1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean my dad. He used to play a game 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: with me where he would kind of like lie and 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: wait like an ambush in the hallways in our house, 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: out a corner in our house. This sounds like abuse. 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: I gotta say it was not amused. We have a 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: good relationship. He's a good man. But he would I 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: was a kid, and he would pop out and just 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: like incapacitating it some way and be like how do 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: you get out of it? And you always got hair, 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: so I love that so much, and just popping around 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: a corner and be like, have been ready to be ready? 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: Now you thought it was always some real like you know, 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: behind the Dubno's pizza style like karate moves he was 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: teaching me they were not real karate because then when 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: I did go to a real karate class, tried to 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: show them my quote foot self defense, they were like, 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: what is this? Gett of ship? It's like, you can't 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: just buy the man's inner, die, Tony, that's not karate. 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: That's just the thing your daddy said to dude. That's 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: just street fighting from the sixth Days, Johnny chips in 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: your racist money intern stuff. You can't tell me, Yeah, yeah, 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: podcast where we've died deep, deep, deep into the pockets 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories and we work to finally find 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: out Oprah's favorite flavor of orphan blood. Which orphan does 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: she like to drink the most? Personally, I think she 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: likes Icelandic orphan blood. That would be my guest. I know, 29 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say, well, Oprah clearly hates the 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: black community. She would obviously drink the blood of small 31 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: black children where she does. But the truth is Oprah 32 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: wants something excited. She wants to taste that rare blood. 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: And there's nothing rarer than a little Icelandic baby without 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: a family. That's what Oprah's into. That's the rumor I'm spreading. Hey, 35 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: it's me. It's your host, lenksne Kerry. As always, I 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: don't know why I talked like this. It's a complicated 37 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: algorithm that turned me into the person I am today. 38 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: But you know who's not a trash person, You know 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: who doesn't talk like an insane person constantly. It's my 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: guest today, She's fantastic. You know her from Space Force, 41 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: you know her from Star Trek, Lower Decks, you know 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: her from She basically has a monopoly on all black 43 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: ladies space stuff. At this point, she's hilarious. You love her, 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: you know her. Give it up for Tawny Newsom. Everybody. Yes, 45 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: you're they're here. They adore you. How are you showed up? 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. That's I mean, that's the opposite 47 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: of what I told you what I logged into the 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: zoom off Mike, I think I said, And then I'm good. 49 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: You turned it up for the audience you are like, yeah, 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: you're a completely different person behind the scenes. You got 51 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: a real ellen degenerous vibe about you at this point, 52 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: given the shift. If you but I flip it, I'm 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: a monster for everything public facing and then in private 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: amount kin sure, so shut the funk up, Shut the 55 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: funk up, and watch me dance real mad to this music. 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of music, this theme song is perfect, perfect, Oh 57 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much. It was done by a hilarious 58 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: comedian and very talented man. I always say he's the 59 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: most talented person I know, this guy, Nick Chambers, who 60 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: was a comedian out in New York Now and I 61 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: resent him very much for having so many gifts. He 62 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: did the artwork for our show, he did the music 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: for our show, and he has all the hatred that's 64 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: bubbling in my heart for the skills it I don't have. Sure, 65 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: but it's good to have someone like that in your 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: corner rather than against you. Sure, exactly. He is like 67 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: a member of the Expendables for me, you know what 68 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, He's my Sylvester Stallone if you will, m hm, 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: I've heard of that movie. It's a movie, it's it's 70 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: three movies, it's a it's a powerful franchise at this point. Wow, 71 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: I have been asleep on that. I'm sorry. I didn't 72 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: know what that was. And to be honest, you didn't 73 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: come here to talk expendables. That's a different podcast. Would 74 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: turn that down. I can't. I'm busy. I can't do it. 75 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, just because I didn't know, not because 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I have anything against it. I don't know it. Sure, 77 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: good for you for having that level of self control 78 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm gonna step out of this one. Guys, 79 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: this isn't for me. I just signed up and been like, yeah, 80 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: let's talk. I don't know I'll bet Yeah, I'm excited 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: to get an excited feels like almost the wrong phrasing here, 82 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: But I am eager to get into the conspiracy theory 83 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: that you sent our way, because it I would say, 84 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: it's a pretty heavy one. It's a sturdy conspiracy theory 85 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: to be digging into. But you said, my mama told 86 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: me breath control trials in Africa are being used for masterialization. 87 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: It is heavy. Hearing it out loud feels different than 88 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: when you just type some stuff and go, hey, can 89 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: we talk about this. Hearing it out loud, I'm like, 90 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: birth control, child sterilization, Africa. These are big words, these 91 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: are big ideas. This is a deep ship we're talking about. Yeah, 92 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: So this one walks the line of like, I don't 93 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: know how much conspiracy theory it really is just or 94 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: is it just like a little bit of extrapolation on facts, 95 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: because the facts are that they did, you know, test 96 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: drugs like depo provera with women my age might know, 97 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: as like the birth control shot, which was available I 98 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: think in the nineties. I don't know they tested that 99 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: on women in then called Rhodesia, I guess Zimbabwe in 100 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: the seventies and the women were coerced into taking it, 101 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, they were asked to take it in exchange 102 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: for things they needed like food and water, medical supplies 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it wasn't you know, the trials weren't 104 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: on the up and up to say the least. And 105 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: then there was also there was the other one nor plant. 106 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: They used to test that out on women, but you know, 107 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: all these women had these massive side effects and a 108 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: lot of women became sterile. And it's not that far 109 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: of a job to be like hm hmm. So this 110 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: is a whole continent where for centuries missionaries and well 111 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: meaning whites have been going down there and being like, oh, 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: the African people, such a vibrant people, you know, the 113 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: whole monolith, the whole continent. What a vibrant people. But 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: if they could only control their population. They can't even 115 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: feed these children, you know, and so there's we could 116 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: just if we could just get these savages too, maybe 117 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: produce a little less because they make they make such 118 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: beautiful baskets, Just fewer children. Let's sneak some ship into 119 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: their morning breakfast, you know, like it's not that far fetched. 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: I have none. So this is a reckless theory. No, 121 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: and and let's let's start right from where you started, 122 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: right from the beginning. I think. I think when I 123 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: originally read your conspiracy theory, I was like, Okay, this 124 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: is just true. This is just like and again my 125 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: brain is filled with nonsense. So I immediately was like, fact, 126 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: what are we doing? This is she doesn't know how 127 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories were, but I do think that to your point, 128 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: it sort of is one of those things that is 129 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: hedging both truth and conspiracy theory that like, the truth 130 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: is that these trials are a hundred percent real. The 131 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: question is what was the intention behind these trials? Was it, 132 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: in fact, for popular lation control or was it just like, oh, 133 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: y'all were trying some stuff out and it went awry, right, 134 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: You're just trying some ship out on people. You felt 135 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: like we're expendable basically, which is sinister in and of itself, 136 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: And that is definitely what happened. So even the truth 137 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: is real, dark and fucked up, You're you're welcome for 138 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: me picking this one. And the consiracy theory is like 139 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: fucking you know, villainous and sinister. Yeah, I mean, I 140 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: just fully believe it. I feel like I don't even 141 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: need This is one of those dangerous ones where I'm 142 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: just like, I don't even need proof. I hear it. 