1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: If you discover we're leaving, they'll go all out to 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: destroy us, so we must take every record. Now I've 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: designed this like a collapsing back. McDonald here has agreed 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: to man the wireless in order to get the Germans 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: something to listen to, and all the padres and the 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: medical staff are volunteer to stay behind as well. Now 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: the wounded who are too bad to move will replace 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the men firing, so our defense will see this before. 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: By the time the Germans find out what's happening, we 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: should all be safely across the river. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: Pleasant journey, Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: No Dunk's podcast on the Athletic Network. 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: It's Monday, November second. 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: I'm g. E. 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: Skeets and alongside me as always, Task Mellis. Hey everybody, 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Hey Tassie, we got the bearded one. Trey Kirby hel 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: he the international Man of Mystery taking it to the max. 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: Lee Ellis Friends, Lee, last but not Lea's making the 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: magic happen. 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: JD. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: Hello, there he is, and here we are. First things first, Lee, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: how did the vegetable medley go over on Halloween? 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: Very successful? Very successful? Yeah, the kids were knocking out 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 4: the lining out that were twenty five deep. Give me 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: some of that Karen and Hummus that was screaming. It 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 4: was an overwhelming success. I'm very very happy no one 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 4: inched the house Instead, Everyone's like, gee, the ellis Is 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: are really the coolest house in the neighborhood. 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: Excellent, excellent, Yes, obviously talking about our squad Halloween episode, 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: we had a lot of fun recording that on Friday. 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: If you haven't listened to that one, go back and 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: give it a listen. As we drafted our Halloween candies 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: and songs and movies and yes, spoiler, Lee took the 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: vegetable melody slash Medley incredible, incredible stuf. All right, quick 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: shout out to the stream team, thanks for joining us 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: here live on YouTube on a Monday. Our No Dunk 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: schedule starting to take shape here. We're planning on hitting 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: the beach to answer your questions tomorrow, Yes, Tuesday, Election Day. 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: We figured, hey, perfect time to give you what ninety 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: minutes those usually run while you're waiting in line to 41 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: vote somebody if you haven't already voted, So we'll hit 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: you with the beach step in podcast tomorrow and Tuesday, 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: get your questions in No Dunks at the Athletic dot 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: Com or tweet them in at No Dunks Inc. Also 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: got a couple guests still in the works that we're 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: trying to lock down, so hopefully they drop a little 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: bit later in the week. But today's show, guys, it's 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: not an updown report, it's not in is this news. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: This is just a straight classic. It's just a news dump. 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: We're taking a big old dump after all that humpus 51 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: we ate, so we have gone I don't know, ten 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: thousand leaked jerseys to critique a little bit later, and 53 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: negotiations are still in swing here, full swing to trying 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: to figure out when next season starts. We'll get into that, 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: but let's start with some juicy front office news we 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: haven't yet addressed here on the show, and that is 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: this news breaking last week that Daryl Moury is taking 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: over the Sixers basketball operations, not long after resigning from 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: a similar role with the Rocket. So everyone wants to 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: know what does this mean Moury coming in here, What 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: does it mean for Philly stars Joel Embiid and Ben 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: Simmons as well as the supporting pieces around him. You know, 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: will Maury be making big moves in Philly. And I 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: will add to this Lee we now know Elton Brand 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: he ain't going anywhere. He just signed a massive extension, 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: so he's gonna be the GM still. So you've got Maury, 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: you got Brand, you got new coach Doc Rivers. But 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: what do you think this means Maury specifically being in 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: charge for the big guns there in Philly? Will will 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: something happen? Because Mory likes to make his trades. 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: Oh, he's a big game hunt at Darryl Moury. He's 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 4: not going there just to sit around and let this 73 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: thing play out for a season or two. I think 74 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: he wants to make a splash from the start. Now. 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna trade embiid Oh Simmons this season. 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: I don't think he would go in there and just say, Rod, 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna break up these two. But I do 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: think obviously the biggest move he wants to make is 79 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: to find a taker for that Al Horford contract. I 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: think that's the biggest one the Sixers want to try 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: to get out from underneath because Hawford simply just did 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: not fit with that team this season. And he's still 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: a good play He's still a very valuable player and 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: can be a contributor, but he's got a lot of 85 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: money tied up and that's going to be a little 86 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: bit difficult. The other big contract that's not m beat 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: or Simmons, of course, is Tobias Harris. I think Maury 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: would like to find a way to maybe get out 89 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: of that one a little bit soon. Now the Sixers, 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: another thing Maury likes to use is draft picks going forward, 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: so you know, try to sweeten the pip. Now, the 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: Sixers don't really have a lot of enticing assets there. 93 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: They've got one pick coming in, but another one a 94 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: first round of going out this season, and then there's 95 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: a few second rounders there, but of course those ones 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: don't usually get the big deals done. So I absolutely 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: think Maury is going to go there and try to 98 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: make a trade and try to put his name on 99 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: that team as soon as he can, because that's what 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: he does. He's not the sort of guy who sits 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: around and waits for things to happen. We've seen him 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: in the past. He traded to get James Harden, He 103 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: signed Dwight Howard when he he was a free agent. 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: He basically signed Chris Bosh away from Miami Heat and 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: then the Heat match that deal, and of course he's 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: taken in Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook in the last 107 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: few years. 108 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: Now. 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: Not all of these moves have worked out, but that's 110 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: the sort of thing that Darren Moory goes for. He 111 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: wants those guys who are ready to win, potentially in 112 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: championship mode as soon as they get there. And I 113 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: think he looks at that Six's roster and he thinks 114 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: they're not too far away. You know, everyone thinks they're 115 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: not too far away. But this Sixers team, you know, 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: with Embiid and Simmons, they're going to stick with that 117 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 4: for now in my belief. But around the fringes, he's 118 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 4: going to try to bring in another big name and 119 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: if someone can take one of those big contracts, then 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: he will. Now, if things don't work out again for 121 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 4: the Sixers this season, I absolutely believe he's going to 122 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 4: move on from one of Simmons or mb at the 123 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: end of this season. That's my belief. But he won't 124 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: do that straight away. So yeah, this is an interesting 125 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: move there in Philadelphia because there's been so much up 126 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: people in their front office as well in recent years. 127 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 4: You go back to the Sam Hinkey era. Jerry Colangelo 128 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: came in, Brian Colangelo came in, he left in disaster. 129 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: Brett Brown kind of took over, Elton Brand then kind 130 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: of took over, and now Elton Brand you mentioned signed 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 4: an extension, but it's a little unclear exactly sort of 132 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: what power he has. He's the general manager. But if 133 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: I looking at what I see from the Sixers, Daryl 134 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: Morey is the one who's going to make those big 135 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: decisions in my belief, So. 136 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: In theory they'll work hand in hand, I guess, but 137 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: Maury would have the ultimate say yeah. 138 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: I believe that. Yes, So I think Brown has done 139 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: you know, he's done an okay job there, but it 140 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: sort of feels like he lost some of his power. 141 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 4: But the Sixers also didn't want to throw him, you know, 142 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: fire him. So exciting, chaotic, crazy times there in Philadelphia. 143 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: I think, though, if you're a Sixers fan, you like 144 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 4: having Daryl Moray on board. 145 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: Tass What do you think, man, is Marey going to 146 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: do something big here? We saw what he did when 147 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: he first came to Houston, right, He kept mcgreedy, he 148 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: kept YAO, and then he tried to change the pieces 149 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: around him, and Kevin Pelton reminded me most notably, I 150 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: guess he traded the number eight pick right of the 151 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and six draft, which ended up being Rudy 152 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: Gay for Sean Battier. And there are rumors that he 153 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: might come and join them in the front office if 154 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: they can try him away from it. 155 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 5: He I thought you were going to say, Shane Baddy 156 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: is coming out of joining the boys on the floor. 157 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: He's a little shooting that analytics man, Shane Batty. They're 158 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: trying maybe try and get him from the heat. But yeah, 159 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: what do you think will he do something similar? Like 160 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: li Is saying that he did when he first got 161 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: in Houston said, Okay, well these are our guys, let's 162 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: see what we can do around them, and like Lee saying, 163 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: a lot easier said than done. I think moving Tobias 164 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: Harris and Al Horford that makes sense. But Ken Moury, 165 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: is he that crafty task What do you think. 166 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 5: He's a crafty man. He's a crafty man. I think 167 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: he's going to have to attach an asset to somebody 168 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 5: like Al Horford and Josh Richardson could be the guy 169 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: who goes. Josh Richardson isn't a Darryl Moury type guy 170 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 5: to surround Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid with. He's not 171 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: a great three point shooter, although he's a really good defender, 172 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 5: but he's on a very good contract. So I could 173 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 5: see Maury attaching him to an al Horford to get 174 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 5: him out of there. I think al Horford would be 175 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 5: the guy to look at that they're going to get 176 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 5: out of there. Because Tobias Harris could be a three 177 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 5: point shooter, he likes to get them up. You see 178 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 5: double digit three point shots from him from time to time, 179 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: they just don't go in. So I think they hope 180 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 5: that Doc Rivers, who coached him in Los Angeles, can 181 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: get to him and can help him reach that borderline 182 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 5: all star level again around Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid 183 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: who are going to be on the roster. Because Darryl 184 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: Moray likes trading for superstars, that's his goal. He even 185 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 5: tried to get Jimmy Butler last season when Philadelphia got 186 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: rid of him. He's not a three point shooter, so 187 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: to think Darryl Morriy's coming in, he's just going to 188 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: get three point ters, no way. But when you look 189 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: at Simmons and Embiid, if you're going to keep those 190 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: guys on the same team and try and get Doc 191 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 5: to get the most out of Joel Embiid, you definitely 192 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: have to surround them with shooters. So I think that's 193 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 5: going to be Morey's number one job. And Moore is 194 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 5: definitely going to be the decision maker. They didn't bring 195 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 5: him in to work side by side with Elton Brand. 