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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all, welcome home.

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Speaker 1: We are live from Temple University. We are at the

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Speaker 1: Anti Racism Center and we are a little late because

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Speaker 1: what happened was.

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Speaker 4: Angela could not put the bread down at the restaurant.

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Speaker 5: Oh, by Shane, You guys don't believe that.

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Speaker 1: Apparently someone has been feeding our eating off of misinformation

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Speaker 1: and has has suffered from these problems themselves.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's truly alternative fact.

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Speaker 1: We relate because one of us is directionally challenged and

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Speaker 1: we were given directions to the other side of campus.

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Speaker 1: So Temple, we thank y'all for being very patient with us.

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Speaker 1: We did follow the address, but we made it. We did,

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Speaker 1: we did, and we had an anti racist center and.

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Speaker 5: It says freedom. Now y'all see that freedom. Now, have

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Speaker 5: you guys resolved racism yet here? Okay, we're waiting.

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Speaker 1: Well, we do want to shout out Timothy Welbeck, who

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Speaker 1: is the director of the Anti Racism We.

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Speaker 5: Just get here.

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Speaker 1: Not only that he came to get us from outside

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Speaker 1: lost carried lost, and carried the boxes.

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Speaker 5: We were lost, but now we're found.

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Speaker 4: But more importantly, we're on the eve of what I

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Speaker 4: believe will be a historic event tomorrow. If we do

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Speaker 4: our black job, yeah, and if you're not, do the

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Speaker 4: white job job on behalf of black people on, behalf

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Speaker 4: of the country, and we vote, how do y'all feel

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Speaker 4: about tomorrow? By feeling like.

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Speaker 6: Y'all feel good?

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Speaker 5: I don't know that wasn't as enthusiastic. How y'all feeling?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 3: We gotta do something because I feel good and I

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Speaker 3: want to be around other people who feel good. And

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Speaker 3: if you're watching these polls, one say one thing in

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Speaker 3: the five minutes and say something else them so it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter, I don't. All we need to do is

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Speaker 3: do what we need to do. And if you arrive

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Speaker 3: with five like Andrew always reminds us, and bring people

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Speaker 3: to vote. I truly believe by sheer will of us

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Speaker 3: that this country. We have been trying to bend this

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Speaker 3: country to our will for four hundred years, and we

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Speaker 3: know what happens to things that don't bend right. So

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Speaker 3: tomorrow I believe we will elect Vice President Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: to President of.

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Speaker 6: The United States.

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Speaker 7: You're here.

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Speaker 5: I feel good. How you feel? I feel great?

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Speaker 1: Our podcasting godfather is here with us, Chris Morrow. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but he's not in the room because guess what, he's

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Speaker 1: lost too. So that's what I was just trying to address.

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Speaker 1: But we have a really jam packed show for y'all

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Speaker 1: and because we will be Oh hi, Prince L, I

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Speaker 1: just did I scare you?

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Speaker 1: Waving every buddy, Chris. We know you don't like people,

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Speaker 4: Chris, Chris Morrow, Angela Rye and Charlemagne the god Uh

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Speaker 5: So are you gonna polize?

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Speaker 6: Good to me?

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Speaker 4: No, you're just dramatic. You're being on display. Be on display.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: We do have a good show though today, some great

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Speaker 4: voices that you all will get to hear from. And

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Speaker 4: one of the things that I think we love about

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Speaker 4: the live shows is that it gives us an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to hear directly from you. So we have a roaming mic.

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Speaker 4: Is that right in the room?

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Speaker 5: Yes, we do, and we also have guests.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna Welcome to our conversation today from Temple University's

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Speaker 1: Black Law Students Association.

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Speaker 5: Sonya K.

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Speaker 1: Johnson, Hello, will join us. Hello, Hi, how you doing?

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Speaker 5: I'm good. How are you guys going to welcome us?

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Speaker 1: We say welcome home y'all at the beginning of our podcast.

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Speaker 5: You're gon welcome us.

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Speaker 6: Back, welcome home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you are, air girl. We gotta have some enthusiasms.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about tomorrow?

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Speaker 5: I'm definitely a little nervous.

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Speaker 8: I will say that I hope everybody made their their

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Speaker 8: right choices. But you know, it's it's a crucial election.

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Speaker 8: I think it's important for everybody to get out and vote.

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Speaker 8: We only got one day left and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, do you feel like we're gonna pull it off?

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Speaker 5: I think we're gonna pull it off.

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Speaker 4: I think are you're a president of the National Law

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Speaker 4: Schoodents Yeah association, Yeah, very good. Yeah, you're a Temple

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Speaker 4: And how many of your members are here with us?

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Speaker 5: Currently? All of our board is here.

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Speaker 4: They're right there right welcome me.

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Speaker 1: Board got out to my boss, so fam I love

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Speaker 1: to see it, love to see it. So we're also

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Speaker 1: at this time, we're gonna we're gonna keep you on

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Speaker 1: with us on you, but we're also gonna recognize and

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Speaker 1: welcome the executive director and CEO of the National Black

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Speaker 1: Justice Coalition, our dear brother, doctor David John and also

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Speaker 1: the vice president of Philadelphia Black Jason Bowman. And I

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Speaker 1: know y'all have seen these videos. Jason has been hit

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Speaker 1: these streets hard for out for Harris. He has been

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Speaker 1: making sure that the community is running these streets and getting.

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Speaker 5: Into the both voting booths. So welcome to both of you,

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Speaker 5: David and Jason.

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Speaker 9: Welcome to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home. Now your name is pronounced David Sean a

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Speaker 3: long long time and have known his work a long

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Speaker 3: long time.

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Speaker 5: How do you feel about tomorrow?

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Speaker 10: I'm excited.

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Speaker 11: The history of black people is that we thrive in

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Speaker 11: spite of so as long as white people do they

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Speaker 11: white job, we should be all right.

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Speaker 3: Well do you think they will specifically white women? Do

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Speaker 3: you think, because that's where this race hinges a lot. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I don't know, Jason, and you're just discussing us. I

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Speaker 11: don't trust white people. We have lots of reasons not to.

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Speaker 11: But what did harden me is that I got off

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Speaker 11: the train in Philadelphia a half hour ago a little

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Speaker 11: bit longer, traffic was a mess, and there was a

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Speaker 11: little white girl who ran from across the parking lotch

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Speaker 11: structure to say hello to me. And you know, w

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Speaker 11: what a little white girls run at you? You don't

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Speaker 11: really know. I'm six y five black men in America.

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Speaker 11: It could be questionable on a spot of the fact

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Speaker 11: that I taught elementary school. But she said to me

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Speaker 11: that she loved my sweater, and then after her mom

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Speaker 10: What you're doing.

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Speaker 11: And I thought to myself, four years ago, I don't

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Speaker 11: recall white person doing anything similar. Right, And so in

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Speaker 11: a world where there have been white women for lots

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Speaker 11: of talk around white women who have been modeling their

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Speaker 11: work after black women that we know in love like

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Speaker 11: Joe Tika Edie and Christina Q and women with black women,

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Speaker 11: I'm not really seen white women show up in the

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Speaker 11: way in which some of them are publicly. And so

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Speaker 11: my hope is that they've been talking to their friends

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Speaker 11: and their group chats and their book clubs, and that

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Speaker 11: they do their white job.

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Speaker 1: You guys could call so the election is tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: But if you could call it, how would you call

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Speaker 1: it and by how much? Like who's winning and by

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Speaker 1: how much and why?

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Speaker 12: I would say that Kamala wins by two hundred and

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Speaker 12: eighty three electoral votes is going to be close.

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Speaker 9: I do think that Trump is going to try to

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Speaker 9: I don't. I don't foresee that happening.

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Speaker 12: And I've been on the ground knocking doors for virtual

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Speaker 12: phone banking, having community engagement events, especially with the black

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Speaker 12: I know everybody.

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Speaker 9: Is fired up about Kamala. Fired up.

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Speaker 12: I will say that they kind of like waited a

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Speaker 12: little too long to activate these communities, but they were

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Speaker 12: definitely fired up.

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Speaker 9: So I think that she's going to win. But I

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Speaker 9: do think that it's going to be close.

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Speaker 12: Because what's concerning me is a lot of the suburbs

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Speaker 12: and a lot of you know, the other people that

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Speaker 12: are really like pro Trump. It really amazes me that

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Speaker 12: no matter what this man says, he can be disrespectful

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Speaker 12: to black women, he could be disrespectful to white women,

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Speaker 12: he could be disrespectful to immigrants. He can say that

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Speaker 12: we're eating our cats and dogs. I mean, this man

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Speaker 12: has no bounds, And the other day I saw him

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Speaker 12: actually giving oral to a microphone. So I mean, even

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Speaker 12: no matter what he does, they are still I'm voting

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Speaker 12: for Trump, which is crazy to me.

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Speaker 9: But here we are.

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Speaker 5: Here we are David Johns calling.

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Speaker 11: I would double tap that on Instagram, Um yeah, or

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Speaker 11: I still call it Twitter in spite of the fact

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Speaker 11: that that petulant child is trying to wreck it. And

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Speaker 11: I think similarly, I worry most about people who have

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Speaker 11: actually paying attention to what's available, and who simply are

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Speaker 11: not being honest. I'd rather have a black man tell

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Speaker 11: me that he's a misogynist or doesn't believe that a

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Speaker 10: Then they ain't got no plans for nothing.

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Speaker 11: And so part of this is I'd just rather let's

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Speaker 11: be honest about where we are so that we don't

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Speaker 11: the Bradley effect and all of these things that are

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Speaker 12: But you know, in the city Philadelphi, w what I

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Speaker 12: noticed when we were doing a lot of barbershop campussing.

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Speaker 12: And though there are some men black men that were

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Speaker 12: in barbershops that you know, are not really sold on

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Speaker 12: Kamala because of the misinformation about you know, how many

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Speaker 12: black men she left up.

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Speaker 9: For marijuana charges.

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Speaker 12: I've noticed that a lot a lot of black men

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Speaker 12: that I've had conversations with, they just don't vote. So

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Speaker 12: they say, oh, I'm voting for Trump, but they not

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Speaker 12: voting at all. So it ain't even about them saying

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Speaker 12: that they're gonna vote for Trump. Because even we just

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Speaker 12: saw walka Floka and somebody just outed him on Instagram

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Speaker 12: and showed that he has never voted in an election

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Speaker 12: at all, but yet he's endorsing Trump.

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Speaker 9: He probably ain't gonna vote. So stuff like.

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Speaker 12: That is concerning because I think a lot of people

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Speaker 12: have this messaging out there. They're like, oh, I'm voting

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Speaker 12: but Trump, but we don't want the couch to win neither.

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Speaker 12: So if you're watching this at home, it is your

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Speaker 12: civic duty to get off the couch and make sure

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Speaker 12: that you get out to vote Tomorrow morning. In the

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Speaker 12: state of Pennsylvania, the polls open at seven am. They

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Speaker 12: don't close until eight pm. Even if you're in line

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Speaker 12: at APM, stay in line. Make sure that your vote counts,

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Speaker 12: because like we've been doing all this, where we've been

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Speaker 12: having all these conversations, it cannot go and banging tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Let me okay, let me ask this because you brought

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Speaker 1: up barbershops, Jason, so I might at this point be

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Speaker 1: more triggered by the barbershop in Tiffany.

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Speaker 5: And that's hard.

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Speaker 12: It's funny I went yesterday and me and my Barbara

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Speaker 1: Uh, we will get that to you in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: So I want to just ask you what the role

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Speaker 1: Playing and making sure that democracy is preserved, which is

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Speaker 8: can have a lot of misinformation, but I also think

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Speaker 8: it can also be a crucial place to look for

446
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Speaker 8: information because I think there are a lot of people

447
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Speaker 8: that are showing that Trump isn't a good person. He

448
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Speaker 8: has racist ideologies, He's disrespecting a lot of people. And

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Speaker 8: I think that it's our job, especially in our organization,

450
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Speaker 8: to just be educating our members, our students, are anybody,

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Speaker 8: we can really our families, because I know there's a

452
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Speaker 8: lot of families where people don't see eye to eye,

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Speaker 8: especially when it comes to elections. And I think that's

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Speaker 8: just something that we need to It's a conversation that

455
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Speaker 8: we need to have and that we need to continue having.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: Say your name and where you're from.

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Speaker 6: Please Hi.

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Speaker 13: My name is Sauna Alone. I'm a junior here at

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Speaker 13: Temple University. I am a member of Alpha Phi Alpha

461
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Speaker 13: for Tunity in Cobawa.

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Speaker 14: And I'm and I'm throwing up gang signs in here.

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Speaker 5: Y'all going on talking about heard of people, I say,

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Speaker 5: color signs panel they're in your carry on.