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what they're doing. They're trying to 144 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: kill us all. And that's the hard ones to sort 145 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: of wrestle with, right is Like even if in some 146 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: conversation with the person they were like, well, actually, this 147 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: is the true thing behind what you're saying, or here's 148 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: some facts you may not have considered, there's still a 149 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: part of you that's like, no, my fucker, I know 150 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: I You can try to trick me all you want 151 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: into thinking that, Like white people had a more or 152 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: ground in their approach to giving drugs to people who 153 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: didn't realize they were taking these kinds of drugs or 154 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: this severe of a drug. But now you know what 155 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: you were doing. You know what you're doing because this 156 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: ship was like the seventies, Like, yes, it's been going 157 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: on long before that, but this specific birth control ship, 158 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: this is the seventies. You know where else you could 159 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: have tested out your brand new fangled birth control drug, Boston, bitch, 160 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Like try it out in Massachusetts and see how women do? 161 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: You got this white ass state Maine filled with with 162 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: twothless Hillbillies. You can test it on them. Shout out 163 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: to Maine. My bad, I didn't realize that's where your 164 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: fan base was located. Oh yeah, I get a lot 165 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: of a lot of hits and streams from Maine. No, 166 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: but truly, truly, if it's all innocent, there's people everywhere 167 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: you could get white women from. You know, all kinds 168 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: of places, you get all kinds of colors of women. 169 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to go to a whole last continent 170 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: that that has been tested on for centuries. I don't know, 171 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: but this is the sort of thing that like makes 172 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: me wary of trying out anything, Like, yeah, the COVID 173 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: vaccine trot. No, no, I'm waiting like that. I'm gonna 174 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: stop you right there. That's how they get you. I'm terrified. 175 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I'm terrified of that vaccine. And not 176 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: because I think to your point. I think I want 177 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: to take it right, like I want to be free 178 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: of whatever this is. Boy, would I love to get 179 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: back to doing stand up and being out in the 180 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: world and like going to clubs and parties with my 181 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: friends and ship. But at the same time, there is 182 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: just too much history of manipulation with falsey drugs for 183 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: me to feel confident that putting this needle in my 184 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: body is just gonna be an a okay decision. Yea yeah. 185 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: I mean, especially with those reports of them giving ship 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: for free to all the hbc U s, It's like, 187 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: this is not for this is not free. Everyone be suspicious, 188 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: be suspicious. Why are you get all these black college 189 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: students again, Boston. There's a lot of calls Boston, right, 190 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to give it to the Harvard kids, 191 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: get to the lesser colleges that you've got all these 192 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: new masses around there that you could clearly give this 193 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: drug to. Now, Leason, you keep taking what I'm saying, 194 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: and you kissed that I'm gonna get in true. Listen, 195 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: I think what Dawny is trying to say is give 196 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: it to the white pores. Wait wait, wait, wait wait 197 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: now wait. She's being very clear and I'm not manipulating 198 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: this at all. She is articulating herself perfectly. I am 199 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: merely backing her up. I'm a pip, She's glad it's night. 200 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: This is this is a clear conversation. Wait, were you 201 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: really a pip? Oh? In the no I was for 202 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: our listeners. We were in Sherman Showcase, a wonderful show 203 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: on Hulu. Now I have seen Hulu and you play 204 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Diana Raw Yes, you were smoking right. I was Smokey Robinson, 205 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: that's right, perfect. And I was constantly wavering between making 206 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: a full commitment to a smokey Robinson voice or just 207 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: letting my regular voice be because you know, when you're 208 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: doing a character, it's like, Okay, am I gonna be 209 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: fully in the character and do like a Jay Pharaoh impression? 210 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: Or am I just gonna like be funny by my 211 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, in my own voice as is. I think 212 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: we were all like one foot in and out of 213 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: the full commitment on that. I will say I was 214 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: truly stunned in the most impressed possible way with your 215 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: Diana Ross impression. It felt, oh, thank you, I feel 216 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: like the same thing as you. I was like doing 217 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: the breathy voice and the whispy walk, and then every 218 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: now and then I'd just be like, man, this, I 219 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's that's just me a little boy. Okay. 220 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: Talk to me about where you first became aware of 221 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: this conspiracy theory. When did this first come to your world? 222 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,119 Speaker 1: If you will. So I was in college in Chicago 223 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: and I didn't have any money and I didn't have 224 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: any health insurance, and I needed to go for my 225 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: yearly like pops mirror, and so I went to this 226 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: really cool clinic. I don't know if they're still in business, 227 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: but they were called the Chicago Women's Health Center, and 228 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: everybody on campus knew about them because you could go 229 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: and they had like a sliding scale office visit, so 230 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: you could show up and pay zero dollars, you could 231 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: pay forty dollars whatever, and everyone, Yeah, it was a 232 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: really cool resource. I used them a lot when I 233 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't have insurance. They would sit there with you for 234 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: an hour and talk to Every appointment was like an hour, 235 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, and they would talk to you about 236 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: all your birth control options. They would talk to you 237 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: about health stuff. They just like took away the stigma 238 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: about talking about those things. So I went to them 239 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: and I was looking for I wasn't even looking for 240 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: birth control, but they were like, oh, well, if you're active, 241 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: do you want to get on some? And I was 242 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: like sure, I've never really taken it before. And they 243 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: were like, well, why don't you research some? And come back. 244 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: So I did like super cursory search and came back, 245 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: and I think I maybe I pitched you're doing one 246 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: of the shots, like the Depa Privera or whatever it's 247 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: later incarnations. You went in and you're like, give me 248 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the most dangerous one, please. Yeah, truly, because I think 249 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: and I might be mixing them up. It's been a 250 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: long time since I've thought about these old school like 251 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: birth control methods, but I think that was the one 252 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: that you just took the shot like three or four 253 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: times a year, and you didn't get a cycle, you 254 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: didn't have a period. And so I was like, oh, 255 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: I want that. I want my life to stop being 256 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: sucked up once a month. And I'm trying to be 257 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: a gymnast from now long. Let's do let's do that 258 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: one exactly, just like get me on the high beam. Yeah. 259 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: But so this woman like straight up sat me down 260 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and was like, let me tell you the shady pass 261 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: with this stuff, and like walked me through everything. And 262 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: I thought, I have never heard a healthcare provider. I'm 263 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: sure they're great doctors who do that now, but I've 264 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: never heard a healthcare provider straight up be like, okay, 265 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: you don't want this drug, and it's for like social political, 266 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: fucked up reasons as opposed to just like maybe try 267 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: tricycle instead, it's better for your height and weight or whatever. 