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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here. I thought I made myself

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Speaker 2: Welcome to?

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Speaker 3: I said, no gift, I'm Richard Wineger. Oh there's not

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Speaker 3: much any of us can do about that at this point.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're doing okay. I hope you have a

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Speaker 3: nice day. I had a rather un eventful day, not

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Speaker 3: much going on, and that's okay. And if there's not

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Speaker 3: hope that something exciting has happened, or something exciting is

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Speaker 3: about to happen. For example, what if you were to

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Speaker 3: listen to the rest of this podcast with our fantastic guest,

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Speaker 3: none other than Oscar Montoya, who's just delightful Oscar, Welcome to,

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Speaker 3: I said, Nokia, Oh.

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Speaker 4: My god, what a great day would be if people

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Speaker 4: just like listen to this entire episode and had a

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Speaker 2: I think it would be a great, super eventful day

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Speaker 3: I feel like we've provided a little plan for them

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Speaker 3: moving forward. I think so, and you know, maybe they snapped.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they've already snapped and turned off the podcast, and

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Speaker 4: And to those people, I just want to say, you're

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Speaker 3: Well they're gone now, so we can say whatever we

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Speaker 2: I know. It's so good.

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Speaker 4: It's like having someone that you didn't invite come to

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, We're never part of the plan. Oscar, how are

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing great, Bridger, how are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty well. I had, you know, I feel

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Speaker 3: You know, we're recording a little you know, later in

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Speaker 4: Okay, question about this coffee talk. Okay, I'm a big

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Speaker 4: I fully never slept in my early twenties. I was

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I just want coffee. I drink it black. Now. I

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Speaker 2: I have it with oat milk and that's it.

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Speaker 2: It's weird. My gosh, I know someone. I'm not gonna out.

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Speaker 3: Oh I don't. I do not believe that. How does

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Speaker 2: Doesn't like doesn't like music, doesn't like anything to dance. No,

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Speaker 4: I told you it was weird, friend, and you recognize

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Speaker 3: It's just so much. It just feels like a lot

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Speaker 4: Oh Richer plug it in? Of course, you better believe

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Speaker 4: I love that song. Are you kidding me? It's an

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Speaker 3: For the United Nations for world peace. What does that

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Speaker 3: say about you, Jerry?

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Speaker 2: How rude?

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Speaker 3: You could have been having fun. There could have there

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Speaker 3: It's part of one of the great joys of living

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00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. You get to be in the car

441
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: for extremely long periods of time, and if you like

442
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: to listen to music, this is the place to be.

443
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: So I drive over to your house and I text you,

444
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 3: I'm here. Here comes Oscar saunters out holding a bag,

445
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 3: and I thought, what's happening? Am I not going in?

446
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: What's what's the situation here?

447
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: So I will say I thought about that after. I

448
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 4: was like, I was kind of rude different.

449
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: I should have assign if he wanted a drink or something.

450
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I think it like a drug deal,

451
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: is what it felt like.

452
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: All that aside, all the just absolute lack of manners aside,

453
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: you give me this bag, and you know, I was

454
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: beyond frazzled at this point, just adam confused.

455
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: I saw you do a couple of tap, like a

456
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: double take.

457
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: You know whatever. I drive home, thoughts racing through my head.

458
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 3: I had probably just had my second cold brew of

459
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: the day, so anxiety through the roof. And so I

460
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: get home and then it occurs to me, Oscar is

461
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: going to be on my podcast. I said, no gifts. Look,

462
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: I felt like I had been tricked, you know. I

463
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: I don't want to say I was broken hearted, but

464
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: I was broken hearted. I thought Oscar has done something

465
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: to me that is possibly unforgivable. And so I'm going

466
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: to ask you right now, Oscar, is this a gift

467
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: for me?

468
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 4: It one hundred percent is a gift for you, but

469
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: it does not necessarily is associated with this podcast. I

470
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 4: know the name of the podcast, and I know that

471
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: you don't like Getty gifts. I know that I recognize

472
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: that I respected that. Okay, this gift was for some

473
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 4: maybe another occasion, another random event that could have happened,

474
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, an early birthday gift, a

475
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: belated birthday gift.

476
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 3: Okay, what this feels like You're just dancing around the

477
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: subject and trying to absolve yourself of responsibility. And obviously

478
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,239
Speaker 3: I'm not going to allow that to happen. There's it

479
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 3: is unforgivable, but I will should I open it here

480
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: on the podcast.

481
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: I would love you know what, it would be a gift.

482
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: To me if you if you happy to do it,

483
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: happy to return the favor. Now, it's in this little

484
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: brown bag, which when you gave it to you did

485
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: indicate it's if it says Magpiees soft serve on it,

486
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: a local soft serve chain around Los Angeles. I assume

487
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: not soft serve ice cream because it's been in my

488
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: home for over a week.

489
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: I would I did tell you to refrigerate that as

490
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: soon as you got home. Actually, maybe don't open.

491
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: Well, let's see what's happening inside here. I'm gonna reach in.

492
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: It's a decent weight, I would say, let's get I'm.

493
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Gonna pull on down. And he guesses as to what

494
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: it could be.

495
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: From what I've felt, I would assume it feels book sized.

496
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: I've got the tissue right here. This is really becoming

497
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: an audio nightmare for the listener. Like I within what

498
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: I felt, I was like a book or a you know,

499
00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: two by four piece of wood, a journal. I've VHS

500
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: tape and extremely that would have to be like a

501
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: double VHS or you know, for VHS like Titanic. Yes, exactly,

502
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: but it doesn't have that squishiness, so I don't know

503
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: that it's uh actually, I don't think the Titanic came

504
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: in a Disney.

