WEBVTT - LIVE in Philadelphia at Temple University 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.680 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:05.120 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.280 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.440 Welcome, Welcome home, y'all, welcome home. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:18.279 We are live from Temple University. We are at the 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.400 Anti Racism Center and we are a little late because 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:23.599 what happened was. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.400 Angela could not put the bread down at the restaurant. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.680 Oh, by Shane, You guys don't believe that. 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:36.400 Apparently someone has been feeding our eating off of misinformation 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.199 and has has suffered from these problems themselves. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:41.880 Yes, that's truly alternative fact. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:46.599 We relate because one of us is directionally challenged and 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.800 we were given directions to the other side of campus. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.479 So Temple, we thank y'all for being very patient with us. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.880 We did follow the address, but we made it. We did, 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.400 we did, and we had an anti racist center and. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.320 It says freedom. Now y'all see that freedom. Now, have 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.639 you guys resolved racism yet here? Okay, we're waiting. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.080 Well, we do want to shout out Timothy Welbeck, who 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.560 is the director of the Anti Racism We. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:12.320 Just get here. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.680 Not only that he came to get us from outside 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.160 lost carried lost, and carried the boxes. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:21.479 We were lost, but now we're found. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.080 But more importantly, we're on the eve of what I 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.720 believe will be a historic event tomorrow. If we do 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.880 our black job, yeah, and if you're not, do the 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:36.520 white job job on behalf of black people on, behalf 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.440 of the country, and we vote, how do y'all feel 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:40.959 about tomorrow? By feeling like. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:42.160 Y'all feel good? 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.040 I don't know that wasn't as enthusiastic. How y'all feeling? 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:47.520 Okay? 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.280 We gotta do something because I feel good and I 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.280 want to be around other people who feel good. And 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.720 if you're watching these polls, one say one thing in 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.960 the five minutes and say something else them so it 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.680 doesn't matter, I don't. All we need to do is 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.760 do what we need to do. And if you arrive 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.640 with five like Andrew always reminds us, and bring people 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.440 to vote. I truly believe by sheer will of us 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.320 that this country. We have been trying to bend this 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.440 country to our will for four hundred years, and we 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.440 know what happens to things that don't bend right. So 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:23.400 tomorrow I believe we will elect Vice President Kamala Harris 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:24.639 to President of. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:25.920 The United States. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:27.600 You're here. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.760 I feel good. How you feel? I feel great? 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.960 Our podcasting godfather is here with us, Chris Morrow. Yes, 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.119 but he's not in the room because guess what, he's 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.600 lost too. So that's what I was just trying to address. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.919 But we have a really jam packed show for y'all 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:49.240 and because we will be Oh hi, Prince L, I 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.359 just did I scare you? 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:58.919 Recentuie Media and known as the Podfather the podcast. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.520 Waving every buddy, Chris. We know you don't like people, 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.239 but wave at them anyway. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.320 Chris, Chris Morrow, Angela Rye and Charlemagne the god Uh 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.119 founded Recent Choice Media, which is the banner in which 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.080 we get to operate under at iHeartRadio. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.160 So are you gonna polize? 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.280 Good to me? 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:23.480 No, you're just dramatic. You're being on display. Be on display. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:23.760 Wow. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.040 We do have a good show though today, some great 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.960 voices that you all will get to hear from. And 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.440 one of the things that I think we love about 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.840 the live shows is that it gives us an opportunity 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.800 to hear directly from you. So we have a roaming mic. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:39.160 Is that right in the room? 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.520 Yes, we do, and we also have guests. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:47.640 We're gonna Welcome to our conversation today from Temple University's 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.160 Black Law Students Association. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:49.920 Sonya K. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:04:01.280 Johnson, Hello, will join us. Hello, Hi, how you doing? 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.240 I'm good. How are you guys going to welcome us? 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.240 We say welcome home y'all at the beginning of our podcast. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.080 You're gon welcome us. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.440 Back, welcome home. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:11.960 Yeah you are, air girl. We gotta have some enthusiasms. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.160 How do you feel about tomorrow? 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.000 I'm definitely a little nervous. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.360 I will say that I hope everybody made their their 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.119 right choices. But you know, it's it's a crucial election. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.880 I think it's important for everybody to get out and vote. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.240 We only got one day left and. 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:25.560 Yeah, yeah, do you feel like we're gonna pull it off? 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:26.640 I think we're gonna pull it off. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.440 I think are you're a president of the National Law 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.960 Schoodents Yeah association, Yeah, very good. Yeah, you're a Temple 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.760 And how many of your members are here with us? 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:36.560 Currently? All of our board is here. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:37.800 They're right there right welcome me. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.479 Board got out to my boss, so fam I love 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.479 to see it, love to see it. So we're also 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.320 at this time, we're gonna we're gonna keep you on 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.760 with us on you, but we're also gonna recognize and 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.360 welcome the executive director and CEO of the National Black 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.920 Justice Coalition, our dear brother, doctor David John and also 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:02.760 the vice president of Philadelphia Black Jason Bowman. And I 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.120 know y'all have seen these videos. Jason has been hit 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.080 these streets hard for out for Harris. He has been 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:13.440 making sure that the community is running these streets and getting. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.440 Into the both voting booths. So welcome to both of you, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:16.640 David and Jason. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.040 Welcome to Philadelphia. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:25.520 Welcome home. Now your name is pronounced David Sean a 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.400 long long time and have known his work a long 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:29.080 long time. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.120 How do you feel about tomorrow? 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:32.560 I'm excited. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.719 The history of black people is that we thrive in 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.720 spite of so as long as white people do they 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.000 white job, we should be all right. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.240 Well do you think they will specifically white women? Do 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.000 you think, because that's where this race hinges a lot. Yeah. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.039 I don't know, Jason, and you're just discussing us. I 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.320 don't trust white people. We have lots of reasons not to. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.680 But what did harden me is that I got off 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.680 the train in Philadelphia a half hour ago a little 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.800 bit longer, traffic was a mess, and there was a 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.960 little white girl who ran from across the parking lotch 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.880 structure to say hello to me. And you know, w 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.120 what a little white girls run at you? You don't 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.400 really know. I'm six y five black men in America. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.120 It could be questionable on a spot of the fact 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.560 that I taught elementary school. But she said to me 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.159 that she loved my sweater, and then after her mom 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.680 came over and said, I really enjoy or appreciate. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:15.920 What you're doing. 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.839 And I thought to myself, four years ago, I don't 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.240 recall white person doing anything similar. Right, And so in 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.920 a world where there have been white women for lots 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.000 of talk around white women who have been modeling their 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.039 work after black women that we know in love like 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.200 Joe Tika Edie and Christina Q and women with black women, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.880 I'm not really seen white women show up in the 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.920 way in which some of them are publicly. And so 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.880 my hope is that they've been talking to their friends 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.960 and their group chats and their book clubs, and that 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:41.880 they do their white job. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.440 You guys could call so the election is tomorrow night. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.800 But if you could call it, how would you call 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.360 it and by how much? Like who's winning and by 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.080 how much and why? 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.760 I would say that Kamala wins by two hundred and 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.920 eighty three electoral votes is going to be close. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:02.840 I do think that Trump is going to try to 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:07.120 make elected. I don't think that Trump is winning this. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:08.640 I don't. I don't foresee that happening. 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.760 And I've been on the ground knocking doors for virtual 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.200 phone banking, having community engagement events, especially with the black 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.080 and brown career community here in the city Philadelphia, and 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.360 I know everybody. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.240 Is fired up about Kamala. Fired up. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.720 I will say that they kind of like waited a 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.400 little too long to activate these communities, but they were 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:27.240 definitely fired up. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:28.760 So I think that she's going to win. But I 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.080 do think that it's going to be close. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.720 Because what's concerning me is a lot of the suburbs 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.840 and a lot of you know, the other people that 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.040 are really like pro Trump. It really amazes me that 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.960 no matter what this man says, he can be disrespectful 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.960 to black women, he could be disrespectful to white women, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.320 he could be disrespectful to immigrants. He can say that 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.800 we're eating our cats and dogs. I mean, this man 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.160 has no bounds, And the other day I saw him 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.960 actually giving oral to a microphone. So I mean, even 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.840 no matter what he does, they are still I'm voting 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.360 for Trump, which is crazy to me. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:57.600 But here we are. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.560 Here we are David Johns calling. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:08.240 I would double tap that on Instagram, Um yeah, or 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.280 I still call it Twitter in spite of the fact 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.680 that that petulant child is trying to wreck it. And 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.200 I think similarly, I worry most about people who have 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.760 bought into the misinformation and disinformation, people who are not 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.160 actually paying attention to what's available, and who simply are 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.520 not being honest. I'd rather have a black man tell 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.280 me that he's a misogynist or doesn't believe that a 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.560 woman can lead, than to tell me that he believes 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.360 that Trump has a better plan for filling the blank. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.840 Then they ain't got no plans for nothing. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.160 And so part of this is I'd just rather let's 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:40.840 be honest about where we are so that we don't 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.560 have to do the guessing or worry about things like 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.520 the Bradley effect and all of these things that are 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:45.559 coming up at this hour. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.360 But you know, in the city Philadelphi, w what I 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.280 noticed when we were doing a lot of barbershop campussing. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.719 And though there are some men black men that were 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.680 in barbershops that you know, are not really sold on 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.400 Kamala because of the misinformation about you know, how many 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.440 black men she left up. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:58.280 For marijuana charges. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.719 I've noticed that a lot a lot of black men 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:04.640 that I've had conversations with, they just don't vote. So 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.560 they say, oh, I'm voting for Trump, but they not 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.760 voting at all. So it ain't even about them saying 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.800 that they're gonna vote for Trump. Because even we just 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.439 saw walka Floka and somebody just outed him on Instagram 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.720 and showed that he has never voted in an election 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.640 at all, but yet he's endorsing Trump. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.240 He probably ain't gonna vote. So stuff like. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.000 That is concerning because I think a lot of people 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.240 have this messaging out there. They're like, oh, I'm voting 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.240 but Trump, but we don't want the couch to win neither. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.640 So if you're watching this at home, it is your 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.760 civic duty to get off the couch and make sure 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.960 that you get out to vote Tomorrow morning. In the 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.480 state of Pennsylvania, the polls open at seven am. They 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.839 don't close until eight pm. Even if you're in line 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.839 at APM, stay in line. Make sure that your vote counts, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.600 because like we've been doing all this, where we've been 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.600 having all these conversations, it cannot go and banging tomorrow. 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.000 Let me okay, let me ask this because you brought 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.240 up barbershops, Jason, so I might at this point be 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.120 more triggered by the barbershop in Tiffany. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:53.880 And that's hard. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.920 I am trying to understand, Like why don't we know 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.400 where else black people go? There has been so much 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.520 like there has been content shot at barbershop after barbershop 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.200 on both sides of the aisle. It's driving me next. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.920 Well, you know why a lot of toxic conversations happened 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.120 in the barbershop, like and that's just the truth. And 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.720 as a queer man in the city of Philadelphia, I 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.320 remember when I used to go to the barbershop. 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.280 I would have to sit through all these conversations. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.720 Today, I want to know what they said to Line. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.120 It's funny I went yesterday and me and my Barbara 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.480 have been having an argument because he actually supports Trump. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.400 So in the conversation, well, I mean like he does 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.520 his job, isn't that said? He does his black job 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.520 and look trying to put somebody to cut my hair. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.240 It's like hard. But I think he's trolling me too. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:41.480 He's trolling me. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.880 I really do think that he's trolling me. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.960 I don't think that he's going for Donald Trump, because 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.160 he does have like you know, black votes and Kamala 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.559 for Harrison, like all the emergingis in the barbershop. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.720 He's just trolling me. 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.600 But I think a lot of those conversations happen in 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.679 the barbershop because that's the safe space where black men 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.280 are able to kind of like be untucked and untamed. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.120 So they're able to go in the barbershop and have 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.520 these conversations that are crazy. I mean, y'all will be 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.720 surprised how many y'all go to black barbershops in this room, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.960 I know, and how many crazy conversations have y'all heard 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:08.640 in barbershops. