1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Well, you've got seven time All Star and viral eagle 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Man at the pro Brian mccannon with us right now, 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: so on TV's across the country and on YouTube, all 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: over all of our platforms. For one minute, we were like, 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: let's just turn around and look at one shot. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: The only shot we honestly, the one shot we looked 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: at all day. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: I heard you, I was, I was teeing off and 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: heard you said, let's see what be back? That was 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: on eighteen and I bladed it. I didn't hit the 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: shot I was. I was looking to him and I 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: thought I was long, and then I must have. I 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: called it a groove, a groove low, and I got 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 3: lucky there. 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Were you were you like, oh man, eight day is annoying, 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: and now I gotta hit this. It's in my head clearly. 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it worked exactly. Devil on your shoulder 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: was a positive vibe. 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: I was looking to put it on the green and 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: two putt. These greens are no joke fast, yeah, and 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: you got to no down grain into the grain. I 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: don't know any of that. So like I'm putting blonde. 23 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: Oh. 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 5: At the country clubs, you guys play in Atlanta with 25 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 5: frenchie hero. 26 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: They don't have they don't have grain. They have a 27 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: butler that comes out and makes the green all the time. Uh, 28 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: poor me. Yeah, what was you? 29 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 4: B Mac and Jeff Frankcore putting to their heart's delight. 30 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: They love it. Jeff, can you come out and play? No, 31 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay inside and play my xbox. 32 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: I haven't played with Jeff and and in two month 33 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 3: three months. 34 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 5: Well, he's been at thirty eight the whole time in 35 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: his problem beach house in Pensacola. 36 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: He's got he's got four kids under twelve. He's he's 37 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 3: running around. 38 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 39 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 6: So how's life for you? 40 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: It's great. 41 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 6: What are you up to? 42 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: Playing a lot of golf? YEP, I could tell yeah, 43 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: coaching my kids. I got a son and a daughter. 44 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: My daughter does cheer, so I'm going to practice and uh, 45 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: baseball ended, and now my son's into basketball, so we 46 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: flip flipped h between baseball and basketball. I coached the 47 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: baseball team, so it's Uh, I'm enjoying retirement. 48 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: You have to go to the cheerleading events because people 49 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: that I know that have had daughters that have been cheerleaders. Yeah, 50 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 5: so you go to the cheerlead event all day for 51 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 5: three minutes. 52 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: You just sit there. 53 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: You sit there from eight am to eight pm and 54 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 5: they do three minutes like one pm, and then you 55 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: have to stay. 56 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 6: Yep, what do you do to kill time? 57 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: Sit in my car? 58 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 6: You're like, what, what's what's the kill time for? Brian Mcan? 59 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Is it like just doom scrolling on the phone, listen 60 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: to a podcast, rip music, Take a nap. 61 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: I take take a nap. I take my sprinter van. 62 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: So we went to five locations outside of our city, 63 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: Like we went to Louisville, Kentucky, Biloxi, Orlando, and I 64 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: get in the sprinter van and take a nap in between. 65 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: But it's it's crazy. I mean, it's a it's a huge, 66 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: huge business. I didn't know it existed. 67 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, uh are you watching ball? Oh? 68 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 69 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 6: Do you hear it from Braves fans? Like what's going 70 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 6: on this year? 71 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: They got hit with the injury bugger really and and 72 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: and they've had some guys go down in big, big 73 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: spots and they just haven't really been able to to 74 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 3: to stay consistent or get consistent. 75 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 6: I've got one for you. 76 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: So I've been on some radio shows in Atlanta and 77 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: one time I guess I've some fans off because I'm 78 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: like Braves fans, you're jaded lately. The teams in the 79 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: playoffs every year. You keep your players for the most part. 80 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Freddy's different story, but you've kept a lot of your players. 81 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: You won a World Series in the last five years. Now, 82 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: they most fans would take that. 83 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: But they have a great core stuff to build off of. 84 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: I mean they you know, Michael Harris has gotten really hot. 85 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: That gives them an extra bat to lengthen it out. 86 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: I think that's kind of what they've been missing, is 87 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: a couple of bats to lengthen the lineup out where Uh, 88 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: you know, you got to have production from the bottom 89 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: of your order. 90 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: You can't. 91 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: You can't rely on the same two or three four 92 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 3: guys every night. 