196 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: Elton Brand hasn't made the best of moves. He is 197 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: going to be the communicator, I'm sure with a lot 198 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: of agents and players you have now that player side 199 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: with Elton Brand. But Darryl Mory's going to be the 200 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 5: executive Thatlton Brand reports to, and hopefully for the Sixers, 201 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 5: it's going to be a lot clearer. The thing when 202 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 5: you call another team, you want to know who you're 203 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 5: talking to, and you want to know who the decision 204 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 5: maker is. And apparently Elton Brand was getting a lot 205 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: of help from Alex Rucker and other guys. According to 206 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 5: Derek Bonder of The Athletic, there was just way too 207 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: many voices in there, and so Moury should be the 208 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: guy who tries to acquire stars, and that's that's the 209 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 5: main goal, get some stars in there. The more stars 210 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: the better. I think that's what what Darryl Mory's looking for. 211 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 5: And you've got to and you've got Doc Rivers and 212 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: I think people people think, why why would they get 213 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: a coach before their front office decision maker. Well, I 214 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 5: think him and Doc should work well together. They do 215 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 5: have a history in the past. They were in Boston's 216 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 5: organization once upon a time. At the same time, they 217 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: like each other. I don't think they would have brought 218 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 5: in Darryl Moury if they didn't think he could work 219 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: with Doc. And here we go. I think I think 220 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 5: it's Horford. And if I'm another roster and I'm thinking, oh, 221 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 5: Horford would be nice on the team, I'm gonna need 222 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 5: something else And I think Josh Richardson might be the 223 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: guy to make that happen. 224 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: Trey, what do you think? I mean? Tas is right. 225 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: We've seen Morey want to get stars. The problem is 226 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: he usually gets to two and you can't find the 227 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: third one. Well, he's got two Simmons in ebid. Is 228 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: there a move here that you could see to try 229 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: and grab a third one or does he care about 230 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: three pointers? 231 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: Mo and move. 232 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 6: Well, we just saw a team win the NBA Championship 233 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 6: with only two stars in today's league, maybe that's all 234 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 6: you need. You don't got to go star hunting when 235 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 6: you've got two All Stars on your team. So yeah, 236 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: they're gonna tinker around the edges with Embiid and Simmons 237 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: staying there. I think it's kind of lost on a 238 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 6: lot of people with the analytics movement that the number 239 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 6: one best shot in analytics is a dunk. You got 240 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 6: two guys who can score inside quite a bit. That's 241 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 6: a good place to start with Simmons in a beid. Now, 242 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 6: you just got to figure out the pieces, and that's 243 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 6: a place where Darryl Moury has He sort of thrived 244 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 6: a little bit finding guys that have been cast off. 245 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 6: But that was also bringing him in to a Mike 246 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 6: D'Antoni system where he just says, hey, man, I don't 247 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 6: care what you do. If you're open, shoot a three. 248 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 6: If you're not open, still shoot a three. There are 249 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 6: ways to get those sort of performances out of lesser 250 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 6: known players, but you have to have a coach who's 251 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 6: willing to live with the mistakes. Is Doc River is 252 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 6: going to be as willing to live with the mistakes 253 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 6: as Mike D'Antoni. I don't know if that's necessarily the case, 254 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 6: but I think we're going to see a pretty similar 255 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 6: Sixers team coming back. I'm sure they would like to 256 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 6: trade Horford and Harris, but there's a reason they're tough 257 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 6: to trade. They got humongous deals and they're underperforming them. 258 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: I think a key would be telling Tobias Harris just 259 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: shoot threes. None of this pump fake and take an 260 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 6: eighteen footer. A third of the sixer shots came from 261 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 6: the mid range, and that's just not going to be 262 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 6: the case. When they're playing underneath a Darryl Mourray system, 263 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 6: the threes are going to be more important. And maybe 264 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 6: it just comes from telling the players there, you're wasting 265 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 6: your time taking long twos. Shoot the three. It's all 266 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 6: tough learning process. We saw it with Mellow right where 267 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 6: he would catch the ball, he would pump ake, and 268 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 6: he would end up taking it too, and would be 269 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 6: a huge laugh on Sports Center because the Rockets actually 270 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 6: let somebody take it too. 271 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: That's gonna change. There are ways to change. 272 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 6: This and Daryl Morey has always said, if you've got 273 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 6: a five percent chance, you need to go all in 274 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 6: for it. You've got two stars in their prime right 275 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: now and Embiid in Simmons. You need to figure out 276 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 6: innovative ways to build around them because they're both sort 277 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 6: of unusual players. Embiad is a throwback to the nineties. 278 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 6: Simmons is a guy that we haven't really seen before 279 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 6: who doesn't want to take threes, can get to the rim, 280 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 6: but does generate threes for other people. 281 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: There is a lot of talent. 282 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: In Philadelphia, it's just odd fits. But I would rather 283 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 6: see Simmons and Embiid both stick around. That's a great nucleus. 284 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 6: Just figure out a way to fit people around it. 285 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 6: It looked okay when Jimmy Butler was there, it looked, 286 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 6: you know, they were a shot away from advancing to 287 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 6: a conference finals, and we're talking about this team totally different. 288 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 6: I think you can continue to build around these guys 289 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 6: and have success. 290 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I'm glad you brought up like that 291 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: five percent chance to win a title. Like in the East, 292 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: it's wide open still. I mean, yeah, the Heat are great. 293 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Who knows who they have coming back. Obviously the Raptors 294 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: you know in Theery Spiegel team, still the Bucks, you know, 295 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: the Sixers, in the mix of Celtics. But like it 296 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: is open, I mean, there is an open path. I 297 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: mean if everything clicks for you to at least go 298 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: to the finals and maybe win the thing. Saw Bobby Marx, 299 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: he broke down the books. 300 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 5: Though. 301 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: Simmons rookie max extension is about to kick in here, 302 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: so they're going in to this offseason with a payroll 303 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: of one hundred and fifty one million dollars and one 304 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two million of that are going to 305 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: four guys, Simmons in EMBID and then Harrison Horford. Wow, 306 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: that's already way over the luxury tax threshold, meaning a 307 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: massive penalty. And that's before free agency begins. So maybe 308 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: the Sixers ownership is also just leaning all into this. 309 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: They see Maury they locked up Ran for the extension. 310 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: They see Doc they go get him and they say, hey, 311 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: let's just throw a ton of money at this and 312 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: see what we can do. And I will say, you 313 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: said the picks there lead Yeah, not the sexiest looking 314 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: picks they have this year. For the November eighteenth draft, 315 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: they got number twenty one, and then they have thirty four, 316 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: thirty six, forty nine, and fifty eight. But Maury has 317 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: uncovered some gems before in the draft pretty late. Chandler 318 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: Parsons was deep in the second round way back in 319 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: twenty eleven, Clint Capello was number twenty five. In fourteen, 320 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: Montrez Harral even a second round pick, and earlier early 321 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: issues second round pick in two on fifteen. So maybe 322 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: they find something, may find one of the gems, or 323 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 3: like you said, maybe they trade all those Who knows, 324 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: because Morey likes to make some moves. I think he 325 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: averaged six trades per season on average when he was 326 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: with Houston for thirteen years. That's a lot of trades. 327 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: He's just a fantasy basketball player who's got a really 328 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: really good job, you know. Yeah, one of those guys 329 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: he's always looking to just keep something moving. 330 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 5: You know. 331 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: It's great. 332 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: It must be so annoying for the other gms because 333 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: those people in your fantasy basketball league, and I was 334 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: one of them, were the most annoying people. Ye keep Brody, Hey, Brody, 335 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: you want to trade me? LOI vot? You want to 336 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: trade me? LOI vot? 337 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: Brody? 338 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: No, No, interest. Okay, you just leave me alone to 339 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: the point you just keep bothering them, and then they 340 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: eventually just tried the guys who will shut the hell up? 341 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: All right? Anything to add to this, and it sounds 342 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: like we're all pretty excited. I don't know why you 343 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't be. Yeah, you got a big name in Maury, 344 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: the big team in Philadelphia. That's a weird team as 345 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: it is, and can they figure it out? It's exciting 346 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: I think for the league in general. And you know, 347 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: Maury had a quick break with his family after so 348 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna take some time off. Spending with the family. 349 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks was good enough, and now he's 350 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: back at it. But anything else to add, guys, for me, 351 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: this man is gonna be busy. 352 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 6: Like you're saying, people are excited about a coach and 353 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 6: a GM, that's really not an exciting thing. You know, 354 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 6: you gotta have a little bit of faith if you're 355 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 6: a Sixers fan that your super team that happens to 356 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 6: be in the front office is gonna be what pays off. 357 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 6: But you gotta do so many moves because, like you're saying, 358 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 6: skeets having so much tied up in Harris and in 359 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 6: Horford means that if you trade one of them, you're 360 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 6: obviously getting money back because that's how trades work. But 361 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 6: number two, if you only trade one of them, you're 362 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 6: still gonna be over the cap, and you just traded 363 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 6: a good player like Harris and Horford are still decent players. Yeah, 364 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 6: you're likely trading him for worse players who maybe fit 365 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 6: your team a little bit better, but you're gonna take 366 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 6: a little bit of a hit from a from a 367 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 6: talent standpoint while still being over the cap. It's a 368 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 6: tough tough spot for Daryl Morey to be in. He 369 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 6: kind of worked him with his way to having zero 370 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 6: flexibility by the time he left Houston. Now he's going 371 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 6: to a place where in Philadelphia where he still has 372 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: zero flexibility. And we're not sure if the piece is 373 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 6: fit exactly right, but it feels like the end of 374 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 6: the era in Houston continues in era in Philadelphia, which 375 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 6: is the exciting thing. They had a little bit of 376 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 6: a wayward dalliance with Colangelo and Elton Brand there, and 377 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 6: Lee said Elton Brand has done a good job. I 378 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 6: one hundred percent disagree. I think he completely botched the process. 379 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: So good thing. They got somebody in there who can 380 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: make a good decision. 