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.240 And let's listen, let's speak truth to power. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:10.360 This. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.199 I'm not the only place y'all have these crazy conversation 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:13.520 y'all have. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:18.000 Barbershops, though, are probably one of the few places where 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.360 black men, regardless of what their professions are, regardless of 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.880 their social economics, kind of is a convergence of black 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.200 men from various parts of society. And so unless you 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.480 were going, you know, into black business where everybody who 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:38.440 works there is African American, there's probably a few places 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.040 you can get that kind of strata of black folks 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.520 in one place. I think beauty salons are similarly situated. Agree, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.000 Now it takes you know. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:54.640 Paranoid today history right hands out my pockets. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.440 I think what Andrew is saying, though, it raises a 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.160 good point, because regardless of your socio economic status, is 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.160 that is a place where you can get various aspects 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.720 of conversation. I think the point we're saying is that that's 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.160 not the only place. But I'm curious and I want 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.200 to ask you guys this because we've been on tour, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.920 We've done a lot of shows, and when we were 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.200 in Atlanta, it was a similar conversation about somebody who 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.880 had been going to barbershops, and he talked about why 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.600 some black men felt disillusioned. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.400 With the Democratic Party. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.240 One of the things he said is because there is 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.880 a significant number of black men who feel like the 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:38.439 Democratic Party has a specific LGBTQ agenda. Now I don't 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.959 I'm not a fan of taking tools of the oppressor 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.880 and applying them within our community. It breaks my heart 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.480 when I hear that. So without you know, I try 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.720 not to judge either, like I try to be an 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.480 open space. I want to listen more than I speak. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.920 What would you say to men who feel that way? 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.600 You're giving me a look like I say, I'm gonna 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.000 go to Jay first because I don't know what David 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:02.480 about to say. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.120 Here you go first. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.280 So the biggest problem that I have with that rhetoric, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.240 especially that, is that I think that when they look 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.080 at us, I know I have pretty privilege, and I 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.160 recognize my pretty privilege because a lot of times I'm 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.400 in these spaces with black men that are macho macho man, 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.000 so when they see somebody that's black and gay, they 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.800 don't look at us the same. So I think they 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.800 failed to realize that black trans men's issues are black 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.840 men's issues. Black gay men's issues are black men's issues. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.880 So we're not invited to the conversation because they deem 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:37.640 us less than because of our feminine facing, you know, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.320 gestures of attitude or how we carry ourself. It's not 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.959 my fault that there is an ordained light over top 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.640 of me. And when I walk into a space, I 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.640 own it. That's your problem that you have an issue 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.400 with my sexuality being so faced forward, and I think 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.480 that is ultimately the biggest problem because even here in 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.440 the city, I was so thankful that Isaiah Thomas had, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.959 you know, put me as the co chair for Philadelphia 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:57.520 Black Men for. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.599 Harris and sorry like this. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.400 I was so thankful that he actually put me as 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.640 the co chair of Philadelphia Black Men for Harris, and 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.720 as a black queer person, to be in that space 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.640 was great because I had a voice at the table 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.240 with the men that are deciding things that are happening 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.440 for black men. But I also talk to my elective 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.480 and I let them know, like, hey, this is great 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.760 that I'm here. But we also got to include black transmen. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.800 We also got to include other black gay men in 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.120 the conversation too and invite them because a lot of 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:24.520 times we don't feel welcome. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:24.720 To the space. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.440 Yeah, let me first ask all of us to give 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:29.600 Jason around of applause. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.440 It's not just Jason, but there are. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.920 Members of our community who identify as queer, transitgender expansive, 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.880 who have always been doing this work who often don't 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.520 get platforms like this, and so I want us to 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.440 celebrate and acknowledge them. I would, if I'm being thoughtful, 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.120 step back and say, first, let's celebrate with Fatti lu 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.080 Hammer taught us, which is that none of us are 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.880 freeing lesson until all of us are free. The second 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.560 thing I would say is that we collectively should engage 0:14:54.600 --> 0:15:00.560 in white supremacy rehab. My queerness is African, My queerness 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.760 is African. That you believe that me being a same 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.360 gener loving person, because God made me perfectly in his image, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.760 that you believe that this is my desire to be 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.480 closer to whiteness or to do anything that is anti 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:17.200 African is a lie from white supremacy hell. And we 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.440 can debate about it, we can go biblically, we can 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.440 talk ancestrally. But what I know is that this didn't 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.880 just happen, and you can't get to freedom without me. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:30.320 It is because of black queer, transmigender expanse, of people 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.640 like Biard Rustin, who built the stage that many of. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:34.520 Our leaders stood on. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.880 Doctor Marler, the King Junior included, it's because of folks 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.840 like Marsha paying no mind Johnson that we have things 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.640 like Pride Month. If it weren't for us living in 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.960 the trenches on the front lines, we wouldn't be at 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.360 this moment, on this precipice of having a black woman 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.040 who has been able to complete the race that Shirley 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:52.920 Hilsm and so many others have started. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.640 And so I would offer. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.800 A besiechment for them to go to therapy to deal 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.920 with their own shit, to engage in white premiacy rehab 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.320 so that we can have a meaningful conversation about how 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.440 we as a community get over together. I would then 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.480 highlight data, because sometimes we got to bring data to 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.480 these conversations. Are people to be moved? So NBJ see 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.440 the organization that I have the pleasure of quarterbacking partner 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.960 with five other national organizations that have queer leaders. And 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.400 you'll hear me using three different terms, queer, trans and 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.400 gender expansive. I use gender expansive in the place of 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.160 non binary and non conforming because those terms reinforce the 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.040 very binary we're trying to get away from. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.880 But we partner with HRC. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.320 GLAD Family Equality Glisten and wasn't GLAD, it was Glisten, 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.720 and NCLR, the National Center for Lesbian right to collect 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.120 data to hear about what black people have to say 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.960 about these issues, because often it's our white colleagues, and 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.720 they're white noise that have us talking about things that 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:51.800 don't really affect us. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:53.040 Two top lines. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.040 One is when we think about what policy issues matter 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.040 most to black people, when we account for the divisions 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.840 that people suggest that exists because of our sexual identity, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.520 there's no daylight between the things that matter most to us. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.919 If I ask you all to imagine, like, what's the 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.639 top three policy issues that matter to you? Hold that 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.240 list in your head. For the people we survey, Number 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:18.359 one healthcare. Number two, the cost of every goddamn thing 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:23.639 is too high, health care, college, gas whatever. Number three 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.879 safety justice, anti blackness, to get the state to stop 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:28.560 killing us. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.160 Those three things. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.680 Matter to people regardless of their sexual orientation, gender identity, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.520 or expression. But if you listen to the white noise, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:40.280 the white media, it's our sexuality that matters most. 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:41.640 The second thing that we learn from. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.200 Our data is that black people believe that we should 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:46.160 be doing more so that all of us can get free. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.600 And so if we lean into celebrating the beautiful diversity 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.480 that has always existed in our community, again turning down 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.119 this white noise and engaging in white supremacy rehab. I 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.040 think that we can come on the other side of 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.160 some of these seemingly intractable discussions. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:00.879 I want it for a moment. 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.639 Just remind you all, we do have a floating mic, 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.320 So if you have a question, raise your hand. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.440 Someone will walk the mic over to you. Okay, yes, sir. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.120 And while that mic is making its way to him, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.360 I think I lost my mic. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:11.800 Holder. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.560 Uh, we will get that to you in just a moment. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.400 But until we do, sonya, I want to come back 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.800 to you for a moment. The election, we didn't even finish. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.320 The first question is how our panels go sometimes with 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.280 can you predict? David was like, I'm not gonna, I'm 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.120 gonna I'm gonna double click that on Instagram. 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.040 But he's not on Instagram. He's on this panel. But 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:29.760 that's fine. 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.359 So I want to just ask you what the role 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.040 of lawyers will be in this election. What the lawyer, 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:42.280 the role of young lawyers, black law students is in challenging. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:42.719 Whatever comes up. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:45.080 We know that there are folks who are eager to 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.960 dismantle this democracy on the other side, questioning the legitimacy 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.520 of these election results before they even come out. What 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.199 role should young black lawyers be playing in this election 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.280 and it saving demis. 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.320 I believe, for especially from my organization personally, that we 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.720 need to be informing our members students. A lot of 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.919 us are political science and criminal justice majors, and I 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.960 feel like we have that knowledge to be able to 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:14.159 educate the youth as well as educating are sorry as 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:18.399 well as educating our the students that are in the 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:23.200 area were located because I think sorry, I think that. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.760 Sorry, Just take a step back and just think about 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.360 your really important role as the president of Boston here. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.320 I'm sure you all are reached out to by election 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.240 protection efforts and that kind of thing. 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:40.280 What role do you all see see? What role do 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:40.960 you see. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.000 Playing and making sure that democracy is preserved, which is 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.760 what we've always done, is black attorneys in this space. 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.920 I believe it really is just educating as well as 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.520 informing people are members. I know I've spoken to a 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.200 lot of people who are unsure of like where they 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.639 stand in the election, and I feel like emphasizing on 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.199 getting our research just simple, just as simple as doing 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:05.320 something as just searching up their policies and just talking 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.399 with I know social media is another place where it 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.560 can have a lot of misinformation, but I also think 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.240 it can also be a crucial place to look for 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.639 information because I think there are a lot of people 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:18.520 that are showing that Trump isn't a good person. He 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:23.520 has racist ideologies, He's disrespecting a lot of people. And 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.600 I think that it's our job, especially in our organization, 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.120 to just be educating our members, our students, are anybody, 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:32.080 we can really our families, because I know there's a 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.280 lot of families where people don't see eye to eye, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.960 especially when it comes to elections. And I think that's 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.680 just something that we need to It's a conversation that 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.960 we need to have and that we need to continue having. 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:50.960 And yeah, it's perfect. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:20:59.680 Say your name and where you're from. 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:00.800 Please Hi. 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:07.000 My name is Sauna Alone. I'm a junior here at 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:15.240 Temple University. I am a member of Alpha Phi Alpha 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.879 for Tunity in Cobawa. 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:28.520 And I'm and I'm throwing up gang signs in here. 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:36.120 Y'all going on talking about heard of people, I say, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:42.320 color signs panel they're in your carry on. 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:50.679 But all that succeests as a African American man that 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:58.240 have a disability. Why is it I here talked about 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:04.600 every issue in the back community, but we don't talk 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:14.119 about back disable issue in the African American community. I 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:19.560 was told by a white teacher that college was not 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:26.280 for me. Here I am in college with a high GPA. 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:36.080 But but but where I don't understand. We talked about 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:42.760 the black boat, the black woman boat, the bad lgbtq abo, 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:49.320 what is amazing? We talked about all that, but we 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:56.200 don't talk about the black disable vote. And people like 0:22:56.480 --> 0:23:01.960 myself of tire of being cheated ass she'd get past 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:09.280 citizens in America. So if y'all could just talk about 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:15.200 what we need to do as a community to uplift 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:20.919 the back disablable as well, so that more people like 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:26.840 myself can be a success story. They give for Carmen 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:31.200 and yes, I love that past. 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.240 Can I say something to that? Can I say something 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:38.920 to that? Can I respond to that? Thank you? I'm 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:39.760 trying to get emotional. 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:43.359 I'm talking because that's the reason why that this election 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.960 is so important to me. My mother was born with 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.840 spina bifita, which is a neurological disorder that affects the spine. 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.440 She was not supposed to live past the age of fourteen. 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.680 She went to Wider Memorial School, which is right behind 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:57.280 Girls High, and I watched my mother learn how to walk. 0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.119 They told my mom that she was not going to 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.080 have any children. I was her miracle baby. After me, 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:06.000 she miscarried. After the miscarriage, she had my little brother, 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:11.360 and I watched her as a disabled American fight and 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:15.439 never give up and constantly make space to educate her 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.359 two black sons, and she adopted four girls because she 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.200 never had a girl that I was probably the closest 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:21.640 one to it. 0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:24.960 But when you speak about well, I probably was. I 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:25.480 probably was. 