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Speaker 13: But all that succeests as a African American man that

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Speaker 13: have a disability. Why is it I here talked about

467
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Speaker 13: every issue in the back community, but we don't talk

468
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Speaker 13: about back disable issue in the African American community. I

469
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Speaker 13: was told by a white teacher that college was not

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Speaker 13: for me. Here I am in college with a high GPA.

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Speaker 13: But but but where I don't understand. We talked about

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Speaker 13: the black boat, the black woman boat, the bad lgbtq abo,

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Speaker 13: what is amazing? We talked about all that, but we

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Speaker 13: don't talk about the black disable vote. And people like

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Speaker 13: myself of tire of being cheated ass she'd get past

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Speaker 13: citizens in America. So if y'all could just talk about

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Speaker 13: what we need to do as a community to uplift

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Speaker 13: the back disablable as well, so that more people like

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Speaker 13: myself can be a success story. They give for Carmen

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Speaker 13: and yes, I love that past.

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Speaker 9: Can I say something to that? Can I say something

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Speaker 9: to that? Can I respond to that? Thank you? I'm

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Speaker 9: trying to get emotional.

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Speaker 12: I'm talking because that's the reason why that this election

485
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Speaker 12: is so important to me. My mother was born with

486
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Speaker 12: spina bifita, which is a neurological disorder that affects the spine.

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Speaker 9: She was not supposed to live past the age of fourteen.

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Speaker 12: She went to Wider Memorial School, which is right behind

489
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Speaker 12: Girls High, and I watched my mother learn how to walk.

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Speaker 12: They told my mom that she was not going to

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Speaker 12: have any children. I was her miracle baby. After me,

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Speaker 12: she miscarried. After the miscarriage, she had my little brother,

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Speaker 12: and I watched her as a disabled American fight and

494
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Speaker 12: never give up and constantly make space to educate her

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Speaker 12: two black sons, and she adopted four girls because she

496
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Speaker 12: never had a girl that I was probably the closest

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Speaker 12: one to it.

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Speaker 9: But when you speak about well, I probably was. I

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Speaker 9: probably was.

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Speaker 12: But like hearing him say that, it's conversations that I

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Speaker 12: have with my mom, So it like kind of like

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Speaker 12: hit me some my core because like that's why, like

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Speaker 12: I do a lot of this work and the reason why,

504
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Speaker 12: you know, Magnavine, the disability of voices and magnifying black

505
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Speaker 12: career people was so important to me because I watched

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Speaker 12: my mom as a single mother raising us. I was

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Speaker 12: a latch key kid, you know. I was afforded the

508
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Speaker 12: opportunity to be a part of the segregation program, which

509
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Speaker 12: busts us from the projects to the Northeast area, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 12: so we can have a quality education. You know, she

511
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Speaker 12: sacrificed so many things for me, So like, thank you

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Speaker 12: for that, because you're absolutely right, we have to do that.

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Speaker 12: Are at making sure that we also speak to our

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Speaker 12: disabled community as well?

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Speaker 11: If I could jump in these double Dutch robes to

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Speaker 11: add two points. One is that words matter. And in

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Speaker 11: my previous intervention, I use the phrase my queerness is African.

518
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Speaker 11: Too often we conflate queerness to signal sexual minority status

519
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Speaker 11: or lgbtqia plus or ligabigg tiggers at lgbtquad, whatever, But

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Speaker 11: queerness refers to people who are not a position of

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Speaker 11: pejorative privilege or power. So most of us in this

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Speaker 11: room are queer people. Women in a society that says

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Speaker 11: men have.

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Speaker 10: Privilege, are queer.

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Speaker 11: People with disabilities in a space where we don't acknowledge

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Speaker 11: people with our disabilities, Our privileged are queer. And it's

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Speaker 11: often left to those of us who are queer to

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Speaker 11: do exactly what you did, which is to lift up

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Speaker 11: the consequences of white supremacy and what happens when we

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Speaker 11: don't think about intersectionality.

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Speaker 10: And so just to put a pin in this.

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Speaker 11: I often remind folks that black people, because of how

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Speaker 11: white supremacy work, are usually born with the disability, and

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Speaker 11: if we live long enough, we're going to grow into

535
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Speaker 11: having one right. And so this is why we need

536
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Speaker 11: to be having conversations at center all of the important

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Speaker 11: parts of who make us whole. Now, my frustration becomes

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Speaker 11: this in a practical do party system, Andrew and I

539
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Speaker 11: used to have some of these debates about scarcity, right,

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Speaker 11: which is often it's the responsibility of the.

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Speaker 10: Democratic Party or Democratic.

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Speaker 11: Representatives to speak to everybody because they're creating a large tent.

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Speaker 11: And in this moment, we don't have people who have

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Speaker 11: the same energy for whatever the policy issue that is

545
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Speaker 11: important to them for the people on the other side

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Speaker 11: of the aisle. And so in this moment, while there

547
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Speaker 11: are still some people who are debating, are thinking about

548
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Speaker 11: who they're going to vote with, my hope is that

549
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Speaker 11: people here my heart when I say voting ways that

550
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Speaker 11: will allow us to be more strategic and getting closer

551
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Speaker 11: to freedom. Right on the other side of this election

552
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Speaker 11: being decided, we can go back and have the policy

553
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Speaker 11: debates about what changes need to be made legislatively at

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Speaker 11: every level of government. To address the unique issues that

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Speaker 11: we have. But what I know is that my black

556
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Speaker 11: queer SAMs and her loving self cannot fathom surviving four

557
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Speaker 11: years under a fascist, white supremacist regime. And I hope

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Speaker 11: that that is clear isn't lost in us highlighting the

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Speaker 11: need to do more with regard to intersectionality.

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Speaker 3: I love your question, So I want to speak specifically

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Speaker 3: to the disability community because I think that's such a

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Speaker 3: huge issue that your one hundred percent right gets overlooked

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Speaker 3: so specifically to being black and disabled. I would echo

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Speaker 3: what David said that there has to be a policy

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Speaker 3: change at every level. And this was something that I

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Speaker 3: think many of us in our different professional backgrounds have

567
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Speaker 3: been confronted with and talked about. There was a social

568
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Speaker 3: experiment that made its way around the socials where there

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Speaker 3: was a white man who was blind and a black

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Speaker 3: man who was blind, and they were walking on the

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Speaker 3: streets of Florida and reached out for help, and every

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Speaker 3: time somebody was willing to hold that white man's hand,

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Speaker 3: when most people were coiled at the black man extending

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Speaker 3: his hand. And so I think in terms of just

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Speaker 3: the disability community as a whole, for sure, that's something

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Speaker 3: that needs to be talked about, but we cannot talk

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Speaker 3: about that without highlighting the wealth gap in this country

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Speaker 3: and who gets resources. It was much like this during

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Speaker 3: the Great Depression. We all were destitute, but there were

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Speaker 3: white families who were prioritized in a way, and I

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Speaker 3: imagine it's the same way for the black and disabled community.

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Speaker 3: I commend you for raising the issue, and I would

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Speaker 3: love we'll make sure our research and producer and everything

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Speaker 3: person lol follows up with you, because I would love

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Speaker 3: to hear from you three issues that you would like

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Speaker 3: to see raised on a national level, and we can

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Speaker 3: certainly commit to talking about those on our platform.

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Speaker 4: I would also say you are the best representative. I

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Speaker 4: was compelled by everything you had to say. I felt

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Speaker 4: your story. I applaud you not for having any sort

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Speaker 4: of disability, but I applaud you for being willing to

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Speaker 4: talk about out what's important to you. And a lot

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Speaker 4: of people shrink from that opportunity when they have it,

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Speaker 4: and you didn't shrink at all. So one, you've got

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Speaker 4: to continue to be on the front lines. The other

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Speaker 4: thought that I wanted to complete with something David said

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Speaker 4: around the scarcity debate that we often have and I

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Speaker 4: answered the gentleman in Atlanta the same way when he

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Speaker 4: bought up. We don't see heterosexual black men as a

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Speaker 4: priority in the Democratic Party unless you're gay. And my

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Speaker 4: point to him was, your beef isn't with black, queer

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Speaker 4: gay people. Your beef isn't with black women. Your beef

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Speaker 4: is it with any of those communities. That's what white

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Speaker 4: supremacy has done. It is he pitted us against each

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Speaker 4: other through again a mentality of scarcity, that there's only

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Speaker 4: so little and that we all have to hold as

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Speaker 4: much of that little that exists on the table, when

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Speaker 4: in fact, there are almost unlimited resources. If Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: can give the top one of Americans a tax break

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Speaker 4: that lands this country in its largest national debt in history,

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Speaker 4: then why are we fighting about whether or not we

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Speaker 4: can get resources to a community of disability to make

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Speaker 4: sure that the laws and statutes that exist on the

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Speaker 4: books are enforced at every level of government, from school

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Speaker 4: boards to municipalities, to counties to states, all the way

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Speaker 4: up to the federal level. Because in the grand scheme

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Speaker 4: of it, these would be these are pennies and truth

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Speaker 4: when you think about the scale of the federal government.

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Speaker 4: So I guess if there was a point that we

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Speaker 4: might take away on, it is that we all ought

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Speaker 4: to be fighting for what we need, not for what

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Speaker 4: they say is our little piece of the pie for

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Speaker 4: us to negotiate over, because that's a distraction. The pie

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Speaker 4: is all the pie, not the little piece that you

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Speaker 4: have aggregated or separated or told us that we're supposed

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Speaker 4: to fight over. But they keep us, they keep us

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Speaker 4: in the cycle of fighting each other over crumbs when

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Speaker 4: the pie is much bigger than that, and the pie

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Speaker 4: is all of ours. And I just I hope we

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Speaker 4: shrink from competition between one another on whether your life

631
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Speaker 4: ought to be protected as an LGBT person, whether laws

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Speaker 4: ought to exist for black women that they should be

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Speaker 4: able to work in a workplace and while doing the

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Speaker 4: same job that a man does as well, if not better,

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Speaker 4: that you're still being paid thirty cents on a dollar

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Speaker 4: in comparison. That's that's not right for any of us.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's kind of, at least for me,

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Speaker 4: where I feel like we ought to be turning our advocacy.

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Speaker 5: Jason will offer you, Oh sorry, no, I's said him downey.

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Speaker 1: Jason will offer you close The remarks we're gonna wrap

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Speaker 1: this panel, we're gonna get to an audience question and

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Speaker 1: bring on Earnest.

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Speaker 12: I just want to kind of like go back to

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Speaker 12: something Tiffany said really quickly and closing. When people always

645
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Speaker 12: say like, oh, they're pushing this LGBTQ agenda down my throat. Oh,

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Speaker 12: it's an agenda, it's an agenda. It's not an agenda.

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Speaker 12: We are asking for equality, that is, that is the we,

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Speaker 12: that is the agenda. But the way they make it

649
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Speaker 12: sound is almost as if like, oh, y'all keep trying

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Speaker 12: to push this gayness down my throat, like not realizing

651
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Speaker 12: that we're just fighting for equality, like we are fighting

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Speaker 12: for equal rights, We're fighting for representation. To me, the

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Speaker 12: fight for equality, the civil rights movment, it's like it's

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Speaker 12: our rights.

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Speaker 9: We need rights.

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Speaker 10: It's period and not just period.

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Speaker 9: Let's no, we're not just period, not experience. Let's just

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Speaker 9: do it.

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Speaker 11: Let's do it a different which is that children don't

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Speaker 11: ask to be born exactly right. One of my spirit

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Speaker 11: animals a god, not an animal person a sehiliar. The

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Speaker 11: sociologist said the following, I've never in my life met

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Speaker 11: a child, in particular a black child who is not

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Speaker 11: a genius, and there's no secret to how we support them.

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Speaker 11: We first acknowledge them as human and we second support

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Speaker 11: them with love. And the reality is that children, whether

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Speaker 11: they are marked by race, ethnicity, or sexual identity, often

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Speaker 11: don't ask to be born and then don't consent to

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Speaker 11: the politics that impact their lives in a measurable ways.

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Speaker 11: And today we still are not talking enough about the

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Speaker 11: fact that the suicide rate for black youth has doubled

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Speaker 11: over the last two decades. That data study I mentioned

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Speaker 11: the most compelling statistic to move black people was around

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Speaker 11: the suicidality for black.

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Speaker 10: Youth thirteen through twenty one. So many of them.

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Speaker 11: Are contemplating suicide because big ass bullies are passing laws

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Speaker 11: that are encouraging.

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Speaker 10: Them to commit genocide.

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Speaker 11: If you live in a space where you can't have

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Speaker 11: access to life saving at affirming care, where your parents

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Speaker 11: can go to jail for loving on you, where your

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Speaker 11: teachers can be arrested for teaching you that you are normal,

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Speaker 11: that you are not a bastardization that you deserve not

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Speaker 11: just to live, but to thrive. If those conditions are legislated,

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Speaker 11: the result is genocide.