381 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: I will say though, I think when he got out Harford, 382 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: and I'll say it, I thought it was a good move. 383 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: I thought it was the right move. It didn't work out, 384 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: but I thought he got a good piece in there 385 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 4: to space the floor, spread the floor and experienced guy. 386 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: Now we look at it in twenty twenty hindsights, so 387 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: it didn't work. But I think at the time about 388 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: you know, eighteen months ago, whenever it was signed, I 389 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: thought that was the right move. And Elton brand was 390 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: largely made that move, and they brought it, you know. 391 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: I mean again, they obviously lost Jimmy Butler, but Josh 392 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: Richardson's another good piece on theory on paper to fit 393 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 4: that team. So not all moves turn out great, but 394 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: at the time going into them, I mean I thought, 395 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: I thought the Sixers and I think a lot of 396 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: people thought this is going to be much better last 397 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: season than they were. So I'll say that, I think 398 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: I think Oldon Brown has done a better job than 399 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: he's been given credit for. 400 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: Right now, Wow, he's going about for I think that's 401 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: because he's a loyal guy. You must have loved Elton Brown. 402 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: He played. 403 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 4: He was a good fantasy player. 404 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: He was a good fantasy player. Yeah, he never hurt you. 405 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: You got a lot of blocks too for a sort 406 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 4: of undersized big man. 407 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: That's true, it's true, a pretty good. 408 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: They're taking Elton brand world mid Raine shots and they're saying, hey, 409 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: let's pull it out. Let's bring in Daryl Mourray to 410 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 5: to Starry mardern aizing the game a little bit. Elton, 411 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 5: we don't want your mid rangers anymore. Let's shoot some threes, 412 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 5: my man. And that's what's going to happen. That's gonna 413 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 5: happen a little bit. But he's also handcuffed because the 414 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 5: offseason is so short, so there's not gonna be a 415 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 5: lot of moves that are going to be made. There 416 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 5: is going to be less time to chat with other 417 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 5: general managers. So I think we're gonna see some Furk 418 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 5: and Korkman's out there fire, and we're gonna see some 419 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 5: Mike Scott out there fire. In a way, just surround 420 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: them with the shooters as much as possible. 421 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: Ben Simmons is still injured too. Let's not forget that, right, 422 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't even know when the season's even starting, 423 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 3: but will he even be there at the start of 424 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: the season. And then also, oh, what type of shape 425 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 3: is dwell embiidd you know after I'm sure we've been 426 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: working out hard all the time. Yeah, probably probably the 427 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: best shape of the top shape. Yeah, all right, well 428 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: let's keep it moving here again, lots of news to address, 429 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: talk about the team that Morey just left, the Rockets. 430 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: In other front office news this past week, Steven Silas 431 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: was named the rockets fourteenth head coach in franchise history. Now, 432 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: Silas spent the previous two seasons as an assistant coach 433 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: on Rick Carlisle staff in Dallas, and he helped the 434 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: MAVs to I guess it was technically the best offensive 435 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: rating in NBA history, so he had some impact on that. 436 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: And he has just been an assistant coach for ever, 437 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: I think nineteen years officially as an assistant coach, a 438 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 3: couple of years more in the scouting So like, this 439 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: guy's got two plus decades and he's the son of 440 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: Paul Silas, so he's been around the league forever. He's 441 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: put in his time here. But Tas, were you surprised 442 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: by this hire for the Rockets going with Steven Silas. 443 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm not in an inside circles NBA person, 444 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: and none of us are, So this wasn't really out 445 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 5: there as far as sort of the general public goes. Obviously, 446 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 5: the Rockets were doing their due diligence and they're interviewing 447 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: Jeff bang Gundy and their own guy, John Lucas, but 448 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 5: this wasn't out there. And Steven Silas is sort of 449 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: one of the I guess, one of those younger guys 450 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: who have, you know, kind of under that Nick Nurse 451 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 5: sort of idea that hey, maybe a guy who's been 452 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 5: around for a long time as an assistant coach or 453 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 5: coached elsewhere, has been on benches can help us out 454 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 5: assistant or scout for twenty years. And I think he's 455 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 5: sort of in that mold. He's only forty seven years old, 456 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: a lot younger than the other candidates that were out there, 457 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 5: and I think most importantly on this Rockets team, because 458 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: you want to talk about the Sixers being handcuffed, the 459 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: Rockets are definitely in that boat where they've got two 460 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 5: guys making a huge chunk of their salary cap and 461 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 5: Harden and Westbrooker got to build an offense around that. 462 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 5: What's important I think is Steven Salas also has a 463 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: bachelor's in sociology and management. I think it's just going 464 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: to be about trying to convince James Harden, hey, we 465 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 5: can do other things, my man, maybe a little off 466 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 5: the ball. Russ Let's work a little bit off the ball. 467 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it's really a lot about that locker room. 468 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 5: And I think they believe that Steven Sallas, who's worked 469 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 5: with Luka Doncic last year, has worked with a lot 470 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: of stars and Steph and others. I think he's his 471 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 5: number one obligation. Really it's design and offense and convince 472 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 5: those guys to be willing to try and change a 473 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 5: little bit, to do some other things, to get others involved, 474 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,239 Speaker 5: and to not just be a James Harden one on 475 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 5: five type deal. But they're still going to be good. 476 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 5: And Steven Silas's congratulations to him. The guy has earned it. 477 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: Imagine twenty years working benches and working benches. This has 478 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: nothing to do with his dad, you know, being a 479 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: lifer in the NBA and being a coach just has 480 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: to do with his work ethic and so congrats to 481 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 5: Stephen Silas. 482 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 3: And by all it counts. This guy is like the 483 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 3: nicest guy in the NBA. Everything I read or hear 484 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: someone talk about Steven Salles like, guy's the nicest guy. 485 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: Guy's the nicest guy, nice guy I ever met. That's 486 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: a good thing when everybody is saying that that's a 487 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: that's awesome and it's cool to see him get this job. 488 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: Are you surprised, Trey by this hire? 489 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm surprised by it, but a little bit not 490 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 6: because when you're comparing Steven Silas to Jeff Van Gundhi 491 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 6: and John Lucas, you know which one's going to be 492 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 6: the cheapest. So it's not a huge surprise that rookie 493 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 6: head coach would be the choice for the Rockets. But 494 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 6: I do think it is a surprise that you have 495 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 6: a team with Marden and Westbrook, a team that has 496 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 6: had success, not the ultimate success. They fall in short 497 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 6: time and time again, as we all know, it's pretty 498 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 6: unusual to go with the first time head coach when 499 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: you're theoretically trying to win a championship, When you're trying 500 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: to be a title contender, do you bring in a 501 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 6: guy who has never been the head coach for a 502 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 6: team to hold James Harden accountable. It wasn't He wasn't 503 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 6: able to really be held accountable to do something off 504 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: the ball when he had a Coach of the Year 505 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 6: on the sideline. So will he now want to be 506 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 6: an off the ball mover for Steven Silas, I'm pretty doubtful. 507 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 6: Luka Donc just didn't do a whole lot of moving 508 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 6: for the Dallas Mavericks. This to me is a pure 509 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: money higher. Yeah, the Rockets are going to still be 510 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 6: trying to win a championship. They're still going to be 511 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 6: a team that's competing for the postseason. Tanking is bad 512 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: for business. About the only way you could lose more 513 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: money is to go into a full tank right now, 514 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 6: So no way Tillman Furtita wants to do that. But 515 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 6: Steven Silas, to me, makes more sense as a coach 516 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 6: for the future, as a coach who is rebuilding with 517 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: a young team. So maybe we will see the Rockets 518 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: go down that path and then not too distant future. 519 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little worried that no one's gonna give 520 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: a damn about the Rockets when we play next season. 521 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is because Mari being gone 522 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: and Tony being gone, who knows, like Trey says, is 523 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: one of those big guys moved. Can you move a Westbrook? 524 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: You probably definitely could move a Harden. There'd be a 525 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: lot of interest in him. But I just have a 526 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 3: weird feeling like because with the Rockets, yeah, they still 527 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 3: might be good, but no one, and I mean no 528 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: one's gonna be like, oh yeah, they could win the title. 529 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: No one's gonna say that until they ever prove it. 530 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: With this, you know that Core as hardened as your 531 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: main guy to go deep into the playoff run again, 532 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 3: no one's gonna care. No one will, no matter what 533 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: they're doing in in the regular season. So I have 534 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: this just a strange feeling that the Rockets are just 535 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: gonna be there, Lee, and they're just gonna be like again, 536 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm very happy for Stevens, and I hope he proves 537 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: me wrong, Like that'd be awesome if he's like suddenly 538 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 3: this nick nurse, like tast said, like crazy innovator and 539 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: he's got hard in doing other things, that would be amazing. 540 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: I'm doubtful, but I just think the Rockets are just 541 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 3: gonna be a like there's a team that's good, but 542 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: not great, and they're just going to be there. But 543 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: what do you think? 544 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: Well, I wish him all the best because it is 545 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 4: a very challenging situation for a first time coach to 546 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: go into, because that's the thing, these two guys. It's 547 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 4: hard to change anybody's playing style this far into their 548 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: career anyway, you know, So to sort of convince someone 549 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 4: when you're in your first season to say, hey, play 550 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: this way or do something different, or let's do this now. 551 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 3: And they're good. I mean that's a crazy part. They 552 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: give did a lot of games right there, won fifty 553 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 3: sixty games playing the way they do Harden in Westbrook. 554 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: I mean, they are you know, you're right, I agree 555 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: with you to change them as difficult. 556 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: But then then we know what happens sort of come 557 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: playoff time. It's just the formula just doesn't really work. 558 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 4: So that's going to be the big challenge for how 559 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 4: Silas can sort of change things without changing them, if 560 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like Westbrook and Harden are 561 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 4: going to both want to get their shots and their 562 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: points and things like that, So can he somehow find 563 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: a way to bring out more out of the other 564 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: guys that Mike D'Antoni wasn't able to do. And exactly 565 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: how that Ross's even going to look is going to 566 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 4: be is something to look forward to as well. So 567 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: it's I agree with what you're saying, though there's kids 568 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 4: like I think the Rockets probably win forty five games 569 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: just if they don't have a coach. So you know, 570 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 4: what will Silas really be able to do to sort 571 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: of make his imprint that will be accepted by the 572 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: other two guys. If you say, someone in the chat 573 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 4: I saw before said, you know, tell Westbrook's coming off 574 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: the bench, I mean, why not? But good luck as well. 575 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 4: I just can't see Westbrook saying sure, I'll be happy 576 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: to do that. But that might be the sort of 577 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 4: thing where it's like, hey, I'm the coach, I want 578 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: to try this out and see if it works. You'll 579 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: end the games, but I just want you to come 580 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 4: off the bench and start again. I just don't see 581 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: Westbrook daying like, yeah, okay, nowhere it's I'm happy with that. 582 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 4: So he's in a very very tough spot. If he 583 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: can somehow, you know, make the Rockets a very very 584 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: good team and you know, perhaps convince a few people 585 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 4: that something could be different than great. But it's just 586 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 4: we just sort of know the story too much of 587 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: this Rockets team come playoff time that they just don't 588 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 4: seem to be able to get over the line. And 589 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that Silas is going to be able 590 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: to do any better than anyone else has done in 591 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: the past. 592 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be very worried if I was a 593 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: Rockets fan that they have a rough start to the 594 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: season and you've got a rookie coach in there, you've 595 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 3: got an owner hemorrhaging money by all accounts, and you know, suddenly, 596 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: would it be shocking if a Harden, maybe a Westbrook, 597 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: maybe both, they're like, I don't want to be here, 598 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 3: Get me out of here, right, you know, I'm up 599 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: there in age. I want to ring trade me. I mean, 600 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: I could see that. I don't know, maybe not, but maybe, 601 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: like you're saying, task, maybe the hope is Steven Silas, 602 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: as I said, is such a well liked guy that 603 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: they wouldn't want to do that, and they and they 604 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: will play hard for him. They'll change up things and 605 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: stuff like that. Maybe he has that ability to connect 606 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 3: with people. So we will see. Who knows the coaches. 