268 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Then I was like, oh, ship this and they're doing 269 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: it to black people. And then I think I just 270 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: extrapolated from there or like went down a YouTube rabbit 271 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: hole or something. I'm sure, right, I don't think I've 272 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: ever had a medical professional do that either, Like, that's 273 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: a pretty bold choice on their end to be like, yo, 274 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: not only is this potentially dangerous to your body, but 275 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: also think about all these people that they tested it 276 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: on or the ways that this drug came to be. 277 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: That's not a conversation that I think medical professionals are 278 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: are wanting to have. Certainly, even having, they're probably not 279 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: supposed to do that. I mean, like I don't know 280 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: how like pharma sales works and ship, but like I 281 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: guess because they were like a hippie free clinic, they 282 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: could do whatever they wanted. But I do love the 283 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: idea that there's some dude from Big Farmer Lie waiting 284 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: in her office after she talks to you, just like Diane, 285 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I heard what you said in there she's like, I 286 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: can't help myself. I gotta tell them about it. What 287 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: did we talk about, Diane? Oh? Sorry, like that that 288 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: guy hangs out in her office just waiting to scolder. 289 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: He's like, you told him our big secret again, Diane. Yeah, 290 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: he's not like a good sinister dude. He's just like 291 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: a clumsy boss who's like, come on, you said you 292 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell. Now he's sweet. I think, yeah, he's a 293 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: good Honestly, he's a good guy except for the fact 294 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: that he works for a billion dollar murder corporation. Everything 295 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: else about him is he's solid. Dude. Okay, so you 296 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: hear this, You go to this office, she breaks it 297 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: all down for you, and obviously you say, okay, cool, 298 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take that one. Do you then go 299 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: back and like find yourself in like a YouTube uh 300 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: rabbit hole where you're like discovering all this truth? Are 301 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: you just like, Okay, that's information, and now I'm going 302 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: to go about my day. I'm struggling to remember because 303 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: this was probably like two thousand four is a long 304 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: time ago, but I think I probably heard enough to 305 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: be like, oh, they tested on people and that's fucked up. 306 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: I probably went one step further with the Google into 307 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: like you know, hotel tree, the vent diagram of like 308 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that also aligns with like white women kind 309 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: of u c l A reproductive health hippie ladies can 310 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: sometimes get very very like a one circle. And yeah, 311 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: there's there's probably a crossover between Dr Umar Johnson and 312 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: goog somewhere there's like a vent diagram where they meet. 313 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, for sure there's all a little bit of 314 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: like pseudo science, but it's because someone there's an oppressor, 315 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I think I went one are 316 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: deep and saw you know, got to the point of 317 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: like and they're doing this intentionally in order to sterilize 318 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: and control the population. And I just went, yeah, that's truth, 319 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: and I just accepted it as truth as though that 320 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: medical professional had told me that part when she definitely 321 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: did not. I got you. That's where you were like, 322 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: I got this doctor. Yeah, I'll take it from here. 323 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: I got enough information to now make some much bigger 324 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: conclusions from everything that you've said. Absolutely, and I'm sure 325 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: I've passed it off on on a podcast or something, 326 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: just like it's accepted fact. Like I think the line 327 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: for me got blurred long ago, and it's probably not 328 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: until we decided to talk about this that I really 329 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: thought about, like, wait, what's the part that I actually heard, 330 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: And what's the part that I like read in comments 331 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: on like a doctor. That doctor wasn't irresponsible at all. 332 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: It was me. I was the monster in this whole story. Yeah, yes, 333 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: I guess I did hand out flyers saying in fact, 334 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: I did start my campus this anti birth control organization, 335 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: But otherwise I think I handled it pretty well. And 336 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: see that is where it goes full hotep right is 337 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: where it's like, then it becomes don't take any birth 338 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: control because it's all here to sterilize you with all 339 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: the white man trying to sterilize Black women just fully. 340 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Then goes away from like feminism and like body autonomy 341 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: to have like men telling us not to take birth 342 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: control because of like made up race ship. Yeah. I 343 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever heard this, but I certainly 344 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: heard it for years, was that one of the counter 345 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: arguments for Planned Parenthood that I always heard that was 346 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: specifically from black people, was that Planned Parenthood was an 347 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: organization spawned from eugenics, that this was like an organization 348 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: built by a person who intentionally wanted to like sterilize 349 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: the black and brown communities. Yeah, have you gone into 350 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: that whenever on the show or have you looked into 351 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: that one? We have not, no, but I I I'm 352 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: excited to dig into it if you got some thoughts 353 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: on it. I don't have any real vetted thoughts. But 354 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: what's interesting, I always heard that too, and now, as 355 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: like a grown thinking person, my brain goes two ways, 356 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: and I could have learned this with a simple Google. 357 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure I I did not do that, dear listener, 358 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: so sorry. It could be that someone who was a 359 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: believer in eugenics, even a proponent of it, was there 360 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: at the start of Planned Parenthood, and then the organization 361 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: turned into what we know it as now, which is 362 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: just healthcare for women and people who can't get pregnant. 363 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: But the other part of my brain goes, so, if 364 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: this isn't true at all, if there was no one 365 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: involved in eugenics, the point of this conspiracy theory, like 366 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: the reason things like this gets seated now on Reddit 367 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: in places like that, But back in the day, the 368 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: reason why these things get floated around to the black 369 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: community is to push the anti choice agenda. Is to 370 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: push the idea that abortion is bad. You know, choice 371 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: is bad because it's you know, spawned from planned parenthood, 372 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: which is trying to sterilize us. And we know that 373 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: black people are a faith filled group of people in general. 374 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: So the idea of pushing the anti choice agenda and 375 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: that all ties back to I will never not say this. 376 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: It all ties back to the fact that when people 377 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: who can get pregnant have children that are unplanned at 378 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: an early age or at an unplanned time in their life, 379 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: they are significantly less likely to pursue higher education, pursue 380 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: advanced careers, and they are way more likely to vote GOP. 381 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: So there's nothing about it that is, oh, we have 382 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: to save a life to feed us. It's a life. 383 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: It is strictly a way to funnel people out of education, 384 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: out of the workforce, and into the cold, dead, stupid 385 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: arms of the GOP. Yeah, I think to your point, 386 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: there is so much of it that is just rooted 387 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: and intentional manipulation. And so even if there was some 388 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: person that was a part of the inception of planned 389 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: parenthood that did have eugenics ideals, right, they're not involved anymore. 390 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: They're not like leading the charge for what Planned Parenthood represents, 391 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: and so it's the it's no different than when the 392 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: fucking like Republicans go. You know, a Lincoln was a Republican. 