505
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry.

506
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: Squishy old vhs uh squishy. They were like the clamshlls.

507
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: They were at clamshows, but they were almost pillowy. I

508
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: loved them. I love the feel, and we don't have anything.

509
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 4: I've never squishy VHS tape.

510
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: They're fantastic. I would I would sleep on a bed

511
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: made of them. It's a gorgeous texture. That is kind

512
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: of now missing from Earth. I think it's probably deeply

513
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: bad for the environment. I'm sure there's just like a

514
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: whale full of a blockbuster's worth of that type of

515
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: VHS tapes. I don't want to break anyone's heart with

516
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: that image, but let's be honest. It's happened, we lived

517
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 3: through that.

518
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: It's probably copies of Free Willy the so.

519
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so those are my guesses.

520
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: But you don't have a VCR player, do you.

521
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: I don't have a VCR player.

522
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 4: Okay, great, okay, okay, because it was going to be

523
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: a VCR okay, but I was like, no, I'm just assumed.

524
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 3: No, I'm still look I'm still looking at it. But

525
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: I actually feel two things in here so far.

526
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: There's a couple of things in that.

527
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: Okay, one thing feels now still not looking at it,

528
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 3: I feel very proud of myself for not looking still.

529
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of it.

530
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: Feels like a book. Is this the thing I should

531
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 3: pick up first? Yes?

532
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: I think this is This is the focal point.

533
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the focal point.

534
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: So I don't know if you want to lead up

535
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: to that or if you want to start with the

536
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 4: big the centerpiece and then work, you know, and then

537
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 4: do this.

538
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: Let's do centerpiece that accessories love it?

539
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Do that?

540
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: Okay, this, okay, so I can confirm now this is

541
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 3: a book. So good for me for guessing.

542
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Well, not just a book. It's a hardcover book.

543
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: Tyra Banks is model. I did not realize that, Tyer

544
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: Banks said dicter toWin authership bridge.

545
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: What it would make me the happiest person on this

546
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: planet if you could please read the inside jacket, of course,

547
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: of the book.

548
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: Right now here we go. I'm going to put on

549
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: my best reading voice. Everyone buckle in. No one gets

550
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 3: in without being asked. And with her untamable hair, large forehead,

551
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: and gawky body, Tuki Tuki de la Creme isn't expecting

552
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: an invitation. Model Land, the exclusive mysterious place on top

553
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: of the mountain, never dares to make an appearance in

554
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: her dreams, but someone has plans for Tuki before she

555
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: can blink her mismatched eyes. Tuki, fine, is it Tuki

556
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: or Tuki? Because it looks like cookie?

557
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know.

558
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to keep saying Tuki. Tuki finds herself in

559
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: the very place every girl in the world obsesses, and

560
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: three unlikely girls have joined her. Only seven extraordinary young

561
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: women become in toks of Bella's each year, famous, worshiped, magical.

562
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: What happens to those who don't make it? Well, no

563
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: one really speaks of that. Some things are better left unsaid.

564
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: Thrown into a world where she doesn't seem to belong,

565
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: Tuki glimpses of future that could be hers if she

566
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: survives the beastly Catwalk Corridor and terrifying thigh high boot

567
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: Camp or could it? Dark Rumors like silken threads swirl

568
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: around the question of why Tuki and Tuki and her

569
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: new friends were selected, and the shadows around Model Land

570
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: hide sinister secrets. Are you ready? Model Land is waiting

571
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: for you?

572
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness? Wow?

573
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: Have you read this? Not only have I read it,

574
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: you wrote it?

575
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: But I am to be.

576
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: I.

577
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: I did a series on Facebook Live a couple of

578
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: years ago, I want to say, like four years ago,

579
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: where I read every chapter on Facebook Live. How long

580
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: did that to experience? Like a I want to say

581
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: year and a half. Look how many chapters there are

582
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: in that freaking book? I just opened it close to

583
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: the slim hardcover book I have to tell you the listeners.

584
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: Forty I want to say forty five chapters in this book.

585
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: There are hundreds and hundreds of pages. This is five

586
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty three pages. I want to say. That's

587
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: a that is you know, Lord of the Rings level novel.

588
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: And this is written by Tyra Banks, and essentially, I

589
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: mean clearly this is heavily inspired by Harry Potter. Of

590
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: course you know it is Harry Potter meets America's next

591
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: top Model.

592
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I really, I mean I read it.

593
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: Took about a year and a half to read the

594
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: entire book, and so people were so I have okay, Richard,

595
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 4: I have a kid. You not I have four copies

596
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: of Model Land because while I was reading this book,

597
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: people sent me copies of Model What. I found a

598
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 4: copy at a thrust store in LA for two dollars

599
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: and I was like, what is this?

600
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: Tirebanks wrote a book, a novel, a fiction book. Unbelievable.

601
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: So I bought it and then I started reading and

602
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: I was like, no, this needms to be like a

603
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: shared experience. So at the time, Facebook life was like

604
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 4: a thing, and so I was like, that's that's what

605
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to do with my time.

606
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: And then after that people just started sending me copies

607
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: of the book, but.

608
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: Send some other tyra thing or other trash. You're sitting

609
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: there with that that doesn't make any sense, or at

610
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: least a signed copy.