607 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: It's always a wild. 608 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 5: Card, right, and hopefully he connects with him and says, hey, 609 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 5: don't get injured, because you know, Westbrook wasn't. It was 610 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 5: injured in the playoffs. He wasn't himself. And I think 611 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: probably what he hasked to convince him is you got 612 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 5: to sit sometimes. I mean, really, the whole thing is 613 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 5: be fresh as possible in the playoffs for those two guys, 614 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 5: since they carry such a big load, it's not really 615 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 5: going to change. But I think the mentality that they 616 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 5: the whole you know, the load management thing's got to 617 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 5: happen with both those guys. Even though Harden likes to 618 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 5: play every single minute, I think they probably have to 619 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: take some turns. I mean, you might have to rest 620 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: once a week, especially in a bit of a truncated schedule, 621 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: might be a little bit more packed. There's gonna be 622 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 5: a decent amount of backs to backs if they go 623 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 5: to a certain city and have to play two games there, 624 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 5: Like it looks like we're gonna have some baseball series 625 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 5: out there. So I think that's really what it comes 626 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 5: out to. I think we we do lose sight of 627 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 5: the fact that this team is got the longest playoff 628 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 5: run whatever that record is Lee. I know you like 629 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 5: to pull it out. A current playoff run along with 630 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 5: the Toronto Raptors. They still do a lot. It's a 631 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 5: couple of Western Conference finals in there. But yeah, they 632 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: are getting a little bit of become last year's story, 633 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 5: kind of an old story. But hopefully Steven Styles can 634 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: can try and get them fresh as possible in the postseason, 635 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 5: because you know, we're here, we got here. We got 636 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 5: here an Alan Iverson type Westbrook sort of in a 637 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 5: bit of a decline, you know, that's just how it 638 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 5: works with these explosive guards. And so the biggest thing 639 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: I think is he's got to be fresh, and he's 640 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 5: got to be able to finish around the rim because 641 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 5: he didn't look like himself in that Lakers series when 642 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 5: they lost in five games. 643 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: And will the Rockets continue to go pocket rockets or 644 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 3: will they go get a center and actually play a 645 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: little bit more of a normal basketball because that's the 646 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: other thing to ask you talking about a schedule, if 647 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: it's truncated and stuff like, I just don't think you can. 648 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: I don't think you can do it as it is, 649 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 3: but especially not in a shortened season. It's more packed in. 650 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: For ask these guys that are six six sixty seven 651 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: to play center. I mean for an entire year. I 652 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: just think they run out of gas. So maybe they'll 653 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: switch it up and go with a more traditional I 654 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 3: guess big. We'll see what they do there. 655 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 5: I disagree Isaiah's got a lot of Heartenstein, but I 656 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: think you need another big guy in there. 657 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: Let's get to the schedule, because the NBA and the 658 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: NBA Players Association, they're still at odds a little bit 659 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: here over the start of the next season. The union 660 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: is resisting thus far, a league plan to open a 661 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: short and seventy two game regular season on December twenty second, 662 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: and then complete the NBA Finals before the Summer Olympics. 663 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: In July, mark Stein reported that the NBA players may 664 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: only be offered a fifty game season if the union 665 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: insists on a mid January start. So this is sort 666 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 3: of getting a little dice. I say a little because 667 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: you know, the players Association and the league they pushed back, 668 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: you know, when they wanted to come upon an agreement. 669 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 3: Last Friday was going to be the date. They say, Okay, well, 670 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: let's let's push it back a little bit. Keeps getting 671 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: pushed back and push back and push back, so they're 672 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: still talking to each other, but there definitely is some 673 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: negotiation going on here, tasks throughout the media, like, let's 674 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: be honest. It's like, we get this from the league 675 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: saying we're gonna lose a billion dollars if we don't start, 676 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: and then you get the players coming back through other 677 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: reporters saying no, no, no, we're not doing that. We 678 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: want to spend Christmas with other fans. All this is 679 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: this is just going back and forth here. So what 680 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: do you think they ultimately are going to decide on 681 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: here or are you even worried at some point they 682 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: just can't come to an agreement and then uh, oh, 683 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: you know we're ripping up the CBA and starting from scratch. 684 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: What's your best guess at where this goes? 685 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: Oh, they're coming to an agreement. Okay, this isn't a 686 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: standoff between Michelle Roberts and Adam Silver. Where it went from. Hey, 687 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 5: these two are very cordial and get along very well 688 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 5: and know that the future of the business has to 689 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 5: be basketball games. They have to play games. But as 690 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: Michelle Roberts did at leading the MVPA, and she said, listen, 691 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 5: you're not going to just push us and force us 692 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: into an agreement. I wouldn't want to mess with Michelle Roberts. 693 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 5: She wants she wants a good deal for her players, 694 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 5: and that's fair. But I think the best deal for 695 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 5: her players is to get that extra five hundred million 696 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 5: to a billion dollars, And so that money, if they 697 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: do start earlier, is the most important thing for me. 698 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 5: And that's why I think they do start a little 699 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 5: bit earlier. They're already going to lose forty percent of 700 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 5: income this year, that's the report, because there's no fans 701 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: in the stands. So I think you want that extra 702 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: five to ten percent. That's what the five hundred million 703 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 5: to a billion dollars is, and the players get half 704 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 5: that if they come to a similar CBA agreement. So really, 705 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 5: when you look at four hundred players, if it's five 706 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: hundred million bucks, even on the on the low end, 707 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: it's really like two hundred thousand to a million bucks 708 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 5: a player, and two hundred thousand bucks to a lot 709 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 5: of players where your lifespan is you know, four or 710 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: five years, it's a lot of money, and I think 711 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: those players are going to push for it, even the 712 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: million dollars on the larger scale, guys, that's also a 713 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 5: decent amount of money. But to me, it's more about 714 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 5: the players that they take care of at the end 715 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 5: of benches and at the end of rosters. You want 716 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: to maximize their money, and that means starting earlier. And 717 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: that also means more importantly getting in line for next 718 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 5: season to have the season start on October seventeenth like 719 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: it usually does or November, because as we see right now, 720 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 5: that's the money maker. So the further you push it back, 721 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 5: the more you bump into next year's money as well. 722 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: This is going to be another one off. It feels 723 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 5: like it felt like the bubble was going to be 724 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 5: a one off. Well, this is the way the world 725 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 5: works now, so it's going to be another one off. 726 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: But you got to push it forward. It is a 727 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: truncated here offseason at State for everybody involved. But they 728 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 5: got to come to it. I think I think they 729 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 5: got to start early. It's in the best interest of 730 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 5: everybody and everybody's pocket most importantly. 731 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: Okay, so you still think a pre Christmas type of 732 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: start eventually happens, Trey, what do you say. 733 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the owners are going to win this 734 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 6: one because the owners usually win these negotiations. 735 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: It feels like. 736 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 6: June all over again, when we're hearing a whole bunch 737 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 6: of presentations and proposals for what the series or what 738 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 6: the season is going to be. You remember, back in 739 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 6: May and June we were talking about a World Cup 740 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 6: group stage for the NBA bubble. Things can certainly change, 741 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 6: and things changed over the course of reporting. From the 742 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 6: first time that the governors said that we wanted to 743 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 6: start in December, because then it was a matter of 744 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 6: only losing five hundred million dollars a measly five hundred 745 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 6: million in just a week, it turned into a billion. 746 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 6: It also used to be that we want to end. 747 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 6: We want to end the season so that you can 748 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 6: go play in the Olympics if you want to. But 749 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 6: now it's actually, we want to end the season so 750 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 6: that we're done before the Olympics because the Olympics will 751 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 6: kill our ratings, which we'll again hurt the pocket books. 752 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 6: So I think you factor in all of the money concerns. 753 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: Plus there's now reports. 754 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 6: That, oh yeah, don't forget, we could end the CBA 755 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 6: again if we wanted to. You see, the players lose 756 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 6: every single negotiation they have with the owners because the 757 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 6: owners unfortunately have their the control of the pocket books. 758 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 6: So I imagine we're going to be starting sometime in December. 759 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 6: It's a matter of getting that money flowing again, and 760 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 6: that is the easiest way to do it. 761 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: Lee, What do you think fifty eight game season is 762 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: perfect right now? So everyone plays each other once home 763 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: and away. That's what they should do. That's the middle 764 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: ground almost here between fifty and seventy two. It's not quite, 765 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: but it's close enough. But yeah, ultimately, what is going 766 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: to happen is the owners are just going to say, okay, 767 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 4: well we just we're not going to let you earn 768 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: as much money as you want to earn, and we're 769 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: going to control how things go from here on out 770 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 4: because they want more games on TV to make more money. 771 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 4: And that's what it comes down to at the end 772 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: of the day. So you know, like you know Lebron saying, 773 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to sit out the first month. 