00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: I said, no gift, I'm Richard Wineger. Oh there's not much any of us can do about that at this point. I hope you're doing okay. I hope you have a nice day. I had a rather un eventful day, not much going on, and that's okay. And if there's not much going on for you, that's also okay. But I hope that something exciting has happened, or something exciting is about to happen. For example, what if you were to listen to the rest of this podcast with our fantastic guest, none other than Oscar Montoya, who's just delightful Oscar, Welcome to, I said, Nokia, Oh. 00:01:27 Speaker 4: My god, what a great day would be if people just like listen to this entire episode and had a blast with us. 00:01:32 Speaker 2: I think it would be a great, super eventful day for me. 00:01:35 Speaker 3: I feel like we've provided a little plan for them moving forward. I think so, and you know, maybe they snapped. Maybe they've already snapped and turned off the podcast, and you know, they've got something else to do. 00:01:47 Speaker 4: And to those people, I just want to say, you're missing out on a potentially sullen riching experience. 00:01:54 Speaker 3: Well they're gone now, so we can say whatever we want about them. I'm thrilled they're gone. I didn't like any of them to begin. 00:02:02 Speaker 2: I know. It's so good. 00:02:03 Speaker 4: It's like having someone that you didn't invite come to the party but then leave early, and it's like, well, great, you weren't invited. 00:02:11 Speaker 3: Fantastic, We're never part of the plan. Oscar, how are you doing? 00:02:16 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing great, Bridger, how are you doing. 00:02:19 Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well. I had, you know, I feel like I've evenly paste my meals for the day. I had an afternoon snack. My blood sugar is a nice even keel. 00:02:29 Speaker 2: Fantastic. 00:02:30 Speaker 3: You know, we're recording a little you know, later in the afternoon. So the coffee situation is always tricky that way, where it's like if I, you know, after three o'clock, we get into some dicey territory coffee wise. But I needed a little energy. 00:02:44 Speaker 4: Okay, question about this coffee talk. Okay, I'm a big coffee person. How many cups of coffee do you drink a day? 00:02:52 Speaker 3: That so I've gotten to I'm about two. But this is cold brew. I drink a glass of cold brew in the morning. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: Oh so, okay, you're okay, you're a bit intense. Yeah, gold through. 00:03:03 Speaker 3: Well, this is what the problem is is I'm not intense, and so I need caffeine to step in and kind of just do whatever it can anything possible for my personality. So around three o'clock I get back into another cold brew and that's when caffeine. The caffeine usage ends for me for the day, unless I have maybe a diet coke around six o'clock. But that's nothing in comparison to cold brew is essentially propane. So you know, what about you, what's your coffee situation? 00:03:35 Speaker 4: Well, I used to be a big I used to Oh my god, Bridger, please don't judge me. But back in my early twenties, I would drink six seven cups of coffee. 00:03:47 Speaker 3: I fully understand that. 00:03:49 Speaker 4: I fully never slept in my early twenties. I was too busy. Well, the thing is I was living with a drag queen. My roommate was a drag queen, and I choreographed a lot of her dances, and so I would go out. I would be a big partier, you know what I mean. I never drank. I never drank alcohol or did drugs or anything like that. So for me, my drug of choice was caffeine. So I would just go off on some caffeine. Now that I'm a bit older, maybe not wiser, but definitely older, I have one cup of coffee a day. 00:04:26 Speaker 3: One cup. And is that in a morning that. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: Is Actually it's not in the morning. 00:04:30 Speaker 4: It's in the afternoon, about like two pm is usually when I have my first cup of coffee. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: Interesting, So in the morning, you're waking up and you just have enough energy to move on with your life. 00:04:41 Speaker 4: I know it takes me, honestly, it's probably a four hour ordeal for me to actually like fully wake up. You know, I wake up early, but then I'm like fully awake four hours later. I'm a sloth. In the morning. I'm just like, you can't talk to me, I can't communicate. I mean, I can have a conversation with you, I will not remember it right, but yeah, I'll have it at two, because you know, I want to drink water, I want to say hydrated in the mornings, so then two o'clock will tie me for the rest of the day. 00:05:11 Speaker 2: If I have it early, then. 00:05:13 Speaker 4: I probably might be a little naughty and drink another cup of coffee at night, which is not good for anybody. 00:05:21 Speaker 3: No, it never works out for anyone. 00:05:23 Speaker 2: It's not a good idea. No, was there? 00:05:25 Speaker 3: So you were drinking six cups of coffee a day, which is probably like a mild meth Was there, ever? Like, what was the breaking point for you? When was it? 00:05:35 Speaker 1: Like? 00:05:35 Speaker 3: Enough is enough, I've got to scale back. 00:05:38 Speaker 4: Oh well, I would get so anxious all the time and like jittery, like literally my hands would be shaking NonStop, and I'd just be like, huh, that's weird. I wonder why that that is, and then chug like another cup of coffee. 00:05:53 Speaker 2: But I think it because you know, I okay. 00:05:55 Speaker 4: So I was born in Colombia and raised there, and in Colombia it's totally normal for kids to drink coffee. 00:06:03 Speaker 2: I've been drinking coffee since I was three years old. 00:06:06 Speaker 4: Way and yeah, so when you're little, you drink something called caffeku liche, which is a coffee with milk, that's what it translates to. But it's a sweet drink and it's sort of like a dessert over there. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: So we would we would have it. 00:06:22 Speaker 4: And so, like I was just used to coffee was like just part of my life, you know, and then as I got older, I would just drink more. 00:06:28 Speaker 3: Well, Colombia is famously a coffee place. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: So exactly Juan Valdez just you know, iconic coffee drinkers come from that country. So yeah, it just got to a point where I was just too old and my body's like, no, we can't do this, body, No, no, no, no, no, not anymore. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: No. That that really mirrors my caffeine consumption. Well, despite the fact that I just told you that I drink too full cold bruce a day. 00:06:52 Speaker 4: Well, this is interesting because I know that you were a Mormon, and I know that caffeine is something that is not consumed. 00:07:01 Speaker 3: Caffeine within Mormon culture is very it's a very confusing situation. It's shrinky Mormons are It depends on who you speak to. Within Mormonism, they're most Mormons don't drink coffee or tea. But they will drink caffeinated soda. So you can catch a Mormon drinking off sixty four ounce mountain dew, which I'm sure at some point was me as well. 00:07:26 Speaker 2: That's how you can tell they're Mormon. 00:07:27 Speaker 3: Right, But some Mormons don't drink caffeine at all. My family was a caffeine soda family. That was okay. I see, so I didn't have coffee or tea until I was probably twenty four, and was so ignorant of the whole thing that said. I had worked at like a bakery where I was making people coffee all the time, and making it I have to just apologize. Maybe this is my public apology. 00:07:54 Speaker 2: Now. 00:07:55 Speaker 3: Those poor people were ordering it, you know, coffee and not just a cup of coffee, but lattes, americanos, this sort of thing, and I was not. I was not making what they were ordering, just devastating coffee. And then I worked at a tai restaurant. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: You never had anyone come back to you and be like, uh, this what is what? Did you just make me this? 00:08:13 Speaker 1: Oh? 00:08:13 Speaker 3: I'm sure I did. I mean I can't, I mean unless I can't, like, certainly someone must have had a problem with it at some point, or maybe they saw me struggling with the espresso machine and just thought, I'm going to leave it alone. I'll just throw this away. This poor soul has no idea what he's doing. But I've served a lot of bad coffee. I worked at a Thai restaurant where the only option was instant coffee, and you know, it was just like this horrible little jar of you know, coffee crystals. So I have cursed the world with all kinds of horrible coffee. Twenty four, I was in New York interning. Finally started drinking coffee. But I was so embarrassed that I didn't know about coffee that I would just let my bosses order it for me. They were ordering me these you know, iced coffees with hazel nuts, syrup and all this nonsense, which is just disgusting. 00:09:06 Speaker 2: You want to start with the basics. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: I just want coffee. I drink it black. Now. I love just the taste of coffee. What how do you take your coffee? 00:09:13 Speaker 2: I have it with oat milk and that's it. 00:09:17 Speaker 3: Okay, So that's a pretty basic coffee. 00:09:19 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty basic. 00:09:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:09:20 Speaker 4: I don't I don't like to do the flavored coffees. I'm not like a complicated coffee person. It's just I oat milk is probably the most complicated thing. But I also feel really guilty ordering it outside. When I say oat milk, I just feel like, oh God, how embarrassing. But it turns out a lot of people drink oat milk. I'm not the only one, and I'm not being like weird by ordering oat milk. This is what I'm telling myself to make myself feel better. So yeah, that's that's pretty much my order. You're not special drinking, I'm not. It's a constant reminder I say to myself every morning, how was your first experienced drinking coffee? 00:10:02 Speaker 2: Was it like wild? Like did you freak out? 00:10:04 Speaker 3: No? I didn't freak out. I just tried to. I just acted cool about it, as cool as someone like me can be, and just acted like, oh, this is a totally normal thing. Uh. And you know, at that point, I was probably it was probably a huge gift in my life because I was drinking a ton of soda for my caffeine consumption and just filling my body with artificial all sorts of bullshit. So it was pretty a big diet. Oh drink person. Oh yeah, yeah, you know, until I worked at the aforementioned bakery, I was a regular soda person and then switched over to a diet soda, which I still indulge in on a casion. 00:10:42 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would say, I mean, diet coke is my favorite diet soda. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: I think mine, it's a time for me diet coke, coke zero. 00:10:50 Speaker 2: Coke zero. But look, this isn't indulged in the coke zero life style. 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Yet the worst drink in the world diet pepsi. Diet pepsi is. I mean, I don't understand why it exists, and I don't know anyone who well, I actually do know one friend. I won't mention her publicly. I don't want to shame anybody, but I know one person who does enjoy diet pepsi. But diet pepsi is disgusting. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: I agree. I feel bad for your friend. 00:11:20 Speaker 4: I don't know this person because you're really good at keeping secrets, so and I will not pressure you to tell me who it is. Maybe after we can talk about it. But I feel I feel sad for your friend. 00:11:31 Speaker 3: I do too. I will say this is one thing diet pepsi has going for it, and I learned this from mad men is that it originally was called patio. I believe diet pepsi the original one was patio, the soda. 00:11:47 Speaker 2: P a t io. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: I assume, like no, the goal was to like make the drink or think this is something you that will refresh you on the patio. That's the only loss. 00:11:58 Speaker 4: The loungers d I see Pepsi's for the consumer on the go. Diapepsis for the people who like to relax. 00:12:05 Speaker 3: Kick back some of your friends on the patio and have If diapepsi was still called patio, I would absolutely gag it down just to drink a patio. But they made a horrible decision. 00:12:20 Speaker 4: That's what I did for tabund where the tab was a thing. But every time I see a tab, because you know there's some there's they still sell tab, which is insane to me, of course, but I can't help, but like just reach I drink it and it's nasty. 00:12:37 Speaker 3: It's horrible. It is not a good drink, but it has a real style. I feel like it's got a good look and so it's. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: Got a great look. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: You wear you drank tab, you wear your Gloria Vanderbilt teased out hair. 00:12:53 Speaker 2: You are living the lifestyle. 00:12:58 Speaker 3: I absolutely agree, and I'm glad that we can come. At least we can agree on one thing, Oscar. The rest of this has been so contentious. 00:13:04 Speaker 2: Because you know, you and I always but heads about a bunch of things. 00:13:07 Speaker 3: So yes, well, what have you been doing with your time? You know? 00:13:13 Speaker 2: Okay, well what a question? For sure? 00:13:17 Speaker 3: I need I hold the guests accountable. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: What have I been doing? 00:13:22 Speaker 3: Well? 00:13:22 Speaker 2: You know, you know, because we're coming out of it. 00:13:25 Speaker 4: Yes, it big, you know, capital letters bold italicize, we're coming out of it. And so there's like the easing back into society what I'm doing now. And this is a big, big thing for me because I was really bad pre pandemic about saying no to things. I would always be saying yes to everything and being like, yes, yes, I'll go, I'll do this show, I'll I'll go see your show. Oh my goodness, I'll you know, I'll do whatever. Other people were accountable for my schedule. But I think what's happening now is that I'm being a little bit more selfish with my time. Oh good, And I'm enjoying the act of just being alone, which is something that I never did. And you know this, the pandemic made me sort of like have to be with myself all the time, and I kind of love it, Bridgard, It's sort of fantastic. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: Well, you were running from yourself, you were running from your problems. I think I was, yes, And now you've embraced it. And so what do you do with yourself when you're alone? 00:14:30 Speaker 1: Now? 00:14:31 Speaker 4: Well, I'm a big music listener. I love listening to music. Music is like a fun little solo thing that I like to do. I like to put on my Spotify and leave it on shuffle because I want to be surprised of the next song that shows up. 00:14:45 Speaker 3: Right, So you'll like select a song from an artist and then hit shuffle or do you pick the. 00:14:51 Speaker 2: Oh not even not even that. 00:14:53 Speaker 4: I'll just go on a place I have a general playlist that's like I want to say a to nine thousand songs right that I've collected throughout the years, and just hit shuffle and then it's just like it could be anything Oscar, it could be a Gregorian chant song, it could be an early seventy disco track, or it could be an Elia song. I don't know, I don't know, but I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna love it. I love the surprise of it, you know what I mean? 00:15:20 Speaker 2: Right? 00:15:21 Speaker 3: I love to hear this because a few years ago I had what was probably some sort of break, some sort of mental something going on, and I went back. 00:15:30 Speaker 2: I love that you're honest about it, but I have to be. 00:15:32 Speaker 3: I have to be otherwise I'll be exposed. I made playlists for every year dating back to I think nineteen eighty nine, and then created a giant what I labeled Mega list, dumped all of those in there. That's my shuffle zone. I put that on when I can't decide on something fantastic. It's a great feeling. And I mean, people who don't have playlists, what are you doing? 