611
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: It's very funny. It's very funny.

612
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 4: But a friend of mine worked with tire Banks Banks

613
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 4: on something.

614
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: I think it was like life size too, okay, and

615
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: he mentioned.

616
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: This like Facebook reading but you know, listen, it's just funny.

617
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: And she's just like, oh, that's so sweet, like she

618
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: knows that I did this.

619
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: But you I mean, I can't imagine she's ever going

620
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: to access any of that.

621
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: I don't think destroyed thinks, Oh yeah, she would. I would.

622
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: I would.

623
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: I would cease to exist, she would blink her eyes

624
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: and I would just disappear.

625
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: But is it essentially like kind of the outcast heads

626
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: to an academy, finds out they have a special something

627
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: about themselves, and then is there some sort of villain?

628
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: There is a villain the mom, the mom took mom.

629
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: Her name is Creamy Dela Creme.

630
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, and uh, you know.

631
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: Creamy Dela Creme is someone who wants to be a

632
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: model and never had that opportunity, so gets really jealous

633
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 4: of Tooki after she gets accepted into model Land. And

634
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: Tookie also has a sister whose name I don't remember

635
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: because it was just very normal. It was just a

636
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: normal name. And the mom is trying to she's like

637
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 4: the pretty girl. She's making her be like she's gonna

638
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: she's like our beautiful daughter. But when she doesn't get

639
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: accepted and Tookie gets accepted, that's where Creamy sort of

640
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: goes nuts.

641
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: Creamy Creamy goes nuts is the sequel. So, as you

642
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: were reading the book, did do you feel like the

643
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: audience was growing where people loving it?

644
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: Yes?

645
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: And actually it's so funny because now I do weekly.

646
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: I host a show on Instagram Live called hashtag how

647
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: I'm reading trash before I read just like garbage.

648
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know this.

649
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know anything about America's next

650
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: sop model or like that whole.

651
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm so ignorant of the entire thing. I feel a

652
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: little bit ashamed of it.

653
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: No, Bridgie, you should. It feels like.

654
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: A giant cultural thing and it's just, for whatever reason,

655
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 3: completely passed me by.

656
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think you're totally fine. It's it's

657
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 4: okay to miss. But now I'm reading. So je Manuel,

658
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: who was the like creative consultant on America's Next Sop Model,

659
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: another reality TV show sort of icon, released a book

660
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: called I don't know if.

661
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: You can see it.

662
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: It's called The Wig, the Bitch, and the Meltdown, and

663
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: it is a novel by Jane Manuel H sort of

664
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 4: talking about his accounts on his experiences on America's Next

665
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 4: Top Model. He got fired from the show a couple

666
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: of years ago, and I guess this is like a

667
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 4: tell all version of his experience.

668
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: Kind of disguises fiction exactly so he doesn't get sued,

669
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So does it feel like

670
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: a factual account? Does it feel like he's coming from

671
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: a real place or.

672
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: It does, And it also feels incredibly, for lack of

673
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: a better word, petty.

674
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: Well, I think when you get fired from a job

675
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: and write an entire book about it, that's the only

676
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: word that we can describe.

677
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: Listen.

678
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: Also, this is not this is not like a slim

679
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 4: book either. It is equally as strenuous as about four

680
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 4: hundred pages. So you know, he's got a lot of

681
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: story to tell.

682
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: What have you learned from it?

683
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I learned quite I learned quite a lot.

684
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: I learned that according to Well, because you know, the

685
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: character's name is not Jane Manuel, it's Pablo Michaels. And

686
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 4: according to Paula Michael's, he actually did everything on the show.

687
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: He was the one who casted the girls in the show.

688
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: He coordinated the photo shoots, he hired the guest judges.

689
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: He even did the logo for America's ex Model.

690
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: But in the book it's called Model Muse, so he

691
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: was fully responsible. Apparently Keisha Cash not Tyra Banks. But

692
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: Keisha Cash is a big old baby spoiled loves ice cream.

693
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: Like he keeps he constantly keeps making a dig at

694
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: her obsession with ice Who cares, which is so weird

695
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: except Bridger. I don't know if you know this, but

696
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: recently Tyra Banks has started her own ice cream company.

697
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: You're kidding, well what It's called.

698
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: Smice Cream And you can only get sm ice cream

699
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 4: at a Santa Monica location where she has opened up

700
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: a store called model Land.

701
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

702
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 4: And it's supposed to be an immersive experience.

703
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: For the four people familiar with Model Land. For you

704
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: and the three people that hat.

705
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 4: I mean she opened it and then the pandemic came

706
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 4: no literally like within four days. But apparently it's opening

707
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 4: back up and like my scream is the thing that

708
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 4: is happening.

709
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: She got the PPP loan and she's open open for business.

710
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: Do you know what sort of flavors they're serving?

711
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: I don't know. All I know is that there's the

712
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: ice cream flavor. And then in every pint there is

713
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: something called a Smize surprise.

714
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: And is it like a little toy? Is it like

715
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: a loose coin? A too?

716
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: You won't say?

717
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: It could be all of those things, Tyra. She I mean,

718
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: I'll hand it to her. She's doing whatever she wants

719
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: and she's you know, I'm an author, I'm an ice

720
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: cream maker, you know.

721
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

722
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: I think she's she's planning to be the next Willie Wong.

723
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: I think that's her and that's her next like career path.

