1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Lots of 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: news Friday edition of the program. We're going to dive 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: into it all. Let me also update you right here. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: This just came down. In addition to everything else going 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: on around the world, Pope Francis, eighty eight years old 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: has had a sudden worsening condition and has been placed 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: on a mechanical ventilator in the in Rome. And so 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: that story in and of itself is one worth following 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: as well. Again, if you haven't been paying attention, eighty 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: eight year old Pope double pneumonia, has been in the 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: hospital for some time, has had a bit of a setback, 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: according to this statement, and has been placed on a ventilator. 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: We will see how that goes. In addition to all 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: of the other geopolitical maneuvering and tension that is taking 15 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: place right now. Okay, for those of you who maybe 16 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: are just getting in your cars or you have not 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: been aware of what has been transpiring, we had fireworks 18 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: in the Oval office with Vladimir with Zolensky there alongside 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: of JD. Vance and President Trump. The expectation was today 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: that there would be a mineral rights agreement signed that 21 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: has not happened. Zolensky in the last half hour or 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: so left the White House. Trump put out a statement saying, 23 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: evidently Zelensky is not ready to move towards a peace accord, 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: and he let it be known two things. One, Ukraine 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: can't win the war. Two, the United States is not 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: going to continue to pay for this war that Ukraine 27 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: can't win going forward. Uh Zolensky in the Oval Office 28 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: alongside of JD. Vance and Donald Trump, it got very, 29 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: very testy. Let me play a couple of these cuts 30 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: the first two guys that we played in the first hour. 31 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: For people out there who may not have heard what 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: this sounded like. Let's play a couple of minutes from 33 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: inside of the Oval Office, just in the last couple 34 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: of hours. Here's what it sounded like. 35 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to 36 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if President 37 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come 38 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in 39 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: front of the American media. Right now, you guys are 40 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because 41 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president 42 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: to bring it into this. 43 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: Country, live into Ukraine, that you say, what problems we have? 44 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: I have been to well come once. 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: I have actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: and I know what happens is you bring people, you 47 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister President, do you 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 2: disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military? 49 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: And do you think that the respect allots to come 50 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: to the Oval Office in the United States of America 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: and attack the administration that is trying to trying to 52 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: prevent the destruction of your count. 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. 54 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: Sure fills to. 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: Wall during the war. 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 5: Everybody has problems, even you. 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: But you have nice otion and don't feel now, but 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: you will feel it in the future. 59 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 5: God blessed, God bless you. 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: Bless you. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So that was the first part, Trump cutting in 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: after JD. Vance had begun the discussion with with Zolenski. 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Let's hear more as it continued. Uh, frankly, unlike anything 64 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: we've ever seen before in a public fashion inside of 65 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: the Oval Office. 66 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what 67 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: we're going to feel. I'm not telling you because you're 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: in no position to dictate that. Remember this, you're in 69 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. We're gonna 70 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: feel very good. We're gonna feel very good and very strong. You're, 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: right now not in a very good position. You've allowed 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: you to be a beginning right from the beginning of 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: the war, not in a good position. You don't have 74 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: the cards right now with us. You start having right now, 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: your friends, you're gambling with the lives of millions of people. 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with World 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: War three. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: the country, this country, far more than a lot of 79 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: people said they should have you said at times, you 80 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: said you. 81 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: America and the president who's trying to save your country. 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So that is the fireworks that just took place. 