393 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, my fucker, but y'all wouldn't rocking with 394 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: the same politics. You just had the same title and 395 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: that title change. You know. The Democrats were the ones 396 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: that were in charge of slavery, and it's like, yeah, 397 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: but they like a different kind of slavery now, lette 398 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: it's flavored different. Yeah, I totally agree. It's like even 399 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: if that person was involved, and again I could have 400 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: googled this, I didn't if it wasn't involved early on 401 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: the net. Good that an organization like Planned Parenthood has 402 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: done now far outweighs whoever fucking started it. And like, yeah, 403 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: population control in that way has not been proven. I'm 404 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: far more likely to believe this type of ship is 405 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: more it's proven because it's not happening on our soil 406 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: right right that maybe they're testing. Oh we'll get into that, 407 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: but I will say that to your point, it is 408 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: a lot easier for them to get away with these 409 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: things in spaces where we're less willing to check or 410 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: even less willing to care then, like right in front 411 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: of us. And you could argue that right in front 412 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: of us, uh is super subjective because they don't give 413 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: a funk about the neighborhoods that are like legit adjacent 414 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: to the ones that they live in. But that's a 415 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: different layer of the conversation. I think to your ultimate point, 416 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: the want is manipulation. It is completely to control and 417 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: trick and take advantage of the groups of people that 418 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: they're telling this somewhat false information too. Yeah, so I 419 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: have you on my side, then you believe my conspiracy. Oh. 420 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: First of all, let me be clear, I believe almost 421 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: every conspiracy theory, and you are not special. I was 422 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: bought in before you even got into it. But but 423 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: I will say you have done a phenomenal job of 424 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: selling me in a reasonable way that makes me believe 425 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: it for good reason and not just because I'm a 426 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: defiant human being. Oh yes, I love that. I love 427 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: when Yeah, I love when I can win over someone 428 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: rooted in ridiculousness. Sure, I love it. I love when 429 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: I get a cartoon character to agree with me. What 430 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: a dream. Let me ask you that this last question 431 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: before we go to break when you've talked about the 432 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: injection and specifically like getting this information from this medical professional, 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: going back and saying I no longer plan to you know, 434 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: get at least this version of birth control. Did that 435 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: taint your relationship with birth control from that point forward 436 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: where you then like weary of all birth control, where 437 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: you like, no, just that one, I'm good, I'm on chill. 438 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, you're right. It totally made my brain spiral 439 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: and go, this is just the ship we noble about. 440 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: This is just the ship they're telling us. And it 441 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: made me go, all this ship is fucked up. They're 442 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: trying to sterilize all of it. Like. It definitely made 443 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: me paranoid, And I did end up using a couple 444 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: of different types throughout my life, but like I would 445 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: be lying if I said I didn't. Still, every time 446 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: there's a new ad for some new birth control, I'm like, 447 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: where'd that come from? Where they test that? What's the 448 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: secret behind that one? So I love that. I love 449 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: the idea of you watching those commercials where it's some 450 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: lady playing in the park because she ain't got a baby, 451 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: she gets to be as she wants to be, and 452 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: you're just like na there's some sinister ship going on here. 453 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Know what happened in Swazzi Land though, what they do 454 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: in Land, I don't trust it. I guess we should 455 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: be doing that for all drugs though, like fun drugs. 456 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think that's true. That should be 457 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: the instinct in watching every single drug commercial. Too. Many 458 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: of these commercials are literally just a list of horrifying 459 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: things that will happen to your body. And we're just like, well, 460 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess if it's gonna make me 461 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: smile a little more than I smiled yesterday, take some 462 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: diarrhe you know, I'll take a little diarrhea if it 463 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: means I'm gonna smile while materios instead of be all 464 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: frowny and stuff. Oh god, just yeah, torso numbness. That 465 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: doesn't seem so bad for me. I can't feel my 466 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: my middle section, But god damn do I smile. You 467 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: can wipe the feeling out of my body, but you 468 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: can't wipe this smile off of my face. Thank you, 469 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: drug Vera. All right, we're gonna take a break and 470 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: we'll be back with more Tony news and more my 471 00:26:51,600 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: mama told me, and we are that's supposed to meet 472 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: his meat with this ship. Bro, What the fuck? Hell yeah, 473 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: we're back here with more tawny news to more my 474 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: mama told me, we're still talking about the risk, the danger, 475 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: the sinister work that birth control and the operators of 476 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: birth control are doing in the background, potentially sterilizing entire 477 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: nations of people, entire continents of people. So besides Zim, 478 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: was it Zimbabwe that you said was where they initially 479 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember if that was nor Plant or depor provera, 480 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: but it was in the seventies and it was when 481 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: it was called Rhodesia, and that's where they were like 482 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: really coercing women to like, hey, try this new thing. 483 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Were there other nations where you were hearing that a 484 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: similar thing was happening or was it just there? No? 485 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: But I do feel like any time I have a 486 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: really close friend who works in reproductive health, and I 487 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: feel like she's been in this field for a long 488 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: time time, and so if I mentioned these things like 489 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: in a stupid flippant way, she speaks about them in 490 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: a casual, very knowledge filled way where she's just like, oh, yeah, 491 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, well, of course, the thing that happened in Kenya, 492 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: and I'm always kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, So 493 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I pretend to know, but I don't actually know. But 494 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: I do get a sense that there are multiple accounts 495 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: of drug trials like this from a lot of different countries. 496 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: There are. And this brings us, I think, in a 497 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: in a very smooth, not at all set up way 498 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: to the research that I did. And I'm so glad 499 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: that you mentioned Kenya, because Kenya is in fact one 500 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: of the places where, at least in the research that 501 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: I did, it seems that a very sinister effort was 502 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: made on the part of not only like the government 503 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 1: as it were, but like the World Health Organization and 504 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: the United Nations seemed to like team up on some 505 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: like super friendship to try to just basically test and 506 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: ruin the lives of these Kenyan women. Oh ship. See 507 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: I define we did not know this. And I said, 508 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: ken you like just taking a shot in the at 509 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: the dart board of Africa, and little sister, you nailed it. 510 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: You guys, you did it. It was the correct answer 511 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: for either giraffes or birth control trials on women that 512 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: lead to sterilization. Those were your two options. So I'll 513 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: run you through what I found in the early nineties, 514 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: researchers figured out that basically, by mixing these two drugs, 515 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: this human chronic gondo trope in I don't know words, 516 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: with the tetanus shot, they created a permanent sterilization for 517 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: women under the guise of like an effective tetanus vaccine. 