774 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 4: That's fine, he takes a month off anyway, don't do it, 775 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: you know, just I mean, we want we want, we 776 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: want the basketball back, but we don't want it to 777 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 4: be a messy situation where you know, this could lead 778 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 4: to some further turmoil down the road, but ultimately, yeah, 779 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 4: the owners are sort of dangling the dollars over their 780 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: head and saying, well, this is what you're going to 781 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 4: miss out on, and if you play hardball, I think 782 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: there'll be further ramifications as well. That's what they're trying 783 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: to do. They're trying to bully the players into getting 784 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 4: out there and playing. So you know, I think we're 785 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 4: going to see something closer to a Christmas Day start 786 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 4: than than a January start. I think ultimately that's what 787 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 4: will happen. But I would love to see that fifty 788 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: eight game season. It would be beautiful. 789 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: The other part of this is like what protocols are 790 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 3: going to be in place to keep everybody safe during 791 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 3: a damn pandemics here still, because like Tas said, it's 792 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: not going to be a bubble, it's going to be 793 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: a guess the scheduling where you sort of go to 794 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 3: a city and you play a couple of games, but 795 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: there has to be so much, as we just side 796 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: down in Orlando, so much in place to try and 797 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: keepbviously COVID out of whatever artificial little thing you're trying 798 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: to do here, which is so much more difficult when 799 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: players are coming and going and there is no just 800 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: you know, sealed sort of environment like they had down there, 801 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: like they're gonna need to know all this. And the 802 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: reason I bring that up is like we might be 803 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: starting to run out of time here if they're going 804 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: to play before Christmas, Like this has to get executed 805 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 3: pretty soon here to get a new Susan new season. 806 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: Excuse me, new Susan. I think I said Susan because 807 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: I was talking to Nora about getting a new Lazy 808 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: Susan for one of our cupboards. Anyway, but you gotta 809 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: get going here. You gotta spin that thing and let's 810 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: get going here to get this new season going quick. 811 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: A lazy for a cupboard, Yeah, man, you can put 812 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 5: a lot more in a cupboard. 813 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a two tier one that we're thinking 814 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: of going to. We have one in there. We're going 815 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: double Susan, double season. Wow, I've never even heard of 816 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: such a thing. That's crazy, bro, you're living the life. 817 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: Somebody negotiated their br that's right. Well, yeah, I mean 818 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: Nora's making the ultimate decision, but you know, I'm the 819 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: players this right, Nora is like, if we're getting it. 820 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: If she says we're getting a double Susan, then we're 821 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: getting a double suit if I don't want it. Even 822 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: if I don't want I'm not ready. I'm not ready. 823 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: I just put in one Susan and I can't turn 824 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: around that quickly into a double Susan. So yeah, Nora was. 825 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 6: Like, we're gonna lose fifty percent of our maple syrup 826 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 6: if we don't go to a double Susan. 827 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 5: Here. 828 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: You want that maple syrup and I love maple syrup. 829 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 3: So she's really holding it over my head. Man, it sucks. 830 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 5: We haven't seen fifty percent of our copboard in months. 831 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 5: You gotta get it. It's Susan season, baby. I want 832 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: to take the back of that cupboard. 833 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: It really is. I'll make sure to take a photo 834 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: in that double Susan comes in. I think it's been ordered, 835 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. I'm torn on this one. 836 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: I ultimately said when the first report came out that 837 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna lose a lot 838 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 3: of money if we don't start pre Christmas December twenty second. 839 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, done deal, Like I was tweeting it. 840 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: Chom says it. Then that's that's it's happening because money 841 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: talks here. But yeah, I mean the players again, I 842 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: think they can if they don't feel comfortable. Again, I 843 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: don't want to just gloss over this, and they don't 844 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 3: feel comfortable with what is set up for the safety 845 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: of them and their families in terms of protocols with 846 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 3: COVID from flying around and stuff like that and going 847 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: from arena and arena, then that is what they can say. 848 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 3: They'll be like, no, we're not doing it. You don't 849 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: This is not it's not laid out, it's not mapped out. 850 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 3: We can't just do this on the fly. We've sort 851 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: of seen that happen in other sports leagues and it 852 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 3: hasn't gone all that well at times. So I don't 853 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: know anymore. I guess my preference is they do start 854 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one in you know, Martin Luther King days, fine, 855 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: mid January, I think makes sense. Gives a little bit 856 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 3: more time. They do get their holidays here, but usually 857 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: money ultimately wins out, So we will see. Let's hear 858 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: from you guys though the stream teamers let us know 859 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: in the comments and everybody listening. Later we got lots 860 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: more so they got too. Let's take a quick break though. Alright. 861 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 3: Our next piece of news here we called this one. 862 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 3: Steve Nash and Mike D'Antoni have been reunited in Brooklyn. 863 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 3: The team announced that d'An toni, along with former Spurs 864 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 3: and Sixers assistant coach Email Udoka, will be an assistant 865 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: Undernash with the Nets. So the two join Jacquelan, who 866 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: coached the Nets in the NBA restart on the coaching staff, 867 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: along with Mary Stanemayer, who will also serve as a 868 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 3: player development assistant. So you got Nash, you got a Mari, 869 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: you got D'Antoni, you got Sean Marks in the front office. 870 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 3: My question, Trey for you, which old sons like associate player, 871 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 3: front office person, whatever is next to come to Brooklyn. 872 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: Who would you like to see in the mix? I'm 873 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: loving this. 874 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 6: I just hope that you know, Steve Nash has had 875 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 6: like production capabilities in the past, so I hope we 876 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 6: see some sort of getting the team back together montage. 877 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 6: You know, like Sean mars is calling up Steve Nash 878 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 6: and then Steve Nash is calling up a Maury Stademeier 879 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 6: and Jacques Vaughan's like, wait, I know a guy, his 880 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 6: name's Emay. And then finally they get Mike D'Antoni on 881 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 6: the horn. He's like, yeah, I'll come to Brooklyn. I'll 882 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 6: run your offense. It's exciting times getting the the seven 883 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 6: seconds or last sons back together, but it feels like 884 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 6: they've got a lot of these positions covered. Steve Nash, 885 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 6: obviously the head coach. D'Antoni, you imagine, will have a 886 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 6: major influence on the offense. And he mayodoka a defensive guy. 887 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 6: You gotta assume coming from the Spurs, he's gonna mainly 888 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 6: head up the defense, while jacqu vaughan will probably assist 889 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 6: in that realm as well. So what else is left there? 890 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 6: You know, the Brooklyn Nets, they take a ton of threes, 891 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 6: but they were not great at shooting threes. Last season. 892 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 6: They finished fifth in attempts per game, but only twenty 893 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 6: six in percent. I think they need a shooting coach. 894 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 6: They got to bring Sean Marion in to teach these 895 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 6: guys how to just flick it on up there a 896 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 6: little well, push it be flicking it here. You know, 897 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 6: Sean Marion is the biggest name left from those Suns teams. 898 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 6: Unfortunately he doesn't necessarily have a job that fits his 899 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 6: particular skill set. We know him for his defense and unfortunately, 900 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 6: we do know him for his shooting form. So I 901 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 6: would like to see him pass it down to Joe Harris. 902 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 6: You know, I think the Nets should bring back Joe Harris. 903 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 6: He's a great three point shooter. Let's ruin it. Let's 904 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 6: get him shooting like Sean Marion. 905 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 3: Be fun times. No, I like that idea. You just 906 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 3: bring in Sean Harried as your shooting coach. You show 907 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 3: him shooting, and then you go, don't do that. Just 908 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: don't do that, and you're gonna be good. Yeah. You 909 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 3: got the janky fingers that he's got, all right, So 910 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: shot Marian is an obvious one. Yeah, get him in 911 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: the mix here, Lee, Do you have anyone else. 912 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 4: You got to bring back? Bobo Boris Dior because listen, 913 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 4: I think with Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, you know, both 914 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 4: of those guys, you know, we know they can be 915 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 4: a little bit fictitious with some of their teammates. Boris 916 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 4: Dior is the guy who's going to come in with 917 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 4: his espresso machine and anytime this tension building, he's just 918 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 4: going to say, sit down, Let's have a coffee, let's 919 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 4: talk about it, or a glass of wine. He's going 920 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: to ease the tension if there is any in that 921 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 4: locker room. And it'd be just great to have Bobo 922 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 4: back out there. So yeah, bring him back. Of course, 923 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 4: he played with He was actually very good too with 924 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 4: Steve Nash in those early two thousand and five six 925 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 4: Sons teams. He was pretty pretty good player. And he's 926 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 4: a fun guy. I'd love to see him back in 927 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 4: the league. But he's out on his yacht. He's cruising around, 928 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 4: he's having a great time. I don't think he wants 929 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 4: to come back to the NBA, so it might be 930 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 4: hard to convince him. But if you do, I think 931 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 4: you'd be nice guy, just to keep things level and 932 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 4: to make everyone feel good about themselves in that locker room. 933 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 4: Thing's get to be crazy. 934 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Sean Marian Boris, do you task anyone? Dad? 935 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: No? 936 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 5: I love the Boris Diau pick, because yeah, he doesn't 937 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 5: want to be a coach. He's too busy. He's the 938 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 5: most interesting man in the world. But they already have 939 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 5: enough coaches, As Kyrie Irving said, they can all be coaches. 940 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 5: Jacqua mind can be a coach. Kevin Durant can be 941 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 5: a coach. Mari Son rag they have a billion coaches, 942 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 5: but you have the most interesting man in the world 943 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 5: as your player development guy, even though he's not going 944 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 5: to develop anything. He's just there to chat. I mean, 945 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving wants to be the most interesting man in 946 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 5: the world. He's got a lot going on. You can 947 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 5: chat it up with Boris Diao. Steven ash was in 948 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 5: that role with the Warriors where he would just come 949 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 5: in and work with specifically one guy and Kevin Durant. 950 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think Boris would be perfect buddies with 951 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving. I think you just talk about life. There's 952 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 5: enough coaching. We don't need any of that. But Bobo, yeah, 953 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 5: we need him back in lives. 954 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 3: Okay, if there's enough coaches, let's get some players for 955 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 3: the nuts. Then Joe Johnson, let's go former son. He 956 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 3: played for a minute and uh Leandro Barbosa, I'm sure 957 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 3: he still got it now. 958 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 4: He's in the Golden State, though, I think. 959 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he's playing anymore. 960 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 4: There is he? 961 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 3: No, he's in the front office. 962 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Yeah, well, there you go. 963 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: He's got some reps in get him over to Steve Nash. 964 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 3: That's who I want to see back. But yeah, excited, 965 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 3: excited for D'Antoni and we got it's amazing he's there. 