724
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: But you know you got to, you know, you got

725
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: to give it up for someone who wears a lot

726
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: of hats. Oh yeah, and takes big swings because tier

727
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: Banks loves swinging big so you know, and I say

728
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 4: this with love because their tire Banks is an ice

729
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: she's she's a camp icon, she's incredible, and like, of course,

730
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: of course I was going to read her freaking fictional

731
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 4: book about a school for models.

732
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: Of course, I.

733
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: Was, now, Oscar, is there another model in novel?

734
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: Bridger? There is no second model?

735
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: Well when was this publisher? May you know? Five years?

736
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: And the next one may take ten. Let's see, this

737
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: was twenty eleven, so this is kind of her winds

738
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: of Winter. I would say, this is ya, this is yeah.

739
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 4: You know. She was interviewed a long time ago about

740
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: Model Land two and she said, there is going to

741
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: be a Model ND sequel, but it won't be in

742
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: book form.

743
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: Oh.

744
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: Interesting, that's an interesting way to sidestick, right, that's an

745
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: interesting way to say. Now it's going to be a

746
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: three minute song.

747
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: But what I think it's a store?

748
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, storm, Oh my god. So what's the

749
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: third iteration of this going to be?

750
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I would I would like to

751
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 4: think that it would be a theme park. That's that's

752
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: my that's you know, if I could dream big a

753
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: theme park, or at the.

754
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Very least a VR experience.

755
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I would love a VR experience. My guess was

756
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: like a ski boat but you know, just based on

757
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: the trajectory of how this is going. I don't you know,

758
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: But Tyra, do you need to do what the Model

759
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: Land universe tells you to do. I'm not I'm not

760
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: your editor, I'm not your publisher. I'm merely a dedicated

761
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: fan of the books.

762
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 4: Half an hour, if Tyra Banks writes another Model Land book,

763
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: I I'm going to be chomping at the bit to read.

764
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: The sequel. I oh my god, Oh my gosh, could

765
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: you imagine?

766
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: I would love to live in a world where tire

767
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 4: Banks writes a Model Land like series like the Harry

768
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: Potter books.

769
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: Should I should I get back into the gift bag

770
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: and see what else?

771
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: Yes?

772
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes, please do?

773
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: There are multiple things in here, Oscar. What I'm taking,

774
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: I'm bringing both out at once is that okay, by

775
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: all means, there are a lot of things in here. Okay,

776
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: the first thing.

777
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: Just get you a book? How lame that cares about

778
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: your studies?

779
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 3: No? Well, the next thing is a little troll doll

780
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: that I think at some point the eyes probably probably

781
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: would have lit up exactly.

782
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you press the belly button and the eyes lit up.

783
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: But the batteries have died.

784
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 3: And it's it looks like a difficult battery to find.

785
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would say impossible. It's like one is

786
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: like one of those disky batteries.

787
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: It's like a watch battery I would have had to

788
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 3: take to radio shack or something.

789
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: I know.

790
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: Rip, tell me, why did you put this troll in

791
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: the bag?

792
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So the reason why the troll is in there

793
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: is because I wanted you to experience my love of trolls.

794
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm a big troll fan. I consider myself to be

795
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: a troll. I call myself the trol all the time.

796
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 4: I love trolls. I used to have I I there's

797
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: a picture of me looking the coolest I will ever

798
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 4: look in my entire life. I was about like eleven

799
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 4: or twelve, and I was wearing a hypercolor t shirt.

800
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: This is like the nineties, some like Joe Cool, lime

801
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: green shore arts, and a troll doll hanging around my

802
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: neck that I you. I used shoelaces to tie the

803
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: arms together and put them around my neck like a

804
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: necklace because I love troll dolls that much. And so

805
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: I had a little collection of troll dolls and I

806
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: was looking at my troll doll collection. I was like,

807
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: I feel like I should chair my love of trolls

808
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: to Bridger and this one, this one was like the

809
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: most interactive troll Because.

810
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: So I've taken your most interactive troll from you.

811
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: This no no, no, no, no no. I definitely want

812
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: you to have it. I have so many trolls.

813
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: That's the line of your Tinder bio.

814
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the only information I have them. So

815
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: many trolls, period, no picture, nothing, And let me tell you,

816
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 4: I get dates.

817
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: I get dates. I was a pretty big troll person myself.

818
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: I think you know, they were just such an enormous

819
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: thing through the novelius. I remember, you know one that

820
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 3: was about foot tall and kind of a ninja outfit.

821
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, wait a second, do you remember I

822
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 4: don't know. I think we're about the same age. I

823
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 4: feel like we. You know, were there troll dolls specifically

824
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: designed for boys? Because I know that the troll dolls

825
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 4: that I love were marketed towards girls.

826
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: I think there were because I had one that was

827
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: in like a little ninja costume or what have you.

828
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: Yes, and they were based off of they had a

829
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: cartoon show.

830
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: Do you know this, how you have not? I'm not

831
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: familiar with that in the least.

832
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: There was like a specifically nineties trolls aesthetic that was

833
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 4: different from like the cutsie trolls.

834
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 2: That right we know and love. They were like what

835
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: are they called? Oh my gosh, this is going to

836
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: bother me, Bridger, I'm gonna find out.

837
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: Well, you can't bring it up. I then just leave

838
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: us all hanging.

839
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh I want to know, my goodness, yes, I don't

840
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: even know what's right.

841
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: I'm just typing. I'm googling troll dolls for boys and

842
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: it's not helping.