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Speaker 10: And so if in this moment. You don't think that

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Speaker 10: I should.

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Speaker 11: Have the ability to have my nails as they always

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Speaker 11: are done, or the ability to live as freely as

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Speaker 11: our ancestors dreamed of our ability to do. I pray

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Speaker 11: that you are compelled by children who didn't consent to

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Speaker 11: any of this bullshit, who don't have the ability to vote,

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Speaker 11: do it for them.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jason Bowman, David john Saya, Madam President,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We're gonna take a quick audience question

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Speaker 1: if you have your hands that will take it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we see you. Let's pass that. Mike Lolo, say your

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Speaker 1: name and where you're from. And while you are asking

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Speaker 1: your question, we are going to bring up history walking history.

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Speaker 1: The speaker of the Pennsylvania House Representatives, our good friend,

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Speaker 1: Joanna McClinton, is here with us today.

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Speaker 15: Yes, sir, oh Minnie, my name is Shan Nuby, Jr.

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Speaker 15: I'm the vice president of Black Lawsuits Association here at Temple.

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Speaker 15: My question was relating back to what y'all just talked

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Speaker 15: about about how the disenfranchisement of the African Americans it

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Speaker 15: comes to Kama Harris's plan towards black men, and how

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Speaker 15: can she expand on that outside of like talking about

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Speaker 15: the issues with healthcare for us and only in those

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Speaker 15: spaces you guys touched a little bit earlier, how the

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Speaker 15: barbershops are place for us to decompress, and also things

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Speaker 15: in which where they can allow us to get out

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Speaker 15: loans to open up more businesses, because as you just

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Speaker 15: talked about, sir, the pie is not in our favor.

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Speaker 15: So I was wondering how you guys think she can

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Speaker 15: expand on that plan.

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Speaker 4: Well, one, thank you for the question, but the plan

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Speaker 4: is actually really expansive. And I don't know if any

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Speaker 4: of you all have another recollection, but I don't recall

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Speaker 4: ever a major party candidate ever presenting an agenda for

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Speaker 4: black men in the history of presidential races in the country.

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Speaker 4: The fact that Kamala Harris was bold enough to step

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Speaker 4: up there and say I have an agenda. She didn't

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Speaker 4: say for black women. She said I have an agenda

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Speaker 4: very specific specifically and particularly for black men. When Obama

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Speaker 4: always asked what his agenda was for the black community,

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Speaker 4: he said, my agenda for the black community is my

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Speaker 4: agenda for the American people. And some people cringe to

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Speaker 4: others were critical, But I don't think any of us

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Speaker 4: would argue that we didn't benefit from having expanded healthcare,

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Speaker 4: being able to see a doctor, many of us for

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Speaker 4: the first, you know, for the first time in our adulthood.

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Speaker 4: But the truth is is the reason why I think

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Speaker 4: we need agendas that are particular to our needs is

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Speaker 4: that black folks, particularly black men, are always at the

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Speaker 4: worst end of almost every single.

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Speaker 7: Statistic that we measure.

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Speaker 4: So unless the entire society is going to be impacted

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Speaker 4: at the same rate that we are, if their health

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Speaker 4: data reflects the same statistics that ours do, if their

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Speaker 4: education data, if their access to capital reflected that, that'd

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Speaker 4: be one thing, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 7: Ours is greater.

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Speaker 4: It is almost almost more significant and has detrimental impacts

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Speaker 4: on ours in our livelihoods. Which is why I think

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Speaker 4: her agenda really, really, it really pierced to me as

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Speaker 4: a study of history and also as a study an

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Speaker 4: example of courage. What she's offering as a relation to

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Speaker 4: small business, not only loans, but loans to them be

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Speaker 4: forgiven as grants for folks to start new businesses a

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Speaker 4: big deal. The credit that she's willing to offer for

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Speaker 4: families who have children who are between the ages of

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Speaker 4: zero and five who can't afford the cost of high

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Speaker 4: quality childcare. The fact that we're getting in a larger

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Speaker 4: inducement and added tax incentive in order to make sure

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Speaker 4: that our kids are ready by the age of five

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Speaker 4: when they enter kindergarten to read and excel just like

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Speaker 4: all other kids are. Her emphasis on health and men's

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Speaker 4: health is a particular import. Our life lines and life

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Speaker 4: spans are shorter because of the health outcomes and health implications.

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Speaker 4: So what I loved about it is that I thought

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Speaker 4: it was broad. Where we're really going to have to

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Speaker 4: come together is on helping her to get it done.

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Speaker 4: You can imagine if there's never been a black agenda

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Speaker 4: and a black male agenda before in this country, that

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Speaker 4: the US Senate, which is ninety eight out of one

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Speaker 4: hundred or nine ninety eight out one hundred white or

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Speaker 4: other than African American, only two blacks in the US Senate.

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Speaker 4: Only counting two, I'm sorry there is a third. He's

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Speaker 4: on the Republican.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, David is going to be a heckler.

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Speaker 4: David is deleting any self haters from the caucus. But

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Speaker 4: but that's where I think we're going to have to

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Speaker 4: really call our power together. Is that I can already

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Speaker 4: since once we get past this moment of unity where

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Speaker 4: Republicans and Democrats and white women and black women are

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Speaker 4: supporting Kamala Harris, that the next story that will be

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Speaker 4: written after she wins is a few months saying if

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Speaker 4: they give her that long, this isn't the president that

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Speaker 4: we thought we were getting. She's too liberal, she's not

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Speaker 4: working with Republicans, and it'll fall back to that same

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Speaker 4: refrain that I think politics always falls back into, and

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Speaker 4: we're going to have to have her back so that

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Speaker 4: she can deliver on our promises. That's my real fear.

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Speaker 4: It's not that we don't have an agenda, is that

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Speaker 4: that it'll fall flat in less way able to organize

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Speaker 4: and insisted it happened.

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Speaker 1: So before we go to Madame Speaker, I just want

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge two of our family members in the audience.

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Speaker 1: Quentin James has joined us, one of our partners from

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Speaker 1: Vote to Live, who will be joining the panel in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I also want to recognize I

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Speaker 1: didn't say right now, Lolo relaxed, she come around. I'm

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Speaker 1: just acknowledging our family. I said she came around and

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Speaker 1: not yet, we know we Madam Speaker is going to

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Speaker 1: have the floor. But also to me, a Booker, I

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Speaker 1: want you to stand yeah, sand sand Sand, y'all. I

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Speaker 1: want you to know I have known this sister. She's

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Speaker 1: a brilliant strategist. I've known her since she worked in

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's office on the Senate side and twenty years

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Speaker 1: ago almost and I've.

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Speaker 4: Known since she was a student in college.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, so here we go, see, here we go,

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Speaker 1: here we go?

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Speaker 5: Okay, well what else? Keep going?

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Speaker 4: She's bad and the room. The chief of staff for

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Speaker 4: uh US Senator Corey Booker out of New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Related that's not her cousin. They did not violate rules,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to. I wanted to shout her out.

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Speaker 1: You trumped me.

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Speaker 5: No pun intended on how long you've known her.

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Speaker 1: But I want you all to know that Tamiya is

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Speaker 1: not just a fan of the show and a support

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Speaker 1: of the show, but of all of us. And wanted

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Speaker 1: to make sure that we had some amazing guests on

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Speaker 1: the show tonight, and that started with Madam Speaker. So

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Speaker 1: I want to come to you. The question that they

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Speaker 1: did not answer on the last panel was what do

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Speaker 1: you think they're the the who's going to win tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: And what are the numbers like electoral college votes? Who's

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Speaker 1: winning in how many?

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Speaker 7: Well, good evening, but even welcome to Philly.

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Speaker 16: I'm so glad to see you all, and thank you

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Speaker 16: to doctor val for coordinating this. You are so glad

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Speaker 16: to be at the Center for Anti Racism. My first visit.

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Speaker 16: I come to North a lot, but you know, I

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Speaker 16: haven't been here, so I'm glad to be here this evening.

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Speaker 6: Proud of the work that Temple is doing, a long

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Speaker 6: my doing in the law. Classmate Tim year Over, thank

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Speaker 6: you for your work.

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Speaker 16: Here, Professor Tim, thank you for your work. Who's winning?

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Speaker 16: Kamala d Harris is winning? What are the electoral college numbers?

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Speaker 16: The winning number? You gotta put the map up. I mean,

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Speaker 16: I wasn't ready for that, Angela. You came in with

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Speaker 16: a heavy hitter. I need to see the map. But

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Speaker 16: you know, so.

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Speaker 1: Seventy anything higher, she's gonna win.

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Speaker 7: She's going to have at least two seventy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and she win in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 16: She's winning Pennsylvania right now. This is where the nation started,

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Speaker 16: and we're sticking on the right side of history.

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Speaker 5: All right, I love it.

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Speaker 4: Does anybody else suspect that while the polling loose closes,

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Speaker 4: anybody think that this may also be a blow away

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Speaker 4: on behalf of Kamala Harris, you think there may be

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Speaker 4: some a blowout, A blow away blowout, however you want.

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Speaker 7: To phrase it. I said a blow away.

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Speaker 1: Love, that's what you're doing with your hands to tip,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, next time we do a panel,

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Speaker 1: you're sitting to the right side of Andrew because I'm

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Speaker 1: ducking like.

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Speaker 4: I'm a sneaky suspicion that she's gonna blow past two seventy.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think there are people here who are not being

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Speaker 4: caught in the polling. I think there are states that

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Speaker 4: we are counting out. Uh And I think that there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of secret voting that's happening where people are

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Speaker 4: not necessarily disclosing who they're supporting. And when the final

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Speaker 4: analysis is done, I think we're gonna pick up states

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Speaker 4: that we didn't think we're gonna be in our column.

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Speaker 5: You know, I want to say something about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry one because I'd never like to make us invisible.

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Speaker 1: There is another sister that I should have recognized, and

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Speaker 1: we ran in here we had to go to the

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Speaker 1: bathroom wash our hands. It was doctor Valerie Harrison and

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Speaker 1: I talked about it to me, Joanna, thank you for

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Speaker 1: giving me my life together. We would not be here

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Speaker 1: today if it wasn't for you, Doctor Harrison. And Tim

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Speaker 1: got us together as well. He was directing me and

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Speaker 1: Tiff down the hallway like we were. We didn't stan him,

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Speaker 1: do I understand? But this way with the people so

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Speaker 1: they know, thank you, you appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for your work.

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Speaker 3: I want to say something about this idea about voting

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Speaker 3: in secret. What year are we in that women got

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Speaker 3: a hide from their husbands, not us, but the other

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Speaker 3: women got a hide from their husbands who they're voting for.

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Speaker 3: The vote is secret, Yeah, it's secret, but I don't

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Speaker 3: need my husband's permission to.

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Speaker 1: Or secret. There's a difference sacred and secret.

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Speaker 3: The dynamic that exists that you and it showed to me.

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Speaker 3: It highlights the clear divide between us and them sometimes

882
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: if you feel like you can't stand in your own conviction,

883
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: in your own home, and to me, there's an un

884
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: are lying envy in that that I want the same

885
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: power that my white man husband has, and so to

886
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Speaker 3: get that power. I will preserve his power in hopes

887
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Speaker 3: that one day he might extend it to me. That

888
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: is the clear divide between us and them.

889
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 4: The campaign was wrong to run the ads they did,

890
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: but I don't want you.

891
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Speaker 5: To start defending.

892
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 7: The last ads.

893
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: But essentially Julia Roberts is narrating this experience for two

894
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: white women go into the polling place with their husbands

895
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Speaker 4: to cast their ballots.

896
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Speaker 5: It's like away each other.

897
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Speaker 4: And have this sort of wink nod experience where like, girl,

898
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I know. They then uh, as they're leaving,

899
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: you know, we did the right thing. We voted for Trump.

900
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 4: And then there's an exchange that basically shows that they

901
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 4: voted for Harris, and the right wing went mayhem over

902
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: the last seventy two hours over these adswe the preacher

903
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: white men particularly, but there was also an ad that

904
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: they ran with two white men going in to vote.

905
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Speaker 4: They have a similar exchange and both of them vote

906
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Speaker 4: for Harris. However, there was no blowback about white men

907
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: in secret deciding they look at each other with a

908
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: weekend and the nod that yeah, we couldn't go with

909
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 4: that dude. We went with Harris. But in the case

910
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Speaker 4: of the women. There was intense blowback across Fox News

911
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 4: and every other right wing outlet.

912
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 5: How dare got us to be Handmaid's tail so bad?