00:15:59 Speaker 2: It's weird. My gosh, I know someone. I'm not gonna out. 00:16:02 Speaker 4: This person, But can you believe I have a friend, a very good friend, that doesn't like music. 00:16:12 Speaker 3: Oh I don't. I do not believe that. How does that work? Completely unhinged? 00:16:19 Speaker 2: Is that? 00:16:21 Speaker 3: What does your friend do in the I guess it's audiobooks or podcasts. 00:16:25 Speaker 4: She's a writer, she's a comedian, very funny, very talented, really smart person, one of the smartest people I know, very funny. 00:16:37 Speaker 2: Doesn't like doesn't like music, doesn't like anything to dance. No, she doesn't dance. She doesn't like to dance. She doesn't like music. And it's been my first year. 00:16:46 Speaker 4: I tried to send her songs that she might like, and she just doesn't. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: Nothing. Nothing has like caught on. The only thing I can't believe I'm talking about. She might listen to this, and yikes. I'd just like to say, listen. I've told you, listen. 00:17:05 Speaker 4: I told you it was weird, friend, and you recognize that it is weird, but you I don't get it, Okay. The closest thing I've gotten her, I've gotten her to enjoy is k pop oh. 00:17:17 Speaker 3: And, which I think is kind of a universally liked It's kind of the sort of music design to break down any barrier. Everyone likes K. 00:17:28 Speaker 2: Pop because there's what I mean, what's there not to love? 00:17:32 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 00:17:32 Speaker 3: It's just so much. It just feels like a lot of joy, it feels like a lot of energy. I mean, I don't know what to tell someone who can't find something within K pop to enjoy exactly. 00:17:45 Speaker 4: It's like the best part of nineties boy slash girl bands, do you know, because there's always like the one or two people that you like. I'm like, you know, for me, for example, Spice Girls. Obviously growing up, I was a scary Spice person, you know what I mean? There are music thin was fun, but like for me, it was all about the personality and sync controversial. I'm gonna say that, but Joey Fotone is my favorite. 00:18:08 Speaker 3: And saying Joey Fatone interesting, What did Joey Fatone do for you? What was? 00:18:12 Speaker 4: He was like the older brother and I thought that was cool. He seemed like the responsible one. And I liked that Backstreet Boys Kevin to me because he looked like a vampire again also older brother vibes. 00:18:29 Speaker 2: I don't know what what was wrong with me? 00:18:31 Speaker 3: I cannot name a favorite Backstreet Boy. I feel like within sync it was JC. I felt like jac was the one that was like kind of the leader but also a little bit willing to He had the attitude. 00:18:45 Speaker 4: Yes, and I'll say this much, I do think jac had the talent. I think just saying come for me, listeners, come for me if you want to. But I'm say right now, j c had the talent of in and sync, and that's just my opinion. 00:19:00 Speaker 3: I think he did some interesting things post in sync. I think he has some good agree. I think he does a song with basement jacks. That's great. 00:19:07 Speaker 4: Oh Richer plug it in? Of course, you better believe I love that song. Are you kidding me? It's an incredible song, timeless. 00:19:17 Speaker 2: I will to learn my rotation of nine thousand songs. 00:19:20 Speaker 3: It's gonna come up someday for you, and you're only gonna be able to think of me. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: I'm gonna think of you. That's our song. Now, it's our song. I plug it in, ours song. 00:19:32 Speaker 3: Spy schools, I feel like I went Ginger Spices and I think they are Richard some bias there. 00:19:36 Speaker 1: You know. 00:19:36 Speaker 3: I saw this rightheaded woman and I was thinking, you know, I can relate to this. 00:19:42 Speaker 2: My question with. 00:19:43 Speaker 4: Ginger Spice is like everyone had like sporty was obviously she was sporty, paush, she was like the you know, sophisticated. I guess like Braddy baby, childish, scary, scary. 00:19:57 Speaker 2: But Ginger, what's the personality t is? Ginger? 00:20:01 Speaker 3: This is the experience of every redheaded person that's ever lived. Is they just get identified by having a different hair color and no one cares about anything else about what's going. 00:20:11 Speaker 2: On, blatantly unfair. 00:20:14 Speaker 3: Wow, it's a long history of being a Ginger. 00:20:19 Speaker 2: Is just like the audacity to market. 00:20:22 Speaker 4: One of the spicecirles is just the redheaded one and. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: People were totally obsessed. 00:20:27 Speaker 3: Oh, they loved her. And then she went on to I don't know what she did. I feel like at some point she was in the UN. 00:20:33 Speaker 4: Yes, she worked for the UN. She had a solo career, right, I think she might still be doing that. 00:20:39 Speaker 3: Okay, well, you know, I think we both picked good good. 00:20:43 Speaker 4: It seems like you sort of, you know, severed ties with starring Hallowell after Spice Girls. You said Ginger Spice up to a certain point, she should have. 00:20:55 Speaker 3: Been more true to that group. I'll just say that, Jerry, you let the gals down and it was a family. You left your family, it. 00:21:05 Speaker 2: Was a family, It was a fan and you gave it up. 00:21:08 Speaker 3: For the United Nations for world peace. What does that say about you, Jerry? 00:21:13 Speaker 2: How rude? 00:21:15 Speaker 3: You could have been having fun. There could have there were more albums in the Spice Girls. Oh, Oscar, look, I would love to talk about mid to late nineties pop music for the rest of this podcast, but there's something more important on my mind. You know, you agreed to be on this podcast a few weeks ago. I was so excited. I thought, Oscar's just a delight. No chance this podcast ends up being a fight like we usually get in. And about a week ago, I get a text from you with your address, and I thought, you know, maybe I'll swing by Oscar's house and just see what's going on over there. I don't I don't know why he sent this to me, but I'm in the mood for a drive. 00:22:03 Speaker 4: I did just send you my address and give you any connotation whatsoever it was. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: I said my address and I just wrote come that's it. 00:22:10 Speaker 3: Was very ominous. Send a chill down my spine, I'll say that. But you know what, as we've discussed, I like to listen to some music, especially in the car. It's part of one of the great joys of living in Los Angeles. You get to be in the car for extremely long periods of time, and if you like to listen to music, this is the place to be. So I drive over to your house and I text you, I'm here. Here comes Oscar saunters out holding a bag, and I thought, what's happening? Am I not going in? What's what's the situation here? 00:22:49 Speaker 4: So I will say I thought about that after. I was like, I was kind of rude different. 00:22:55 Speaker 2: I should have assign if he wanted a drink or something. Oh my goodness, I think it like a drug deal, is what it felt like. 00:23:07 Speaker 3: All that aside, all the just absolute lack of manners aside, you give me this bag, and you know, I was beyond frazzled at this point, just adam confused. 00:23:21 Speaker 2: I saw you do a couple of tap, like a double take. 00:23:28 Speaker 3: You know whatever. I drive home, thoughts racing through my head. I had probably just had my second cold brew of the day, so anxiety through the roof. And so I get home and then it occurs to me, Oscar is going to be on my podcast. I said, no gifts. Look, I felt like I had been tricked, you know. I I don't want to say I was broken hearted, but I was broken hearted. I thought Oscar has done something to me that is possibly unforgivable. And so I'm going to ask you right now, Oscar, is this a gift for me? 00:24:05 Speaker 4: It one hundred percent is a gift for you, but it does not necessarily is associated with this podcast. I know the name of the podcast, and I know that you don't like Getty gifts. I know that I recognize that I respected that. Okay, this gift was for some maybe another occasion, another random event that could have happened, you know what I mean, an early birthday gift, a belated birthday gift. 00:24:28 Speaker 3: Okay, what this feels like You're just dancing around the subject and trying to absolve yourself of responsibility. And obviously I'm not going to allow that to happen. There's it is unforgivable, but I will should I open it here on the podcast. 