WEBVTT - Plan B Kill (with Tawny Newsome) 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.800 I mean my dad. He used to play a game 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.440 with me where he would kind of like lie and 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.240 wait like an ambush in the hallways in our house, 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.760 out a corner in our house. This sounds like abuse. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:16.919 I gotta say it was not amused. We have a 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.639 good relationship. He's a good man. But he would I 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.919 was a kid, and he would pop out and just 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.360 like incapacitating it some way and be like how do 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:26.160 you get out of it? And you always got hair, 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.600 so I love that so much, and just popping around 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.520 a corner and be like, have been ready to be ready? 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.879 Now you thought it was always some real like you know, 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.839 behind the Dubno's pizza style like karate moves he was 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.319 teaching me they were not real karate because then when 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.080 I did go to a real karate class, tried to 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.120 show them my quote foot self defense, they were like, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.760 what is this? Gett of ship? It's like, you can't 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.440 just buy the man's inner, die, Tony, that's not karate. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.120 That's just the thing your daddy said to dude. That's 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:06.240 just street fighting from the sixth Days, Johnny chips in 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:25.360 your racist money intern stuff. You can't tell me, Yeah, yeah, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.960 there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.320 to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.680 podcast where we've died deep, deep, deep into the pockets 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:41.479 of black conspiracy theories and we work to finally find 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:46.600 out Oprah's favorite flavor of orphan blood. Which orphan does 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.800 she like to drink the most? Personally, I think she 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.120 likes Icelandic orphan blood. That would be my guest. I know, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.840 I know you're gonna say, well, Oprah clearly hates the 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.040 black community. She would obviously drink the blood of small 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.480 black children where she does. But the truth is Oprah 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.840 wants something excited. She wants to taste that rare blood. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.200 And there's nothing rarer than a little Icelandic baby without 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.880 a family. That's what Oprah's into. That's the rumor I'm spreading. Hey, 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.560 it's me. It's your host, lenksne Kerry. As always, I 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.520 don't know why I talked like this. It's a complicated 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.400 algorithm that turned me into the person I am today. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.040 But you know who's not a trash person, You know 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.240 who doesn't talk like an insane person constantly. It's my 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:34.320 guest today, She's fantastic. You know her from Space Force, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.080 you know her from Star Trek, Lower Decks, you know 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.000 her from She basically has a monopoly on all black 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:44.320 ladies space stuff. At this point, she's hilarious. You love her, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:50.640 you know her. Give it up for Tawny Newsom. Everybody. Yes, 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.480 you're they're here. They adore you. How are you showed up? 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.200 I'm good, I'm good. That's I mean, that's the opposite 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.720 of what I told you what I logged into the 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:03.600 zoom off Mike, I think I said, And then I'm good. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.680 You turned it up for the audience you are like, yeah, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.040 you're a completely different person behind the scenes. You got 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.840 a real ellen degenerous vibe about you at this point, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.680 given the shift. If you but I flip it, I'm 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.919 a monster for everything public facing and then in private 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:28.320 amount kin sure, so shut the funk up, Shut the 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.320 funk up, and watch me dance real mad to this music. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.960 Speaking of music, this theme song is perfect, perfect, Oh 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.000 thank you so much. It was done by a hilarious 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.520 comedian and very talented man. I always say he's the 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.840 most talented person I know, this guy, Nick Chambers, who 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.760 was a comedian out in New York Now and I 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.920 resent him very much for having so many gifts. He 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.280 did the artwork for our show, he did the music 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.000 for our show, and he has all the hatred that's 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.640 bubbling in my heart for the skills it I don't have. Sure, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.480 but it's good to have someone like that in your 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:09.000 corner rather than against you. Sure, exactly. He is like 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.240 a member of the Expendables for me, you know what 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.240 I mean, He's my Sylvester Stallone if you will, m hm, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:21.560 I've heard of that movie. It's a movie, it's it's 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.760 three movies, it's a it's a powerful franchise at this point. Wow, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.040 I have been asleep on that. I'm sorry. I didn't 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.679 know what that was. And to be honest, you didn't 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.960 come here to talk expendables. That's a different podcast. Would 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.800 turn that down. I can't. I'm busy. I can't do it. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.800 I'm so sorry, just because I didn't know, not because 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.560 I have anything against it. I don't know it. Sure, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.360 good for you for having that level of self control 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.120 where you're like, I'm gonna step out of this one. Guys, 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.520 this isn't for me. I just signed up and been like, yeah, 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:57.680 let's talk. I don't know I'll bet Yeah, I'm excited 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.360 to get an excited feels like almost the wrong phrasing here, 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.359 But I am eager to get into the conspiracy theory 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.080 that you sent our way, because it I would say, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.960 it's a pretty heavy one. It's a sturdy conspiracy theory 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.279 to be digging into. But you said, my mama told 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:21.320 me breath control trials in Africa are being used for masterialization. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.120 It is heavy. Hearing it out loud feels different than 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:31.840 when you just type some stuff and go, hey, can 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.240 we talk about this. Hearing it out loud, I'm like, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.800 birth control, child sterilization, Africa. These are big words, these 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.719 are big ideas. This is a deep ship we're talking about. Yeah, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.120 So this one walks the line of like, I don't 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.960 know how much conspiracy theory it really is just or 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.520 is it just like a little bit of extrapolation on facts, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.200 because the facts are that they did, you know, test 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.279 drugs like depo provera with women my age might know, 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.400 as like the birth control shot, which was available I 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:07.920 think in the nineties. I don't know they tested that 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.160 on women in then called Rhodesia, I guess Zimbabwe in 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.360 the seventies and the women were coerced into taking it, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.080 you know, they were asked to take it in exchange 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.359 for things they needed like food and water, medical supplies 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.679 and stuff. So it wasn't you know, the trials weren't 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.720 on the up and up to say the least. And 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.360 then there was also there was the other one nor plant. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.719 They used to test that out on women, but you know, 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.159 all these women had these massive side effects and a 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.159 lot of women became sterile. And it's not that far 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.480 of a job to be like hm hmm. So this 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.279 is a whole continent where for centuries missionaries and well 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.159 meaning whites have been going down there and being like, oh, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.960 the African people, such a vibrant people, you know, the 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.640 whole monolith, the whole continent. What a vibrant people. But 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.640 if they could only control their population. They can't even 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.479 feed these children, you know, and so there's we could 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.960 just if we could just get these savages too, maybe 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:05.760 produce a little less because they make they make such 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:10.440 beautiful baskets, Just fewer children. Let's sneak some ship into 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:15.120 their morning breakfast, you know, like it's not that far fetched. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:19.040 I have none. So this is a reckless theory. No, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.440 and and let's let's start right from where you started, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.800 right from the beginning. I think. I think when I 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.520 originally read your conspiracy theory, I was like, Okay, this 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.960 is just true. This is just like and again my 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.360 brain is filled with nonsense. So I immediately was like, fact, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.680 what are we doing? This is she doesn't know how 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:42.840 conspiracy theories were, but I do think that to your point, 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.200 it sort of is one of those things that is 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:49.880 hedging both truth and conspiracy theory that like, the truth 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.560 is that these trials are a hundred percent real. The 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:58.200 question is what was the intention behind these trials? Was it, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.880 in fact, for popular lation control or was it just like, oh, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.640 y'all were trying some stuff out and it went awry, right, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.280 You're just trying some ship out on people. You felt 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.600 like we're expendable basically, which is sinister in and of itself, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.640 And that is definitely what happened. So even the truth 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.480 is real, dark and fucked up, You're you're welcome for 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:21.880 me picking this one. And the consiracy theory is like 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.520 fucking you know, villainous and sinister. Yeah, I mean, I 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.320 just fully believe it. I feel like I don't even 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:30.920 need This is one of those dangerous ones where I'm 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.240 just like, I don't even need proof. I hear it. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:34.920 I'm like, yeah, that's what they're doing. They're trying to 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.440 kill us all. And that's the hard ones to sort 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.600 of wrestle with, right is Like even if in some 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.840 conversation with the person they were like, well, actually, this 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.760 is the true thing behind what you're saying, or here's 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.840 some facts you may not have considered, there's still a 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:52.920 part of you that's like, no, my fucker, I know 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.320 I You can try to trick me all you want 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.079 into thinking that, Like white people had a more or 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.400 ground in their approach to giving drugs to people who 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:07.120 didn't realize they were taking these kinds of drugs or 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.160 this severe of a drug. But now you know what 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:11.960 you were doing. You know what you're doing because this 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.240 ship was like the seventies, Like, yes, it's been going 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.440 on long before that, but this specific birth control ship, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.600 this is the seventies. You know where else you could 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.880 have tested out your brand new fangled birth control drug, Boston, bitch, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.960 Like try it out in Massachusetts and see how women do? 