913
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 16: Well, I think we don't recognize how culturally to your points,

914
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 16: if any people are, people are culturally different. And depending

915
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 16: on the type of community that you live in, I

916
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 16: always say, you know, I live in West Philly is

917
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 16: a big blue bastion of Democrats. There's some Republican neighbors,

918
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 16: but I don't see them with maga hats on, and

919
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 16: the same way I don't see my neighbors with maga

920
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 16: hats on. It's the same way in other communities. People

921
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Speaker 16: don't have on a Harris Wall shirt tonight and a

922
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 16: big button that says voting is my black job. But

923
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 16: that's okay because when you go into the ballot it

924
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 16: is both sacred and secret. And if it's both sacred

925
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 16: and secret, you shouldn't have to advertise, because if you

926
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 16: are going to run into something at work or at

927
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 16: your place of worship, you'd rather avoid. So you're not

928
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 16: going to tell everybody this is where I am and

929
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 16: this is where I line, because then the questions start

930
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Speaker 16: or what about this?

931
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 7: What about this?

932
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 16: Are you saying, you agree with everything that this person

933
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 16: and this candidate is for. Because the same way somebody

934
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 16: told me I was at an event yesterday, I'm for you,

935
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Speaker 16: but I'm voting for the other guy. I said, well,

936
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Speaker 16: you know he's not for you. He's not going to

937
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 16: tell your union that you should go on strike. He's

938
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 16: not going to tell megacorporation acts that they should pay

939
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 16: you fairly. He's never going to stand in the gap

940
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 16: for you. So how could you not be with her?

941
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 16: And he says something to be about an open primary.

942
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 16: I said, you're sure, that's it. You're sure you're not

943
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Speaker 16: voting for her because of a primary short that's the issue,

944
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Speaker 16: that's the reason. So it's different depending on where you're

945
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 16: from and where you live. And I was on an

946
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 16: interview last week with a group of women from all

947
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Speaker 16: across the nation, Oregon, Michigan again, their leaders in their

948
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 16: state houses and Senate, and we all talked about how

949
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Speaker 16: there are some women who do not talk openly about

950
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 16: being tired of the forty fifth president is nonsense, and

951
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 16: being tired of it means that they're not voting for

952
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Speaker 16: him again, even if they did in sixteen and twenty.

953
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 5: I want to go too.

954
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: You can ask your question, but I want to bring

955
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: up Quentin James, who's going to join us now from

956
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: Vote to Live. Also he's the founder and president of

957
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Collective Pact. Give our brother a round of applun the home.

958
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: And we also have gabriel Gabrielle Reid, who is the

959
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: president of Black Girls Vote here at Temple University joining

960
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: the panel.

961
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: T if you were about to ask a question, okay,

962
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: I'll tell you later.

963
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 5: Anyway, I right, last, all right, we're gonna get in

964
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: trouble with Andrews. Can we say? We can't say?

965
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: I phone was ringing it it read n DeSantis.

966
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: Give me the phone there, but let me call real

967
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: quick with me called back on.

968
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: The party anyway, Rondo Sanders was calling anyway, I have

969
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: a question for you.

970
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: But that's a distracting thing you show me. Rond de

971
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 5: Santa's calling it. But anyway, I have a question that

972
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 5: you should focus group.

973
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: I agree, Okay, the young man who asked about Vice

974
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: President Harris's plan, I think this is a great question

975
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: for you, Madam speaker, because what I was struck by

976
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: when I heard your question is something that I think

977
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: we assume a lot of people just understand how government works.

978
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: I assume you understand, but a lot of people out

979
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: there don't. And some people think that President elect Harris

980
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: is also State Rep. Harris is also city councilwoman Harris

981
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 3: is also school board president Harris and so I would

982
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: love for you to punctuate the role of state and

983
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 3: local government as it relates to getting the president's agenda done.

984
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: While we discussed calling Royan DeSantis back on the side, well.

985
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 16: While y'all call him, we're going to have this conversation.

986
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 16: And many times, even when people decide that they don't vote,

987
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 16: not interested in voting, it's because they think that one official,

988
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 16: the mayor, the mayor supples to solve every problem. Social

989
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 16: Security now that's a federal benefit. Unemployment now that's a

990
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 16: state benefit. But we think, well, I voted for this

991
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 16: woman from mayor, why hasn't everything been fixed immediately? So

992
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 16: our President elect Harris will have to have a Congress

993
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 16: that is willing to work with her to change policies.

994
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 16: The number of high school town halls I had in

995
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 16: September getting students to register the vote. Who said, oh, no,

996
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 16: the last president gave my mama a check. No, it

997
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 16: was the majority leader in the Senate, who at the

998
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 16: time was Chuck Schumer, and it was Madam Speaker in

999
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 16: Washington DC, MSS Pelosi that worked together to get your

1000
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 16: parents some benefits during the pandemic. Now, for whatever reason,

1001
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 16: the former president did and let the Secretary from Treasury

1002
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 16: sign it. He decided he wanted his name on it.

1003
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 16: So now people thinking that he was able to give

1004
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 16: them some money. He didn't give anybody anything. It took

1005
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 16: action from the lawmakers to do it. And in Harrisburg,

1006
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 16: the things that we oversee are paying for many public benefits,

1007
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 16: like public education. In Pennsylvania, that's a big bill we have.

1008
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 16: I was proud in our last budget to have the

1009
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 16: biggest investment thanks to my colleagues, finally into public schools,

1010
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 16: making them fair. For so long in pas you got

1011
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 16: to roll the dice on where you can afford to live,

1012
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 16: on what type of public school you can access. That's

1013
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 16: not all on Washington. A lot of that is on

1014
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 16: the state's responsibility. Similarly, we're in the city we live in.

1015
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 9: You know people talk about a pothole, Well, if it's a.

1016
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 16: City rule, we have to get downtown to get our

1017
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 16: city council mempus working on something like that, so all

1018
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 16: of us have a role to play. But people get

1019
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 16: disenchanted because they think that one time you voted for

1020
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 16: elected official.

1021
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: Why she was supposed to fix it all.

1022
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 6: And it doesn't work that way.

1023
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 16: It takes collaboration, partnership, even once you set in it

1024
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 16: ambitious agenda.

1025
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Now, speaking of collaboration, I want to go to the collective.

1026
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: It is you all that creates history makers and helps

1027
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: to blaze trails for history makers like Madam speaker right here,

1028
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you briefly quitting about what

1029
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: you see as our responsibility in the next twelve hours,

1030
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: right is what is our collective responsibility and call to

1031
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: action leading up to election day tomorrow.

1032
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 17: Well, first, good evening, Thank you all for having us Yes,

1033
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 17: give it up the temple. You all sent a good

1034
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 17: brother by the name of doctor Greg Carr to Howard

1035
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 17: University from this university. So he was my professor at Howard.

1036
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 17: I'm an African American Studi's major. So thank you officing

1037
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 17: him to us. The next twelve hours. What we got

1038
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 17: to do. We got some good news. Right, There's been

1039
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 17: a lot of talk around our black men go to

1040
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 17: show up. Our black girl's going to come out. What

1041
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 17: we know from the numbers, over two point seven million

1042
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 17: Black people have already vote voted early.

1043
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 6: In the battleground states.

1044
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 17: Right huge, give yourselves around replause. Anybody already vote, People

1045
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 17: already voted, I voted. So what we know is that,

1046
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 17: for instance, in Georgia, forty eight percent of all black

1047
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 17: women rights have.

1048
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 9: Already voted right.

1049
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 17: In North Carolina, over fifty percent of black women have

1050
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 17: already voted right. So we're heading towards a record breaking

1051
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 17: turnout tomorrow, at least from black women. We got to

1052
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 17: make sure the gap isn't too big with black men.

1053
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 17: But what we need to do we need to get

1054
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 17: everyone that we know out to the polls tomorrow. It

1055
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 17: is the job of the campaigns to convince them who

1056
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 17: to vote for. It is your job to try and

1057
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 17: get them to the polls. If you go on your

1058
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 17: phones real quick, put your phones out, go to rides

1059
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 17: to Vote dot com. We are offering people thirty dollars

1060
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 17: uber vouchers to get to and from the polls tomorrow,

1061
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 17: all across Pennsylvania, all across Maryland and Texas, in Wisconsin

1062
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 17: and Michigan and Georgia, North Carolina rides to vote dot com,

1063
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 17: put it on your social media, put it up there.

1064
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: We need people to go and vote.

1065
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 17: That's the biggest thing that we can do over the

1066
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 17: next twelve hours is turn our people out. I'm predicting

1067
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 17: that we're gonna have a really interesting surprise tomorrow, a

1068
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 17: surprise I think to Andrew's point, I think we're gonna

1069
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 17: see someone possibly get close to three hundred electoral votes.

1070
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 17: You know, we think about the polls and all the

1071
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 17: polls that you see, they're tight, one person's ahead by

1072
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 17: a point or two. The thing that you don't think

1073
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 17: about is those polls on average are about they say

1074
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 17: there's a margin of air about three to four points.

1075
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 17: And so imagine if some candidate has a little of

1076
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 17: a bit of a break three or four points in

1077
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 17: every single state, that could lead to someone winning the

1078
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 17: majority of the swing states. I think that will be

1079
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 17: Vice President Harris. I predict she will also get about

1080
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 17: fifty five percent of white women to support her tomorrow,

1081
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 17: which if she does again, she is going to be

1082
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 17: the president elect come Wednesday morning or Wednesday after noon.

1083
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: Quents a quick follow up and really for all of

1084
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: our guests. The election day voting results were folks who

1085
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: will show up on Tomorrow Tuesday and cast their ballots.

1086
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: And some states, obviously we've got early voting windows. Early

1087
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: vote typically with the exception of twenty twenty favors favors Republicans,

1088
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 4: and we think this year will be similar. Do you

1089
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: anticipate that the early vote, for instance, and Georgia comes

1090
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: out and those are the first numbers and they show

1091
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 4: Donald Trump with a substantial lead in early vote, do

1092
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 4: you think Donald Trump potentially goes out tomorrow eight nine

1093
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 4: o'clock in declares victory as the next president. You fear

1094
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: whether or not these earth And this is something I

1095
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: think all of us should really reckon with, is that

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Speaker 4: no matter what, the data as it comes in is

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Speaker 4: going to look very and skewed from point to point.

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Speaker 4: The reason why they want one day of only voting

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Speaker 4: with paper ballots and a result that evening is so

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Speaker 4: that the votes that came in via absentee or early

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Speaker 4: votes maybe or may not yet be factored into the

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Speaker 4: numbers when they are initially announced. Because these states all

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Speaker 4: have transparency rules, and as the numbers are counted, they're

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Speaker 4: to be posted and put out there that way, when

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Speaker 4: eleven o'clock and the numbers are looking more round it

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Speaker 4: and Kamala Harris has come back, then there is they

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Speaker 4: stole it from us. And if you fear that, what

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Speaker 4: do you think our best tactics are as a people

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Speaker 4: to sort of calm that? And what responsibility do you

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Speaker 4: think Kambala Harris may have to address that? If Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump preemptively declares victory.

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Speaker 16: Well he's shown us that he will lie and he

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Speaker 16: will try to steal an election. You know, when I

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Speaker 16: was little, my granny said, don't ever tell a lie

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Speaker 16: because the next temptation will be to steal something that's

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Speaker 16: not yours. He's to steal elections. He was on the

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Speaker 16: phone asking the governor to find votes. It's like, well,

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Speaker 16: when you find votes in Georgia, my friend, what's going

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Speaker 16: to happen in Pennsylvania? Because you already lost. We have

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Speaker 16: to recognize that people need to be patient. Democratic leaders

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Speaker 16: from across the nation are going to start hitting press

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Speaker 16: tomorrow night saying to count every vote, to let it

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Speaker 16: be a free and fair election, which is a blessing

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Speaker 16: that we should cherish that we've always had in this nation,

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Speaker 16: and that we're going to do that again and just pursue,

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Speaker 16: you know, shake off all ideas that anybody won yet,

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Speaker 16: because it will not be clear since we've gone into

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Speaker 16: the age where states allow for more ways for people

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Speaker 16: to vote. It's not twenty sixteen. We don't know Tuesday

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Speaker 16: night at midnight. We just don't like the time I

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Speaker 16: voted first time at LaSalle two thousand. Don't y'all laugh,

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Speaker 16: you were born, you know, I was sitting on my bed,

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Speaker 16: finger legs crossed, like, what's going on? What's happening? You

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Speaker 16: know who won? Because it was a time when you

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Speaker 16: just would know. But that is not the time. And

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Speaker 16: in Pennsylvania and our state House, we sent a bill

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Speaker 16: over to the Senate several months ago so that they

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Speaker 16: could even just organize the mail in ballots, not open

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Speaker 16: them and vote them yet, but just organize and sort them.

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Speaker 16: But they wouldn't, of course do that, because our state

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Speaker 16: senate's held by Republicans and they like the chaos.

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Speaker 5: Are you concerned about violence?