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: And we have been talking. Buck by the way out 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: today he was on for the first hour. He's in 87 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the process of preparing for the arrival of baby number one, 88 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: lots of family in town. He is out for the 89 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: rest of the show. He'll be back with me on 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Monday's edition of the program. Now, what's really going on here? 91 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: You might have heard me talking with the Attorney General 92 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: of Kansas to me, this is basic negotiation. I don't 93 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: want to sound like Costanza on Seinfeld, but it's negotiation. Jerry, 94 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: if you remember that episode, most of the people that 95 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: are going to be reacting in a histrionic fashion in 96 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: media have never actually been engaged in any kind of 97 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: serious negotiation in their lives. What is happening here is 98 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Trump is having to speak hard truths to a Ukrainian 99 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: president that has convinced himself Winston Churchill, those hard truths 100 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: are point one, you can't win the war. If anybody 101 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: out there listening to me right now disagrees with that point, 102 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: call me in and tell me how I'm wrong. Eight 103 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: hundred and two two two eight a two. The most 104 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: important analysis here is Ukraine cannot win this war. If 105 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: you believe that to be true, and I don't even 106 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: think you could make an argument that Ukraine can win 107 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: the war unless you're out there right now listening and 108 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: you're saying you know what, I want this to turn 109 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: into a world war. I want there to be American troops. 110 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I want NATO to be involved. If that were to occur, 111 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: then yes, I think Ukraine could win the war. If 112 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: we gave them millions of troops, they would have more 113 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: than Russia would. But then Russia might decide to use 114 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. Right. No one wants to take this to 115 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: the next proverbial level. If Ukraine is fighting against Russia, 116 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine cannot win. That is point one. If Ukraine cannot 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: win the war, why are we continuing to give them 118 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. You don't have to agree with me, 119 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: By the way, I will take phone calls if anybody 120 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: out there can make the case. These are to me, 121 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: the two most important points that need to be analyzed here. 122 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Can Ukraine win three years in The answer is no. 123 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that the Ukrainian men haven't fought bravely. 124 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that Ukraine doesn't have the right to 125 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: defend itself. Those are different questions. The question at the 126 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: most basic level is can they win? The answer to 127 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: me is no, and I don't think that anybody out 128 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: there could argue Ukraine can win if you already know 129 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: how the war ends. Ukraine's going to lose. Why should 130 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: we be giving billions of dollars in taxpayer money to 131 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: allow Ukraine to continue to lose more slowly? What is 132 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: the benefit to the American taxpayer? Why should my dollars 133 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: go to Ukraine? Why should your dollars go to Ukraine? 134 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: This war should end right now. There should be a 135 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: ceasefire again. The next step becomes where is the line drawn? 136 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Where is the squiggly line on the map drawn? And 137 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: those negotiations might take months, they might take years. But 138 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: once you're in the process of negotiating where the line is, 139 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: and I would submit to you it's probably somewhat akin 140 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: that line to where the lines between the troops are 141 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: right now? Why would you continue the war in any way? 142 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Usually when one side knows it can't win, the war ends. 143 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm not defending Russia invading Ukraine. I'm not saying that 144 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: I like Vladimir Putin at all. I'm merely saying he's 145 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: going to win. Isn't it in the best interests of 146 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: America for the war to end and for us to 147 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: stop spending tons of our money, billions and billions of 148 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: our dollars on a war that Ukraine can't win. This 149 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: ceasefire should be signed today. What Trump is doing in 150 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: saying this publicly is he's actually also giving Russia room 151 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: to win the war on its side too, Because, as 152 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: I laid out earlier, you can't buy into this disneyfied 153 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: era of our media where we say, oh, Ukraine is 154 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: all that's good and pure and Russia is all that's 155 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: evil and rotten, Because then how do you bring this 156 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: to a conclusion. And I used as an example of 157 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: divorce negotiation, it's very rare that each in a divorce, 158 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: some of you have been through them. It's very rare 159 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: in a divorce that each side is equally at fault. Newsflash. 