake Up. You can ask for stuff back.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope he's a mayor at least because it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this renaissance man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just renegade.

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<v Speaker 7>He was just he was just hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad at you.

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<v Speaker 3>He was all mad. That's also difference. Did he ask

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<v Speaker 3>you be a text or email to send the shoes back?

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<v Speaker 7>He texted me email email.

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<v Speaker 3>You even know you could do that, like back in

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<v Speaker 3>the text message, but you knew it's that dressed. I assume, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Sent him the shoes back. Yeah, I went to the

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<v Speaker 4>USBs who shipped them on paym all low.

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<v Speaker 1>And these were I have to assume these were pretty

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<v Speaker 1>nice shoes. If he if he made a point of this.

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<v Speaker 4>They were Hirachis. I was also like the time, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that was nice Sport twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>One right right, right, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>We were playing a different game back.

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<v Speaker 4>Then, I guess yeah, And it was for I did

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<v Speaker 4>like them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what color were they?

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<v Speaker 7>They were?

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<v Speaker 4>They have like a they were customized from Nike I

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<v Speaker 4>do dot com and they had like a pink tone

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<v Speaker 4>area and some snake print on the on the outside

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<v Speaker 4>of the It was a whole whole seduce.

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<v Speaker 1>So he went out of his way to give you

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<v Speaker 1>custom Haurachis and then was like, I'm keeping these just

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<v Speaker 1>out of because he can't give them. Well, maybe he can.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this hero uh those chis from lady to lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this sounds fucked up, But do you still have

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<v Speaker 3>his number? Because maybe I could. I'd like to.

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<v Speaker 4>I am very blocked, but you might be able to

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<v Speaker 4>get to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I do like the idea that the Hurrazis

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<v Speaker 1>fit bory and and this ends up being the partnership

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<v Speaker 1>that he's been looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I was just talking about life. I was

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<v Speaker 3>just talking about life, life outlook, stuff in general. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take the Hiurachis as well. I got bigger almost.

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<v Speaker 1>I have big.

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<v Speaker 7>I have big for a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>And so if he was trying to pass them off

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<v Speaker 4>for any other woman, especially because he was short, it

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<v Speaker 4>was unrealistic that he was going to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>find a woman that was under his height that was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna fit my shoe damn all right, So he was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of ship out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the I think that he wore them. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>a possibility?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe he wore them. I don't know. I know that

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<v Speaker 4>I went on Nike Idea and Nike I d the

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<v Speaker 4>exact same shoe and shipped to my house because I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted those damn shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>So Oh, so you you memorized the color way enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you had it locked in that you were like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can replicate this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've been looking at that. I was like, I can, Nike.

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<v Speaker 4>I do them real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get six million dollar man these Hirachis, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and give them back to this man.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, tailor two Nikes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the name of this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Tailor too Nikes. Okay, yeah, I think we should take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>with more Socoia Holmes and more. My mama told me, because.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at him, he will smell good.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good, and you sing good and make love good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's the oh at the end. I think that always,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the whole thing. And I just see his face.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's high as ship.

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<v Speaker 3>You had a good cracked face. You see some bad

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<v Speaker 3>crack faces out on the street. James Brown pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>cracked face.

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<v Speaker 1>He went out of here. He went out of here

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<v Speaker 1>exactly looking exactly like we expected him to look. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't say most people can't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think a bunch of you

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<v Speaker 1>crackheads are gonna die ugly, but not James Brown. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a little talking about the possibility that by

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<v Speaker 1>gifting shoes you are you are enabling your partner to

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<v Speaker 1>walk out of your life. Now you've been very clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I think up to this point, although your language in

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<v Speaker 1>the original conspiracy suggested otherwise, that you think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a largely male issue, that it is gifting men

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<v Speaker 1>the gifts rather than women receiving the gifts.

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<v Speaker 4>I do you know why, because it's the phrasing of

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 4>the conspiracy walk out it's something men do. Leave, it's

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 4>something women.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is what I'm here for. It's a strange.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think is a more negative connotation walk

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<v Speaker 3>out or leave?