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, absolutely concerned about it and what people think about

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 16: when we think about January to sixth, we think people

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00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 16: from certain states came from the South to Washington, DC,

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Speaker 16: and not realizing that Pennsylvania had the highest number of

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Speaker 16: people arrested from and of course nobody was really arrested

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Speaker 16: that day, so they was going on looking on footage

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Speaker 16: find out who people were. Found Pelosi's computer in Harrisburg

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Speaker 16: with a twenty one year old. Yes, I'm very concerned

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Speaker 16: about it, but we are being vigilant to ask people

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Speaker 16: to be patient and most importantly, to recognize that the

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00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 16: process will not be finished until it's finished. We even

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Speaker 16: never had a stolen election, but we have had a

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Speaker 16: former president that tried to throw our votes out.

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Speaker 1: I want to you all come back to you, but Gaby,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your prediction first, and then I

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: want to hear from you on the very important role

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Speaker 1: that black girls, black women are playing in this election.

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Speaker 1: We know we're carrying this thing on our backs. How

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Speaker 1: much further do we have to go?

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Speaker 18: I would say we have some ways to go. We're

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Speaker 18: showing up and the youth vote is definitely counting as

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Speaker 18: us as college students, we're out there, we're getting the votes,

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Speaker 18: we're making sure people are registered to vote, and as

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Speaker 18: black women, we're showing up like this is the first

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Speaker 18: women president and she just so happens to be black.

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Speaker 18: So it's one of those things where we all have

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Speaker 18: to collectively come together and make sure that we are

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Speaker 18: showing out and to ensure that everyone's not like, oh

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Speaker 18: my goodness, it's a blowout.

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Speaker 5: It's this.

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Speaker 18: It's just remembering that a lot of the people who

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Speaker 18: are voting in this election, this is our first time voting,

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Speaker 18: Like this is it for us. This is a big

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Speaker 18: election and it's her story. So many college students are

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Speaker 18: coming out, those high school students who are old enough

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Speaker 18: or coming out. So just remembering that it's not just

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Speaker 18: the older generation going to the polls, it's us too.

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Speaker 18: So just remembering that and having that piece of information

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Speaker 18: with you, just stay calm and do your job, like

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Speaker 18: go to the polls, take a friend to the pulls,

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00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 18: make sure your kids are going to the polls after school.

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Speaker 18: Do your job, and make sure people are going to vote.

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Speaker 18: Because at the end of the day, if you fall

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Speaker 18: asleep tomorrow night and being like I register to vote

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Speaker 18: and I voted, then we're all good. So I think

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Speaker 18: that's what we really need to remember.

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Speaker 5: Here we go quick, we were going thin th business.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, I mean, I think I say this cautiously

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Speaker 17: but I say this realistically, I think we should expect

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump to come out tomorrow and say either he

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Speaker 17: won or that the election is being rigged or stolen.

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Speaker 17: That is their only defense. If you remember in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 17: there was one party calling for stage to stop count votes.

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Speaker 17: That was not the Democratic Party, that was the Republican Party,

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Speaker 17: and so we should expect that, but we should also

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Speaker 17: be patient. So we've talked to leaders in the different

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Speaker 17: states and just a quick rundown. So tomorrow, between seven

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Speaker 17: and ten PM on election night, we should have most

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Speaker 17: results from Georgia and North Carolina, but only partial results

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Speaker 17: from Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan as well. We also may have

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Speaker 17: near complete results from Virginia, Florida, Ohio, and Colorado. Between

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Speaker 17: ten PM and midnight, again we should have most results

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Speaker 17: from Georgia, North Carolina and also possibly Michigan, but again

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Speaker 17: only partial results from Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, and then initial

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Speaker 17: results from Nevada. Going from midnight to six am. This

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Speaker 17: is Wednesday morning, y'all, most results from Wisconsin and Michigan,

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Speaker 17: but again only partial results still from Pennsylvania, Arizona.

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Speaker 9: And Nevada.

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Speaker 17: So the idea that we're going to know the winner

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Speaker 17: tomorrow night. Is probably unlikely this will be going on

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Speaker 17: into Wednesday, and so remain patient.

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Speaker 9: Money.

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Speaker 7: Bet me some money, Bet you some money.

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Speaker 17: Yes, I mean, look, I said that she's gonna approach

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Speaker 17: three hundred Elexora votes. I think if we can call

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Speaker 17: Georgia and or North Carolina, then the game is over

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Speaker 17: tomorrow at by eleven o'clock possibly.

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Speaker 4: So. I think the one thing that just to all

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Speaker 4: of us should know is that one, it is always

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Speaker 4: taken three or four weeks for states to certify elections.

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Speaker 4: Those calls are not typically made by any state until

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Speaker 4: those certifications take place. Arizona in particular, Nevada another one

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Speaker 4: in particular, whose state laws are very you know, specific

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Speaker 4: about some of these things, will withhold, not withhold, they

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Speaker 4: will do their due diligence. Count votes are necessary, and

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Speaker 4: particularly those challenge ballots and states that are going to

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Speaker 4: be close, those challenge ballots have to be cured, which

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Speaker 4: requires a Republican and a Democrat sitting at the same

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Speaker 4: table and agreeing that a voter's intent is a voter's intent,

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Speaker 4: and that a voter's signature belongs to the voter who

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Speaker 4: casts that particular ballot. The reason why I think we

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Speaker 4: may be at a more predicted place tomorrow night is

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Speaker 4: there are certain counties in certain areas who will perform

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Speaker 4: certain ways, and depending upon how those places perform here

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Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania and Georgia and North Carolina, networks will begin

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Speaker 4: to start projecting who they believe the winners are. I

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Speaker 4: think an open question is whether or not how deep

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Speaker 4: Fox News is in the tank for Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 4: whether or not they will go contrary to the work

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Speaker 4: of most news organizations and start declaring states and putting

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Speaker 4: in a column for Donald Trump that he hasn't rightly

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Speaker 4: deserved yet. I don't fear that for Kamala Harris, because

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Speaker 4: I think most networks are pretty cautious before they put

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Speaker 4: a state on a column. But in addition to Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump claiming victory, my concern is that some of the networks,

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Speaker 4: who again get out there before votes are certified, before

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Speaker 4: elections are certified, they make a claim on a state,

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Speaker 4: thereby creating even more tension and fewer in the possibility.

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Speaker 4: I think for violence as hard when somebody says a

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Speaker 4: state went for Donald Trump, and then the next morning

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Speaker 4: you woke up and it was taken from him. Well,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't taken from him. All of those weren't county.

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Speaker 4: Y'all jumped the gun, right. Nobody's won that state yet.

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Speaker 4: The vote hasn't been certified.

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Speaker 17: But I don't I don't think Fox News will do

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Speaker 17: that simply because of the dominion lawsuit they did that.

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Speaker 4: They have a track.

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Speaker 9: Record of being sued.

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Speaker 4: But their track record was about lying on a certain

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Speaker 4: company and that company faking or manipulating the vote count correct.

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Speaker 4: Declaring a winner isn't the same thing as as as

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Speaker 4: besmerging a company's name and having to pay life.

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Speaker 3: Can you get in the first Amendment issue so that

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Speaker 3: the same danger of lawsuits doesn't necessary early apply. I

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Speaker 3: would not be so confident about Fox News doing that.

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Speaker 5: Never, not once. But here's what I am confident about.

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Speaker 1: Time is ticking. This panel has been amazing and we

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Speaker 1: are going to give them around a cause. For those

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Speaker 1: with you watching at home, know that Q James will

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Speaker 1: join us again tomorrow Election Night Live from Howard University

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Speaker 1: the Meta. But please give a red applause again to her,

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Speaker 1: Madam Speaker, Join a McClinton.

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Speaker 5: Away for joining.

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Speaker 1: And next up we have a working family's agender partner

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Speaker 1: from Working Families Party, Party national director Maurice Mitchell, council

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Speaker 1: Member Kendra Brooks and council Member Nicholas Rourk will now

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Speaker 1: join us if around our party.

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Speaker 5: Be live on camera, I have a seat.

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Speaker 1: We love you, mokaya all right, to make sure you

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Speaker 1: get all your time, y'all.

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Speaker 7: Lest we think about the threat of again elections.

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Speaker 1: You really look like the Praise team right now that

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Speaker 1: hold on, look at this, we really do. We got

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Speaker 1: the ten direct it okay sign but I just you

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Speaker 1: know we do.

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Speaker 4: You curve frankly.

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Speaker 7: And everybody else.

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Speaker 4: What responsibility do political parties that are not the majority

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Speaker 4: parties Democratic or Republican, as well as C three C

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Speaker 4: four organizations who have been working on behalf of turning

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Speaker 4: out voters? What responsibility do you all feel you have

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Speaker 4: tomorrow and then in the days after to ensure that

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Speaker 4: we've got not just a fair election, but that we

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Speaker 4: don't jump the gun and find ourselves in a situation

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Speaker 4: where democracy really feels at stake and it becomes something physical.

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Speaker 4: What responsibility do you all think you all have in

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Speaker 4: that situation?

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Speaker 19: Our number one responsibility always is to tell the truth, right,

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Speaker 19: That's our number one responsibility, and it's hard to know.

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Speaker 6: And also.

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Speaker 19: Happy Election daye if everybody. So we don't know what's

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Speaker 19: going to happen, but we do know that Donald Trump

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Speaker 19: and the MAGA movement will engage in some shenanigans, right.

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Speaker 19: And I remember in twenty twenty. I remember when at

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Speaker 19: the Convention Center in Philadelphia they were counting votes and

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Speaker 19: Rudy Giuliani wanted to come and hold a press conference

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Speaker 19: in order to kind of drum up the stop the

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Speaker 19: Steel energy in Philly. But he don't know about Philly, right,

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Speaker 19: and he found out, So, you know, Nicholas and Kendra

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Speaker 19: and a lot of the folks in the community turned

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Speaker 19: that space into a Party for Democracy and shut that down,

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Speaker 19: shut the Stop the Spiel movement down in Philly, and

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Speaker 19: instead we basically celebrated our democracy. So to me, we

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Speaker 19: have a duty to when the dust is settled and

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Speaker 19: the days and weeks after, we know that there's going

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Speaker 19: to be a lot of noise to be able to

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Speaker 19: communicate to the people that we have influence over that

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Speaker 19: we got us, that the processes of our democracy are

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Speaker 19: fear and that we need to make sure that every

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Speaker 19: vote is counted.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you. I want to hear from the other

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Speaker 4: two of you, but you gave an important example of

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Speaker 4: one that I just wanted to illuminate as well. In

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Speaker 4: Florida in two thousand and the Bush be scenario, it

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Speaker 4: was outside groups, not necessarily political parties, but also staff

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Speaker 4: who were flown in bust in to certain precincts where

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Speaker 4: they knew that the vote count and those precincts where

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Speaker 4: those ballots fully counted would result in black They were

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Speaker 4: largely black precincts, and I watched as many community groups

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Speaker 4: and community leaders shrink from the moment of standing up

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Speaker 4: for democracy because the other side was so violent, so loud,

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Speaker 4: so agitating and antagonizing. And it's the reason why I

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Speaker 4: wanted to know how U all's organizations are sort of

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Speaker 4: prepared or thinking about that, because I don't think any

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Speaker 4: of us can put it beyond the pale that should

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Speaker 4: they show up at precincts and counting locations, that the

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Speaker 4: votes they're going to want to shut down first will

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Speaker 4: be amongst the folks who are estimated to vote almost

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Speaker 4: ninety percent for their opponent, which means they'll be in

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Speaker 4: black neighborhoods, younger college campuses and an effort to shut

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Speaker 4: down the ability to count every vote.

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Speaker 6: Oh oh, they're saying the quiet part out loud.

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Speaker 19: They are saying what they plan on doing, right, They

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Speaker 19: want to call the election even before we've counted all

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Speaker 19: the votes, which is why it's important for us to

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Speaker 19: understand the assignment.

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Speaker 20: I would just say that one of the things that

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Speaker 20: we were trying to be intentional in doing in the

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Speaker 20: midst of the lockdowns when the twenty twenty election was

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Speaker 20: going forward was returning a sense of joy in the

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Speaker 20: act of this wholest election system.

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Speaker 4: Actually, the whole movement joye of the polls was kind of.

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Speaker 20: Burfed out of the party that was set up at

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Speaker 20: that convention center to push back against the negative energy

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Speaker 20: that many folks were feeling, all the anxiety that folks

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Speaker 20: were dealing with in the midst of it all, and

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Speaker 20: using joy as a resistance tactic to and also to

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Speaker 20: kind of booy the spirit in pushing back. It also

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Speaker 20: continues to be something that folks do. It's now kind

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Speaker 20: of spread. You now have DJ at the Polsy, you

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Speaker 20: have all these other means by which people are bringing

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Speaker 20: celebration and a spirit of festivity to that space, and

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Speaker 20: it diffuses a bit some of the tension that happens

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Speaker 20: at that space, and so as you have seen it

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Speaker 20: now has kind of gone national or what have you.