93 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: Snick coming back, you play, you play, and both. Yeah. 94 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: He was my double a manager and he's the one 95 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: that told me I was getting called up, and he 96 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: he told me to come to his room. And when 97 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: when I was getting called up, no shirt on, Harry 98 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Chess and He's like, get over here, hug, just some 99 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: just some shorts on. So it was like that's a 100 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: memory that I that I take. I'll take to the 101 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: grave and you know, you get the biggest news of 102 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: your life from one of the best guys I know. 103 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: So he's my favorite. 104 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 6: That's cool. Have you been watching cal Riley this year? 105 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 106 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: What the fifty, bro, he's got fifteen. 107 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: I can't even wrap my head around it. 108 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: And he you know, you had a lot of homers, 109 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: but fifties way more. 110 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: I hit twenty two. He's I mean, this is like 111 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 3: he had that in April or May like it was. 112 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: It's crazy what he's doing. I went to the All 113 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: Star homer in Derby and he is so in sync. 114 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: His whole body is just working perfectly together and like 115 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: he's not missing. I can't fathom it. You ever do 116 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: you fathom it? 117 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: No? 118 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I know, fifty homers plus homers as a 119 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: catchers because most of the time, first of all, catchers 120 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: don't get that many of beasts to get to fifty, 121 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 5: you know, he has d h a little bit, but 122 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: to hit fifty in whatever, one hundred, he's hitting a 123 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 5: homer in like almost every other game. 124 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: It's it's crazy. 125 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: Especially I told someone like, I'm anxious to see August 126 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: in September because that's no I know, that's the crazy. 127 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: I mean, that's when August like fifteenth would come around, 128 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: I'd be like, uhh, I don't feel the same, you know, 129 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: and then you just grind down through September. 130 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 5: Look at Will Smith in LA right the last three years, 131 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 5: his second half numbers have just plummeted. 132 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to keep yourself up. 133 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeahs do didn't get that get enough credit for how 134 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: tough it is to carry a staff. 135 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: And I think crowds will agree with us too, because 136 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: obviously he called. 137 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 5: But when they do, like the ops plus and the 138 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 5: ops against the whole league, it should just be a catcher, 139 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: big staff. For me, I agree, because you can't explain 140 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 5: to people how hard it is what a catcher does 141 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 5: compared to you know, you look out there and in 142 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 5: French he's out there working on his batting stance and 143 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 5: you're a backtor chasing balls around. 144 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: Try hoping that you know, you don't have to chase 145 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: balls at the backstop the whole time. Hitting came second. 146 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you could, if if John Smoltz, 147 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: if you couldn't, couldn't work with him, you're not catching 148 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: Game one in the playoffs and that, so you had 149 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: to make sure that was locked down and then whatever 150 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: you got offensively was was a bonus. 151 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, but how much is that heat in Atlanta? Bug? 152 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 6: You too? 153 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: You talk about August fifteenth. I remember one series in 154 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: August we played against you and d Ross. David Ross 155 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: was there and he caught the day game and you 156 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: caught the previous three games, and I played the night 157 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: game and then day game because Choos was out, and 158 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: both of you said the same thing. David Roscos he goes, 159 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: oh man, he goes, I'm too old to play these 160 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 4: day games. They gotta let that young guy McCann play. 161 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: And the night before you go, man, I can't be 162 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: playing all these games in a row. It's too hot 163 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: down here. So how bad is that? 164 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: It was a grind? It was a grind. But when 165 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Dave Ross was there, he was my favorite backup neo 166 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: that I ever had. He taught me so much about 167 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: the game and we hung out late night all the 168 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: time and talked about the game and how to maneuver 169 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: pitchers through games, and he's one of my favorites. 170 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: OKKP, this is your first arena club experience. We're gonna 171 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: open a slab pack together. So first off, we're gonna 172 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: buy one of those twenty five dollars slab packs and 173 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: we get to see what is in the pack. There 174 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: it is the Grail, which is the best card in 175 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: the pack and worth the most. There are some other 176 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: cards that we're chasing, and you can see the entire 177 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: lineup so that you know what you're in the running for. 178 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: There's the Yamamoto signed card. Now let's open up our 179 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: pack and. 180 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 6: See how we do. 181 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: We have ourselves a really cool graphic and then a 182 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: show heo Tani fifty to fifty card from last year. 183 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Should we sell it 184 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: right back to them for sixteen or should we keep it? 185 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: You should give it to me, I'll. 186 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Keep good answer, Fine, I will give it to you. 187 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: Since the Blue Jays didn't getto Tani, you can get. 188 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: This fifty to fifty card instead. Use the code foul 189 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: foul to get yourself twenty percent off your first slab 190 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: pack or card purchase. Yes, you get to keep that 191 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: card if you want it. They send it to you 192 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: foul at Arena club dot com slash foul. Hey. So 193 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot of times we'll bring on a former player 194 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: and be like, actually, we just did that recently with 195 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: someone like, Oh, do you like the way this rule 196 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: is now or this part of the game is now? 197 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 6: Can't shift anymore? I go, do you watch baseball now? 198 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Like? 199 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 6: Are you kidding me? 200 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: I mean my average went from two eighty five to 201 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: two forty two thirty five quick And then it was 202 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: hard to change your what you've done your whole life 203 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: and the cutter. I felt like I had to cover 204 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: that first and I couldn't go the other way with it. 205 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: And if I had that approach, I was going to 206 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: hit twelve to fifteen home runs. Chipper pulled me in 207 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: his room one night and goes, hey, look what type 208 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: of hitter do you want to be? You want to 209 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: try to hit three hundred with fifteen or you want 210 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: to try to do to eighty with like twenty five. 211 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, I'll try to eighty with twenty five. 212 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: I couldn't. I couldn't leave to the opposite field left center. 213 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: My best ball would go to the track. So I had 214 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: to figure out and I was like, I could take 215 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: that same pitch and pull that for a homer. 216 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: So I sacrificed average for power. 217 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,479 Speaker 6: They would just create this vacuum. 218 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, when that first started, I was not pretty for 219 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: the fan experience. 220 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: And then in New York it's so short and right 221 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: field it looks like there's four out infielders over there, 222 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: so there was no there was not many hits over there. 223 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 6: For me, it was crazy. 224 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: So would you So do you think Royce Lewis just 225 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: said the other day, he was like, ah, I don't 226 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: want to I don't want to change mid season because 227 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: I'm giving up thirty games of arbitration numbers. And it 228 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: was kind of, you know, kind of a moment where 229 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: he said the truth, but it was hard to hear 230 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: a player say that. Would you have had to have change? 231 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: Would you have been able to change if the shift 232 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: was implemented early in your career, say year two before 233 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: you had a contract. 234 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 235 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: When I first came up, my first two three years, 236 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: I was left center, left center, left center, and my 237 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: average was was better. And then as I as I 238 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: tried to, you know, leave the Dopps away, it wasn't happening. 239 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: And I would have just stayed to left center, and 240 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: it probably would I probably would have been a better 241 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: player if I would have done that. 242 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: I got I got to pool happy. 243 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: And if I could go back, I tell people, if 244 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: I could go back, I would I would do it. 245 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman does, I would have hit every ball in 246 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: VP and in the cage to left center field and 247 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: then try to pull in the game. But it would 248 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 3: have kept my front shoulder tucked in a little better. 249 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: But when I was in New York, I was literally 250 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: I tried to hit a home run on the upper 251 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: deck every every. 252 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Bud in May Right, you get all right, Hey, the 253 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Braves are split and playing time with their catchers pretty evenly. 254 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that's the future in the sport? Related 255 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: to what you're saying, a lot of guys can't hang 256 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: through the whole season, and then the playoff numbers recently 257 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: post catchers are brutal. 258 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to see them go back to our 259 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: days of one hundred and thirty games. If you're an 260 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: elite guy, when you look around the league, I mean, 261 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: it's the position is you know, it's in a good 262 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: spot at the top, and it's it's a tough one, 263 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: you know. And I think that the framing has become 264 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: such a big, a big part of the game, and 265 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 3: you know, so split in time, Like I'd like to 266 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: see guys catch catch more. If you're a frontline guy. 267 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 6: Can most of them handle it? Though? 268 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 269 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Anyone, So, yeah, you guys did it, but a JD. 270 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean you're around the clubhouse every week. You think 271 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: most guys can handle it and want to. 272 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 5: And most guys haven't been brought up to do it, 273 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: right the cross shacking it said, they haven't been brought. 274 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: Up to do it. 275 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: I think one hundred and twenty twenty games of years 276 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: is a good number for for a frontline guy. 277 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just hard. Now it's one hundred. Now that 278 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 5: you get you guys can say, oh it's a hundred, 279 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 5: you're gonna get tired. 280 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: But I just and if you can really hit now 281 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: that now that we didn't have a DH, so like 282 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: I was always coming to pinch it on the eighth. 