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<v Speaker 4>I think walkout is a more negative connotation. Do y'all

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<v Speaker 4>know the song leave by Jojo?

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Of course?

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 4>You know that's a that's a girl power song. Like

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 4>that song does a lot for my spirit, gives a

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<v Speaker 4>lot needs to do.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think thirteen year old really inspires you? Hell did.

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:16.399
<v Speaker 9>One no not not jojo Jojo jojo Jo no no

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 9>no no, no brother, there was a there was Joe,

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 9>There was Jojo of Casey and Jojo, and then in

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 9>in around two thousand and three, there was a white

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 9>child named Jojo who had a hit song and has

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 9>since become very thick.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>And and that woman.

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 6>She absolutely has, Yeah, she has gotten very thick, and

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 6>that that hit song has has kept her in our

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 6>general sort of like cultural lexicon for damn near twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, damn, I missed this completely.

0:25:59.200 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 7>Wow.

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it it was a good song. It was

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a hit.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, No, that was definitely hit.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 4>But walk Out implies Dad said he's gonna go get

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 4>milk and never came back. It feels familiar, right, It's

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 4>like you walked out to go do something you just

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 4>never returned. It's like some level of deception there versus

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 4>leeve I left, get out right now.

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 7>It's the end of you and me. It's the whole

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 7>break up song, right.

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I dare say that this feels like a little bit

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 1>of women resetting the standards a bit. I think you're

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>cherry picking quite a bit inside of this, but I

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>respect the way you're of cherry picking. I can't necessarily

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 1>dispute it.

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 3>As a man. I will say I have left you

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 3>have left, straight up left, Yeah, without a trace.

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 4>So you walked out like I thought.

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay, agreed to disagree. I know the kids.

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 4>With without a Trace implies the walk out to me.

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, I don't know.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 3>No, I wasn't even a w I had a smoke bomb.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 3>I was sucking out of there. I reappeared in a

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 3>safe way parking lot, just like so.

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I did a little bit of research on your conspiracy

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>theory that I would love to unpack with you. Some

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of it, I think most of it, I would say,

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>is as gendered as the argument you are making that

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the original sort of conception of this seems to be

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>specifically about men receiving shoes as a gift from women,

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and specifically or more generally in the TikTok era. Right,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>we're in the middle of our our TikTok renaissance, and

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.760
<v Speaker 1>in this TikTok era, it seems to have made a

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>major resurgence as something that is being referred to generally

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>as the shoe theory. Shoe theory is sort of something that, like,

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>if you look up on TikTok, there are a fuck

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>ton of videos of people both talking about their experiences

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of having been walked out on and or walking out

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>on people because of the gifts of shoes that it

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>is extremely popular on TikTok and one of the suggestions

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>from a TikToker that the original origins of this theory

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>are that in Chinese the word for shoes is extremely close.

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>In fact, it looks exactly the same as the word

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for bad luck. Shoes and bad luck and mandarin apparently

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 1>are pretty much identical.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 7>Okay, we're getting somewhere. It sounded real.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, once you throw mandarin in.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes it ancient. It makes it like a

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>more like we undug of artifact, you know what I mean.

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.959
<v Speaker 4>Anything that takes place on continental Asia I trust wholehearted.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do all that I went to

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I went to China one time, and we were riding

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>on trains that had like just holes in the ground

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>where you were supposed to like shit in pee. So

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to go that far.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's yeah, yeah, yeah, China, I.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Lived a life, baby.

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's how you're supposed to ship and pee. Lin Ston,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, did you try it?

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I held it for seventeen hours.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>You did even pee down there? Down there?

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I peed I think I paid.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>We were. This was back when I was a teacher

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and I got chosen as the teacher liaison for our

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>exchange kids. So we went on a trip to China

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and rode a train from Beijing to Shian, which is

0:29:55.720 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>a seventeen hour train ride overnight, and that multiple points

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>woke up to people like in our rooms just staring

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>at me and the other black children because they had

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>never seen black people before.