00:24:45 Speaker 2: I would love you know what, it would be a gift. 00:24:47 Speaker 3: To me if you if you happy to do it, happy to return the favor. Now, it's in this little brown bag, which when you gave it to you did indicate it's if it says Magpiees soft serve on it, a local soft serve chain around Los Angeles. I assume not soft serve ice cream because it's been in my home for over a week. 00:25:14 Speaker 2: I would I did tell you to refrigerate that as soon as you got home. Actually, maybe don't open. 00:25:24 Speaker 3: Well, let's see what's happening inside here. I'm gonna reach in. It's a decent weight, I would say, let's get I'm. 00:25:32 Speaker 2: Gonna pull on down. And he guesses as to what it could be. 00:25:36 Speaker 3: From what I've felt, I would assume it feels book sized. I've got the tissue right here. This is really becoming an audio nightmare for the listener. Like I within what I felt, I was like a book or a you know, two by four piece of wood, a journal. I've VHS tape and extremely that would have to be like a double VHS or you know, for VHS like Titanic. Yes, exactly, but it doesn't have that squishiness, so I don't know that it's uh actually, I don't think the Titanic came in a Disney. 00:26:13 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: Squishy old vhs uh squishy. They were like the clamshlls. They were at clamshows, but they were almost pillowy. I loved them. I love the feel, and we don't have anything. 00:26:24 Speaker 4: I've never squishy VHS tape. 00:26:30 Speaker 3: They're fantastic. I would I would sleep on a bed made of them. It's a gorgeous texture. That is kind of now missing from Earth. I think it's probably deeply bad for the environment. I'm sure there's just like a whale full of a blockbuster's worth of that type of VHS tapes. I don't want to break anyone's heart with that image, but let's be honest. It's happened, we lived through that. 00:26:56 Speaker 2: It's probably copies of Free Willy the so. 00:27:02 Speaker 3: Okay, so those are my guesses. 00:27:05 Speaker 2: But you don't have a VCR player, do you. 00:27:07 Speaker 3: I don't have a VCR player. 00:27:08 Speaker 4: Okay, great, okay, okay, because it was going to be a VCR okay, but I was like, no, I'm just assumed. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: No, I'm still look I'm still looking at it. But I actually feel two things in here so far. 00:27:21 Speaker 2: There's a couple of things in that. 00:27:23 Speaker 3: Okay, one thing feels now still not looking at it, I feel very proud of myself for not looking still. 00:27:28 Speaker 2: I'm very proud of it. 00:27:29 Speaker 3: Feels like a book. Is this the thing I should pick up first? Yes? 00:27:33 Speaker 2: I think this is This is the focal point. 00:27:34 Speaker 3: Okay, this is the focal point. 00:27:35 Speaker 4: So I don't know if you want to lead up to that or if you want to start with the big the centerpiece and then work, you know, and then do this. 00:27:42 Speaker 3: Let's do centerpiece that accessories love it? 00:27:45 Speaker 1: Do that? 00:27:46 Speaker 3: Okay, this, okay, so I can confirm now this is a book. So good for me for guessing. 00:27:51 Speaker 2: Well, not just a book. It's a hardcover book. 00:27:54 Speaker 3: Tyra Banks is model. I did not realize that, Tyer Banks said dicter toWin authership bridge. 00:28:04 Speaker 4: What it would make me the happiest person on this planet if you could please read the inside jacket, of course, of the book. 00:28:14 Speaker 3: Right now here we go. I'm going to put on my best reading voice. Everyone buckle in. No one gets in without being asked. And with her untamable hair, large forehead, and gawky body, Tuki Tuki de la Creme isn't expecting an invitation. Model Land, the exclusive mysterious place on top of the mountain, never dares to make an appearance in her dreams, but someone has plans for Tuki before she can blink her mismatched eyes. Tuki, fine, is it Tuki or Tuki? Because it looks like cookie? 00:28:51 Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know. 00:28:53 Speaker 3: I'm going to keep saying Tuki. Tuki finds herself in the very place every girl in the world obsesses, and three unlikely girls have joined her. Only seven extraordinary young women become in toks of Bella's each year, famous, worshiped, magical. What happens to those who don't make it? Well, no one really speaks of that. Some things are better left unsaid. Thrown into a world where she doesn't seem to belong, Tuki glimpses of future that could be hers if she survives the beastly Catwalk Corridor and terrifying thigh high boot Camp or could it? Dark Rumors like silken threads swirl around the question of why Tuki and Tuki and her new friends were selected, and the shadows around Model Land hide sinister secrets. Are you ready? Model Land is waiting for you? 00:29:50 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness? Wow? 00:29:54 Speaker 3: Have you read this? Not only have I read it, you wrote it? 00:29:59 Speaker 2: But I am to be. 00:30:04 Speaker 3: I. 00:30:04 Speaker 4: I did a series on Facebook Live a couple of years ago, I want to say, like four years ago, where I read every chapter on Facebook Live. How long did that to experience? Like a I want to say year and a half. Look how many chapters there are in that freaking book? I just opened it close to the slim hardcover book I have to tell you the listeners. 00:30:30 Speaker 3: Forty I want to say forty five chapters in this book. There are hundreds and hundreds of pages. This is five hundred and fifty three pages. I want to say. That's a that is you know, Lord of the Rings level novel. 00:30:51 Speaker 4: And this is written by Tyra Banks, and essentially, I mean clearly this is heavily inspired by Harry Potter. Of course you know it is Harry Potter meets America's next top Model. 00:31:04 Speaker 2: But yeah, I really, I mean I read it. 00:31:09 Speaker 4: Took about a year and a half to read the entire book, and so people were so I have okay, Richard, I have a kid. You not I have four copies of Model Land because while I was reading this book, people sent me copies of Model What. I found a copy at a thrust store in LA for two dollars and I was like, what is this? 00:31:36 Speaker 2: Tirebanks wrote a book, a novel, a fiction book. Unbelievable. 00:31:41 Speaker 4: So I bought it and then I started reading and I was like, no, this needms to be like a shared experience. So at the time, Facebook life was like a thing, and so I was like, that's that's what I'm going to do with my time. 00:31:51 Speaker 2: And then after that people just started sending me copies of the book, but. 00:31:58 Speaker 3: Send some other tyra thing or other trash. You're sitting there with that that doesn't make any sense, or at least a signed copy. 00:32:09 Speaker 2: It's very funny. It's very funny. 00:32:11 Speaker 4: But a friend of mine worked with tire Banks Banks on something. 00:32:16 Speaker 2: I think it was like life size too, okay, and he mentioned. 00:32:23 Speaker 4: This like Facebook reading but you know, listen, it's just funny. 00:32:28 Speaker 2: And she's just like, oh, that's so sweet, like she knows that I did this. 00:32:31 Speaker 3: But you I mean, I can't imagine she's ever going to access any of that. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: I don't think destroyed thinks, Oh yeah, she would. I would. I would. 00:32:40 Speaker 4: I would cease to exist, she would blink her eyes and I would just disappear. 00:32:45 Speaker 3: But is it essentially like kind of the outcast heads to an academy, finds out they have a special something about themselves, and then is there some sort of villain? 00:32:55 Speaker 4: There is a villain the mom, the mom took mom. Her name is Creamy Dela Creme. 