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.159 But like hearing him say that, it's conversations that I 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:29.639 have with my mom, So it like kind of like 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.959 hit me some my core because like that's why, like 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.920 I do a lot of this work and the reason why, 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.280 you know, Magnavine, the disability of voices and magnifying black 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.119 career people was so important to me because I watched 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.480 my mom as a single mother raising us. I was 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.800 a latch key kid, you know. I was afforded the 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.679 opportunity to be a part of the segregation program, which 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.840 busts us from the projects to the Northeast area, Philadelphia, 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.560 so we can have a quality education. You know, she 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.679 sacrificed so many things for me, So like, thank you 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.080 for that, because you're absolutely right, we have to do that. 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.040 Are at making sure that we also speak to our 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.320 disabled community as well? 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.520 If I could jump in these double Dutch robes to 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.520 add two points. One is that words matter. And in 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.960 my previous intervention, I use the phrase my queerness is African. 0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:18.760 Too often we conflate queerness to signal sexual minority status 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:23.119 or lgbtqia plus or ligabigg tiggers at lgbtquad, whatever, But 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.080 queerness refers to people who are not a position of 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.920 pejorative privilege or power. So most of us in this 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.160 room are queer people. Women in a society that says 0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:33.560 men have. 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:34.880 Privilege, are queer. 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.680 People with disabilities in a space where we don't acknowledge 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:41.640 people with our disabilities, Our privileged are queer. And it's 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.639 often left to those of us who are queer to 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.840 do exactly what you did, which is to lift up 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.639 the consequences of white supremacy and what happens when we 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.200 don't think about intersectionality. 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.560 And so just to put a pin in this. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.520 I often remind folks that black people, because of how 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.600 white supremacy work, are usually born with the disability, and 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.920 if we live long enough, we're going to grow into 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.679 having one right. And so this is why we need 0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.680 to be having conversations at center all of the important 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:10.040 parts of who make us whole. Now, my frustration becomes 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.920 this in a practical do party system, Andrew and I 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.560 used to have some of these debates about scarcity, right, 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.560 which is often it's the responsibility of the. 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.639 Democratic Party or Democratic. 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:23.320 Representatives to speak to everybody because they're creating a large tent. 0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.840 And in this moment, we don't have people who have 0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.399 the same energy for whatever the policy issue that is 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.640 important to them for the people on the other side 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:32.840 of the aisle. And so in this moment, while there 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:38.240 are still some people who are debating, are thinking about 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.760 who they're going to vote with, my hope is that 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.080 people here my heart when I say voting ways that 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.520 will allow us to be more strategic and getting closer 0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.800 to freedom. Right on the other side of this election 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.800 being decided, we can go back and have the policy 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.879 debates about what changes need to be made legislatively at 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.679 every level of government. To address the unique issues that 0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.119 we have. But what I know is that my black 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.920 queer SAMs and her loving self cannot fathom surviving four 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:08.320 years under a fascist, white supremacist regime. And I hope 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.560 that that is clear isn't lost in us highlighting the 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:13.840 need to do more with regard to intersectionality. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.800 I love your question, So I want to speak specifically 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.240 to the disability community because I think that's such a 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.760 huge issue that your one hundred percent right gets overlooked 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.960 so specifically to being black and disabled. I would echo 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.080 what David said that there has to be a policy 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.480 change at every level. And this was something that I 0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.439 think many of us in our different professional backgrounds have 0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.520 been confronted with and talked about. There was a social 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.800 experiment that made its way around the socials where there 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.160 was a white man who was blind and a black 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.440 man who was blind, and they were walking on the 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.720 streets of Florida and reached out for help, and every 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.800 time somebody was willing to hold that white man's hand, 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.720 when most people were coiled at the black man extending 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:01.919 his hand. And so I think in terms of just 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.400 the disability community as a whole, for sure, that's something 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.280 that needs to be talked about, but we cannot talk 0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.480 about that without highlighting the wealth gap in this country 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:12.600 and who gets resources. It was much like this during 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.040 the Great Depression. We all were destitute, but there were 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.439 white families who were prioritized in a way, and I 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.240 imagine it's the same way for the black and disabled community. 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.520 I commend you for raising the issue, and I would 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:28.560 love we'll make sure our research and producer and everything 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.400 person lol follows up with you, because I would love 0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.960 to hear from you three issues that you would like 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.959 to see raised on a national level, and we can 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.440 certainly commit to talking about those on our platform. 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.480 I would also say you are the best representative. I 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.720 was compelled by everything you had to say. I felt 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:56.720 your story. I applaud you not for having any sort 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.480 of disability, but I applaud you for being willing to 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.080 talk about out what's important to you. And a lot 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.520 of people shrink from that opportunity when they have it, 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.360 and you didn't shrink at all. So one, you've got 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:10.720 to continue to be on the front lines. The other 0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.040 thought that I wanted to complete with something David said 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.760 around the scarcity debate that we often have and I 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.240 answered the gentleman in Atlanta the same way when he 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:24.280 bought up. We don't see heterosexual black men as a 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.320 priority in the Democratic Party unless you're gay. And my 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.360 point to him was, your beef isn't with black, queer 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:36.320 gay people. Your beef isn't with black women. Your beef 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.400 is it with any of those communities. That's what white 0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.840 supremacy has done. It is he pitted us against each 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:47.440 other through again a mentality of scarcity, that there's only 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:50.560 so little and that we all have to hold as 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.760 much of that little that exists on the table, when 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:59.200 in fact, there are almost unlimited resources. If Donald Trump 0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.880 can give the top one of Americans a tax break 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:07.640 that lands this country in its largest national debt in history, 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.960 then why are we fighting about whether or not we 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.800 can get resources to a community of disability to make 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.240 sure that the laws and statutes that exist on the 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.440 books are enforced at every level of government, from school 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.440 boards to municipalities, to counties to states, all the way 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.560 up to the federal level. Because in the grand scheme 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:32.960 of it, these would be these are pennies and truth 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.400 when you think about the scale of the federal government. 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.720 So I guess if there was a point that we 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.360 might take away on, it is that we all ought 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.400 to be fighting for what we need, not for what 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.600 they say is our little piece of the pie for 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:53.600 us to negotiate over, because that's a distraction. The pie 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.680 is all the pie, not the little piece that you 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.920 have aggregated or separated or told us that we're supposed 0:30:59.960 --> 0:31:02.680 to fight over. But they keep us, they keep us 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.280 in the cycle of fighting each other over crumbs when 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.560 the pie is much bigger than that, and the pie 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.840 is all of ours. And I just I hope we 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:16.440 shrink from competition between one another on whether your life 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.360 ought to be protected as an LGBT person, whether laws 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.560 ought to exist for black women that they should be 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.320 able to work in a workplace and while doing the 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.880 same job that a man does as well, if not better, 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.800 that you're still being paid thirty cents on a dollar 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.480 in comparison. That's that's not right for any of us. 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.560 And I think that's kind of, at least for me, 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.600 where I feel like we ought to be turning our advocacy. 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.560 Jason will offer you, Oh sorry, no, I's said him downey. 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.440 Jason will offer you close The remarks we're gonna wrap 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.280 this panel, we're gonna get to an audience question and 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:47.880 bring on Earnest. 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.920 I just want to kind of like go back to 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.000 something Tiffany said really quickly and closing. When people always 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.200 say like, oh, they're pushing this LGBTQ agenda down my throat. Oh, 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.960 it's an agenda, it's an agenda. It's not an agenda. 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:04.200 We are asking for equality, that is, that is the we, 0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:06.840 that is the agenda. But the way they make it 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.800 sound is almost as if like, oh, y'all keep trying 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.520 to push this gayness down my throat, like not realizing 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.720 that we're just fighting for equality, like we are fighting 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.360 for equal rights, We're fighting for representation. To me, the 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.800 fight for equality, the civil rights movment, it's like it's 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:20.240 our rights. 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:21.080 We need rights. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.960 It's period and not just period. 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.480 Let's no, we're not just period, not experience. Let's just 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:26.680 do it. 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.200 Let's do it a different which is that children don't 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.080 ask to be born exactly right. One of my spirit 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.440 animals a god, not an animal person a sehiliar. The 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:40.440 sociologist said the following, I've never in my life met 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.560 a child, in particular a black child who is not 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.800 a genius, and there's no secret to how we support them. 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.520 We first acknowledge them as human and we second support 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:54.440 them with love. And the reality is that children, whether 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:59.959 they are marked by race, ethnicity, or sexual identity, often 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.640 don't ask to be born and then don't consent to 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.520 the politics that impact their lives in a measurable ways. 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.360 And today we still are not talking enough about the 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.520 fact that the suicide rate for black youth has doubled 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.920 over the last two decades. That data study I mentioned 0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.360 the most compelling statistic to move black people was around 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.640 the suicidality for black. 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.920 Youth thirteen through twenty one. So many of them. 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.640 Are contemplating suicide because big ass bullies are passing laws 0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:33.080 that are encouraging. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.880 Them to commit genocide. 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:35.959 If you live in a space where you can't have 0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.320 access to life saving at affirming care, where your parents 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.800 can go to jail for loving on you, where your 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.440 teachers can be arrested for teaching you that you are normal, 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.360 that you are not a bastardization that you deserve not 0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.120 just to live, but to thrive. If those conditions are legislated, 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:54.760 the result is genocide. 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.680 And so if in this moment. You don't think that 0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:58.480 I should. 0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.000 Have the ability to have my nails as they always 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.760 are done, or the ability to live as freely as 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.640 our ancestors dreamed of our ability to do. I pray 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.840 that you are compelled by children who didn't consent to 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.520 any of this bullshit, who don't have the ability to vote, 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:16.719 do it for them. 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:22.200 Thank you so much, Jason Bowman, David john Saya, Madam President, 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:26.200 we appreciate you. We're gonna take a quick audience question 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.239 if you have your hands that will take it. Yes, 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.560 we see you. Let's pass that. Mike Lolo, say your 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.200 name and where you're from. And while you are asking 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:38.000 your question, we are going to bring up history walking history. 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.319 The speaker of the Pennsylvania House Representatives, our good friend, 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.560 Joanna McClinton, is here with us today. 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:48.280 Yes, sir, oh Minnie, my name is Shan Nuby, Jr. 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.000 I'm the vice president of Black Lawsuits Association here at Temple. 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.480 My question was relating back to what y'all just talked 0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:57.680 about about how the disenfranchisement of the African Americans it 0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.520 comes to Kama Harris's plan towards black men, and how 0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.080 can she expand on that outside of like talking about 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.480 the issues with healthcare for us and only in those 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.560 spaces you guys touched a little bit earlier, how the 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.120 barbershops are place for us to decompress, and also things 0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:11.640 in which where they can allow us to get out 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.120 loans to open up more businesses, because as you just 0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.600 talked about, sir, the pie is not in our favor. 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.120 So I was wondering how you guys think she can 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:18.960 expand on that plan. 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.680 Well, one, thank you for the question, but the plan 0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.600 is actually really expansive. And I don't know if any 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.360 of you all have another recollection, but I don't recall 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.440 ever a major party candidate ever presenting an agenda for 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:39.720 black men in the history of presidential races in the country. 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.120 The fact that Kamala Harris was bold enough to step 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.520 up there and say I have an agenda. She didn't 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.560 say for black women. She said I have an agenda 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.680 very specific specifically and particularly for black men. When Obama 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.960 always asked what his agenda was for the black community, 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.960 he said, my agenda for the black community is my 0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:01.960 agenda for the American people. And some people cringe to 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.080 others were critical, But I don't think any of us 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.600 would argue that we didn't benefit from having expanded healthcare, 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.319 being able to see a doctor, many of us for 0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.919 the first, you know, for the first time in our adulthood. 