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 7>You're joking, No, like.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Middle of the night, there's just a man being like, whoa.

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>This feels like what the fuck? And it's unnerving. Shit,

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure, very unnerving.

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so okay, as a black person might be a

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 4>little bit scary.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, you know.

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So some of the other sort of like problems, or

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>at least one of the problems I sort of found

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>in unpacking some of this research is that beyond this

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>suggestion of the correlation between bad luck and shoes in Mandarin,

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the evidence seems to be rooted in

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>personal story. It's a lot of people being like, yeah,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I bought them shoes, ain't seen the nigga since, And

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not founded by any you know, real

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>evidence as much as it's just hurt feelings and bad

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>energy because she got mad, please.

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 3>She got walked out on exactly.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, because I'll be honest, because every single person making

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>these videos always got like weird stringy hair and the

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>tank tops falling off on one side.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Because they got walked It.

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Does feel like their lives fell apart at the sort

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of like end of these relationships. And I don't know

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>if that's their fault or the shoeman, but one way

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>or the other, it seems to be an issue.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 3>We need to get some more shoeman.

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>On here, we do. It would be nice to have

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a shoeman like a man who's like, collected a fair

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>amount of shoes and walked out and to hear his perspective.

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 7>Linksen, has your wife ever bought you shoes?

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>My wife has bought me shoes, and I think about

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>leaving every day, but.

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Look there it is.

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Wait. I have a question, So when when these men

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 3>bought you the shoes that you walked out and did

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 3>you do you feel like you knew like when you

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 3>got the shoes where you about, Oh, I'm about to

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>put these on.

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's a great question.

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 4>When I got the shoes I was like, this is

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 4>a bad omen. This is you know, it's like this

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 4>all right, but you know, thank you. The first one

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 4>was with some hairachis. That was when I was like

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 4>maybe nineteen and then or not, yeah, no, not Harachis.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 7>What are the roach runs?

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 4>That's what the first one was.

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a very generic you know.

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 4>It was like it was a pink roach run did leave,

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 4>and then it was the Harahis also left but sent

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 4>those backs. So I feel like that's kind of a

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 4>balancing act. And now I'm shoot up. I have a

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 4>plethora of shoes, a bounty if you will, and I'm here.

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 7>I'll be staying, so it's good.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm here. Doesn't that's not a good omen for the relationship.

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Either at all. I'm here right, I'm here right.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.959
<v Speaker 4>But Porter doesn't care about these types of things, like

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 4>even what I tell him, like, oh you don't like

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 4>buy shoes? He's like enough anyway.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to play this game. You know, well,

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't be prouder of them. They're one of my issues,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and Bory, i'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>One of my issues with this conspiracy theory and This

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>was a problem for me is that I've been with

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>my wife for almost eight years now, right, and if

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I am buying gifts the way that I am meant

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to buy gifts, We're talking birthdays, We're talking the holiday season,

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>We're talking Valentine's Day, and now Mother's Day. I'm two

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>years into having to do Mother's Day as well. So

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that's four gifts a year, four gifts a year. And

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>if I eliminate shoes from that conversation, I am I'm

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buy the bit free se pops like I'm

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>out of options. That's what I'm saying. So what what

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to do with all of this territory

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of being taken off of the field.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 3>That is a lot, it's a lot of gifts.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Just toss the money thought she was going by the shoes.

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to convince me that buy that giving

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a woman the gift of money?

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 3>No? No, no, this is what tell me give it

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 3>a cash like that.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel barely certain that just handing her an envelope

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>filled with one hundred and eighty six dollars would not

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 1>would not cover it.

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Pimpsy always said it ain't trick if you're married.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 7>There you okay, there you go.

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm kidding. It's tricking too.

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>It's still trigging fly that.

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 4>That seems fine to me personally.

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 7>I don't know. I don't know, Yeah, I don't.