843
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: Okay. Troll Force nineteen ninety two.

844
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 3: Troll Force.

845
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: Do you remember this.

846
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm having a real true flashback to this. It's make wow,

847
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: this is so bizarre. Troll Force. Oh my goodness. Yes,

848
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: the troll Force was too scary for me. They were

849
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: the original battle trolls.

850
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: Too scary for me.

851
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: Was this the battle trolls? Is that what we're thinking?

852
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: There were the battle trolls?

853
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, absolutely I remember these and they're

854
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: they're hideous that They're absolutely hideous esting.

855
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 4: But this was at a time where like boys like

856
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: gross stuff and girls like cute stuff. It's the same thing,

857
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 4: like you know, like the easy bake oven, right, So

858
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 4: they took the easy bake oven and then they put

859
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: bugs in it and it became creepy.

860
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: Crawlers of course, and that was just like the aesthetic

861
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: for boys in the nineties.

862
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: Just gross and scary, goosebumps s exactly. Yes, I will

863
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: say I'm looking I'm now looking up these troll the

864
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: battle trolls, and they're reminding me there was another category

865
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 3: of trolls, and I who, I truly have no idea

866
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: who they were for. Well, they were for me because

867
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: they they were the gayest troll male trolls you could.

868
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: They were muscle trolls in leather gear. No, they were

869
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 3: like they would be wearing like leather vests and short

870
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: leather shorts. But they were for kids. They were like

871
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: sexy trolls. What I yes, absolutely, and I hope to

872
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: find they were weirdly hot s.

873
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: They were like trolls.

874
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: I can't remember exactly, but I remember they were like

875
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 3: muscle trolls, which they were way too musclely to not.

876
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Whoever was creating them wanted these trolls to be sexy. Yeah,

877
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 3: that's I'll say that but yet there were four children,

878
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 3: so you know what a weird blessed whoever was creating

879
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: these things.

880
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: The nineties was so weird.

881
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: Do you remember those nineties comics like every like specifically,

882
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: I'm talking about the X Men comics in the nineties.

883
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: The way that they designed those the x Men hyper sexualized.

884
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: All the men were ripped and their clothes were like

885
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: stuck to their skin, you know what I mean. They

886
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: and then they released, oh my god, then they released

887
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: like a swimsuit, like comic do you remember this bridger? Okay,

888
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: they released a Marvel swimsuit because I remember because I

889
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 4: had the cards.

890
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Oh I'm a big card collector.

891
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: Oh sure, sure, back in the nineties, and like they

892
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: released like trading cards where it was like the most

893
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: sexualized Marvel comic characters ever.

894
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 3: Male and female.

895
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 2: But it was gay.

896
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: It was like so gay, even before I knew the

897
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 4: concept of gay.

898
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: I was like, this feels odd. This, I don't know,

899
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: this is like.

900
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: A lot in a speedo. Well, good for you know,

901
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: the comic book industry, Good for the troll industry for

902
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 3: truly sneaking this in, for for us, for the rest

903
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: of us who didn't know what to do with ourselves

904
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: the swimsuit issue of a comic book? What does that

905
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: even mean?

906
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm literally sending the link to you right now.

907
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 3: What what am I looking at?

908
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: You?

909
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: Some mariner with a you know, like a seashell bikini

910
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: like this is else.

911
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: Aerial warn the Little Mermaid, but instead of a bra,

912
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 4: it's a freaking cod piece.

913
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: It's a jockstrap.

914
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: This is incredible.

915
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: This was Was this for four children? I guess? I

916
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: mean definitely not four children.

917
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: There's a little a little description that says, could the

918
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: sub mariner's ferocity reflect some the words to blurry uh

919
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: some blank of having to done such as skimpy little number.

920
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 3: So this is whoever was in charge of this? I mean,

921
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: now I'm saying the Punisher with a similar thing with

922
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: the punisher's skull. I mean, we're seeing every comic book

923
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: character you could possibly think of. Look, you know, good

924
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: for all of us. That's what I'm going to say

925
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: about everything that's happening. You know, this was kind of

926
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: fan art before You're right, I suppose.

927
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: I mean this is like pre Dvien art, I guess.

928
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: Oh.

929
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: And now I'm picking up this nail polish, which is Marvel.

930
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what.

931
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: What you gave me a Marvel nail polish?

932
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: I did.

933
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: It's a plan to talk about the comic books.

934
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all.

935
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: This is perfect, This is so wild. What why did

936
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: you give me comic book nail polish? Oh it's for Miniso,

937
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: which I love. I love a trip to Miniso.

938
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

939
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: Well, I was at Miniso because the Minisa just opened

940
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: up around where I live and I love Obviously, I

941
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: love nail polish and I want to spread it. I

942
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 4: want to spread the joy of nail polish throughout the world.

943
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm gonna give it.

944
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: Of course, I go to buy.

945
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 2: I bought one for me, and I bought one for you.

946
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic. This is wonderful. I haven't worn nail polish

947
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: in years. Maybe it's the time I get back into it.

948
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

949
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: I mean with a Marvel I've become part of the

950
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 3: Marvel universe, Marvel nail verse. This is incredible, Okay. I

951
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: mean it literally has nothing to do with Marvel outside

952
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: of saying Marvel.

953
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just black nail polish with a stickers stuck

954
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: to it.

955
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: That's it, and that's marketing.