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.199 You got this white ass state Maine filled with with 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:40.800 twothless Hillbillies. You can test it on them. Shout out 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.240 to Maine. My bad, I didn't realize that's where your 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.840 fan base was located. Oh yeah, I get a lot 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.000 of a lot of hits and streams from Maine. No, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.199 but truly, truly, if it's all innocent, there's people everywhere 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.800 you could get white women from. You know, all kinds 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.800 of places, you get all kinds of colors of women. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.000 You don't have to go to a whole last continent 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.720 that that has been tested on for centuries. I don't know, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.120 but this is the sort of thing that like makes 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:11.840 me wary of trying out anything, Like, yeah, the COVID 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:16.560 vaccine trot. No, no, I'm waiting like that. I'm gonna 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.840 stop you right there. That's how they get you. I'm terrified. 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.400 I'll be honest, I'm terrified of that vaccine. And not 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.480 because I think to your point. I think I want 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.440 to take it right, like I want to be free 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.200 of whatever this is. Boy, would I love to get 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.320 back to doing stand up and being out in the 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:38.640 world and like going to clubs and parties with my 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.560 friends and ship. But at the same time, there is 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.880 just too much history of manipulation with falsey drugs for 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.840 me to feel confident that putting this needle in my 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:54.040 body is just gonna be an a okay decision. Yea yeah. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.679 I mean, especially with those reports of them giving ship 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.160 for free to all the hbc U s, It's like, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.920 this is not for this is not free. Everyone be suspicious, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.000 be suspicious. Why are you get all these black college 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:09.959 students again, Boston. There's a lot of calls Boston, right, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:11.920 you don't have to give it to the Harvard kids, 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.959 get to the lesser colleges that you've got all these 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.760 new masses around there that you could clearly give this 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.760 drug to. Now, Leason, you keep taking what I'm saying, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.800 and you kissed that I'm gonna get in true. Listen, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.520 I think what Dawny is trying to say is give 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.360 it to the white pores. Wait wait, wait, wait wait 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:37.880 now wait. She's being very clear and I'm not manipulating 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.880 this at all. She is articulating herself perfectly. I am 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.760 merely backing her up. I'm a pip, She's glad it's night. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.440 This is this is a clear conversation. Wait, were you 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:52.160 really a pip? Oh? In the no I was for 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.640 our listeners. We were in Sherman Showcase, a wonderful show 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.120 on Hulu. Now I have seen Hulu and you play 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:03.240 Diana Raw Yes, you were smoking right. I was Smokey Robinson, 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:08.120 that's right, perfect. And I was constantly wavering between making 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.000 a full commitment to a smokey Robinson voice or just 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.000 letting my regular voice be because you know, when you're 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.199 doing a character, it's like, Okay, am I gonna be 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.679 fully in the character and do like a Jay Pharaoh impression? 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.800 Or am I just gonna like be funny by my 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.920 you know, in my own voice as is. I think 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.480 we were all like one foot in and out of 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.840 the full commitment on that. I will say I was 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.240 truly stunned in the most impressed possible way with your 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.440 Diana Ross impression. It felt, oh, thank you, I feel 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.440 like the same thing as you. I was like doing 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.840 the breathy voice and the whispy walk, and then every 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.520 now and then I'd just be like, man, this, I 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:53.120 was like, Oh, that's that's just me a little boy. Okay. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.199 Talk to me about where you first became aware of 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.680 this conspiracy theory. When did this first come to your world? 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.119 If you will. So I was in college in Chicago 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.559 and I didn't have any money and I didn't have 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.480 any health insurance, and I needed to go for my 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.320 yearly like pops mirror, and so I went to this 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.959 really cool clinic. I don't know if they're still in business, 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.400 but they were called the Chicago Women's Health Center, and 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.480 everybody on campus knew about them because you could go 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.680 and they had like a sliding scale office visit, so 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.400 you could show up and pay zero dollars, you could 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.000 pay forty dollars whatever, and everyone, Yeah, it was a 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.120 really cool resource. I used them a lot when I 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.560 didn't have insurance. They would sit there with you for 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.439 an hour and talk to Every appointment was like an hour, 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.280 I feel like, and they would talk to you about 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.079 all your birth control options. They would talk to you 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.320 about health stuff. They just like took away the stigma 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.000 about talking about those things. So I went to them 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.760 and I was looking for I wasn't even looking for 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.240 birth control, but they were like, oh, well, if you're active, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:53.640 do you want to get on some? And I was 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.280 like sure, I've never really taken it before. And they 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.080 were like, well, why don't you research some? And come back. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.080 So I did like super cursory search and came back, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:06.000 and I think I maybe I pitched you're doing one 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.160 of the shots, like the Depa Privera or whatever it's 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.760 later incarnations. You went in and you're like, give me 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.400 the most dangerous one, please. Yeah, truly, because I think 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:17.920 and I might be mixing them up. It's been a 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.880 long time since I've thought about these old school like 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.080 birth control methods, but I think that was the one 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.080 that you just took the shot like three or four 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.320 times a year, and you didn't get a cycle, you 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.080 didn't have a period. And so I was like, oh, 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.480 I want that. I want my life to stop being 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.200 sucked up once a month. And I'm trying to be 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.640 a gymnast from now long. Let's do let's do that 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:43.600 one exactly, just like get me on the high beam. Yeah. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.360 But so this woman like straight up sat me down 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.880 and was like, let me tell you the shady pass 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.000 with this stuff, and like walked me through everything. And 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.440 I thought, I have never heard a healthcare provider. I'm 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.440 sure they're great doctors who do that now, but I've 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.040 never heard a healthcare provider straight up be like, okay, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.160 you don't want this drug, and it's for like social political, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.520 fucked up reasons as opposed to just like maybe try 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.480 tricycle instead, it's better for your height and weight or whatever. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.680 Then I was like, oh, ship this and they're doing 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.320 it to black people. And then I think I just 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.040 extrapolated from there or like went down a YouTube rabbit 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.240 hole or something. I'm sure, right, I don't think I've 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.240 ever had a medical professional do that either, Like, that's 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.440 a pretty bold choice on their end to be like, yo, 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.320 not only is this potentially dangerous to your body, but 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.520 also think about all these people that they tested it 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.200 on or the ways that this drug came to be. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.000 That's not a conversation that I think medical professionals are 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.840 are wanting to have. Certainly, even having, they're probably not 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.000 supposed to do that. I mean, like I don't know 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.320 how like pharma sales works and ship, but like I 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.040 guess because they were like a hippie free clinic, they 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.440 could do whatever they wanted. But I do love the 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.520 idea that there's some dude from Big Farmer Lie waiting 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.840 in her office after she talks to you, just like Diane, 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.240 I heard what you said in there she's like, I 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.840 can't help myself. I gotta tell them about it. What 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:16.080 did we talk about, Diane? Oh? Sorry, like that that 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.880 guy hangs out in her office just waiting to scolder. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.880 He's like, you told him our big secret again, Diane. Yeah, 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.240 he's not like a good sinister dude. He's just like 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.120 a clumsy boss who's like, come on, you said you 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.640 wouldn't tell. Now he's sweet. I think, yeah, he's a 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.320 good Honestly, he's a good guy except for the fact 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.160 that he works for a billion dollar murder corporation. Everything 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.360 else about him is he's solid. Dude. Okay, so you 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.920 hear this, You go to this office, she breaks it 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.480 all down for you, and obviously you say, okay, cool, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.840 I'm not gonna take that one. Do you then go 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.440 back and like find yourself in like a YouTube uh 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.680 rabbit hole where you're like discovering all this truth? Are 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.800 you just like, Okay, that's information, and now I'm going 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.240 to go about my day. I'm struggling to remember because 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.440 this was probably like two thousand four is a long 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.280 time ago, but I think I probably heard enough to 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.680 be like, oh, they tested on people and that's fucked up. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.560 I probably went one step further with the Google into 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:27.399 like you know, hotel tree, the vent diagram of like 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.240 conspiracy theories that also aligns with like white women kind 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.560 of u c l A reproductive health hippie ladies can 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:40.360 sometimes get very very like a one circle. And yeah, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.399 there's there's probably a crossover between Dr Umar Johnson and 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.320 goog somewhere there's like a vent diagram where they meet. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.320 You know, for sure there's all a little bit of 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:55.480 like pseudo science, but it's because someone there's an oppressor, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:00.240 you know. So yeah, I think I went one are 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.080 deep and saw you know, got to the point of 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.640 like and they're doing this intentionally in order to sterilize 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.280 and control the population. And I just went, yeah, that's truth, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.439 and I just accepted it as truth as though that 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.200 medical professional had told me that part when she definitely 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.959 did not. I got you. That's where you were like, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.440 I got this doctor. Yeah, I'll take it from here. 