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Speaker 20: And that's one of the things that we continue to

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Speaker 20: prioritize in this work.

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Speaker 14: And I just want to add that we organize like

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Speaker 14: we are all organizers, So we organize not just at

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Speaker 14: election time.

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Speaker 5: This is an ongoing process.

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Speaker 14: So whatever happens on election day, we still have a

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Speaker 14: commitment to our community to build and grow because the

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Speaker 14: way we win election after election is by building this

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Speaker 14: movement and growing our base. So our commitment is always

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Speaker 14: going to be first to grassroots movement, our organizers, and

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Speaker 14: our communities to build and grow from every moment.

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Speaker 19: And that's the difference between a third party movement that's

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Speaker 19: actually on these streets versus third party movements that parachute

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Speaker 19: every four years with us a.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, Okay, I want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So on that point, there are a lot of folks

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Speaker 1: that here wishless and pie in the sky agendas from

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Speaker 1: third party candidates, and you guys are very serious about

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Speaker 1: organizing all the way down ballot. Can you talk about

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Speaker 1: what the role of the Working Families Party is in

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Speaker 1: this election, where do you all stand in the presidential

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Speaker 1: election and then down ballot?

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Speaker 19: Sure, well, the Working Families Party every and we've been

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Speaker 19: around for twenty six years, so every single election year

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Speaker 19: we're making close to one thousand endorsements. This election year

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Speaker 19: we have seven hundred and fifty close so seven hundred

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Speaker 19: and fifty endorse candidates. That means that in California we

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Speaker 19: have one hundred and thirty four candidates that we've endorsed

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Speaker 19: on the municipal level, on the state level as well,

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Speaker 19: at the top of the ticket in Georgia, in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 19: So we're concerned with the state house because that's where

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Speaker 19: the laws get made. Right, If you actually are serious

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Speaker 19: about policies, policies that will actually make a difference in

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Speaker 19: your lives, then you have to be focused on where

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 19: the laws get made in city councils, which is why

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Speaker 19: I'm so proud that in the city of Philadelphia it's

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Speaker 19: a two party city, Working Families and Democrats right or

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Speaker 19: in state houses or in Congress, which means you have

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Speaker 19: to care about the down ballot races.

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Speaker 6: And political parties.

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Speaker 19: Political parties if you're to take them seriously, are not

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Speaker 19: just about winning elections.

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Speaker 6: They're about governing.

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Speaker 19: And the real governing happens in those legislative bodies.

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Speaker 6: So if you only hear.

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Speaker 19: A political party talk about their presidential candidate every four years,

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Speaker 19: it might mean they're not serious about governing, right, and

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Speaker 19: governing is actually how we deliver. And I'd love for Nick,

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Speaker 19: who you just got your first bill passed, right, and

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Speaker 19: Kendra to talk about these cow crete victories that they

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Speaker 19: worked day and night with our coalition to pass through

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Speaker 19: Philly City Council, because these are transformative.

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Speaker 20: Peter Brooks, you want to start first, Okay, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 20: very well, thank you very much for saying that. I

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Speaker 20: am pretty proud of our staff and our team who

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 20: helped put together our first bill passed with an overwhelming

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Speaker 20: support from our colleagues to ban algorithmic rental price fixing.

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Speaker 20: There is we are in Philadelphia every election cycle, we're

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Speaker 20: reminded over and over again that we're the poorest big

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Speaker 20: city in the USA about nearly fifty some forty percent

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Speaker 20: of the residents of the city, meaning almost every other

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Speaker 20: person you see as a renter. And you already heard

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 20: the folks up in New York talk about the rent

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Speaker 20: being too damn high.

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Speaker 9: It's too high here too, and so how.

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Speaker 20: Do we govern in a way that protects tenants here

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Speaker 20: in the city of Philadelphia. As the folks say, all

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Speaker 20: politics is local. I heard someone say recently, if it is,

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Speaker 20: if all politics are local, then all local politics is housing,

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Speaker 20: because that's one of the material ways by which we're

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Speaker 20: able to secure people and create safety, and and and

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Speaker 20: and also build from there. So we're super proud to

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Speaker 20: be able to go ahead and put forward something that's

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Speaker 20: going to help materially protect the lives of almost half

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Speaker 20: the city or at least have shelter over their heads.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Okay, So I wanted to address this third party issue,

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Speaker 1: but one more just to like double click on this

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Speaker 1: and get even closer to the point. For the presidential candidate,

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01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, the options that you have. Did you all

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Speaker 1: choose a candidate?

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Speaker 19: Yes, we did, and I want to tell you why.

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Speaker 1: I want to know who it is.

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Speaker 19: Okay, Okay, So the Working Families Party endor endorsed Kamala

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Speaker 19: Harris and Tim.

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Speaker 1: Walls for all the third party candidates watching.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 6: Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 19: And we're independent, So I'm not a Democrat, all right,

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 19: I'm proudly an independent person who's building an independent third

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01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 19: party from the ground up. Right, So we're not we're

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Speaker 19: not democrats and sense we're independence. We're building independent power.

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Speaker 19: And like I said before, our job is to tell

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Speaker 19: the truth. Building a serious third party in this country

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Speaker 19: that has such a rigid two party system is not easy.

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Speaker 6: Serious, it is not easy.

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Speaker 19: Look, Rothbaro couldn't do with all of his money in

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Speaker 19: nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 6: It is not easy.

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Speaker 19: But we've learned the art of doing it right, and

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Speaker 19: we have the receipts to prove that it can be done,

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Speaker 19: not just in this city, but now in twenty states

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Speaker 19: around the country. We're building it and we're securing concrete victories.

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Speaker 6: Like we're talking about here.

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Speaker 19: We could not see based on the power that we

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Speaker 19: currently had, and we currently are building a path for

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Speaker 19: us to run our own person at the top of

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Speaker 19: the ticket number one.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 19: So being an organizer is being honest with your people

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Speaker 19: about the power that you have and the power that

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Speaker 19: you need.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 19: And math right, Oh, Also, I mean the other thing

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Speaker 19: is that you know so it's basic math. It's basic math.

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Speaker 19: The math does not math for a independent third party,

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Speaker 19: based on the current rules to win the electoral college

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Speaker 19: two hundred and seventy electoral college votes to win the presidency.

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Speaker 19: So also, we are in a historic moment where if

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Speaker 19: the hate rally at MSG didn't let you know, we're

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Speaker 19: dealing with a hate movement, a fascist movement, an authoritarian movement,

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Speaker 19: and so that contrast couldn't be more clear for us.

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Speaker 19: So this is a five alarm fire for our democracy.

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Speaker 19: We as an independent third party, understood what time it was,

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Speaker 19: and we felt it was our duty to communicate to

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Speaker 19: all the people that entrust in us their political decisions,

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Speaker 19: to say with our full chest that we've endorsed Kamala

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Speaker 19: Harrison Tim Walls so that we could have more space

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Speaker 19: to do the organizing that we've been doing right now.

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Speaker 19: We don't believe that any politician is going to save

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Speaker 19: us right Our belief is in organizing in our people,

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 19: and we believe in this binary choice that there's one

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Speaker 19: choice that gives us more space to organize, and there's

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Speaker 19: another choice that gives us less space. And it isn't theoretical.

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 19: There's one side that's talking about deporting protesters. There's one

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01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 19: side that's talking about rounding up their political opponents. And

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01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 19: so it is actually for us not a hard decision, right,

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Speaker 19: which is why.

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Speaker 6: We don't shrink.

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Speaker 19: We're clear when we make endorsements, we say it with

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Speaker 19: a full chest, and we could stand on twenty six

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 19: plus years of organizing and doing work on local communities

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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 19: to validate that when we say this, we mean it.

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Speaker 5: I want to.

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Speaker 3: Stick with this third party issue because I think this

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Speaker 3: is something that came up a lot this year, particularly

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 3: around a lot of people. When it was Joe Biden

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01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 3: on the ticket, there were a lot of people who

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01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 3: felt not enthusiastic about either person. We did an episode.

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Speaker 3: I encourage you guys to all check it out. We

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Speaker 3: did a full conversation on third party candidates and what

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Speaker 3: that means, and I think we should have an intellectual

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 3: conversation around third parties. A two party system has not

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,839
Speaker 3: served our community and arguably it has not served anyone.

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Speaker 3: It has not served the country, and as we start

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Speaker 3: to reimagine what democracy could and should look like, I

1527
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 3: don't think we should dismiss third parties. Like the work

1528
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 3: you're doing, it's important that you punctuate the point it's

1529
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 3: taken twenty six years to build this. The challenge is

1530
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: a lot of people who champion a third party. The

1531
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 3: presidential race is very seductive, but when you think about it,

1532
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 3: there are plenty. There's a plethora of third party candidates

1533
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 3: who've been victorious across this country at the state and

1534
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 3: local level. That is where you can start to make

1535
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 3: a difference. So I don't want to discourage people who

1536
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 3: are out there who feel this way. We acknowledge that.

1537
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: Angela and I frequently say we are not mouthpieces for

1538
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party. They don't call and ask us for

1539
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: too much because we are critical. We understand racism, like

1540
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: we've said, is a bipartisan challenge, but there is a pathway.

1541
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 5: To victory for third party candidates.

1542
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: So I think it's important the story that you just

1543
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: told about the work that you do, that that work

1544
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 3: happens at the grassroots level.

1545
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 5: So thank you for that.

1546
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1547
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 4: I would also say, we got to be honest about

1548
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 4: the limitations at the federal level, which is why I

1549
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 4: appreciate I was honored to get the endorsement of the

1550
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,440
Speaker 4: Working Families Party in Florida.

1551
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: Say which full chance Andrew this.

1552
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 4: This is the worst part about it is that from

1553
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 4: the Constitution of the United States to the effectuating statutes

1554
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 4: and laws that have been passed ever since, they exist

1555
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 4: only to prop up the two party systems. Dollars come

1556
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 4: from the federal government to support the Democratic Party and

1557
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 4: the Republican Party. It finds every way possible under the

1558
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 4: laws and constructs that it's created to keep third parties

1559
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 4: out of the game, to ensure that that your negotiation

1560
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 4: is always one between which one will create a better

1561
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 4: organizing environment for you, rather than you setting the tone

1562
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 4: of what that organizing environment will be by being the

1563
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 4: party that wins. And so I think one of the

1564
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: things that I think we're all challenged to do is

1565
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 4: we reimagine the kind of government that would be reflective

1566
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,959
Speaker 4: of us rather than of power structures and power structures

1567
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 4: specifically that don't serve us. Is how we can get

1568
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: serious about organizing at a level where we can then

1569
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 4: put people in positions from states legislative races to congressional

1570
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 4: races and our forward that will pass laws or at

1571
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 4: least uncouple the stranglehold that our current laws have to

1572
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 4: prop up only to political parties in America.

1573
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 7: Unless that system gets leveled.

1574
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 4: There's no chance at a third party competing at the

1575
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 4: and no amount of money will make the difference in

1576
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 4: that when the laws are on the books specifically to

1577
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 4: keep a third party out, you gotta have so many

1578
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 4: many people in a state, you gotta have so many

1579
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 4: votes from so many people in that particular congressional district,

1580
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 4: so on and so forth, and so I applaud with

1581
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 4: y'all are doing. It is the long work, and it's

1582
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: the hard work. But we all have to be enlisted

1583
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 4: if we're serious about wanting to level the system as

1584
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,879
Speaker 4: that he just today and opening I think our investment

1585
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 4: and groups like Working Family Party.

1586
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: We can't have a conversation about third parties without bringing

1587
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 1: on our dear brother and friend, Professor Mark Lamont Hill,

1588
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: who's here. Mark, I'm gonna give you my seat and

1589
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the float to mic because I want

1590
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: you to be a part of this conversation in this panel.

1591
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 5: Give them where I'm call.

1592
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you all want to know you.

1593
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 21: Picked to day to have the accident of all accidents.

1594
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 21: So I spent the last hour running back and forth

1595
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 21: to the car, to the stove, to the blowout.

1596
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 5: Oh that kind of blowout.

1597
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he fine, I'm not.

1598
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 5: Traumatizic.

1599
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 16: Well.

1600
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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring Mark up for this moment for

1601
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One is, I think the biggest

1602
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: argument we've ever had is centered around twenty sixteen, and

1603
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 1: I think what is not fair is that you've, although

1604
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: you've tried several times to articulate the nuance of your position,

1605
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: it's something that continues to come back. And I think

1606
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 1: that this year in particular, given all that's going on,

1607
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: given your advocacy around Gaza and your own experience there,

1608
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: it's a critical election and you've made a really significant

1609
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: choice about what you're going to do this year, and

1610
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: i'd love for you to talk about, you know, what

1611
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: the considerations were and how you got there.