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.080 But the truth is is the reason why I think 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.360 we need agendas that are particular to our needs is 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.680 that black folks, particularly black men, are always at the 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:25.120 worst end of almost every single. 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.480 Statistic that we measure. 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.400 So unless the entire society is going to be impacted 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.959 at the same rate that we are, if their health 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.759 data reflects the same statistics that ours do, if their 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:40.000 education data, if their access to capital reflected that, that'd 0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.280 be one thing, but it doesn't. 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:42.440 Ours is greater. 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.160 It is almost almost more significant and has detrimental impacts 0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:48.759 on ours in our livelihoods. Which is why I think 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:54.160 her agenda really, really, it really pierced to me as 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.520 a study of history and also as a study an 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.160 example of courage. What she's offering as a relation to 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.200 small business, not only loans, but loans to them be 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.160 forgiven as grants for folks to start new businesses a 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.959 big deal. The credit that she's willing to offer for 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.320 families who have children who are between the ages of 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.120 zero and five who can't afford the cost of high 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.160 quality childcare. The fact that we're getting in a larger 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.640 inducement and added tax incentive in order to make sure 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.239 that our kids are ready by the age of five 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.759 when they enter kindergarten to read and excel just like 0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:33.320 all other kids are. Her emphasis on health and men's 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.640 health is a particular import. Our life lines and life 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:41.680 spans are shorter because of the health outcomes and health implications. 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:43.879 So what I loved about it is that I thought 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.319 it was broad. Where we're really going to have to 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.840 come together is on helping her to get it done. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.360 You can imagine if there's never been a black agenda 0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:55.239 and a black male agenda before in this country, that 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.840 the US Senate, which is ninety eight out of one 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:03.840 hundred or nine ninety eight out one hundred white or 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.120 other than African American, only two blacks in the US Senate. 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:12.000 Only counting two, I'm sorry there is a third. He's 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:12.920 on the Republican. 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.080 Yeah, David is going to be a heckler. 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:22.760 David is deleting any self haters from the caucus. But 0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.120 but that's where I think we're going to have to 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.600 really call our power together. Is that I can already 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.720 since once we get past this moment of unity where 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.279 Republicans and Democrats and white women and black women are 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.719 supporting Kamala Harris, that the next story that will be 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.719 written after she wins is a few months saying if 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.759 they give her that long, this isn't the president that 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:46.120 we thought we were getting. She's too liberal, she's not 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.240 working with Republicans, and it'll fall back to that same 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:53.239 refrain that I think politics always falls back into, and 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.400 we're going to have to have her back so that 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.080 she can deliver on our promises. That's my real fear. 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.440 It's not that we don't have an agenda, is that 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.680 that it'll fall flat in less way able to organize 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:03.800 and insisted it happened. 0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.640 So before we go to Madame Speaker, I just want 0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.000 to acknowledge two of our family members in the audience. 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.480 Quentin James has joined us, one of our partners from 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.360 Vote to Live, who will be joining the panel in 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.560 a little bit. And I also want to recognize I 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.440 didn't say right now, Lolo relaxed, she come around. I'm 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.279 just acknowledging our family. I said she came around and 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:35.759 not yet, we know we Madam Speaker is going to 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.960 have the floor. But also to me, a Booker, I 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:43.080 want you to stand yeah, sand sand Sand, y'all. I 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:45.759 want you to know I have known this sister. She's 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.600 a brilliant strategist. I've known her since she worked in 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.239 Hillary Clinton's office on the Senate side and twenty years 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.240 ago almost and I've. 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:55.840 Known since she was a student in college. 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.799 Oh oh, so here we go, see, here we go, 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:00.600 here we go? 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:01.960 Okay, well what else? Keep going? 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.160 She's bad and the room. The chief of staff for 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:12.040 uh US Senator Corey Booker out of New Jersey. 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:19.000 Related that's not her cousin. They did not violate rules, 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:21.600 but I wanted to. I wanted to shout her out. 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:22.520 You trumped me. 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:24.879 No pun intended on how long you've known her. 0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.759 But I want you all to know that Tamiya is 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.000 not just a fan of the show and a support 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:32.560 of the show, but of all of us. And wanted 0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.319 to make sure that we had some amazing guests on 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.480 the show tonight, and that started with Madam Speaker. So 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.080 I want to come to you. The question that they 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.279 did not answer on the last panel was what do 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.800 you think they're the the who's going to win tomorrow? 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.759 And what are the numbers like electoral college votes? Who's 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:50.719 winning in how many? 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.440 Well, good evening, but even welcome to Philly. 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.160 I'm so glad to see you all, and thank you 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.720 to doctor val for coordinating this. You are so glad 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.480 to be at the Center for Anti Racism. My first visit. 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.560 I come to North a lot, but you know, I 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.200 haven't been here, so I'm glad to be here this evening. 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.520 Proud of the work that Temple is doing, a long 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:15.239 my doing in the law. Classmate Tim year Over, thank 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:16.080 you for your work. 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.160 Here, Professor Tim, thank you for your work. Who's winning? 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:23.600 Kamala d Harris is winning? What are the electoral college numbers? 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:28.319 The winning number? You gotta put the map up. I mean, 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.360 I wasn't ready for that, Angela. You came in with 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.480 a heavy hitter. I need to see the map. But 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:33.359 you know, so. 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.719 Seventy anything higher, she's gonna win. 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.080 She's going to have at least two seventy. 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.400 Okay, and she win in Pennsylvania. 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.920 She's winning Pennsylvania right now. This is where the nation started, 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.880 and we're sticking on the right side of history. 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:49.640 All right, I love it. 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.720 Does anybody else suspect that while the polling loose closes, 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.040 anybody think that this may also be a blow away 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.560 on behalf of Kamala Harris, you think there may be 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.920 some a blowout, A blow away blowout, however you want. 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.000 To phrase it. I said a blow away. 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:09.399 Love, that's what you're doing with your hands to tip, 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.200 just so you know, next time we do a panel, 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.520 you're sitting to the right side of Andrew because I'm 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:14.239 ducking like. 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:20.320 I'm a sneaky suspicion that she's gonna blow past two seventy. 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:21.000 I agree. 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:22.799 I think there are people here who are not being 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.480 caught in the polling. I think there are states that 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:29.120 we are counting out. Uh And I think that there's 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.480 a lot of secret voting that's happening where people are 0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:35.160 not necessarily disclosing who they're supporting. And when the final 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.520 analysis is done, I think we're gonna pick up states 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.280 that we didn't think we're gonna be in our column. 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.040 You know, I want to say something about that. 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:45.360 I'm sorry one because I'd never like to make us invisible. 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.160 There is another sister that I should have recognized, and 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:49.719 we ran in here we had to go to the 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.759 bathroom wash our hands. It was doctor Valerie Harrison and 0:42:53.800 --> 0:43:01.360 I talked about it to me, Joanna, thank you for 0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.040 giving me my life together. We would not be here 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.359 today if it wasn't for you, Doctor Harrison. And Tim 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.360 got us together as well. He was directing me and 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:14.200 Tiff down the hallway like we were. We didn't stan him, 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.200 do I understand? But this way with the people so 0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:19.640 they know, thank you, you appreciate it. 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.040 Thank you for your work. 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.680 I want to say something about this idea about voting 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:28.480 in secret. What year are we in that women got 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.080 a hide from their husbands, not us, but the other 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.440 women got a hide from their husbands who they're voting for. 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.319 The vote is secret, Yeah, it's secret, but I don't 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:38.520 need my husband's permission to. 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.160 Or secret. There's a difference sacred and secret. 0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.759 The dynamic that exists that you and it showed to me. 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:53.960 It highlights the clear divide between us and them sometimes 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.920 if you feel like you can't stand in your own conviction, 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.920 in your own home, and to me, there's an un 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.720 are lying envy in that that I want the same 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.600 power that my white man husband has, and so to 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.640 get that power. I will preserve his power in hopes 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.480 that one day he might extend it to me. That 0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.120 is the clear divide between us and them. 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.399 The campaign was wrong to run the ads they did, 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:20.360 but I don't want you. 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:26.080 To start defending. 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:26.320 The last ads. 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:30.879 But essentially Julia Roberts is narrating this experience for two 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.600 white women go into the polling place with their husbands 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:35.480 to cast their ballots. 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:36.880 It's like away each other. 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.520 And have this sort of wink nod experience where like, girl, 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:45.160 you know, yeah, I know. They then uh, as they're leaving, 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.480 you know, we did the right thing. We voted for Trump. 0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:50.920 And then there's an exchange that basically shows that they 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:55.879 voted for Harris, and the right wing went mayhem over 0:44:55.880 --> 0:45:00.000 the last seventy two hours over these adswe the preacher 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.279 white men particularly, but there was also an ad that 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.680 they ran with two white men going in to vote. 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.799 They have a similar exchange and both of them vote 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:14.279 for Harris. However, there was no blowback about white men 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.440 in secret deciding they look at each other with a 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.360 weekend and the nod that yeah, we couldn't go with 0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.399 that dude. We went with Harris. But in the case 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.280 of the women. There was intense blowback across Fox News 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:26.920 and every other right wing outlet. 0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.719 How dare got us to be Handmaid's tail so bad? 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:34.640 Well, I think we don't recognize how culturally to your points, 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:38.560 if any people are, people are culturally different. And depending 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.360 on the type of community that you live in, I 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.320 always say, you know, I live in West Philly is 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.720 a big blue bastion of Democrats. There's some Republican neighbors, 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.440 but I don't see them with maga hats on, and 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.440 the same way I don't see my neighbors with maga 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:54.439 hats on. It's the same way in other communities. People 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.000 don't have on a Harris Wall shirt tonight and a 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.319 big button that says voting is my black job. But 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.319 that's okay because when you go into the ballot it 0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:06.400 is both sacred and secret. And if it's both sacred 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.080 and secret, you shouldn't have to advertise, because if you 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.399 are going to run into something at work or at 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.319 your place of worship, you'd rather avoid. So you're not 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.120 going to tell everybody this is where I am and 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.399 this is where I line, because then the questions start 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:19.160 or what about this? 0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:19.960 What about this? 0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.600 Are you saying, you agree with everything that this person 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.960 and this candidate is for. Because the same way somebody 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.480 told me I was at an event yesterday, I'm for you, 0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:29.520 but I'm voting for the other guy. I said, well, 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.120 you know he's not for you. He's not going to 0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.000 tell your union that you should go on strike. He's 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.640 not going to tell megacorporation acts that they should pay 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.000 you fairly. He's never going to stand in the gap 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:41.759 for you. So how could you not be with her? 0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.360 And he says something to be about an open primary. 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.040 I said, you're sure, that's it. You're sure you're not 0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.920 voting for her because of a primary short that's the issue, 0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:53.319 that's the reason. So it's different depending on where you're 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.799 from and where you live. And I was on an 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.640 interview last week with a group of women from all 0:46:57.680 --> 0:47:01.200 across the nation, Oregon, Michigan again, their leaders in their 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.920 state houses and Senate, and we all talked about how 0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:07.520 there are some women who do not talk openly about 0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:10.960 being tired of the forty fifth president is nonsense, and 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:13.000 being tired of it means that they're not voting for 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.680 him again, even if they did in sixteen and twenty. 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:18.200 I want to go too. 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:20.759 You can ask your question, but I want to bring 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.640 up Quentin James, who's going to join us now from 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.759 Vote to Live. Also he's the founder and president of 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:30.040 Collective Pact. Give our brother a round of applun the home. 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.279 And we also have gabriel Gabrielle Reid, who is the 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:41.560 president of Black Girls Vote here at Temple University joining 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:41.960 the panel. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:46.520 T if you were about to ask a question, okay, 0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:48.480 I'll tell you later. 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:56.960 Anyway, I right, last, all right, we're gonna get in 0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:00.000 trouble with Andrews. Can we say? We can't say? 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.000 I phone was ringing it it read n DeSantis. 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:05.920 Give me the phone there, but let me call real 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.640 quick with me called back on. 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:13.160 The party anyway, Rondo Sanders was calling anyway, I have 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:14.000 a question for you. 0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.160 But that's a distracting thing you show me. Rond de 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.480 Santa's calling it. But anyway, I have a question that 0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:19.399 you should focus group. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:25.000 I agree, Okay, the young man who asked about Vice 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.480 President Harris's plan, I think this is a great question 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.120 for you, Madam speaker, because what I was struck by 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:34.600 when I heard your question is something that I think 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:39.200 we assume a lot of people just understand how government works. 