966 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 3: What a weird, weird thing. He is now an assistant 967 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 3: under a guy that he you know, somewhat recently, I guess, coach. 968 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 3: It's been longer than I probably remember. 969 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 6: But like that picture of Splinter watching walking with the 970 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 6: Ninja turtles, and then there's another picture the turtles are 971 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 6: fully grown. 972 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's a good way to put it all right, 973 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 3: next one here. According to the ESPN's Brian Windhorse, the 974 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 3: Cleveland Cavaliers are looking to start competing in the near future. 975 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 3: Wendy said on his podcast, quote the Calves, who have 976 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: sort of been at the bottom from what I have understand, 977 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 3: intend to move up. They intend to hit the gas 978 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 3: a little bit. That's the money quote. Their task hit 979 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 3: the gas a little bit. So for what it's worth, 980 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 3: the Calves have the fifth pick in the upcoming draft. 981 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 3: Then they got a bunch of players that what do 982 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: you think this is a bad idea? A buch of players. Yeah, yeah, 983 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 3: but it's got a bunch of players. Bad idea for 984 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: the Calves to hit the gas a little bit and 985 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: try and speed up this process, accelerate. What do you think. 986 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 5: I think it's a very good idea. Gas it up. 987 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 5: I don't see what the problem is. They're the worst 988 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 5: team in the Eastern Conference. Last year. They weren't a 989 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 5: very good team with a very high payroll. Basically, their 990 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 5: team is going to be the same next year anyways. 991 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 5: Their front court's going to be Kevin Love and Andre Drummond. 992 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 5: Their backcourt's going to be Darius Garland and Colin Sexton. 993 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 5: How can it be worse? They don't have a good 994 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 5: team going forward. It just didn't work out last year. 995 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 5: So Brian Winhurst was it was one sentence from that podcast. 996 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 5: I went and listened. Yeah, he said quickly, he said, yeah, 997 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 5: the Calves don't want to be a seller. They intend 998 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 5: to accelerate the rebuild. Well, listen, they've sort of been 999 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 5: in rebuild. They haven't shown that they can hit home 1000 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 5: runs with their draft picks, and so they have the 1001 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 5: number five pick right now. I mean the status quot 1002 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 5: would be taking someone at the number five pick and 1003 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 5: adding him to this roster, or you trade the five pick, 1004 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 5: maybe trade another player and try and I guess accelerate. 1005 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 5: I mean they won nineteen games last year. It's not 1006 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 5: a good team. I think if you're in this car, 1007 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 5: you turn the wheel a little bit, go in another 1008 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 5: direction and hit the gas. Sure, I think that's a 1009 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 5: good idea. I think Kevin Porter Junior is the only 1010 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 5: guy that I see that I want to have more 1011 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 5: minutes on that team. The lefty there is a good 1012 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 5: young player, but the other ones have disappointed to this 1013 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 5: point in their career. So that one sentence from Brian Winhurst, 1014 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 5: I think, roll with it, change it up, Kobe Altman, 1015 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 5: change it up and go in a different direction because 1016 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 5: things aren't working. Can it get worse? No? So the 1017 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 5: Kevin Love Andre Drummond experiment that we didn't really see 1018 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 5: last year because Love was hurt and Drummond was hurt. 1019 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 5: It's going to be interesting, but it wasn't good. So 1020 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 5: why the heck not change it up? 1021 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 7: All right? 1022 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 3: What do you think? Learly? 1023 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 4: Well, the idea is right, Yeah, it's hey, you're going 1024 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 4: to execute it? Really? I mean, sure, everyone wants to 1025 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 4: accelerate and be a contender as soon as possible, but 1026 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 4: that roster is just it's a weird mix. I mean 1027 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 4: Tastin mentioned there. You've got Love and Drummer who are 1028 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 4: in win now mode, and then you've got that backcourt 1029 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 4: of Garland and Sexton that is like they're not anywhere 1030 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 4: near ready to win now. So you either have to 1031 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 4: get rid of your veterans and get some younger players 1032 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 4: in to grow with those younger guys, or you trade 1033 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: away those younger guys and get some vets in and 1034 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 4: potentially try to vault up the standing in the Eastern 1035 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 4: Conference that way. But I'm not really sure how you 1036 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 4: would do either of those successfully and be accelerating in 1037 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 4: your rebuilt. So you know, the Cavs, they're a team 1038 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 4: that is not a free agent destination obviously now with 1039 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 4: Lebron not there, so they have to find a way 1040 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 4: to get players to come there who are already under 1041 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: contract or to draft them, and I think that's the 1042 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 4: best way to move. And when you've got Kevin Love, 1043 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 4: who would no doubt still get some interest out there 1044 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 4: on the trademarket, and Andre Drummond as well, cashing those 1045 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 4: assets and see if you can get some draft picks 1046 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: and do a bit of job in the draft, I 1047 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 4: think that's the only real way to do it, because 1048 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: it's one thing to say we want to accelerate, it's 1049 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 4: nothing to go out and do it and be successful 1050 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 4: at it immediately. So good luck, good luck to everybody. 1051 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: Did Yeah, that's right, try anything to add to the calves. 1052 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 6: I don't really want to talk too much about the calves. 1053 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 6: It's hard to think about what they're doing. How did 1054 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 6: they accelerate the rebuild? Did they start the rebuild? They 1055 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 6: still have Kevin Love, they traded for Andre Drummond last year. 1056 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 6: When were they rebuilding? They're just bad. I don't feel 1057 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 6: like they're actually building towards anything. So yeah, maybe you 1058 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 6: do need to accelerate it a little bit. It's going 1059 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 6: to be hard to trade Kevin Love. It's been hard 1060 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 6: to trade him since you signed him. He's on the 1061 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 6: books until twenty twenty three. Drummond surely will be picking 1062 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 6: up his option for next season. But then I kind 1063 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 6: of think next summer is when the rebuild is really happening, right, 1064 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 6: because Drummond will then be off the books. Down to 1065 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 6: ax them comes off the books, your cap is looking 1066 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 6: a little bit cleaner to maybe at least acquire some 1067 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 6: more veterans. You're not gonna be signing big names obviously, 1068 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 6: like Lee's saying, you don't have the Lebron draw there anymore. 1069 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 6: But you just to me, accelerating the rebuild from the 1070 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 6: Calves means seeing a good season from Porter or Sexton 1071 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 6: or Garland. 1072 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 3: That to me is the key. 1073 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 6: Those are your three pieces you would think will be 1074 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 6: around for somewhat of the future. Whatever the future for 1075 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 6: the Calves is, those guys need to be good. I 1076 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 6: would decelerate the rebuild or rebuild harder. I don't exactly 1077 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 6: know what it is. Kevin Love needs to be out 1078 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 6: of there. Andre Drummond needs to be out of there. 1079 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 6: You haven't hit rock bottom yet. It feels like you've 1080 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 6: hit rock bottom because you're the worst team in the 1081 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 6: Eastern Conference back to back years after going to the 1082 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 6: finals for four straight seasons. 1083 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: It feels like you're rebuilding, but you haven't committed fully. 1084 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1085 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy when you look at the Eastern 1086 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 3: Conference standings from last season. Yeah, you guys are saying 1087 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 3: it Calves worse nineteen and forty six. It's more embarrassing 1088 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 3: to me like that. The Hawks, the Pistons, the Knicks 1089 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 3: and the Bulls were like within three games of that 1090 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: worst record in the Eastern Conference. Like, my goodness, holy crap, 1091 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 3: there was a lot of garbage teams. 1092 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, a lot of garbage teams. If I'm not mistaken. 1093 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 6: The Bulls lost to the Cabs a couple of times 1094 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 6: last last year too, So I don't know. It sounds 1095 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 6: like maybe Cleveland needs an infusion of soul and spirit. 1096 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 6: I know they got a JB on the bench, what 1097 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 6: about Jim? 1098 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 3: So sorry, I freaked out there for a second. I 1099 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 3: accidentally hit the YouTube and I started playing what I 1100 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 3: was just saying. So I was looping there. That was 1101 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 3: a very very creepy all right, that's a good sign 1102 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 3: to move on from the caves. Uh this, Oh my goodness. 1103 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 3: All right, JD, you're gonna put We're gonna put you 1104 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 3: to work here. So NBA teams across the league have 1105 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 3: begun to roll out new uniforms for the twenty twenty 1106 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 3: one season, or maybe it's just the twenty one season. 1107 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 3: We'll find out. So we had a million leaks we're 1108 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 3: gonna get to but we know one is official. Official. 1109 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 3: You're looking at it now if you're joining us live 1110 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 3: on YouTube. It's the Blazers. They unveiled their Nike City 1111 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 3: Edition design, which pays homage to the team's home state 1112 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 3: of Oregon. So you see it there. These are all right, 1113 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,120 Speaker 3: I think, you know, very unique, that's for sure. And 1114 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 3: no Blazers on it. No Portland, it's just straight up state. 1115 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 3: And you got the topographical sort of lines there of 1116 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 3: a map. So that's that. So keep that in the mix. 1117 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: That's official. Those are real. And then we have a 1118 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 3: million leaks and I'm going to show them all to you. 1119 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 3: I think there's something like, I don't know, it's like 1120 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 3: fifteen leaks here, no idea if any of these are 1121 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 3: real real, but for the most part, these usually come true. 1122 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: So leaks. The Spurs the Fiesta could be back in 1123 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 3: the mix. The Warriors going with an Oakland vibe. We 1124 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 3: believe Oakland. I guess the Lakers could be going with 1125 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 3: a blue shout out to Elgin. Baylor are sort of 1126 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: a white and blue. The Nets, yep, that's something we 1127 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 3: can get into that if we want. The Suns might 1128 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 3: be going with this crazy sort of the Valley vibe. 1129 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 3: It's got a very Tetris sort of look there. The 1130 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 3: Mavericks reportedly going with a golden white silver. Look the 1131 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 3: Wizards from Classic Gray Gotta love gray on a basketball jersey? 1132 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 3: What is this? Baseball? So DC looked there this one? 1133 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 3: The Pelicans looks like it could also be the Montreal team, 1134 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 3: the Knicks City Never Sleeps New York Knicks. Again, these 1135 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 3: are reported leaks and these potential jerseys. The Bulls with 1136 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 3: this very it's like a movie Chicago, right or something 1137 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 3: like that. Very art deco. Yes, art deco, That's what 1138 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 3: I'm looking for. The Pistons could be going with this 1139 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: motor City and then Detroit, Michigan. Underneath you always got 1140 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 3: this circle, and then you got the Grizzlies, probably going 1141 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 3: with the Memphis. This is probably official, going with the 1142 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 3: Memphis throwback because we've seen him do something similar, so 1143 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 3: this would be the next iteration of that. And then 1144 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 3: the Raptors finally with an ovo like Toronto across the chest. 1145 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 3: Got this sort of like line underneath it. All right, 1146 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 3: So those were all the leaks, and I could be 1147 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 3: missing some too. There's so many, there's like two, three, 1148 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 3: like every hour, it felt like, but including the Blay 1149 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 3: which is official official of all those, I just showed you, Trey, 1150 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,479 Speaker 3: what was your favorite or least favorite. What do you think? 