1612
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 21: Yeah, thank you for that. It's been a heck of

1613
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 21: a journey. And it's good to see everybody too, So

1614
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 21: good to see everybody. Most of y'all only see online,

1615
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 21: so it's good to be in person and community with everybody.

1616
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 21: I've been a Green Party member since.

1617
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 6: Twenty five years now.

1618
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 21: And I remain one a very proud Green Party member,

1619
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 21: despite my frustrations at times, and over that time, I

1620
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 21: have consistently, with one exception, voted Green and the reason

1621
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 21: why I vote Green is because I do believe in

1622
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 21: the need for a third party. And I think I

1623
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 21: didn't hear what y'all were just talking about, but I

1624
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 21: heard the end of it, and I think we have

1625
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 21: to create the conditions for a third party.

1626
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 6: And I think that as long as we believe that

1627
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 6: there are.

1628
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 21: There's only two options, and it's the lesser of two

1629
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 21: evils is our only option, and the evil is always

1630
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 21: going to be the outcome that we're going to get.

1631
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 21: And so we always have to be mindful of how

1632
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 21: we can push Democrats to the left, how we can

1633
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 21: imagine new political possibilities so we don't stay locked in

1634
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 21: the same frameworks. And so for me, that has meant

1635
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 21: voting Green, not because I think Jill Stein was gonna

1636
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 21: be president.

1637
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if i'd be happy.

1638
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 21: I think I would not be happy if Jill Stein

1639
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 21: were a president as a practical matter, but I'd be

1640
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 21: happy if the Green Party were able to build and

1641
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 21: organize and if we were able to get five percent

1642
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 21: of the vote, we were able to we would be

1643
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 21: able to get enough funding in order to have a

1644
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 21: more competitive race the next time around, not just for

1645
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 21: the presidency, which we ain't gonna win no time soon,

1646
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 21: but gubernatorial races, mayoralties, city councils, et cetera. So that's

1647
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,959
Speaker 21: the logic of it for me. And I've always resisted

1648
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 21: the argument that, well, this election is different because it

1649
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 21: ain't been an election yet that we haven't been told

1650
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 21: this one is different. It wasn't like, you know, they said,

1651
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 21: I don't vote cars, Okay, Reagan will be fine. It

1652
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 21: wasn't like they said, oh, Daddy, Bush will be fine.

1653
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 21: Bush will be fine. Trump every time the sky is falling,

1654
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 21: every time, this is the worst threat to Democrat we've

1655
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 21: ever seen, and therefore you have to vote Democrat. Now,

1656
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 21: the truth is Republicans keep getting worse, and so it's

1657
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 21: not untrue that this is the worst threat. I would

1658
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 21: argue Trump is a worst threat than Bush, and Bush

1659
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,959
Speaker 21: maybe not a worse threat than Reagan, but in retrospect.

1660
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 6: But you get the point. So that's the backdrop to

1661
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 6: all of this.

1662
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 21: And so this election cycle, I was faced with the

1663
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 21: same challenging question that we argued about in twenty sixteen,

1664
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 21: and that was what do you do.

1665
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 6: When you're facing a Trump.

1666
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 21: In twenty sixteen, My response was exactly what I had

1667
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 21: planned for, which was I voted Green. I said that

1668
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 21: not because I thought Trump would be good, but because I.

1669
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 6: Believed that the.

1670
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 21: Context was right for us to really mount a resistance. Now,

1671
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 21: to be clear, even when I voted Green in twenty sixteen,

1672
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 21: y'all know I live in Pennsylvania. I really was advocating

1673
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 21: Green Party voting in the forty two states that are

1674
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 21: not competitive because if you think of because they always

1675
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 21: say your vote, you wasting your vote.

1676
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 6: If you vote, you waste your vote.

1677
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 21: If you vote anything in Mississippi or California or Texas

1678
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 21: other than the thing that's.

1679
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 6: Going to win.

1680
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 9: I mean what I mean by waste.

1681
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 21: What I mean by waste is if I'm a Republican

1682
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 21: voting in California. I'm not making a dent either. I'm

1683
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 21: talking at the level of president. I think down to

1684
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 21: ballot you should Down ballot is a whole different conversation.

1685
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,719
Speaker 21: I'm only talking about presdential election right now. Down ballot,

1686
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 21: I think we have to be very careful and very

1687
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 21: strategic because Republicans have been.

1688
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 6: Strategic for decades.

1689
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 21: Right while we're thinking about the presidency, they went in

1690
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 21: state houses, they're taken over. They're doing all the things

1691
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 21: necessary to ruin our lives in very meaningful, day to

1692
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 21: day way. So I'm not saying your vote doesn't matter.

1693
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 21: What I'm saying is that we could be strategic and

1694
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 21: still build a third party. For me, that meant vote

1695
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 21: trading and strategic balloting. So and so, for example, I'm

1696
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 21: in Pennsylvania.

1697
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 6: I might not vote Green.

1698
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 21: In California, I would, and if you know somebody is

1699
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 21: in that state, y'all can vote trade. Right, There's ways

1700
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 21: to navigate it so that the Green Party gets its

1701
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 21: vote and we keep Trump out. What I said that

1702
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 21: entire time in twenty sixteen was we have to do

1703
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 21: whatever we can do to keep Trump out while simultaneously

1704
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 21: building a third party movement. Now sometime that message gets

1705
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 21: lost in all because all people all I ever see

1706
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 21: on the internet is a clip of me saying we

1707
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 21: can afford to lose an election.

1708
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 6: We can. You know, I'm you know, things that I

1709
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 6: wouldn't say in context.

1710
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 21: I never wanted Trump to be in there, and I

1711
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 21: did all I could to stop it, but they lost.

1712
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 21: And one more thing about that before I tell you

1713
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 21: what I'm going to do now. The election wasn't lost

1714
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 21: because of Green Party, you know, And I think that

1715
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 21: that's an unfair burd I think it lets democrats off

1716
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 21: the hook for not meeting our needs. I think it

1717
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 21: ignores the effect that the Clinton campaign in particular did

1718
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 21: not target the right states at the right time and

1719
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 21: the right demographics. You know, no one is entitled to

1720
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 21: our vote. And also if you look at the vote also,

1721
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 21: just to be nerdy, but if you look at the

1722
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 21: exit ata, people who are voting Green aren't voting Democrat next,

1723
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 21: some of them voting Trump next, some of them are

1724
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 21: not voting at all next, some of them are voting

1725
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 21: Communist Party next, some of them voting Socialists next. A

1726
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 21: lot of people are in the Green Party because they

1727
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 21: don't want to be part of the main system. So

1728
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 21: even if the Green Party doesn't run, clardaated La Cruz

1729
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 21: will probably get their vote. And I know people say,

1730
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 21: if I don't vote for them, I'm voting Trump because

1731
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 21: I want to be outside the system, as if he's

1732
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 21: outside the system.

1733
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 6: So I don't accept any of that.

1734
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,759
Speaker 21: This time around, I was faced with a very similar challenge,

1735
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,719
Speaker 21: and I was faced with the realities of a genocide

1736
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 21: in Gaza. And as I stand in strong solidarity with

1737
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 21: Palestinian people. Many of them have said genocide is a

1738
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 21: red line for them.

1739
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 6: It's a non starter.

1740
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 21: They can't vote for anybody who is endorsing a genocide. Now, obviously,

1741
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 21: Kamala Harris is not the head of the Biden administration.

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Speaker 21: Biden is the head of the Biden administration, and if

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Speaker 21: she promised a different way, I think she could make

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01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 21: a compelling argument. Unfortunately, much of what she has spoken

1745
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 21: about so far has suggested that it's the status quote,

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Speaker 21: we support Israel's right to defend itself, which is really

1747
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 21: secret agent talk for you know, we're gonna keep funding

1748
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 21: these weapons in these bombs. I have no reason to

1749
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Speaker 21: believe that the harrison is going to be different, because

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Speaker 21: I have no presidential administration has been largely different.

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Speaker 6: So you have to tell me you're going to be different.

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Speaker 6: You can't.

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Speaker 21: I can't assume you know what I mean. We did

1754
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 21: that with too many other presidents. So then the question becomes, well,

1755
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 21: if that's the same, what do I do? And I

1756
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 21: would never tell a Palestinian not you know what I mean,

1757
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 21: not to stay home or not to vote third party?

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01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 6: How could I? How dare I right?

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01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 21: How dare I, in the midst of a genocide, say,

1760
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Speaker 21: vote for the person who's literally funding or helping to

1761
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 21: fund your genocide. And whether it's Biden, whoever, Let's be clear,

1762
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 21: Trump ain't not Trump would be worse. So that's one

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01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 21: one thing I also have to calculate is despite what

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01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 21: we're saying, Trump on stage said the only thing I

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01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 21: would do different is I finished the job. And we

1766
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 21: saw Trump treated Palestinians and as president, so we don't

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01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 21: have to guess under he cut funds and did all

1768
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 21: these things we could talk about if we want to,

1769
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 21: far more intensely than Biden did, and Biden's been terrible.

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Speaker 21: So if I then make a vote right now, it

1771
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Speaker 21: would not be for a policy different policy outcome. It

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Speaker 21: would be for UH to send a message that genocide

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Speaker 21: is unacceptable.

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Speaker 6: And I'm down with anybody who wants to make that choice.

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Speaker 21: But I believe right now, given what we've seen in

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01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 21: the past, given the reality of what's going on in Gaza,

1777
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Speaker 21: and I do believe that more Palestines would die under

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01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 21: Trump than under Harris, even though I think too many

1779
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 21: will die under both. And in light of the fact

1780
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Speaker 21: that there are other things that I witnessed over the

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01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 21: last eight years that have.

1782
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 6: Broken my heart. My father, My father died alone.

1783
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Speaker 21: Right down the street at twenty third in spring Garden

1784
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 21: because we couldn't see him.

1785
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Speaker 6: You saw him.

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01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 21: We went and visited him one night. We snuck and

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01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 21: snuck in anyhing stale, just getoraded of leave him some gatory.

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Speaker 6: I can't remember.

1789
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Speaker 9: That's the okay.

1790
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Speaker 6: He didn't need it. Black people got sugar.

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01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 21: So but after he let But once COVID came, he

1792
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 21: was he was older, he was ninety, but suddenly because

1793
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 21: of the pandemic, he couldn't.

1794
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 6: He couldn't, he couldn't see anybody. He was isolated.

1795
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Speaker 21: What does it mean to be an isolation inside of

1796
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Speaker 21: inside of a nursing home which became death camps all

1797
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Speaker 21: around this country, as did prisons. Now that ain't Trump's fault,

1798
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 21: but Trump could have done some things different, like read

1799
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 21: the pandemic playbook, not try to tell us the bleach

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01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 21: you'll fix it, or the sunlight will fix it. My

1801
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 21: sister died likely of COVID the day of my father's funeral.

1802
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 21: But it's not personal for me. Hundreds, I mean all

1803
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 21: of us lost people, money, jobs, but more importantly, people.

1804
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 21: Those are preventable deaths, against the batch of all this

1805
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 21: other stuff, against the batch of losing the Supreme Court,

1806
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 21: and and what the Chevron decision is going to mean,

1807
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 21: and basically giving the president the license to kill almost

1808
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 21: and almost the Kingdom. When I look at all of

1809
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 21: this and I see another Trump presidency, I don't believe

1810
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 21: that Trump is the boogeyman in the sense that the

1811
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 21: people can't defeat him. But the way to defeat Trump,

1812
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 21: not all presidents, not most presidents, not any but Trump

1813
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 21: at this juncture history, I do think, is to do

1814
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 21: everything we can to vote him out. And for me,

1815
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 21: that means I am going to pull the lever tomorrow

1816
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 21: morning for Kamala Harris unless something. Let's she say something

1817
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:11,959
Speaker 21: real crazy tonight. I mean, I mean real crazy.

1818
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Speaker 1: She's not gonna do nothing crazy. She's just gonna be

1819
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: down here with the roots.

1820
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Speaker 5: I want to ask you about about Gaza one.

1821
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 3: I just we were talking about you a little at

1822
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 3: dinner tonight, and I fully understand. I think we all

1823
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 3: do what it's like to stand on your convictions, even

1824
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 3: if you're the only person standing there. And I think

1825
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 3: had you made the comments that you did today, it

1826
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 3: would be a completely different reception. It's always the hardest

1827
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 3: when you're the first to say it, and people don't

1828
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 3: always move with the courage of their convictions. When we

1829
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 3: expect lions or hyenas to be lions, and you have

1830
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 3: to accept at the end of the day, people are

1831
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 3: simply hyenas. That's an original Tiffany cross quote and trying

1832
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 3: to be aer But you know, I think a lot

1833
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 3: of people echo your concerns and I was really I

1834
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 3: breathed the sigh of relief after you carry us through that,

1835
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, who did he vote for? I'm so happy

1836
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 3: that that you did. But there I'm torn. As a

1837
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,879
Speaker 3: black woman. I feel so overcome with joy and pride

1838
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: when I pulled that lever, when I clicked her name,

1839
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 3: and when I see her become president, I will just explode.