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:41.680 I assume you understand, but a lot of people out 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:46.520 there don't. And some people think that President elect Harris 0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:51.760 is also State Rep. Harris is also city councilwoman Harris 0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:55.760 is also school board president Harris and so I would 0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:59.279 love for you to punctuate the role of state and 0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.480 local government as it relates to getting the president's agenda done. 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:07.040 While we discussed calling Royan DeSantis back on the side, well. 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.399 While y'all call him, we're going to have this conversation. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:14.440 And many times, even when people decide that they don't vote, 0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.560 not interested in voting, it's because they think that one official, 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.920 the mayor, the mayor supples to solve every problem. Social 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.400 Security now that's a federal benefit. Unemployment now that's a 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:26.880 state benefit. But we think, well, I voted for this 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:29.759 woman from mayor, why hasn't everything been fixed immediately? So 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:33.000 our President elect Harris will have to have a Congress 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:37.080 that is willing to work with her to change policies. 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.360 The number of high school town halls I had in 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.279 September getting students to register the vote. Who said, oh, no, 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:45.319 the last president gave my mama a check. No, it 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.160 was the majority leader in the Senate, who at the 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:50.719 time was Chuck Schumer, and it was Madam Speaker in 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:55.399 Washington DC, MSS Pelosi that worked together to get your 0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:59.040 parents some benefits during the pandemic. Now, for whatever reason, 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.960 the former president did and let the Secretary from Treasury 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.120 sign it. He decided he wanted his name on it. 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.480 So now people thinking that he was able to give 0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:09.319 them some money. He didn't give anybody anything. It took 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.200 action from the lawmakers to do it. And in Harrisburg, 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.640 the things that we oversee are paying for many public benefits, 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.719 like public education. In Pennsylvania, that's a big bill we have. 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.000 I was proud in our last budget to have the 0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:25.400 biggest investment thanks to my colleagues, finally into public schools, 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:28.359 making them fair. For so long in pas you got 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.400 to roll the dice on where you can afford to live, 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.160 on what type of public school you can access. That's 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.040 not all on Washington. A lot of that is on 0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:38.759 the state's responsibility. Similarly, we're in the city we live in. 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.920 You know people talk about a pothole, Well, if it's a. 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.480 City rule, we have to get downtown to get our 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.759 city council mempus working on something like that, so all 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.919 of us have a role to play. But people get 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.040 disenchanted because they think that one time you voted for 0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:53.640 elected official. 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:55.120 Why she was supposed to fix it all. 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.600 And it doesn't work that way. 0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:59.960 It takes collaboration, partnership, even once you set in it 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:00.960 ambitious agenda. 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:04.560 Now, speaking of collaboration, I want to go to the collective. 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:11.600 It is you all that creates history makers and helps 0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:15.000 to blaze trails for history makers like Madam speaker right here, 0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.520 I want to talk to you briefly quitting about what 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:22.919 you see as our responsibility in the next twelve hours, 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:27.160 right is what is our collective responsibility and call to 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.400 action leading up to election day tomorrow. 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:33.000 Well, first, good evening, Thank you all for having us Yes, 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:37.040 give it up the temple. You all sent a good 0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:39.280 brother by the name of doctor Greg Carr to Howard 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.720 University from this university. So he was my professor at Howard. 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.960 I'm an African American Studi's major. So thank you officing 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.160 him to us. The next twelve hours. What we got 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.359 to do. We got some good news. Right, There's been 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:53.880 a lot of talk around our black men go to 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:55.600 show up. Our black girl's going to come out. What 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.920 we know from the numbers, over two point seven million 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.080 Black people have already vote voted early. 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:02.120 In the battleground states. 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:07.240 Right huge, give yourselves around replause. Anybody already vote, People 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.520 already voted, I voted. So what we know is that, 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:14.040 for instance, in Georgia, forty eight percent of all black 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:14.960 women rights have. 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:16.520 Already voted right. 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:21.560 In North Carolina, over fifty percent of black women have 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:25.400 already voted right. So we're heading towards a record breaking 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:28.080 turnout tomorrow, at least from black women. We got to 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.279 make sure the gap isn't too big with black men. 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:32.200 But what we need to do we need to get 0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:35.719 everyone that we know out to the polls tomorrow. It 0:52:35.800 --> 0:52:37.879 is the job of the campaigns to convince them who 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.239 to vote for. It is your job to try and 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.160 get them to the polls. If you go on your 0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.200 phones real quick, put your phones out, go to rides 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:49.760 to Vote dot com. We are offering people thirty dollars 0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.440 uber vouchers to get to and from the polls tomorrow, 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:58.040 all across Pennsylvania, all across Maryland and Texas, in Wisconsin 0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:02.040 and Michigan and Georgia, North Carolina rides to vote dot com, 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:04.600 put it on your social media, put it up there. 0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:06.200 We need people to go and vote. 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:08.520 That's the biggest thing that we can do over the 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.640 next twelve hours is turn our people out. I'm predicting 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:16.080 that we're gonna have a really interesting surprise tomorrow, a 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.280 surprise I think to Andrew's point, I think we're gonna 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:23.120 see someone possibly get close to three hundred electoral votes. 0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.480 You know, we think about the polls and all the 0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:29.120 polls that you see, they're tight, one person's ahead by 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.160 a point or two. The thing that you don't think 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:34.040 about is those polls on average are about they say 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:36.600 there's a margin of air about three to four points. 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.120 And so imagine if some candidate has a little of 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.160 a bit of a break three or four points in 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:43.520 every single state, that could lead to someone winning the 0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:46.000 majority of the swing states. I think that will be 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.800 Vice President Harris. I predict she will also get about 0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.440 fifty five percent of white women to support her tomorrow, 0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.680 which if she does again, she is going to be 0:53:56.000 --> 0:54:00.359 the president elect come Wednesday morning or Wednesday after noon. 0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.640 Quents a quick follow up and really for all of 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:10.120 our guests. The election day voting results were folks who 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.600 will show up on Tomorrow Tuesday and cast their ballots. 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:17.600 And some states, obviously we've got early voting windows. Early 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:24.160 vote typically with the exception of twenty twenty favors favors Republicans, 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.160 and we think this year will be similar. Do you 0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:29.719 anticipate that the early vote, for instance, and Georgia comes 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:33.040 out and those are the first numbers and they show 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:38.440 Donald Trump with a substantial lead in early vote, do 0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.799 you think Donald Trump potentially goes out tomorrow eight nine 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:48.280 o'clock in declares victory as the next president. You fear 0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:51.040 whether or not these earth And this is something I 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.719 think all of us should really reckon with, is that 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.279 no matter what, the data as it comes in is 0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:02.160 going to look very and skewed from point to point. 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.200 The reason why they want one day of only voting 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.120 with paper ballots and a result that evening is so 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:13.440 that the votes that came in via absentee or early 0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:17.160 votes maybe or may not yet be factored into the 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:20.719 numbers when they are initially announced. Because these states all 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:24.080 have transparency rules, and as the numbers are counted, they're 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:26.799 to be posted and put out there that way, when 0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.640 eleven o'clock and the numbers are looking more round it 0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:33.120 and Kamala Harris has come back, then there is they 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:37.000 stole it from us. And if you fear that, what 0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.640 do you think our best tactics are as a people 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:43.799 to sort of calm that? And what responsibility do you 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:47.320 think Kambala Harris may have to address that? If Donald 0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:49.560 Trump preemptively declares victory. 0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:52.239 Well he's shown us that he will lie and he 0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.239 will try to steal an election. You know, when I 0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:56.120 was little, my granny said, don't ever tell a lie 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.839 because the next temptation will be to steal something that's 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.960 not yours. He's to steal elections. He was on the 0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:07.560 phone asking the governor to find votes. It's like, well, 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.799 when you find votes in Georgia, my friend, what's going 0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:12.920 to happen in Pennsylvania? Because you already lost. We have 0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:16.120 to recognize that people need to be patient. Democratic leaders 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.240 from across the nation are going to start hitting press 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.880 tomorrow night saying to count every vote, to let it 0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.520 be a free and fair election, which is a blessing 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.520 that we should cherish that we've always had in this nation, 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.880 and that we're going to do that again and just pursue, 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:34.480 you know, shake off all ideas that anybody won yet, 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:37.040 because it will not be clear since we've gone into 0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.840 the age where states allow for more ways for people 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:43.360 to vote. It's not twenty sixteen. We don't know Tuesday 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:46.160 night at midnight. We just don't like the time I 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.160 voted first time at LaSalle two thousand. Don't y'all laugh, 0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:52.680 you were born, you know, I was sitting on my bed, 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.759 finger legs crossed, like, what's going on? What's happening? You 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.759 know who won? Because it was a time when you 0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.120 just would know. But that is not the time. And 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.319 in Pennsylvania and our state House, we sent a bill 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:04.640 over to the Senate several months ago so that they 0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.480 could even just organize the mail in ballots, not open 0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.200 them and vote them yet, but just organize and sort them. 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:13.799 But they wouldn't, of course do that, because our state 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.760 senate's held by Republicans and they like the chaos. 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:18.640 Are you concerned about violence? 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.160 Absolutely, absolutely concerned about it and what people think about 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.800 when we think about January to sixth, we think people 0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:29.960 from certain states came from the South to Washington, DC, 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.360 and not realizing that Pennsylvania had the highest number of 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:37.400 people arrested from and of course nobody was really arrested 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:40.240 that day, so they was going on looking on footage 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:43.360 find out who people were. Found Pelosi's computer in Harrisburg 0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.000 with a twenty one year old. Yes, I'm very concerned 0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:48.680 about it, but we are being vigilant to ask people 0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:51.760 to be patient and most importantly, to recognize that the 0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.919 process will not be finished until it's finished. We even 0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.560 never had a stolen election, but we have had a 0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.560 former president that tried to throw our votes out. 0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:02.720 I want to you all come back to you, but Gaby, 0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:05.240 I want to get your prediction first, and then I 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:08.280 want to hear from you on the very important role 0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:11.760 that black girls, black women are playing in this election. 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:13.560 We know we're carrying this thing on our backs. How 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:14.680 much further do we have to go? 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.320 I would say we have some ways to go. We're 0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:23.040 showing up and the youth vote is definitely counting as 0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:25.880 us as college students, we're out there, we're getting the votes, 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.200 we're making sure people are registered to vote, and as 0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:31.200 black women, we're showing up like this is the first 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.360 women president and she just so happens to be black. 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.800 So it's one of those things where we all have 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:39.440 to collectively come together and make sure that we are 0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:44.360 showing out and to ensure that everyone's not like, oh 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:45.720 my goodness, it's a blowout. 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:46.080 It's this. 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:49.160 It's just remembering that a lot of the people who 0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.960 are voting in this election, this is our first time voting, 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.640 Like this is it for us. This is a big 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:58.200 election and it's her story. So many college students are 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:00.720 coming out, those high school students who are old enough 0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:04.200 or coming out. So just remembering that it's not just 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.080 the older generation going to the polls, it's us too. 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:11.160 So just remembering that and having that piece of information 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:14.480 with you, just stay calm and do your job, like 0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:17.000 go to the polls, take a friend to the pulls, 0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:19.360 make sure your kids are going to the polls after school. 0:59:19.800 --> 0:59:22.680 Do your job, and make sure people are going to vote. 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.120 Because at the end of the day, if you fall 0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:28.160 asleep tomorrow night and being like I register to vote 0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:32.120 and I voted, then we're all good. So I think 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:33.920 that's what we really need to remember. 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:36.560 Here we go quick, we were going thin th business. 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:37.840 Thank you for that. 0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:43.880 So yeah, I mean, I think I say this cautiously 0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:46.480 but I say this realistically, I think we should expect 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:49.440 Donald Trump to come out tomorrow and say either he 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:53.160 won or that the election is being rigged or stolen. 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:56.240 That is their only defense. If you remember in twenty twenty, 0:59:56.320 --> 1:00:00.720 there was one party calling for stage to stop count votes. 1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:03.800 That was not the Democratic Party, that was the Republican Party, 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:06.520 and so we should expect that, but we should also 1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:11.800 be patient. So we've talked to leaders in the different 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:15.320 states and just a quick rundown. So tomorrow, between seven 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.160 and ten PM on election night, we should have most 1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:22.360 results from Georgia and North Carolina, but only partial results 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:26.760 from Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan as well. We also may have 1:00:26.880 --> 1:00:31.720 near complete results from Virginia, Florida, Ohio, and Colorado. Between 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:34.320 ten PM and midnight, again we should have most results 1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:37.640 from Georgia, North Carolina and also possibly Michigan, but again 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:42.360 only partial results from Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and then initial 1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:46.000 results from Nevada. Going from midnight to six am. This 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:49.520 is Wednesday morning, y'all, most results from Wisconsin and Michigan, 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:54.280 but again only partial results still from Pennsylvania, Arizona. 