1151 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about some good ones first. I really 1152 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 6: like the Suns one. I liked the Valley. It's kind 1153 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 6: of an established jersey look right with a silhouette, whether 1154 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 6: it be of mountains whatever I supposed to suppose that's 1155 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 6: what this is supposed to be, or buildings like we've 1156 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 6: seen with Denver. 1157 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 3: And Dallas in the past. 1158 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 6: I also like the way that the black with the 1159 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 6: flame colors kind of plays on the old jerseys that 1160 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 6: Charles Barkley used to wear back in the day. JD 1161 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 6: mentioned in Slack that it maybe is not widely known 1162 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 6: that the Phoenix area could be called the Valley, but 1163 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 6: I still think these look great. And I also really 1164 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 6: liked the Spurs ones as well. You know, people have 1165 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 6: been wanting them to wear Fiesta jerseys forever because they 1166 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 6: had the Fiesta warm ups back in the David Robinson days. 1167 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 6: They're finally putting it on a jersey and it looks great. 1168 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 6: It looks exactly as cool as everybody assumed it would be. 1169 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,359 Speaker 3: Okay, so are your favorites? What's your your worst one? Oh, 1170 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 3: the next one is just brutal. The next is one 1171 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 3: hundred percent brutal. They put the wrong phrase on it. 1172 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,760 Speaker 3: City never sleeps. 1173 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 6: It's the city that never sleeps. And if you google 1174 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 6: city never sleeps, a phrase that is not associated with anybody, 1175 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 6: it comes up to a movie about the city of Chicago, 1176 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,919 Speaker 6: which was the original city that Never sleeps until Frank 1177 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 6: Sinatra came around in the nineteen eighties and stole it. 1178 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 3: You put the wrong phrase on your jerseys. This is brutal. 1179 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 6: Also brutal the Detroit Pistons who have a comma on 1180 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 6: their jersey. I've got punctuation on your jersey, Pistons, come on, religula. 1181 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think so many of these are atrocious. 1182 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 3: I don't like a lot of these. I'm glad you 1183 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 3: pointed out the Spurs. I love that one. I'm not 1184 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 3: even the biggest fan. I got to admit of the Sun's one. 1185 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: But Lee, let's go to you. What do you like 1186 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 3: or dislike from the bunch? 1187 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 4: Well, I definitely had suns one as well. That was 1188 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 4: probably my favorite. So yeah, run, I just sort of 1189 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 4: like that. And again, it sort of looks like the 1190 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 4: night with the sun rising or setting, whichever way you 1191 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 4: want to look at it. There, So I thought that 1192 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 4: was cool. But I actually don't mind the Lakers one 1193 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 4: either there live there. That's a bit of a throwback there. 1194 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 4: When I first I thought I'm not so special about that, 1195 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 4: but then I looked at him like, actually, that wouldn't 1196 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 4: look too bad out on the court, I think, with 1197 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 4: the nice blue shoes as well on the players. So 1198 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of that one there. Ok, yeah, 1199 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 4: those are my two. 1200 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, tas what are you like? Well? Sorry, sorry, 1201 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 3: which one do you heat? Do you have one your heat? 1202 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1203 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 4: It's tough to go past the next one there because 1204 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 4: it just looks as well, like the font is like 1205 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 4: it's covered up as well. You can't read it. 1206 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the ingredient Laker. 1207 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 4: It's so it just reminds me of the Office, New York. 1208 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,760 Speaker 4: New York's the night club that never sleeps, that shuts 1209 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 4: it one. 1210 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 3: I mean, people have literally been clamoring Knicks fans for 1211 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 3: a black jersey like for so long. I feels like, 1212 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 3: and this is what they're given, Like somehow, even in 1213 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 3: a black jersey in our opinions at least, maybe there's 1214 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 3: some people out there that like it. Tasks you got 1215 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 3: what you got? A favorite one? 1216 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 5: You hate, well, jump, let's let's keep jumping on the 1217 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 5: Knicks there for a second. But I do want to 1218 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 5: mention the Knicks. So it says city never sleeps, taking 1219 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 5: out the in that the city that never sleeps now. 1220 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 5: If they're good, let's say they're good. It could be 1221 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 5: like we the North in Toronto. It's not gonna happen, 1222 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 5: but let's just say that everyone was getting we the 1223 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 5: North wrong. There's a lot of people saying we are 1224 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 5: the North. Yeah, right, and then and then it just 1225 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 5: becomes a conversation. Oh yeah, come on, come on, you 1226 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 5: gotta be cool and say city never sleeps. It's unfortunate. 1227 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 5: This thing is unfortunate. This is this jersey. Just it's 1228 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 5: not good. I don't I don't particularly like that one. 1229 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 5: It it almost seems like a knockoff. It seems like, yeah, 1230 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 5: someone just threw that together, especially that NYC part. Yeah. 1231 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 5: I'm not a big circle person. I don't mind a 1232 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 5: nice little comma in that Detroit, Michigan one. Give me 1233 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 5: more punctuation, love me some punctuations, exclamation. It's a lot 1234 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 5: of words on that jersey. I do like the Oregon 1235 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 5: the Blazers one. I do too, it's a lot of 1236 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,919 Speaker 5: earth tones, a lot of earth. They love the earth 1237 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 5: in Oregon. I like the jagged lines down the side 1238 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 5: as well, that you know, don't don't line up on 1239 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 5: the side. It looks cool now on the court. I 1240 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 5: think it should still look cool. I imagine it in 1241 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 5: Portland's arena. 1242 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 2: Uh. 1243 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 5: And I think it'll look cool under those lights. Like 1244 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,720 Speaker 5: what Lee said about the Lakers. I think the Lakers 1245 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 5: one that electric blue will look good in Staples under 1246 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 5: those lights. The what do they call it, the blackout situation? 1247 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 3: They got to see every arena do that too, right? 1248 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 3: Good points they could implement something like that, and that's 1249 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 3: what I read some report that that's a possibility to 1250 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 3: make it like atmospheric and stuff like that. 1251 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they have sent down stipulation or suggestions as 1252 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 5: to how you entertain Uh. The entertainment rule is basically 1253 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 5: how how because they learned so much from the bubble 1254 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 5: with no fans, so they have sent that down. And yeah, 1255 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 5: the Lakers blue will work. And I'm interested to see 1256 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 5: how the pellies work out, because I'm they they go 1257 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 5: different in New Orleans. They've done that, you know, the 1258 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 5: front in the back. 1259 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't mind it either. 1260 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 6: But I just assume that anybody that puts on his 1261 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 6: Zion Williamson jersey is just gonna. 1262 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 3: Have jacked arms immediately. Yeah, they come with the jersey. 1263 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 5: I was swayed as well when I saw this guy. 1264 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 5: He looks cool. Uh, he's he's ripped. He looks good, 1265 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 5: and so it makes the jersey look good. 1266 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1267 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: I know you're right, though, cropped it a little bit 1268 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: because he's wearing like the tightest pants ever. It looks 1269 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 3: really funny with the tight pants. So many pointed out two, 1270 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 3: like the blue band at the bottom is interesting because. 1271 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 5: It's gonna be tight in. 1272 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be tucked in. Yeah, for the for the players, 1273 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 3: but that probably means the shorts are blue. I mean 1274 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 3: you got to think so yeah. 1275 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to see that blue. I want to 1276 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 5: see but the shorts of them, that makes sense. No 1277 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 5: Orleans changes it up. You know, they had that the 1278 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 5: crazy one, I forget the name of it. That the 1279 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 5: front was different than the back where they had like 1280 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 5: the four quadrants one. Yeah, it's like. 1281 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 6: Purple and green, different spots, yeah, Marty. 1282 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 5: So they go different with the shoulders and then the 1283 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 5: bought and the flourid de Leise. 1284 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 3: I like it. 1285 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 5: New Orleans can be different. They can be different because 1286 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 5: it's such a unique city in the United States. So 1287 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 5: I'm looking. I want to see that on the court, 1288 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 5: and not just this Jack guy, but I think all 1289 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 5: the other players will look good as well. 1290 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 3: Let's bring JD in. What do you think. I know, 1291 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 3: when we were sharing this in the slack channel, JD, 1292 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 3: you were not that impressed with a lot of them. 1293 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 3: You were like me, going everyone felt like it was 1294 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 3: getting uglier and uglier. It's almost started to become a joke. 1295 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: But what do you think? What's your favorite and then 1296 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 3: your least favorite. 1297 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 7: Well, I'll start with My least favorite is actually the 1298 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 7: palas it it looks like a smock to me, like 1299 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 7: welcome to Walgreens or good or like like something in 1300 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 7: a shoul would wear in an obscure sport, you know, 1301 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 7: like a French water polo league or something. Handed penalties 1302 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 7: in the pool there. But yeah, my favorite actually is 1303 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 7: as well is the Valley. I mean, now, as I 1304 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 7: Trey mentioned that I did that, I didn't know that 1305 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 7: the Phoenix was known as the Valley. In fact, the 1306 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 7: valley this scream San Fernando Valley like like seventies poorn 1307 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 7: to me which is great? 1308 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 5: Which was? 1309 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 7: Which is what I said in slack? And I put 1310 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 7: this picture in slack. I want to see Philip seymour 1311 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 7: Hoffen wearing the Valley a way too tight Valley jersey. 1312 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 7: But this fell fat, flat and slack, so I hesitated 1313 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 7: to put it on the air. You know, workshopping things 1314 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 7: in slack is not a good idea. 1315 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 3: What what do you think, Trey of Because we've seen 1316 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 3: the Nets do a jersey for like Biggie before, right 1317 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 3: Torius bg And now we've got this one. I can't 1318 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 3: even remember the artist that this is, John Michelle Boskie. 1319 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you. What do you think 1320 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 3: of this? I mean it's different. 1321 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 6: There's a lot going on, no doubt, but that kind 1322 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 6: of fits with the boskyacht painting and he's a local artist. 