00:33:02 Speaker 3: Okay, sure, and uh, you know. 00:33:06 Speaker 4: Creamy Dela Creme is someone who wants to be a model and never had that opportunity, so gets really jealous of Tooki after she gets accepted into model Land. And Tookie also has a sister whose name I don't remember because it was just very normal. It was just a normal name. And the mom is trying to she's like the pretty girl. She's making her be like she's gonna she's like our beautiful daughter. But when she doesn't get accepted and Tookie gets accepted, that's where Creamy sort of goes nuts. 00:33:42 Speaker 3: Creamy Creamy goes nuts is the sequel. So, as you were reading the book, did do you feel like the audience was growing where people loving it? 00:33:56 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:33:56 Speaker 4: And actually it's so funny because now I do weekly. I host a show on Instagram Live called hashtag how I'm reading trash before I read just like garbage. 00:34:11 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know this. 00:34:12 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know anything about America's next sop model or like that whole. 00:34:16 Speaker 3: I'm so ignorant of the entire thing. I feel a little bit ashamed of it. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: No, Bridgie, you should. It feels like. 00:34:23 Speaker 3: A giant cultural thing and it's just, for whatever reason, completely passed me by. 00:34:28 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think you're totally fine. It's it's okay to miss. But now I'm reading. So je Manuel, who was the like creative consultant on America's Next Sop Model, another reality TV show sort of icon, released a book called I don't know if. 00:34:49 Speaker 2: You can see it. 00:34:51 Speaker 4: It's called The Wig, the Bitch, and the Meltdown, and it is a novel by Jane Manuel H sort of talking about his accounts on his experiences on America's Next Top Model. He got fired from the show a couple of years ago, and I guess this is like a tell all version of his experience. 00:35:12 Speaker 3: Kind of disguises fiction exactly so he doesn't get sued, you know what I mean? So does it feel like a factual account? Does it feel like he's coming from a real place or. 00:35:24 Speaker 4: It does, And it also feels incredibly, for lack of a better word, petty. 00:35:30 Speaker 3: Well, I think when you get fired from a job and write an entire book about it, that's the only word that we can describe. 00:35:36 Speaker 2: Listen. 00:35:37 Speaker 4: Also, this is not this is not like a slim book either. It is equally as strenuous as about four hundred pages. So you know, he's got a lot of story to tell. 00:35:48 Speaker 3: What have you learned from it? 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I learned quite I learned quite a lot. 00:35:52 Speaker 4: I learned that according to Well, because you know, the character's name is not Jane Manuel, it's Pablo Michaels. And according to Paula Michael's, he actually did everything on the show. 00:36:04 Speaker 2: He was the one who casted the girls in the show. 00:36:09 Speaker 4: He coordinated the photo shoots, he hired the guest judges. 00:36:13 Speaker 2: He even did the logo for America's ex Model. 00:36:17 Speaker 4: But in the book it's called Model Muse, so he was fully responsible. Apparently Keisha Cash not Tyra Banks. But Keisha Cash is a big old baby spoiled loves ice cream. Like he keeps he constantly keeps making a dig at her obsession with ice Who cares, which is so weird except Bridger. I don't know if you know this, but recently Tyra Banks has started her own ice cream company. 00:36:50 Speaker 2: You're kidding, well what It's called. 00:36:53 Speaker 4: Smice Cream And you can only get sm ice cream at a Santa Monica location where she has opened up a store called model Land. 00:37:05 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:37:06 Speaker 4: And it's supposed to be an immersive experience. 00:37:10 Speaker 3: For the four people familiar with Model Land. For you and the three people that hat. 00:37:17 Speaker 4: I mean she opened it and then the pandemic came no literally like within four days. But apparently it's opening back up and like my scream is the thing that is happening. 00:37:26 Speaker 3: She got the PPP loan and she's open open for business. Do you know what sort of flavors they're serving? 00:37:34 Speaker 4: I don't know. All I know is that there's the ice cream flavor. And then in every pint there is something called a Smize surprise. 00:37:44 Speaker 3: And is it like a little toy? Is it like a loose coin? A too? 00:37:49 Speaker 2: You won't say? 00:37:50 Speaker 3: It could be all of those things, Tyra. She I mean, I'll hand it to her. She's doing whatever she wants and she's you know, I'm an author, I'm an ice cream maker, you know. 00:38:02 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:38:04 Speaker 4: I think she's she's planning to be the next Willie Wong. I think that's her and that's her next like career path. But you know you got to, you know, you got to give it up for someone who wears a lot of hats. Oh yeah, and takes big swings because tier Banks loves swinging big so you know, and I say this with love because their tire Banks is an ice she's she's a camp icon, she's incredible, and like, of course, of course I was going to read her freaking fictional book about a school for models. 00:38:42 Speaker 2: Of course, I. 00:38:43 Speaker 3: Was, now, Oscar, is there another model in novel? 00:38:47 Speaker 2: Bridger? There is no second model? 00:38:50 Speaker 3: Well when was this publisher? May you know? Five years? And the next one may take ten. Let's see, this was twenty eleven, so this is kind of her winds of Winter. I would say, this is ya, this is yeah. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: You know. She was interviewed a long time ago about Model Land two and she said, there is going to be a Model ND sequel, but it won't be in book form. 00:39:13 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:39:13 Speaker 3: Interesting, that's an interesting way to sidestick, right, that's an interesting way to say. Now it's going to be a three minute song. 00:39:22 Speaker 2: But what I think it's a store? 00:39:23 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, storm, Oh my god. So what's the third iteration of this going to be? 00:39:33 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I would I would like to think that it would be a theme park. That's that's my that's you know, if I could dream big a theme park, or at the. 00:39:43 Speaker 2: Very least a VR experience. 00:39:45 Speaker 3: Oh, I would love a VR experience. My guess was like a ski boat but you know, just based on the trajectory of how this is going. I don't you know, But Tyra, do you need to do what the Model Land universe tells you to do. I'm not I'm not your editor, I'm not your publisher. I'm merely a dedicated fan of the books. 00:40:06 Speaker 4: Half an hour, if Tyra Banks writes another Model Land book, I I'm going to be chomping at the bit to read. 00:40:15 Speaker 2: The sequel. I oh my god, Oh my gosh, could you imagine? 00:40:20 Speaker 4: I would love to live in a world where tire Banks writes a Model Land like series like the Harry Potter books. 00:40:25 Speaker 3: Should I should I get back into the gift bag and see what else? 00:40:29 Speaker 1: Yes? 00:40:29 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, please do? 00:40:32 Speaker 3: There are multiple things in here, Oscar. What I'm taking, I'm bringing both out at once is that okay, by all means, there are a lot of things in here. Okay, the first thing. 00:40:43 Speaker 2: Just get you a book? How lame that cares about your studies? 00:40:52 Speaker 3: No? Well, the next thing is a little troll doll that I think at some point the eyes probably probably would have lit up exactly. 00:41:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, you press the belly button and the eyes lit up. But the batteries have died. 00:41:10 Speaker 3: And it's it looks like a difficult battery to find. 00:41:14 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would say impossible. It's like one is like one of those disky batteries. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: It's like a watch battery I would have had to take to radio shack or something. 00:41:23 Speaker 2: I know. 00:41:23 Speaker 3: Rip, tell me, why did you put this troll in the bag? 00:41:27 Speaker 4: Okay, So the reason why the troll is in there is because I wanted you to experience my love of trolls. I'm a big troll fan. I consider myself to be a troll. I call myself the trol all the time. I love trolls. I used to have I I there's a picture of me looking the coolest I will ever look in my entire life. I was about like eleven or twelve, and I was wearing a hypercolor t shirt. This is like the nineties, some like Joe Cool, lime green shore arts, and a troll doll hanging around my neck that I you. I used shoelaces to tie the arms together and put them around my neck like a necklace because I love troll dolls that much. And so I had a little collection of troll dolls and I was looking at my troll doll collection. I was like, I feel like I should chair my love of trolls to Bridger and this one, this one was like the most interactive troll Because. 00:42:29 Speaker 3: So I've taken your most interactive troll from you. 00:42:32 Speaker 2: This no no, no, no, no no. I definitely want you to have it. I have so many trolls. 00:42:40 Speaker 3: That's the line of your Tinder bio. 00:42:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the only information I have them. So many trolls, period, no picture, nothing, And let me tell you, I get dates. 00:42:54 Speaker 3: I get dates. I was a pretty big troll person myself. I think you know, they were just such an enormous thing through the novelius. I remember, you know one that was about foot tall and kind of a ninja outfit. 00:43:09 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wait a second, do you remember I don't know. I think we're about the same age. I feel like we. You know, were there troll dolls specifically designed for boys? Because I know that the troll dolls that I love were marketed towards girls. 00:43:27 Speaker 3: I think there were because I had one that was in like a little ninja costume or what have you. 00:43:31 Speaker 4: Yes, and they were based off of they had a cartoon show. 00:43:36 Speaker 3: Do you know this, how you have not? I'm not familiar with that in the least. 00:43:40 Speaker 4: There was like a specifically nineties trolls aesthetic that was different from like the cutsie trolls. 00:43:46 Speaker 2: That right we know and love. They were like what are they called? Oh my gosh, this is going to bother me, Bridger, I'm gonna find out. 00:43:56 Speaker 3: Well, you can't bring it up. I then just leave us all hanging. 00:43:58 Speaker 2: Oh I want to know, my goodness, yes, I don't even know what's right. 00:44:02 Speaker 4: I'm just typing. I'm googling troll dolls for boys and it's not helping. 00:44:07 Speaker 2: Okay. Troll Force nineteen ninety two. 00:44:10 Speaker 3: Troll Force. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: Do you remember this. 00:44:11 Speaker 3: I'm having a real true flashback to this. It's make wow, this is so bizarre. Troll Force. Oh my goodness. Yes, the troll Force was too scary for me. They were the original battle trolls. 00:44:26 Speaker 2: Too scary for me. 00:44:28 Speaker 3: Was this the battle trolls? Is that what we're thinking? 00:44:30 Speaker 2: There were the battle trolls? 00:44:31 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely I remember these and they're they're hideous that They're absolutely hideous esting. 00:44:39 Speaker 4: But this was at a time where like boys like gross stuff and girls like cute stuff. It's the same thing, like you know, like the easy bake oven, right, So they took the easy bake oven and then they put bugs in it and it became creepy. 00:44:53 Speaker 2: Crawlers of course, and that was just like the aesthetic for boys in the nineties. 00:44:58 Speaker 3: Just gross and scary, goosebumps s exactly. Yes, I will say I'm looking I'm now looking up these troll the battle trolls, and they're reminding me there was another category of trolls, and I who, I truly have no idea who they were for. Well, they were for me because they they were the gayest troll male trolls you could. They were muscle trolls in leather gear. No, they were like they would be wearing like leather vests and short leather shorts. But they were for kids. They were like sexy trolls. What I yes, absolutely, and I hope to find they were weirdly hot s. 00:45:43 Speaker 2: They were like trolls. 00:45:45 Speaker 3: I can't remember exactly, but I remember they were like muscle trolls, which they were way too musclely to not. Whoever was creating them wanted these trolls to be sexy. Yeah, that's I'll say that but yet there were four children, so you know what a weird blessed whoever was creating these things. 00:46:07 Speaker 2: The nineties was so weird. 00:46:09 Speaker 4: Do you remember those nineties comics like every like specifically, I'm talking about the X Men comics in the nineties. The way that they designed those the x Men hyper sexualized. All the men were ripped and their clothes were like stuck to their skin, you know what I mean. They and then they released, oh my god, then they released like a swimsuit, like comic do you remember this bridger? Okay, they released a Marvel swimsuit because I remember because I had the cards. 00:46:42 Speaker 2: Oh I'm a big card collector. 00:46:43 Speaker 4: Oh sure, sure, back in the nineties, and like they released like trading cards where it was like the most sexualized Marvel comic characters ever. 00:46:56 Speaker 3: Male and female. 00:46:59 Speaker 2: But it was gay. 00:47:00 Speaker 4: It was like so gay, even before I knew the concept of gay. 00:47:06 Speaker 2: I was like, this feels odd. This, I don't know, this is like. 00:47:10 Speaker 3: A lot in a speedo. Well, good for you know, the comic book industry, Good for the troll industry for truly sneaking this in, for for us, for the rest of us who didn't know what to do with ourselves the swimsuit issue of a comic book? What does that even mean? 00:47:33 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm literally sending the link to you right now. 00:47:39 Speaker 3: What what am I looking at? 00:47:42 Speaker 2: You? 00:47:43 Speaker 3: Some mariner with a you know, like a seashell bikini like this is else. 00:47:52 Speaker 4: Aerial warn the Little Mermaid, but instead of a bra, it's a freaking cod piece. 00:47:57 Speaker 2: It's a jockstrap. 00:47:59 Speaker 3: This is incredible. 00:48:02 Speaker 2: This was Was this for four children? I guess? I mean definitely not four children. 00:48:08 Speaker 3: There's a little a little description that says, could the sub mariner's ferocity reflect some the words to blurry uh some blank of having to done such as skimpy little number. So this is whoever was in charge of this? I mean, now I'm saying the Punisher with a similar thing with the punisher's skull. I mean, we're seeing every comic book character you could possibly think of. Look, you know, good for all of us. That's what I'm going to say about everything that's happening. You know, this was kind of fan art before You're right, I suppose. 00:48:46 Speaker 2: I mean this is like pre Dvien art, I guess. 00:48:49 Speaker 4: Oh. 00:48:49 Speaker 3: And now I'm picking up this nail polish, which is Marvel. 00:48:53 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what. 00:48:54 Speaker 3: What you gave me a Marvel nail polish? 00:48:59 Speaker 2: I did. 00:48:59 Speaker 3: It's a plan to talk about the comic books. 00:49:03 Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all. 00:49:05 Speaker 3: This is perfect, This is so wild. What why did you give me comic book nail polish? Oh it's for Miniso, which I love. I love a trip to Miniso. 