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:54.320 And Nevada. 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:56.280 So the idea that we're going to know the winner 1:00:56.320 --> 1:00:59.720 tomorrow night. Is probably unlikely this will be going on 1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:01.720 into Wednesday, and so remain patient. 1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:04.080 Money. 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:05.840 Bet me some money, Bet you some money. 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:11.440 Yes, I mean, look, I said that she's gonna approach 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:16.560 three hundred Elexora votes. I think if we can call 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:19.360 Georgia and or North Carolina, then the game is over 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:22.440 tomorrow at by eleven o'clock possibly. 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:25.280 So. I think the one thing that just to all 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.880 of us should know is that one, it is always 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:32.120 taken three or four weeks for states to certify elections. 1:01:33.160 --> 1:01:37.400 Those calls are not typically made by any state until 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:42.160 those certifications take place. Arizona in particular, Nevada another one 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:46.080 in particular, whose state laws are very you know, specific 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:51.600 about some of these things, will withhold, not withhold, they 1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:55.200 will do their due diligence. Count votes are necessary, and 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:58.720 particularly those challenge ballots and states that are going to 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:02.800 be close, those challenge ballots have to be cured, which 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:05.480 requires a Republican and a Democrat sitting at the same 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:08.520 table and agreeing that a voter's intent is a voter's intent, 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.440 and that a voter's signature belongs to the voter who 1:02:11.600 --> 1:02:15.640 casts that particular ballot. The reason why I think we 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:19.400 may be at a more predicted place tomorrow night is 1:02:19.480 --> 1:02:22.520 there are certain counties in certain areas who will perform 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:27.640 certain ways, and depending upon how those places perform here 1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:32.479 in Pennsylvania and Georgia and North Carolina, networks will begin 1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:34.920 to start projecting who they believe the winners are. I 1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:38.280 think an open question is whether or not how deep 1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:41.080 Fox News is in the tank for Donald Trump, and 1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:44.440 whether or not they will go contrary to the work 1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:48.920 of most news organizations and start declaring states and putting 1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:52.320 in a column for Donald Trump that he hasn't rightly 1:02:52.640 --> 1:02:55.000 deserved yet. I don't fear that for Kamala Harris, because 1:02:55.040 --> 1:02:57.520 I think most networks are pretty cautious before they put 1:02:57.520 --> 1:03:00.280 a state on a column. But in addition to Donald 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:04.360 Trump claiming victory, my concern is that some of the networks, 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:07.439 who again get out there before votes are certified, before 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:10.160 elections are certified, they make a claim on a state, 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:15.280 thereby creating even more tension and fewer in the possibility. 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:17.920 I think for violence as hard when somebody says a 1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:20.480 state went for Donald Trump, and then the next morning 1:03:20.480 --> 1:03:22.920 you woke up and it was taken from him. Well, 1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:24.880 it wasn't taken from him. All of those weren't county. 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:28.640 Y'all jumped the gun, right. Nobody's won that state yet. 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:30.120 The vote hasn't been certified. 1:03:30.120 --> 1:03:32.800 But I don't I don't think Fox News will do 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:37.640 that simply because of the dominion lawsuit they did that. 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:39.120 They have a track. 1:03:39.000 --> 1:03:40.080 Record of being sued. 1:03:40.240 --> 1:03:43.960 But their track record was about lying on a certain 1:03:44.000 --> 1:03:48.800 company and that company faking or manipulating the vote count correct. 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:52.280 Declaring a winner isn't the same thing as as as 1:03:52.360 --> 1:03:55.240 besmerging a company's name and having to pay life. 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:57.120 Can you get in the first Amendment issue so that 1:03:57.240 --> 1:04:01.760 the same danger of lawsuits doesn't necessary early apply. I 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:04.760 would not be so confident about Fox News doing that. 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:07.400 Never, not once. But here's what I am confident about. 1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:10.920 Time is ticking. This panel has been amazing and we 1:04:10.960 --> 1:04:14.680 are going to give them around a cause. For those 1:04:14.680 --> 1:04:17.840 with you watching at home, know that Q James will 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:21.400 join us again tomorrow Election Night Live from Howard University 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:24.800 the Meta. But please give a red applause again to her, 1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:27.120 Madam Speaker, Join a McClinton. 1:04:28.320 --> 1:04:29.400 Away for joining. 1:04:46.080 --> 1:04:50.160 And next up we have a working family's agender partner 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:54.520 from Working Families Party, Party national director Maurice Mitchell, council 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:58.520 Member Kendra Brooks and council Member Nicholas Rourk will now 1:04:58.560 --> 1:05:01.000 join us if around our party. 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:09.080 Be live on camera, I have a seat. 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:11.520 We love you, mokaya all right, to make sure you 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:14.040 get all your time, y'all. 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:17.440 Lest we think about the threat of again elections. 1:05:17.480 --> 1:05:19.080 You really look like the Praise team right now that 1:05:19.200 --> 1:05:21.600 hold on, look at this, we really do. We got 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:24.560 the ten direct it okay sign but I just you 1:05:24.600 --> 1:05:26.160 know we do. 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:27.280 You curve frankly. 1:05:30.200 --> 1:05:31.480 And everybody else. 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:38.880 What responsibility do political parties that are not the majority 1:05:38.920 --> 1:05:41.720 parties Democratic or Republican, as well as C three C 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:46.320 four organizations who have been working on behalf of turning 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:49.280 out voters? What responsibility do you all feel you have 1:05:49.440 --> 1:05:52.920 tomorrow and then in the days after to ensure that 1:05:52.960 --> 1:05:56.640 we've got not just a fair election, but that we 1:05:56.680 --> 1:05:58.840 don't jump the gun and find ourselves in a situation 1:05:58.920 --> 1:06:03.920 where democracy really feels at stake and it becomes something physical. 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:06.440 What responsibility do you all think you all have in 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:07.880 that situation? 1:06:09.800 --> 1:06:13.840 Our number one responsibility always is to tell the truth, right, 1:06:14.000 --> 1:06:17.600 That's our number one responsibility, and it's hard to know. 1:06:18.720 --> 1:06:19.800 And also. 1:06:21.080 --> 1:06:30.600 Happy Election daye if everybody. So we don't know what's 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:35.000 going to happen, but we do know that Donald Trump 1:06:35.480 --> 1:06:39.320 and the MAGA movement will engage in some shenanigans, right. 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:47.640 And I remember in twenty twenty. I remember when at 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:51.760 the Convention Center in Philadelphia they were counting votes and 1:06:51.880 --> 1:06:57.280 Rudy Giuliani wanted to come and hold a press conference 1:06:57.960 --> 1:07:01.040 in order to kind of drum up the stop the 1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:05.800 Steel energy in Philly. But he don't know about Philly, right, 1:07:06.520 --> 1:07:11.760 and he found out, So, you know, Nicholas and Kendra 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:15.040 and a lot of the folks in the community turned 1:07:15.120 --> 1:07:20.960 that space into a Party for Democracy and shut that down, 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:23.760 shut the Stop the Spiel movement down in Philly, and 1:07:23.840 --> 1:07:29.280 instead we basically celebrated our democracy. So to me, we 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:32.160 have a duty to when the dust is settled and 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:34.640 the days and weeks after, we know that there's going 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:36.800 to be a lot of noise to be able to 1:07:36.840 --> 1:07:40.959 communicate to the people that we have influence over that 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:45.280 we got us, that the processes of our democracy are 1:07:46.160 --> 1:07:48.600 fear and that we need to make sure that every 1:07:48.720 --> 1:07:49.640 vote is counted. 1:07:50.760 --> 1:07:52.720 I appreciate you. I want to hear from the other 1:07:52.840 --> 1:07:55.160 two of you, but you gave an important example of 1:07:55.240 --> 1:07:57.280 one that I just wanted to illuminate as well. In 1:07:57.320 --> 1:08:01.800 Florida in two thousand and the Bush be scenario, it 1:08:01.960 --> 1:08:05.360 was outside groups, not necessarily political parties, but also staff 1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:09.959 who were flown in bust in to certain precincts where 1:08:10.000 --> 1:08:12.560 they knew that the vote count and those precincts where 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:16.479 those ballots fully counted would result in black They were 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:21.519 largely black precincts, and I watched as many community groups 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:25.880 and community leaders shrink from the moment of standing up 1:08:25.920 --> 1:08:30.120 for democracy because the other side was so violent, so loud, 1:08:30.640 --> 1:08:34.800 so agitating and antagonizing. And it's the reason why I 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:38.160 wanted to know how U all's organizations are sort of 1:08:38.280 --> 1:08:41.439 prepared or thinking about that, because I don't think any 1:08:41.520 --> 1:08:44.920 of us can put it beyond the pale that should 1:08:44.960 --> 1:08:48.800 they show up at precincts and counting locations, that the 1:08:48.880 --> 1:08:51.559 votes they're going to want to shut down first will 1:08:51.600 --> 1:08:54.839 be amongst the folks who are estimated to vote almost 1:08:54.920 --> 1:08:57.680 ninety percent for their opponent, which means they'll be in 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:02.840 black neighborhoods, younger college campuses and an effort to shut 1:09:02.880 --> 1:09:05.000 down the ability to count every vote. 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:08.000 Oh oh, they're saying the quiet part out loud. 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:10.599 They are saying what they plan on doing, right, They 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.240 want to call the election even before we've counted all 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:15.439 the votes, which is why it's important for us to 1:09:15.640 --> 1:09:16.680 understand the assignment. 1:09:18.000 --> 1:09:19.160 I would just say that one of the things that 1:09:19.160 --> 1:09:21.640 we were trying to be intentional in doing in the 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:24.280 midst of the lockdowns when the twenty twenty election was 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:29.280 going forward was returning a sense of joy in the 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:31.320 act of this wholest election system. 1:09:31.840 --> 1:09:34.559 Actually, the whole movement joye of the polls was kind of. 1:09:34.479 --> 1:09:37.200 Burfed out of the party that was set up at 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:40.120 that convention center to push back against the negative energy 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:42.559 that many folks were feeling, all the anxiety that folks 1:09:42.560 --> 1:09:44.880 were dealing with in the midst of it all, and 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:50.920 using joy as a resistance tactic to and also to 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:54.320 kind of booy the spirit in pushing back. It also 1:09:54.400 --> 1:09:56.400 continues to be something that folks do. It's now kind 1:09:56.439 --> 1:09:58.040 of spread. You now have DJ at the Polsy, you 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:00.599 have all these other means by which people are bringing 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:04.000 celebration and a spirit of festivity to that space, and 1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:08.160 it diffuses a bit some of the tension that happens 1:10:08.160 --> 1:10:10.080 at that space, and so as you have seen it 1:10:10.080 --> 1:10:12.880 now has kind of gone national or what have you. 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:15.120 And that's one of the things that we continue to 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:17.200 prioritize in this work. 1:10:17.920 --> 1:10:19.920 And I just want to add that we organize like 1:10:20.040 --> 1:10:24.320 we are all organizers, So we organize not just at 1:10:24.360 --> 1:10:25.000 election time. 1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:26.720 This is an ongoing process. 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.600 So whatever happens on election day, we still have a 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:33.640 commitment to our community to build and grow because the 1:10:33.640 --> 1:10:36.680 way we win election after election is by building this 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:39.799 movement and growing our base. So our commitment is always 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:42.960 going to be first to grassroots movement, our organizers, and 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:46.400 our communities to build and grow from every moment. 1:10:47.000 --> 1:10:49.519 And that's the difference between a third party movement that's 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:54.320 actually on these streets versus third party movements that parachute 1:10:54.320 --> 1:10:56.400 every four years with us a. 1:10:56.600 --> 1:10:59.920 Let's talk about it, Okay, I want to talk about it. 1:11:00.320 --> 1:11:03.719 So on that point, there are a lot of folks 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:06.960 that here wishless and pie in the sky agendas from 1:11:07.080 --> 1:11:10.200 third party candidates, and you guys are very serious about 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:13.559 organizing all the way down ballot. Can you talk about 1:11:13.600 --> 1:11:17.000 what the role of the Working Families Party is in 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:19.559 this election, where do you all stand in the presidential 1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:20.799 election and then down ballot? 1:11:21.280 --> 1:11:24.880 Sure, well, the Working Families Party every and we've been 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:27.439 around for twenty six years, so every single election year 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:32.400 we're making close to one thousand endorsements. This election year 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:36.160 we have seven hundred and fifty close so seven hundred 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:39.800 and fifty endorse candidates. That means that in California we 1:11:39.840 --> 1:11:42.400 have one hundred and thirty four candidates that we've endorsed 1:11:42.400 --> 1:11:45.080 on the municipal level, on the state level as well, 1:11:45.120 --> 1:11:48.320 at the top of the ticket in Georgia, in Pennsylvania. 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:52.280 So we're concerned with the state house because that's where 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:55.400 the laws get made. Right, If you actually are serious 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:59.720 about policies, policies that will actually make a difference in 1:11:59.760 --> 1:12:02.760 your lives, then you have to be focused on where 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:06.400 the laws get made in city councils, which is why 1:12:06.720 --> 1:12:10.080 I'm so proud that in the city of Philadelphia it's 1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:14.559 a two party city, Working Families and Democrats right or 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:18.760 in state houses or in Congress, which means you have 1:12:18.840 --> 1:12:20.960 to care about the down ballot races. 1:12:20.920 --> 1:12:23.400 And political parties. 1:12:24.320 --> 1:12:27.479 Political parties if you're to take them seriously, are not 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:28.519 just about winning elections. 1:12:28.560 --> 1:12:29.479 They're about governing. 1:12:29.800 --> 1:12:33.639 And the real governing happens in those legislative bodies. 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:35.679 So if you only hear. 1:12:35.600 --> 1:12:40.320 A political party talk about their presidential candidate every four years, 1:12:40.920 --> 1:12:45.400 it might mean they're not serious about governing, right, and 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:49.880 governing is actually how we deliver. And I'd love for Nick, 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:57.920 who you just got your first bill passed, right, and 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:01.559 Kendra to talk about these cow crete victories that they 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:04.960 worked day and night with our coalition to pass through 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:08.480 Philly City Council, because these are transformative. 1:13:09.200 --> 1:13:12.160 Peter Brooks, you want to start first, Okay, Well, yeah, 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:14.479 very well, thank you very much for saying that. I 1:13:14.520 --> 1:13:16.680 am pretty proud of our staff and our team who 1:13:16.760 --> 1:13:21.080 helped put together our first bill passed with an overwhelming 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:26.040 support from our colleagues to ban algorithmic rental price fixing. 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:30.400 There is we are in Philadelphia every election cycle, we're 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:32.680 reminded over and over again that we're the poorest big 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:36.800 city in the USA about nearly fifty some forty percent 1:13:36.840 --> 1:13:39.479 of the residents of the city, meaning almost every other 1:13:39.520 --> 1:13:42.479 person you see as a renter. And you already heard 1:13:42.479 --> 1:13:44.000 the folks up in New York talk about the rent 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:44.720 being too damn high. 1:13:44.720 --> 1:13:46.759 It's too high here too, and so how. 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:49.559 Do we govern in a way that protects tenants here 1:13:49.600 --> 1:13:51.800 in the city of Philadelphia. As the folks say, all 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:54.360 politics is local. I heard someone say recently, if it is, 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:56.960 if all politics are local, then all local politics is housing, 1:13:57.280 --> 1:13:58.960 because that's one of the material ways by which we're 1:13:58.960 --> 1:14:01.280 able to secure people and create safety, and and and 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:04.400 and also build from there. So we're super proud to 1:14:04.439 --> 1:14:06.320 be able to go ahead and put forward something that's 1:14:06.320 --> 1:14:10.040 going to help materially protect the lives of almost half 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:12.000 the city or at least have shelter over their heads. 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:15.439 That's good. 1:14:14.600 --> 1:14:20.480 Oh, Okay, So I wanted to address this third party issue, 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:23.720 but one more just to like double click on this 1:14:23.800 --> 1:14:27.559 and get even closer to the point. For the presidential candidate, 1:14:28.640 --> 1:14:31.320 you know, the options that you have. Did you all 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:32.320 choose a candidate? 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:35.520 Yes, we did, and I want to tell you why. 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:36.599 I want to know who it is. 1:14:36.840 --> 1:14:41.240 Okay, Okay, So the Working Families Party endor endorsed Kamala 1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:42.519 Harris and Tim. 1:14:42.360 --> 1:14:44.719 Walls for all the third party candidates watching. 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:45.320 Did you hear that? 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:45.879 Okay? 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:46.920 Okay? Yeah? 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:50.800 And we're independent, So I'm not a Democrat, all right, 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:56.160 I'm proudly an independent person who's building an independent third 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:58.880 party from the ground up. Right, So we're not we're 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:02.719 not democrats and sense we're independence. We're building independent power. 1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:05.840 And like I said before, our job is to tell 1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:10.559 the truth. Building a serious third party in this country 1:15:10.600 --> 1:15:13.639 that has such a rigid two party system is not easy. 1:15:13.800 --> 1:15:15.639 Serious, it is not easy. 1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:18.800 Look, Rothbaro couldn't do with all of his money in 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:19.800 nineteen ninety two. 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:21.080 It is not easy. 1:15:21.120 --> 1:15:24.120 But we've learned the art of doing it right, and 1:15:24.600 --> 1:15:27.240 we have the receipts to prove that it can be done, 1:15:28.000 --> 1:15:32.360 not just in this city, but now in twenty states 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:36.839 around the country. We're building it and we're securing concrete victories. 