160 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: Usually the husband or the wife is worse and they're 161 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: the cause more so than the other person of the 162 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: relationship ending. But if you spend a lot of time 163 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: on fault, it makes it very difficult to get the 164 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: divorce realized. That's why no fault divorce came to be, 165 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: because you don't spend all the time sitting around trying 166 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: to figure out all of the things that happened in 167 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: the past that were awful and trying to assign a 168 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: portionable blame. As a result, you simply go back and say, hey, 169 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: let's stop the fighting, Let's get a solution. That's where 170 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: we are. This war has been fought. There is no 171 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: doubt who is going to win. It is Russia. The 172 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: question is where is the line going to be drawn? 173 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: And arguably, and I think it's right telling the public, 174 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: telling the world. Telling Zelenski to his face that exact 175 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: truth instead of leaking it through the New York Times 176 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: or the Washington Post so he could read it in 177 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: the newspaper later, I think is going to hasten the 178 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: ceasefire taking place. Now. Some of you may not like 179 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: the way that it played out. Some of you may say, well, 180 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: this should all occur behind closed doors, none of this 181 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: should be in public. You can make that argument, but 182 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: that's not really the way that Trump has ever behaved 183 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: as a president. The Trump that you get in public 184 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: is not very different than the Trump that you get 185 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: in private. He's basically the same guy all the time. 186 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: I think that's one reason it's very hard to attack him, 187 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: because the American public has come to understand, for better 188 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: or worse, what a day to day Trump existence is. 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They hang join Clay and Buck as 225 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,359 Speaker 1: they lap it up in the Klay and Buck podcast 226 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 227 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show, Okay. More 228 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: details coming out about the explosion in the Oval office. 229 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Jackie Heinrich with Fox News reports as follows. Let me 230 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: make sure that I get this pulled up and get 231 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: all of this accurate. White House officials tell Fox again, 232 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: this is Jackie Heinrich. Trump kicked out Zolensky, that Zolensky 233 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: did not leave on his own. The rare Minerals deal 234 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: was not signed. The White House says Ukrainians were begging 235 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: to reset, but Rubio and Waltz informed them Zolensky need 236 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: to leave the White House's grounds and only return when 237 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: he's ready for peace. Let me pause here for a second. 238 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: This is like what your mom does when you've done 239 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: something bad and you try to make up for it, 240 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: and then they say no, no, no, no, you can only 241 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: come back and talk about this when until you eat 242 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,479 Speaker 1: your broccoli, We're not going to have any other conversations. 243 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: This is mom or dad treating Zolensky like a child. Continuing, 244 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: the President and US officials felt disrespected by Zolensky's rhetoric 245 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: and demeanor. They said he was shrugging and rolling his 246 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: eyes during the conversation. Uh, she says, when I went 247 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: to the upper Press room to ask what was going on, 248 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: this is actually pretty funny. The lunch that Trump and 249 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: Zolensky were supposed to dine on and talk over was 250 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: sitting in the hallway. I'm told White House Press Office 251 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: staffers will be eating it instead. So the real beneficiaries 252 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: here is the White House Press staff probably having a 253 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: way better lunch than they were anticipating. But that is 254 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: all details from Jackie Heinrich. In the last half hour. 255 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: A lot of you want to weigh in variety of 256 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: different calls. Let me get to at least one of 257 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: those right now, Art in Georgia. 258 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 6: What you got, hey, ro Well, you know it's kind 259 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 6: of odd because I called in and I said, you know, 260 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 6: this would be a good time for Trump to just 261 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 6: tell le Lenski, you know, okay, if that's how you 262 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 6: want to play it, just going back home to Ukraine 263 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 6: and do what you're going to do. But we're done, 264 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 6: We're not doing this no more. And sure enough it 265 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 6: comes out that that's exactly what happens. So you know, 266 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: I applaud Trump. I think he's playing from a position 267 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 6: of strength, and I hope he keeps it up because 268 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 6: this is the only way sometimes to get through to 269 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 6: people is is just you know, somebody said, well one 270 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: time before me that you know, humans always have to 271 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 6: do things the hard way just to figure out how 272 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 6: easy it would have been instead had just been smart 273 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 6: about things. 