00:49:17 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:49:18 Speaker 4: Well, I was at Miniso because the Minisa just opened up around where I live and I love Obviously, I love nail polish and I want to spread it. I want to spread the joy of nail polish throughout the world. So I was like, I'm gonna give it. 00:49:28 Speaker 3: Of course, I go to buy. 00:49:30 Speaker 2: I bought one for me, and I bought one for you. 00:49:33 Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. This is wonderful. I haven't worn nail polish in years. Maybe it's the time I get back into it. 00:49:38 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:49:39 Speaker 3: I mean with a Marvel I've become part of the Marvel universe, Marvel nail verse. This is incredible, Okay. I mean it literally has nothing to do with Marvel outside of saying Marvel. 00:49:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just black nail polish with a stickers stuck to it. 00:49:57 Speaker 2: That's it, and that's marketing. 00:50:00 Speaker 3: You know that's marketing for you. Oh my god, this package really does come together in a strange way because then there's a mockingbird pin, which kind of ties in with the young adult fiction. It's true, yes, yes, but was there any any real reason you put it in the bank? 00:50:15 Speaker 2: You know what? I thought? 00:50:18 Speaker 4: I think this would be a nice pairing with the book. It's an excellent ary, like you know, like a wine and cheese. I was like, well, you know, you got to have the novel, you know, they go hand in hand. 00:50:33 Speaker 3: And this is I would say, this is the little bit of breeed that goes along with this beautiful bottle of wine that is Model. 00:50:39 Speaker 2: Land, Yes, perfectly aged. 00:50:42 Speaker 3: Do you read anything you would actually like? 00:50:47 Speaker 2: No? No, I do. 00:50:53 Speaker 3: I do. 00:50:53 Speaker 4: I'm a big reader. I love to read. I read all the time, Uh, specifically fiction. Right, I'm trying to read more nonfiction, but I just like don't know what's good nonfiction. The only nonfiction I'll read is like memoirs from like yeah, like but like from like fran Dresser. Like I'll read a fran Dresser memoir. 00:51:18 Speaker 3: Right, but it's probably entertaining and enlightening in some way. 00:51:21 Speaker 2: Cancer Schmanscher very good. 00:51:23 Speaker 3: That's right, that's the name of it. 00:51:24 Speaker 2: Very good. 00:51:25 Speaker 3: I mean, bless fran Dresser. She's an I mean truly, and I'm sure her life story is fascinating. Oh yes, oh yes, Oscar, it's time to play a game. Do you want to play a game called Gift Master or a game called gift or a curse? 00:51:41 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh geez. 00:51:43 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it is once we begin playing. Let's do Gift Master. Okay, I need a number between one and ten eight. Okay, I have to do some light calculating while I do this. Don't laugh at that. I have to do the calculating. I have to calculate the game pieces. So, and this is going to only be in your benefit, Oscar, because now you could promote something, you can recommend something, you can reach out to a lost loved one, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:52:13 Speaker 2: Great, awesome. 00:52:15 Speaker 4: So I mean, hey, listen, there's many ways in which you can contact me if you want to. You know, you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at Osimo Ozzymo. Also, you can follow me in the many podcasts that I Hi host too many podcasts, Bridger, namely, I host a LATINX comedy podcast called Spanish Aki Presents and you can follow me at Spanish Aqui Presents on Instagram. Also, I host a Disney podcast where we watch every single Disney animated movie in chronological order. We did that, now we're doing every d com so you can follow us at Inside the Disney Vaults on Instagram. I also host a music video podcast with my good friend Monogappion called Podcast Killed the Video Star, and you can follow that account at podcast Killed the Video Star on Instagram. 00:53:07 Speaker 3: Okay, Oscar, I'm almost done here. 00:53:09 Speaker 2: You're not done yet. Okay, fine. 00:53:13 Speaker 4: I'm an air Sun, Gemini Rising, Sagittarius Moon. 00:53:19 Speaker 2: It's a tricky combination. I have to say. 00:53:21 Speaker 4: I'm not easy, not easy, but I'm fun. I'm a very fun time. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: So okay, you're in luck. I have figured out all of the game pieces as far as I can tell. I mean, knock on wood? Is that what you say? You're in this situation? It's hard to say, is it. It's certainly not. Okay, this is how the game works. And Listener, I'm just going to promote you know, you can buy a home version of this now. Listener wrote in and said that I had an opportunity on a past podcast to promote this, and I do a very bad job of it. So I'm going to say, now, go get Gift Master the game. It's very fun. This is how it works, Oscar. I'm gonna name three potential gifts things you can give away, and I'm gonna name three people, famous people. Okay, and you're gonna tell me which of those people you're gonna give which gift and why? 00:54:15 Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, and there's no there's there's no return policy. I did not give them a gift receipt. 00:54:20 Speaker 3: There is no gift receipt. They have to appreciate this, okay, kind of weave it into their daily life, okay, Okay. Number one the first gift a villa on Lake Como. Now that's a nice gift. 00:54:32 Speaker 2: So I have money in this, Yeah. 00:54:34 Speaker 3: You've got money of core. You have just for some reason, happened to have one of them flying around. 00:54:39 Speaker 2: I inherited one, of course. 00:54:40 Speaker 3: Yes. Second up is the SIMS two. So that's a copy of the popular PC video game, the SIMS two, not SIMS one, not SIMS three or four, not an expansion pack. We're talking about the Sims too. Yeah, right, Number three is a dish rag. So that's, you know, more of a humble gift, okay, And you're going to be giving these two the following people. Number one is a musician, rapper singer, Azelia Banks. 00:55:13 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, okay, she's a character. I'm just gonna say it's a character. Second up, daughter of Bruce Rumor Willis, so Rumor. I couldn't quite tell you what Rumor does, but I'm aware of her presence. 00:55:34 Speaker 4: She's at her coture. She was in the House Bunny with Anna Faris. She also a contestant on the Mass Singer. She was the line. She did very well. She should have been in the top three and was was not, and I was very upset about it. 00:55:48 Speaker 3: But yes I didn't he realized. I was speaking to Rumor Willis's representatives. I've got Rumor's manager on the line. 00:55:55 Speaker 2: She's a very dif ferriend. 00:55:59 Speaker 3: And finally this is uh, I'm trying to find it here. Oh, we've got Fergie okay for herself, Fergie, ferg there are the people that you've got to give these gifts to, and what will you do? 00:56:15 Speaker 2: Okay, this seems to be a no brainer for me. 00:56:19 Speaker 4: I would I would immediately give the villa to my very good close friend Rumor Willis Rumor. If you're listening, right back to my text. I've been texting you forever you have, he run back. I would give a copy of SIMS to to probably Azalea Banks. Okay, she'd probably appreciated and on some kitchy level, right yes, uh, And you know, the dish rag would probably go to fath Fergie only because she sweats a lot when she performed. She does a lot of you've seen the clip on Good Morning America when she did the she did the cartwheel as she was singing that note. But she sweats a lot, you know, So I'm gonna give her that because she probably needs it, you know. 00:57:13 Speaker 3: I know. I want to say something here. I don't think I've ever pronounced Azalea Banks's name until now, and I think I've pronounced it incorrectly. 00:57:21 Speaker 2: What did you say? 00:57:22 Speaker 3: In my mind have been saying Azalea? 00:57:24 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:57:24 Speaker 4: Is it because the flowers named Azelia? I assume is the flower pronounced Azelia? Probably not. I'm not the person to ask. 00:57:33 Speaker 3: I'm certainly these are two areas that I'm well, actually, I actually do like a lot of Azalea's music. Yes, her public personas side, I mean, she's what I call a problematic fave. 00:57:46 Speaker 4: I also really love Azalea's music a lot, but you know, she's got some dents. 