518 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: That like, they could fake a tetanus vaccine and then 519 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: simultaneously sterilize a lady at the exact same time. And 520 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: so they took this vaccine. The United Nations and the 521 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: World Health Organization teamed up and they took this vaccine 522 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: to basically be carried out in Mexico, in the Philippines 523 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: and Nicaraguan and then Peru. And so one of the 524 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: things that was sort of an issue with this vaccine, 525 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: even though it worked effectively to sterilize these women, it 526 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: took five shots to do it, which is a big 527 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: ask in a developing country to ask women to come 528 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: back for five separate shots over the course of six months. 529 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: But they figured out a way to promote tetanus vaccines 530 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: in the country to be like, you gotta get a 531 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: tetanus vaccine. This is a big deal. Tetanus is everywhere, 532 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: blah blah, blah everywhere. Yeah, look at on the metal, 533 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: you can get cut. You got to come get this vaccine. 534 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: And so they're promoting this and women are going to 535 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: get it. And the only reason they got caught is 536 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: because doctors, like local doctors much like the one that 537 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: stepped in in your life, were like, Yo, the normal 538 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: tetanus vaccine only takes two to three shots. Why are 539 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: y'all asking them to five shots for an otherwise similar vaccine? 540 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: And so then the World Health Organization and United Nations 541 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: like packed up their ship and we're like, uh, I 542 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: don't know what happened by and just oh my god. 543 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: So this is real. This is not even a conspiracy. 544 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: This is a real These are facts. These are a 545 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent facts. And so here's where it gets even crazier, 546 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: because that's happening in the early to mid nineties, right, 547 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: Peru is the last one that's now in the World 548 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: Health Organization and United Nations team up again to do 549 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: the exact same thing in Kenya. They go to Kenya 550 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to to basically replicate to bring it back like they 551 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're bringing back the fresh Prince. They're bringing 552 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: back this tetanus trial and and they go to Kenya 553 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: to try it out again, and the only reason again 554 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: they get caught is because a bunch of Kenyan officials 555 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: are like, no, there's history, which' all you look, we're 556 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: all for like helping our people and getting the vaccinated 557 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: and healthy and blah blah blah. But whatever you're doing, 558 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: it ain't sitting right with us. And they they get exposed. 559 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: This is why, this is why it's a slippery slope 560 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: to becoming an anti vaxer, because it's just one more 561 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: click over to wild thought land to be like, well 562 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: you can't trust any vaccine. Then they're all trying to 563 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: do something to farious, right, Like how do you maintain 564 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: a sensible brain when nefarious ship like this is going on? Sure? 565 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: And so here's where it's gonna make you even more 566 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: of an anti vaxer if you weren't already. Again, I'm 567 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: not an anti baxor are going to kill my career, Tonny. 568 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: Everything you said has been cleared. You're opposed to vaccines. 569 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: McCarty is your favorite actress. Everything you said, my publicist 570 00:32:52,720 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: is calling me right now. Are you live streaming this? Okay, 571 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: So it's not so much next, but it's actually more 572 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: of the history of this type of sterilization in America, 573 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: that like, this is not the foreign sort of like 574 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: dangerous thing for other countries that we've been sort of 575 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: like framing it as it's one something that has been 576 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: happening in America and continues to happen in America. Beginning 577 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen o nine and continuing through the nineteen seventies, 578 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: the US developed a number of something basically called a 579 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: sexualization Acts, which lead to more than twenty thousand sterilizations 580 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: in California alone, just California. These are actual laws being created. 581 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: What what's the end game was? It? Was it racially motivated? 582 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: Were they trying to control certain aspects of the population 583 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: or just population control in general. It absolutely was a 584 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: form of population control, and I think what you're asking 585 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: as an imp and one, but it was rooted in 586 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: sort of like getting rid of what they basically considered 587 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: traits that were not ideal in human human beings, so 588 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: like it's a form of eugenics. But it was like 589 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: basically saying, this type of person tends to be more violent, 590 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: or less hard working, or less less of an asset 591 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: to the human experience, and therefore we will control their 592 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: population and not allow them to have more children. And 593 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: got it. Obviously who they picked was more often than 594 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: not black and brown people. Sure, because they're like, okay, 595 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: so we just want a collection of really great traits 596 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: for the human race. So let's not have any like, um, 597 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: what is it like wide noses or like, you know, 598 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: like full lips, like kinky hair is definitely not going 599 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: to take us to victory as a human race. Okay, 600 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: what is that? Like? Just bandlicking different words? I'm not 601 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to pick a race. I don't want 602 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: to pick a race. That's not my style. It's not 603 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: about certain things I like in, certain things that I 604 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: think are just more important than more hirable, you know, 605 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Like I just think that very fair, just very burnable skin, 606 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: just skin that can't even hear about the sun, I 607 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: think is the most professional. So what makes it even 608 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: more fascinating is that in nineteen seven, one of the 609 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: reasons that this became like a big deal is that 610 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: in this Lady Carry Buck, who's this poor white lady 611 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: in Virginia is sterilized under a new law that the 612 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: Virginia government approves. The reason they sterilized Carry is that 613 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: Carrie's mother had been involuntary institutionalized for being what they 614 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: called basically promiscuous and crazy. Like they were basically calling 615 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: her like a loose nutcase um and carry was assumed 616 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: to have inherited those exact same traits and was sterilized 617 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: after giving birth. That they were like, your mom was wild. 618 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: We can't rise it, and so you being wild, We're 619 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: gonna cut that off. Oh my god, we're passing a 620 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: law called an end to the crazy fast bitches. Uh 621 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: you fast. You can't have children anymore. Old on now, 622 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm titties out and you're talking a little while. We 623 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: might have to sterilize you. We might have to put 624 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: you down. Every uncle in that state voted for this, 625 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: of course, just every uncle. And you know there's something, 626 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: there's something sick in them. Where it was not only 627 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: did they want to sterilize them to keep them from reproducing, 628 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: but it also was like, also, I'm trying to fun 629 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: and not have any repercussions. I'm trying to I'm trying 630 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: to bust the nut and and not have any risks 631 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: on the other end of like being punished by having 632 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: some baby with a crazy lady. And we were worried 633 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: this topic would be too dark. But we're doing great, 634 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: We're doing We're killing it. I'm so proud of us. 635 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Let's see how long we can maintain this, because they 636 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: kids getting darker now. In this same period, between the 637 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties and the nineteen seventies, this Supreme Court case, 638 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: the one with Carrie buck Lad because she loses the case, right, 639 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: she basically like complains that, hey, this is fucked up. 640 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: I should have never been sterilized, and takes it all 641 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: the way to the Supreme Court and loses. And then 642 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: that case basically like solidifies this law into place and 643 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: leads to the sterilization of sixty five thousand Americans with 644 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: mental health illnesses and developmental disabilities from the nineteen twenties 645 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: to the nineteen seventies. I can't even process that. Sixty 646 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: five thousand people all because this lady's mom had a 647 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: hard time and she had a baby who wasn't having 648 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: a hard time, who was fine, who was fine, And 649 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: they thought that ship was genetic. They thought, like, what 650 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: was surely just the pressures and stressors of the time 651 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: of being a woman in the time and being poor 652 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: that made her run her mouth probably Yeah, they thought 653 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: that that ship was genetic. Oh my god, I would 654 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: have been murdered. I couldn't be from the past. If 655 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: I live, I couldn't be from the past. Is maybe 656 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: my favorite quote anybody's ever said out loud, Hey dog, 657 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't be from the past. They would murder, murder me, 658 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: like real murder. Oh man. This is where it gets 659 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: even crazier is that there's also something called Mississippi appendectomies. 