283 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: But if they had a if they had a if 284 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: we had the d H, I would have probably I 285 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: would probably played one hundred and sixty two games, I think, 286 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean I would have caught it. 287 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: I was, eh, how bad was it? 288 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 5: When was there anything worse than you know? You you 289 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: caught a lot, I caught a lot. You'd be losing 290 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 5: and in the manager be like, b Mac, I need 291 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 5: you to come in an eight, try to get it, 292 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: and then you got to catch the night. 293 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: You're just like, oh whatever. 294 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 6: My day off. 295 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's a mental like when you go 296 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: in and you go you know, you don't get the knock. 297 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: You're like, all right, They're like, but you got to get. 298 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: Your your mind. It's more for your mind. Yeah, all 299 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: days are more for like us just sitting back. But 300 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: that was David Ross. 301 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: He's like that. 302 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: He said it all the time. My goal is to 303 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: make sure you get a full off day. And he 304 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: was the best. He was the best. 305 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: I'm impressed that your beard still looks exactly the same 306 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: and you haven't put on a pound since you've been 307 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: done playing. That's all I have to say. And I've 308 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: just been watching. I've just been looking at the screen. 309 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: Some people age. You haven't aged a bit. I thought 310 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 4: you looked like you were forty years old when you 311 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 4: were twenty six. 312 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 313 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: And you know what the crazy part if you go 314 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: back and look when I was in New York when 315 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: I had to shave, I looked like I was fifteen. 316 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: So I got an ace in the hole when I 317 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: get older, when this comes off. I look like I'm 318 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: twenty five, twenty three. Yeah, you like we get older, 319 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: But I got a little gray, I got some gray. 320 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all great. 321 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm holder for a while and then you blitz everyone 322 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: with the clean shave, like, hey, I just went backwards 323 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years you got. 324 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: I got ace in the hole for m Yeah, down 325 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: the road. 326 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: All right, I got two more questions for you. One 327 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 328 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 5: You were on the ballot last year, right, yeah, how 329 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: many votes did you get? 330 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: I know he wasn't five us. Yeah, it wasn't enough 331 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: to I don't understand. 332 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: For a catcher and you played in the same air, 333 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 5: close to the same area, you're a little bit behind me. 334 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: But seven All. 335 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 5: Stars, six Silver Sluggers, World Series champion. And this is 336 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 5: kind of a personal thing too. Why are catchers so undervalued? 337 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: Like you look at Jorge Basadi, you look at you, 338 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: you look at some of the great catchers that we 339 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: played against in or around. Yeah, and they get two 340 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 5: percent pen votes, twelve votes? Why why is that a thing? 341 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 5: Why don't they they to me they need to compare 342 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: catchers to catchers in every era, right, yes, because they'd say, oh, well, 343 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: dada da, he didn't do this and his ops plus 344 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: was this. 345 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: But also you only you played less games. 346 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: You were getting the crap beat out of you behind 347 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: the play all these things that they look at your 348 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 5: wars down, your wars down because you don't play as 349 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 5: many games. 350 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I think what we did thirty years 351 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: down the road is going to look way better than 352 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: it does now because of what you just said. 353 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of guys that are playing the games. 354 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: It up the numbers that were put that we put, 355 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: you know that we were able to put up. So 356 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: I think down the road, when guys look at the game, 357 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: I think it'll change the way they look at it. 358 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: But I think right now, uh, you know, you're just 359 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: in that era of you know, there's not there's how 360 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: many how many catchers are in the Hall of Fame. 361 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: Not many. There's like what, I don't that third basement 362 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: like yeah. 363 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just it, it doesn't get the uh, 364 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 365 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 6: I'm with you. 366 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: Every they should all it should all be just compared 367 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: to us, to the catching position, not not first base. 368 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: And twenty twenty twenty game has been around a long time, 369 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: twenty it's the second fewest third base third base. 370 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 6: It's crazy crazy. What was your other one? Oh? 371 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Mine's on golf? Can I ask a golf question? 372 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 373 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: Okay, First of all, they want to know easier to 374 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: catch small Tutson Tanaka. 375 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: Who was the easiest? See who was the easiest guy? 376 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: The easiest? Yeah, not the toughest. We can name a 377 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: million guys are tough. 378 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: Out of those, as you just mentioned. I never caught man. 379 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: He never came, never was he was. 380 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: He didn't leave your glove. Yeah, he literally, Like the 381 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: sinker ballers were tough. The lefties for me were the hardest. 