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's gonna fly in the old

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Kerman household.

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 3>But day you good looking out on it?

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's specific on the envelope cover. That's that's all

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 4>it is. You put SPA on it, and it's the

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 4>Mother's Day gifts.

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey, baby girl, I pulled this out of our joint

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>checking account.

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 3>You saw me do it. You thought I was drunk

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 3>at the improv last night.

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you know how we pool money. Well,

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I took some of that money and I'm giving it

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>back to you.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Just take it from the baby college fund.

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 7>And then.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 3>The chances are these days a baby is going to college,

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 3>especially you're kind of raising a neo baby. It's might

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>not need it. That's what.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>That's definitely my hope. Affirmative action is no longer a thing.

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>She's not going to be able to lean on any

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of her her rich black history growing up as a

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>rich girl in l A. Uh. Yeah, I'm rich for

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>right now, two strikes in. I'm doing okay, but no,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I do think that maybe there's no reason for college funds.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And then at that point, yeah, you have the money,

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you can just get envelopes and ship.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Right, and you buy your baby shoes, right, So you

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 4>buy your you buy your shoes, shoes. Nobody's left yet,

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 4>so it might be fine. But have you been bought

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 4>shoes by your wife?

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I have?

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I have, I've bought her shoes. We we seem to

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>be working.

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 3>And like you said, he contemplates it every day.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 4>There be no legitimacy here.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna stick with it. I'm gonna stand behind it,

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 4>but I'm happy told.

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>My experience is not enough to shift you towards a

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>more open mind as it relates to shoes.

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Certainly, Well, here's a big question, Likeston. Previously, because you

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.720
<v Speaker 3>had a life before your wife, you were often trying

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 3>to gallivanti you doing God knows what. Gotta knows what.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Has a woman ever bought you some shoes and you

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 3>did walk out in said shoes?

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I don't think i've ever received before my wife.

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember a person who bought me shoes before

0:37:59.400 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>my wife.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 3>Good.

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 4>You shouldn't be able to remember anybody before your wife

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 4>in the first place.

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>What hey, hey, I remember some.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 3>Of them.

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember pretty good. And uh, but no, I don't

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>think that I was receiving shoes as a gift, and

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I will say that if and that was part of

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>my issue inside of this too, is I think it's

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>really important that we unpack which shoes you got from

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the person, because if they're ass, like, if they're bad shoes,

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>that's enough to make me reconsider a lot of things

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>in this relationship, you know what I mean.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>But then you also got to put them on to

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 3>walk out, so you got to be like, these shoes

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 3>are ass, But then you wear them, you know what

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like, you still gotta wear them if you're

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 3>gonna walk out, well said.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had one of those days where like,

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>you put on an outfit, a gift, whatever, and then

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you go through the day in this ship and you

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>just feel dumber and dumber and less confident and less confident.

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Imagine that, right, Imagine that experience, and then you're like,

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, I'm leaving, I'm done.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 4>You know what, I'm actually a little scared now. Because

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 4>it just down on me that I absolutely have bought

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 4>that man shoes.

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 7>Oh, I bought him.

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Some bands because he specifically mentioned that he wanted some vands,

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 4>some lace up high time folks.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 7>So I bought some damn bands.

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Folks. We got a liar on the podcast. We gotta

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>really we got a goddamn liar here on the podcast. Takoya,

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you've you've been dishonest this whole time?

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Changes everything?

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 4>How dare I? I can't believe. I am so sorry.

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Because what I'm hearing right now is your partner is

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 3>the only person and Langston are the only So it's

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 3>fifty to fifty, right because Garret's never caught shoes and

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 3>walked out. You have Langston has an I have, So

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 3>then it's like it cancels out.

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now we're neutral.

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Me and Eric are not married. So I don't know

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 4>that you could leave in the bands tomorrow.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 3>For all I know, I don't know it could. It's

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 3>still a possibility. You know, it's not how marriage walk

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 3>this wifstail out there.