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.199 I got enough information to now make some much bigger 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.800 conclusions from everything that you've said. Absolutely, and I'm sure 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.840 I've passed it off on on a podcast or something, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.560 just like it's accepted fact. Like I think the line 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.800 for me got blurred long ago, and it's probably not 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.640 until we decided to talk about this that I really 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.919 thought about, like, wait, what's the part that I actually heard, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.120 And what's the part that I like read in comments 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:53.120 on like a doctor. That doctor wasn't irresponsible at all. 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:57.359 It was me. I was the monster in this whole story. Yeah, yes, 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.879 I guess I did hand out flyers saying in fact, 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:07.640 I did start my campus this anti birth control organization, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.879 But otherwise I think I handled it pretty well. And 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.200 see that is where it goes full hotep right is 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.120 where it's like, then it becomes don't take any birth 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.199 control because it's all here to sterilize you with all 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.600 the white man trying to sterilize Black women just fully. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.560 Then goes away from like feminism and like body autonomy 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.920 to have like men telling us not to take birth 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.200 control because of like made up race ship. Yeah. I 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.880 don't know if you've ever heard this, but I certainly 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.720 heard it for years, was that one of the counter 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.639 arguments for Planned Parenthood that I always heard that was 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:45.040 specifically from black people, was that Planned Parenthood was an 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:50.120 organization spawned from eugenics, that this was like an organization 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:55.399 built by a person who intentionally wanted to like sterilize 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.120 the black and brown communities. Yeah, have you gone into 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.000 that whenever on the show or have you looked into 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.520 that one? We have not, no, but I I I'm 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.760 excited to dig into it if you got some thoughts 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.679 on it. I don't have any real vetted thoughts. But 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.520 what's interesting, I always heard that too, and now, as 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.760 like a grown thinking person, my brain goes two ways, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.200 and I could have learned this with a simple Google. 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:20.520 I'm sure I I did not do that, dear listener, 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:26.200 so sorry. It could be that someone who was a 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.960 believer in eugenics, even a proponent of it, was there 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.400 at the start of Planned Parenthood, and then the organization 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.040 turned into what we know it as now, which is 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.479 just healthcare for women and people who can't get pregnant. 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.640 But the other part of my brain goes, so, if 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.960 this isn't true at all, if there was no one 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.960 involved in eugenics, the point of this conspiracy theory, like 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.800 the reason things like this gets seated now on Reddit 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:52.439 in places like that, But back in the day, the 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.240 reason why these things get floated around to the black 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.240 community is to push the anti choice agenda. Is to 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:01.199 push the idea that abortion is bad. You know, choice 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.800 is bad because it's you know, spawned from planned parenthood, 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.520 which is trying to sterilize us. And we know that 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.680 black people are a faith filled group of people in general. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.199 So the idea of pushing the anti choice agenda and 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.440 that all ties back to I will never not say this. 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.040 It all ties back to the fact that when people 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:22.919 who can get pregnant have children that are unplanned at 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.359 an early age or at an unplanned time in their life, 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:30.480 they are significantly less likely to pursue higher education, pursue 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.560 advanced careers, and they are way more likely to vote GOP. 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.320 So there's nothing about it that is, oh, we have 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.160 to save a life to feed us. It's a life. 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:44.000 It is strictly a way to funnel people out of education, 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.080 out of the workforce, and into the cold, dead, stupid 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.600 arms of the GOP. Yeah, I think to your point, 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.960 there is so much of it that is just rooted 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.520 and intentional manipulation. And so even if there was some 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.879 person that was a part of the inception of planned 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:07.720 parenthood that did have eugenics ideals, right, they're not involved anymore. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:12.360 They're not like leading the charge for what Planned Parenthood represents, 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.840 and so it's the it's no different than when the 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.720 fucking like Republicans go. You know, a Lincoln was a Republican. 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.639 It's like, yeah, my fucker, but y'all wouldn't rocking with 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.720 the same politics. You just had the same title and 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:27.400 that title change. You know. The Democrats were the ones 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.000 that were in charge of slavery, and it's like, yeah, 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.720 but they like a different kind of slavery now, lette 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:38.440 it's flavored different. Yeah, I totally agree. It's like even 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.560 if that person was involved, and again I could have 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.760 googled this, I didn't if it wasn't involved early on 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.000