382 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: The cutters in and holding that I don't I did. 383 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: I worked better to the right than the left. So 384 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: like to hold that cutter, you know, anything coming this way, 385 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: I did well, But anything going that way, like my 386 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: hiffs didn't work. To block that slider down this way. 387 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Cec was hard for me to catch. But I just 388 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: those sinker ballers when you don't get that bottom of 389 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: the zone, you don't stick it, and you get that 390 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: look and you're like, all right, dude, my bad, I'll 391 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: get it. But you know, Honey would get that thing. 392 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: He threw a one seamer that just you'd have to 393 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: get under it and and. 394 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: Really really fight. Hey here, I got a question for you. 395 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: Do you think if you caught on a knee your 396 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: whole career you would have played longer? 397 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I played nineteen. I don't know, I know, 398 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: do you think? But I think I think it would 399 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: have been different. I don't know. If people ask. 400 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: Body would have heard him, I think I would have 401 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: I could have played a couple more years. 402 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: If I probably could have stole a couple more years 403 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: at the end. Yeah, you know, but I don't know. 404 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. You never know. It's easy to say that. 405 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 5: But also, dude, they're so exposed, Like the lower there's 406 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 5: so much more body exposed. Like I always tried to 407 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 5: like hide behind my shine guards too, right, I was 408 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: always like, all right, let me seek it. So I'm 409 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: trying to hide behind my chest protector, my shine guards, 410 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: so the ball would hit something that was protected. 411 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, nowadays everything is out. 412 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: My last year in Atlanta, I work with South Asano 413 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: all spring training, so like to do the knee. And 414 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: then I was calling a game in spring training and 415 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm more worried about my setup than like, yeah, 416 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: getting the reaction of the hitter, and you know, so 417 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: I was just like, I can't do it. 418 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: All right, can you win this thing golf? You make 419 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: the eagle? No, I can't win it. How many points 420 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: twenty eight? That's good. 421 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: I'm looking to get top twenty five. That was my goal, 422 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: top twenty finished with all these great golfers, like, I'll 423 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: be very happy. 424 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: With how much have you improved? Okay? 425 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: Because yeah, we played together golf. What it's been almost 426 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 5: it had been ten years, but it's been seven or 427 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 5: eight years. 428 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: And I played with you and it was yeah, it 429 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: wasn't great. It wasn't great. 430 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, the big you played, the big high was 431 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: Skippy your cat. 432 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: You remember, Oh yeah? 433 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? 434 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: And now now I look and I see you making 435 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: eagles on eighteen. 436 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: My driver's gotten better every You never hit driver, You 437 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: always hit three one. I know. So I'm hitting my 438 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 3: driver now, that's like my best club in my back. 439 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: I don't hit it far, but I it's I love it. 440 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: My kids go to school and I go, ready, is 441 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: it true? 442 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 5: Frenchy told me that you just go as soon as 443 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 5: your kids leave. You have a simulator in your house. 444 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: You just go downstairs and you just hit balls in 445 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 5: the simulator all day long. 446 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: No, I go to the court, but yeah, I'm on 447 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: the simulator when i'm I go on the similar when 448 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 3: when I'm struggling, Oh, like when I when I'm but 449 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm at the course a lot. 450 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 6: Simulator at night, right is that more of a night bench? 451 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: She said, he goes there any anytime he has two minutes. 452 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: B Max down there whacking balls in the simulator. 453 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 6: I am, oh, that's it's one minute. You can go 454 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 6: down there and you. 455 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: Can turn it on and let's go exactly. 456 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: Well, be Max, thanks for joining us, Thanks for being 457 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: part of the experience for us here calling one. 458 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: I can't, we can't another shot. 459 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 6: Did you get it on? 460 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: Did you get it on the camera? 461 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if we have care. So there was 462 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: a drone watch. 463 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: There was a drone too. Yeah, there were cameras on you. 464 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: It's almost like you were back in the big leagues, 465 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: like ninth. They didn't clutch moment. Everyone's watching for one 466 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: second and I worked out I had looked put it 467 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: together like it's it. 468 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: I was like, no, it rolled night. It was nice. 469 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: It was nice. One hop little was perfect right right. 470 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: It took some time yeah, you didn't think it was 471 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: going in and then it dropped down. 472 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 6: It was nice. 473 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: I know it was gonna be closed, I just didn't 474 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: know how closed. 475 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 476 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful, Thanks Fratzy, good seeing 477 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: You, Good seeing you too, Kate,