274 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think gonna yeah, thank you for the call. 275 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: We're coming up on a break here. I think the 276 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway is Zolensky doesn't have a blank check from 277 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: America anymore. Joe Biden was going to keep stroking checks 278 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: for tens of billions of dollars. He can't fight the 279 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: war without American support, and Trump and his team have 280 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: decided that Zolensky can't win. Okay, Once you decide that 281 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: somebody can't win, why would we keep giving them money 282 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: to fight a war they can't win. It's all just 283 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: a question of how this ends now. And to me, 284 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: Trump has just accelerated the end game by letting the 285 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: nation know and the world know that we aren't Ukraine's 286 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: bank and we're not going to continue to fund a 287 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: war they can't win. It seems to me, maybe not kind, 288 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: but certainly hyper rational. Look Life Pack for all of 289 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: you out there. 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No cost, 299 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: easy to get started. Clayanbuck fo r Hillsdale dot com. 300 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: That's clayanbuck for Hillsdale dot com. Zolensky has posted He 301 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: says as far, thank you America, thank you for your support, 302 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: thank you for this visit. Sorry, thank you Potus Congress 303 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace 304 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: and we are working exactly for that. This is I'm 305 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: laughing a little bit because JD. Vance said, can you 306 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: just say thank you once? And Zolensky's response again, thank you, 307 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you for thank yous. Right 308 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: off the top here reports that Zolensky wanted to continue 309 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: to negotiate. I think this is an interesting interesting question. 310 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Will he leave the United States now? It's not that 311 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: big of a deal. Given international travel, if he flies 312 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: back to Ukraine, he could turn around and fly back. 313 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: But there are reports out there that he wanted to 314 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: continue the meetings in the White House and Trump just said, no, 315 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like you're ready to get a peace 316 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: deal done, and he effectively kicked him out of the 317 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: White House. So will there be a departure from Washington, 318 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: d C. Or our country by Zelenski or is it 319 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: possible they come back in a couple of days and 320 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: have further conversations. So that is the absolute latest on 321 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: what took place in the Oval Office, and we are 322 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: breaking it all down. Producer Buck will be back on Monday. 323 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: He is in the process of going through all of 324 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: the all of the preparations as many of you have 325 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: been through them for having a baby. They are having 326 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: a baby shower, all the family is in the house. 327 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: He was on with us for the first hour and 328 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: he was like he were texting earlier. I said, Hey, 329 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: just go ahead and take care of all the craziness 330 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: that you're involved in right now. Now. He'll be back 331 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: with us on Monday. Ali, Producer Ali, has anyone reached 332 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: out to disagree with my take? Here, is there anyone 333 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: who is upset with Trump and what he did based 334 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: on the emails and calls that you have seen so far, 335 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Because I said, look, I understand if you agree with me, 336 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: that's great. I'm open to taking calls from people who 337 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: agree with me. But what I said is, is there 338 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: something that I'm missing Anybody out there in the millions 339 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: of people right now listening all over the country that 340 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: wants to call in and say, Clay, I think you 341 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: miss this. You're totally wrong about this. Ali, are we 342 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: getting any of that. 343 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 7: We're getting some disagreement, but I wouldn't really say it's 344 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 7: disagreement that has merit. 345 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: Like here, well, here is what you sent me VIP 346 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: email from Richard. I disagree with your comments about the 347 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: approach to peace. Biden supported Ukraine to tie, not to win. 348 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Negotiations would move more quickly if we continue to provide 349 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: weapons and let Ukraine retaliate by firing into Russia. Well, see, 350 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: here's my thing with Richard's perspective there. I think if 351 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: we allowed Ukraine to fire weapons into Russia, American weapons 352 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: into Russia, that we would actually be accelerating the war. 353 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: So my concern then is that Russia is going to 354 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: move to a more aggressive posture in terms of the 355 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: weaponry that it rains down on Ukraine. So I don't 356 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: think that's a good solution. And if Ukraine has been 357 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: supported to the point where there is a tie, once 358 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: you have and first of all, it's not a tie 359 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: because they've given up territory, but once you basically have 360 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: reached a stasis, right, nobody's really moving very much one 361 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: direction or another. Isn't the smartest thing to do to 362 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: preserve as many lives as you can by getting a ceasefire. 