956
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: You know that's marketing for you. Oh my god, this

957
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: package really does come together in a strange way because

958
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: then there's a mockingbird pin, which kind of ties in

959
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: with the young adult fiction. It's true, yes, yes, but

960
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: was there any any real reason you put it in

961
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: the bank?

962
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: You know what? I thought?

963
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: I think this would be a nice pairing with the book.

964
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: It's an excellent ary, like you know, like a wine

965
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 4: and cheese. I was like, well, you know, you got

966
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: to have the novel, you know, they go hand in hand.

967
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: And this is I would say, this is the little

968
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: bit of breeed that goes along with this beautiful bottle

969
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 3: of wine that is Model.

970
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 2: Land, Yes, perfectly aged.

971
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: Do you read anything you would actually like?

972
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: No? No, I do.

973
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 3: I do.

974
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: I'm a big reader. I love to read. I read

975
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 4: all the time, Uh, specifically fiction. Right, I'm trying to

976
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 4: read more nonfiction, but I just like don't know what's

977
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 4: good nonfiction. The only nonfiction I'll read is like memoirs

978
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: from like yeah, like but like from like fran Dresser.

979
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: Like I'll read a fran Dresser memoir.

980
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: Right, but it's probably entertaining and enlightening in some way.

981
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: Cancer Schmanscher very good.

982
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: That's right, that's the name of it.

983
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: Very good.

984
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: I mean, bless fran Dresser. She's an I mean truly,

985
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 3: and I'm sure her life story is fascinating. Oh yes,

986
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 3: oh yes, Oscar, it's time to play a game. Do

987
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: you want to play a game called Gift Master or

988
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 3: a game called gift or a curse?

989
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh geez.

990
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it is once we begin playing.

991
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: Let's do Gift Master. Okay, I need a number between

992
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: one and ten eight. Okay, I have to do some

993
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: light calculating while I do this. Don't laugh at that.

994
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: I have to do the calculating. I have to calculate

995
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: the game pieces. So, and this is going to only

996
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: be in your benefit, Oscar, because now you could promote something,

997
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: you can recommend something, you can reach out to a

998
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: lost loved one, do whatever you want. I'll be right back.

999
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Great, awesome.

1000
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 4: So I mean, hey, listen, there's many ways in which

1001
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: you can contact me if you want to. You know,

1002
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at Osimo Ozzymo. Also,

1003
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: you can follow me in the many podcasts that I

1004
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: Hi host too many podcasts, Bridger, namely, I host a

1005
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 4: LATINX comedy podcast called Spanish Aki Presents and you can

1006
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: follow me at Spanish Aqui Presents on Instagram. Also, I

1007
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: host a Disney podcast where we watch every single Disney

1008
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: animated movie in chronological order. We did that, now we're

1009
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 4: doing every d com so you can follow us at

1010
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: Inside the Disney Vaults on Instagram. I also host a

1011
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 4: music video podcast with my good friend Monogappion called Podcast

1012
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 4: Killed the Video Star, and you can follow that account

1013
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 4: at podcast Killed the Video Star on Instagram.

1014
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Oscar, I'm almost done here.

1015
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: You're not done yet. Okay, fine.

1016
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm an air Sun, Gemini Rising, Sagittarius Moon.

1017
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: It's a tricky combination. I have to say.

1018
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: I'm not easy, not easy, but I'm fun. I'm a

1019
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 4: very fun time.

1020
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: So okay, you're in luck. I have figured out all

1021
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 3: of the game pieces as far as I can tell.

1022
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: I mean, knock on wood? Is that what you say?

1023
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 3: You're in this situation? It's hard to say, is it.

1024
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 3: It's certainly not. Okay, this is how the game works.

1025
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: And Listener, I'm just going to promote you know, you

1026
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: can buy a home version of this now. Listener wrote

1027
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: in and said that I had an opportunity on a

1028
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: past podcast to promote this, and I do a very

1029
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: bad job of it. So I'm going to say, now,

1030
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: go get Gift Master the game. It's very fun. This

1031
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: is how it works, Oscar. I'm gonna name three potential

1032
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: gifts things you can give away, and I'm gonna name

1033
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: three people, famous people. Okay, and you're gonna tell me

1034
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 3: which of those people you're gonna give which gift and why?

1035
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, and there's no there's there's no return policy.

1036
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 2: I did not give them a gift receipt.

1037
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 3: There is no gift receipt. They have to appreciate this, okay,

1038
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 3: kind of weave it into their daily life, okay, Okay.

1039
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 3: Number one the first gift a villa on Lake Como.

1040
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: Now that's a nice gift.

1041
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: So I have money in this, Yeah.

1042
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: You've got money of core. You have just for some reason,

1043
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: happened to have one of them flying around.

1044
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: I inherited one, of course.

1045
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: Yes. Second up is the SIMS two. So that's a

1046
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: copy of the popular PC video game, the SIMS two,

1047
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: not SIMS one, not SIMS three or four, not an

1048
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: expansion pack. We're talking about the Sims too. Yeah, right,

1049
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: Number three is a dish rag. So that's, you know,

1050
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: more of a humble gift, okay, And you're going to

1051
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: be giving these two the following people. Number one is

1052
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: a musician, rapper singer, Azelia Banks.

1053
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, okay, she's a character. I'm just gonna

1054
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 5: say it's a character. Second up, daughter of Bruce Rumor Willis,

1055
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 5: so Rumor. I couldn't quite tell you what Rumor does,

1056
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 5: but I'm aware of her presence.