00:57:55 Speaker 3: You know. Also, she kind of called out Grimes and Elon Musk for their whatever is happening in their house. You know. 00:58:01 Speaker 4: I will say there's a similarity between Tyra and Azalea Banks, and that is that they both. 00:58:07 Speaker 2: Love to swing. Swing big, swing big. 00:58:11 Speaker 4: I mean Azalea would probably literally swing fists at you, but she also swings. 00:58:17 Speaker 3: She really honored for Azalea to just absolutely break my nose. So I don't know, Universe do with that information, what you need to do. Bring her to me, let her just crush my to me. Oh, we're getting word from Annalise. Our producer looked it up. It's Azaileah, So I think you were right. 00:58:42 Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, Now Annalise is the flower pronounced Azalia as well or Azalea. 00:58:48 Speaker 3: Oh yes, that's what we need to know, and that may be what she was referring to here. I feel like we're talking to o Ouiji board right because Analie is not currently president on the Zoom listener. 00:58:59 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like we're we're conjured. Yeah, we are coming her spirit. Yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:59:06 Speaker 3: I guess we'll await word. Uh In the meantime, Oscar, this part of the podcast is called I said no emails. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of them just kind of assumes that I'm willing to give advice on gifts this kind of thing. And so look, I'm merciful. I try to do what I can do, and uh so I answer questions despite. 00:59:32 Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing about you, Bridger. Is that your mercy? Thank you? I tell everyone that my great mercy. Yeah, oh, my merciful friend, Bridger. 00:59:41 Speaker 3: I put that on my resume. That's your skills for sure. Okay, would you help me answer a question here? 00:59:51 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:59:52 Speaker 3: Okay, this says and I hate to say this, Oscar. Usually the person will say Bridger and guest Bridger and adjective guests. This person's just saying Bridger. But that doesn't mean you're we're going to leave you out of this. 01:00:03 Speaker 2: Let's say it's totally fine. I'm not even here. 01:00:08 Speaker 3: It is Bridger loving the pod. I'm subscribed, rated and reviewed, smiley face emoji times three. So we're getting a lot of you know, look, I'm not going to say anything nasty about that. 01:00:19 Speaker 2: They're very nice. Honestly, they're hoping that you're going to be nice about the response. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: Right, and so I'm going to be. I'm you know, they I'm not going to They don't have to be. Oscar's going Yeah, Oscar is completely free to do whatever he wants. This says, I have to take my son he is six, to get a gift for his father, my ex because I am the bigger person when it comes to this stuff. Okay, he will, Well, I listen to this any gift suggestions, keep in mind this this is never reciprocated. Thanks, and that's from Asia. 01:00:52 Speaker 2: Oh first of all, that's rude. He doesn't give you gifts. 01:00:57 Speaker 3: This X sounds like maybe not a great I mean, it sounds like there's a reason he's no longer part of the equation. 01:01:05 Speaker 4: Oh yes, one hundred percent. But I positive question though, what she's giving. She's trying to buy a gift for her son to give the dad. So the gift isn't from her technically, it's from the son, right right, So what I would say is how about this year, not only is your son giving him a present, but you're giving him a present to send a very strong message that you are indeed the bigger person's. 01:01:37 Speaker 3: That's an incredible thing about gift giving is it immediately puts you in the driver's position. You get to decide what speed you're driving. And this year, why not go one thousand miles an hour with a wonderful little gift from son let's call him Trevor, and also from you and suddenly X person, a boyfriend, husband, whoever he is. Feels like a true dirt bag. 01:02:07 Speaker 4: Yes, because the message that you're sending is I did it first, You never bothered to do it, and listen. It could your intentions could be very nice and pure and be like, hey, I care about you, here's the gift, but we all know the underlying message. You have the power, right and no matter what happens, you will always have the power. 01:02:32 Speaker 3: You have the patent on this patent pending. I'm the better gift giver. That said, what is the son? What does a son give a father? I guess that what does a six year old give a father? So the macaroni necklace? Is it a drawing. Is it a picture of the son himself? 01:02:51 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you meant a picture of the son. 01:02:54 Speaker 3: Like taking the. 01:02:56 Speaker 2: Frame. 01:02:56 Speaker 3: It an over exposed photo the sun. It's essentially just kind of a white blur on cheap photo paper. I mean that may be all this father's worth. That's been nice. 01:03:09 Speaker 4: Listen, you're not for the son. You don't want to like overspend. This is definitely like a craft's project as a gift. I think it's very I think that's the way that you want to do it. You don't want to get the dad like a nosehair tremmor, you know, like say that. 01:03:26 Speaker 3: For when you're the kids in college. That's you know, later in life, dad gift. 01:03:30 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't ever, don't give the dad a gift or the ex a gift that he actually needs. 01:03:38 Speaker 3: Right from the sun. 01:03:39 Speaker 4: This is just a gift saying like I'm six years old and I'm thinking of. 01:03:42 Speaker 3: My dad, right or you know, craft project you get in son's ear and say why don't you draw a picture of you and mommy having an incredible time? Ridger, I'm just putting some thoughts out there. This is why people write in I'm an expert. I've got to make my paycheck. 01:04:03 Speaker 4: Make sure that both of us are smiling really big. Why don't you draw another man next to mommy, Draw another man next. 01:04:13 Speaker 3: To mommy, incredible head of hair, this kind of thing. I think that that's the way to go. I think you know, Oscar, gave you just right up off the top that incredible advice of you also giving a nice gift that you know should be a good gift that looks great but doesn't necessarily make the excess life any easier exactly. 01:04:37 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we don't want to make it easier for the ex at all. 01:04:40 Speaker 4: Like you said, you are the bigger person, but like if you want to be the big gift person, if you give a gift. 01:04:46 Speaker 3: Right answered, sealed, delivered. I don't know that that makes any sense that I'm saying that out loud right now, But that's fine. We're done answering questions, Oscar. I thought that we did such an excellent job that I don't care. Yeah, I think we did a great job, Oscar. I've had a wonderful time with you. I've had such a good time, and now I've got four gifts. I've got a four and also a five hundred page novel that I can just dive into. I will say on Alys has now circled back with some information. Took me a sec, but it seems both Miss Banks and the Flower share of pronunciation based on Google dot com and an interview introduction from the Breakfast Club. So there's your answer. 01:05:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Wigi board and we were really racing and the Wiji board. 01:05:31 Speaker 2: That was a lot of information. 01:05:34 Speaker 3: Oscar, thank you so much for being here, and thank you for this wonderful give. 01:05:37 Speaker 2: Richard what a treat. Thank you so much for having me. This is so fun. I can't wait to hate you, you know, off the record in person. 01:05:46 Speaker 3: It's going to turn violent very very quick, very soon, and hopefully the listener will get to see that in the headlines. 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And if you're in interested in advertising on the show, go to mideral dot com slash ads. 01:07:06 Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're I guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guess, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me