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:27.959
<v Speaker 7>Don't feel that it does.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 4>I feel that it does.

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is surely just a dating issue for you.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>This is not once it becomes more formally committal. We

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>were good.

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 4>Sign on the dotted line, and all that goes away.

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I think, now we're buying each other's stuff off.

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 4>Now we could buy shoes.

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that my wife bought me shoes before

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>we were married.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 3>She know something, she probably Yeah, yeah, you should ask

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:51.839
<v Speaker 3>her about this afternoon. Yeah.

0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>She's a sneaky snake, that one. So I bet she probably.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I bet she probably was avoiding getting me shoes until

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I I committed more substantially.

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 7>You never know.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's.

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 5>So.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>One of the other things that I tried to look

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>up or thought would be helpful to look up, is

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>how long the average relationship lasts, right, Like, I think

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>weighing into some of that factors into how we interpret

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>this conspiracy theory. And according to Google, the average relationship

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is two years and nine months long.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 3>No, okay, that can't be true.

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the average.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think that's too long. That average. They're saying

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 3>average relationships are two years and nine months.

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it makes sense, right because they're saying that

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 1>seventy percent.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 3>All right, maybe I'm just broken. All right, we'll take it,

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:01.399
<v Speaker 3>We'll walk Like.

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>This sounds like it sounds like somebody's never hit the average.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 3>It's extra nine months. That's the whole baby.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>So what they also say is that seventy percent of

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>relationships and within the first year, seventy percent are done

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>before a year is up.

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 7>That makes sense.

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 4>They take a man to pick out like that at all.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then that math is crazy. If seventy percent

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 3>and within the first year, then the only the other

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 3>thirty If those are relationships, then there's only thirty percent

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 3>relationships that go past two years nine months with then

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the average camp be two years nine months.

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this feels like hustling backwards. Brother, I

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>think I need I need this, I need this now,

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 1>you're right. The math, the math that's man. Yeah, beat

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>up that man's power.

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Math. This is insane. I knew it, I knew right.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, you're perfectly normal.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't send us any fucking emails with the math.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I was thankingle for the other math emails. Don't fucking don't.

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Don't pull up on this one.

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't. We don't need you making my man

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>feel bad because you want to show him exactly why

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't made it.

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 3>As long as we've figured it out. I'm regular as hell.

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 4>I've gotten to that.

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, two years long. I had two for two years,

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 3>but that feels like two years, not months. I don't

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 3>believe it. Two years, two years and a long time,

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 3>two years and a baby average.

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair.

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling it seems.

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>One of the other things that that I wanted to

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>find out is based off of that information, what are

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the most common causes for breakups? And according to the

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 1>list that I found, uh, Hurachi's unfortunately not on the list.

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 1>They're not mentioning Hirachi's vans.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 3>And none of the New Balances have ended some sh.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>New Balance was number twenty six. Uh, not hate but balance.

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 3>But no, I love New Balances, but I feel like

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of guys.

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Were getting They're a polarizing choice. I think we can

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>all agree on that.

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Do you hate New Balances? I don't.

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't hate them, but I think you're gonna get

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a You're gonna get a bold reaction from whoever you

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 1>give them to.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 7>Okay, we got maybe maybe.

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thirty six and when I grew up, we

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>beat up kids with New Balanced shoes.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 3>So you know now you're you're not from Uh, you

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:42.439
<v Speaker 3>know from like DC.

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>No, and maybe that's the problem. Maybe I just wasn't

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>from where they make them at. So we were like nigga,

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that's trash. That said, we were also wearing case twists,

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>so like Chicago's got that, we got to impact.

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 4>I forgot got about case Swiss, sure.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 3>Me too, that was old. They stripes too many.

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of stripes on the case list.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Too many stripes.

0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Case Swiss in the Midwest was an infestation that I

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was. I was bitten by those rats.

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 8>So originals, right, or did you have like crazy No,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 8>I wasn't getting white ones.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You get the white those. Yeah, those were your two options.