1323 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 3: They've done this. Who did they have? 1324 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 6: I think they had Phase did the graffiti for their 1325 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 6: Brooklyn Bay ly N jerseys they had last year as well. 1326 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 6: But they also put in a new floor last season 1327 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 6: that kind of matched those great jerseys they had. I 1328 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 6: wonder if they'll do something simple or something similar with 1329 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 6: some crazy colors or something on their court this year, 1330 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 6: we'll see. I don't like them as much as the 1331 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 6: Koujie ones they had, but Brooklyn, to me, kind of 1332 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 6: always nails it with their uniforms. They're just playing on 1333 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 6: a theme. They've got the general look of a plane 1334 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 6: jersey and then they tinker around the edges with it. 1335 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 6: It's really weird, but I'm kind of for it. Okay, 1336 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 6: all right, Well, let's hear from the stream teamers. Let's 1337 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 6: hear from everybody on Twitter at no Dunk Sink. 1338 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 3: Let us know your favorite of the bunch, your least favorite, 1339 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 3: Which one you thinks looks like garbage? Because there is 1340 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 3: some there's some rude ones. Think the Warriors one is 1341 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 3: horrible too, Like, first off, you're not in Oakland anymore, 1342 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 3: like you just left, man, and then you're throwing that 1343 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 3: across the chest and it's like a play on the 1344 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 3: wee bully. I don't like that. And again, I always 1345 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 3: wonder with these leaks, do they do they throw these 1346 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 3: out into the world and then just see what the 1347 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 3: reaction is and they're like, oh, never mind, we won't 1348 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,479 Speaker 3: release that. They just like, are they committed? And there's 1349 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 3: like tags on them and they've already printed. You know, 1350 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 3: millions of these, who knows, But I don't like that, Lee. 1351 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 4: It looks like a knockoff jersey that my dad used 1352 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 4: to buy when he would go on business trips to 1353 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 4: America in the late eighties and he'd come back with 1354 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 4: like this Lakers jacket, and I wanted the start of 1355 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 4: Lakers jacket and he was like, the couldn't get one, 1356 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 4: but I go, this one was just as cool, and 1357 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 4: it was like, just some other guy has just put 1358 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 4: this jacket together, probably cost him ten bucks, but I 1359 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 4: would wear that around because no one else had it. 1360 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 3: Says Los Angeles lasers on it. Oh, I didn't notice that. 1361 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 4: That's what it looks like, which is disappointing because the 1362 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 4: Warriors have had some pretty fire jerseys toll where over 1363 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 4: the last five years or so, so it looks like 1364 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 4: they're just like, yeah, yeah, not sorry, guys. 1365 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. It looks like a lot of these were designed 1366 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 3: pretty damn quickly, which is a little disappointing. But again, 1367 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 3: you let us know on Twitter or in the comments. Okay, 1368 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 3: final one. Here got a little video that accompanies it. 1369 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Former President Barack Obama showed he can still get some buckets, 1370 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 3: swishing a corner three pointer at a Flint, Michigan Jim 1371 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 3: on Saturday while he was on the campaign trail for 1372 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, his former vice president. Let's roll this clip. 1373 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:41,439 Speaker 3: It's so good. Yes, So splashes the corner of three, 1374 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 3: says that's what I do beneath the mask, then pops 1375 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 3: the mask down just so you heard it again, that's 1376 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 3: what I do. On a scale of one to ten, Lee, 1377 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 3: just lobbing a softball up to here right now here, buddy, 1378 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 3: scale of one to ten, How cool is this video? 1379 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 4: Ten being the coolest that four million? I mean, it's 1380 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 4: just got everything out there, Like he just gets the 1381 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 4: ball so that just someone passes to him. He's got 1382 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 4: a little heavy takes a dripple, knocks in the three 1383 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 4: strauts off the court like he's the coolest guy in 1384 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 4: the world, talks his smack, and then just in case 1385 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 4: you didn't hear him, he lowers the mask to talk 1386 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 4: his smack a little more. So much just got a 1387 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 4: cop I think that's he's just walking out of there 1388 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 4: like the coolest man on it. I don't think there 1389 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 4: has ever been a five to eight second clip on 1390 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 4: the Internet that's had so much drip so. 1391 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 8: Much swagger than what Baracobaba did just that because he 1392 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 8: I mean, he knocks in the three to like checks 1393 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 8: his feet, there's a little wiggle and then he just 1394 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 8: walks off like, yeah, man, I'm the coolest man in 1395 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 8: the world. 1396 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,959 Speaker 4: I thought that was the most amazing clip I saw, 1397 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 4: and I've seen for a long time. Man, man, he's 1398 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 4: a cool dude. 1399 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 3: And as well, you know, he's. 1400 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 4: Wearing like pants and a jacket there and. 1401 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 3: Like at weird if he was in a full basketball 1402 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 3: well exactly. 1403 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 4: But that's the thing, like he made that like he 1404 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 4: didn't sort of have any he didn't sort of hang 1405 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 4: on a minute, let me take my shirt. He didn't 1406 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 4: do the Kenny the jet you know he's gonna I 1407 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,080 Speaker 4: gotta take my jacket off. 1408 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 3: He just grabbed the ball, knocked in the three, walked 1409 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 3: out of this. If you old mother is. 1410 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 4: And just lessen gim it was so cool. 1411 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: Man. 1412 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 4: He's as I wish he was. I wish he was 1413 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 4: gonna be at president again tomorrow. 1414 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 3: But a cold clip. 1415 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 4: It is so cool. 1416 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 3: Anything to add h to ask or tray about that 1417 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 3: Obama three splashing it from the corner. 1418 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 6: Looks like he's been working with Sean Marion on this 1419 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 6: three pointer form there from the corner a little flickty. 1420 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 6: I also don't know who it is, but as soon 1421 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 6: as Burring nails that, somebody basically yells, oh we are 1422 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 6: well Sasha barre Corn trying to get close to Obama 1423 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 6: getting burned poor at three. 1424 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 3: I do like how like LEGiT's not surprised, but I 1425 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 3: gets impressed. A lot of people are in the clip 1426 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 3: like they're like, you can see a couple of faces like, 1427 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 3: damn yeah, it's pretty damn cool man like even in 1428 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,680 Speaker 3: the moment right there, tasks anything to add to Barry's 1429 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 3: three very cool. 1430 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 5: I think that his staff set it up so they 1431 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 5: left from that corner because it would have been a 1432 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 5: different shot from the opposite corner going to that hand. 1433 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 5: So they're always looking out for the president former president 1434 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 5: doing it right. He's fresh, he's so fresh on the 1435 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,760 Speaker 5: campaign trail. He's just joined basically the last a week 1436 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 5: and a half or whatever. He is, so he's smart. 1437 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,919 Speaker 5: He's a smart guy. He's fifty nine years old. He's 1438 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 5: banging on that shot. It's money. He was on the 1439 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 5: shop was just released with him and Lebron James. So 1440 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 5: go check that out the conversation that they had while 1441 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 5: Lebron and the Lakers were deciding do we stay here 1442 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 5: in the bubble. He called up Lebron and they had 1443 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 5: that conversation. Brock coming through, man, just absolutely coming through 1444 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 5: here in the clutch as he did on the basketball floor. 1445 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 3: The one thing I would always make fun of Barack 1446 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 3: Obama was him playing pick up basket well in pants. 1447 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 3: But now it all makes sensely now you've tucked me 1448 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 3: into it. He's putting in the reps playing in pants 1449 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 3: so he can do something cool like this in his 1450 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 3: slacks as he leaves the gym. Now that he's thinking 1451 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 3: he's just playing chess, man, he's ten steps ahead of it. 1452 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1453 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 4: Man, he's just the Fonds. That's basically what he is. 1454 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 4: It's a real life version of the Fonds. And you know, 1455 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 4: yesterday I tried to recreate it. I thought he's a 1456 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,040 Speaker 4: good little funny video I could put together, me and 1457 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 4: Barak doing that same thing working off. I had my 1458 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 4: kids out, I had the coffee all set up. I 1459 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 4: tried it. I knocked it in. I did it a 1460 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 4: couple of times. Then I'm like, there's no point. I 1461 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 4: just can't. I cannot recreate anything like that, even if 1462 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 4: it was like I thought it might be funny, No, 1463 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 4: not worth it. Barak stands alone. 1464 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 3: Wow, you're telling me you actually went through all the 1465 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 3: trouble setting all up, recorded it, and then even still 1466 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 3: watching it back, you're like, ah, this is I had 1467 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 3: it in my movie. 1468 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 4: I had to split screens and everything. I tried to 1469 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 4: land it all up, and I looked at it. I 1470 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 4: showed it to my wife and I said, that's there's 1471 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 4: no point really trying to recreate that, is it? 1472 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 3: Like sorry, honey, we just wasted all your afternoon, you. 1473 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 4: Know, because remember last year, last year in the playoffs, 1474 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 4: you know, I recreated a couple like Lillard's big Shot 1475 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 4: and guys, and you know, like whatever you think you 1476 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 4: know or not. I thought that's a little bit of 1477 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 4: something to put out there in social media. I did 1478 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 4: the split screen. I thought maybe I'll do my first 1479 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 4: ever reel on Instagram here. But I couldn't figure that 1480 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 4: one out. So I had to go into into I 1481 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 4: movie and put it all together. And yeah, it just 1482 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 4: it was just like, you know what, you can't replicate 1483 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,959 Speaker 4: anything like that. You can't just can't make it that cool. 1484 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 3: So I let it. 1485 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 4: I let it go. 1486 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 3: Are you wearing pants when you shot it? 1487 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 4: Well, so that was the other thing. 1488 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 3: No, was he didn't want to put on pants. 1489 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 4: But but I was like, I was like, is that 1490 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 4: too much? Or should I just be out there? You know, 1491 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 4: I had the mask and everything, I'm out with the kids. 1492 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 4: But I'm like, yeah, I just can't do it. So 1493 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 4: you know, I let it slide. 1494 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 3: I thought you were going to see you went over 1495 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 3: at Tassa's house picked up his vault mask. You can 1496 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 3: had that's a little real Wow, that's crazy. Yes, more 1497 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 3: drip than a piece of celery with hummus hanging up 1498 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 3: and else is Halloween party? 1499 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 6: Pretty good comment from Rodrigo on the stream team, who says, 1500 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 6: I love that the Funds is the epitome of cool 1501 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 6: for Lee. That's between the Funs and Styles Glinsky. 1502 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 4: One dude, now you're talking. Yeah, there you do. But 1503 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 4: Styles would have been the one in the video like 1504 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 4: really hyping him up, you know, like give me the 1505 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 4: big massage on the back of the show. 1506 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 3: That's my boy right there, that's my boy is. 1507 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 4: The ultimate hYP man. Obama was just like, let's call it, what. 1508 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 7: If Obama is the funds. I guess styles is Biden. 1509 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 7: So Biden styles for president? 1510 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:42,840 Speaker 5: Is that? 1511 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. He hasn't quite got the 1512 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 4: same energy you style. 1513 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 5: They both wear sunglasses. 1514 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 3: True. 1515 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 6: I'd love to see Biden driving a tour bus with 1516 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 6: Obama standing on the top. 1517 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 4: You in backflace doing a handstand. Yeah, the Wolf of Bile. 1518 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 3: Hey, there's still time. The election is to guys. If 1519 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 3: you're American you haven't voted yet, go vote on Tuesday, 1520 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 3: November third. And like I said off the top, we're 1521 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 3: even gonna hit you with a beach step in podcast 1522 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 3: to hopefully kill some time while you're waiting in line. 1523 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 3: Hopefully there's only that line is long. That means a 1524 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 3: lot of people are voting. But we'll have a new 1525 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 3: podcast up for you on Tuesday. Get your questions in 1526 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 3: No Dunks at the Athletic dot com or tweet them 1527 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 3: in at No Dunks and all your questions and your 1528 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 3: comments go check out the other great podcast on the 1529 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Athletic Network. That was a lot of fun. Thanks for 1530 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 3: joining us to shout out to the stream teamers. We 1531 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 3: will see you guys on Tuesday. Clipper bros. You heard 1532 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,679 Speaker 3: it here first. Have a great time turn up. Love 1533 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 3: you guys awesome. 1534 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us and remember Lee calls all the 1535 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 5: flowers planted around his house. Blaird de lez. 1536 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 3: Hey, Embrace the day. 1537 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 2: Be able you could. 1538 01:08:50,840 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 5: Stay every day, be happy every minute. It's been so 1539 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,839 Speaker 5: long that you're the one. 1540 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 4: I've waiting for. 1541 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 5: Its happened already. 1542 01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 3: It's going to be good reading