1057
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: She's at her coture. She was in the House Bunny

1058
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: with Anna Faris. She also a contestant on the Mass Singer.

1059
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: She was the line. She did very well. She should

1060
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: have been in the top three and was was not,

1061
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: and I was very upset about it.

1062
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: But yes I didn't he realized. I was speaking to

1063
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 3: Rumor Willis's representatives. I've got Rumor's manager on the line.

1064
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: She's a very dif ferriend.

1065
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: And finally this is uh, I'm trying to find it here. Oh,

1066
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: we've got Fergie okay for herself, Fergie, ferg there are

1067
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: the people that you've got to give these gifts to,

1068
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: and what will you do?

1069
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: Okay, this seems to be a no brainer for me.

1070
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 4: I would I would immediately give the villa to my

1071
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: very good close friend Rumor Willis Rumor. If you're listening,

1072
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: right back to my text. I've been texting you forever

1073
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 4: you have, he run back. I would give a copy

1074
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 4: of SIMS to to probably Azalea Banks. Okay, she'd probably

1075
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: appreciated and on some kitchy level, right yes, uh, And

1076
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 4: you know, the dish rag would probably go to fath

1077
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: Fergie only because she sweats a lot when she performed.

1078
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: She does a lot of you've seen the clip on

1079
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 4: Good Morning America when she did the she did the

1080
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 4: cartwheel as she was singing that note. But she sweats

1081
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: a lot, you know, So I'm gonna give her that

1082
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 4: because she probably needs it, you know.

1083
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: I know. I want to say something here. I don't

1084
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: think I've ever pronounced Azalea Banks's name until now, and

1085
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: I think I've pronounced it incorrectly.

1086
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: What did you say?

1087
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: In my mind have been saying Azalea?

1088
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1089
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 4: Is it because the flowers named Azelia? I assume is

1090
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: the flower pronounced Azelia? Probably not. I'm not the person

1091
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 4: to ask.

1092
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm certainly these are two areas that I'm well, actually,

1093
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 3: I actually do like a lot of Azalea's music. Yes,

1094
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: her public personas side, I mean, she's what I call

1095
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: a problematic fave.

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Speaker 4: I also really love Azalea's music a lot, but you know,

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Speaker 4: she's got some dents.

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Speaker 3: You know. Also, she kind of called out Grimes and

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Speaker 3: Elon Musk for their whatever is happening in their house.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I will say there's a similarity between Tyra and Azalea Banks,

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Speaker 4: and that is that they both.

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Speaker 2: Love to swing. Swing big, swing big.

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Speaker 4: I mean Azalea would probably literally swing fists at you,

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Speaker 4: but she also swings.

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Speaker 3: She really honored for Azalea to just absolutely break my nose.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, Universe do with that information, what

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Speaker 3: you need to do. Bring her to me, let her

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Speaker 3: just crush my to me. Oh, we're getting word from Annalise.

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Speaker 3: Our producer looked it up. It's Azaileah, So I think

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Speaker 3: you were right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, Now Annalise is the flower pronounced Azalia as

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Speaker 4: well or Azalea.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, that's what we need to know, and that

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Speaker 3: may be what she was referring to here. I feel

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00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: like we're talking to o Ouiji board right because Analie

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Speaker 3: is not currently president on the Zoom listener.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like we're we're conjured. Yeah, we

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00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: are coming her spirit. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll await word. Uh In the meantime, Oscar,

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Speaker 3: this part of the podcast is called I said no emails.

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail

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Speaker 3: dot com. Every one of them just kind of assumes

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Speaker 3: that I'm willing to give advice on gifts this kind

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Speaker 3: of thing. And so look, I'm merciful. I try to

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Speaker 3: do what I can do, and uh so I answer

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Speaker 3: questions despite.

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Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing about you, Bridger. Is that your mercy?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? I tell everyone that my great mercy. Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 2: my merciful friend, Bridger.

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00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: I put that on my resume. That's your skills for sure. Okay,

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Speaker 3: would you help me answer a question here?

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00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

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00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: Okay, this says and I hate to say this, Oscar.

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00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: Usually the person will say Bridger and guest Bridger and

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00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: adjective guests. This person's just saying Bridger. But that doesn't

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01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: mean you're we're going to leave you out of this.

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01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: Let's say it's totally fine. I'm not even here.

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01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: It is Bridger loving the pod. I'm subscribed, rated and reviewed,

1140
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 3: smiley face emoji times three. So we're getting a lot

1141
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: of you know, look, I'm not going to say anything

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: nasty about that.

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01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: They're very nice. Honestly, they're hoping that you're going to

1144
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: be nice about the response.

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01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: Right, and so I'm going to be. I'm you know,

1146
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 3: they I'm not going to They don't have to be.

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01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: Oscar's going Yeah, Oscar is completely free to do whatever

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01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 3: he wants. This says, I have to take my son

1149
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: he is six, to get a gift for his father,

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: my ex because I am the bigger person when it

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01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: comes to this stuff. Okay, he will, Well, I listen

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01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 3: to this any gift suggestions, keep in mind this this

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: is never reciprocated. Thanks, and that's from Asia.

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Speaker 2: Oh first of all, that's rude. He doesn't give you gifts.

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Speaker 3: This X sounds like maybe not a great I mean,

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01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: it sounds like there's a reason he's no longer part

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Speaker 3: of the equation.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, one hundred percent. But I positive question though,

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01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: what she's giving. She's trying to buy a gift for

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Speaker 4: her son to give the dad. So the gift isn't

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Speaker 4: from her technically, it's from the son, right right, So

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Speaker 4: what I would say is how about this year, not

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01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: only is your son giving him a present, but you're

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01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 4: giving him a present to send a very strong message

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Speaker 4: that you are indeed the bigger person's.