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Nothing could be worse than the infestation of phone posits

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:31.959
<v Speaker 4>that's still taking place in DC today.

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 3>On the East coast in general, let it go yeah

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 3>this time.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, phone posits they had, They had a very unfortunate

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>rise in the in the like early well late early,

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>not so like two thousand and eight to twenty like twelve.

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>That were going crazy. And now we got to put

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>those down.

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Babies. We gotta yellow ones come out, remember the bright

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 3>yellow ones.

0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, never any phone positives, never once me either.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>But I was broken. I got a weird ankle. It's

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 3>not good for fact ankles. It's not it's not a

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:08.959
<v Speaker 3>good fact.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't. I knew I couldn't. Whatever I was

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing that wasn't. That wasn't where I

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be, you know what I mean?

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 4>It didn't include phone positive. I'm proud of you for that.

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm happy for Yeah.

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Get I was like, this ain't this ain't mine. This

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.879
<v Speaker 1>ain't my culture. I'm not. I don't get it. I'm

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna stay over here.

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good for you. I'm gonna weave my case switches on.

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Tight up, tight, tie up, real tight.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So so, the leading causes, or at least what they

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>claim is the leading causes for breakups are the top five,

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.839
<v Speaker 1>and this list was twenty six long. But the withdrawing

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>during arguments apparently was the number one cause for relationships dissolving.

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Withdrawing during arguments.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:59.879
<v Speaker 4>Someone say, someone say walking away, walking away, but that's

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 4>or even you know, it's different.

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Not agreeing on big picture decisions was number two. Holding

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>your partner to unrealistic standards was number three. Being afraid

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of being alone and subsequently avoiding conflicts so that you

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>can keep that person was number four, and then finally

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>relying on body language to convey feelings.

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 3>It was number five.

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So no shoes, not one mention of Rebok classics. Sir,

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever the.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 4>Fuck we heard it in the first one they said

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 4>walking away, walking out, it was right there. You gotta

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 4>read between the lines, open your third eye.

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Please, damn damn.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I got what.

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I do think that that if I were to make

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>a choice inside of this for myself, and I recognize

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna change your mind, Sequoya, even for a second,

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I do feel like at the of this, it feels

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 1>like people are blaming shoes for a bunch of failures

0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that are probably already happening inside of their relationships, that

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that it's less about the shoes themselves and more about

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the communication that that probably led to you feeling like

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buy you some custom, Hirachis, even though you

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and I ain't really in the best of ways in

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>our relationship.

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 3>And he scrolls all the way to the cheetah print.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 3>That's like a deep like you don't you don't put

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>the cheeta print the first place that you placed it

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 3>on the Nike ID. That was like, let me try

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:41.400
<v Speaker 3>the tongue. No wait, like he went around with the cheetahprint,

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:42.240
<v Speaker 3>so he really put.

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 7>I appreciate the throw.

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, poor god. I mean, don't cry for him. You

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:56.359
<v Speaker 3>said the shoes. This man is a hero, because I'm not.

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not worried about him.

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>He got he got those shoes framed and put up somewhere.

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 4>He found another short but big footed girl. He can

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 4>reuse the shoes.

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>For a big, all long told girl that he can.

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>He can make feel about him the way you you

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:15.919
<v Speaker 1>never could.

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Losing a Bulevards, I hope that that happened for him.

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Bory, where do you fall in this? Where? Ultimately? Where

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>are you in this conspiracy?

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 3>I wanted all episodes to be I think that I

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 3>think I fall under. This is probably a common coincidence.

0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I think shoes are just a common I want it

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 3>to be real, but I think shoes are a pretty

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.879
<v Speaker 3>common gift to get somebody specifically, like I said, when

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 3>the ship is sinking. So yeah, I think it's because

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>we have as many people who have done it as

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 3>who have not. So it feels like, well, actually, I

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 3>guess we just take the numbers right now, sixty six

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:01.800
<v Speaker 3>have it. So I mean well, Olivia.