660 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: Have you heard of a Mississippi appendectomy? No, of course 661 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: it is not, Although it does sound delicious. It sounds 662 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: like it's gonna hit you in as spotty that none 663 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: of us know where it is in your body and 664 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: like get your real fucked up. But a Mississippi app 665 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: index to me, and we've talked about this once before 666 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: in the podcast, but the Mississippi app indect me was 667 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: a name for an unnecessary hysterectomy performed on black women, 668 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: specifically at teaching hospitals in the South that like, basically 669 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: they were teaching medical students how to like do stuff 670 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: as medical professionals, and in the process also taking women's 671 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: uteruses out. Jesus did I know the answer to this? 672 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: But did the women know the women? Of course, of course, 673 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why I asked that. I just needed 674 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: I needed to ask it, and I don't know why. 675 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: I love the idea though, that they sat her down 676 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: and like, miss Johnson, I know you came in here 677 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: to get your tonsils out, but we've got some other 678 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: exciting opportunities that we're laying out for you. Is it optional? No, 679 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: it is not. Miss uh. We're gonna take that uterus, 680 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: but you should know before we do it. Jesus. I mean, well, 681 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm shocked. I mean, it's happening now. 682 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: The story about the ice detention centers where they're direct 683 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: me is happening. And I think because I was already 684 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: bought into the now not so conspiracies out of this 685 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. You know, it's obviously so upsetting and horrifying, 686 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: but I absolutely was not shocked to read it. Yes, 687 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like, all right, 688 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, but damn, this hurts my heart. To 689 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: your point, it's like a tragic thing because we want 690 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: to believe that, like, Okay, we worked through this ship. 691 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: We got to a point where like at least as 692 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: a civilization. We're not just going to steal women's uteruses 693 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: in their sleep. If we're gonna mistreat people, will do 694 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: it when they're awake and they're at least like aware 695 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: of what's happening to them. But you know, it's quite 696 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: the opposite. It's like very sinister, intentional shit that's been 697 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: happening for hundreds of years. That's fucking wild. Yeah, it's wild. 698 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: The way that we treat people who we don't think 699 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: are hours like as a country, and that includes immigrants 700 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: and people who aren't citizens, but also just like black 701 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: and brown people, like it is wild. The fucking hoops 702 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: and hoop law and nonsense. You know, the right will 703 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: jump through to talk about unborn lives and protecting the 704 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: poor and bubble, and then it's just white people. Apparently 705 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: we just care about white people, and that's never been Yes, 706 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: it's not even kind of a conversation about like and 707 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: in part of the reason that even this lady Carrie 708 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: Buck is a person in history is because she was 709 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: a white woman who had this bad thing that was 710 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: happening nationally to so many other women, happened to her. 711 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: If it was a black woman She doesn't even get 712 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: to go to the Supreme Court about this ship. She 713 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: just takes the l and you don't get no babies, 714 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: no more, no more babies, no more a part of 715 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: your body. What a dark what a dark, terrible topic. 716 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: I've chosen um was not to not be so ignorant 717 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: about it, though, and to be like, oh no, this 718 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: ship is really happening. Okay, I don't have a uterus, 719 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: I never have, but I have to imagine getting it 720 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: taken out. You're gonna hear a little hollow uh, like thong, 721 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the dong when you 722 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: hit a door and it's hollow. You hear that. I've 723 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: only ever had a tooth taken out. That's all that's 724 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: been removed from my body forcibly. So I can't weigh in. 725 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. So here's where it gets even darker, 726 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 1: if you needed more darkness. It is estimated that twenty 727 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: five to fifty percent of Native American women were sterilized 728 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: between nineteen seventy and nineteen seventy six, six years. I 729 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: feel like I did hear about this now, I feel 730 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: like I've been hearing murmurs about this. But tell me 731 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 1: the details, because I obviously don't know. I don't think 732 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: I know many details either, But I think it's just 733 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: in the same way that you know smallpox was an 734 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: intentional murdering off of people. I think that there was 735 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: an effective plan put in place two sterilized Native American 736 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: women of us this nation, so much so that they 737 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: got half of them, which would answer the question of 738 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: why the population, amongst a plethora of other reasons, why 739 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: the population of these Native American groups continues to shrink 740 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: and disappear across our country, right along with like improper 741 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: access to just basic health care, that's a massive problem. 742 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: Do you feel like, I'm sure you've talked about this 743 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: on the pod before, but the whole adage of like 744 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to 745 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: get you. Do you feel like for black and brown 746 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: people especially, there is often there's often no line, there's 747 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: no clear line between which of these things are wild 748 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: ass conspiracies and because of the wilder ship that has 749 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: been done to us and people like us. Yes, and 750 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: I know I was being silly in the last segment, 751 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: but I do think that that's part of the reason 752 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm so immediately bought in on so many conspiracy theories. 753 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: Is not because I genuinely believe that, like there's a 754 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: guy up in a scary tower who's twiddling his fingers 755 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: and thinking about evil shipped to do to us. But 756 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: I do think that so much of the way that 757 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: our society is built is on sinister ship that people 758 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: thought was effective or efficient or whatever it was. And 759 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: so now it can't be uncooked from the way that 760 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: we treat people or the way that we interact with communities. Right, So, like, 761 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: you don't get to steal away the ability to procreate 762 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: for half of an entire species of people and then 763 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: treat them like human beings. Right, you can't do that 764 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: and then go back and be like, I We're good, 765 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: We're square. Yeah, Yeah, what did you learn? You effectively, 766 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, wipe them out, So there is no learning, 767 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: which means you'll continue to mistreat them or continue to 768 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: do something awful to them, be as what the funk 769 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: else are you gonna do? Yeah? And I mean, and 770 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: now I'm sitting here spinning about why you know, I mean, 771 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: in black culture, there's such a weight placed on like 772 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: knowledge and keeping a sharp eye and like, you know, 773 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,399 Speaker 1: don't be caught slipping like, don't you know, not being 774 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: caught off guard by tricks like this and by things 775 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: like yes, okay, I'll tell you one more sad thing, 776 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: and then well, well maybe you have a breath. We'll 777 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: get to take a second away from all of this 778 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: heavy ship. And I should say before I tell you 779 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: this final thing, I did not have nearly enough time 780 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: to be able to dig into all of the examples 781 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: of sterilization that have happened nationally, internationally, any of that stuff, 782 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: but one of the final things. And I think it 783 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: would be unfair to talk about sterilization without bringing up 784 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico apparently is known and it's understood 785 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 1: to be the most sterilized placed on this planet Earth 786 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: that like Noor else has suffered from sterilization more than 787 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. And between the nineteen thirties to the nineteen seventies, 788 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico had nearly one third of its female population sterilized. 