1840
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 3: There is also my humanity, and I think about the

1841
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 3: fifty thousand plus because I don't believe the numbers that

1842
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 3: we're putting out. When you look at Western media, it's

1843
01:33:54,479 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 3: a very different story than what you see elsewhere. Fifty

1844
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 3: thousand people and we always say women and children, but

1845
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 3: men too, like their lives matter too. When we see

1846
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 3: the devastation the raw devastation, and that we are supporting

1847
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 3: a government that is funding that. What would you say

1848
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 3: to people who feel so incredibly torn by our humanity

1849
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 3: and also the history of this moment.

1850
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 21: I'm gonna tell you not to appeal to authority, which

1851
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 21: would be a logical fallacy university students, But I'm gonna

1852
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 21: say with Angela Davis told me, but I asked. She's

1853
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 21: been on this struggle a lot longer than I have

1854
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 21: even on this issue, and we were together maybe a

1855
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 21: month ago in Chicago and we talked about it, and

1856
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 21: what she said to me is, and it's not the

1857
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 21: first time someone has said this, but it hit me

1858
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 21: differently this time, is that we are voting for the

1859
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 21: person who will give us the most terrain to fight.

1860
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 6: It's really that simple. I know what it's like to

1861
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 6: fight what's happening in Palestine under Trump. Trump.

1862
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 21: The moving the embassy the Jerusalem, the US embassy to

1863
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 21: Jerusalem is something that was actually signed under Clinton in

1864
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 21: the nineties, in ninety six, I believe ninety five. But

1865
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 21: every Democratic, every president, Republican Democrat, has punted on it.

1866
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 21: They just signed a waiver so they don't have to

1867
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 21: actually move it. Because nobody really wants to smoke. It

1868
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 21: was a class of Clinton. Move, get the credit for it,

1869
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 21: but then don't do it, so everybody happy, and every

1870
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 21: president has ignored it. Trump said no, no, no, I ain't

1871
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 21: signing nothing. Move the embassy, which is a Provac's illegal ad.

1872
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:35,959
Speaker 6: It's a provocation.

1873
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 21: UNRWA is the source of food, clothing, and shelter for

1874
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 21: most Palestinians. He cut all US funds to UNRWAH.

1875
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 10: For no.

1876
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 6: He didn't even pretend to give a reason.

1877
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 21: There's a cruelty to Trump that doesn't even allow him

1878
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 21: to be pushed or moved. I believe I'm gonna even

1879
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:05,599
Speaker 21: say I know that Kamala Harris's decision about the vice

1880
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 21: presidential choice was at least taking into consideration the voices

1881
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 21: of people on the ground, who, especially in this state,

1882
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,640
Speaker 21: who expressed their concerns about jos Shapiro. I don't know

1883
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 21: what she was gonna do. I'm not in her head,

1884
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 21: but I do know that they were listening. It's not

1885
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 21: much to just say we listen, but I do think

1886
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:25,879
Speaker 21: it matters. I do think that a more humane position

1887
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 21: on Palestine matters, not because I think we're going to

1888
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 21: vote our way whether the US is going to get

1889
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 21: religion and change on Israel Palestine right away. But it

1890
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 21: is the difference between somebody living and somebody dying. And

1891
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 21: so what I say is, if you think I mean

1892
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 21: what Bobby Womack say, if you think you're lonely, now

1893
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 21: wait until tonight. You know what I'm saying. Like it's bad,

1894
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 21: but wait, let trump and see what it's gonna be.

1895
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:54,959
Speaker 21: Even for the people who are the most vulnerable.

1896
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 2: Well come, well come, well come, well come, well come, come.

1897
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: We are I see the hands. We're gonna take a

1898
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: quick question. There are two questions we're gonna take. Uh,

1899
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna take this sister here, first in the in

1900
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: the Burgundy that's the color that followed by the way,

1901
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: shout out to Burgundy. I'm gonna make sure I get

1902
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: y'all's predictions. And then we're gonna wrap because we apparently

1903
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna run to this train and now looks like

1904
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: it's on time.

1905
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 3: We yeah, I know, bye, y'all, I'm gonna meet you

1906
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 3: at That is so rude.

1907
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: You can't take the car.

1908
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 5: We shared a car.

1909
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: Car pull and say yes, ma'am, oh you.

1910
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 3: Need we got to We'll get We'll get you because

1911
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 3: we want to have a question too.

1912
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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much.

1913
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 22: I am Jenese Sis. I'm a senior here at Temple University.

1914
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 22: A journal is a major Afrocology and African American Studies minor.

1915
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 22: I'm also the co president editor in chief of her campus,

1916
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 22: Temple if anybody wants to read. I had a question

1917
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:05,440
Speaker 22: about mobilizing for the third party. I know, for myself

1918
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 22: and for many students, we have so much on our backs,

1919
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,839
Speaker 22: you know, have to focus on so many different things.

1920
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 22: It's sometimes hard to know if there's another option, but

1921
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 22: we are all very dissatisfied with the two party system.

1922
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 22: I'm just asking, is there a suggested plan of action

1923
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 22: in order to mobilize people to understand who the third

1924
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 22: party option is if there's multiple fourth parties, but just

1925
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 22: any way to kind of get out of the confines

1926
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 22: of the two party system.

1927
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Speaker 14: Councilwoman Brooks sure, like we have maybe one second because

1928
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 14: I made I made a mistake.

1929
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Speaker 5: Zoe, can you stand for a moment.

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Speaker 1: So we're supposed to have another panelist and we got

1931
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: wrapped up in this and I completely forgot. But well,

1932
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Speaker 1: if you don't mind, the executive director of for US

1933
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: dot US, and I want to make sure you may

1934
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: even be able to answer part of this contextualize in

1935
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,839
Speaker 1: some of the important work you all are doing around immigration.

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Speaker 23: Thank you, it's been so nice to.

1937
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 5: It's been so nice to be here.

1938
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 23: I'll just say that, you know, I came today to

1939
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 23: talk a little bit about some of the work that

1940
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Speaker 23: we've been doing, particularly around justice reform and trying to

1941
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 23: pull on criminal justice reform, because if you believe sort

1942
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,759
Speaker 23: of a lot of the punditry, they'll have you thinking

1943
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 23: that there was a bunch a big wave around justice

1944
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 23: and a big polanetization around justice, and then now we're

1945
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 23: having this big backlash around voters caring about this other

1946
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 23: issue that is safety. And what we see in the

1947
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 23: polling time and again is that voters are smarter than

1948
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 23: that and have been informed by four decades of mass

1949
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 23: criminalization and mass incarceration. And you know, went into American

1950
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 23: families and went into American adults that are going to

1951
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 23: vote tomorrow or have voted, have experienced incarceration and their

1952
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Speaker 23: immediate families, and I was moved, and many others were

1953
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 23: when mister Gillham, you talked about that when you were

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Speaker 23: running for office, and so anyways, it's one examp of

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Speaker 23: one issue. That is where we've been sort of forced

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Speaker 23: into these binaries we've been talking about all evening and

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Speaker 23: forced into false choices. But really voters are looking for

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Speaker 23: different solutions and know that they can have different solutions

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Speaker 23: on this one and many others. So thanks for giving

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Speaker 23: me the mic for a second.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 14: So okay, So, being like what we do here for

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Speaker 14: Working Families Party, we do national mobilizations and your other

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Speaker 14: students can get online and do our I think it's

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Speaker 14: monthly calls with mobile around mobilization local here in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 5: We have our office at fifteenth and Ridge.

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Speaker 14: We do several events, mainly focusing going young people. We've

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Speaker 14: been doing like progressive young progressive folks meet up. I

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Speaker 14: see some constant people in a room. So it makes

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Speaker 14: me feel good that we're getting the work done.

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Speaker 6: Our job is to.

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Speaker 14: Make sure that you're connected to organizing tools right here

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Speaker 14: in the city, whether it's issue based work was just

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Speaker 14: a political landscape. Working Families Party has something to you.

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Speaker 14: I would encourage you go to our website and tap

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Speaker 14: in and we can figure out exactly what it is

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Speaker 14: that you want to do to get involved, because for us,

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Speaker 14: mobilization is a personal thing.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm not telling you what to do.

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Speaker 14: It's you to come in and bring your own skill

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Speaker 14: set to help us grow.

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Speaker 5: Thank you. We got one more name and where you're from.

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Speaker 24: My name is Lisa. I am a student here. I'm

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Speaker 24: connected to the School of Social Work and ideal. My

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Speaker 24: question is, uh, what would make a third party viable?

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Speaker 24: And what about doing like a coalition with other parties

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Speaker 24: that may have the same ideals ultimately speaking to you know,

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Speaker 24: seek for the ultimate conclusion.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 19: So just a few things we organize every sing in

1991
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Speaker 19: order to expand the conditions for a third party. And

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Speaker 19: some of those things aren't going to happen overnight, but

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Speaker 19: we're in the courts, so that fusion voting, for example,

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Speaker 19: which exists in Connecticut and New York, can be the

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Speaker 19: law in more states which allows third party, our third

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Speaker 19: parties to have ballid access in a way that doesn't

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Speaker 19: get into that whole spoiler dilemma problem. So that's number one,

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Speaker 19: it's a legal fix that we're trying to spread to

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Speaker 19: more states. Number two, we're a non sectarian party interested

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Speaker 19: in the interest of working people and so we build

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Speaker 19: our party as a coalition party, So we build with

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Speaker 19: labor unions and grassroots organizations, and we're truly a grassroots

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Speaker 19: democratic party. You all could know about the arguments that

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Speaker 19: we have every single day on the local level about

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Speaker 19: who do we endorse and what direction do we take,

2006
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Speaker 19: and which piece of legislation on the state level.

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Speaker 6: The local level we align with.

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Speaker 19: So we're trying to demonstrate what that broad based sort

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Speaker 19: of coalition looks like, where we're bringing in immigration organizations

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Speaker 19: and organizations that are led by people who are returning citizens,

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Speaker 19: and organizations that are led by the LGBTQ community, and

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Speaker 19: organizations that have a different position, you know, on on

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Speaker 19: the environment. We bring all of those folks together through

2014
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Speaker 19: the Working Families Party to be the electoral expression of

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Speaker 19: a very very broad diverse movement.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mo, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 6: Mo, we heard we got you in trouble.

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Speaker 7: You closing all Moe's on a time time frame.

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Speaker 1: We think we're so thankful for Working Panils Party, our

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Speaker 1: partner here, Kindred and Nick. We're grateful.

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Speaker 4: Zoe.

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Speaker 1: I want to bring you up really quick to give

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Speaker 1: us your prediction and close us. Now, we got to

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Speaker 1: wrap up this show.

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Speaker 5: Come on real quick.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to win tomorrow? And

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Speaker 1: what are the electoral college votes looking like?

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Speaker 5: You go right there? I have no idea.

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Speaker 23: I am concerned and I am I am extremely hopeful

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Speaker 23: that we end up in a situation where we are

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Speaker 23: able to organize the next president to do things like

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Speaker 23: grant commutations, which we should also push President Biden to

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Speaker 23: do and his lame duck, and that we are able

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Speaker 23: to push the next president to you know, get the

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Speaker 23: Sentencing Commission running and changing sentences. So I'm ready to

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Speaker 23: move to policy, and I really hope that we're working

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Speaker 23: with someone that will help us get there. I have

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Speaker 23: my own personal ideas, but I'm non partisan professionally.

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Speaker 5: So thank you.

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Speaker 3: And can we shout out to people who came from Jersey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah to the Jersey fight.

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Speaker 5: How are coming out?

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Speaker 1: Thank you all so much. We know that there are

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Speaker 1: so many things pressing on your time.

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Speaker 6: It is election eve.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't voted already, please make sure you go

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Speaker 1: and pull the lever like our dear brother Mark la

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Speaker 1: myt heil tomorrow. I don't know which camera I'm looking at,

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Speaker 1: but we are closing out this show, this one. Thanks, welcome, Thanks, and.

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Speaker 5: We don't mean to be Welcome y'all for.

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Speaker 9: The last morning. Say thank you for joining the Natives.

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Speaker 2: Attention to what the info and all of the latest

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Speaker 2: Roy Gillum and cross connected to the statements that you

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Speaker 2: leave on our sol shows. Thank you sincerely for the patients.

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Speaker 2: Reason for your choice is clean, so grateful and took

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Speaker 2: to execute role for serve, defend and protect the truth

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Speaker 2: you've been.

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Speaker 6: In paint for.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home to all of the Natives, wait, thank you,

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Speaker 2: Welcome y'all.

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Speaker 6: Welcome.

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