363 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: There are going to be a lot of people attacking Trump, 364 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: but I think what you need to keep in mind 365 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: is Trump's actions actually make it likely that less people die. 366 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: As a general rule, shouldn't the American president support things 367 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: that make it less likely that people die in war? 368 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: This is why the attacks on Trump, to me, are 369 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: going to be so interesting. Again, you can't always do it. 370 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to fight wars. Sometimes you have to 371 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: stand up to evil. We did it in World War Two. 372 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: We certainly have done it throughout most of American history. 373 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't hear anybody. I've got three boys. I don't 374 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: want them going to fight a war in Ukraine. They're 375 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: not old enough yet, but they could be one day. 376 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: A lot of you out there listening to me right 377 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: now have sons and daughters that are serving in the military. 378 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: Do you want them on the front lines fighting with 379 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: Russia to preserve Ukrainian territory? Again, this comes down to 380 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: a swiggly line in a country that most Americans couldn't 381 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: find on a map. Trump has made what I think 382 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: is the correct decision that Ukraine cannot win. He now 383 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: is saying that publicly. Why would we not go ahead 384 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: and try to find a way to stop spending our 385 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars and to stop having men on both sides 386 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: for Ukraine and Russia and other countries to be fair, 387 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of mercenaries fighting for Russia, 388 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: not be sacrificed on the battlefield with no particular point 389 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: to be gained from it. Okay, I wanted to play 390 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: this for you. I'll continue to take calls to close 391 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: up the show today Friday edition of the program take 392 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: you into the weekend. But I did get a little 393 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: bit of spice here. There has been rumors that Casey DeSantis, 394 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: the wife of DeSantis, is going to potentially run for 395 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: governor of Florida and try and take over when Ron DeSantis, 396 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: her husband's term ends next year. That has been the 397 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: under sort of belly story associated with Byron Donald's who 398 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: we had on Wednesday deciding to run for governor. Casey, who, 399 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: by the way, I really like. I think is very smart. 400 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I think that she has been fabulous as the I 401 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: guess it's the first Lady of Florida, right. I think 402 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: she has been a great asset to Ron DeSantis and 403 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: people of Florida. She was asked about whether or not 404 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: she would potentially run for governor of Florida, and she 405 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: didn't say no. Listen, well, I. 406 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 5: Would say one thing, to quote the late great Yogi 407 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 5: Bearra when you come to a fork in the road ticket. 408 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: You guys can read it that with you one look. 409 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: I mean I think that I've been I've got people 410 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: coming up me for years begging to get her in 411 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 4: the fray because I think you see with her presentation, 412 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: I mean, she's passionate, she's articulate, she's smart, she's got 413 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: rock solid values. I remember Rush Limbaugh, late great great 414 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: friend of mine, and you know he was always upset 415 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: because he thought that the spouses pulled the officeholder to 416 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: the left, and he said with Casey, I don't have 417 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: to worry about that. She's she's more conservative than you. 418 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: So does that sound like an answer where you say, no, 419 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: she's not gonna run. Interesting? Right. I didn't ask Byron 420 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: Donalds directly about it, but I did ask Byron Donalds 421 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: on Wednesday about DeSantis and whether he thought he could 422 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: get DeSantis' support. Listen to that answer. This was Wednesday 423 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: on the program Byron Donald's talking to Bucking Me. Do 424 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: you think that Governor Ron DeSantis will endorse How do 425 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: you think that he will play it out? He's term 426 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: limited out for people out there who may not know, 427 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: so he cannot run again. Twenty twenty six, there's going 428 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: to be a new governor regardless. Are you going to 429 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: ask for seek his endorsement? What do you think he'll 430 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: do with the race? 431 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: I mean, I would love to earn it, and I 432 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 5: think the reason and I think honestly, you know, back 433 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen, you know when Governor DeSantis, then candidate DeSantis, 434 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 5: had won the primary and the radical left try to 435 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 5: go at him because you know of a phrase he 436 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 5: used about referring to his opponent. You know, I went 437 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: and did media and stood in the gap for him 438 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: because I believed he was going to be a great governor. 