789 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: One third of the entire island was sterilized by I 790 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: presume just a bunch of different governments than people coming 791 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 1: in and being like Nope, we don't like y'all. Y'all 792 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: dumb it, saile y'all, ugly, we're gonna sterilize, Yeah, ugly. 793 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if it was drug trials again, or if 794 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: it was just straight up, like no artifice at all, 795 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: just like come in here to get sterilized and you 796 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: have no choice. I have to imagine that it was 797 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: a combination of of all of the above that it's 798 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 1: like this became much in the way that like New 799 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: Mexico becomes the testing ground for our bombs, like this 800 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: just becomes like the testing ground for all the things 801 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: that we decide we want to do, both you know, 802 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: in our own backyards and across other countries. It's like 803 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: you've got this little island filled with brown people who 804 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: nobody otherwise gives a funk about will do whatever we 805 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: want to them. God damn man. I've said before I 806 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: couldn't be from the past. I don't think I can 807 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 1: be from now. I'm having a hard time being from now. Listen, 808 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to be from the future, which is 809 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: a complicated place to be in as a person who's 810 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna keep living, I have to keep living, but I 811 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: don't want to be a part of none of this ship. 812 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: It's wild. We should both not exist these feelings. All right, 813 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, We're gonna plot how we 814 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: end our lives, and we'll be back with more Johnny 815 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: News and more, my mama told me. And we are backs, 816 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: go back, and we're back. We're back here with more 817 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: Tony News and more. My mama told me. I love 818 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,479 Speaker 1: the look on everyone's face when they realized that that's 819 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: not the same song that they thought it was gonna be, 820 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: and it turns into something else. I'm just trying to 821 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: follow it. Did a man fall down a deep well? 822 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 1: I asked our wonderful producer Nick to blend the baby 823 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: song from Justin Bieber that everybody loves with a clip 824 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: from Intervention where a man basically has a full breakdown 825 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: because his son admits to him that he feels like 826 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: their relationship is permanently damaged. And that is the actual 827 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: sounds of a fifty year old man crying out loud, 828 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: mashed up with a fourteen year old man on the 829 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: precipice of something great, ye classic, you know, showing his 830 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: dick to us a lot. It depends on how you 831 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: want to look at Justin Bieber. He think I was 832 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: aware of the new phase of the Beabes I did 833 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: not know. Oh you didn't know. Be Yeah, this meanness 834 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: is out a lot. Now he loves Jesus and having 835 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: his penis out. But before there was a phase where 836 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,720 Speaker 1: he was just being outside and sending out dick picks. 837 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: He had a wild, wild middle. I don't like either 838 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 1: one of those, and I would encourage him to find 839 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: something in between the two that's fair. And if I 840 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: ever get the chance to talk to him, I'll let 841 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: him know that you don't care for it at all. 842 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Okay, I would love to play 843 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: a game. I have a fun game plan for us, 844 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: and it's a game that I like to call white lies. Ugly. 845 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: You're disgusting, I'm gonna kill you. Give me two white lies. 846 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: This is a fun game where I am going to 847 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: introduce to you a very standard, sort of widely accepted 848 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: white conspiracy theory, one that that white people tend to 849 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: believe in. And what I would like for you to 850 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: do is unpack why you think this conspiracy theory is 851 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: so important to white people. What are these sneaky motherfucker's 852 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: up to? Do? You know what I mean? The conspiracy 853 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: theory that I'm going to present to you. And this one, 854 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: similarly is a little heavy and a little rooted in truth. 855 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: The conspiracy theory that exists right now, maybe you've heard 856 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 1: that Yellowstone is actually a giant supervolcano. Yellowstone Park, as 857 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: we know it is, in fact a giant super volcano 858 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: that if it were to explode, would wipe out all 859 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: of like the United States and possibly all of North America. 860 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: It's massive and it could go off at any moment. 861 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: Have you heard that before? I have not. Why would 862 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: they hide it being a super Okay, all right, okay, 863 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,959 Speaker 1: it is that part is not the the conspiracy theory 864 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: that is true. It is it has geysers, and like 865 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: we we know that it has volcanic activity right, yes, exactly, 866 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: and it hasn't exploded for a very very long time. 867 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: But in theory, it could explode at any moment and 868 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 1: we would all perish. Now, here's where the conspiracy comes 869 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: in is that some people believe that the government is 870 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: fully aware of the exact day and time that this guyser, 871 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: this giant volcano, whatever you want to call it, is 872 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: going to blow, and they are intentionally planning, basically ways 873 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: to protect themselves in this They being this sort of 874 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: like royal day, if you will, and leaving the whole 875 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: of America, the population to die in the ash that 876 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: is left behind. My question for you, why do you 877 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: think it's so important for white people to believe that 878 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: the government knows when this explosion is meant to happen? Okay, um, 879 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: thank you, My time starts now, Thank you very much. UM. 880 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: I think it's important for white people to know the 881 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: exact day of when the volcano's gonna erupt because white 882 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: people always want an exact time and date for everything. 883 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: You cannot put them on hold like a customer service 884 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: call without saying like, we will get to you in 885 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: three to six minutes, and if it's two minutes or 886 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: eight minutes you are getting, there's going to be a 887 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 1: nasty comment card filled out. So they want they want 888 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: to predictable, because don't leave a white person waiting, even 889 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: if it's for the end of the world, even if 890 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: it's for the death of them and everyone they've ever met. 891 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: They want to know exactly when, and they believe their 892 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: right to know. Whereas I mean, black people haven't been 893 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: told ship ever. I mean as soon as the boats 894 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: picked us up and they didn't tell us anything, and 895 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: that's been a thing. Yeah, they weren't like, hey, we're 896 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: gonna be there in uh sixteen days, ten minutes before 897 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: we leave. No, we have never known the time. That's 898 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: why we are never late. We are never late. Even 899 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: if we're late, we're not late. No one told us. 900 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 1: And that's tell us the time the first time we've 901 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: been recalibrating from the original time. You funked up on it. 902 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: That's why Black people are late all the time, because 903 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: when you didn't tell us when we were leaving the 904 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: first time from Africa. So now we're just trying to 905 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,479 Speaker 1: catch back up from that original fucked up date and time. 906 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. We showed up to a country that was 907 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: already started that we didn't know, so we showed up late. 908 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: We were late to the very first America meeting. And 909 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: then I'll try to act like we fucked up when 910 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: we didn't even know we were coming here. So you 911 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: know what, White people always want to know when ship 912 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: is happening because they believe that as their god given 913 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: right because they started this country on their time and 914 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: everything happens on their time. I love that. That's God Damn, 915 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Cool motherfuck com I love that, you know why, 916 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: because I think there's so much truth in that. I 917 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: think that there's so much evidence. Even now, we're in 918 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: the middle of what I would argue is one of 919 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: the scariest times that I've ever heard of, at least 920 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: in terms of our like existence as a species on 921 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: this planet. And white people are still gonna carrying their 922 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: way through it. They're still going to shake their heads 923 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 1: and complain to a manager about the apocalypse that, like, 924 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: the apocalypse is happening, and you still are unsatisfied with 925 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: the way that the apocalypse is happening and the timing 926 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: that it all falls into. Yep, exactly, because truly, like 927 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and this is this is serious, like before 928 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, I got to be on my little fer 929 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: con esque soapbox, but like seriously like wanting to know 930 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 1: when and how and where things happen. It's all just 931 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: a means of season control. And I know this because 932 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 1: I'm a very controlling person, and you and I are 933 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,760 Speaker 1: in a business where we have no control. This business 934 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: constantly tests us and pulls us and yanks us around. 935 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: And when you are a controlling person, or let's say, 936 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: when you are a controlling class of people. When you're 937 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: a controlling demographic because you have been given all of 938 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 1: the control for centuries on the whole as globe. When 939 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: you are not, when you don't have control over when 940 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: or how or where something is going to happen, this 941 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: is deeply like anxiety producing. So of course white people 942 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,839 Speaker 1: want to know when the volcano is going to blow up, 943 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: like that's real. This may in fact comfort some of 944 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 1: our white listeners is that it's not a shameful thing 945 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: that that's your instinct because it is cooked into your 946 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: experience as a white person on this planet. You have 947 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: only known control. Therefore, to not have it even in 948 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: the face of what is completely unpredictable, you get frustrated, 949 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: and so you want to create a narrative where there 950 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: is a secret person or secret entity that has control 951 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: over this thing, because otherwise you are trapped, like all 952 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: of us, at the whim of a god or a 953 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: you know, a fate, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, 954 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 1: or just wild ass nature. That's terrifying because it's chaotic 955 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's science, but it's random. I mean, well, 956 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: welcome to it. Anyone, who I mean, you ever want 957 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: to see see a real experiment is to look if 958 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: you're in a supermarket and there's one long line for 959 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: a cashier, look at the faces of the black people 960 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: versus look at the white people, like truly, the white 961 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: people will be shifting, are uncomfortable. Black people have resigned 962 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: ourselves to wait. We have been waiting. Yes we wait, 963 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 1: and yes we might cuss somebody out in the process 964 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: of waiting, we might say some ship, but we more 965 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: or less are going to wait our turn in that process, 966 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: whereas white people, I think, are constantly wanting to get 967 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: out of the line to somehow find their way in 968 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 1: a different place in the line, which you know how, 969 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,320 Speaker 1: you know how it works, and that's not how the 970 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: volcano is gonna work. That's not how the volcano is 971 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: going to work. I love that, Tawny. I think we 972 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: did it. What a wonderful time. I had a great 973 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: time talking to you. I had a really fun time. 974 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: This makes me want to like pull out all my 975 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: like I want my glowing eyes, I want my can 976 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: say cloth, my an earrings. I want to go full 977 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: ass hotep and just like dive with you into all 978 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 1: the conspiracies. So listen, next time I see you, I 979 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: hope that's what you're wearing. I pray to God that 980 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: you have on the whole garb so that we can 981 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: have a more effective conversation together. And I promise I 982 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: won't wear a tie dye so that I will match 983 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: your same energy. Oh, I love it. Can you tell 984 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: the people where they can find you what cool stuff 985 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: you have going on? Yes, you can find me on 986 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram at Trondy Newman, or you can just 987 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: type my real name in there and you'll find me 988 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: Tauny News something. Um, the cool stuff I have going 989 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: on is I wrote, recorded, and engineered a new album 990 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: of music and I did that wall during the pandemic. 991 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah to me and another black woman, my friend Bethany 992 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: Thomas from Chicago. We've been singing together forever and yeah, 993 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the summer, she just drove her 994 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: ass out to my house in the desert out here 995 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: in l A And we made a big, loud, black 996 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: lady punk record that we never would have had time 997 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: to do if the world hadn't shut down. So if 998 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: you want to buy that, that can be found. Um, 999 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 1: there's a link in my Instagram bio, or you and 1000 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: go to Tawny and Bethany dot com. The preorders on 1001 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: band camp for vinyl and stuff, but um and digital, 1002 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: but it'll be out everywhere like for streaming and stuff 1003 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: on October night dope and what's it called? What's the 1004 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: project called? We're just using our name, so we're just 1005 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: Tawny Newsom and Bethany Thomas and our album is called 1006 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: material Flats. It's kind of named after the the weird 1007 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: hippie commune that I sort of have built for myself. 1008 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: So okay, hell yeah, I love that. What a great 1009 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh plug, I love that so much. I had no 1010 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: idea that you could sing and do all that cool ship. 1011 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, I'm jealous of you, and I resent 1012 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: you the same way I resent Nick Chambers. Anyway, you 1013 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: could follow me at Langston Kerman on all the social 1014 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: media platform. Nobody else wants what I got and does 1015 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: they do? Not my name? That's I'm the only one, oh, 1016 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 1: the only one on the planet. Yeah, they're fine with 1017 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: my words in my face every once in a while, 1018 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: but they're not interested in my name. And then, oh please, 1019 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: if you have drops that you want to send us, 1020 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: if you have conspiracies that you think are valuable, for 1021 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: us to be talking about on the show. We would 1022 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. Send us voice memos, send 1023 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: us articles, send us bullshit. I will sift through all 1024 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: of it. You can send it to my Mama pod 1025 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. I believe yes, Okay Hans is saying, 1026 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm correct, it's my Mama pod at gmail dot com. 1027 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: Send it to me. I want to see this ship, 1028 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: and I promise that I might actually talk about it 1029 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: on the podcast. It's a promise that I maybe will 1030 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: do something that is a guarantee that I might do 1031 00:59:42,160 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: some ship. Okay, I talked too much by racist. They 1032 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: also player of folksta money, versions of many turney stuff. 1033 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell me about my