1:15:36.880 --> 1:15:38.200 Like we're talking about here. 1:15:38.560 --> 1:15:42.000 We could not see based on the power that we 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:45.439 currently had, and we currently are building a path for 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:47.519 us to run our own person at the top of 1:15:47.560 --> 1:15:48.519 the ticket number one. 1:15:48.880 --> 1:15:49.120 Right. 1:15:49.360 --> 1:15:52.080 So being an organizer is being honest with your people 1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:53.720 about the power that you have and the power that 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:54.280 you need. 1:15:54.520 --> 1:15:54.800 Right. 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:58.800 And math right, Oh, Also, I mean the other thing 1:15:58.920 --> 1:16:03.719 is that you know so it's basic math. It's basic math. 1:16:04.360 --> 1:16:08.679 The math does not math for a independent third party, 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:13.120 based on the current rules to win the electoral college 1:16:13.200 --> 1:16:16.920 two hundred and seventy electoral college votes to win the presidency. 1:16:17.720 --> 1:16:24.040 So also, we are in a historic moment where if 1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:27.880 the hate rally at MSG didn't let you know, we're 1:16:27.920 --> 1:16:32.280 dealing with a hate movement, a fascist movement, an authoritarian movement, 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:35.559 and so that contrast couldn't be more clear for us. 1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:39.080 So this is a five alarm fire for our democracy. 1:16:39.479 --> 1:16:42.599 We as an independent third party, understood what time it was, 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:45.920 and we felt it was our duty to communicate to 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:50.520 all the people that entrust in us their political decisions, 1:16:50.560 --> 1:16:54.360 to say with our full chest that we've endorsed Kamala 1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:58.400 Harrison Tim Walls so that we could have more space 1:16:58.439 --> 1:17:01.439 to do the organizing that we've been doing right now. 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:05.000 We don't believe that any politician is going to save 1:17:05.080 --> 1:17:08.960 us right Our belief is in organizing in our people, 1:17:09.200 --> 1:17:12.080 and we believe in this binary choice that there's one 1:17:12.160 --> 1:17:14.880 choice that gives us more space to organize, and there's 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:18.600 another choice that gives us less space. And it isn't theoretical. 1:17:19.520 --> 1:17:24.320 There's one side that's talking about deporting protesters. There's one 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:28.519 side that's talking about rounding up their political opponents. And 1:17:28.600 --> 1:17:33.320 so it is actually for us not a hard decision, right, 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:34.360 which is why. 1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:35.200 We don't shrink. 1:17:35.560 --> 1:17:37.720 We're clear when we make endorsements, we say it with 1:17:37.800 --> 1:17:41.200 a full chest, and we could stand on twenty six 1:17:41.240 --> 1:17:45.800 plus years of organizing and doing work on local communities 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:48.960 to validate that when we say this, we mean it. 1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:49.519 I want to. 1:17:49.479 --> 1:17:51.680 Stick with this third party issue because I think this 1:17:51.720 --> 1:17:53.920 is something that came up a lot this year, particularly 1:17:53.920 --> 1:17:56.799 around a lot of people. When it was Joe Biden 1:17:57.160 --> 1:17:58.800 on the ticket, there were a lot of people who 1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:04.719 felt not enthusiastic about either person. We did an episode. 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:07.960 I encourage you guys to all check it out. We 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:10.559 did a full conversation on third party candidates and what 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:13.040 that means, and I think we should have an intellectual 1:18:13.120 --> 1:18:16.559 conversation around third parties. A two party system has not 1:18:16.600 --> 1:18:19.839 served our community and arguably it has not served anyone. 1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:22.759 It has not served the country, and as we start 1:18:22.800 --> 1:18:26.840 to reimagine what democracy could and should look like, I 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:29.240 don't think we should dismiss third parties. Like the work 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:31.439 you're doing, it's important that you punctuate the point it's 1:18:31.439 --> 1:18:34.519 taken twenty six years to build this. The challenge is 1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:37.439 a lot of people who champion a third party. The 1:18:37.479 --> 1:18:41.080 presidential race is very seductive, but when you think about it, 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:43.759 there are plenty. There's a plethora of third party candidates 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:47.000 who've been victorious across this country at the state and 1:18:47.080 --> 1:18:49.519 local level. That is where you can start to make 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:51.960 a difference. So I don't want to discourage people who 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:54.559 are out there who feel this way. We acknowledge that. 1:18:55.680 --> 1:18:57.960 Angela and I frequently say we are not mouthpieces for 1:18:58.040 --> 1:19:00.160 the Democratic Party. They don't call and ask us for 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.519 too much because we are critical. We understand racism, like 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:09.080 we've said, is a bipartisan challenge, but there is a pathway. 1:19:08.680 --> 1:19:11.000 To victory for third party candidates. 1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:13.360 So I think it's important the story that you just 1:19:13.400 --> 1:19:15.479 told about the work that you do, that that work 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:16.920 happens at the grassroots level. 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:17.920 So thank you for that. 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:18.479 Thank you. 1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:21.120 I would also say, we got to be honest about 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:23.920 the limitations at the federal level, which is why I 1:19:23.920 --> 1:19:26.600 appreciate I was honored to get the endorsement of the 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:28.440 Working Families Party in Florida. 1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:31.439 Say which full chance Andrew this. 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:35.719 This is the worst part about it is that from 1:19:35.720 --> 1:19:39.160 the Constitution of the United States to the effectuating statutes 1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:43.080 and laws that have been passed ever since, they exist 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:47.400 only to prop up the two party systems. Dollars come 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:49.960 from the federal government to support the Democratic Party and 1:19:50.120 --> 1:19:54.640 the Republican Party. It finds every way possible under the 1:19:54.720 --> 1:19:57.439 laws and constructs that it's created to keep third parties 1:19:57.520 --> 1:20:01.280 out of the game, to ensure that that your negotiation 1:20:01.479 --> 1:20:05.280 is always one between which one will create a better 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:08.519 organizing environment for you, rather than you setting the tone 1:20:08.960 --> 1:20:12.760 of what that organizing environment will be by being the 1:20:12.920 --> 1:20:16.479 party that wins. And so I think one of the 1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:18.320 things that I think we're all challenged to do is 1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:21.120 we reimagine the kind of government that would be reflective 1:20:21.160 --> 1:20:24.959 of us rather than of power structures and power structures 1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:28.280 specifically that don't serve us. Is how we can get 1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:32.160 serious about organizing at a level where we can then 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:37.360 put people in positions from states legislative races to congressional 1:20:37.400 --> 1:20:40.320 races and our forward that will pass laws or at 1:20:40.400 --> 1:20:45.519 least uncouple the stranglehold that our current laws have to 1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:49.400 prop up only to political parties in America. 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:52.240 Unless that system gets leveled. 1:20:52.360 --> 1:20:55.320 There's no chance at a third party competing at the 1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:58.680 and no amount of money will make the difference in 1:20:58.760 --> 1:21:03.080 that when the laws are on the books specifically to 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:04.920 keep a third party out, you gotta have so many 1:21:05.160 --> 1:21:06.920 many people in a state, you gotta have so many 1:21:07.000 --> 1:21:09.960 votes from so many people in that particular congressional district, 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:12.280 so on and so forth, and so I applaud with 1:21:12.360 --> 1:21:14.360 y'all are doing. It is the long work, and it's 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:17.240 the hard work. But we all have to be enlisted 1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:20.360 if we're serious about wanting to level the system as 1:21:20.360 --> 1:21:23.879 that he just today and opening I think our investment 1:21:24.000 --> 1:21:44.320 and groups like Working Family Party. 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:40.080 We can't have a conversation about third parties without bringing 1:21:40.240 --> 1:21:44.599 on our dear brother and friend, Professor Mark Lamont Hill, 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:46.560 who's here. Mark, I'm gonna give you my seat and 1:21:46.560 --> 1:21:48.040 I'm gonna take the float to mic because I want 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:50.000 you to be a part of this conversation in this panel. 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:51.360 Give them where I'm call. 1:21:55.600 --> 1:21:56.920 Yeah, you all want to know you. 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:01.640 Picked to day to have the accident of all accidents. 1:22:02.120 --> 1:22:04.439 So I spent the last hour running back and forth 1:22:04.479 --> 1:22:08.640 to the car, to the stove, to the blowout. 1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:10.519 Oh that kind of blowout. 1:22:10.640 --> 1:22:12.000 Yeah, yeah, he fine, I'm not. 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:15.840 Traumatizic. 1:22:15.920 --> 1:22:16.080 Well. 1:22:16.120 --> 1:22:19.240 I wanted to bring Mark up for this moment for 1:22:19.320 --> 1:22:22.000 a couple of reasons. One is, I think the biggest 1:22:22.080 --> 1:22:26.800 argument we've ever had is centered around twenty sixteen, and 1:22:26.840 --> 1:22:30.719 I think what is not fair is that you've, although 1:22:30.760 --> 1:22:34.080 you've tried several times to articulate the nuance of your position, 1:22:35.120 --> 1:22:37.280 it's something that continues to come back. And I think 1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:39.920 that this year in particular, given all that's going on, 1:22:40.040 --> 1:22:44.240 given your advocacy around Gaza and your own experience there, 1:22:44.439 --> 1:22:47.800 it's a critical election and you've made a really significant 1:22:47.880 --> 1:22:49.439 choice about what you're going to do this year, and 1:22:49.439 --> 1:22:51.920 i'd love for you to talk about, you know, what 1:22:51.960 --> 1:22:54.000 the considerations were and how you got there. 1:22:54.520 --> 1:22:57.800 Yeah, thank you for that. It's been a heck of 1:22:57.840 --> 1:23:00.240 a journey. And it's good to see everybody too, So 1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:02.639 good to see everybody. Most of y'all only see online, 1:23:02.720 --> 1:23:06.360 so it's good to be in person and community with everybody. 1:23:05.439 --> 1:23:09.600 I've been a Green Party member since. 1:23:11.960 --> 1:23:13.040 Twenty five years now. 1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:17.120 And I remain one a very proud Green Party member, 1:23:18.280 --> 1:23:22.320 despite my frustrations at times, and over that time, I 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:25.880 have consistently, with one exception, voted Green and the reason 1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:30.599 why I vote Green is because I do believe in 1:23:30.640 --> 1:23:32.519 the need for a third party. And I think I 1:23:32.680 --> 1:23:34.160 didn't hear what y'all were just talking about, but I 1:23:34.200 --> 1:23:36.000 heard the end of it, and I think we have 1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:37.799 to create the conditions for a third party. 1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:39.720 And I think that as long as we believe that 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:40.360 there are. 1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:45.880 There's only two options, and it's the lesser of two 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:48.360 evils is our only option, and the evil is always 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:49.920 going to be the outcome that we're going to get. 1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:53.040 And so we always have to be mindful of how 1:23:53.080 --> 1:23:55.720 we can push Democrats to the left, how we can 1:23:55.760 --> 1:23:58.400 imagine new political possibilities so we don't stay locked in 1:23:58.439 --> 1:24:01.280 the same frameworks. And so for me, that has meant 1:24:01.360 --> 1:24:05.599 voting Green, not because I think Jill Stein was gonna 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:06.120 be president. 1:24:06.520 --> 1:24:07.639 You know, I don't know if i'd be happy. 1:24:07.640 --> 1:24:09.200 I think I would not be happy if Jill Stein 1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:13.680 were a president as a practical matter, but I'd be 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:16.920 happy if the Green Party were able to build and 1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:20.280 organize and if we were able to get five percent 1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:22.519 of the vote, we were able to we would be 1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:26.840 able to get enough funding in order to have a 1:24:26.840 --> 1:24:30.880 more competitive race the next time around, not just for 1:24:31.000 --> 1:24:33.120 the presidency, which we ain't gonna win no time soon, 1:24:33.200 --> 1:24:38.479 but gubernatorial races, mayoralties, city councils, et cetera. So that's 1:24:38.560 --> 1:24:42.959 the logic of it for me. And I've always resisted 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:46.680 the argument that, well, this election is different because it 1:24:46.720 --> 1:24:49.000 ain't been an election yet that we haven't been told 1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:51.800 this one is different. It wasn't like, you know, they said, 1:24:51.800 --> 1:24:53.519 I don't vote cars, Okay, Reagan will be fine. It 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:55.160 wasn't like they said, oh, Daddy, Bush will be fine. 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:57.920 Bush will be fine. Trump every time the sky is falling, 1:24:57.960 --> 1:25:00.400 every time, this is the worst threat to Democrat we've 1:25:00.439 --> 1:25:02.479 ever seen, and therefore you have to vote Democrat. Now, 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:07.360 the truth is Republicans keep getting worse, and so it's 1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:09.920 not untrue that this is the worst threat. I would 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:11.679 argue Trump is a worst threat than Bush, and Bush 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:13.959 maybe not a worse threat than Reagan, but in retrospect. 1:25:14.040 --> 1:25:16.680 But you get the point. So that's the backdrop to 1:25:16.720 --> 1:25:17.080 all of this. 1:25:17.200 --> 1:25:20.160 And so this election cycle, I was faced with the 1:25:20.160 --> 1:25:23.280 same challenging question that we argued about in twenty sixteen, 1:25:23.360 --> 1:25:25.000 and that was what do you do. 1:25:25.840 --> 1:25:27.360 When you're facing a Trump. 1:25:29.320 --> 1:25:33.439 In twenty sixteen, My response was exactly what I had 1:25:33.960 --> 1:25:37.280 planned for, which was I voted Green. I said that 1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:40.920 not because I thought Trump would be good, but because I. 1:25:43.160 --> 1:25:44.599 Believed that the. 1:25:44.640 --> 1:25:48.840 Context was right for us to really mount a resistance. Now, 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:51.400 to be clear, even when I voted Green in twenty sixteen, 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:56.280 y'all know I live in Pennsylvania. I really was advocating 1:25:56.280 --> 1:26:00.680 Green Party voting in the forty two states that are 1:26:00.720 --> 1:26:02.840 not competitive because if you think of because they always 1:26:02.840 --> 1:26:03.760 say your vote, you wasting your vote. 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:04.720 If you vote, you waste your vote. 1:26:04.720 --> 1:26:07.160 If you vote anything in Mississippi or California or Texas 1:26:07.200 --> 1:26:08.040 other than the thing that's. 1:26:07.920 --> 1:26:08.320 Going to win. 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:10.439 I mean what I mean by waste. 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:12.960 What I mean by waste is if I'm a Republican 1:26:13.080 --> 1:26:17.760 voting in California. I'm not making a dent either. I'm 1:26:17.760 --> 1:26:19.720 talking at the level of president. I think down to 1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:21.840 ballot you should Down ballot is a whole different conversation. 1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:23.719 I'm only talking about presdential election right now. Down ballot, 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:25.120 I think we have to be very careful and very 1:26:25.120 --> 1:26:26.760 strategic because Republicans have been. 1:26:26.720 --> 1:26:27.559 Strategic for decades. 1:26:27.640 --> 1:26:29.320 Right while we're thinking about the presidency, they went in 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:31.719 state houses, they're taken over. They're doing all the things 1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:36.160 necessary to ruin our lives in very meaningful, day to 1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:38.559 day way. So I'm not saying your vote doesn't matter. 1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:41.320 What I'm saying is that we could be strategic and 1:26:41.360 --> 1:26:43.479 still build a third party. For me, that meant vote 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:46.439 trading and strategic balloting. So and so, for example, I'm 1:26:46.439 --> 1:26:47.720 in Pennsylvania. 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:49.360 I might not vote Green. 1:26:50.080 --> 1:26:52.800 In California, I would, and if you know somebody is 1:26:52.800 --> 1:26:55.040 in that state, y'all can vote trade. Right, There's ways 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:57.760 to navigate it so that the Green Party gets its 1:26:57.840 --> 1:26:59.920 vote and we keep Trump out. What I said that 1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:02.479 entire time in twenty sixteen was we have to do 1:27:02.520 --> 1:27:05.760 whatever we can do to keep Trump out while simultaneously 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:08.800 building a third party movement. Now sometime that message gets 1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:11.080 lost in all because all people all I ever see 1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:13.040 on the internet is a clip of me saying we 1:27:13.040 --> 1:27:14.200 can afford to lose an election. 1:27:14.320 --> 1:27:16.600 We can. You know, I'm you know, things that I 1:27:16.640 --> 1:27:18.320 wouldn't say in context. 1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:20.400 I never wanted Trump to be in there, and I 1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:24.559 did all I could to stop it, but they lost. 1:27:24.720 --> 1:27:26.280 And one more thing about that before I tell you 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:30.679 what I'm going to do now. The election wasn't lost 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:33.760 because of Green Party, you know, And I think that 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:36.120 that's an unfair burd I think it lets democrats off 1:27:36.120 --> 1:27:38.400 the hook for not meeting our needs. I think it 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:40.720 ignores the effect that the Clinton campaign in particular did 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:42.439 not target the right states at the right time and 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:46.600 the right demographics. You know, no one is entitled to 1:27:46.640 --> 1:27:49.679 our vote. And also if you look at the vote also, 1:27:49.720 --> 1:27:50.760 just to be nerdy, but if you look at the 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:53.840 exit ata, people who are voting Green aren't voting Democrat next, 1:27:54.200 --> 1:27:55.640 some of them voting Trump next, some of them are 1:27:55.640 --> 1:27:56.960 not voting at all next, some of them are voting 1:27:57.000 --> 1:27:59.280 Communist Party next, some of them voting Socialists next. A 1:27:59.280 --> 1:28:00.640 lot of people are in the Green Party because they 1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:02.400 don't want to be part of the main system. So 1:28:02.640 --> 1:28:04.679 even if the Green Party doesn't run, clardaated La Cruz 1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:06.400 will probably get their vote. And I know people say, 1:28:06.439 --> 1:28:07.880 if I don't vote for them, I'm voting Trump because 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:09.240 I want to be outside the system, as if he's 1:28:09.280 --> 1:28:10.080 outside the system. 1:28:10.600 --> 1:28:12.680 So I don't accept any of that. 1:28:12.760 --> 1:28:15.759 This time around, I was faced with a very similar challenge, 1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:18.719 and I was faced with the realities of a genocide 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:24.880 in Gaza. And as I stand in strong solidarity with 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:30.320 Palestinian people. Many of them have said genocide is a 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:31.120 red line for them. 1:28:31.680 --> 1:28:32.599 It's a non starter. 1:28:32.680 --> 1:28:36.920 They can't vote for anybody who is endorsing a genocide. Now, obviously, 1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:41.040 Kamala Harris is not the head of the Biden administration. 1:28:41.120 --> 1:28:43.559 Biden is the head of the Biden administration, and if 1:28:43.560 --> 1:28:45.360 she promised a different way, I think she could make 1:28:45.360 --> 1:28:49.400 a compelling argument. Unfortunately, much of what she has spoken 1:28:49.400 --> 1:28:51.679 about so far has suggested that it's the status quote, 1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:53.920 we support Israel's right to defend itself, which is really 1:28:53.960 --> 1:28:56.599 secret agent talk for you know, we're gonna keep funding 1:28:56.640 --> 1:28:59.160 these weapons in these bombs. I have no reason to 1:28:59.160 --> 1:29:01.320 believe that the harrison is going to be different, because 1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:04.400 I have no presidential administration has been largely different. 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:06.120 So you have to tell me you're going to be different. 1:29:06.160 --> 1:29:06.479 You can't. 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:08.559 I can't assume you know what I mean. We did 1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:11.800 that with too many other presidents. So then the question becomes, well, 1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:16.600 if that's the same, what do I do? And I 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:21.360 would never tell a Palestinian not you know what I mean, 1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:23.639 not to stay home or not to vote third party? 