439 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 5: And I was proven right. He has been a great governor. 440 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 6: You know. 441 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: I was there to help him win in twenty eighteen 442 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: campaign for him, have always supported him, and I think 443 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I just want to 444 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: be able to pick his brain, you know, learn from him. 445 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: You know that being the chief executive is not easy, 446 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 5: and so there's a lot of I know, there's a 447 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: lot of advice he has. I want to be able 448 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 5: to lean on that, and so I would love to 449 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: be able to earn his support, and I think there 450 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 5: will be a time for that. Well we'll see how 451 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 5: that goes. 452 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So Floridians, can you imagine Casey DeSantis versus Byron Donalds. 453 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: That would be a heck of a Republican primary battle. 454 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to play that audio for you 455 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: because she got directly asked about it, and then you 456 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: heard Ron, as he should do as a husband, talking 457 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: about how awesome his wife was. Ron DeSantis won the 458 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: state of Florida by was at nineteen points. I think 459 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: right in twenty twenty two, Byron Donalds now has the 460 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: endorsement of Donald Trump. What if we get Casey DeSantis 461 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: versus Byron Donald's Republican primary. I don't. I can't imagine 462 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: that there's any primary in America that would be more 463 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: of a battle and a lot of y'all down in 464 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Florida listening to me right now. I mean, you love 465 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis, you love Donald Trump, you really like Byron 466 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: Donalds love him as well. Buckle up. I just I 467 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: think again, based on that answer, we'll see. I think 468 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: Casey DeSantis may be seriously thinking about running for the 469 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: governorship to take over from her husband, which we've never 470 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember it. I know it used 471 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: to happen back in the day. Sometimes guys were term 472 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: limited out and the wife would come in, or you 473 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: would have an illness or something happened to the spouse 474 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: and the other one comes in. I mean, this is 475 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: how Mark Kelly, the senator from Arizona, got into politics, 476 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, was because his wife, Gabrielle Gifford's 477 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: was shot attacked at a public event in Arizona. So again, 478 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: I just want to put a pen in this story. 479 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that you're hearing a lot about it 480 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: anywhere yet, but when I saw that answer, it's pretty 481 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: easy to say. If you're not gonna do something and 482 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: you've decided not to do it, Casey DeSantis didn't do it. There, 483 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: I think there may be something to this. Pay attention, 484 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: look sports fans out there. 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Find it on the iHeartRadio app or 510 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay, Travis, 511 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with 512 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: us as we are rolling through the final episode of 513 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: the week, almost fifteen hours in the books here a 514 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: few minutes remaining on the program and a couple of 515 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: different emails I'll react to do we still have Paul 516 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: and Michael guys to be able to take these calls. 517 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: Let me know text me VIP email from Pat. I 518 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: strongly agree Trump and Vance did what they needed to do. Today, 519 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Zelenski needs a reality check and the war has to 520 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: come to an end. Question, what do you think Putin's 521 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: reaction to this was today? I do think Trump should 522 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: have not let it go on as long as he did. 523 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: What do you think I think Putin is happy because 524 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: I think what it creates is the idea that he's 525 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: not pure evil. In other words, if you heard my 526 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: negotiating analogy and mediation or divorce as an example, you 527 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: oftentimes have to get away from the concept of one 528 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: side is good the other side is evil to resolve 529 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: a settlement. I wish that Putin had never invaded Ukraine. 