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you have you bought shoes for your partner

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and and or a partner in the past, has shoes

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>been a gift that you've led to or gone with rather.

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Or also received you walked out? This is a bad memory,

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 3>all received.

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm stuck. She is married, she has a very

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>lovely husband and uh and she's stuck with them now

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.320
<v Speaker 1>because of those those sweet shoes.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Those sweet.

0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 4>So they might be anchors to you know, they anchored

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 4>the relationship, relationship.

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:51.879
<v Speaker 3>That's a beautiful way.

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I like that shoes. Shoes are a commitment gift. You're

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 1>either in or you're out with shoes. There is no

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>once shoes start crossing the line, you got to make

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a bold choice. And it seems like a lot of

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>brothers are making important choices when they walk out of

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>these women's lives, not just the criminal ones. Men are

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<v Speaker 1>heroes and women have a lot to learn. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we I then we got to the bottom of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all we need to take.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about Yeah. Yeah, you're right, that was a great

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<v Speaker 3>wrap up. I never I mean, of God, beautiful watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Sequoya. Could you tell the people

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<v Speaker 1>where they can find you? And what cool shit you

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<v Speaker 1>have going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you can listen to my podcast Black People Love

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<v Speaker 4>Paramore anywhere you listen to podcasts. It's kind of about

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<v Speaker 4>the underrepresented things that black people like. Their mainstream media

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't necessarily associate with Black people like animate, Tony Hawk,

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<v Speaker 4>Are on the grounde et cetera, et cetera. You can

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<v Speaker 4>find me across social media platforms at Sequoia b homes

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<v Speaker 4>and you can find my podcast at bpop Pod across

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<v Speaker 4>social media platforms as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, so so yeah, go listen to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Go follow Sequoia.

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<v Speaker 3>She's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy. You want to tell the people where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find you?

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<v Speaker 3>Cool that jokes eighty seven on Instagram. I'm going on

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<v Speaker 3>tour the Flyers coming up today or tomorrow. Uh but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the tour, bring David to Plate dot com

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<v Speaker 3>for tickets. Go there and figure it all out. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>coming to your city. I would love to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be great. Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And as always, if you want to follow me, follow

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<v Speaker 1>me at Langston Kerman on Instagram and now threads. I'm threadning, bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you on there. I went over there. I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, your first Your first thread was like, nah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good and you've bounced, Yeah, knocking back. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a bit, but you're like, no, I'm surely

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I really hate it. It's positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody high five each other right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Yet it's boring.

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<v Speaker 1>But it ain't negative, I guess is maybe the best

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<v Speaker 1>way of putting it. It's a lot of just people

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<v Speaker 1>recycling their old material hoping it's gonna make them go

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<v Speaker 1>viral on this new platform. That said, it's not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to make you healthier. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a it's not a sickness the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter is yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But it will.

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<v Speaker 1>It will get there, I have no doubt. Yeah, that said,

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<v Speaker 1>you can follow me at Langston Kerman and uh my

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<v Speaker 1>mama told me we got some dates coming up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still we're locking in the final piece of material

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to allow us to announce this upcoming tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise just send us your own Oh go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, can we say the cities we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to just.

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<v Speaker 1>So they yes, Yeah, let's listen, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I got them right here. We're going to Seattle, Los Angeles, Houston, Austin, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, and Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck yeah, so over August.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Live in any of those cities, you should come. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you live near those cities, bitch, get in the

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<v Speaker 1>car and come on by, as we want to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to see it, and you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>us because because yeah, we're gonna be there and send

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<v Speaker 1>us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories. Tell us

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<v Speaker 1>who walked out of your life at my mama pod

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and that's it. Bye, bitch bye.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, if you hate cops just because of cops, the

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<v Speaker 10>next time you get in trouble, call a crackhead.

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<v Speaker 5>My chips and your babies. All Kala bears are racist.

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<v Speaker 5>The lasting money turny stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell the

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<v Speaker 2>TECs me a hearty chamber