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:26.000 How could I? How dare I right? 1:29:26.080 --> 1:29:27.760 How dare I, in the midst of a genocide, say, 1:29:27.840 --> 1:29:30.600 vote for the person who's literally funding or helping to 1:29:30.600 --> 1:29:35.000 fund your genocide. And whether it's Biden, whoever, Let's be clear, 1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:38.720 Trump ain't not Trump would be worse. So that's one 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:41.400 one thing I also have to calculate is despite what 1:29:41.600 --> 1:29:44.479 we're saying, Trump on stage said the only thing I 1:29:44.520 --> 1:29:47.120 would do different is I finished the job. And we 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:49.559 saw Trump treated Palestinians and as president, so we don't 1:29:49.560 --> 1:29:51.880 have to guess under he cut funds and did all 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:53.160 these things we could talk about if we want to, 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:56.200 far more intensely than Biden did, and Biden's been terrible. 1:29:57.280 --> 1:30:00.120 So if I then make a vote right now, it 1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:02.640 would not be for a policy different policy outcome. It 1:30:02.680 --> 1:30:05.840 would be for UH to send a message that genocide 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:06.680 is unacceptable. 1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:09.559 And I'm down with anybody who wants to make that choice. 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:12.519 But I believe right now, given what we've seen in 1:30:12.520 --> 1:30:16.719 the past, given the reality of what's going on in Gaza, 1:30:17.640 --> 1:30:19.400 and I do believe that more Palestines would die under 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:21.920 Trump than under Harris, even though I think too many 1:30:21.960 --> 1:30:25.559 will die under both. And in light of the fact 1:30:25.560 --> 1:30:27.880 that there are other things that I witnessed over the 1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:28.920 last eight years that have. 1:30:28.960 --> 1:30:33.840 Broken my heart. My father, My father died alone. 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:37.320 Right down the street at twenty third in spring Garden 1:30:38.320 --> 1:30:39.439 because we couldn't see him. 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:40.680 You saw him. 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:42.800 We went and visited him one night. We snuck and 1:30:42.800 --> 1:30:44.880 snuck in anyhing stale, just getoraded of leave him some gatory. 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:45.320 I can't remember. 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:46.519 That's the okay. 1:30:46.600 --> 1:30:48.479 He didn't need it. Black people got sugar. 1:30:49.640 --> 1:30:53.519 So but after he let But once COVID came, he 1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:56.519 was he was older, he was ninety, but suddenly because 1:30:56.560 --> 1:30:58.240 of the pandemic, he couldn't. 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:01.360 He couldn't, he couldn't see anybody. He was isolated. 1:31:01.439 --> 1:31:03.640 What does it mean to be an isolation inside of 1:31:04.160 --> 1:31:07.160 inside of a nursing home which became death camps all 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:11.599 around this country, as did prisons. Now that ain't Trump's fault, 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:13.360 but Trump could have done some things different, like read 1:31:13.360 --> 1:31:16.559 the pandemic playbook, not try to tell us the bleach 1:31:16.560 --> 1:31:19.280 you'll fix it, or the sunlight will fix it. My 1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:23.240 sister died likely of COVID the day of my father's funeral. 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:28.360 But it's not personal for me. Hundreds, I mean all 1:31:28.360 --> 1:31:32.000 of us lost people, money, jobs, but more importantly, people. 1:31:33.960 --> 1:31:37.120 Those are preventable deaths, against the batch of all this 1:31:37.200 --> 1:31:40.519 other stuff, against the batch of losing the Supreme Court, 1:31:40.600 --> 1:31:42.920 and and what the Chevron decision is going to mean, 1:31:42.960 --> 1:31:45.360 and basically giving the president the license to kill almost 1:31:45.560 --> 1:31:47.519 and almost the Kingdom. When I look at all of 1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:49.719 this and I see another Trump presidency, I don't believe 1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:51.400 that Trump is the boogeyman in the sense that the 1:31:51.439 --> 1:31:54.479 people can't defeat him. But the way to defeat Trump, 1:31:54.640 --> 1:31:57.559 not all presidents, not most presidents, not any but Trump 1:31:57.600 --> 1:31:59.640 at this juncture history, I do think, is to do 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:02.559 everything we can to vote him out. And for me, 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:04.479 that means I am going to pull the lever tomorrow 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.880 morning for Kamala Harris unless something. Let's she say something 1:32:06.880 --> 1:32:11.959 real crazy tonight. I mean, I mean real crazy. 1:32:12.760 --> 1:32:14.720 She's not gonna do nothing crazy. She's just gonna be 1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:25.040 down here with the roots. 1:32:26.160 --> 1:32:29.400 I want to ask you about about Gaza one. 1:32:29.640 --> 1:32:31.400 I just we were talking about you a little at 1:32:31.439 --> 1:32:37.599 dinner tonight, and I fully understand. I think we all 1:32:37.640 --> 1:32:40.439 do what it's like to stand on your convictions, even 1:32:40.479 --> 1:32:44.400 if you're the only person standing there. And I think 1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:47.479 had you made the comments that you did today, it 1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:52.320 would be a completely different reception. It's always the hardest 1:32:52.320 --> 1:32:54.920 when you're the first to say it, and people don't 1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:58.840 always move with the courage of their convictions. When we 1:32:58.920 --> 1:33:05.519 expect lions or hyenas to be lions, and you have 1:33:05.560 --> 1:33:06.840 to accept at the end of the day, people are 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:14.200 simply hyenas. That's an original Tiffany cross quote and trying 1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:17.960 to be aer But you know, I think a lot 1:33:18.040 --> 1:33:21.960 of people echo your concerns and I was really I 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:24.360 breathed the sigh of relief after you carry us through that, 1:33:24.479 --> 1:33:27.640 I'm like, who did he vote for? I'm so happy 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:30.720 that that you did. But there I'm torn. As a 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:34.879 black woman. I feel so overcome with joy and pride 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:38.519 when I pulled that lever, when I clicked her name, 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:44.280 and when I see her become president, I will just explode. 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:48.840 There is also my humanity, and I think about the 1:33:48.960 --> 1:33:51.519 fifty thousand plus because I don't believe the numbers that 1:33:51.520 --> 1:33:54.479 we're putting out. When you look at Western media, it's 1:33:54.479 --> 1:34:00.439 a very different story than what you see elsewhere. Fifty 1:34:00.520 --> 1:34:02.840 thousand people and we always say women and children, but 1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:06.599 men too, like their lives matter too. When we see 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:11.200 the devastation the raw devastation, and that we are supporting 1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:15.120 a government that is funding that. What would you say 1:34:15.160 --> 1:34:20.120 to people who feel so incredibly torn by our humanity 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:22.200 and also the history of this moment. 1:34:23.120 --> 1:34:25.639 I'm gonna tell you not to appeal to authority, which 1:34:25.640 --> 1:34:28.719 would be a logical fallacy university students, But I'm gonna 1:34:28.720 --> 1:34:32.000 say with Angela Davis told me, but I asked. She's 1:34:32.040 --> 1:34:34.200 been on this struggle a lot longer than I have 1:34:34.320 --> 1:34:36.240 even on this issue, and we were together maybe a 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:40.960 month ago in Chicago and we talked about it, and 1:34:41.120 --> 1:34:43.800 what she said to me is, and it's not the 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:45.600 first time someone has said this, but it hit me 1:34:45.640 --> 1:34:50.000 differently this time, is that we are voting for the 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:52.920 person who will give us the most terrain to fight. 1:34:54.200 --> 1:34:58.360 It's really that simple. I know what it's like to 1:34:58.439 --> 1:35:04.439 fight what's happening in Palestine under Trump. Trump. 1:35:05.640 --> 1:35:09.040 The moving the embassy the Jerusalem, the US embassy to 1:35:09.080 --> 1:35:13.240 Jerusalem is something that was actually signed under Clinton in 1:35:13.280 --> 1:35:17.200 the nineties, in ninety six, I believe ninety five. But 1:35:17.320 --> 1:35:20.400 every Democratic, every president, Republican Democrat, has punted on it. 1:35:20.439 --> 1:35:21.640 They just signed a waiver so they don't have to 1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:23.519 actually move it. Because nobody really wants to smoke. It 1:35:23.560 --> 1:35:25.240 was a class of Clinton. Move, get the credit for it, 1:35:25.240 --> 1:35:29.160 but then don't do it, so everybody happy, and every 1:35:29.360 --> 1:35:31.400 president has ignored it. Trump said no, no, no, I ain't 1:35:31.400 --> 1:35:35.240 signing nothing. Move the embassy, which is a Provac's illegal ad. 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:35.959 It's a provocation. 1:35:36.960 --> 1:35:39.960 UNRWA is the source of food, clothing, and shelter for 1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:46.120 most Palestinians. He cut all US funds to UNRWAH. 1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:47.519 For no. 1:35:48.280 --> 1:35:49.719 He didn't even pretend to give a reason. 1:35:52.439 --> 1:35:57.080 There's a cruelty to Trump that doesn't even allow him 1:35:57.080 --> 1:36:00.960 to be pushed or moved. I believe I'm gonna even 1:36:01.000 --> 1:36:05.599 say I know that Kamala Harris's decision about the vice 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:09.840 presidential choice was at least taking into consideration the voices 1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:11.639 of people on the ground, who, especially in this state, 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:13.640 who expressed their concerns about jos Shapiro. I don't know 1:36:13.640 --> 1:36:14.920 what she was gonna do. I'm not in her head, 1:36:15.240 --> 1:36:18.320 but I do know that they were listening. It's not 1:36:18.439 --> 1:36:21.120 much to just say we listen, but I do think 1:36:21.160 --> 1:36:25.879 it matters. I do think that a more humane position 1:36:26.280 --> 1:36:29.680 on Palestine matters, not because I think we're going to 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:31.720 vote our way whether the US is going to get 1:36:31.720 --> 1:36:35.680 religion and change on Israel Palestine right away. But it 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:37.880 is the difference between somebody living and somebody dying. And 1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:41.439 so what I say is, if you think I mean 1:36:42.520 --> 1:36:45.559 what Bobby Womack say, if you think you're lonely, now 1:36:46.880 --> 1:36:50.880 wait until tonight. You know what I'm saying. Like it's bad, 1:36:51.040 --> 1:36:53.200 but wait, let trump and see what it's gonna be. 1:36:53.200 --> 1:36:54.959 Even for the people who are the most vulnerable. 1:37:03.120 --> 1:37:05.880 Well come, well come, well come, well come, well come, come. 1:37:09.680 --> 1:37:13.000 We are I see the hands. We're gonna take a 1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:15.599 quick question. There are two questions we're gonna take. Uh, 1:37:15.760 --> 1:37:17.680 we're gonna take this sister here, first in the in 1:37:17.720 --> 1:37:20.080 the Burgundy that's the color that followed by the way, 1:37:20.080 --> 1:37:23.200 shout out to Burgundy. I'm gonna make sure I get 1:37:23.240 --> 1:37:26.080 y'all's predictions. And then we're gonna wrap because we apparently 1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:27.880 we're gonna run to this train and now looks like 1:37:27.920 --> 1:37:28.559 it's on time. 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:33.880 We yeah, I know, bye, y'all, I'm gonna meet you 1:37:33.920 --> 1:37:35.759 at That is so rude. 1:37:36.040 --> 1:37:36.840 You can't take the car. 1:37:36.920 --> 1:37:37.559 We shared a car. 1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:39.720 Car pull and say yes, ma'am, oh you. 1:37:39.640 --> 1:37:42.479 Need we got to We'll get We'll get you because 1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:43.599 we want to have a question too. 1:37:44.040 --> 1:37:47.000 Yeah, thank you so much. 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:50.080 I am Jenese Sis. I'm a senior here at Temple University. 1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:53.519 A journal is a major Afrocology and African American Studies minor. 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:56.880 I'm also the co president editor in chief of her campus, 1:37:56.880 --> 1:38:00.400 Temple if anybody wants to read. I had a question 1:38:00.600 --> 1:38:05.440 about mobilizing for the third party. I know, for myself 1:38:05.479 --> 1:38:09.080 and for many students, we have so much on our backs, 1:38:09.160 --> 1:38:11.839 you know, have to focus on so many different things. 1:38:12.000 --> 1:38:16.200 It's sometimes hard to know if there's another option, but 1:38:16.280 --> 1:38:20.280 we are all very dissatisfied with the two party system. 1:38:20.920 --> 1:38:23.679 I'm just asking, is there a suggested plan of action 1:38:24.280 --> 1:38:28.120 in order to mobilize people to understand who the third 1:38:28.120 --> 1:38:31.519 party option is if there's multiple fourth parties, but just 1:38:31.600 --> 1:38:34.120 any way to kind of get out of the confines 1:38:34.120 --> 1:38:35.600 of the two party system. 1:38:36.120 --> 1:38:41.000 Councilwoman Brooks sure, like we have maybe one second because 1:38:41.160 --> 1:38:42.680 I made I made a mistake. 1:38:42.439 --> 1:38:43.759 Zoe, can you stand for a moment. 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:46.880 So we're supposed to have another panelist and we got 1:38:46.920 --> 1:38:50.160 wrapped up in this and I completely forgot. But well, 1:38:50.280 --> 1:38:53.559 if you don't mind, the executive director of for US 1:38:53.640 --> 1:38:55.640 dot US, and I want to make sure you may 1:38:55.680 --> 1:38:57.800 even be able to answer part of this contextualize in 1:38:57.840 --> 1:38:59.839 some of the important work you all are doing around immigration. 1:39:01.400 --> 1:39:03.920 Thank you, it's been so nice to. 1:39:05.880 --> 1:39:07.280 It's been so nice to be here. 1:39:07.720 --> 1:39:10.400 I'll just say that, you know, I came today to 1:39:10.439 --> 1:39:13.760 talk a little bit about some of the work that 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:16.600 we've been doing, particularly around justice reform and trying to 1:39:16.600 --> 1:39:19.920 pull on criminal justice reform, because if you believe sort 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:22.759 of a lot of the punditry, they'll have you thinking 1:39:22.840 --> 1:39:25.519 that there was a bunch a big wave around justice 1:39:25.960 --> 1:39:28.840 and a big polanetization around justice, and then now we're 1:39:28.880 --> 1:39:32.479 having this big backlash around voters caring about this other 1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:35.120 issue that is safety. And what we see in the 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.519 polling time and again is that voters are smarter than 1:39:37.560 --> 1:39:41.080 that and have been informed by four decades of mass 1:39:41.120 --> 1:39:45.280 criminalization and mass incarceration. And you know, went into American 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.760 families and went into American adults that are going to 1:39:47.840 --> 1:39:51.000 vote tomorrow or have voted, have experienced incarceration and their 1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:54.000 immediate families, and I was moved, and many others were 1:39:54.000 --> 1:39:56.640 when mister Gillham, you talked about that when you were 1:39:56.680 --> 1:40:00.360 running for office, and so anyways, it's one examp of 1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:03.280 one issue. That is where we've been sort of forced 1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:05.840 into these binaries we've been talking about all evening and 1:40:05.880 --> 1:40:09.400 forced into false choices. But really voters are looking for 1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:13.240 different solutions and know that they can have different solutions 1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:16.160 on this one and many others. So thanks for giving 1:40:16.200 --> 1:40:17.880 me the mic for a second. 1:40:18.600 --> 1:40:18.960 Thank you. 1:40:22.160 --> 1:40:25.960 So okay, So, being like what we do here for 1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:30.960 Working Families Party, we do national mobilizations and your other 1:40:31.000 --> 1:40:34.000 students can get online and do our I think it's 1:40:34.080 --> 1:40:38.720 monthly calls with mobile around mobilization local here in Pennsylvania. 1:40:38.840 --> 1:40:41.439 We have our office at fifteenth and Ridge. 1:40:41.720 --> 1:40:45.760 We do several events, mainly focusing going young people. We've 1:40:45.800 --> 1:40:49.040 been doing like progressive young progressive folks meet up. I 1:40:49.080 --> 1:40:51.479 see some constant people in a room. So it makes 1:40:51.520 --> 1:40:53.639 me feel good that we're getting the work done. 1:40:53.680 --> 1:40:54.400 Our job is to. 1:40:54.360 --> 1:40:57.680 Make sure that you're connected to organizing tools right here 1:40:57.680 --> 1:41:00.479 in the city, whether it's issue based work was just 1:41:00.520 --> 1:41:03.800 a political landscape. Working Families Party has something to you. 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:05.679 I would encourage you go to our website and tap 1:41:05.720 --> 1:41:07.680 in and we can figure out exactly what it is 1:41:07.720 --> 1:41:10.040 that you want to do to get involved, because for us, 1:41:10.080 --> 1:41:11.720 mobilization is a personal thing. 1:41:12.160 --> 1:41:13.479 Like I'm not telling you what to do. 1:41:13.600 --> 1:41:15.840 It's you to come in and bring your own skill 1:41:15.880 --> 1:41:16.880 set to help us grow. 1:41:17.600 --> 1:41:19.800 Thank you. We got one more name and where you're from. 1:41:21.120 --> 1:41:25.000 My name is Lisa. I am a student here. I'm 1:41:25.080 --> 1:41:30.479 connected to the School of Social Work and ideal. My 1:41:30.640 --> 1:41:35.719 question is, uh, what would make a third party viable? 1:41:36.160 --> 1:41:42.160 And what about doing like a coalition with other parties 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:48.559 that may have the same ideals ultimately speaking to you know, 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:51.600 seek for the ultimate conclusion. 1:41:52.680 --> 1:41:53.040 Thank you. 1:41:53.840 --> 1:42:01.479 So just a few things we organize every sing in 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:04.760 order to expand the conditions for a third party. And 1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:07.160 some of those things aren't going to happen overnight, but 1:42:07.240 --> 1:42:10.479 we're in the courts, so that fusion voting, for example, 1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:14.160 which exists in Connecticut and New York, can be the 1:42:14.240 --> 1:42:17.120 law in more states which allows third party, our third 1:42:17.120 --> 1:42:19.920 parties to have ballid access in a way that doesn't 1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:23.400 get into that whole spoiler dilemma problem. So that's number one, 1:42:23.439 --> 1:42:25.960 it's a legal fix that we're trying to spread to 1:42:26.040 --> 1:42:31.000 more states. Number two, we're a non sectarian party interested 1:42:31.080 --> 1:42:33.920 in the interest of working people and so we build 1:42:34.040 --> 1:42:37.400 our party as a coalition party, So we build with 1:42:37.560 --> 1:42:43.600 labor unions and grassroots organizations, and we're truly a grassroots 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:46.760 democratic party. You all could know about the arguments that 1:42:46.800 --> 1:42:49.200 we have every single day on the local level about 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:51.679 who do we endorse and what direction do we take, 1:42:51.760 --> 1:42:54.559 and which piece of legislation on the state level. 1:42:54.520 --> 1:42:56.360 The local level we align with. 1:42:56.800 --> 1:43:01.360 So we're trying to demonstrate what that broad based sort 1:43:01.400 --> 1:43:05.280 of coalition looks like, where we're bringing in immigration organizations 1:43:05.280 --> 1:43:08.800 and organizations that are led by people who are returning citizens, 1:43:08.800 --> 1:43:12.240 and organizations that are led by the LGBTQ community, and 1:43:12.320 --> 1:43:16.760 organizations that have a different position, you know, on on 1:43:17.160 --> 1:43:20.240 the environment. We bring all of those folks together through 1:43:20.280 --> 1:43:22.880 the Working Families Party to be the electoral expression of 1:43:22.920 --> 1:43:24.920 a very very broad diverse movement. 1:43:25.520 --> 1:43:27.320 Thank you, Thank you guys so much. 1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:29.120 Yeah, Mo, you're in trouble. 1:43:29.160 --> 1:43:30.559 Mo, we heard we got you in trouble. 1:43:30.640 --> 1:43:34.320 You closing all Moe's on a time time frame. 1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:37.160 We think we're so thankful for Working Panils Party, our 1:43:37.200 --> 1:43:39.439 partner here, Kindred and Nick. We're grateful. 1:43:40.280 --> 1:43:40.479 Zoe. 1:43:40.600 --> 1:43:42.040 I want to bring you up really quick to give 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:44.080 us your prediction and close us. Now, we got to 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:44.920 wrap up this show. 1:43:45.160 --> 1:43:45.880 Come on real quick. 1:43:46.040 --> 1:43:48.599 Who do you think is going to win tomorrow? And 1:43:48.640 --> 1:43:50.760 what are the electoral college votes looking like? 1:43:50.800 --> 1:43:53.840 You go right there? I have no idea. 1:43:54.200 --> 1:43:58.519 I am concerned and I am I am extremely hopeful 1:43:59.320 --> 1:44:03.240 that we end up in a situation where we are 1:44:03.880 --> 1:44:06.680 able to organize the next president to do things like 1:44:07.120 --> 1:44:10.479 grant commutations, which we should also push President Biden to 1:44:10.479 --> 1:44:12.439 do and his lame duck, and that we are able 1:44:12.479 --> 1:44:15.880 to push the next president to you know, get the 1:44:15.920 --> 1:44:19.960 Sentencing Commission running and changing sentences. So I'm ready to 1:44:20.000 --> 1:44:22.040 move to policy, and I really hope that we're working 1:44:22.040 --> 1:44:24.160 with someone that will help us get there. I have 1:44:24.200 --> 1:44:27.600 my own personal ideas, but I'm non partisan professionally. 1:44:27.680 --> 1:44:29.559 So thank you. 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:31.920 And can we shout out to people who came from Jersey, 1:44:32.320 --> 1:44:35.280 Yeah to the Jersey fight. 1:44:35.439 --> 1:44:36.400 How are coming out? 1:44:36.600 --> 1:44:39.000 Thank you all so much. We know that there are 1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:41.519 so many things pressing on your time. 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:42.840 It is election eve. 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:45.680 If you haven't voted already, please make sure you go 1:44:45.720 --> 1:44:47.680 and pull the lever like our dear brother Mark la 1:44:47.720 --> 1:44:49.800 myt heil tomorrow. I don't know which camera I'm looking at, 1:44:50.040 --> 1:44:56.320 but we are closing out this show, this one. Thanks, welcome, Thanks, and. 1:44:56.240 --> 1:45:12.680 We don't mean to be Welcome y'all for. 1:45:12.760 --> 1:45:15.519 The last morning. 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