530 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that Putin invading Ukraine was a flouting of 531 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: international law. Their question is what are you going to 532 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: do as a result. I also wish, by the way, 533 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: that Hamas had not invaded Israel on October seventh, Right, 534 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: there are lots of awful things that are happening every day. 535 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: Was it seventy Christians got beheaded in the Congo according 536 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: to reports out there. There's awful things happening everywhere around 537 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: the world on a regular basis. The question is to 538 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: what extent should American an American taxpayer money be involved 539 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: in trying to right wrongs around the world. And once 540 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: we know how a conclusion is going to occur that 541 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: is Ukraine can't win. Does America have an obligation to 542 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: try and bring peace to the world. To me, the 543 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: big story here what's going to get lost is Trump 544 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: is trying to end the war. Paul in California, what 545 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: you got for us? 546 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 7: Hey? So the first that was a single face to 547 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 7: face meeting could ruin year as a patient diplomacy. But 548 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 7: I think of that quote from Bush during the invasion 549 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 7: of Kuits thugery written large. And that's how I look 550 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 7: at this. The invasion of Ukraine by Russia kind of 551 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 7: like Iraq in Kuwait. I think it seems like one 552 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 7: country invading another one. 553 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: So you think, so, let me ask you a question. 554 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: Then sorry to cut you off. In the case of 555 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: Iraq invading Kuwait, we put American soldiers on the ground 556 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: and kicked the Iraq out of Kuwait. Do you think 557 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: American soldiers should be committed to the war in Ukraine? 558 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 7: Well, I think that once those US interests in Ukraine, 559 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 7: like a minerals deal, then that kind of ends. That's 560 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 7: game sitting match for the Russians. 561 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So again my question is, how would you end 562 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: this situation right now? 563 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 7: I think the United States has the ability to go 564 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 7: through Russia and say you need there needs to be 565 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 7: a ceasefire now and withdraw to your pre you know, 566 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 7: your pre assigned lines are pre war lines, and I 567 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 7: think that the United States has the ability to make 568 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 7: that happen. 569 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: So why I thank you for the call. That is 570 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: not going to happen. So You're solution to the war 571 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: is we should just go to Russia and say, hey, 572 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: in the invasion and go back to your pre existing lines. 573 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 7: Come on, I mean, I think that's what I think, 574 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 7: that's what we have helped other countries do to fight 575 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 7: to fight off. 576 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: So you think the only thing keeping Vladimir Putin from 577 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: ending the war is Trump saying, hey, you need to 578 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: go back to your pre existing country lines. 579 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 7: I think the United States have a lot more influence 580 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 7: against Russia than I. 581 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: Mean, So why didn't Joe Biden just say that? 582 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 7: Well, I don't think Joe Biden was capable of thinking 583 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 7: you could do that. 584 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for the call. With all due respect, 585 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: that is a ridiculous position to call into a national 586 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: radio show in advance. Hey, all we have to do 587 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: is just hey, just Trump should just call Putin and 588 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: tell him, Hey, you need to go back to where 589 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: you were before you invaded three years ago. That's you, 590 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: that's your take. You wanted millions of people to hear you. Hey, 591 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: just all we got to do is just call the 592 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: Russians and tell them to just just go back to 593 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: where they were. That'll solve it all. Come on, you 594 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: know it is sometimes people have misguided ideas of how 595 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: these things are going to play out. Again. The two 596 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: takeaways that I think are important that Trump illustrated today 597 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office is Ukraine can't win the war. 598 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: The whole world now knows if they didn't before, Ukraine 599 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: can't win. Once you know Ukraine can't win, what's the 600 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: fight going on for? It's over where the border lines 601 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: are going to be drawn going forward, and all of 602 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,479 Speaker 1: the people who lose their lives after we know how 603 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: the war is going to end are being sacrificed for nothing. 604 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: Trump is trying to bring peace to Europe, which is 605 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: a good thing, even if some people not gonna love 606 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: his methods. We'll be back on Monday