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Speaker 3: That's an incredible thing about gift giving is it immediately

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Speaker 3: puts you in the driver's position. You get to decide

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01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 3: what speed you're driving. And this year, why not go

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01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: one thousand miles an hour with a wonderful little gift

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01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 3: from son let's call him Trevor, and also from you

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 3: and suddenly X person, a boyfriend, husband, whoever he is.

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 3: Feels like a true dirt bag.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because the message that you're sending is I did

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 4: it first, You never bothered to do it, and listen.

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 4: It could your intentions could be very nice and pure

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01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 4: and be like, hey, I care about you, here's the gift,

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 4: but we all know the underlying message. You have the power,

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01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 4: right and no matter what happens, you will always have

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01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 4: the power.

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Speaker 3: You have the patent on this patent pending. I'm the

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01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: better gift giver. That said, what is the son? What

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01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: does a son give a father? I guess that what

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01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: does a six year old give a father? So the

1184
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: macaroni necklace? Is it a drawing. Is it a picture

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Speaker 3: of the son himself?

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01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you meant a picture of the son.

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01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: Like taking the.

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01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: Frame.

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01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 3: It an over exposed photo the sun. It's essentially just

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: kind of a white blur on cheap photo paper. I

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01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: mean that may be all this father's worth. That's been nice.

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 4: Listen, you're not for the son. You don't want to

1193
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 4: like overspend. This is definitely like a craft's project as

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01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: a gift. I think it's very I think that's the

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: way that you want to do it. You don't want

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01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: to get the dad like a nosehair tremmor, you know,

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01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 4: like say that.

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Speaker 3: For when you're the kids in college. That's you know,

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Speaker 3: later in life, dad gift.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't ever, don't give the dad a gift or

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: the ex a gift that he actually needs.

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Speaker 3: Right from the sun.

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Speaker 4: This is just a gift saying like I'm six years

1204
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 4: old and I'm thinking of.

1205
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: My dad, right or you know, craft project you get

1206
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: in son's ear and say why don't you draw a

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Speaker 3: picture of you and mommy having an incredible time? Ridger,

1208
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm just putting some thoughts out there. This is why

1209
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: people write in I'm an expert. I've got to make

1210
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: my paycheck.

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Speaker 4: Make sure that both of us are smiling really big.

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01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: Why don't you draw another man next to mommy, Draw

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Speaker 4: another man next.

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Speaker 3: To mommy, incredible head of hair, this kind of thing.

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01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: I think that that's the way to go. I think

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: you know, Oscar, gave you just right up off the

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Speaker 3: top that incredible advice of you also giving a nice

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01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: gift that you know should be a good gift that

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: looks great but doesn't necessarily make the excess life any

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01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 3: easier exactly.

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we don't want to make it easier for

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01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: the ex at all.

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: Like you said, you are the bigger person, but like

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: if you want to be the big gift person, if

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Speaker 4: you give a gift.

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Speaker 3: Right answered, sealed, delivered. I don't know that that makes

1227
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: any sense that I'm saying that out loud right now,

1228
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: But that's fine. We're done answering questions, Oscar. I thought

1229
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: that we did such an excellent job that I don't care. Yeah,

1230
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: I think we did a great job, Oscar. I've had

1231
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 3: a wonderful time with you. I've had such a good time,

1232
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: and now I've got four gifts. I've got a four

1233
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: and also a five hundred page novel that I can

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: just dive into. I will say on Alys has now

1235
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: circled back with some information. Took me a sec, but

1236
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: it seems both Miss Banks and the Flower share of

1237
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 3: pronunciation based on Google dot com and an interview introduction

1238
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: from the Breakfast Club. So there's your answer.

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01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Wigi board and we were really

1240
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 4: racing and the Wiji board.

1241
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Speaker 2: That was a lot of information.

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01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: Oscar, thank you so much for being here, and thank

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01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: you for this wonderful give.

1244
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: Richard what a treat. Thank you so much for having me.

1245
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: This is so fun. I can't wait to hate you,

1246
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: you know, off the record in person.

1247
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 3: It's going to turn violent very very quick, very soon,

1248
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: and hopefully the listener will get to see that in

1249
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: the headlines. Exactly listener speaking of looking at the headlines

1250
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 3: and doing other things other than listening to this podcast.

1251
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: This podcast is now over. It's going to wrap up,

1252
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: and you're going to wait until next week until there's

1253
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 3: another episode. And in the meantime, take care of yourself,

1254
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: stay safe, where your seat belt, do whatever it is

1255
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: to survive until next Thursday. I love you. I'll talk

1256
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 3: to you soon. I said, no gifts is an exactly

1257
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend

1258
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: Analyse Nelson, and the theme song is by miracle worker

1259
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 3: Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at

1260
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: I said no gifts, that's where you're going to see

1261
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have

1262
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts,

1263
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why not leave

1264
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: a review while you're there. It's really the least you

1265
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 3: could do considering everything I do for you. And if

1266
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 3: you're in interested in advertising on the show, go to

1267
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 3: mideral dot com slash ads.

1268
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: When you're I guess to my home, you gotta come

1270
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guess, your presences

1271
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how

1272
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: do you dare to surbey me